Horoscope, free will and high profile charts (Your prediction on Chiranjeevi)

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Narasimha garu,

 

how do we know that free will exists?.The so called free will can also

be an asumption.As far as my experience goes whatever freewill existed

for humans might have exited.I know majority will never agree but

still......

, " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr

wrote:

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> Namaste,

>

> I will share some freewheeling thoughts, in response to your question.

I am cc'ing this to some astrology lists after removing your name from

the mail.

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> For those who are unaware of the prediction referred to below, here is

a little background.

>

> I had predicted in print in 2000 that Telugu film actor Chiranjeevi

would come into politics in 2007-2009 and and enjoy some political

power. At the time of that prediction, there were no such indications on

the ground. But he did come into politics in the same timeframe. The

initial talk was in 2007, he finally formed a party in 2008 and

elections were in 2009. Though his party did badly, he was elected as a

legislator (MLA) in May 2009.

>

> Thus, the original prediction was quite successful. However, I upped

the ante last year by suggesting that Chiranjeevi's party would do well

in 2009 elections. Though I was not specific regarding his level of

success and did not predict that he would become the Chief Minister, I

was honestly expecting his party to do better than they managed. Thus,

the followup of my original prediction is a failure.

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> It is my personal observation that the success rate in high profile

political predictions is less than in regular predictions like marriage,

job, childbirth etc in " regular " charts.

>

> In some cases, the reason is that the birthdata is not accurate and

yet we are eager to make predictions. But sometimes we make bad

predictions with good data too. Of course, it can be a human error in

judging various factors. However, that human error seems to be a little

more common in high profile political predictions than in regular

predictions. What could be the reason?

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> I wonder if the factor of free will that is left out of astrology

plays a bigger role in political charts. I will try to think loud and

elaborate what I mean.

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> One's birth chart contains the list of actions committed in previous

lives using one's free will that are to give their reactions in this

life. However, as life goes on, one accumulates newer actions committed

in THIS life using one's free will. What happens at any point of time in

one's life is a function of ALL actions committed by one until that

point of time, INCLUDING the actions committed in THIS life until now.

Some key actions committed using one's free will in THIS life,

especially at important crossroads in life, should impact the life

events from then onwards.

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> Many people are weighed down by too many karmas and always playing a

catchup. In other words, destiny (sum of the actions of previous lives

which are to give a reaction now) is too weighty and free will in this

life has little scope. When the options available for the free will in

this life are limited, there may not be significant actions using free

will and hence the modifications to destiny based on actions of this

life may not be big enough. Thus, horoscope may be sufficient to predict

events.

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> However, highly popular, successful and high profile public

personalities may have less restrictions and more options available for

their free will. With their free will being more free and powerful, the

actions committed by their free will may have a higher weightage. As we

are able to see only their destiny in the horoscope (free will exercise

upto birth) and unable to factor in how free will was exercised in this

life until now, we are perhaps handicapped in our predictions.

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> Whether a political leader is in limelight and becomes MP or the

leader of opposition in parliament or the Prime Minister, he is enjoying

some political power. Previous karmas placed him in a position to enjoy

that power. To predict the specific degree of power and make an accurate

prediction, is the horoscope sufficient always? Could the exercise of

free will in this life until now make a difference in some high profile

charts?

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> * * *

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> I am just thinking loud here. Rather than posing a question and

answering it myself, I will let learned friends ponder on this for

themselves...

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

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> Dear PVR garu,

>

> Namaste.

>

> If you don't mind, could you please look in to why your prediction on

Chiranjeevi failed ?

>

> I am not asking this question with a wrong intent. I wanted to

understand if

> 1) It is a human error (May be you ignored some data ? )

> 2) You still can't understand why it failed and you think that was the

correct prediction to be best of your knowledge.

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> I had a 50-50 faith on astrology 3 years ago and after coming to know

about you / your lessons I developed strong faith and I thought all the

failures are not because of astrology but because of astrologer's lack

of knowledge.

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> If it is case #1, it is okay. But if it is case #2, then we have a

problem. We will have to conclude that the Jyotish knowledge that is

available to us at this age is very limited and may not be accurate.

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> Best Regards,

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