Span of Mahayuga according to Suryasiddhanta & Puranas

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Sunil Ji (and others),

 

Here is proof from Vishnu Purana :

 

" Maasair-dvaadashbhir-varsham-ahoraatram tu divi /

Tribhirvarsha-shataivarsham shashtyaa chaiva-asuradvishaam " (verse-10,

ch-3, amsha-6, Vishnu Purana). Here, the meanings of terms are :

 

" Maasair-dvaadashbhir-varsham " = the year of twelve months

" ahoraatram tu divi " = is ahoraatra (day + night) in the Devaloka

(divi)

" Tribhirvarsha-shataivarsham shashtya " = 360 years

" asuradvishaam " = devas (who hated asuras)

 

Hence, it means " the year of twelve months is ahoraatra in the Devaloka

; 360 years is (year) of the Devas.

 

Vishnu Purana'a first Amsha, chapter-3, verses 19-21 make it even more

clear by saying that " one manvantara has 852000 " divya " years but

306720000 " maanushai-vatsara " . It gives 360 human years in one divine

year. This entire chapter describes the whole span of Brahmaa ji's life

beginning from the smallest measure of time, and this entire description

is perfectly in tune with Suryasiddhantic figures.

 

As I told earlier, with verses sent to you, Suryasiddhanta clearly gives

the number of days in a Mahayuga (1577917828), which can be possible

only in 4320000 years and never in 12000 years. Why you call it my

" manipulated calculations " ?

 

I sent you figures about Jupiter and Moon too, but i do not know whether

it reached you.

 

Venkata Krishnan ji gave you proof from Matsya Purana :

<<<<

The original Sanskrit slokas Chapter 142, Slokas 11 to 15 are as

follows:

 

Sloka No.11

trimsadyaani tu varshaaNi divyo maasastu sa smrtah,

maanushaaNaam satam yacca divyaa maasaastrayastu vai,

patayeva saha sakhyaato divya esha vidhih smrtah.

 

Sloka No.12

treeni varshasataanyevam shashti varshaiastathaiva ca,

divyah samvatsaro hyesha maanusheNa prakortitah.

 

Sloka No.13

treeni varshasahasraaNi maanusheNa pramaaNatah,

trimsadanyaani varshaaNi smrtah saptarshivatsarah.

 

Sloka No.14

nava yaani sahasraaNi varshaaNaam maanushaaNi ca,

varshaaNi navatiscaiva dhdavasamvatsarah smrtha.

 

Sloka No.15

shatttamsattu sahasraaNi varshaaNaam maanushaaNi ca,

shashtiscaiva sahasraaNi samkhyaataani tu samahyayaa,

divyam varshasahasram tu praahuh samahyaavido janaa

>>>>

 

Earlier, I sent you proofs from Suryasidhhanta, Aryabhatiya,

Brahma-sphuta-siddhanta, Narada Purana, Mahabharata, etc, citing verses.

But you still call me a " manipulator " and poke fun at my personal things

(being a monk).

 

You discuss with civility with others even when they differ, but when it

comes to me you forget all norms of civility and truthfulness, and the

cause is clear from your mails : you cannot tolerate a monk. Forget

whether I am a monk or a rascal. Why my monkhood torments you ? This

forum is about astrology, and you have no interest in astrology.

 

As for wine, you are forgetting your own mails. In first mail, I started

a topic on Tantric Astrology for discussing the medini jyotisha of

Yaamala Tantras, but you diverted the issue to discussions on wine which

had nothing to do with astrology. You destroyed a good topic and I could

not discuss anything about medini jyotisha. But after learning about my

aversion to wine, you turned hostile to me personally. Check your own

mails AFTER that episode, and compare your attitude towards me with that

BEFORE that episode (about wine in Tantra).

 

You completely forget your ADVICE to me that 'WHO' (World Health

Organizarion) recommends daily dose of wine after I left AIA. Check your

archives in " sent " folder of your mailbox. Was this " sincere

advice to a monk " related to astrology or tantra ?

 

Your contention was about the length of divine year. Why you are

emphasizing " revolutions of the Moon and the Jupiter " in this regard ?

Is it not diversionary tactics ? How Jupiter's or Moon's revolutions

can change the length of solar year ? And you say my insistence that

Jupiter and Moon cannot change solar year is " proof " of my falsehood !

What an argument !

 

When I proved the length of divya year, you went into hibernation and

then came out with diversion of topic to Moon and Jupiter. Similarly,

when Ventakrishnanji refuted you by supplying verses from Matsya Purana,

you did not accept your error and changed the topic to Lord Rama's time

! You think yourself to be a champion in diversionary tactics. I sent

you links which can give you revolutions of Moon or Jupiter, but I will

discuss those topics only after you accept your error in confining the

length of divya year to a human year, instead of 360 human years. You

are imposing your misconceptions taken from modern science upon ancient

scriptures. You are now carefully evading the use of word " divya " , but

it is clear from your present mail that you still believe that one divya

year is equal to one human year. If you falsify the statements of

scriptures, why you discuss them at all?

 

When I (and Ventakrishnanji) supplied you verses from ancient texts, you

take resort to diversionary tactics and refuse to accept truth. Are you

incapable of real sincerity and honesty which you claim ( " Sincerely " ) ?

Am I in the wrong in saying that one divya year was equal to 360 human

years? Or was Vyaasa ji and Lord Surya false in stating the length of

one divya year ? Before discussing other planets, let us first decide

whether Vinay Jha is falsifying the ancient records or Mr Sunil is

misquoting scriptures deliberately.

 

You are under an oath to refuse truth. You accused me of imposing my

false views on Suryasiddhanta. You still say I was misinterpreting and

falsifying scriptures. I supplied verses from Suryasiddhanta and other

siddhantas as well as Mahabharata, but I am surprized at your complete

forgetfulfulness of all those proofs I sent you. After that, you kept

quiet for some time, and started posting false mails again. Your words

" manipulated calculations " and " tactfully evaded " are not only

insulting, but also false, and show your hatred for proofs I sent you in

many past mails. Now, I am collecting those previous mails from my

archive and putting all those proofs in a single file, which I will post

again and again whenever you will feign to forget the proofs sent by me

and charge me falsely, because I am now convinced that you will never

accept Truth.

 

We can discuss Moon, Jupiter, Lord rama, etc ONLY AFTER length

of divya year is fixed. Do not feign to forget the proofs I sent you.

Suryasiddhanta clearly gives the number of days in a Mahayuga

(1577917828), which can be possible only in 4320000 years and never in

12000 years. Why you call it my " manipulated calculations " ? Do not

degrade yourself to such levels.

 

Sincerely (really, unlike you !),

 

-Vinay Jha

============== ====

, sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

>

>

> Dear Vinayji,

>

> Namaste,

>

> You said as follows:

>

> Quote

>

> Your contention was about the length of divine year. Why you are

emphasizing " revolutions of the Moon and the Jupiter " in this regard ?

Is it not diversionary tactics ? How Jupiter's or Moon's revolutions

can change the length of solar year ? And you say my insistence that

Jupiter and Moon cannot change solar year is " proof " of my falsehood !

What an argument !

>

> Unquote

>

> This is because at the beginning of the discussions you quoted

Suryasiddhanta and gave the number of revolutions of the Sun, the Moon

and the Jupiter in a Mahayuga and you even gave the calculations for the

revolutions of the Sun. I only want you to complete that by giving the

relevant calculations for the number of revolutions of the Moon and the

Jupiter in a Mahayuga. In my opinion, if your calculations for the

number of the revolutions of the Moon and that of the Jupiter do not

tally with the calculations for the number of revolutions of the Sun

then arriving at any conclusion solely on the basis of the calculation

for the revolutions of the Sun may appear to be a manipulated

conclusion. What prevents you from giving the relevant calculations for

the Moon and the Jupiter?

>

> 2)

> It appears that you are perturbed at my asking you the date of Lord

Rama. We all the Hindus believe that Lord Rama was born in the Treta

Yuga in the Ikshaku lineage coming down from Vaivasvata Manu. Since the

Ikshaku lineage is given in the Purana and the last king of that family

died in the Mahabharata war I think this also helps us in having an idea

of the date of Lord Rama. Don't you think Lord Rama's date will allow us

to confirm the yuga calculations?

>

> 3)

> Why do you have to mention about wine in your every mail. That topic

was discussed quite some time ago in AIA in connection with your

reference to Tantra. It seems you have misunderstood my reply mentioning

about a maximum of the two tolas of wine. I mentioned that because you

thought that Tantra practice involves drinking and some undesirable

practices. I was telling you that the Tantras do allow some

practitioners of Tantra to take a maximum of two tolas of wine though

there are other recommendations too such as taking wine substitutes or

taking alipana, which is just taking a drop of wine on the tip of the

tongue. I also said that the two tolas is very much within the WHO

recommended maximum safe limit of drinking. As you say that a monk has

no interest in wine so please desist from mentioning wine any further. I

never advised you to drink and that to a self-declared monk like you.

You declared yourself to be a monk and as I have not seen you

> you may, only if you please, let us know if you are Hindu monk or

Biddhist monk or Jain monk or any other.

>

> Regards,

>

> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

>

> --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Vinay Jha vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

>

> Vinay Jha vinayjhaa16

> Re: Re: Re: Span of Mahayuga according to

Suryasiddhanta

> " Sunil Bhattacharjya " sunil_bhattacharjya

> Thursday, May 21, 2009, 7:47 AM

Sunil Ji and others,

>

> As I told earlier, with verses sent to you, Suryasiddhanta clearly

gives the number of days in a Mahayuga (1577917828), which can be

possible only in 4320000 years and never in 12000 years. Why you call it

my " manipulated calculations " ?

>

> You discuss with civility with others even when they differ, but when

it comes to me you forget all norms of civility and truthfulness, and

the cause is clear from your mails : you cannot tolerate a monk. Forget

whether I am a monk or a rascal. Why my monkhood torments you ? This

forum is about astrology, and you have no interest in astrology.

>

> As for wine, you are forgetting your own mails. In first mail, I

started a topic on Tantric Astrology for discussing the medini jyotisha

of Yaamala Tantras, but you diverted the issue to discussions on wine

which had nothing to do with astrology. You destroyed a good topic and I

could not discuss anything about medini jyotisha. But after learning

about my aversion to wine, you turned hostile to me personally. Check

your own mails AFTER that episode, and compare your attitude towards me

with that BEFORE that episode (about wine in Tantra).

>

> You completely forget your ADVICE to me that 'WHO' (World Health

Organizarion) recommends daily dose of wine after I left AIA. Check your

archives in " sent " folder of your mailbox. Was this " sincere

advice to a monk " related to astrology or tantra ?

>

> Your contention was about the length of divine year. Why you are

emphasizing " revolutions of the Moon and the Jupiter " in this regard ?

Is it not diversionary tactics ? How Jupiter's or Moon's revolutions

can change the length of solar year ? And you say my insistence that

Jupiter and Moon cannot change solar year is " proof " of my falsehood !

What an argument !

>

> When I proved the length of divya year, you went into hibernation and

then came out with diversion of topic to Moon and Jupiter. Similarly,

when Ventakrishnanji refuted you by supplying verses from Matsya Purana,

you did not accept your error and changed the topic to Lord Rama's time

! You think yourself to be a champion in diversionary tactics. I sent

you links which can give you revolutions of Moon or Jupiter, but I will

discuss those topics only after you accept your error in confining the

length of divya year to a human year, instead of 360 human years. You

are imposing your misconceptions taken from modern science upon ancient

scriptures. You are now carefully evading the use of word " divya " , but

it is clear from your present mail that you still believe that one divya

year is equal to one human year. If you falsify the statements of

scriptures, why you discuss them at all?

>

> When I (and Ventakrishnanji) supplied you verses from ancient texts,

you take resort to diversionary tactics and refuse to accept truth. Are

you incapable of real sincerity and honesty which you claim

( " Sincerely " ) ? Am I in the wrong in saying that one divya year was

equal to 360 human years? Or was Vyaasa ji and Lord Surya false in

stating the length of one divya year ? Before discussing other planets,

let us first decide whether Vinay Jha is falsifying the ancient records

or Mr Sunil is misquoting scriptures deliberately.

>

> You are under an oath to refuse truth. You accused me of imposing my

false views on Suryasiddhanta. You still say I was misinterpreting and

falsifying scriptures. I supplied verses from Suryasiddhanta and other

siddhantas as well as Mahabharata, but I am surprized at your complete

forgetfulfulness of all those proofs I sent you. After that, you kept

quiet for some time, and started posting false mails again. Your words

" manipulated calculations " and " tactfully evaded " are not only

insulting, but also false, and show your hatred for proofs I sent you in

many past mails. Now, I am collecting those previous mails from my

archive and putting all those proofs in a single file, which I will post

again and again whenever you will feign to forget the proofs sent by me

and charge me falsely, because I am now convinced that you will never

accept Truth.

>

> We can discuss Moon, Jupiter, Lord rama, etc ONLY AFTER length

of divya year is fixed. Do not feign to forget the proofs I sent you.

Suryasiddhanta clearly gives the number of days in a Mahayuga

(1577917828), which can be possible only in 4320000 years and never in

12000 years. Why you call it my " manipulated calculations " ? Do not

degrade yourself to such levels.

>

> Sincerely (really, unlike you !),

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ============== ====

>

>

>

> Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya

> vinayjhaa16

> Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:06:13 PM

> Fw: Re: Re: Span of Mahayuga according to

Suryasiddhanta

>

--- On Wed, 5/20/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya

wrote:

>

>

> Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya

> Re: Re: Span of Mahayuga according to

Suryasiddhanta

>

> Cc:

> Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 10:50 PM

>

Mr. Vinay Jha,

>

> In an earlier mail you have triumphantly quoted the number of

revolutions of the Sun, the Moon and the Juipter from the Suryasiddhanta

and then you gave your manipulated calculations for arriving at the

figure of 365+ using the number of revolutiuons of the Sun. At that time

you tactfully evaded the calculations using the revolutions of the Moon

and the Jupiter. I reminded you about it and yet you are ignoring it

time and again. This itself proves that you are wrong. Please give the

calculations for the revolutions of the Moon and the Jupiter without any

delay and prove your point, Mr. Vinay Jha.

>

> Moreover you want others to believe every word you say. You claim to

be a monk and do you think all the monks in the world are above board? I

feel your attitude should befit a monk and that is more important than

your self-declaration that you are a monk. What has monkhood to do with

the discussions on Hindu astronomy and astrology. Moreover many of us

including me do not know you. I am sure you do not want the learned

members of the group to appear naive to accept every word you say,

unless you substantiate what you say, particularly when the

substantiation is asked for.

>

> You said I advised you anbout the benefits of the two tolas of wine.

Can you please quote the mails as to when and where and in what context

I wrote about the Tantric practice of taking two tolas of wine? You

condemned the Tantra as anti-Vedic and told that Tantra advocates

drinking and other undesirable practices. I only told you that Kularnava

tantra says that it is based on Veda and I also told you as to why in

some tantric practices there is the allowance of two tolas of wine and

that was by no means a suggestion to you to take wine. Please do not

twist facts in a forum of intelligent people. If you want to practice

Tantra then please go to a tantric guru and do as he tells you. But for

God's sake do not mislead the group members by your false statements. I

know you are peeved at my objections to some of your statements and

instead of giving satisfactory answers you are angry. A true monk

always tells the fact and is cool and never angry

> and vindictive like you are. Please try to be a good monk and do not

utter or write about wine, whether it is two tolas or two gallons. It is

unbecoming of a monk.

>

> Look at Ventakrishnanji. I appreciate his way of acting. He gave me

the verses from the Matsya Purana (though without his interpretation of

the text) and he also gave his date of Lord Rama as 90,000 years ago

(though without showing how he arrivede at that figure). Now he no

longer says that the number 4,320,000 is related to the time (in years)

of the Sun's revolution around the Galaxy. We do not agree with each

other and that is all.

>

>

> I never said that Hindu cosmology is wrong. One Mahayuga is 12,000

years and 1,000 such Mahayuga is one day of Brahma. Thus one day of

Brahma is equal to 12 million years. Similarly one night of Brahma is

12 million years. So one day and night together of Brahma is 24 million

years. Brahma's one year is 24 million X 360 = 8.64 billion years.

Show me where it is said that Brahma's life is only one day and one

night. At the end of his l;ife one Brahma goes away another Brahma

comes. Hindu cosmology somewhat tallies with the findings of the modern

scientists.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> -SKB

>

> --- On Wed, 5/20/09, vinayjhaa16 vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

>

> vinayjhaa16 vinayjhaa16

> Re: Span of Mahayuga according to

Suryasiddhanta

>

> Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:03 AM

>

>

To Mr B.C. Venkatakrishnan, Daniel F. Salas, & SKB :

>

> Mr Sunil Ji was making wrong statements that one divya varsha was

equal

> to one solar year. I supplied him verses from Suryasiddhanta and other

> siddhantas, Mahabharata, but he is under an oath never to accept

truth.

> When Venkatakrishnan Ji supplied him verses from Matsya Purana, SKB

> instantly shifted to Lord Rama. He is accusing me of misinterpreting

one

> divya year as being equal to 360 human years, and says it is my

> invention. When I supply verses from ancient texts, he either abuses

me

> or diverts the topic to Lord Rama. A deliberate distortion of ancient

> texts is a crime. If SKB does not accept the figures given in

> scriptures, he should abuse those scriptures, not me.

>

> Fortunately, Mr B.C. Venkatakrishnan, Daniel F. Salas are normal

> grihastas and not monks, hence they escaped abuses from SKB. In

threads

> dedicated to discussions about ancient siddhanta, he twice advised me

> about the benefits of two tolas of wine every day, knowing full well

> that such an advice should not be given to a monk who is maintaining

> lifelong celibacy (any reference to the term " brahmachaari " makes him

> mad with anger). Why he has so much ire against scriptures and monks

??

> Where lies the fault ? In him, or in the scriptures ? All ancient

texts

> invariably accept one divya year to be equal to 360 human years, while

> SKB wants to pack whole human history within 12000 human years.

Present

> Mahaayuga began 3.9 million years ago. Scientists also accept that

> modern genus of mankind started evolving at about the same time. Mr

B.C.

> Venkatakrishnan says Sun revolves round the galactic centre once every

> 250 year. I believe this figue is about 300 million years, or one

> Manavantara. Evidence of Modern Value of Precession in Bhaskaracharya'

s

> Work based on Suryasiddhanta can be seen at Click_Here

> <http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Ayanamsha+ vs+Precession> .

If

> ancient knowledge was scientific and spread over great extent of time

> and place, persons like SKB get infuriated.

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ============ ========= == ====

> , Sunil Bhattacharjya

> <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr. Venkataraman,

> >

> > Thank you for giving your opinion on the date of Lord Rama. So you

may

> be advocating that the date of the Vedas will also be something like

> Million years ago.

> >

> > From the Pauranic dynasty of the Suryavamsha I find it difficult to

> agrre with you. Further to my knowledge Lord Rama was from the Ikshaku

> Vamsha and Lord Buddha was also from the same Vamsha. I understand

that

> they could have been separated at most by a few thousand years. So let

> us agree to disagree on the date of Lord Rama.

> >

> > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

> >

> >

> >

> > --- On Sat, 5/16/09, venkata krishnan bcvk71@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > venkata krishnan bcvk71@

> > Re: Span of Mahayuga according to Suryasiddhanta

> > " Sunil Bhattacharjya " sunil_bhattacharjya

> > Cc: danielyogi7@ ..., ancient_indian_ astrology,

>

> > Saturday, May 16, 2009, 12:41 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Mr.Sunil,

> > The the LORD RAAMA Avataara took place around

> 9,00,000 years ago according to my research.According to

Srimadbhagavata

> LORD RAAMAAVATAARA took place in this Dretaayuga ( i.e. )

> SVETAVARAAHAKALPA, VAIVASVATAMANVANTAA RA 28th Mahaayuga Dretaayuga.

> > B.C.VENKATAKRISHNAN .

> > website: www.vedascience. com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya

> > venkata krishnan bcvk71@

> > Cc: danielyogi7@ ...; ancient_indian_ astrology;

>

> > Wednesday, May 13, 2009 7:34:57 PM

> > Re: Span of Mahayuga according to Suryasiddhanta

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Mr. Venkataraman,

> >

> > Thank you for the verses and you have given your interpretation of

> these earlier. May I ask you a related question, which is more like a

> corollary to the earlier question. That is what do you think, in the

> light of your interpretation of these verses, is the date of Lord

Rama?

> If you have difficulty in giving the exact figure you may give a

> ball-park figure.

> >

> > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

> >

> >

> >

> > --- On Wed, 5/13/09, venkata krishnan bcvk71@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > venkata krishnan bcvk71@

> > Re: Span of Mahayuga according to Suryasiddhanta

> > " Sunil Bhattacharjya " sunil_bhattacharjya

> > Cc: danielyogi7@ ..., ancient_indian_ astrology,

>

> > Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 5:31 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Mr.Sunil,

> > One correction, the 3,60,000 human years make

> one thousand divine years and not 36,000 human years as typed by me.I

t

> was a typographic error.

> > The original Sanskrit slokas Chapter 142, Slokas 11 to 15 are as

> follows:

> > Sloka No.11

> > trimsadyaani tu varshaaNi divyo maasastu sa smrtah,

> > maanushaaNaam satam yacca divyaa maasaastrayastu vai,

> > patayeva saha sakhyaato divya esha vidhih smrtah.

> >

> > Sloka No.12

> > treeni varshasataanyevam shashti varshaiastathaiva ca,

> > divyah samvatsaro hyesha maanusheNa prakortitah.

> >

> > Sloka No.13

> > treeni varshasahasraaNi maanusheNa pramaaNatah,

> > trimsadanyaani varshaaNi smrtah saptarshivatsarah.

> >

> > Sloka No.14

> > nava yaani sahasraaNi varshaaNaam maanushaaNi ca,

> > varshaaNi navatiscaiva dhdavasamvatsarah smrtha.

> >

> > Sloka No.15

> > shatttamsattu sahasraaNi varshaaNaam maanushaaNi ca,

> > shashtiscaiva sahasraaNi samkhyaataani tu samahyayaa,

> > divyam varshasahasram tu praahuh samahyaavido janaa

> >

> >

> > Regarding the revolutions of Moon and Jupiter the method of

> calculation is the same as Mr Daniel Salas workedout the only

difference

> is that he has taken the number of years of revolution of Sun, Jupiter

> and Moon and divided the actual number of years mentioned in the Texts

> by 1000 which should not be done but the result is same.

> > B.C.VENKATAKRISHNAN .

> > website: www.vedascience. com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya

> > bcvk71@

> > Cc: danielyogi7@ ...; ancient_indian_ astrology;

>

> > Tuesday, May 5, 2009 7:54:29 AM

> > Span of Mahayuga according to Suryasiddhanta

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Mr. Venkataraman,

> >

> > Will you mind giving the five original Sanskrit verses of the Matsya

> Purana Chapter 142, Slokas 11 to 15, which you mentioned.

> >

> > Secondly how do you explain the number of revolutions of the Moon

and

> the Jupiter?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Sunil K.Bhattacharjya

> >

> >

> > --- On Mon, 5/4/09, venkata krishnan bcvk71@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > venkata krishnan bcvk71@

> > Re: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script

> > " Sunil Bhattacharjya " sunil_bhattacharjya , danielyogi7@ ...

> > Monday, May 4, 2009, 2:51 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Mr.Sunil,

> > I agree with Daniel Salas.The only correction

> being 12000 Devavarshas is the span of one Mahaayuga and to get the

span

> of one Mahaayuga in terms ofhuman years we should multply 12000 by

360.

> According to Matsya Purana Chapter 142, Slokas 11 to 15,

> > Meaning:

> > 'Thirty years of men is one month for Devas. A century of

> men is three months and a few days of the Devas. 360 human years make

> one year of the Devas. 3030 years makes one year of the Sapta-rshis.

> 9000 human years, make one year of Dhruva.

> > It is called Dhruva Samvatsara. 36,000 human years make one thousand

> divine years.'

> > B.C.VENKATAKRISHNAN .

> > website: www.vedascience. com

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> > Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya

> > venkata krishnan bcvk71@

> > Sunday, May 3, 2009 1:00:07 PM

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> > Dear Mr. Venkataraman,

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> > You are not replying to the point. Please reply to the points

raised.

> You cannot evade explaining the number of revolutions of the Moon and

> the Jupiter to your convenience. In the geocentric model there is no

> place for your imaginations as they do not simply fit in the

geocentric

> model where the Sun a star becomes a graha, the Moon, a satellite of

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> earth becomes a graha and Jupiter is also a graha. In the geocentric

> model all the grahas revolve round the earth. Nowhere it is mentioned

> that you are to multiply the 12,000 years of Mahayuga years by 360 to

> get human years. For your information 2700 Divyavarsha is equal to

3030

> human years. Please do not furnish unsubstantiated information.

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> > --- On Sat, 5/2/09, venkata krishnan bcvk71@ wrote:

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> > venkata krishnan bcvk71@

> > Re: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script

> > " Sunil Bhattacharjya " sunil_bhattacharjya

> > Cc: " Daniel Salas " danielyogi7@ ...,

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> > One correction, The Suryasidhdhanta mentions as

> 43,20,000 years and not 43,32,000 years which is typographic error.The

> moon takes approximately 29 andodd earth days to revolve arround the

> earth.The earth takes approx 365days approx to revolvearround theSun

> which is also one human year.The sun takes 250million earth years

(i.e.)

> human years to revolve arround the centre of Aakaashaganga( i.e.)

> Milkeyway galaxy.And all these have nothing to do with One Mahaayuga

> the span of which is 12,000 Deva years.If you multiply 12,000 Deva

years

> with 360 human years the result is 43,20,000 human years which is

earth

> years and this is the span of one Mahaayuga.The Sidereal period of

> rotation of the Sun is 25 and odd earthdays and the its period of

> rotation with respect to the earth is 27 and odd days.(Latitude 16

> degrees).The span of one Mahayuga is certainly not the period of

> revolution or rotation of the Sun.The the

> > revolution of earth arround the Sun is called the Solar years.

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> > Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya

> > venkata krishnan bcvk71@

> > Cc: Daniel Salas danielyogi7@ ...;

> ancient_indian_ astrology; @

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> > Sunday, May 3, 2009 2:01:51 AM

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> > Dear Shri Venkatakrishnanji,

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> > If what you are saying is correct then how do you explain that

> according to the Suryasiddhanta the number of revolution of the Moon

is

> slightly greater than that of the Sun and that the number of

revolution

> of the Jupiter is slightly lower than that of the Sun during the same

> Mahayuga period.

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> > Yours sincerely,

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> > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

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> > --- On Sat, 5/2/09, venkata krishnan bcvk71@ wrote:

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> > venkata krishnan bcvk71@

> > Re: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script

> > " Sunil Bhattacharjya " sunil_bhattacharjya , " Daniel Salas "

> danielyogi7@ ...

> > Saturday, May 2, 2009, 12:21 AM

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> > Dear Mr.Daniel Salas,

> > The Suryasiddhana mentioning of

> 43,32000 years is not the Solar years of Rotation of the Sun but the

> Number of human years which is the earth's revolution arround the Sun.

> The Sun revolves arround the centre of the Akashaganga (i.e.)

Milkeyway

> galaxy in 250 million earth years approx which has been proved by

modern

> Astronomy.

> > Yours sincerly,

> > B.C.VENKATAKRISHNAN .

> > website: www.vedascience. com

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> > Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya

> > Daniel Salas danielyogi7@ ...

> > Cc: bcvk71@

> > Saturday, May 2, 2009 5:22:22 AM

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> > Then you may send the correct interpretation of the Suryasiddhanta

to

> the eight others. Suryasiddhanta said that Mahayuga is 4,320,000

> revolutions and not 4,320,000 years. Vinay Jha is confused as he

thinks

> that one revolution means one year.

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> > Thank you,

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> > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

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> > --- On Fri, 5/1/09, Daniel Salas danielyogi7@ ... wrote:

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> > Re: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script

> > " Sunil Bhattacharjya " sunil_bhattacharjya

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> > Sorry, do you want me to retract the Email , I only sent it to 8

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> > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya

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> > Re: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script

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> > You are confusing Vinay jha's mails with my mail. The mail you

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> > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Daniel Salas danielyogi7@ ... wrote:

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> > " Indians (of all ancient siddhaantas, incluing Aryabhatiya,

> Suryasiddhanta, Narada Purana, etc) used to give number of planetary

> revolutions in terms of revolutions per mahayuga " . Suryasiddhanta

> clearly says that one mayayuga of 12000 divya years is equal to

4320000

> solar years during which Sun makes 4320000 revolutions, Moon 57753336,

> Jupiter 364220, and so on. 4320000 revolutions of Sun is not possible

in

> 12000 years.

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> > If you take these numbers as is it makes no sense

> because 4320000 revolutions of the Sun is not possible in 12000 years.

> From Chitra 180 degrees with respect to Dhruva starts the calender at

> Asvin, then one lunar house equals 30 degrees. Due to the precession

of

> the equinox the time period for the equinoctial shift through 1 degree

> of arc was 72 years. The time period for the shift to go through a

whole

> astrological house was 2160 years. 72 x 30= 2160 then 2160 x 2 =

> 4320 a yuga. The callendar mutiplied this number by 100 or in modern

> times you can express the number as 4320.000 three decmil place

> precission .The Yajurveda and Samhita and other books list 27

Naksatras,

> the moon orbits the earth in 27 days (sidereal period see below) each

> night it spends in a Naksatra. The Siddhaanta, Aryabhatiya,

> Suryasiddhanta, Narada Purana have the lunar orbits of a yuga as

> 57753336 agian mutiplied x 100 or 57753.336

> > three decmil place precission. 57753.336 divided by 4320.000 =

> 13.36882 360 / 27 = 13.333... each naksatras is assigned 13.333... of

> the ecliptic.

> > For Jupiter the ancient text have 364220 years again 3 decimal

places

> 4320.000 / 364.220 = 11.860 http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Moon

Jupiter

> completes an orbit every 11.86 years around the Sun The Moon

> makes a complete orbit around the Earth with respect to the fixed

stars

> about once every 27.3 days (its sidereal period). However, since the

> Earth is moving in its orbit about the Sun at the same time, it takes

> slightly longer for the Moon to show its same phase to Earth, which is

> about 29.5 days (its synodic period).[6Earth' s rotation by about

0.002

> seconds per day per century.[52] As a result of the conservation of

> angular momentum, the slowing of Earth's rotation is accompanied by an

> increase of the mean Earth-Moon distance of about 3.8 m per century,

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> 3.8 cm per year.[53]

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