Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Scholars: I am by training a scientist. Justifying a mishap after it has happened is laborious but doable and some times easy. We however try to cross every T and dot all i's before beginning a process. 99% of the time every thing works well, however, that remaining 1% is due to an error or some extraneous uncontrollable situation. I believe the AF accident is just that. A question I would like to ask is, does the best of the best astrologer sit at home and views all of his family's horoscopes as to when they are going to die and therefore predict their timing of death in their face. The answer is no. The astrologer views the horoscope only when a calamity happens and tries to predict how to reduce its effects. I hope you get my drift. The intention of this note is not to insult any one but just to put in my two cents worth. Dilip Nene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 To All, Dilip ji says : <<< " 99% of the time every thing works well, however, that remaining 1% is due to an error or some extraneous uncontrollable situation. I believe the AF accident is just that. ....(i.e, there is no astrological factor)..... " >>> This " scientist " is shirking from his basic scientific duty : a scientist ought to explain things instead of burying the problem by putting the blame on some " some extraneous uncontrollable situation " . With so much instantaneous data from satellites and ground stations, why AF447 was not warned about severe atmospheric turbulence in its path ? Even one day after the mishap, some French journalists were shamelessly praising the capacity of Airbus to withstand hurricanes and lightening, and were expressing " surprise " at the disappearance of AF447. <<< " <<< " does the best of the best astrologer sit at home and views all of his family's horoscopes as to when they are going to die and therefore predict their timing of death in their face. The answer is no. The astrologer views the horoscopeonly when a calamity happens and tries to predict how to reduce its effects..........Justifying a mishap after it has happened is laborious but doable and some times easy. " >>> Scientists try to find black boxes & c and then try to find out the causes. Then, they do the act of " Justifying a mishap after it has happened " . But such exercises are necessary for building better crafts. It is another matter that with so much " after the event " analses, scientists like Dilip Ji fail to reduce the frequency of calamities and try to put the blame on " some extraneous uncontrollable situation " ! Dilip Ji does not know that many astrologers have succeeded in making good predictions. But sceptics like Dilip Ji see only the bad astrologers, not the good ones. Moreover, he dislikes " after the event " case studies which is the accepted scientific method for knowing a process. It raises doubts about his faith on scientific method. If Dilip Ji does not object to, may I know his contributions in the field of science, or in any field ? My intention is not to insult any one, but I want to talk something about his discipline, whatever it be, because talking with him on astrology is futile. Thereafter, I will talk about my scientific contributions, verified by NASA and IISc. He has counted all astrologers and had concluded that no one makes correct predictions ! <<< " The intention of this note is not to insult any one " >>> No individual is insulted, only astrology has been insulted by a person who has no knowledge and therefore no faith in it. -VJ ========================== ==== ________________________________ Dilip <ndilipm45 Thursday, June 4, 2009 5:10:05 PM Justification after the fact Scholars: I am by training a scientist. Justifying a mishap after it has happened is laborious but doable and some times easy. We however try to cross every T and dot all i's before beginning a process. 99% of the time every thing works well, however, that remaining 1% is due to an error or some extraneous uncontrollable situation. I believe the AF accident is just that. A question I would like to ask is, does the best of the best astrologer sit at home and views all of his family's horoscopes as to when they are going to die and therefore predict their timing of death in their face. The answer is no. The astrologer views the horoscope only when a calamity happens and tries to predict how to reduce its effects. I hope you get my drift. The intention of this note is not to insult any one but just to put in my two cents worth. Dilip Nene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Dear Mr./Dr. Nene, The basic assumption that when an astrologer is looking at a chart he or she is only using 'logic' is not always true. I have heard from very famous astrologers of our times that they often do some yogic meditation, saadhana etc to clear their mind before seriously looking at a chart. They like others also run into situations where there are multiple factors playing in a chart. They use the acceptable strenght of evidence and weight of evidence approaches, obviously, but they are also helped by their inner astrologer! It is this that often leads their mind to the significant factor or factors and then astrology follows or accompanies. And if they do not admit it, it is not that they are hiding anything or doing it to be hypocritical. Delineation is perhaps a very complex multilayered process and often the individual is not fully aware of all the complex electrical dance that is happening within their brain at the moment. Perhaps a scientist like you may someday design a MRI or PET/CAT scanning experiment while an astrologer is delineating a horoscope. Of course the heavy duty magnets and its 'hum' may overcome the inner beat and disrupt the process of delineation. Sometimes the act of observing changes the response of the observed! RR , " Dilip " <ndilipm45 wrote: > > Scholars: I am by training a scientist. Justifying a mishap after it has happened is laborious but doable and some times easy. > We however try to cross every T and dot all i's before beginning a process. 99% of the time every thing works well, however, that remaining 1% is due to an error or some extraneous uncontrollable situation. > I believe the AF accident is just that. > A question I would like to ask is, does the best of the best astrologer sit at home and views all of his family's horoscopes as to when they are going to die and therefore predict their timing of death in their face. > The answer is no. > The astrologer views the horoscope only when a calamity happens and tries to predict how to reduce its effects. > > I hope you get my drift. > > The intention of this note is not to insult any one but just to put in my two cents worth. > > Dilip Nene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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