Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Dear Moderator Punit Pandey ji, Could you kindly elaborate why "4 Step method is comparatively good" as you said below for the benefit of members and in order to move ahead from the prolonged Q & A stage of 4 step basic principles, which is already posted in the file section of this group under A NOTE ON FOUR STEP THEORY.doc A STUDY NOTE ON FOUR STEP THEORY . Thanks and regards, tw > , "Punit Pandey" <punitp wrote:>> Dear Lajmi ji, Tw ji, Sunil ji and members, > > I expect that all of us will maintain the decorum of the forum and > will focus on learning, NOT on proving or disproving something.> > All members involved here are senior members and I request everybody > to set example for other members. > > 4 Step method is comparatively good and it is good to have a critical > analysis in an open forum. I am watching this thread very closely and > it seems that we have enough discussion. It is advised not to take it > further because it seems that we are deviating from the intention of > learning. > > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@ > wrote:> >> > Dear tw,> > What you've written is undiluted rubbish...it > thoroughly reveals your "paediatric mindset" > > ...and,in any case,this kind of paediatric game of "baiting" will > not provoke me,Tin Win...try somewhere else ...Have you read Eric > Berne's very famous book..."Games people play" ? If not ,pl. do,and I > assure you,after perusing it you could discover yourself and also > exactly "what makes you tick" and hopefully,you will stop playing > such paediatric games...> > Shortcut methods,and "instant learning" is popular in > the US and abroad,it seems...with the help of a few examples which > suit their preconceived ideas,they will pronounce an "axiom",as it > were...only to sheepishly regret it sooner than later... !> > We in India,do not to such "instant > research"...> > Practice K.P., and LEARN K.P., by practical > experience...instead of seeking instant knowledge...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > tw853 tw853@> > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 6:36:54 PM> > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP PRACTICAL > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER> > > > Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,> > > > It seems you don't know how to apply what you're saying practically > > in the life examples. You can say on yourself for the sake of > saying > > only. > > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear tw853,> > > Words and words...? Ha Ha Ha...Cannot be > > helped,if people refuse to understand and argue for arguments' > > sake...> > > A question which I had asked you earlier,and > > went unanswered is being repeated...Just what are you trying to > > prove ?> > > If you are keen to impress people that you have > > more than enough knowledge of K.P., just because you have already > > read various well-known books written by learned > K.P.stalwarts. ...I > > am not impressed...> > > Because, proper application and knowledge are > > two entirely different entities...> > > I have analysed and posted my analyses of very > > many Charts both,Horary and Natal...on many a forum...and I do not > > need any certificate from you...Simply because you said you are a > > beginner,I was just trying to help you learn K.P., better...from > > your mail it appears that you already kmow K.P., as much as > > a 'Pundit' should...> > > The best way to learn K.P., is to "do it > > yourself,if you make mistakes,> > > never mind,learn from them...> > > With best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 5:36:54 AM> > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP PRACTICAL > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER> > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao,> > > > > > Why words and words again and never ever presenting something > > > practically?> > > > > > If you know somehting about those matters as your saying, why > > don't > > > you show with this practical live example chart for the benefits > > of > > > KP learners? > > > > > > You will understand my analysis if you read the books of > > Shanmugam, > > > Bhatt , K. Subramanium and K. Hariharan in respect of health and > > > miserable life. > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Tin Win> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear TW,> > > > I truly admire you for deftly trying to put the > > > ball back into my court...!> > > > As a matter of fact,if ,as you claim,you are a > > > learner...it will certainly be a very good exercise for you to > > find > > > out which houses the s/l of the Ascendant signifies ...(even if > > you > > > need to take the help of books...)> > > > It will firstly, help you to determine the level of > > > the horoscope,and secondly to especially enable you to assess as > > to > > > what percentage of the benefits promised by a planet,the person > is > > > actually destined to enjoy...during it's > > > Dasa/Bhukti/ Antara/sookshma. ..etc.> > > > For example,if is exalted and signifies II & > > > XI...and in a favourable sub...will such a person gain a huge > > amount > > > of wealth ? If not to what extent...High, Middle,Low or the > Lowest > > > level...etc. ! Only K.P. can help you reveal this...and so on...> > > > And, for example,if it signifies I,V,IX and X along > > > with III & VIII,a long life is promised...if it signifies Badhaka > > > and Maraka Houses...a short life is seen...while if the s/l of I > > > signifies VI...one will be sickly...the sickness will begin or > > > worsen during the conjoint periods of the significators of I & > > > VI...and so on...> > > > The s/l of the Ascendant gives a fair idea of the > > > general health of a person ...its not being a significator of > > houses > > > VI,VIII & XII ,shows GOOD health generally ... and so on...> > > > It is very important to first analyse the Lagna > > > thoroughly of any horoscope presented for analysis...as per our > > > revered Guruji KSK... > > > > I fervently hope you are doing this exercise with > > > every Birth Chart presented to you for your perusal and > analysis...> > > > Therefore Tin Winji,I am looking forward to your > > > analyses...> > > > Wishing you the very best...> > > > With kind regards,> > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 8:13:02 PM> > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP PRACTICAL > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER> > > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao,> > > > > > > > 1. Could you kindly present your analysis of the s/l of the > > > > Ascendant in depth for the benefits of all members of this > Group > > > to > > > > discuss and learn something.> > > > > > > > 2. I've done my part as a KP learner and now I request you as a > > KP > > > > Senior to do your part.> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear TW,> > > > > Excellent analysis indeed, but could you pl.analyse > > > > the s/l of the Ascendant in depth ? It should normally confirm > > > your > > > > readings as being on the right track...> > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant,assuming that the TOB is > > > > the exact one,that is...should indicate or atleast confirm all > > > your > > > > findings...> > > > > What are your findings in this regard ?> > > > > It will be interesting to know...could you pl. > > > > throw some light on this ?> > > > > Thanking you in advance please...> > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 10:38:16 AM> > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP PRACTICAL > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER> > > > > > > > > > DEPRESSION> > > > > > > > > > 1. 6th Sbl is Ra. > > > > > > > > > > 2. (Maha) Dasa lord Ra: 7; Asp Ju(3-1-10): Asp Sa+(5-11-12 & > > +2-> > > 4-> > > > 7-> > > > > 8); Stl Ma(2-9); Sgl Me(4-7) (Note: No planet is in the star > > of > > > > Sa, > > > > > which is the Sbl of 2,4,7,8.) Ra is in the sub of Ju(3-1-10)> > > > > > > > > > 3. The occupation of 6th Sbl Ra in 7th and its connection > with > > 3 > > > > > (mental stability), 5 (intelligence, mental stability) and 9 > > > > (higher > > > > > mind) may cause mental aberration. (K. Subramaniam) The other > > > > > possible causes to depression are Asc (head) Conj Ke(7) > (Note: > > > No > > > > > planet is in the star of Ke, which is the Sbl of 9 sending > the > > > > > native to USA in its Bhukti.); Mo (emotional mind) Aspt by Sa > > > > > (depression, miseries, 7-2-8-12); Me (intelligent mind) Conj > Su> > > (7-> > > > 2-> > > > > 6-8-12; 5th occupied by Sa, Ar (first rasi sign as head) Asp > > by > > > Sa > > > > > and occupied by Ma(2-8); 6th Sbl Ra:8-12; 8th Sbl Sa+:8-12. > > and > > > > > 12th Sbl Mo+: 6-12+. (Note: No planet is in the star of Mo, > > > which > > > > is > > > > > the Sbl of 12.) > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra's signification of 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2 > > (Maraka) > > > > is > > > > > unfavorable for health. The repeated signification of 4th, > > i.e. > > > 12 > > > > > to 5th, is also no good for mental stability.> > > > > > > > > > 5. However, there are the relieving factors such as: no > > support > > > of > > > > > Ra's Sbl; Ra can not give it occupational result of 7th since > > Su > > > > is > > > > > in its star. Ju's aspect (to Ra) alone is the exception to > > > relieve > > > > > the adverse effects of Badhaka. (Sri Shanmugam); Asc lord Ju > > Asp > > > > > 9th and Mo; Asc Sbl Ju: 2-3-9-1-10 in its own sub; 6th Sbl Ra > > > > > signifies also 1-5-11, 8th Sbl Sa+ signifies also 5-11 and > > 12th > > > > Sbl > > > > > Mo+ signifies also 11-5.> > > > > > > > > > 6. From the above, the depression is expected to be gone > after > > > Ra > > > > > Dasa and no more in the coming Ju (Maha) Dasa since Ju: 2-3-9-> > 1-> > > 10 > > > > > in its own sub. > > > > > > > > > > SETBACKS IN LIFE> > > > > > > > > > 7. Dasa lord Ra: 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2 (Maraka) may > > > cause > > > > a > > > > > miserable life during its Dasa. Another reason for the > failure > > > in > > > > > further higher study mi be due to a lack of 11th > signification > > > by > > > > > the 9th Sbl Ke and another lack of 9, 11th signification by > > the > > > > > 11th Sbl Me. But 12th Sbl Mo+ signifies both bad houses 5-12+ > > > (bad > > > > > luck, loss of money , cheated) and good houses 6-11 (good > > luck) > > > > and > > > > > most importantly does not signify 8, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2 > > > > > (Maraka). And the life is expected to be much better and > > stable > > > in > > > > > the Ju Dasa.> > > > > > > > > > 8. The marriage is promised and more than one is indicated. > > Love > > > > > marriage is found. Delay and obstacles in marriage are > > indicated > > > > by > > > > > Punarphoo (although cancelled by Dr. Kar's theory); Sa's > > > > occupation > > > > > of the 5th house aspecting 7, 11, 2 houses; connection of > > 2,4,7, > > > 8 > > > > > by the same Sbl Sa (here 8th is disappointment, and 4th is 12 > > to > > > > 5th > > > > > of love affairs) and Ra in 7th house. (Mars Dosha is > cancelled > > > and > > > > > it has been found not working in KP by 2 studies of the > > hundreds > > > > AA > > > > > charts.) > > > > > > > > > > 9. As a KP learner, hit or miss prediction is that job > > > betterment > > > > > can be expected in the current running Ra-Ve dasa, marriage > in > > > the > > > > > Ra-Su dasa perhaps with difficulties and better life in the > > > coming > > > > > Ju dasa with a possibility of foreign job..> > > > > > > > > > Good luck!> > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "kdsips" <kdsips@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks Mr Tin Win for such detailed reply.For the benefit > of > > > > group > > > > > > members I would requsets veterans to kindly share there > > > comments > > > > > > regarding the same.> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > kds> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (3)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. CHART DATA> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla, 03-07-1977, 00:05 AM, Chandigarh (UT), > > > 30N42, > > > > > > > 76E48, New KP Ayanamsa 23-27-10, Asc Pi 15-40-22, Sun > Dasa > > > Bal > > > > > 0Y-> > > > > > 0M-> > > > > > > 0D> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. PAST EVENTS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Ra-Ra-Sa: July 1995, got admission in very reputed > engg > > > > > college > > > > > > > 2) Ra-Ju-Ra: June1999, managed to clear engineering with > > > much > > > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > 3) Ra-Sa to Ra-Me-Me: appeared in IAS 3 times till July > > 2002 > > > > but > > > > > > > couldn't clear it> > > > > > > 4) Ra-Me-Me: august 2002 to DEC 2003, worked in an IAS > > > > coaching > > > > > > > institute in> > > > > > > partnership with his teacher > > > > > > > 5) Ra-Me-Ra: Dec 2003, his partner cheated with him and > > had > > > to > > > > > opt > > > > > > > out of this institute> > > > > > > 6) Ra-Me-Ju: from Dec 2003 to April 2004, under huge > > > > depression, > > > > > > was > > > > > > > idle and sitting in home> > > > > > > 7) Ra-Me-Ra to Ra-Me-Ju: April 2004, got a (paper) > > marriage > > > > > > proposal > > > > > > > from a daughter of IAS officer who was doing masters in > > > Canada> > > > > > > 8) Ra-Ke-Ve: February 2005, got a marriage proposal from > > > > another > > > > > > > girl from Canada> > > > > > > 9) Ra-Ke-Ve: march 2005, got the job in Airtel and worked > > > > there > > > > > > till > > > > > > > august 2005> > > > > > > 10) Ra-Ke-Ju: august 15th 2005, left for USA and joined > > > > college > > > > > in > > > > > > > august 2005, however couldn't study there, stayed in USA > > for > > > > 18 > > > > > > > months and couldn't study at all > > > > > > > 11) Ra-Ve-Su: august 30th 2006, got divorce from the > first > > > girl> > > > > > > 12) Ra-Ve-Ma: January 2007, decided to come back to > India, > > > the > > > > > > > second girl didn't like this and broke off from the native> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today the native is on high dose of Anti depression > > > > drugs. > > > > > At > > > > > > > present he is doing job in Airtel again with salary of > > only > > > > > > Rs10000/.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. DASA> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra: 03-07-1994 to 03-07-2012> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ra: 03-07-1994 to 14-03-1997> > > > > > > Ra-Ju: 15-03-1997 to 08-08-1999> > > > > > > Ra-Sa: 09-08-1999 to 14-06-2002> > > > > > > Ra-Me:15-06- 2002 to 31-12-2004> > > > > > > Ra-Ke: 01-01-2005 to 20-01-2006> > > > > > > Ra-Ve: 21-01-2006 to 20-01-2009> > > > > > > Ra-Su: 21-01-2009 to 14-12-2009> > > > > > > Ra-Mo: 15-12-2009 to 14-06-2011> > > > > > > Ra-Ma: 15-06-2011 to 03-07-2012> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju: 04-07-2012 to 03-07-2028> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Empty houses: 6, 8, 9, 10, 12> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Sa, Ke> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets in own stars (*): Nil> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra is aspected by Ju> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa aspects 2> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10)> > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4> > > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Ju:> > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ve:> > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6> > > > > > > Sublord of Ve is Ju:> > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Su:> > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma(2-9); Asp by Ju> > (3-> > > > 10)> > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Ve:> > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Mo+: 11> > > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Su: 4-6> > > > > > > Sublord of Mo is Ve:> > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ma:> > > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ve: 2-8> > > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4> > > > > > > Planet Ra:> > > > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > Sublord of Ra is Ju:> > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ju:> > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Ju:> > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Sa+: 5-12; Asp 2> > > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 4> > > > > > > Sublord of Sa is Su:> > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma(2-9); Asp by Ju> > (3-> > > > 10)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Me:> > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ju: 3-10> > > > > > > Sublord of Me is Ju:> > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. QUESTIONS TO 4 STEP PRACTITIONERS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Why did such setbacks happen in the already passed > part > > > of > > > > Ra > > > > > > > Maha dasa, which primarily signifies only 2-9 houses?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) How about the future prospects in the rest of Ra dasa > > in > > > > > respect > > > > > > > of marriage, carrier and finance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) How can be differentiated the results in the coming Ju > > > dasa > > > > > with > > > > > > > compared to the present running Ju dasa since their > > primary > > > > > > > significators are exactly the same, i.e. only 2-9 houses.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. REQUEST> > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the benefit of all members of this Group, kindly > > sharing > > > > of > > > > > > your > > > > > > > expertise that has been taught and learned is humbly > > > requested > > > > > (not > > > > > > > free prediction which your Guruji didn't allow) by > > providing > > > > all > > > > > > > necessary calculated data as above.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tin Win > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "kdsips" <kdsips@> > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > thanks once again for your reply.Can you share > something > > > > more > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > career as right now I am in huge career crisis.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hello Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not disclose how I do analysis. My 2 cents > advice > > > to > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > that don't get married in rahu mahadasha. You will > see > > > > more > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > in the remaining period of rahu mahadasha.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter period will be the best period in your life > in > > > > every > > > > > > way.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "kdsips" > <kdsips@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Group members and Mr singh,> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply...> > > > > > > > > > Actually I am new to kp astrology.Can you elaborate > > > how > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > virgo is badhak ,as far as marak is concerned I > > > > understand > > > > > it > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > in 7th house in marak.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also please shed some light on the fact why > marraige > > > > > > > > > unconventional > > > > > > > > > > marraige(I mean to say marriage only on papers and > > not > > > > > > > > consumation)> > > > > > > > > > took place in rahu-mer, and why it broke of in rah-> > > > > venus.I > > > > > > > > mean > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > say what is the role of venus bhukti in rahu maha > > > dasha.> > > > > > > > > > 2) Why my second engagement took off after 2.5 > years > > > of > > > > > > > > sustenence ?> > > > > > > > > > 3) When will my career get settled, will it be in > > > > busines > > > > > or > > > > > > > job?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) why i had to leave my masters degree in b/w and > > had > > > > to > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > back > > > > > > > > > > to india in jan 2007, i mean to say why I couldnt > > > achive > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > distinction in studies during the whole rahu > > dasha????> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are pisces ascendant. In your chart Rahu is > in > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > Virgo sign in a worst placement because 7th house > > > for > > > > > > pisces > > > > > > > > > > > ascendant is both Badhaka and Maraka house. So > > Rahu > > > is > > > > > > > acting > > > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > > > > badhaka and maraka planet for you. Also Rahu is > > > > aspected > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > > > > > > and Saturn.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of Jupiter on Rahu is very good so > your > > > > Rahu-> > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > period from March 1997 to August 1999 must be > good > > > if > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > that time were favorable.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of 12th lord Saturn on Rahu is very > > bad, > > > so > > > > > Rahu-> > > > > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > period from august 1999 to June 2002 must be very > > > bad > > > > if > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > > at that time were also unfavorable.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also the 6th lord sun is in the nakshatra of > rahu, > > > so > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > you 6th house results during Rahu-Sun period in > > > 2009, > > > > > like > > > > > > > > health > > > > > > > > > > > problems or debts or separation in marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should not get married during rahu dasa > again. > > > > Your > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > improve during Jupiter mahadasha after july 2012.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "kdsips" > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Guruji ji and other group members, > > > > > > > > > > > > My name is khushdev ,I have joined this group > > > > > recently.I > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > kp > > > > > > > > > > > > system of astrology.I am in deep menatl pain , > > and > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > requset > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > all to help me out of tis pain .My history is > > > > attached > > > > > > > > > below.Pls > > > > > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > > > > me out of this agony.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name-Khushdev singla> > > > > > > > > > > > Birth date- 03 july 1977> > > > > > > > > > > > time-00.05 am> > > > > > > > > > > > place- chandigarh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 History> > > > > > > > > > > > I am have been running the rahu dasha from mid > > > 1994 > > > > > since > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > having trouble in acedemics and career > > settlement.> > > > > > > > > > > > In july 1995 I got admission in very reputed > > engg > > > > > college > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > electrical stream.At that time I was suffering > > > with > > > > > > > > depression > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > was put on depression pills by psychiatric. > > Though > > > I > > > > > GOT > > > > > > > > > > ADMISSION , > > > > > > > > > > > > but I couldnt perform acedamically good .I used > > to > > > > be > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > > > depression and was unable to study at all.I > > > somehow > > > > > > > managed > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > clear > > > > > > > > > > > > my engineering with much difficulty in > > June1999.I > > > > > opted > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > for a job because i wanted to prepare for IAS > > > > exams.At > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > antardasha of saturn started , I put myself > > wholly > > > > > into > > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > exam > > > > > > > > > > > > putting all my career at stake.I appread in IAS > > > > three > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > > > july > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 but couldnt clear it , to my surprise the > > > > people > > > > > who > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > > getting less marks than me in mock tests got > > > > > selected.My > > > > > > > > > failure > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > a shock for me ,I opted to teach in an IAS > > > coaching > > > > > > > > institute > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > partnership with my teacher.I worked there from > > > > august > > > > > > > 2002 > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > dec > > > > > > > > > > > > 2003.In dec 2003 my partner cheated with me and > > I > > > > have > > > > > to > > > > > > > > opt > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > this institute.> > > > > > > > > > > > I was job less and all my dreams were > > shattered,I > > > > was > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > huge > > > > > > > > > > > > depression from dec 2003 to april 2004.During > > this > > > > > time I > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > idle > > > > > > > > > > > > and was sitting in home.I even had feeling of > > > > > suicideTo > > > > > > > let > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > > > my anti depression pilss were still continuing > > > since > > > > > 1994.> > > > > > > > > > > > In april 2004 out of sudden I got a marriage > > > > proposal > > > > > > from > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > daughter > > > > > > > > > > > > of IAS officer who was doing masters in > > canada.She > > > > was > > > > > in > > > > > > > > india > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > few days and wanted to get married to a guy in > > > > > india.We > > > > > > > > decided > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > for paper marriage and did entered into > physical > > > > > relation> > > > > > > > > > > > We made a resolution that we will enetr into > > > > physical > > > > > > > > relation > > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > three months and will get formal ceremony done > > at > > > > that > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > only.Meanwhile our plans were i will take > > > admission > > > > in > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > will do MTech from there.The girl left for > > canada > > > > and > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > months she decided to discontinue this > > > > relation.Since > > > > > it > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > paper > > > > > > > > > > > > marriage so we had to take a formal divorce.> > > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile I got a marriage proposal from some > > > other > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > > > in feburary 2005.We got engaged I told her > about > > > my > > > > > > > prevous > > > > > > > > > > > marraige > > > > > > > > > > > > so decided not to get married till my first > > > marriage > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > annulled.> > > > > > > > > > > > I was selected by a university in USA to do > > MTech > > > > and > > > > > was > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > join > > > > > > > > > > > > from july 2005.Meanwhile I got the job in > Airtel > > > in > > > > > march > > > > > > > > > 2005.I > > > > > > > > > > > > worked for Airtel till august 2005.I left for > > USA > > > on > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > 15th > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005.The second girl was so nice she cooperated > > > with > > > > > me > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > waited > > > > > > > > > > > > for me so that my divorce is cleared.I joined > > > > college > > > > > in > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > 2005, > > > > > > > > > > > > However i couldnt study there ,I stayed in usa > > for > > > > 18 > > > > > > > months > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > couldnt study at all> > > > > > > > > > > > On august 30th 2006 I got divorce from the > first > > > > > girl.By > > > > > > > > > january > > > > > > > > > > > 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > I decided to come back to India .The second > girl > > > > didnt > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > this , > > > > > > > > > > > > she broke off from me.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today I am on high dose of Anti depression > > > drugs> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My questions are> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Career> > > > > > > > > > > > At present I am doing job in Airtel again with > > > > salary > > > > > of > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > Rs10000/.I sometimes feel misearble that after > > so > > > > much > > > > > > > study > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > and doing BTech from reputed college> > > > > > > > > > > > and even going to USA for higher study why I am > > so > > > > > lowly > > > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > terms of career.> > > > > > > > > > > > What do you see in future for my career.> > > > > > > > > > > > should I do business or job , will I be able to > > > rise > > > > > to > > > > > > > > heights > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > career> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Marriage when will I get married.How will be > > my > > > > > > > > married > > > > > > > > > > life, > > > > > > > > > > > > will my partner be from high status family or > > > not.I > > > > am > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > > > good proposals for marriage at all.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 Financial status how will be my financial > > > > > status.Some > > > > > > > > vedic > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology pandits say that after 2012 in my > > > jupiter > > > > > > dasha > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > rise like anything in career as it will be a > > dasha > > > > of > > > > > > > > lagnesh > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > dashmesh.Is this true???> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls help me out.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla> > > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Dear Tw ji, This is what I think. I think that 4-step is a good enough method and deserve discussion and critical analysis in this forum. That is the reason that we always remained open for the discussion on 4-step. Because you have quoted it amidst of KP / Non-KP discussion, it is important to clarify that " comparative good " has nothing to do with the comparison with KP. This is comparison with generally available astrological system and should be taken in that context. I hope it answers your question. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:59 PM, tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Moderator Punit Pandey ji, Could you kindly elaborate why " 4 Step method is comparatively good " as you said below for the benefit of members and in order to move ahead from the prolonged Q & A stage of 4 step basic principles, which is already posted in the file section of this group under A NOTE ON FOUR STEP THEORY.doc A STUDY NOTE ON FOUR STEP THEORY . Thanks and regards, tw > , " Punit Pandey " <punitp wrote:>> Dear Lajmi ji, Tw ji, Sunil ji and members, > > I expect that all of us will maintain the decorum of the forum and > will focus on learning, NOT on proving or disproving something.> > All members involved here are senior members and I request everybody > to set example for other members. > > 4 Step method is comparatively good and it is good to have a critical > analysis in an open forum. I am watching this thread very closely and > it seems that we have enough discussion. It is advised not to take it > further because it seems that we are deviating from the intention of > learning. > > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@ > wrote:> >> > Dear tw,> > What you've written is undiluted rubbish...it > thoroughly reveals your " paediatric mindset " > > ...and,in any case,this kind of paediatric game of " baiting " will > not provoke me,Tin Win...try somewhere else ...Have you read Eric > Berne's very famous book... " Games people play " ? If not ,pl. do,and I > assure you,after perusing it you could discover yourself and also > exactly " what makes you tick " and hopefully,you will stop playing > such paediatric games...> > Shortcut methods,and " instant learning " is popular in > the US and abroad,it seems...with the help of a few examples which > suit their preconceived ideas,they will pronounce an " axiom " ,as it > were...only to sheepishly regret it sooner than later... !> > We in India,do not to such " instant > research " ... > > Practice K.P., and LEARN K.P., by practical > experience...instead of seeking instant knowledge...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > tw853 tw853@> > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 6:36:54 PM> > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP PRACTICAL > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER> > > > Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,> > > > It seems you don't know how to apply what you're saying practically > > in the life examples. You can say on yourself for the sake of > saying > > only. > > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear tw853,> > > Words and words...? Ha Ha Ha...Cannot be > > helped,if people refuse to understand and argue for arguments' > > sake...> > > A question which I had asked you earlier,and > > went unanswered is being repeated...Just what are you trying to > > prove ?> > > If you are keen to impress people that you have > > more than enough knowledge of K.P., just because you have already > > read various well-known books written by learned > K.P.stalwarts. ...I > > am not impressed...> > > Because, proper application and knowledge are > > two entirely different entities...> > > I have analysed and posted my analyses of very > > many Charts both,Horary and Natal...on many a forum...and I do not > > need any certificate from you...Simply because you said you are a > > beginner,I was just trying to help you learn K.P., better...from > > your mail it appears that you already kmow K.P., as much as > > a 'Pundit' should...> > > The best way to learn K.P., is to " do it > > yourself,if you make mistakes,> > > never mind,learn from them...> > > With best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > @gro ups.com > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 5:36:54 AM> > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP PRACTICAL > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER> > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao, > > > > > > Why words and words again and never ever presenting something > > > practically?> > > > > > If you know somehting about those matters as your saying, why > > don't > > > you show with this practical live example chart for the benefits > > of > > > KP learners? > > > > > > You will understand my analysis if you read the books of > > Shanmugam, > > > Bhatt , K. Subramanium and K. Hariharan in respect of health and > > > miserable life. > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Tin Win > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear TW,> > > > I truly admire you for deftly trying to put the > > > ball back into my court...!> > > > As a matter of fact,if ,as you claim,you are a > > > learner...it will certainly be a very good exercise for you to > > find > > > out which houses the s/l of the Ascendant signifies ...(even if > > you > > > need to take the help of books...) > > > > It will firstly, help you to determine the level of > > > the horoscope,and secondly to especially enable you to assess as > > to > > > what percentage of the benefits promised by a planet,the person > is > > > actually destined to enjoy...during it's > > > Dasa/Bhukti/ Antara/sookshma. ..etc.> > > > For example,if is exalted and signifies II & > > > XI...and in a favourable sub...will such a person gain a huge > > amount > > > of wealth ? If not to what extent...High, Middle,Low or the > Lowest > > > level...etc. ! Only K.P. can help you reveal this...and so on...> > > > And, for example,if it signifies I,V,IX and X along > > > with III & VIII,a long life is promised...if it signifies Badhaka > > > and Maraka Houses...a short life is seen...while if the s/l of I > > > signifies VI...one will be sickly...the sickness will begin or > > > worsen during the conjoint periods of the significators of I & > > > VI...and so on...> > > > The s/l of the Ascendant gives a fair idea of the > > > general health of a person ...its not being a significator of > > houses > > > VI,VIII & XII ,shows GOOD health generally ... and so on...> > > > It is very important to first analyse the Lagna > > > thoroughly of any horoscope presented for analysis...as per our > > > revered Guruji KSK... > > > > I fervently hope you are doing this exercise with > > > every Birth Chart presented to you for your perusal and > analysis...> > > > Therefore Tin Winji,I am looking forward to your > > > analyses...> > > > Wishing you the very best...> > > > With kind regards,> > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 8:13:02 PM> > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP PRACTICAL > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER> > > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao,> > > > > > > > 1. Could you kindly present your analysis of the s/l of the > > > > Ascendant in depth for the benefits of all members of this > Group > > > to > > > > discuss and learn something.> > > > > > > > 2. I've done my part as a KP learner and now I request you as a > > KP > > > > Senior to do your part.> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear TW,> > > > > Excellent analysis indeed, but could you pl.analyse > > > > the s/l of the Ascendant in depth ? It should normally confirm > > > your > > > > readings as being on the right track...> > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant,assuming that the TOB is > > > > the exact one,that is...should indicate or atleast confirm all > > > your > > > > findings...> > > > > What are your findings in this regard ?> > > > > It will be interesting to know...could you pl. > > > > throw some light on this ? > > > > > Thanking you in advance please...> > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 10:38:16 AM> > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP PRACTICAL > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER> > > > > > > > > > DEPRESSION> > > > > > > > > > 1. 6th Sbl is Ra. > > > > > > > > > > 2. (Maha) Dasa lord Ra: 7; Asp Ju(3-1-10): Asp Sa+(5-11-12 & > > +2-> > > 4-> > > > 7-> > > > > 8); Stl Ma(2-9); Sgl Me(4-7) (Note: No planet is in the star > > of > > > > Sa, > > > > > which is the Sbl of 2,4,7,8.) Ra is in the sub of Ju(3-1-10)> > > > > > > > > > 3. The occupation of 6th Sbl Ra in 7th and its connection > with > > 3 > > > > > (mental stability), 5 (intelligence, mental stability) and 9 > > > > (higher > > > > > mind) may cause mental aberration. (K. Subramaniam) The other > > > > > possible causes to depression are Asc (head) Conj Ke(7) > (Note: > > > No > > > > > planet is in the star of Ke, which is the Sbl of 9 sending > the > > > > > native to USA in its Bhukti.); Mo (emotional mind) Aspt by Sa > > > > > (depression, miseries, 7-2-8-12); Me (intelligent mind) Conj > Su> > > (7-> > > > 2- > > > > > 6-8-12; 5th occupied by Sa, Ar (first rasi sign as head) Asp > > by > > > Sa > > > > > and occupied by Ma(2-8); 6th Sbl Ra:8-12; 8th Sbl Sa+:8-12. > > and > > > > > 12th Sbl Mo+: 6-12+. (Note: No planet is in the star of Mo, > > > which > > > > is > > > > > the Sbl of 12.) > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra's signification of 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2 > > (Maraka) > > > > is > > > > > unfavorable for health. The repeated signification of 4th, > > i.e. > > > 12 > > > > > to 5th, is also no good for mental stability. > > > > > > > > > > 5. However, there are the relieving factors such as: no > > support > > > of > > > > > Ra's Sbl; Ra can not give it occupational result of 7th since > > Su > > > > is > > > > > in its star. Ju's aspect (to Ra) alone is the exception to > > > relieve > > > > > the adverse effects of Badhaka. (Sri Shanmugam); Asc lord Ju > > Asp > > > > > 9th and Mo; Asc Sbl Ju: 2-3-9-1-10 in its own sub; 6th Sbl Ra > > > > > signifies also 1-5-11, 8th Sbl Sa+ signifies also 5-11 and > > 12th > > > > Sbl > > > > > Mo+ signifies also 11-5.> > > > > > > > > > 6. From the above, the depression is expected to be gone > after > > > Ra > > > > > Dasa and no more in the coming Ju (Maha) Dasa since Ju: 2-3-9- > > 1-> > > 10 > > > > > in its own sub. > > > > > > > > > > SETBACKS IN LIFE> > > > > > > > > > 7. Dasa lord Ra: 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2 (Maraka) may > > > cause > > > > a > > > > > miserable life during its Dasa. Another reason for the > failure > > > in > > > > > further higher study mi be due to a lack of 11th > signification > > > by > > > > > the 9th Sbl Ke and another lack of 9, 11th signification by > > the > > > > > 11th Sbl Me. But 12th Sbl Mo+ signifies both bad houses 5-12+ > > > (bad > > > > > luck, loss of money , cheated) and good houses 6-11 (good > > luck) > > > > and > > > > > most importantly does not signify 8, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2 > > > > > (Maraka). And the life is expected to be much better and > > stable > > > in > > > > > the Ju Dasa.> > > > > > > > > > 8. The marriage is promised and more than one is indicated. > > Love > > > > > marriage is found. Delay and obstacles in marriage are > > indicated > > > > by > > > > > Punarphoo (although cancelled by Dr. Kar's theory); Sa's > > > > occupation > > > > > of the 5th house aspecting 7, 11, 2 houses; connection of > > 2,4,7, > > > 8 > > > > > by the same Sbl Sa (here 8th is disappointment, and 4th is 12 > > to > > > > 5th > > > > > of love affairs) and Ra in 7th house. (Mars Dosha is > cancelled > > > and > > > > > it has been found not working in KP by 2 studies of the > > hundreds > > > > AA > > > > > charts.) > > > > > > > > > > 9. As a KP learner, hit or miss prediction is that job > > > betterment > > > > > can be expected in the current running Ra-Ve dasa, marriage > in > > > the > > > > > Ra-Su dasa perhaps with difficulties and better life in the > > > coming > > > > > Ju dasa with a possibility of foreign job..> > > > > > > > > > Good luck!> > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " <kdsips@> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks Mr Tin Win for such detailed reply.For the benefit > of > > > > group > > > > > > members I would requsets veterans to kindly share there > > > comments > > > > > > regarding the same.> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > kds> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (3)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. CHART DATA> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla, 03-07-1977, 00:05 AM, Chandigarh (UT), > > > 30N42, > > > > > > > 76E48, New KP Ayanamsa 23-27-10, Asc Pi 15-40-22, Sun > Dasa > > > Bal > > > > > 0Y-> > > > > > 0M-> > > > > > > 0D> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. PAST EVENTS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Ra-Ra-Sa: July 1995, got admission in very reputed > engg > > > > > college > > > > > > > 2) Ra-Ju-Ra: June1999, managed to clear engineering with > > > much > > > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > 3) Ra-Sa to Ra-Me-Me: appeared in IAS 3 times till July > > 2002 > > > > but > > > > > > > couldn't clear it > > > > > > > 4) Ra-Me-Me: august 2002 to DEC 2003, worked in an IAS > > > > coaching > > > > > > > institute in> > > > > > > partnership with his teacher > > > > > > > 5) Ra-Me-Ra: Dec 2003, his partner cheated with him and > > had > > > to > > > > > opt > > > > > > > out of this institute > > > > > > > 6) Ra-Me-Ju: from Dec 2003 to April 2004, under huge > > > > depression, > > > > > > was > > > > > > > idle and sitting in home > > > > > > > 7) Ra-Me-Ra to Ra-Me-Ju: April 2004, got a (paper) > > marriage > > > > > > proposal > > > > > > > from a daughter of IAS officer who was doing masters in > > > Canada> > > > > > > 8) Ra-Ke-Ve: February 2005, got a marriage proposal from > > > > another > > > > > > > girl from Canada> > > > > > > 9) Ra-Ke-Ve: march 2005, got the job in Airtel and worked > > > > there > > > > > > till > > > > > > > august 2005> > > > > > > 10) Ra-Ke-Ju: august 15th 2005, left for USA and joined > > > > college > > > > > in > > > > > > > august 2005, however couldn't study there, stayed in USA > > for > > > > 18 > > > > > > > months and couldn't study at all > > > > > > > 11) Ra-Ve-Su: august 30th 2006, got divorce from the > first > > > girl> > > > > > > 12) Ra-Ve-Ma: January 2007, decided to come back to > India, > > > the > > > > > > > second girl didn't like this and broke off from the native> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today the native is on high dose of Anti depression > > > > drugs. > > > > > At > > > > > > > present he is doing job in Airtel again with salary of > > only > > > > > > Rs10000/.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. DASA> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra: 03-07-1994 to 03-07-2012> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ra: 03-07-1994 to 14-03-1997 > > > > > > > Ra-Ju: 15-03-1997 to 08-08-1999> > > > > > > Ra-Sa: 09-08-1999 to 14-06-2002> > > > > > > Ra-Me:15-06- 2002 to 31-12-2004> > > > > > > Ra-Ke: 01-01-2005 to 20-01-2006 > > > > > > > Ra-Ve: 21-01-2006 to 20-01-2009> > > > > > > Ra-Su: 21-01-2009 to 14-12-2009> > > > > > > Ra-Mo: 15-12-2009 to 14-06-2011> > > > > > > Ra-Ma: 15-06-2011 to 03-07-2012 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju: 04-07-2012 to 03-07-2028> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Empty houses: 6, 8, 9, 10, 12> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Sa, Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets in own stars (*): Nil> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra is aspected by Ju> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa aspects 2> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10)> > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4> > > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Ju: > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ve:> > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6> > > > > > > Sublord of Ve is Ju: > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Su:> > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma(2-9); Asp by Ju > > (3-> > > > 10)> > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Ve:> > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Mo+: 11 > > > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Su: 4-6> > > > > > > Sublord of Mo is Ve:> > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ma:> > > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ve: 2-8> > > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4> > > > > > > Planet Ra:> > > > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > Sublord of Ra is Ju: > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ju:> > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Ju: > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Sa+: 5-12; Asp 2> > > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 4 > > > > > > > Sublord of Sa is Su:> > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma(2-9); Asp by Ju> > (3-> > > > 10)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Me:> > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ju: 3-10> > > > > > > Sublord of Me is Ju:> > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. QUESTIONS TO 4 STEP PRACTITIONERS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Why did such setbacks happen in the already passed > part > > > of > > > > Ra > > > > > > > Maha dasa, which primarily signifies only 2-9 houses?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) How about the future prospects in the rest of Ra dasa > > in > > > > > respect > > > > > > > of marriage, carrier and finance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) How can be differentiated the results in the coming Ju > > > dasa > > > > > with > > > > > > > compared to the present running Ju dasa since their > > primary > > > > > > > significators are exactly the same, i.e. only 2-9 houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. REQUEST> > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the benefit of all members of this Group, kindly > > sharing > > > > of > > > > > > your > > > > > > > expertise that has been taught and learned is humbly > > > requested > > > > > (not > > > > > > > free prediction which your Guruji didn't allow) by > > providing > > > > all > > > > > > > necessary calculated data as above.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tin Win > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " <kdsips@> > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > thanks once again for your reply.Can you share > something > > > > more > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > career as right now I am in huge career crisis.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hello Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not disclose how I do analysis. My 2 cents > advice > > > to > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > that don't get married in rahu mahadasha. You will > see > > > > more > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > in the remaining period of rahu mahadasha.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter period will be the best period in your life > in > > > > every > > > > > > way.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " > <kdsips@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Group members and Mr singh,> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply... > > > > > > > > > > Actually I am new to kp astrology.Can you elaborate > > > how > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > virgo is badhak ,as far as marak is concerned I > > > > understand > > > > > it > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > in 7th house in marak.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also please shed some light on the fact why > marraige > > > > > > > > > unconventional > > > > > > > > > > marraige(I mean to say marriage only on papers and > > not > > > > > > > > consumation)> > > > > > > > > > took place in rahu-mer, and why it broke of in rah-> > > > > venus.I > > > > > > > > mean > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > say what is the role of venus bhukti in rahu maha > > > dasha.> > > > > > > > > > 2) Why my second engagement took off after 2.5 > years > > > of > > > > > > > > sustenence ?> > > > > > > > > > 3) When will my career get settled, will it be in > > > > busines > > > > > or > > > > > > > job?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) why i had to leave my masters degree in b/w and > > had > > > > to > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > back > > > > > > > > > > to india in jan 2007, i mean to say why I couldnt > > > achive > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > distinction in studies during the whole rahu > > dasha????> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are pisces ascendant. In your chart Rahu is > in > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > Virgo sign in a worst placement because 7th house > > > for > > > > > > pisces > > > > > > > > > > > ascendant is both Badhaka and Maraka house. So > > Rahu > > > is > > > > > > > acting > > > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > > > > badhaka and maraka planet for you. Also Rahu is > > > > aspected > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > > > > > > and Saturn.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of Jupiter on Rahu is very good so > your > > > > Rahu-> > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > period from March 1997 to August 1999 must be > good > > > if > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > that time were favorable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of 12th lord Saturn on Rahu is very > > bad, > > > so > > > > > Rahu- > > > > > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > period from august 1999 to June 2002 must be very > > > bad > > > > if > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > > at that time were also unfavorable.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also the 6th lord sun is in the nakshatra of > rahu, > > > so > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > you 6th house results during Rahu-Sun period in > > > 2009, > > > > > like > > > > > > > > health > > > > > > > > > > > problems or debts or separation in marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should not get married during rahu dasa > again. > > > > Your > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > improve during Jupiter mahadasha after july 2012.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Guruji ji and other group members, > > > > > > > > > > > > My name is khushdev ,I have joined this group > > > > > recently.I > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > kp > > > > > > > > > > > > system of astrology.I am in deep menatl pain , > > and > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > requset > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > all to help me out of tis pain .My history is > > > > attached > > > > > > > > > below.Pls > > > > > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > > > > me out of this agony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name-Khushdev singla> > > > > > > > > > > > Birth date- 03 july 1977 > > > > > > > > > > > > time-00.05 am> > > > > > > > > > > > place- chandigarh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 History> > > > > > > > > > > > I am have been running the rahu dasha from mid > > > 1994 > > > > > since > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > having trouble in acedemics and career > > settlement.> > > > > > > > > > > > In july 1995 I got admission in very reputed > > engg > > > > > college > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > electrical stream.At that time I was suffering > > > with > > > > > > > > depression > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > was put on depression pills by psychiatric. > > Though > > > I > > > > > GOT > > > > > > > > > > ADMISSION , > > > > > > > > > > > > but I couldnt perform acedamically good .I used > > to > > > > be > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > > > depression and was unable to study at all.I > > > somehow > > > > > > > managed > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > clear > > > > > > > > > > > > my engineering with much difficulty in > > June1999.I > > > > > opted > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > for a job because i wanted to prepare for IAS > > > > exams.At > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > antardasha of saturn started , I put myself > > wholly > > > > > into > > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > exam > > > > > > > > > > > > putting all my career at stake.I appread in IAS > > > > three > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > > > july > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 but couldnt clear it , to my surprise the > > > > people > > > > > who > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > > getting less marks than me in mock tests got > > > > > selected.My > > > > > > > > > failure > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > a shock for me ,I opted to teach in an IAS > > > coaching > > > > > > > > institute > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > partnership with my teacher.I worked there from > > > > august > > > > > > > 2002 > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > dec > > > > > > > > > > > > 2003.In dec 2003 my partner cheated with me and > > I > > > > have > > > > > to > > > > > > > > opt > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > this institute.> > > > > > > > > > > > I was job less and all my dreams were > > shattered,I > > > > was > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > huge > > > > > > > > > > > > depression from dec 2003 to april 2004.During > > this > > > > > time I > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > idle > > > > > > > > > > > > and was sitting in home.I even had feeling of > > > > > suicideTo > > > > > > > let > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > > > my anti depression pilss were still continuing > > > since > > > > > 1994.> > > > > > > > > > > > In april 2004 out of sudden I got a marriage > > > > proposal > > > > > > from > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > daughter > > > > > > > > > > > > of IAS officer who was doing masters in > > canada.She > > > > was > > > > > in > > > > > > > > india > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > few days and wanted to get married to a guy in > > > > > india.We > > > > > > > > decided > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > for paper marriage and did entered into > physical > > > > > relation> > > > > > > > > > > > We made a resolution that we will enetr into > > > > physical > > > > > > > > relation > > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > three months and will get formal ceremony done > > at > > > > that > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > only.Meanwhile our plans were i will take > > > admission > > > > in > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > will do MTech from there.The girl left for > > canada > > > > and > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > months she decided to discontinue this > > > > relation.Since > > > > > it > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > paper > > > > > > > > > > > > marriage so we had to take a formal divorce. > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile I got a marriage proposal from some > > > other > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > > > in feburary 2005.We got engaged I told her > about > > > my > > > > > > > prevous > > > > > > > > > > > marraige > > > > > > > > > > > > so decided not to get married till my first > > > marriage > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > annulled. > > > > > > > > > > > > I was selected by a university in USA to do > > MTech > > > > and > > > > > was > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > join > > > > > > > > > > > > from july 2005.Meanwhile I got the job in > Airtel > > > in > > > > > march > > > > > > > > > 2005.I > > > > > > > > > > > > worked for Airtel till august 2005.I left for > > USA > > > on > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > 15th > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005.The second girl was so nice she cooperated > > > with > > > > > me > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > waited > > > > > > > > > > > > for me so that my divorce is cleared.I joined > > > > college > > > > > in > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > 2005, > > > > > > > > > > > > However i couldnt study there ,I stayed in usa > > for > > > > 18 > > > > > > > months > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > couldnt study at all > > > > > > > > > > > > On august 30th 2006 I got divorce from the > first > > > > > girl.By > > > > > > > > > january > > > > > > > > > > > 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > I decided to come back to India .The second > girl > > > > didnt > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > this , > > > > > > > > > > > > she broke off from me.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today I am on high dose of Anti depression > > > drugs> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My questions are> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Career> > > > > > > > > > > > At present I am doing job in Airtel again with > > > > salary > > > > > of > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > Rs10000/.I sometimes feel misearble that after > > so > > > > much > > > > > > > study > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > and doing BTech from reputed college > > > > > > > > > > > > and even going to USA for higher study why I am > > so > > > > > lowly > > > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > terms of career.> > > > > > > > > > > > What do you see in future for my career.> > > > > > > > > > > > should I do business or job , will I be able to > > > rise > > > > > to > > > > > > > > heights > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > career> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Marriage when will I get married.How will be > > my > > > > > > > > married > > > > > > > > > > life, > > > > > > > > > > > > will my partner be from high status family or > > > not.I > > > > am > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > > > good proposals for marriage at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 Financial status how will be my financial > > > > > status.Some > > > > > > > > vedic > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology pandits say that after 2012 in my > > > jupiter > > > > > > dasha > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > rise like anything in career as it will be a > > dasha > > > > of > > > > > > > > lagnesh > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > dashmesh.Is this true??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls help me out.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla> > > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Dear Punit Pandey ji, If this is your thinking without any particular reason, I've nothing to say. Regarding discussion, are allowed for that purpose. Thanks and regards, tw , " Punit Pandey " <punitp wrote: > > Dear Tw ji, > > This is what I think. I think that 4-step is a good enough method and > deserve discussion and critical analysis in this forum. That is the > reason that we always remained open for the discussion on 4-step. > > Because you have quoted it amidst of KP / Non-KP discussion, it is important > to clarify that " comparative good " has nothing to do with the comparison > with KP. This is comparison with generally available astrological system and > should be taken in that context. > > I hope it answers your question. > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:59 PM, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > > Dear Moderator Punit Pandey ji, > > > > Could you kindly elaborate why " 4 Step method is comparatively good " as > > you said below for the benefit of members and in order to move ahead from > > the prolonged Q & A stage of 4 step basic principles, which is already > > posted in the file section of this group under > > > > *A NOTE ON FOUR STEP THEORY.doc*<http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/QKPjRwcgEXqlcBWctdNQn- D6sDjG_T9vVCByUzxoeKIuwgwp7-o8DecWg1il1EGOmngy5oiIYWnHMTa- YX1jboUZEw/A%20NOTE%20ON%20FOUR%20STEP%20THEORY.doc> > > * * > > A STUDY NOTE ON FOUR STEP THEORY . > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > , " Punit Pandey " <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, Tw ji, Sunil ji and members, > > > > > > I expect that all of us will maintain the decorum of the forum and > > > will focus on learning, NOT on proving or disproving something. > > > > > > All members involved here are senior members and I request everybody > > > to set example for other members. > > > > > > 4 Step method is comparatively good and it is good to have a critical > > > analysis in an open forum. I am watching this thread very closely and > > > it seems that we have enough discussion. It is advised not to take it > > > further because it seems that we are deviating from the intention of > > > learning. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear tw, > > > > What you've written is undiluted rubbish...it > > > thoroughly reveals your " paediatric mindset " > > > > ...and,in any case,this kind of paediatric game of " baiting " will > > > not provoke me,Tin Win...try somewhere else ...Have you read Eric > > > Berne's very famous book... " Games people play " ? If not ,pl. do,and I > > > assure you,after perusing it you could discover yourself and also > > > exactly " what makes you tick " and hopefully,you will stop playing > > > such paediatric games... > > > > Shortcut methods,and " instant learning " is popular in > > > the US and abroad,it seems...with the help of a few examples which > > > suit their preconceived ideas,they will pronounce an " axiom " ,as it > > > were...only to sheepishly regret it sooner than later... ! > > > > We in India,do not to such " instant > > > research " ... > > > > Practice K.P., and LEARN K.P., by practical > > > experience...instead of seeking instant knowledge... > > > > With best wishes, > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 tw853@ > > > > > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 6:36:54 PM > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP PRACTICAL > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi, > > > > > > > > It seems you don't know how to apply what you're saying practically > > > > in the life examples. You can say on yourself for the sake of > > > saying > > > > only. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear tw853, > > > > > Words and words...? Ha Ha Ha...Cannot be > > > > helped,if people refuse to understand and argue for arguments' > > > > sake... > > > > > A question which I had asked you earlier,and > > > > went unanswered is being repeated...Just what are you trying to > > > > prove ? > > > > > If you are keen to impress people that you have > > > > more than enough knowledge of K.P., just because you have already > > > > read various well-known books written by learned > > > K.P.stalwarts. ...I > > > > am not impressed... > > > > > Because, proper application and knowledge are > > > > two entirely different entities... > > > > > I have analysed and posted my analyses of very > > > > many Charts both,Horary and Natal...on many a forum...and I do not > > > > need any certificate from you...Simply because you said you are a > > > > beginner,I was just trying to help you learn K.P., better...from > > > > your mail it appears that you already kmow K.P., as much as > > > > a 'Pundit' should... > > > > > The best way to learn K.P., is to " do it > > > > yourself,if you make mistakes, > > > > > never mind,learn from them... > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 5:36:54 AM > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP PRACTICAL > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao, > > > > > > > > > > Why words and words again and never ever presenting something > > > > > practically? > > > > > > > > > > If you know somehting about those matters as your saying, why > > > > don't > > > > > you show with this practical live example chart for the benefits > > > > of > > > > > KP learners? > > > > > > > > > > You will understand my analysis if you read the books of > > > > Shanmugam, > > > > > Bhatt , K. Subramanium and K. Hariharan in respect of health and > > > > > miserable life. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tin Win > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TW, > > > > > > I truly admire you for deftly trying to put the > > > > > ball back into my court...! > > > > > > As a matter of fact,if ,as you claim,you are a > > > > > learner...it will certainly be a very good exercise for you to > > > > find > > > > > out which houses the s/l of the Ascendant signifies ... (even if > > > > you > > > > > need to take the help of books...) > > > > > > It will firstly, help you to determine the level of > > > > > the horoscope,and secondly to especially enable you to assess as > > > > to > > > > > what percentage of the benefits promised by a planet,the person > > > is > > > > > actually destined to enjoy...during it's > > > > > Dasa/Bhukti/ Antara/sookshma. ..etc. > > > > > > For example,if is exalted and signifies II & > > > > > XI...and in a favourable sub...will such a person gain a huge > > > > amount > > > > > of wealth ? If not to what extent...High, Middle,Low or the > > > Lowest > > > > > level...etc. ! Only K.P. can help you reveal this...and so on... > > > > > > And, for example,if it signifies I,V,IX and X along > > > > > with III & VIII,a long life is promised...if it signifies Badhaka > > > > > and Maraka Houses...a short life is seen...while if the s/l of I > > > > > signifies VI...one will be sickly...the sickness will begin or > > > > > worsen during the conjoint periods of the significators of I & > > > > > VI...and so on... > > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant gives a fair idea of the > > > > > general health of a person ...its not being a significator of > > > > houses > > > > > VI,VIII & XII ,shows GOOD health generally ... and so on... > > > > > > It is very important to first analyse the Lagna > > > > > thoroughly of any horoscope presented for analysis...as per our > > > > > revered Guruji KSK... > > > > > > I fervently hope you are doing this exercise with > > > > > every Birth Chart presented to you for your perusal and > > > analysis... > > > > > > Therefore Tin Winji,I am looking forward to your > > > > > analyses... > > > > > > Wishing you the very best... > > > > > > With kind regards, > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 8:13:02 PM > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP PRACTICAL > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao, > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Could you kindly present your analysis of the s/l of the > > > > > > Ascendant in depth for the benefits of all members of this > > > Group > > > > > to > > > > > > discuss and learn something. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I've done my part as a KP learner and now I request you as a > > > > KP > > > > > > Senior to do your part. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TW, > > > > > > > Excellent analysis indeed, but could you pl.analyse > > > > > > the s/l of the Ascendant in depth ? It should normally confirm > > > > > your > > > > > > readings as being on the right track... > > > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant,assuming that the TOB is > > > > > > the exact one,that is...should indicate or atleast confirm all > > > > > your > > > > > > findings... > > > > > > > What are your findings in this regard ? > > > > > > > It will be interesting to know...could you pl. > > > > > > throw some light on this ? > > > > > > > Thanking you in advance please... > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 10:38:16 AM > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP PRACTICAL > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DEPRESSION > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. 6th Sbl is Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. (Maha) Dasa lord Ra: 7; Asp Ju(3-1-10): Asp Sa+(5- 11-12 & > > > > +2- > > > > > 4- > > > > > > 7- > > > > > > > 8); Stl Ma(2-9); Sgl Me(4-7) (Note: No planet is in the star > > > > of > > > > > > Sa, > > > > > > > which is the Sbl of 2,4,7,8.) Ra is in the sub of Ju(3- 1-10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. The occupation of 6th Sbl Ra in 7th and its connection > > > with > > > > 3 > > > > > > > (mental stability), 5 (intelligence, mental stability) and 9 > > > > > > (higher > > > > > > > mind) may cause mental aberration. (K. Subramaniam) The other > > > > > > > possible causes to depression are Asc (head) Conj Ke(7) > > > (Note: > > > > > No > > > > > > > planet is in the star of Ke, which is the Sbl of 9 sending > > > the > > > > > > > native to USA in its Bhukti.); Mo (emotional mind) Aspt by Sa > > > > > > > (depression, miseries, 7-2-8-12); Me (intelligent mind) Conj > > > Su > > > > > (7- > > > > > > 2- > > > > > > > 6-8-12; 5th occupied by Sa, Ar (first rasi sign as head) Asp > > > > by > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > and occupied by Ma(2-8); 6th Sbl Ra:8-12; 8th Sbl Sa+:8-12. > > > > and > > > > > > > 12th Sbl Mo+: 6-12+. (Note: No planet is in the star of Mo, > > > > > which > > > > > > is > > > > > > > the Sbl of 12.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra's signification of 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2 > > > > (Maraka) > > > > > > is > > > > > > > unfavorable for health. The repeated signification of 4th, > > > > i.e. > > > > > 12 > > > > > > > to 5th, is also no good for mental stability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. However, there are the relieving factors such as: no > > > > support > > > > > of > > > > > > > Ra's Sbl; Ra can not give it occupational result of 7th since > > > > Su > > > > > > is > > > > > > > in its star. Ju's aspect (to Ra) alone is the exception to > > > > > relieve > > > > > > > the adverse effects of Badhaka. (Sri Shanmugam); Asc lord Ju > > > > Asp > > > > > > > 9th and Mo; Asc Sbl Ju: 2-3-9-1-10 in its own sub; 6th Sbl Ra > > > > > > > signifies also 1-5-11, 8th Sbl Sa+ signifies also 5-11 and > > > > 12th > > > > > > Sbl > > > > > > > Mo+ signifies also 11-5. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. From the above, the depression is expected to be gone > > > after > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > Dasa and no more in the coming Ju (Maha) Dasa since Ju: 2-3-9- > > > > 1- > > > > > 10 > > > > > > > in its own sub. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SETBACKS IN LIFE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. Dasa lord Ra: 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2 (Maraka) may > > > > > cause > > > > > > a > > > > > > > miserable life during its Dasa. Another reason for the > > > failure > > > > > in > > > > > > > further higher study mi be due to a lack of 11th > > > signification > > > > > by > > > > > > > the 9th Sbl Ke and another lack of 9, 11th signification by > > > > the > > > > > > > 11th Sbl Me. But 12th Sbl Mo+ signifies both bad houses 5-12+ > > > > > (bad > > > > > > > luck, loss of money , cheated) and good houses 6-11 (good > > > > luck) > > > > > > and > > > > > > > most importantly does not signify 8, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2 > > > > > > > (Maraka). And the life is expected to be much better and > > > > stable > > > > > in > > > > > > > the Ju Dasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. The marriage is promised and more than one is indicated. > > > > Love > > > > > > > marriage is found. Delay and obstacles in marriage are > > > > indicated > > > > > > by > > > > > > > Punarphoo (although cancelled by Dr. Kar's theory); Sa's > > > > > > occupation > > > > > > > of the 5th house aspecting 7, 11, 2 houses; connection of > > > > 2,4,7, > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > by the same Sbl Sa (here 8th is disappointment, and 4th is 12 > > > > to > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > of love affairs) and Ra in 7th house. (Mars Dosha is > > > cancelled > > > > > and > > > > > > > it has been found not working in KP by 2 studies of the > > > > hundreds > > > > > > AA > > > > > > > charts.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9. As a KP learner, hit or miss prediction is that job > > > > > betterment > > > > > > > can be expected in the current running Ra-Ve dasa, marriage > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > Ra-Su dasa perhaps with difficulties and better life in the > > > > > coming > > > > > > > Ju dasa with a possibility of foreign job.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " <kdsips@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Mr Tin Win for such detailed reply.For the benefit > > > of > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > members I would requsets veterans to kindly share there > > > > > comments > > > > > > > > regarding the same. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > kds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (3) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. CHART DATA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla, 03-07-1977, 00:05 AM, Chandigarh (UT), > > > > > 30N42, > > > > > > > > > 76E48, New KP Ayanamsa 23-27-10, Asc Pi 15-40-22, Sun > > > Dasa > > > > > Bal > > > > > > > 0Y- > > > > > > > > 0M- > > > > > > > > > 0D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. PAST EVENTS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Ra-Ra-Sa: July 1995, got admission in very reputed > > > engg > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > 2) Ra-Ju-Ra: June1999, managed to clear engineering with > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra-Sa to Ra-Me-Me: appeared in IAS 3 times till July > > > > 2002 > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > couldn't clear it > > > > > > > > > 4) Ra-Me-Me: august 2002 to DEC 2003, worked in an IAS > > > > > > coaching > > > > > > > > > institute in > > > > > > > > > partnership with his teacher > > > > > > > > > 5) Ra-Me-Ra: Dec 2003, his partner cheated with him and > > > > had > > > > > to > > > > > > > opt > > > > > > > > > out of this institute > > > > > > > > > 6) Ra-Me-Ju: from Dec 2003 to April 2004, under huge > > > > > > depression, > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > idle and sitting in home > > > > > > > > > 7) Ra-Me-Ra to Ra-Me-Ju: April 2004, got a (paper) > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > proposal > > > > > > > > > from a daughter of IAS officer who was doing masters in > > > > > Canada > > > > > > > > > 8) Ra-Ke-Ve: February 2005, got a marriage proposal from > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > girl from Canada > > > > > > > > > 9) Ra-Ke-Ve: march 2005, got the job in Airtel and worked > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > august 2005 > > > > > > > > > 10) Ra-Ke-Ju: august 15th 2005, left for USA and joined > > > > > > college > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > august 2005, however couldn't study there, stayed in USA > > > > for > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > > months and couldn't study at all > > > > > > > > > 11) Ra-Ve-Su: august 30th 2006, got divorce from the > > > first > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > > 12) Ra-Ve-Ma: January 2007, decided to come back to > > > India, > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > second girl didn't like this and broke off from the native > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today the native is on high dose of Anti depression > > > > > > drugs. > > > > > > > At > > > > > > > > > present he is doing job in Airtel again with salary of > > > > only > > > > > > > > Rs10000/. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. DASA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra: 03-07-1994 to 03-07-2012 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ra: 03-07-1994 to 14-03-1997 > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ju: 15-03-1997 to 08-08-1999 > > > > > > > > > Ra-Sa: 09-08-1999 to 14-06-2002 > > > > > > > > > Ra-Me:15-06- 2002 to 31-12-2004 > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ke: 01-01-2005 to 20-01-2006 > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ve: 21-01-2006 to 20-01-2009 > > > > > > > > > Ra-Su: 21-01-2009 to 14-12-2009 > > > > > > > > > Ra-Mo: 15-12-2009 to 14-06-2011 > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ma: 15-06-2011 to 03-07-2012 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju: 04-07-2012 to 03-07-2028 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Empty houses: 6, 8, 9, 10, 12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Sa, Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets in own stars (*): Nil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra is aspected by Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa aspects 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10) > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Ju: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ve: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ve is Ju: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Su: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma(2-9); Asp by Ju > > > > (3- > > > > > > 10) > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Ve: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Mo+: 11 > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Mo is Ve: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ma: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ve: 2-8 > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > Planet Ra: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ra is Ju: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ju: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Ju: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Sa+: 5-12; Asp 2 > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Sa is Su: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma(2-9); Asp by Ju > > > > (3- > > > > > > 10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Me: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ju: 3-10 > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Me is Ju: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. QUESTIONS TO 4 STEP PRACTITIONERS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Why did such setbacks happen in the already passed > > > part > > > > > of > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > Maha dasa, which primarily signifies only 2-9 houses? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) How about the future prospects in the rest of Ra dasa > > > > in > > > > > > > respect > > > > > > > > > of marriage, carrier and finance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) How can be differentiated the results in the coming Ju > > > > > dasa > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > compared to the present running Ju dasa since their > > > > primary > > > > > > > > > significators are exactly the same, i.e. only 2-9 houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. REQUEST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the benefit of all members of this Group, kindly > > > > sharing > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > expertise that has been taught and learned is humbly > > > > > requested > > > > > > > (not > > > > > > > > > free prediction which your Guruji didn't allow) by > > > > providing > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > necessary calculated data as above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tin Win > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " <kdsips@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks once again for your reply.Can you share > > > something > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > career as right now I am in huge career crisis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not disclose how I do analysis. My 2 cents > > > advice > > > > > to > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > that don't get married in rahu mahadasha. You will > > > see > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > in the remaining period of rahu mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter period will be the best period in your life > > > in > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Group members and Mr singh, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply... > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually I am new to kp astrology.Can you elaborate > > > > > how > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > virgo is badhak ,as far as marak is concerned I > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th house in marak. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also please shed some light on the fact why > > > marraige > > > > > > > > > > > unconventional > > > > > > > > > > > > marraige(I mean to say marriage only on papers and > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > consumation) > > > > > > > > > > > > took place in rahu-mer, and why it broke of in rah- > > > > > > > venus.I > > > > > > > > > > mean > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > say what is the role of venus bhukti in rahu maha > > > > > dasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Why my second engagement took off after 2.5 > > > years > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > sustenence ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) When will my career get settled, will it be in > > > > > > busines > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > job? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) why i had to leave my masters degree in b/w and > > > > had > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > > > back > > > > > > > > > > > > to india in jan 2007, i mean to say why I couldnt > > > > > achive > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > distinction in studies during the whole rahu > > > > dasha???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are pisces ascendant. In your chart Rahu is > > > in > > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > Virgo sign in a worst placement because 7th house > > > > > for > > > > > > > > pisces > > > > > > > > > > > > > ascendant is both Badhaka and Maraka house. So > > > > Rahu > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > acting > > > > > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > > > > > > badhaka and maraka planet for you. Also Rahu is > > > > > > aspected > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of Jupiter on Rahu is very good so > > > your > > > > > > Rahu- > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > period from March 1997 to August 1999 must be > > > good > > > > > if > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > that time were favorable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of 12th lord Saturn on Rahu is very > > > > bad, > > > > > so > > > > > > > Rahu- > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > > period from august 1999 to June 2002 must be very > > > > > bad > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > > > > at that time were also unfavorable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also the 6th lord sun is in the nakshatra of > > > rahu, > > > > > so > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > > > you 6th house results during Rahu-Sun period in > > > > > 2009, > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > health > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems or debts or separation in marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should not get married during rahu dasa > > > again. > > > > > > Your > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > improve during Jupiter mahadasha after july 2012. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Guruji ji and other group members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My name is khushdev ,I have joined this group > > > > > > > recently.I > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > kp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system of astrology.I am in deep menatl pain , > > > > and > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > requset > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all to help me out of tis pain .My history is > > > > > > attached > > > > > > > > > > > below.Pls > > > > > > > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me out of this agony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name-Khushdev singla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth date- 03 july 1977 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time-00.05 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > place- chandigarh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 History > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am have been running the rahu dasha from mid > > > > > 1994 > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having trouble in acedemics and career > > > > settlement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In july 1995 I got admission in very reputed > > > > engg > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > electrical stream.At that time I was suffering > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > depression > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was put on depression pills by psychiatric. > > > > Though > > > > > I > > > > > > > GOT > > > > > > > > > > > > ADMISSION , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I couldnt perform acedamically good .I used > > > > to > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression and was unable to study at all.I > > > > > somehow > > > > > > > > > managed > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > clear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my engineering with much difficulty in > > > > June1999.I > > > > > > > opted > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a job because i wanted to prepare for IAS > > > > > > exams.At > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > antardasha of saturn started , I put myself > > > > wholly > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > exam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > putting all my career at stake.I appread in IAS > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > > > > > july > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 but couldnt clear it , to my surprise the > > > > > > people > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting less marks than me in mock tests got > > > > > > > selected.My > > > > > > > > > > > failure > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a shock for me ,I opted to teach in an IAS > > > > > coaching > > > > > > > > > > institute > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > partnership with my teacher.I worked there from > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > 2002 > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > dec > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2003.In dec 2003 my partner cheated with me and > > > > I > > > > > > have > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > opt > > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this institute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was job less and all my dreams were > > > > shattered,I > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > > huge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression from dec 2003 to april 2004.During > > > > this > > > > > > > time I > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > idle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and was sitting in home.I even had feeling of > > > > > > > suicideTo > > > > > > > > > let > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my anti depression pilss were still continuing > > > > > since > > > > > > > 1994. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In april 2004 out of sudden I got a marriage > > > > > > proposal > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > daughter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of IAS officer who was doing masters in > > > > canada.She > > > > > > was > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > india > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > few days and wanted to get married to a guy in > > > > > > > india.We > > > > > > > > > > decided > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for paper marriage and did entered into > > > physical > > > > > > > relation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We made a resolution that we will enetr into > > > > > > physical > > > > > > > > > > relation > > > > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three months and will get formal ceremony done > > > > at > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only.Meanwhile our plans were i will take > > > > > admission > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will do MTech from there.The girl left for > > > > canada > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months she decided to discontinue this > > > > > > relation.Since > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > paper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marriage so we had to take a formal divorce. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile I got a marriage proposal from some > > > > > other > > > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in feburary 2005.We got engaged I told her > > > about > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > prevous > > > > > > > > > > > > > marraige > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so decided not to get married till my first > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > annulled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was selected by a university in USA to do > > > > MTech > > > > > > and > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > join > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from july 2005.Meanwhile I got the job in > > > Airtel > > > > > in > > > > > > > march > > > > > > > > > > > 2005.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worked for Airtel till august 2005.I left for > > > > USA > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > > 15th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005.The second girl was so nice she cooperated > > > > > with > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > waited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for me so that my divorce is cleared.I joined > > > > > > college > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However i couldnt study there ,I stayed in usa > > > > for > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > > months > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldnt study at all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On august 30th 2006 I got divorce from the > > > first > > > > > > > girl.By > > > > > > > > > > > january > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I decided to come back to India .The second > > > girl > > > > > > didnt > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > this , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she broke off from me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today I am on high dose of Anti depression > > > > > drugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My questions are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Career > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At present I am doing job in Airtel again with > > > > > > salary > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rs10000/.I sometimes feel misearble that after > > > > so > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > study > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and doing BTech from reputed college > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and even going to USA for higher study why I am > > > > so > > > > > > > lowly > > > > > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terms of career. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you see in future for my career. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should I do business or job , will I be able to > > > > > rise > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > heights > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > career > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Marriage when will I get married.How will be > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > married > > > > > > > > > > > > life, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will my partner be from high status family or > > > > > not.I > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good proposals for marriage at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 Financial status how will be my financial > > > > > > > status.Some > > > > > > > > > > vedic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology pandits say that after 2012 in my > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > dasha > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rise like anything in career as it will be a > > > > dasha > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > lagnesh > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dashmesh.Is this true??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls help me out. > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Dear Tw ji, Instead of digging into old emails and searching for points related to particular method, why can't we stop blaming and move on? Now as we have a definition for stellar methods, why can't all those methods live together? Quoting some sentence from an old email wihout the context presents incorrect meaning. I don't know what is the intention here but for it is not conductive for the learning for sure. It is not expected from a senior member like you. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 8:28 AM, tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Punit Pandey ji,If this is your thinking without any particular reason, I've nothing to say. Regarding discussion, are allowed for that purpose. Thanks and regards,tw , " Punit Pandey " <punitp wrote: > > Dear Tw ji,> > This is what I think. I think that 4-step is a good enough method and> deserve discussion and critical analysis in this forum. That is the> reason that we always remained open for the discussion on 4-step. > > Because you have quoted it amidst of KP / Non-KP discussion, it is important> to clarify that " comparative good " has nothing to do with the comparison> with KP. This is comparison with generally available astrological system and> should be taken in that context.> > I hope it answers your question.> > > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:59 PM, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> > > Dear Moderator Punit Pandey ji,> >> > Could you kindly elaborate why " 4 Step method is comparatively good " as> > you said below for the benefit of members and in order to move ahead from> > the prolonged Q & A stage of 4 step basic principles, which is already> > posted in the file section of this group under > >> > *A NOTE ON FOUR STEP THEORY.doc*<http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/QKPjRwcgEXqlcBWctdNQn-D6sDjG_T9vVCByUzxoeKIuwgwp7-o8DecWg1il1EGOmngy5oiIYWnHMTa- YX1jboUZEw/A%20NOTE%20ON%20FOUR%20STEP%20THEORY.doc> > > * *> > A STUDY NOTE ON FOUR STEP THEORY .> >> > Thanks and regards,> >> > tw> >> >> > >> > > > , " Punit Pandey " <punitp@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Lajmi ji, Tw ji, Sunil ji and members, > > >> > > I expect that all of us will maintain the decorum of the forum and> > > will focus on learning, NOT on proving or disproving something.> > >> > > All members involved here are senior members and I request everybody> > > to set example for other members.> > >> > > 4 Step method is comparatively good and it is good to have a critical> > > analysis in an open forum. I am watching this thread very closely and> > > it seems that we have enough discussion. It is advised not to take it> > > further because it seems that we are deviating from the intention of> > > learning. > > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > >> > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@ > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear tw,> > > > What you've written is undiluted rubbish...it> > > thoroughly reveals your " paediatric mindset " > > > > ...and,in any case,this kind of paediatric game of " baiting " will> > > not provoke me,Tin Win...try somewhere else ...Have you read Eric> > > Berne's very famous book... " Games people play " ? If not ,pl. do,and I> > > assure you,after perusing it you could discover yourself and also> > > exactly " what makes you tick " and hopefully,you will stop playing> > > such paediatric games... > > > > Shortcut methods,and " instant learning " is popular in> > > the US and abroad,it seems...with the help of a few examples which> > > suit their preconceived ideas,they will pronounce an " axiom " ,as it> > > were...only to sheepishly regret it sooner than later... !> > > > We in India,do not to such " instant> > > research " ...> > > > Practice K.P., and LEARN K.P., by practical > > > experience...instead of seeking instant knowledge...> > > > With best wishes,> > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > tw853 tw853@> > > > > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 6:36:54 PM > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP PRACTICAL> > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER> > > >> > > > Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,> > > > > > > > It seems you don't know how to apply what you're saying practically> > > > in the life examples. You can say on yourself for the sake of> > > saying> > > > only. > > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > tw> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > <lyrastro1@ ..>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear tw853,> > > > > Words and words...? Ha Ha Ha...Cannot be> > > > helped,if people refuse to understand and argue for arguments'> > > > sake...> > > > > A question which I had asked you earlier,and> > > > went unanswered is being repeated...Just what are you trying to> > > > prove ? > > > > > If you are keen to impress people that you have> > > > more than enough knowledge of K.P., just because you have already> > > > read various well-known books written by learned > > > K.P.stalwarts. ...I> > > > am not impressed...> > > > > Because, proper application and knowledge are> > > > two entirely different entities...> > > > > I have analysed and posted my analyses of very > > > > many Charts both,Horary and Natal...on many a forum...and I do not> > > > need any certificate from you...Simply because you said you are a> > > > beginner,I was just trying to help you learn K.P., better...from> > > > your mail it appears that you already kmow K.P., as much as> > > > a 'Pundit' should...> > > > > The best way to learn K.P., is to " do it > > > > yourself,if you make mistakes,> > > > > never mind,learn from them...> > > > > With best wishes,> > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 5:36:54 AM > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP PRACTICAL> > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER> > > > >> > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao,> > > > > > > > > > Why words and words again and never ever presenting something> > > > > practically?> > > > >> > > > > If you know somehting about those matters as your saying, why> > > > don't> > > > > you show with this practical live example chart for the benefits> > > > of> > > > > KP learners?> > > > > > > > > > You will understand my analysis if you read the books of> > > > Shanmugam,> > > > > Bhatt , K. Subramanium and K. Hariharan in respect of health and> > > > > miserable life. > > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > Tin Win> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear TW,> > > > > > I truly admire you for deftly trying to put the > > > > > ball back into my court...!> > > > > > As a matter of fact,if ,as you claim,you are a> > > > > learner...it will certainly be a very good exercise for you to> > > > find> > > > > out which houses the s/l of the Ascendant signifies ...(even if> > > > you> > > > > need to take the help of books...) > > > > > > It will firstly, help you to determine the level of> > > > > the horoscope,and secondly to especially enable you to assess as> > > > to> > > > > what percentage of the benefits promised by a planet,the person> > > is> > > > > actually destined to enjoy...during it's> > > > > Dasa/Bhukti/ Antara/sookshma. ..etc.> > > > > > For example,if is exalted and signifies II & > > > > > XI...and in a favourable sub...will such a person gain a huge> > > > amount> > > > > of wealth ? If not to what extent...High, Middle,Low or the> > > Lowest > > > > > level...etc. ! Only K.P. can help you reveal this...and so on...> > > > > > And, for example,if it signifies I,V,IX and X along> > > > > with III & VIII,a long life is promised...if it signifies Badhaka> > > > > and Maraka Houses...a short life is seen...while if the s/l of I> > > > > signifies VI...one will be sickly...the sickness will begin or> > > > > worsen during the conjoint periods of the significators of I & > > > > > VI...and so on...> > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant gives a fair idea of the> > > > > general health of a person ...its not being a significator of> > > > houses> > > > > VI,VIII & XII ,shows GOOD health generally ... and so on...> > > > > > It is very important to first analyse the Lagna> > > > > thoroughly of any horoscope presented for analysis...as per our> > > > > revered Guruji KSK...> > > > > > I fervently hope you are doing this exercise with> > > > > every Birth Chart presented to you for your perusal and > > > analysis...> > > > > > Therefore Tin Winji,I am looking forward to your> > > > > analyses...> > > > > > Wishing you the very best...> > > > > > With kind regards, > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 8:13:02 PM > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP PRACTICAL> > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao, > > > > > >> > > > > > 1. Could you kindly present your analysis of the s/l of the> > > > > > Ascendant in depth for the benefits of all members of this > > > Group> > > > > to> > > > > > discuss and learn something.> > > > > >> > > > > > 2. I've done my part as a KP learner and now I request you as a> > > > KP> > > > > > Senior to do your part.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > tw > > > > > >> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi> > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..>> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear TW,> > > > > > > Excellent analysis indeed, but could you pl.analyse> > > > > > the s/l of the Ascendant in depth ? It should normally confirm> > > > > your> > > > > > readings as being on the right track...> > > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant,assuming that the TOB is> > > > > > the exact one,that is...should indicate or atleast confirm all> > > > > your> > > > > > findings...> > > > > > > What are your findings in this regard ?> > > > > > > It will be interesting to know...could you pl. > > > > > > throw some light on this ?> > > > > > > Thanking you in advance please...> > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 10:38:16 AM> > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP PRACTICAL> > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > >> > > > > > > DEPRESSION> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1. 6th Sbl is Ra.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 2. (Maha) Dasa lord Ra: 7; Asp Ju(3-1-10): Asp Sa+(5- 11-12 & > > > > +2-> > > > > 4-> > > > > > 7-> > > > > > > 8); Stl Ma(2-9); Sgl Me(4-7) (Note: No planet is in the star> > > > of > > > > > > Sa,> > > > > > > which is the Sbl of 2,4,7,8.) Ra is in the sub of Ju(3-1-10)> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 3. The occupation of 6th Sbl Ra in 7th and its connection> > > with> > > > 3> > > > > > > (mental stability), 5 (intelligence, mental stability) and 9> > > > > > (higher> > > > > > > mind) may cause mental aberration. (K. Subramaniam) The other> > > > > > > possible causes to depression are Asc (head) Conj Ke(7)> > > (Note:> > > > > No> > > > > > > planet is in the star of Ke, which is the Sbl of 9 sending> > > the> > > > > > > native to USA in its Bhukti.); Mo (emotional mind) Aspt by Sa> > > > > > > (depression, miseries, 7-2-8-12); Me (intelligent mind) Conj> > > Su> > > > > (7-> > > > > > 2-> > > > > > > 6-8-12; 5th occupied by Sa, Ar (first rasi sign as head) Asp> > > > by > > > > > Sa> > > > > > > and occupied by Ma(2-8); 6th Sbl Ra:8-12; 8th Sbl Sa+:8-12.> > > > and> > > > > > > 12th Sbl Mo+: 6-12+. (Note: No planet is in the star of Mo,> > > > > which> > > > > > is> > > > > > > the Sbl of 12.)> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 4. Ra's signification of 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2 > > > > (Maraka)> > > > > > is> > > > > > > unfavorable for health. The repeated signification of 4th,> > > > i.e.> > > > > 12 > > > > > > > to 5th, is also no good for mental stability.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 5. However, there are the relieving factors such as: no> > > > support > > > > > of> > > > > > > Ra's Sbl; Ra can not give it occupational result of 7th since> > > > Su> > > > > > is> > > > > > > in its star. Ju's aspect (to Ra) alone is the exception to> > > > > relieve> > > > > > > the adverse effects of Badhaka. (Sri Shanmugam); Asc lord Ju> > > > Asp> > > > > > > 9th and Mo; Asc Sbl Ju: 2-3-9-1-10 in its own sub; 6th Sbl Ra> > > > > > > signifies also 1-5-11, 8th Sbl Sa+ signifies also 5-11 and> > > > 12th> > > > > > Sbl> > > > > > > Mo+ signifies also 11-5. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 6. From the above, the depression is expected to be gone> > > after> > > > > Ra> > > > > > > Dasa and no more in the coming Ju (Maha) Dasa since Ju: 2-3-9-> > > > 1-> > > > > 10> > > > > > > in its own sub.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > SETBACKS IN LIFE> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. Dasa lord Ra: 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2 (Maraka) may> > > > > cause> > > > > > a> > > > > > > miserable life during its Dasa. Another reason for the > > > failure> > > > > in> > > > > > > further higher study mi be due to a lack of 11th> > > signification> > > > > by> > > > > > > the 9th Sbl Ke and another lack of 9, 11th signification by> > > > the> > > > > > > 11th Sbl Me. But 12th Sbl Mo+ signifies both bad houses 5-12+> > > > > (bad> > > > > > > luck, loss of money , cheated) and good houses 6-11 (good> > > > luck)> > > > > > and> > > > > > > most importantly does not signify 8, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2> > > > > > > (Maraka). And the life is expected to be much better and> > > > stable> > > > > in> > > > > > > the Ju Dasa.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 8. The marriage is promised and more than one is indicated.> > > > Love> > > > > > > marriage is found. Delay and obstacles in marriage are> > > > indicated> > > > > > by> > > > > > > Punarphoo (although cancelled by Dr. Kar's theory); Sa's> > > > > > occupation> > > > > > > of the 5th house aspecting 7, 11, 2 houses; connection of> > > > 2,4,7,> > > > > 8> > > > > > > by the same Sbl Sa (here 8th is disappointment, and 4th is 12> > > > to> > > > > > 5th> > > > > > > of love affairs) and Ra in 7th house. (Mars Dosha is> > > cancelled> > > > > and > > > > > > > it has been found not working in KP by 2 studies of the> > > > hundreds> > > > > > AA> > > > > > > charts.)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9. As a KP learner, hit or miss prediction is that job> > > > > betterment> > > > > > > can be expected in the current running Ra-Ve dasa, marriage> > > in> > > > > the> > > > > > > Ra-Su dasa perhaps with difficulties and better life in the> > > > > coming> > > > > > > Ju dasa with a possibility of foreign job.. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Good luck!> > > > > > >> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " <kdsips@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks Mr Tin Win for such detailed reply.For the benefit> > > of> > > > > > group> > > > > > > > members I would requsets veterans to kindly share there> > > > > comments> > > > > > > > regarding the same.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > kds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (3) > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1. CHART DATA> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla, 03-07-1977, 00:05 AM, Chandigarh (UT),> > > > > 30N42,> > > > > > > > > 76E48, New KP Ayanamsa 23-27-10, Asc Pi 15-40-22, Sun> > > Dasa> > > > > Bal> > > > > > > 0Y- > > > > > > > > 0M-> > > > > > > > > 0D> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 2. PAST EVENTS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Ra-Ra-Sa: July 1995, got admission in very reputed> > > engg> > > > > > > college> > > > > > > > > 2) Ra-Ju-Ra: June1999, managed to clear engineering with> > > > > much> > > > > > > > > difficulty> > > > > > > > > 3) Ra-Sa to Ra-Me-Me: appeared in IAS 3 times till July> > > > 2002 > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > couldn't clear it> > > > > > > > > 4) Ra-Me-Me: august 2002 to DEC 2003, worked in an IAS> > > > > > coaching > > > > > > > > > institute in> > > > > > > > > partnership with his teacher> > > > > > > > > 5) Ra-Me-Ra: Dec 2003, his partner cheated with him and> > > > had> > > > > to> > > > > > > opt> > > > > > > > > out of this institute> > > > > > > > > 6) Ra-Me-Ju: from Dec 2003 to April 2004, under huge> > > > > > depression,> > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > idle and sitting in home> > > > > > > > > 7) Ra-Me-Ra to Ra-Me-Ju: April 2004, got a (paper) > > > > marriage> > > > > > > > proposal> > > > > > > > > from a daughter of IAS officer who was doing masters in> > > > > Canada > > > > > > > > > 8) Ra-Ke-Ve: February 2005, got a marriage proposal from> > > > > > another> > > > > > > > > girl from Canada> > > > > > > > > 9) Ra-Ke-Ve: march 2005, got the job in Airtel and worked> > > > > > there> > > > > > > > till> > > > > > > > > august 2005> > > > > > > > > 10) Ra-Ke-Ju: august 15th 2005, left for USA and joined> > > > > > college> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > august 2005, however couldn't study there, stayed in USA> > > > for > > > > > > 18> > > > > > > > > months and couldn't study at all> > > > > > > > > 11) Ra-Ve-Su: august 30th 2006, got divorce from the > > > first> > > > > girl> > > > > > > > > 12) Ra-Ve-Ma: January 2007, decided to come back to> > > India,> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > second girl didn't like this and broke off from the native> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Till today the native is on high dose of Anti depression> > > > > > drugs.> > > > > > > At > > > > > > > > > present he is doing job in Airtel again with salary of> > > > only> > > > > > > > Rs10000/.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. DASA> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Ra: 03-07-1994 to 03-07-2012> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ra: 03-07-1994 to 14-03-1997> > > > > > > > > Ra-Ju: 15-03-1997 to 08-08-1999> > > > > > > > > Ra-Sa: 09-08-1999 to 14-06-2002 > > > > > > > > > Ra-Me:15-06- 2002 to 31-12-2004> > > > > > > > > Ra-Ke: 01-01-2005 to 20-01-2006> > > > > > > > > Ra-Ve: 21-01-2006 to 20-01-2009 > > > > > > > > > Ra-Su: 21-01-2009 to 14-12-2009> > > > > > > > > Ra-Mo: 15-12-2009 to 14-06-2011> > > > > > > > > Ra-Ma: 15-06-2011 to 03-07-2012 > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Ju: 04-07-2012 to 03-07-2028> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Empty houses: 6, 8, 9, 10, 12> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Sa, Ke> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Planets in own stars (*): Nil > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Ra is aspected by Ju> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Sa aspects 2 > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Planet Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10)> > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4> > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Ju: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Planet Ve:> > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ve is Ju:> > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Planet Su: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma(2-9); Asp by Ju> > > > (3-> > > > > > 10)> > > > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Ve: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Planet Mo+: 11> > > > > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Mo is Ve:> > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Planet Ma: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ve: 2-8> > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > Planet Ra:> > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ra is Ju:> > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Planet Ju:> > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Ju: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Planet Sa+: 5-12; Asp 2> > > > > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Sa is Su:> > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma(2-9); Asp by Ju> > > > (3-> > > > > > 10) > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Planet Me:> > > > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ju: 3-10> > > > > > > > > Sublord of Me is Ju: > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 5. QUESTIONS TO 4 STEP PRACTITIONERS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Why did such setbacks happen in the already passed> > > part> > > > > of> > > > > > Ra> > > > > > > > > Maha dasa, which primarily signifies only 2-9 houses?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 2) How about the future prospects in the rest of Ra dasa> > > > in> > > > > > > respect > > > > > > > > > of marriage, carrier and finance?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 3) How can be differentiated the results in the coming Ju> > > > > dasa> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > compared to the present running Ju dasa since their> > > > primary> > > > > > > > > significators are exactly the same, i.e. only 2-9 houses.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 6. REQUEST> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > For the benefit of all members of this Group, kindly> > > > sharing> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > your> > > > > > > > > expertise that has been taught and learned is humbly > > > > > requested> > > > > > > (not> > > > > > > > > free prediction which your Guruji didn't allow) by> > > > providing> > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > necessary calculated data as above.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tin Win> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " <kdsips@>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > thanks once again for your reply.Can you share> > > something> > > > > > more> > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > career as right now I am in huge career crisis.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ >> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I do not disclose how I do analysis. My 2 cents > > > advice> > > > > to> > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > that don't get married in rahu mahadasha. You will> > > see> > > > > > more> > > > > > > > > > problems> > > > > > > > > > > in the remaining period of rahu mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter period will be the best period in your life> > > in> > > > > > every > > > > > > > > way.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Group members and Mr singh,> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply... > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually I am new to kp astrology.Can you elaborate> > > > > how> > > > > > > rahu> > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > virgo is badhak ,as far as marak is concerned I> > > > > > understand> > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th house in marak.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Also please shed some light on the fact why > > > marraige> > > > > > > > > > > unconventional> > > > > > > > > > > > marraige(I mean to say marriage only on papers and> > > > not > > > > > > > > > > consumation)> > > > > > > > > > > > took place in rahu-mer, and why it broke of in rah-> > > > > > > venus.I > > > > > > > > > > mean> > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > say what is the role of venus bhukti in rahu maha> > > > > dasha.> > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Why my second engagement took off after 2.5> > > years> > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > sustenence ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) When will my career get settled, will it be in> > > > > > busines> > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > job? > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 4) why i had to leave my masters degree in b/w and> > > > had> > > > > > to > > > > > > > > came> > > > > > > > > > back> > > > > > > > > > > > to india in jan 2007, i mean to say why I couldnt > > > > > achive> > > > > > > any> > > > > > > > > > > > distinction in studies during the whole rahu> > > > dasha????> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ >> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > You are pisces ascendant. In your chart Rahu is> > > in> > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > Virgo sign in a worst placement because 7th house> > > > > for> > > > > > > > pisces> > > > > > > > > > > > > ascendant is both Badhaka and Maraka house. So> > > > Rahu > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > acting> > > > > > > > > > > both> > > > > > > > > > > > > badhaka and maraka planet for you. Also Rahu is> > > > > > aspected> > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter,> > > > > > > > > > > > > and Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of Jupiter on Rahu is very good so> > > your> > > > > > Rahu- > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter> > > > > > > > > > > > > period from March 1997 to August 1999 must be> > > good> > > > > if > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > transits> > > > > > > > > > > > at> > > > > > > > > > > > > that time were favorable. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of 12th lord Saturn on Rahu is very> > > > bad,> > > > > so > > > > > > > Rahu-> > > > > > > > > > > Saturn> > > > > > > > > > > > > period from august 1999 to June 2002 must be very > > > > > bad> > > > > > if> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > transits> > > > > > > > > > > > > at that time were also unfavorable. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Also the 6th lord sun is in the nakshatra of> > > rahu,> > > > > so > > > > > > > rahu> > > > > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > > > > give> > > > > > > > > > > > > you 6th house results during Rahu-Sun period in> > > > > 2009,> > > > > > > like> > > > > > > > > > health> > > > > > > > > > > > > problems or debts or separation in marriage.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > You should not get married during rahu dasa> > > again.> > > > > > Your > > > > > > > > life> > > > > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > > > > > improve during Jupiter mahadasha after july 2012. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > <kdsips@>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Guruji ji and other group members,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > My name is khushdev ,I have joined this group> > > > > > > recently.I> > > > > > > > > am> > > > > > > > > > new> > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > kp> > > > > > > > > > > > > > system of astrology.I am in deep menatl pain ,> > > > and > > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > > requset> > > > > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > > > > all to help me out of tis pain .My history is> > > > > > attached> > > > > > > > > > > below.Pls> > > > > > > > > > > > > help> > > > > > > > > > > > > > me out of this agony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name-Khushdev singla> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth date- 03 july 1977 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time-00.05 am> > > > > > > > > > > > > > place- chandigarh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 History> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am have been running the rahu dasha from mid> > > > > 1994 > > > > > > > since> > > > > > > > > > then> > > > > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having trouble in acedemics and career> > > > settlement.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In july 1995 I got admission in very reputed> > > > engg> > > > > > > college> > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > electrical stream.At that time I was suffering> > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > depression> > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > was put on depression pills by psychiatric.> > > > Though> > > > > I> > > > > > > GOT> > > > > > > > > > > > ADMISSION ,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I couldnt perform acedamically good .I used> > > > to> > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > under> > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression and was unable to study at all.I> > > > > somehow> > > > > > > > > managed> > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > clear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my engineering with much difficulty in> > > > June1999.I> > > > > > > opted> > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > go> > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a job because i wanted to prepare for IAS> > > > > > exams.At> > > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > > time> > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > antardasha of saturn started , I put myself> > > > wholly> > > > > > > into> > > > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > exam> > > > > > > > > > > > > > putting all my career at stake.I appread in IAS> > > > > > three > > > > > > > > time> > > > > > > > > > till> > > > > > > > > > > > > july> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 but couldnt clear it , to my surprise the> > > > > > people> > > > > > > who> > > > > > > > > > were> > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting less marks than me in mock tests got> > > > > > > selected.My> > > > > > > > > > > failure> > > > > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a shock for me ,I opted to teach in an IAS> > > > > coaching> > > > > > > > > > institute> > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > partnership with my teacher.I worked there from> > > > > > august> > > > > > > > > 2002> > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > dec > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2003.In dec 2003 my partner cheated with me and> > > > I> > > > > > have> > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > opt> > > > > > > > > > > > out> > > > > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this institute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was job less and all my dreams were> > > > shattered,I> > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > > huge> > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression from dec 2003 to april 2004.During> > > > this> > > > > > > time I > > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > idle> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and was sitting in home.I even had feeling of> > > > > > > suicideTo> > > > > > > > > let> > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my anti depression pilss were still continuing> > > > > since> > > > > > > 1994.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In april 2004 out of sudden I got a marriage> > > > > > proposal> > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > > > > daughter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of IAS officer who was doing masters in> > > > canada.She> > > > > > was> > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > india> > > > > > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > > > > > few days and wanted to get married to a guy in> > > > > > > india.We> > > > > > > > > > decided> > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for paper marriage and did entered into> > > physical> > > > > > > relation> > > > > > > > > > > > > > We made a resolution that we will enetr into> > > > > > physical> > > > > > > > > > relation> > > > > > > > > > > > > after> > > > > > > > > > > > > > three months and will get formal ceremony done> > > > at> > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > time> > > > > > > > > > > > > > only.Meanwhile our plans were i will take > > > > > admission> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > canada> > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will do MTech from there.The girl left for> > > > canada> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > after> > > > > > > > > > > > three> > > > > > > > > > > > > > months she decided to discontinue this > > > > > > relation.Since> > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > > > > paper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marriage so we had to take a formal divorce.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile I got a marriage proposal from some> > > > > other> > > > > > > girl> > > > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > > > > canada> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in feburary 2005.We got engaged I told her> > > about> > > > > my> > > > > > > > > prevous> > > > > > > > > > > > > marraige> > > > > > > > > > > > > > so decided not to get married till my first> > > > > marriage> > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > annulled.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was selected by a university in USA to do> > > > MTech> > > > > > and> > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > join > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from july 2005.Meanwhile I got the job in> > > Airtel> > > > > in> > > > > > > march> > > > > > > > > > > 2005.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worked for Airtel till august 2005.I left for> > > > USA> > > > > on> > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > > 15th> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005.The second girl was so nice she cooperated> > > > > with > > > > > > > me> > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > waited> > > > > > > > > > > > > > for me so that my divorce is cleared.I joined> > > > > > college> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > august> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However i couldnt study there ,I stayed in usa> > > > for> > > > > > 18> > > > > > > > > months > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldnt study at all> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On august 30th 2006 I got divorce from the> > > first> > > > > > > girl.By> > > > > > > > > > > january> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2007> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I decided to come back to India .The second> > > girl> > > > > > didnt> > > > > > > > > like> > > > > > > > > > > > this ,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > she broke off from me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today I am on high dose of Anti depression> > > > > drugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > My questions are> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Career > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At present I am doing job in Airtel again with> > > > > > salary> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rs10000/.I sometimes feel misearble that after> > > > so> > > > > > much> > > > > > > > > study > > > > > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > > > > IAS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and doing BTech from reputed college > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and even going to USA for higher study why I am> > > > so> > > > > > > lowly> > > > > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > terms of career.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you see in future for my career. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should I do business or job , will I be able to> > > > > rise> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > heights > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > my> > > > > > > > > > > > > > career> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Marriage when will I get married.How will be> > > > my > > > > > > > > > > married> > > > > > > > > > > > life,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will my partner be from high status family or> > > > > not.I> > > > > > am> > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > getting> > > > > > > > > > > > > > good proposals for marriage at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 Financial status how will be my financial> > > > > > > status.Some> > > > > > > > > > vedic> > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology pandits say that after 2012 in my> > > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > dasha> > > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rise like anything in career as it will be a> > > > dasha> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > lagnesh> > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dashmesh.Is this true??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls help me out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 09876154877 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Dear Punit Pandey ji, I've already told you I've nothing to say in this regard. If you asy so, who thouroughly studied this 4 step method and expalined clearly in this forum at one place for the learning for sure? Who did give a compilation of mesages to learn it? It is the same not expected from a moderator like you. Thanks and regards, tw , " Punit Pandey " <punitp wrote: > > Dear Tw ji, > > Instead of digging into old emails and searching for points related to > particular method, why can't we stop blaming and move on? Now as we have a > definition for stellar methods, why can't all those methods live together? > Quoting some sentence from an old email wihout the context presents > incorrect meaning. I don't know what is the intention here but for it is not > conductive for the learning for sure. It is not expected from a senior > member like you. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 8:28 AM, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji, > > > > If this is your thinking without any particular reason, I've nothing > > to say. Regarding discussion, are allowed for that > > purpose. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > <% 40>, " Punit > > Pandey " <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tw ji, > > > > > > This is what I think. I think that 4-step is a good enough method > > and > > > deserve discussion and critical analysis in this forum. That is the > > > reason that we always remained open for the discussion on 4- step. > > > > > > Because you have quoted it amidst of KP / Non-KP discussion, it is > > important > > > to clarify that " comparative good " has nothing to do with the > > comparison > > > with KP. This is comparison with generally available astrological > > system and > > > should be taken in that context. > > > > > > I hope it answers your question. > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:59 PM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Moderator Punit Pandey ji, > > > > > > > > Could you kindly elaborate why " 4 Step method is comparatively > > good " as > > > > you said below for the benefit of members and in order to move > > ahead from > > > > the prolonged Q & A stage of 4 step basic principles, which is > > already > > > > posted in the file section of this group under > > > > > > > > *A NOTE ON FOUR STEP > > THEORY.doc*<http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/QKPjRwcgEXqlcBWctdNQn- > > D6sDjG_T9vVCByUzxoeKIuwgwp7-o8DecWg1il1EGOmngy5oiIYWnHMTa- > > YX1jboUZEw/A%20NOTE%20ON%20FOUR%20STEP%20THEORY.doc> > > > > > > * * > > > > A STUDY NOTE ON FOUR STEP THEORY . > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40>, > > " Punit Pandey " <punitp@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, Tw ji, Sunil ji and members, > > > > > > > > > > I expect that all of us will maintain the decorum of the forum > > and > > > > > will focus on learning, NOT on proving or disproving something. > > > > > > > > > > All members involved here are senior members and I request > > everybody > > > > > to set example for other members. > > > > > > > > > > 4 Step method is comparatively good and it is good to have a > > critical > > > > > analysis in an open forum. I am watching this thread very > > closely and > > > > > it seems that we have enough discussion. It is advised not to > > take it > > > > > further because it seems that we are deviating from the > > intention of > > > > > learning. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40>, > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear tw, > > > > > > What you've written is undiluted rubbish...it > > > > > thoroughly reveals your " paediatric mindset " > > > > > > ...and,in any case,this kind of paediatric game of " baiting " > > will > > > > > not provoke me,Tin Win...try somewhere else ...Have you read > > Eric > > > > > Berne's very famous book... " Games people play " ? If not ,pl. > > do,and I > > > > > assure you,after perusing it you could discover yourself and > > also > > > > > exactly " what makes you tick " and hopefully,you will stop > > playing > > > > > such paediatric games... > > > > > > Shortcut methods,and " instant learning " is popular in > > > > > the US and abroad,it seems...with the help of a few examples > > which > > > > > suit their preconceived ideas,they will pronounce > > an " axiom " ,as it > > > > > were...only to sheepishly regret it sooner than later... ! > > > > > > We in India,do not to such " instant > > > > > research " ... > > > > > > Practice K.P., and LEARN K.P., by practical > > > > > experience...instead of seeking instant knowledge... > > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 tw853@ > > > > > > <% 40> > > > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 6:36:54 PM > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP PRACTICAL > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi, > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems you don't know how to apply what you're saying > > practically > > > > > > in the life examples. You can say on yourself for the sake of > > > > > saying > > > > > > only. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear tw853, > > > > > > > Words and words...? Ha Ha Ha...Cannot be > > > > > > helped,if people refuse to understand and argue for > > arguments' > > > > > > sake... > > > > > > > A question which I had asked you earlier,and > > > > > > went unanswered is being repeated...Just what are you trying > > to > > > > > > prove ? > > > > > > > If you are keen to impress people that you have > > > > > > more than enough knowledge of K.P., just because you have > > already > > > > > > read various well-known books written by learned > > > > > K.P.stalwarts. ...I > > > > > > am not impressed... > > > > > > > Because, proper application and knowledge are > > > > > > two entirely different entities... > > > > > > > I have analysed and posted my analyses of very > > > > > > many Charts both,Horary and Natal...on many a forum...and I > > do not > > > > > > need any certificate from you...Simply because you said you > > are a > > > > > > beginner,I was just trying to help you learn K.P., > > better...from > > > > > > your mail it appears that you already kmow K.P., as much as > > > > > > a 'Pundit' should... > > > > > > > The best way to learn K.P., is to " do it > > > > > > yourself,if you make mistakes, > > > > > > > never mind,learn from them... > > > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 5:36:54 AM > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why words and words again and never ever presenting > > something > > > > > > > practically? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you know somehting about those matters as your saying, > > why > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > you show with this practical live example chart for the > > benefits > > > > > > of > > > > > > > KP learners? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will understand my analysis if you read the books of > > > > > > Shanmugam, > > > > > > > Bhatt , K. Subramanium and K. Hariharan in respect of > > health and > > > > > > > miserable life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tin Win > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TW, > > > > > > > > I truly admire you for deftly trying to put the > > > > > > > ball back into my court...! > > > > > > > > As a matter of fact,if ,as you claim,you are a > > > > > > > learner...it will certainly be a very good exercise for > > you to > > > > > > find > > > > > > > out which houses the s/l of the Ascendant signifies ... > > (even if > > > > > > you > > > > > > > need to take the help of books...) > > > > > > > > It will firstly, help you to determine the level of > > > > > > > the horoscope,and secondly to especially enable you to > > assess as > > > > > > to > > > > > > > what percentage of the benefits promised by a planet,the > > person > > > > > is > > > > > > > actually destined to enjoy...during it's > > > > > > > Dasa/Bhukti/ Antara/sookshma. ..etc. > > > > > > > > For example,if is exalted and signifies II & > > > > > > > XI...and in a favourable sub...will such a person gain a > > huge > > > > > > amount > > > > > > > of wealth ? If not to what extent...High, Middle,Low or the > > > > > Lowest > > > > > > > level...etc. ! Only K.P. can help you reveal this...and so > > on... > > > > > > > > And, for example,if it signifies I,V,IX and X along > > > > > > > with III & VIII,a long life is promised...if it signifies > > Badhaka > > > > > > > and Maraka Houses...a short life is seen...while if the > > s/l of I > > > > > > > signifies VI...one will be sickly...the sickness will > > begin or > > > > > > > worsen during the conjoint periods of the significators of > > I & > > > > > > > VI...and so on... > > > > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant gives a fair idea of the > > > > > > > general health of a person ...its not being a significator > > of > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > VI,VIII & XII ,shows GOOD health generally ... and so on... > > > > > > > > It is very important to first analyse the Lagna > > > > > > > thoroughly of any horoscope presented for analysis...as > > per our > > > > > > > revered Guruji KSK... > > > > > > > > I fervently hope you are doing this exercise with > > > > > > > every Birth Chart presented to you for your perusal and > > > > > analysis... > > > > > > > > Therefore Tin Winji,I am looking forward to your > > > > > > > analyses... > > > > > > > > Wishing you the very best... > > > > > > > > With kind regards, > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 8:13:02 PM > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Could you kindly present your analysis of the s/l of > > the > > > > > > > > Ascendant in depth for the benefits of all members of > > this > > > > > Group > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > discuss and learn something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I've done my part as a KP learner and now I request > > you as a > > > > > > KP > > > > > > > > Senior to do your part. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TW, > > > > > > > > > Excellent analysis indeed, but could you pl.analyse > > > > > > > > the s/l of the Ascendant in depth ? It should normally > > confirm > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > readings as being on the right track... > > > > > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant,assuming that the TOB is > > > > > > > > the exact one,that is...should indicate or atleast > > confirm all > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > findings... > > > > > > > > > What are your findings in this regard ? > > > > > > > > > It will be interesting to know...could you pl. > > > > > > > > throw some light on this ? > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in advance please... > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 10:38:16 AM > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DEPRESSION > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. 6th Sbl is Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. (Maha) Dasa lord Ra: 7; Asp Ju(3-1-10): Asp Sa+ (5- > > 11-12 & > > > > > > +2- > > > > > > > 4- > > > > > > > > 7- > > > > > > > > > 8); Stl Ma(2-9); Sgl Me(4-7) (Note: No planet is in > > the star > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Sa, > > > > > > > > > which is the Sbl of 2,4,7,8.) Ra is in the sub of Ju(3- > > 1-10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. The occupation of 6th Sbl Ra in 7th and its > > connection > > > > > with > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > (mental stability), 5 (intelligence, mental stability) > > and 9 > > > > > > > > (higher > > > > > > > > > mind) may cause mental aberration. (K. Subramaniam) > > The other > > > > > > > > > possible causes to depression are Asc (head) Conj Ke(7) > > > > > (Note: > > > > > > > No > > > > > > > > > planet is in the star of Ke, which is the Sbl of 9 > > sending > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > native to USA in its Bhukti.); Mo (emotional mind) > > Aspt by Sa > > > > > > > > > (depression, miseries, 7-2-8-12); Me (intelligent > > mind) Conj > > > > > Su > > > > > > > (7- > > > > > > > > 2- > > > > > > > > > 6-8-12; 5th occupied by Sa, Ar (first rasi sign as > > head) Asp > > > > > > by > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > and occupied by Ma(2-8); 6th Sbl Ra:8-12; 8th Sbl > > Sa+:8-12. > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > 12th Sbl Mo+: 6-12+. (Note: No planet is in the star > > of Mo, > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > the Sbl of 12.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra's signification of 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2 > > > > > > (Maraka) > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > unfavorable for health. The repeated signification of > > 4th, > > > > > > i.e. > > > > > > > 12 > > > > > > > > > to 5th, is also no good for mental stability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. However, there are the relieving factors such as: no > > > > > > support > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > Ra's Sbl; Ra can not give it occupational result of > > 7th since > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > in its star. Ju's aspect (to Ra) alone is the > > exception to > > > > > > > relieve > > > > > > > > > the adverse effects of Badhaka. (Sri Shanmugam); Asc > > lord Ju > > > > > > Asp > > > > > > > > > 9th and Mo; Asc Sbl Ju: 2-3-9-1-10 in its own sub; 6th > > Sbl Ra > > > > > > > > > signifies also 1-5-11, 8th Sbl Sa+ signifies also 5-11 > > and > > > > > > 12th > > > > > > > > Sbl > > > > > > > > > Mo+ signifies also 11-5. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. From the above, the depression is expected to be > > gone > > > > > after > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > Dasa and no more in the coming Ju (Maha) Dasa since > > Ju: 2-3-9- > > > > > > 1- > > > > > > > 10 > > > > > > > > > in its own sub. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SETBACKS IN LIFE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. Dasa lord Ra: 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2 > > (Maraka) may > > > > > > > cause > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > miserable life during its Dasa. Another reason for the > > > > > failure > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > further higher study mi be due to a lack of 11th > > > > > signification > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > the 9th Sbl Ke and another lack of 9, 11th > > signification by > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > 11th Sbl Me. But 12th Sbl Mo+ signifies both bad > > houses 5-12+ > > > > > > > (bad > > > > > > > > > luck, loss of money , cheated) and good houses 6-11 > > (good > > > > > > luck) > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > most importantly does not signify 8, 7 (Badhaka & > > Maraka), 2 > > > > > > > > > (Maraka). And the life is expected to be much better > > and > > > > > > stable > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the Ju Dasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. The marriage is promised and more than one is > > indicated. > > > > > > Love > > > > > > > > > marriage is found. Delay and obstacles in marriage are > > > > > > indicated > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > Punarphoo (although cancelled by Dr. Kar's theory); > > Sa's > > > > > > > > occupation > > > > > > > > > of the 5th house aspecting 7, 11, 2 houses; connection > > of > > > > > > 2,4,7, > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > by the same Sbl Sa (here 8th is disappointment, and > > 4th is 12 > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > of love affairs) and Ra in 7th house. (Mars Dosha is > > > > > cancelled > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > it has been found not working in KP by 2 studies of the > > > > > > hundreds > > > > > > > > AA > > > > > > > > > charts.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9. As a KP learner, hit or miss prediction is that job > > > > > > > betterment > > > > > > > > > can be expected in the current running Ra-Ve dasa, > > marriage > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Ra-Su dasa perhaps with difficulties and better life > > in the > > > > > > > coming > > > > > > > > > Ju dasa with a possibility of foreign job.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " <kdsips@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Mr Tin Win for such detailed reply.For the > > benefit > > > > > of > > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > members I would requsets veterans to kindly share > > there > > > > > > > comments > > > > > > > > > > regarding the same. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > kds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (3) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. CHART DATA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla, 03-07-1977, 00:05 AM, Chandigarh > > (UT), > > > > > > > 30N42, > > > > > > > > > > > 76E48, New KP Ayanamsa 23-27-10, Asc Pi 15-40- 22, > > Sun > > > > > Dasa > > > > > > > Bal > > > > > > > > > 0Y- > > > > > > > > > > 0M- > > > > > > > > > > > 0D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. PAST EVENTS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Ra-Ra-Sa: July 1995, got admission in very > > reputed > > > > > engg > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Ra-Ju-Ra: June1999, managed to clear > > engineering with > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra-Sa to Ra-Me-Me: appeared in IAS 3 times till > > July > > > > > > 2002 > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > couldn't clear it > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Ra-Me-Me: august 2002 to DEC 2003, worked in an > > IAS > > > > > > > > coaching > > > > > > > > > > > institute in > > > > > > > > > > > partnership with his teacher > > > > > > > > > > > 5) Ra-Me-Ra: Dec 2003, his partner cheated with > > him and > > > > > > had > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > opt > > > > > > > > > > > out of this institute > > > > > > > > > > > 6) Ra-Me-Ju: from Dec 2003 to April 2004, under > > huge > > > > > > > > depression, > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > idle and sitting in home > > > > > > > > > > > 7) Ra-Me-Ra to Ra-Me-Ju: April 2004, got a (paper) > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > proposal > > > > > > > > > > > from a daughter of IAS officer who was doing > > masters in > > > > > > > Canada > > > > > > > > > > > 8) Ra-Ke-Ve: February 2005, got a marriage > > proposal from > > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > > > girl from Canada > > > > > > > > > > > 9) Ra-Ke-Ve: march 2005, got the job in Airtel and > > worked > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > > > august 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > 10) Ra-Ke-Ju: august 15th 2005, left for USA and > > joined > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > august 2005, however couldn't study there, stayed > > in USA > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > > > > months and couldn't study at all > > > > > > > > > > > 11) Ra-Ve-Su: august 30th 2006, got divorce from > > the > > > > > first > > > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > > > > 12) Ra-Ve-Ma: January 2007, decided to come back to > > > > > India, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > second girl didn't like this and broke off from > > the native > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today the native is on high dose of Anti > > depression > > > > > > > > drugs. > > > > > > > > > At > > > > > > > > > > > present he is doing job in Airtel again with > > salary of > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > Rs10000/. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. DASA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra: 03-07-1994 to 03-07-2012 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ra: 03-07-1994 to 14-03-1997 > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ju: 15-03-1997 to 08-08-1999 > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Sa: 09-08-1999 to 14-06-2002 > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Me:15-06- 2002 to 31-12-2004 > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ke: 01-01-2005 to 20-01-2006 > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ve: 21-01-2006 to 20-01-2009 > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Su: 21-01-2009 to 14-12-2009 > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Mo: 15-12-2009 to 14-06-2011 > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ma: 15-06-2011 to 03-07-2012 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju: 04-07-2012 to 03-07-2028 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Empty houses: 6, 8, 9, 10, 12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, > > Sa, Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets in own stars (*): Nil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra is aspected by Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa aspects 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10) > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ve: > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ve is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Su: > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma(2- 9); > > Asp by Ju > > > > > > (3- > > > > > > > > 10) > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Ve: > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Mo+: 11 > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Mo is Ve: > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ma: > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ve: 2-8 > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ra: > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ra is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Sa+: 5-12; Asp 2 > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Sa is Su: > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma(2- 9); > > Asp by Ju > > > > > > (3- > > > > > > > > 10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Me: > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ju: 3-10 > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Me is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. QUESTIONS TO 4 STEP PRACTITIONERS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Why did such setbacks happen in the already > > passed > > > > > part > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > > > Maha dasa, which primarily signifies only 2-9 > > houses? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) How about the future prospects in the rest of > > Ra dasa > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > respect > > > > > > > > > > > of marriage, carrier and finance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) How can be differentiated the results in the > > coming Ju > > > > > > > dasa > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > compared to the present running Ju dasa since their > > > > > > primary > > > > > > > > > > > significators are exactly the same, i.e. only 2-9 > > houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. REQUEST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the benefit of all members of this Group, > > kindly > > > > > > sharing > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > expertise that has been taught and learned is > > humbly > > > > > > > requested > > > > > > > > > (not > > > > > > > > > > > free prediction which your Guruji didn't allow) by > > > > > > providing > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > necessary calculated data as above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tin Win > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks once again for your reply.Can you share > > > > > something > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > career as right now I am in huge career crisis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not disclose how I do analysis. My 2 cents > > > > > advice > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > that don't get married in rahu mahadasha. You > > will > > > > > see > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the remaining period of rahu mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter period will be the best period in your > > life > > > > > in > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Group members and Mr singh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually I am new to kp astrology.Can you > > elaborate > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > virgo is badhak ,as far as marak is > > concerned I > > > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th house in marak. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also please shed some light on the fact why > > > > > marraige > > > > > > > > > > > > > unconventional > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marraige(I mean to say marriage only on > > papers and > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > consumation) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > took place in rahu-mer, and why it broke of > > in rah- > > > > > > > > > venus.I > > > > > > > > > > > > mean > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > say what is the role of venus bhukti in rahu > > maha > > > > > > > dasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Why my second engagement took off after > > 2.5 > > > > > years > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > sustenence ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) When will my career get settled, will it > > be in > > > > > > > > busines > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > job? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) why i had to leave my masters degree in > > b/w and > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > > > > > back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to india in jan 2007, i mean to say why I > > couldnt > > > > > > > achive > > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > distinction in studies during the whole rahu > > > > > > dasha???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are pisces ascendant. In your chart > > Rahu is > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Virgo sign in a worst placement because > > 7th house > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > pisces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ascendant is both Badhaka and Maraka > > house. So > > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > acting > > > > > > > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > badhaka and maraka planet for you. Also > > Rahu is > > > > > > > > aspected > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of Jupiter on Rahu is very good > > so > > > > > your > > > > > > > > Rahu- > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > period from March 1997 to August 1999 must > > be > > > > > good > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that time were favorable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of 12th lord Saturn on Rahu is > > very > > > > > > bad, > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > Rahu- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > period from august 1999 to June 2002 must > > be very > > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at that time were also unfavorable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also the 6th lord sun is in the nakshatra > > of > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you 6th house results during Rahu-Sun > > period in > > > > > > > 2009, > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > health > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems or debts or separation in > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should not get married during rahu dasa > > > > > again. > > > > > > > > Your > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improve during Jupiter mahadasha after > > july 2012. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Guruji ji and other group > > members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My name is khushdev ,I have joined this > > group > > > > > > > > > recently.I > > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system of astrology.I am in deep menatl > > pain , > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > requset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all to help me out of tis pain .My > > history is > > > > > > > > attached > > > > > > > > > > > > > below.Pls > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me out of this agony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name-Khushdev singla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth date- 03 july 1977 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time-00.05 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > place- chandigarh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 History > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am have been running the rahu dasha > > from mid > > > > > > > 1994 > > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having trouble in acedemics and career > > > > > > settlement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In july 1995 I got admission in very > > reputed > > > > > > engg > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > electrical stream.At that time I was > > suffering > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > depression > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was put on depression pills by > > psychiatric. > > > > > > Though > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > GOT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ADMISSION , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I couldnt perform acedamically > > good .I used > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression and was unable to study at > > all.I > > > > > > > somehow > > > > > > > > > > > managed > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my engineering with much difficulty in > > > > > > June1999.I > > > > > > > > > opted > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a job because i wanted to prepare > > for IAS > > > > > > > > exams.At > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > antardasha of saturn started , I put > > myself > > > > > > wholly > > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > exam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > putting all my career at stake.I appread > > in IAS > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > july > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 but couldnt clear it , to my > > surprise the > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting less marks than me in mock tests > > got > > > > > > > > > selected.My > > > > > > > > > > > > > failure > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a shock for me ,I opted to teach in an > > IAS > > > > > > > coaching > > > > > > > > > > > > institute > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > partnership with my teacher.I worked > > there from > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dec > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2003.In dec 2003 my partner cheated with > > me and > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > opt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this institute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was job less and all my dreams were > > > > > > shattered,I > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > > > > huge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression from dec 2003 to april > > 2004.During > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > time I > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > idle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and was sitting in home.I even had > > feeling of > > > > > > > > > suicideTo > > > > > > > > > > > let > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my anti depression pilss were still > > continuing > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > 1994. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In april 2004 out of sudden I got a > > marriage > > > > > > > > proposal > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > daughter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of IAS officer who was doing masters in > > > > > > canada.She > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > india > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > few days and wanted to get married to a > > guy in > > > > > > > > > india.We > > > > > > > > > > > > decided > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for paper marriage and did entered into > > > > > physical > > > > > > > > > relation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We made a resolution that we will enetr > > into > > > > > > > > physical > > > > > > > > > > > > relation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three months and will get formal > > ceremony done > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only.Meanwhile our plans were i will take > > > > > > > admission > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will do MTech from there.The girl left > > for > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months she decided to discontinue this > > > > > > > > relation.Since > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > paper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marriage so we had to take a formal > > divorce. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile I got a marriage proposal from > > some > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in feburary 2005.We got engaged I told > > her > > > > > about > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > prevous > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marraige > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so decided not to get married till my > > first > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > annulled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was selected by a university in USA to > > do > > > > > > MTech > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > join > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from july 2005.Meanwhile I got the job in > > > > > Airtel > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > march > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worked for Airtel till august 2005.I > > left for > > > > > > USA > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005.The second girl was so nice she > > cooperated > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > waited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for me so that my divorce is cleared.I > > joined > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However i couldnt study there ,I stayed > > in usa > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > > > > months > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldnt study at all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On august 30th 2006 I got divorce from > > the > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > girl.By > > > > > > > > > > > > > january > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I decided to come back to India .The > > second > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > didnt > > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she broke off from me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today I am on high dose of Anti > > depression > > > > > > > drugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My questions are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Career > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At present I am doing job in Airtel > > again with > > > > > > > > salary > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rs10000/.I sometimes feel misearble that > > after > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > > > study > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and doing BTech from reputed college > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and even going to USA for higher study > > why I am > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > lowly > > > > > > > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terms of career. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you see in future for my career. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should I do business or job , will I be > > able to > > > > > > > rise > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > heights > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > career > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Marriage when will I get married.How > > will be > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > married > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will my partner be from high status > > family or > > > > > > > not.I > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good proposals for marriage at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 Financial status how will be my > > financial > > > > > > > > > status.Some > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology pandits say that after 2012 in > > my > > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > > dasha > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rise like anything in career as it will > > be a > > > > > > dasha > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dashmesh.Is this true??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls help me out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 09876154877 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Dear Tw ji, If you contribution has not been appreciated, I would not be spending so much time replying your emails. I jumped in only when I saw that it is going beyond the expected level. I could clearly see the violation of two of our guiding points as follows - · Any type of Personal attack, flaming, or profane language will not be tolerated. Members, please focus only on the subject and not deviate or go off tangents on provocative indecent behaviour or language. · Please don't try to prove superiority of one branch of astrology over another. In this group, all branches should be treated with equal respect. Respect for other branches is essential for research and discussion. (Taken from forum constitution file) Please post clearly what you didn't expect from the moderator? The critical analysis of any method is always welcome. But to the standard it has reached recently is neither appreciated not accepted. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 4:01 PM, tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Punit Pandey ji,I've already told you I've nothing to say in this regard. If you asy so, who thouroughly studied this 4 step method and expalined clearly in this forum at one place for the learning for sure? Who did give a compilation of mesages to learn it? It is the same not expected from a moderator like you. Thanks and regards,tw , " Punit Pandey " <punitp wrote: >> Dear Tw ji,> > Instead of digging into old emails and searching for points related to> particular method, why can't we stop blaming and move on? Now as we have a> definition for stellar methods, why can't all those methods live together?> Quoting some sentence from an old email wihout the context presents> incorrect meaning. I don't know what is the intention here but for it is not> conductive for the learning for sure. It is not expected from a senior> member like you.> > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 8:28 AM, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> > > Dear Punit Pandey ji,> >> > If this is your thinking without any particular reason, I've nothing> > to say. Regarding discussion, are allowed for that> > purpose.> >> > Thanks and regards,> >> > tw> >> > <% 40>, " Punit > > Pandey " <punitp@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tw ji,> > >> > > This is what I think. I think that 4-step is a good enough method > > and> > > deserve discussion and critical analysis in this forum. That is the> > > reason that we always remained open for the discussion on 4-step.> > >> > > Because you have quoted it amidst of KP / Non-KP discussion, it is> > important> > > to clarify that " comparative good " has nothing to do with the> > comparison> > > with KP. This is comparison with generally available astrological > > system and> > > should be taken in that context.> > >> > > I hope it answers your question.> > >> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > Punit Pandey> > >> > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:59 PM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > >> > > > Dear Moderator Punit Pandey ji,> > > > > > > > Could you kindly elaborate why " 4 Step method is comparatively> > good " as> > > > you said below for the benefit of members and in order to move> > ahead from > > > > the prolonged Q & A stage of 4 step basic principles, which is> > already> > > > posted in the file section of this group under> > > >> > > > *A NOTE ON FOUR STEP > > THEORY.doc*<http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/QKPjRwcgEXqlcBWctdNQn-> > D6sDjG_T9vVCByUzxoeKIuwgwp7-o8DecWg1il1EGOmngy5oiIYWnHMTa- > > YX1jboUZEw/A%20NOTE%20ON%20FOUR%20STEP%20THEORY.doc>> >> > > > * *> > > > A STUDY NOTE ON FOUR STEP THEORY .> > > >> > > > Thanks and regards, > > > >> > > > tw> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > <% 40>, > > " Punit Pandey " <punitp@>> > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, Tw ji, Sunil ji and members,> > > > > > > > > > I expect that all of us will maintain the decorum of the forum> > and> > > > > will focus on learning, NOT on proving or disproving something.> > > > > > > > > > All members involved here are senior members and I request> > everybody> > > > > to set example for other members.> > > > >> > > > > 4 Step method is comparatively good and it is good to have a> > critical> > > > > analysis in an open forum. I am watching this thread very> > closely and> > > > > it seems that we have enough discussion. It is advised not to> > take it> > > > > further because it seems that we are deviating from the> > intention of> > > > > learning.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > >> > > > > Punit Pandey> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > <% 40>, > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear tw,> > > > > > What you've written is undiluted rubbish...it > > > > > thoroughly reveals your " paediatric mindset " > > > > > > ...and,in any case,this kind of paediatric game of " baiting " > > will> > > > > not provoke me,Tin Win...try somewhere else ...Have you read> > Eric> > > > > Berne's very famous book... " Games people play " ? If not ,pl.> > do,and I> > > > > assure you,after perusing it you could discover yourself and> > also> > > > > exactly " what makes you tick " and hopefully,you will stop> > playing> > > > > such paediatric games...> > > > > > Shortcut methods,and " instant learning " is popular in > > > > > the US and abroad,it seems...with the help of a few examples> > which> > > > > suit their preconceived ideas,they will pronounce> > an " axiom " ,as it > > > > > were...only to sheepishly regret it sooner than later... !> > > > > > We in India,do not to such " instant> > > > > research " ...> > > > > > Practice K.P., and LEARN K.P., by practical > > > > > experience...instead of seeking instant knowledge...> > > > > > With best wishes,> > > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 tw853@ > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 6:36:54 PM> > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP PRACTICAL> > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,> > > > > >> > > > > > It seems you don't know how to apply what you're saying> > practically > > > > > > in the life examples. You can say on yourself for the sake of> > > > > saying> > > > > > only.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards, > > > > > >> > > > > > tw> > > > > >> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear tw853,> > > > > > > Words and words...? Ha Ha Ha...Cannot be > > > > > > helped,if people refuse to understand and argue for> > arguments'> > > > > > sake...> > > > > > > A question which I had asked you earlier,and > > > > > > went unanswered is being repeated...Just what are you trying> > to> > > > > > prove ?> > > > > > > If you are keen to impress people that you have > > > > > > more than enough knowledge of K.P., just because you have> > already> > > > > > read various well-known books written by learned> > > > > K.P.stalwarts. ...I > > > > > > am not impressed...> > > > > > > Because, proper application and knowledge are> > > > > > two entirely different entities...> > > > > > > I have analysed and posted my analyses of very > > > > > > many Charts both,Horary and Natal...on many a forum...and I> > do not> > > > > > need any certificate from you...Simply because you said you> > are a > > > > > > beginner,I was just trying to help you learn K.P.,> > better...from> > > > > > your mail it appears that you already kmow K.P., as much as> > > > > > a 'Pundit' should... > > > > > > > The best way to learn K.P., is to " do it> > > > > > yourself,if you make mistakes,> > > > > > > never mind,learn from them...> > > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 5:36:54 AM> > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP> > PRACTICAL> > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Why words and words again and never ever presenting> > something > > > > > > > practically?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > If you know somehting about those matters as your saying,> > why> > > > > > don't > > > > > > > you show with this practical live example chart for the> > benefits> > > > > > of> > > > > > > KP learners?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will understand my analysis if you read the books of> > > > > > Shanmugam,> > > > > > > Bhatt , K. Subramanium and K. Hariharan in respect of > > health and> > > > > > > miserable life.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Tin Win > > > > > > >> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi> > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear TW,> > > > > > > > I truly admire you for deftly trying to put the > > > > > > > ball back into my court...!> > > > > > > > As a matter of fact,if ,as you claim,you are a> > > > > > > learner...it will certainly be a very good exercise for > > you to> > > > > > find> > > > > > > out which houses the s/l of the Ascendant signifies ...> > (even if> > > > > > you> > > > > > > need to take the help of books...) > > > > > > > > It will firstly, help you to determine the level of> > > > > > > the horoscope,and secondly to especially enable you to> > assess as> > > > > > to > > > > > > > what percentage of the benefits promised by a planet,the> > person> > > > > is> > > > > > > actually destined to enjoy...during it's > > > > > > > Dasa/Bhukti/ Antara/sookshma. ..etc.> > > > > > > > For example,if is exalted and signifies II & > > > > > > > XI...and in a favourable sub...will such a person gain a> > huge> > > > > > amount> > > > > > > of wealth ? If not to what extent...High, Middle,Low or the> > > > > Lowest> > > > > > > level...etc. ! Only K.P. can help you reveal this...and so> > on...> > > > > > > > And, for example,if it signifies I,V,IX and X along> > > > > > > with III & VIII,a long life is promised...if it signifies> > Badhaka> > > > > > > and Maraka Houses...a short life is seen...while if the> > s/l of I> > > > > > > signifies VI...one will be sickly...the sickness will > > begin or> > > > > > > worsen during the conjoint periods of the significators of> > I & > > > > > > > VI...and so on...> > > > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant gives a fair idea of the > > > > > > > general health of a person ...its not being a significator> > of> > > > > > houses> > > > > > > VI,VIII & XII ,shows GOOD health generally ... and so on...> > > > > > > > It is very important to first analyse the Lagna> > > > > > > thoroughly of any horoscope presented for analysis...as> > per our> > > > > > > revered Guruji KSK... > > > > > > > > I fervently hope you are doing this exercise with> > > > > > > every Birth Chart presented to you for your perusal and> > > > > analysis... > > > > > > > > Therefore Tin Winji,I am looking forward to your> > > > > > > analyses...> > > > > > > > Wishing you the very best...> > > > > > > > With kind regards, > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 8:13:02 PM> > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP> > PRACTICAL> > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 1. Could you kindly present your analysis of the s/l of> > the> > > > > > > > Ascendant in depth for the benefits of all members of> > this> > > > > Group> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > discuss and learn something. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 2. I've done my part as a KP learner and now I request> > you as a> > > > > > KP> > > > > > > > Senior to do your part. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi> > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..>> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear TW,> > > > > > > > > Excellent analysis indeed, but could you pl.analyse> > > > > > > > the s/l of the Ascendant in depth ? It should normally> > confirm> > > > > > > your> > > > > > > > readings as being on the right track...> > > > > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant,assuming that the TOB is > > > > > > > > the exact one,that is...should indicate or atleast> > confirm all> > > > > > > your> > > > > > > > findings...> > > > > > > > > What are your findings in this regard ? > > > > > > > > > It will be interesting to know...could you pl.> > > > > > > > throw some light on this ?> > > > > > > > > Thanking you in advance please... > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 10:38:16 AM > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP> > PRACTICAL> > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DEPRESSION> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1. 6th Sbl is Ra.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. (Maha) Dasa lord Ra: 7; Asp Ju(3-1-10): Asp Sa+(5-> > 11-12 & > > > > > > +2-> > > > > > > 4-> > > > > > > > 7- > > > > > > > > > 8); Stl Ma(2-9); Sgl Me(4-7) (Note: No planet is in> > the star> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > Sa,> > > > > > > > > which is the Sbl of 2,4,7,8.) Ra is in the sub of Ju(3-> > 1-10)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 3. The occupation of 6th Sbl Ra in 7th and its> > connection> > > > > with > > > > > > 3> > > > > > > > > (mental stability), 5 (intelligence, mental stability)> > and 9> > > > > > > > (higher> > > > > > > > > mind) may cause mental aberration. (K. Subramaniam) > > The other> > > > > > > > > possible causes to depression are Asc (head) Conj Ke(7)> > > > > (Note:> > > > > > > No> > > > > > > > > planet is in the star of Ke, which is the Sbl of 9 > > sending> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > native to USA in its Bhukti.); Mo (emotional mind)> > Aspt by Sa> > > > > > > > > (depression, miseries, 7-2-8-12); Me (intelligent > > mind) Conj> > > > > Su> > > > > > > (7-> > > > > > > > 2-> > > > > > > > > 6-8-12; 5th occupied by Sa, Ar (first rasi sign as > > head) Asp> > > > > > by> > > > > > > Sa> > > > > > > > > and occupied by Ma(2-8); 6th Sbl Ra:8-12; 8th Sbl> > Sa+:8-12. > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > 12th Sbl Mo+: 6-12+. (Note: No planet is in the star> > of Mo,> > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > the Sbl of 12.)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 4. Ra's signification of 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2 > > > > > > (Maraka)> > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > unfavorable for health. The repeated signification of> > 4th,> > > > > > i.e. > > > > > > > 12> > > > > > > > > to 5th, is also no good for mental stability.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 5. However, there are the relieving factors such as: no> > > > > > support> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > Ra's Sbl; Ra can not give it occupational result of> > 7th since> > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > in its star. Ju's aspect (to Ra) alone is the> > exception to> > > > > > > relieve> > > > > > > > > the adverse effects of Badhaka. (Sri Shanmugam); Asc> > lord Ju> > > > > > Asp> > > > > > > > > 9th and Mo; Asc Sbl Ju: 2-3-9-1-10 in its own sub; 6th> > Sbl Ra> > > > > > > > > signifies also 1-5-11, 8th Sbl Sa+ signifies also 5-11> > and> > > > > > 12th> > > > > > > > Sbl> > > > > > > > > Mo+ signifies also 11-5.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. From the above, the depression is expected to be> > gone> > > > > after> > > > > > > Ra> > > > > > > > > Dasa and no more in the coming Ju (Maha) Dasa since > > Ju: 2-3-9-> > > > > > 1-> > > > > > > 10> > > > > > > > > in its own sub.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > SETBACKS IN LIFE > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 7. Dasa lord Ra: 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2> > (Maraka) may> > > > > > > cause> > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > miserable life during its Dasa. Another reason for the> > > > > failure> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > further higher study mi be due to a lack of 11th > > > > > signification> > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > the 9th Sbl Ke and another lack of 9, 11th> > signification by> > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > 11th Sbl Me. But 12th Sbl Mo+ signifies both bad> > houses 5-12+> > > > > > > (bad> > > > > > > > > luck, loss of money , cheated) and good houses 6-11 > > (good> > > > > > luck)> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > most importantly does not signify 8, 7 (Badhaka & > > Maraka), 2 > > > > > > > > > (Maraka). And the life is expected to be much better> > and> > > > > > stable> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > the Ju Dasa. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 8. The marriage is promised and more than one is> > indicated.> > > > > > Love> > > > > > > > > marriage is found. Delay and obstacles in marriage are> > > > > > indicated> > > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > Punarphoo (although cancelled by Dr. Kar's theory);> > Sa's > > > > > > > > occupation> > > > > > > > > of the 5th house aspecting 7, 11, 2 houses; connection> > of> > > > > > 2,4,7,> > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > by the same Sbl Sa (here 8th is disappointment, and> > 4th is 12> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > 5th> > > > > > > > > of love affairs) and Ra in 7th house. (Mars Dosha is> > > > > cancelled> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > it has been found not working in KP by 2 studies of the> > > > > > hundreds > > > > > > > > AA> > > > > > > > > charts.)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 9. As a KP learner, hit or miss prediction is that job> > > > > > > betterment> > > > > > > > > can be expected in the current running Ra-Ve dasa,> > marriage> > > > > in> > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Ra-Su dasa perhaps with difficulties and better life> > in the> > > > > > > coming> > > > > > > > > Ju dasa with a possibility of foreign job.. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Good luck!> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " <kdsips@>> > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanks Mr Tin Win for such detailed reply.For the> > benefit> > > > > of > > > > > > > > group> > > > > > > > > > members I would requsets veterans to kindly share> > there> > > > > > > comments> > > > > > > > > > regarding the same. > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > kds> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@>> > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (3)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. CHART DATA> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla, 03-07-1977, 00:05 AM, Chandigarh> > (UT),> > > > > > > 30N42,> > > > > > > > > > > 76E48, New KP Ayanamsa 23-27-10, Asc Pi 15-40-22,> > Sun> > > > > Dasa > > > > > > > Bal> > > > > > > > > 0Y-> > > > > > > > > > 0M-> > > > > > > > > > > 0D> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. PAST EVENTS> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 1) Ra-Ra-Sa: July 1995, got admission in very > > reputed> > > > > engg> > > > > > > > > college> > > > > > > > > > > 2) Ra-Ju-Ra: June1999, managed to clear> > engineering with > > > > > > > much> > > > > > > > > > > difficulty> > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra-Sa to Ra-Me-Me: appeared in IAS 3 times till > > July> > > > > > 2002> > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > > couldn't clear it> > > > > > > > > > > 4) Ra-Me-Me: august 2002 to DEC 2003, worked in an> > IAS> > > > > > > > coaching> > > > > > > > > > > institute in> > > > > > > > > > > partnership with his teacher > > > > > > > > > > > 5) Ra-Me-Ra: Dec 2003, his partner cheated with> > him and> > > > > > had> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > opt > > > > > > > > > > > out of this institute> > > > > > > > > > > 6) Ra-Me-Ju: from Dec 2003 to April 2004, under> > huge> > > > > > > > depression, > > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > idle and sitting in home> > > > > > > > > > > 7) Ra-Me-Ra to Ra-Me-Ju: April 2004, got a (paper)> > > > > > marriage> > > > > > > > > > proposal> > > > > > > > > > > from a daughter of IAS officer who was doing> > masters in > > > > > > > Canada> > > > > > > > > > > 8) Ra-Ke-Ve: February 2005, got a marriage> > proposal from> > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > > > girl from Canada> > > > > > > > > > > 9) Ra-Ke-Ve: march 2005, got the job in Airtel and> > worked> > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > till> > > > > > > > > > > august 2005> > > > > > > > > > > 10) Ra-Ke-Ju: august 15th 2005, left for USA and> > joined> > > > > > > > college> > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > august 2005, however couldn't study there, stayed> > in USA> > > > > > for> > > > > > > > 18> > > > > > > > > > > months and couldn't study at all> > > > > > > > > > > 11) Ra-Ve-Su: august 30th 2006, got divorce from> > the> > > > > first> > > > > > > girl> > > > > > > > > > > 12) Ra-Ve-Ma: January 2007, decided to come back to> > > > > India, > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > second girl didn't like this and broke off from> > the native> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today the native is on high dose of Anti> > depression> > > > > > > > drugs.> > > > > > > > > At > > > > > > > > > > > present he is doing job in Airtel again with> > salary of> > > > > > only> > > > > > > > > > Rs10000/. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 3. DASA> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Ra: 03-07-1994 to 03-07-2012 > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ra: 03-07-1994 to 14-03-1997> > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ju: 15-03-1997 to 08-08-1999 > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Sa: 09-08-1999 to 14-06-2002> > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Me:15-06- 2002 to 31-12-2004> > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ke: 01-01-2005 to 20-01-2006 > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ve: 21-01-2006 to 20-01-2009> > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Su: 21-01-2009 to 14-12-2009> > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Mo: 15-12-2009 to 14-06-2011 > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ma: 15-06-2011 to 03-07-2012> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Ju: 04-07-2012 to 03-07-2028 > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 4. PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Empty houses: 6, 8, 9, 10, 12> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, > > Sa, Ke> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Planets in own stars (*): Nil> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra is aspected by Ju> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Sa aspects 2> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10)> > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4> > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ve:> > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ve is Ju:> > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Su:> > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma(2-9);> > Asp by Ju> > > > > > (3- > > > > > > > > 10)> > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Ve:> > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Mo+: 11> > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Su: 4-6> > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Mo is Ve: > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ma:> > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ve: 2-8 > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10)> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ra:> > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ra is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ju:> > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Ju:> > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Sa+: 5-12; Asp 2> > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 4> > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Sa is Su: > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma(2-9);> > Asp by Ju> > > > > > (3-> > > > > > > > 10)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Me:> > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ju: 3-10> > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Me is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 5. QUESTIONS TO 4 STEP PRACTITIONERS > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 1) Why did such setbacks happen in the already> > passed> > > > > part> > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Ra> > > > > > > > > > > Maha dasa, which primarily signifies only 2-9> > houses?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) How about the future prospects in the rest of> > Ra dasa> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > respect > > > > > > > > > > > of marriage, carrier and finance?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 3) How can be differentiated the results in the > > coming Ju> > > > > > > dasa> > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > compared to the present running Ju dasa since their> > > > > > primary> > > > > > > > > > > significators are exactly the same, i.e. only 2-9> > houses.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. REQUEST> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > For the benefit of all members of this Group, > > kindly> > > > > > sharing> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > your> > > > > > > > > > > expertise that has been taught and learned is > > humbly> > > > > > > requested> > > > > > > > > (not> > > > > > > > > > > free prediction which your Guruji didn't allow) by> > > > > > providing> > > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > > necessary calculated data as above.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Tin Win> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " > > <kdsips@>> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > thanks once again for your reply.Can you share> > > > > something> > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > > > > > career as right now I am in huge career crisis.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro> > ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ >> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not disclose how I do analysis. My 2 cents> > > > > advice > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > that don't get married in rahu mahadasha. You> > will> > > > > see> > > > > > > > more> > > > > > > > > > > > problems> > > > > > > > > > > > > in the remaining period of rahu mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter period will be the best period in your> > life> > > > > in > > > > > > > > every> > > > > > > > > > way.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > <kdsips@>> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Group members and Mr singh,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually I am new to kp astrology.Can you > > elaborate> > > > > > > how> > > > > > > > > rahu> > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > virgo is badhak ,as far as marak is > > concerned I> > > > > > > > understand> > > > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > > > > being> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th house in marak. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also please shed some light on the fact why> > > > > marraige > > > > > > > > > > > > > unconventional> > > > > > > > > > > > > > marraige(I mean to say marriage only on> > papers and> > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > consumation)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > took place in rahu-mer, and why it broke of> > in rah-> > > > > > > > > venus.I > > > > > > > > > > > > mean> > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > say what is the role of venus bhukti in rahu> > maha> > > > > > > dasha.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Why my second engagement took off after> > 2.5> > > > > years > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > sustenence ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) When will my career get settled, will it> > be in> > > > > > > > busines> > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > job?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) why i had to leave my masters degree in> > b/w and> > > > > > had> > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > came> > > > > > > > > > > > back> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to india in jan 2007, i mean to say why I > > couldnt> > > > > > > achive> > > > > > > > > any> > > > > > > > > > > > > > distinction in studies during the whole rahu> > > > > > dasha????> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are pisces ascendant. In your chart> > Rahu is> > > > > in> > > > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Virgo sign in a worst placement because > > 7th house> > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > pisces> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ascendant is both Badhaka and Maraka > > house. So> > > > > > Rahu> > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > acting> > > > > > > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > badhaka and maraka planet for you. Also> > Rahu is> > > > > > > > aspected> > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Saturn.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of Jupiter on Rahu is very good> > so> > > > > your> > > > > > > > Rahu- > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > period from March 1997 to August 1999 must> > be> > > > > good > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > transits> > > > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that time were favorable.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of 12th lord Saturn on Rahu is> > very> > > > > > bad,> > > > > > > so> > > > > > > > > Rahu-> > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > period from august 1999 to June 2002 must> > be very> > > > > > > bad> > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > transits> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at that time were also unfavorable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also the 6th lord sun is in the nakshatra> > of> > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > so> > > > > > > > > rahu> > > > > > > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you 6th house results during Rahu-Sun> > period in> > > > > > > 2009,> > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > health> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems or debts or separation in> > marriage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should not get married during rahu dasa> > > > > again.> > > > > > > > Your> > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improve during Jupiter mahadasha after> > july 2012.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro> > ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Guruji ji and other group > > members,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My name is khushdev ,I have joined this> > group> > > > > > > > > recently.I > > > > > > > > > > > am> > > > > > > > > > > > new> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system of astrology.I am in deep menatl> > pain ,> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > requset> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all to help me out of tis pain .My > > history is> > > > > > > > attached> > > > > > > > > > > > > below.Pls> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me out of this agony.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name-Khushdev singla> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth date- 03 july 1977> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time-00.05 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > place- chandigarh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 History > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am have been running the rahu dasha> > from mid> > > > > > > 1994> > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > > > then> > > > > > > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > am> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having trouble in acedemics and career> > > > > > settlement.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In july 1995 I got admission in very> > reputed> > > > > > engg > > > > > > > > > college> > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > electrical stream.At that time I was > > suffering> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > depression> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was put on depression pills by > > psychiatric.> > > > > > Though> > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > GOT> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ADMISSION , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I couldnt perform acedamically> > good .I used> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > under> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression and was unable to study at> > all.I> > > > > > > somehow > > > > > > > > > > > managed> > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clear> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my engineering with much difficulty in> > > > > > June1999.I> > > > > > > > > opted> > > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a job because i wanted to prepare> > for IAS> > > > > > > > exams.At > > > > > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > > > > time> > > > > > > > > > > > > > my> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > antardasha of saturn started , I put > > myself> > > > > > wholly> > > > > > > > > into> > > > > > > > > > > IAS> > > > > > > > > > > > > exam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > putting all my career at stake.I appread> > in IAS> > > > > > > > three> > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > till> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > july> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 but couldnt clear it , to my > > surprise the> > > > > > > > people> > > > > > > > > who> > > > > > > > > > > > were> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting less marks than me in mock tests> > got> > > > > > > > > selected.My> > > > > > > > > > > > > failure> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a shock for me ,I opted to teach in an> > IAS> > > > > > > coaching> > > > > > > > > > > > institute > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > partnership with my teacher.I worked> > there from> > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > 2002> > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dec> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2003.In dec 2003 my partner cheated with> > me and> > > > > > I> > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > opt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this institute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was job less and all my dreams were> > > > > > shattered,I> > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > > > > huge> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression from dec 2003 to april> > 2004.During> > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > time I> > > > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > > idle> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and was sitting in home.I even had > > feeling of> > > > > > > > > suicideTo> > > > > > > > > > > let> > > > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my anti depression pilss were still> > continuing> > > > > > > since> > > > > > > > > 1994. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In april 2004 out of sudden I got a> > marriage> > > > > > > > proposal> > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > daughter> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of IAS officer who was doing masters in> > > > > > canada.She> > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > india> > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > few days and wanted to get married to a> > guy in> > > > > > > > > india.We> > > > > > > > > > > > decided > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for paper marriage and did entered into> > > > > physical> > > > > > > > > relation> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We made a resolution that we will enetr > > into> > > > > > > > physical> > > > > > > > > > > > relation> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three months and will get formal> > ceremony done> > > > > > at> > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > time> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only.Meanwhile our plans were i will take> > > > > > > admission > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > canada> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will do MTech from there.The girl left> > for> > > > > > canada> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > after> > > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months she decided to discontinue this> > > > > > > > relation.Since> > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > paper> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marriage so we had to take a formal > > divorce.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile I got a marriage proposal from> > some> > > > > > > other> > > > > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canada> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in feburary 2005.We got engaged I told> > her> > > > > about> > > > > > > my> > > > > > > > > > > prevous> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marraige > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so decided not to get married till my> > first> > > > > > > marriage> > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > annulled.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was selected by a university in USA to> > do > > > > > > MTech> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > join > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from july 2005.Meanwhile I got the job in> > > > > Airtel> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > march > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005.I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worked for Airtel till august 2005.I> > left for> > > > > > USA > > > > > > > on> > > > > > > > > > > august> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15th> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005.The second girl was so nice she > > cooperated> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > me> > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > waited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for me so that my divorce is cleared.I> > joined> > > > > > > > college> > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > august> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However i couldnt study there ,I stayed> > in usa> > > > > > for> > > > > > > > 18> > > > > > > > > > > months> > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldnt study at all> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On august 30th 2006 I got divorce from> > the> > > > > first> > > > > > > > > girl.By> > > > > > > > > > > > > january> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I decided to come back to India .The> > second> > > > > girl> > > > > > > > didnt > > > > > > > > > > > like> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this ,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she broke off from me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today I am on high dose of Anti> > depression > > > > > > > drugs> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My questions are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Career> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At present I am doing job in Airtel> > again with > > > > > > > > salary> > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > only> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rs10000/.I sometimes feel misearble that> > after> > > > > > so> > > > > > > > much> > > > > > > > > > > study> > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IAS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and doing BTech from reputed college> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and even going to USA for higher study> > why I am> > > > > > so> > > > > > > > > lowly> > > > > > > > > > > > > placed> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terms of career.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you see in future for my career. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should I do business or job , will I be> > able to> > > > > > > rise> > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > heights> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > career> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Marriage when will I get married.How> > will be> > > > > > my> > > > > > > > > > > > married > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will my partner be from high status> > family or > > > > > > > not.I> > > > > > > > am> > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good proposals for marriage at all.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 Financial status how will be my> > financial > > > > > > > > > status.Some> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology pandits say that after 2012 in> > my> > > > > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > > > dasha> > > > > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rise like anything in career as it will> > be a> > > > > > dasha> > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnesh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dashmesh.Is this true??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls help me out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 09876154877> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Dear Punit Pandey ji, I'm not against or objecting any method. Like some others I'm interested in old and new methods and so I've studied some of them and presented the analysis with their own names. My point it not to miss up with KP name sticking to KP like a snail and to use its own name, otherwise it's confusing for members whether the analysis is by KP or by another method. Thanks and regards, tw , " Punit Pandey " <punitp wrote: > > Dear Tw ji, > > If you contribution has not been appreciated, I would not be spending so > much time replying your emails. I jumped in only when I saw that it is going > beyond the expected level. I could clearly see the violation of two of our > guiding points as follows - > > > · Any type of Personal attack, flaming, or profane language will not > be tolerated. Members, please focus only on the subject and not deviate or > go off tangents on provocative indecent behaviour or language. > > · Please don't try to prove superiority of one branch of astrology > over another. In this group, all branches should be treated with equal > respect. Respect for other branches is essential for research and > discussion. > (Taken from forum constitution file) > > Please post clearly what you didn't expect from the moderator? The critical > analysis of any method is always welcome. But to the standard it has reached > recently is neither appreciated not accepted. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 4:01 PM, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji, > > > > I've already told you I've nothing to say in this regard. If you asy > > so, who thouroughly studied this 4 step method and expalined clearly > > in this forum at one place for the learning for sure? Who did give a > > compilation of mesages to learn it? It is the same not expected from > > a moderator like you. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > <% 40>, " Punit > > Pandey " <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tw ji, > > > > > > Instead of digging into old emails and searching for points > > related to > > > particular method, why can't we stop blaming and move on? Now as > > we have a > > > definition for stellar methods, why can't all those methods live > > together? > > > Quoting some sentence from an old email wihout the context presents > > > incorrect meaning. I don't know what is the intention here but for > > it is not > > > conductive for the learning for sure. It is not expected from a > > senior > > > member like you. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 8:28 AM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji, > > > > > > > > If this is your thinking without any particular reason, I've > > nothing > > > > to say. Regarding discussion, are allowed for that > > > > purpose. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40>, " Punit > > > > > > Pandey " <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tw ji, > > > > > > > > > > This is what I think. I think that 4-step is a good enough > > method > > > > and > > > > > deserve discussion and critical analysis in this forum. That > > is the > > > > > reason that we always remained open for the discussion on 4- > > step. > > > > > > > > > > Because you have quoted it amidst of KP / Non-KP discussion, > > it is > > > > important > > > > > to clarify that " comparative good " has nothing to do with the > > > > comparison > > > > > with KP. This is comparison with generally available > > astrological > > > > system and > > > > > should be taken in that context. > > > > > > > > > > I hope it answers your question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:59 PM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Moderator Punit Pandey ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you kindly elaborate why " 4 Step method is > > comparatively > > > > good " as > > > > > > you said below for the benefit of members and in order to > > move > > > > ahead from > > > > > > the prolonged Q & A stage of 4 step basic principles, which > > is > > > > already > > > > > > posted in the file section of this group under > > > > > > > > > > > > *A NOTE ON FOUR STEP > > > > THEORY.doc*<http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/QKPjRwcgEXqlcBWctdNQn- > > > > D6sDjG_T9vVCByUzxoeKIuwgwp7-o8DecWg1il1EGOmngy5oiIYWnHMTa- > > > > YX1jboUZEw/A%20NOTE%20ON%20FOUR%20STEP%20THEORY.doc> > > > > > > > > > > * * > > > > > > A STUDY NOTE ON FOUR STEP THEORY . > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40>, > > > > " Punit Pandey " <punitp@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, Tw ji, Sunil ji and members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I expect that all of us will maintain the decorum of the > > forum > > > > and > > > > > > > will focus on learning, NOT on proving or disproving > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All members involved here are senior members and I request > > > > everybody > > > > > > > to set example for other members. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 Step method is comparatively good and it is good to have > > a > > > > critical > > > > > > > analysis in an open forum. I am watching this thread very > > > > closely and > > > > > > > it seems that we have enough discussion. It is advised not > > to > > > > take it > > > > > > > further because it seems that we are deviating from the > > > > intention of > > > > > > > learning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40>, > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear tw, > > > > > > > > What you've written is undiluted rubbish...it > > > > > > > thoroughly reveals your " paediatric mindset " > > > > > > > > ...and,in any case,this kind of paediatric game > > of " baiting " > > > > will > > > > > > > not provoke me,Tin Win...try somewhere else ...Have you > > read > > > > Eric > > > > > > > Berne's very famous book... " Games people play " ? If > > not ,pl. > > > > do,and I > > > > > > > assure you,after perusing it you could discover yourself > > and > > > > also > > > > > > > exactly " what makes you tick " and hopefully,you will stop > > > > playing > > > > > > > such paediatric games... > > > > > > > > Shortcut methods,and " instant learning " is popular in > > > > > > > the US and abroad,it seems...with the help of a few > > examples > > > > which > > > > > > > suit their preconceived ideas,they will pronounce > > > > an " axiom " ,as it > > > > > > > were...only to sheepishly regret it sooner than later... ! > > > > > > > > We in India,do not to such " instant > > > > > > > research " ... > > > > > > > > Practice K.P., and LEARN K.P., by practical > > > > > > > experience...instead of seeking instant knowledge... > > > > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 tw853@ > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40> > > > > > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 6:36:54 PM > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems you don't know how to apply what you're saying > > > > practically > > > > > > > > in the life examples. You can say on yourself for the > > sake of > > > > > > > saying > > > > > > > > only. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear tw853, > > > > > > > > > Words and words...? Ha Ha Ha...Cannot be > > > > > > > > helped,if people refuse to understand and argue for > > > > arguments' > > > > > > > > sake... > > > > > > > > > A question which I had asked you earlier,and > > > > > > > > went unanswered is being repeated...Just what are you > > trying > > > > to > > > > > > > > prove ? > > > > > > > > > If you are keen to impress people that you have > > > > > > > > more than enough knowledge of K.P., just because you have > > > > already > > > > > > > > read various well-known books written by learned > > > > > > > K.P.stalwarts. ...I > > > > > > > > am not impressed... > > > > > > > > > Because, proper application and knowledge are > > > > > > > > two entirely different entities... > > > > > > > > > I have analysed and posted my analyses of very > > > > > > > > many Charts both,Horary and Natal...on many a > > forum...and I > > > > do not > > > > > > > > need any certificate from you...Simply because you said > > you > > > > are a > > > > > > > > beginner,I was just trying to help you learn K.P., > > > > better...from > > > > > > > > your mail it appears that you already kmow K.P., as much > > as > > > > > > > > a 'Pundit' should... > > > > > > > > > The best way to learn K.P., is to " do it > > > > > > > > yourself,if you make mistakes, > > > > > > > > > never mind,learn from them... > > > > > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 5:36:54 AM > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP > > > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why words and words again and never ever presenting > > > > something > > > > > > > > > practically? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you know somehting about those matters as your > > saying, > > > > why > > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > you show with this practical live example chart for the > > > > benefits > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > KP learners? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will understand my analysis if you read the books > > of > > > > > > > > Shanmugam, > > > > > > > > > Bhatt , K. Subramanium and K. Hariharan in respect of > > > > health and > > > > > > > > > miserable life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tin Win > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TW, > > > > > > > > > > I truly admire you for deftly trying to put the > > > > > > > > > ball back into my court...! > > > > > > > > > > As a matter of fact,if ,as you claim,you are a > > > > > > > > > learner...it will certainly be a very good exercise for > > > > you to > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > out which houses the s/l of the Ascendant signifies ... > > > > (even if > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > need to take the help of books...) > > > > > > > > > > It will firstly, help you to determine the level of > > > > > > > > > the horoscope,and secondly to especially enable you to > > > > assess as > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > what percentage of the benefits promised by a > > planet,the > > > > person > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > actually destined to enjoy...during it's > > > > > > > > > Dasa/Bhukti/ Antara/sookshma. ..etc. > > > > > > > > > > For example,if is exalted and signifies II & > > > > > > > > > XI...and in a favourable sub...will such a person gain > > a > > > > huge > > > > > > > > amount > > > > > > > > > of wealth ? If not to what extent...High, Middle,Low > > or the > > > > > > > Lowest > > > > > > > > > level...etc. ! Only K.P. can help you reveal > > this...and so > > > > on... > > > > > > > > > > And, for example,if it signifies I,V,IX and X along > > > > > > > > > with III & VIII,a long life is promised...if it > > signifies > > > > Badhaka > > > > > > > > > and Maraka Houses...a short life is seen...while if the > > > > s/l of I > > > > > > > > > signifies VI...one will be sickly...the sickness will > > > > begin or > > > > > > > > > worsen during the conjoint periods of the > > significators of > > > > I & > > > > > > > > > VI...and so on... > > > > > > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant gives a fair idea of the > > > > > > > > > general health of a person ...its not being a > > significator > > > > of > > > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > > > VI,VIII & XII ,shows GOOD health generally ... and so > > on... > > > > > > > > > > It is very important to first analyse the Lagna > > > > > > > > > thoroughly of any horoscope presented for analysis...as > > > > per our > > > > > > > > > revered Guruji KSK... > > > > > > > > > > I fervently hope you are doing this exercise with > > > > > > > > > every Birth Chart presented to you for your perusal and > > > > > > > analysis... > > > > > > > > > > Therefore Tin Winji,I am looking forward to your > > > > > > > > > analyses... > > > > > > > > > > Wishing you the very best... > > > > > > > > > > With kind regards, > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 8:13:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP > > > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Could you kindly present your analysis of the s/l > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Ascendant in depth for the benefits of all members of > > > > this > > > > > > > Group > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > discuss and learn something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I've done my part as a KP learner and now I > > request > > > > you as a > > > > > > > > KP > > > > > > > > > > Senior to do your part. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TW, > > > > > > > > > > > Excellent analysis indeed, but could you pl.analyse > > > > > > > > > > the s/l of the Ascendant in depth ? It should > > normally > > > > confirm > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > readings as being on the right track... > > > > > > > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant,assuming that the TOB is > > > > > > > > > > the exact one,that is...should indicate or atleast > > > > confirm all > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > findings... > > > > > > > > > > > What are your findings in this regard ? > > > > > > > > > > > It will be interesting to know...could you pl. > > > > > > > > > > throw some light on this ? > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in advance please... > > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 10:38:16 AM > > > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP > > > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DEPRESSION > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. 6th Sbl is Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. (Maha) Dasa lord Ra: 7; Asp Ju(3-1-10): Asp Sa+ > > (5- > > > > 11-12 & > > > > > > > > +2- > > > > > > > > > 4- > > > > > > > > > > 7- > > > > > > > > > > > 8); Stl Ma(2-9); Sgl Me(4-7) (Note: No planet is in > > > > the star > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Sa, > > > > > > > > > > > which is the Sbl of 2,4,7,8.) Ra is in the sub of > > Ju(3- > > > > 1-10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. The occupation of 6th Sbl Ra in 7th and its > > > > connection > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > (mental stability), 5 (intelligence, mental > > stability) > > > > and 9 > > > > > > > > > > (higher > > > > > > > > > > > mind) may cause mental aberration. (K. Subramaniam) > > > > The other > > > > > > > > > > > possible causes to depression are Asc (head) Conj > > Ke(7) > > > > > > > (Note: > > > > > > > > > No > > > > > > > > > > > planet is in the star of Ke, which is the Sbl of 9 > > > > sending > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > native to USA in its Bhukti.); Mo (emotional mind) > > > > Aspt by Sa > > > > > > > > > > > (depression, miseries, 7-2-8-12); Me (intelligent > > > > mind) Conj > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > (7- > > > > > > > > > > 2- > > > > > > > > > > > 6-8-12; 5th occupied by Sa, Ar (first rasi sign as > > > > head) Asp > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > > > and occupied by Ma(2-8); 6th Sbl Ra:8-12; 8th Sbl > > > > Sa+:8-12. > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > 12th Sbl Mo+: 6-12+. (Note: No planet is in the > > star > > > > of Mo, > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > the Sbl of 12.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra's signification of 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & > > Maraka), 2 > > > > > > > > (Maraka) > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > unfavorable for health. The repeated signification > > of > > > > 4th, > > > > > > > > i.e. > > > > > > > > > 12 > > > > > > > > > > > to 5th, is also no good for mental stability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. However, there are the relieving factors such > > as: no > > > > > > > > support > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > Ra's Sbl; Ra can not give it occupational result of > > > > 7th since > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > in its star. Ju's aspect (to Ra) alone is the > > > > exception to > > > > > > > > > relieve > > > > > > > > > > > the adverse effects of Badhaka. (Sri Shanmugam); > > Asc > > > > lord Ju > > > > > > > > Asp > > > > > > > > > > > 9th and Mo; Asc Sbl Ju: 2-3-9-1-10 in its own sub; > > 6th > > > > Sbl Ra > > > > > > > > > > > signifies also 1-5-11, 8th Sbl Sa+ signifies also > > 5-11 > > > > and > > > > > > > > 12th > > > > > > > > > > Sbl > > > > > > > > > > > Mo+ signifies also 11-5. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. From the above, the depression is expected to be > > > > gone > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa and no more in the coming Ju (Maha) Dasa since > > > > Ju: 2-3-9- > > > > > > > > 1- > > > > > > > > > 10 > > > > > > > > > > > in its own sub. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SETBACKS IN LIFE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. Dasa lord Ra: 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2 > > > > (Maraka) may > > > > > > > > > cause > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > miserable life during its Dasa. Another reason for > > the > > > > > > > failure > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > further higher study mi be due to a lack of 11th > > > > > > > signification > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > the 9th Sbl Ke and another lack of 9, 11th > > > > signification by > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > 11th Sbl Me. But 12th Sbl Mo+ signifies both bad > > > > houses 5-12+ > > > > > > > > > (bad > > > > > > > > > > > luck, loss of money , cheated) and good houses 6-11 > > > > (good > > > > > > > > luck) > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > most importantly does not signify 8, 7 (Badhaka & > > > > Maraka), 2 > > > > > > > > > > > (Maraka). And the life is expected to be much > > better > > > > and > > > > > > > > stable > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the Ju Dasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. The marriage is promised and more than one is > > > > indicated. > > > > > > > > Love > > > > > > > > > > > marriage is found. Delay and obstacles in marriage > > are > > > > > > > > indicated > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > Punarphoo (although cancelled by Dr. Kar's theory); > > > > Sa's > > > > > > > > > > occupation > > > > > > > > > > > of the 5th house aspecting 7, 11, 2 houses; > > connection > > > > of > > > > > > > > 2,4,7, > > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > by the same Sbl Sa (here 8th is disappointment, and > > > > 4th is 12 > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > > > of love affairs) and Ra in 7th house. (Mars Dosha > > is > > > > > > > cancelled > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > it has been found not working in KP by 2 studies > > of the > > > > > > > > hundreds > > > > > > > > > > AA > > > > > > > > > > > charts.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9. As a KP learner, hit or miss prediction is that > > job > > > > > > > > > betterment > > > > > > > > > > > can be expected in the current running Ra-Ve dasa, > > > > marriage > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Su dasa perhaps with difficulties and better > > life > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > coming > > > > > > > > > > > Ju dasa with a possibility of foreign job.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " > > <kdsips@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Mr Tin Win for such detailed reply.For the > > > > benefit > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > members I would requsets veterans to kindly share > > > > there > > > > > > > > > comments > > > > > > > > > > > > regarding the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > kds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " > > <tw853@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (3) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. CHART DATA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla, 03-07-1977, 00:05 AM, > > Chandigarh > > > > (UT), > > > > > > > > > 30N42, > > > > > > > > > > > > > 76E48, New KP Ayanamsa 23-27-10, Asc Pi 15- 40- > > 22, > > > > Sun > > > > > > > Dasa > > > > > > > > > Bal > > > > > > > > > > > 0Y- > > > > > > > > > > > > 0M- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. PAST EVENTS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Ra-Ra-Sa: July 1995, got admission in very > > > > reputed > > > > > > > engg > > > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Ra-Ju-Ra: June1999, managed to clear > > > > engineering with > > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra-Sa to Ra-Me-Me: appeared in IAS 3 times > > till > > > > July > > > > > > > > 2002 > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldn't clear it > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Ra-Me-Me: august 2002 to DEC 2003, worked > > in an > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > coaching > > > > > > > > > > > > > institute in > > > > > > > > > > > > > partnership with his teacher > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) Ra-Me-Ra: Dec 2003, his partner cheated with > > > > him and > > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > opt > > > > > > > > > > > > > out of this institute > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) Ra-Me-Ju: from Dec 2003 to April 2004, under > > > > huge > > > > > > > > > > depression, > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > idle and sitting in home > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) Ra-Me-Ra to Ra-Me-Ju: April 2004, got a > > (paper) > > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > proposal > > > > > > > > > > > > > from a daughter of IAS officer who was doing > > > > masters in > > > > > > > > > Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8) Ra-Ke-Ve: February 2005, got a marriage > > > > proposal from > > > > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > > > > > girl from Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9) Ra-Ke-Ve: march 2005, got the job in Airtel > > and > > > > worked > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > > > > > august 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10) Ra-Ke-Ju: august 15th 2005, left for USA > > and > > > > joined > > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > august 2005, however couldn't study there, > > stayed > > > > in USA > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > months and couldn't study at all > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11) Ra-Ve-Su: august 30th 2006, got divorce > > from > > > > the > > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12) Ra-Ve-Ma: January 2007, decided to come > > back to > > > > > > > India, > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > second girl didn't like this and broke off from > > > > the native > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today the native is on high dose of Anti > > > > depression > > > > > > > > > > drugs. > > > > > > > > > > > At > > > > > > > > > > > > > present he is doing job in Airtel again with > > > > salary of > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > Rs10000/. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. DASA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra: 03-07-1994 to 03-07-2012 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ra: 03-07-1994 to 14-03-1997 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ju: 15-03-1997 to 08-08-1999 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Sa: 09-08-1999 to 14-06-2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Me:15-06- 2002 to 31-12-2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ke: 01-01-2005 to 20-01-2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ve: 21-01-2006 to 20-01-2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Su: 21-01-2009 to 14-12-2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Mo: 15-12-2009 to 14-06-2011 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ma: 15-06-2011 to 03-07-2012 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju: 04-07-2012 to 03-07-2028 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Empty houses: 6, 8, 9, 10, 12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, > > > > Sa, Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets in own stars (*): Nil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra is aspected by Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa aspects 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ve: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ve is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Su: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma (2- > > 9); > > > > Asp by Ju > > > > > > > > (3- > > > > > > > > > > 10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Ve: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Mo+: 11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Mo is Ve: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ma: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ve: 2-8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ra: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ra is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Sa+: 5-12; Asp 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Sa is Su: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma (2- > > 9); > > > > Asp by Ju > > > > > > > > (3- > > > > > > > > > > 10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Me: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ju: 3-10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Me is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. QUESTIONS TO 4 STEP PRACTITIONERS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Why did such setbacks happen in the already > > > > passed > > > > > > > part > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maha dasa, which primarily signifies only 2-9 > > > > houses? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) How about the future prospects in the rest > > of > > > > Ra dasa > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > respect > > > > > > > > > > > > > of marriage, carrier and finance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) How can be differentiated the results in the > > > > coming Ju > > > > > > > > > dasa > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > compared to the present running Ju dasa since > > their > > > > > > > > primary > > > > > > > > > > > > > significators are exactly the same, i.e. only > > 2-9 > > > > houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. REQUEST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the benefit of all members of this Group, > > > > kindly > > > > > > > > sharing > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > expertise that has been taught and learned is > > > > humbly > > > > > > > > > requested > > > > > > > > > > > (not > > > > > > > > > > > > > free prediction which your Guruji didn't > > allow) by > > > > > > > > providing > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > necessary calculated data as above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tin Win > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks once again for your reply.Can you > > share > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > career as right now I am in huge career > > crisis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > > > ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not disclose how I do analysis. My 2 > > cents > > > > > > > advice > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that don't get married in rahu mahadasha. > > You > > > > will > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the remaining period of rahu mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter period will be the best period in > > your > > > > life > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Group members and Mr singh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually I am new to kp astrology.Can you > > > > elaborate > > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > virgo is badhak ,as far as marak is > > > > concerned I > > > > > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th house in marak. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also please shed some light on the fact > > why > > > > > > > marraige > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unconventional > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marraige(I mean to say marriage only on > > > > papers and > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumation) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > took place in rahu-mer, and why it broke > > of > > > > in rah- > > > > > > > > > > > venus.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > say what is the role of venus bhukti in > > rahu > > > > maha > > > > > > > > > dasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Why my second engagement took off > > after > > > > 2.5 > > > > > > > years > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sustenence ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) When will my career get settled, will > > it > > > > be in > > > > > > > > > > busines > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > job? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) why i had to leave my masters degree > > in > > > > b/w and > > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to india in jan 2007, i mean to say why I > > > > couldnt > > > > > > > > > achive > > > > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > distinction in studies during the whole > > rahu > > > > > > > > dasha???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > > > ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are pisces ascendant. In your chart > > > > Rahu is > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Virgo sign in a worst placement because > > > > 7th house > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > pisces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ascendant is both Badhaka and Maraka > > > > house. So > > > > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > acting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > badhaka and maraka planet for you. Also > > > > Rahu is > > > > > > > > > > aspected > > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of Jupiter on Rahu is very > > good > > > > so > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > Rahu- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > period from March 1997 to August 1999 > > must > > > > be > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that time were favorable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of 12th lord Saturn on Rahu > > is > > > > very > > > > > > > > bad, > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > period from august 1999 to June 2002 > > must > > > > be very > > > > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at that time were also unfavorable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also the 6th lord sun is in the > > nakshatra > > > > of > > > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you 6th house results during Rahu- Sun > > > > period in > > > > > > > > > 2009, > > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > health > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems or debts or separation in > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should not get married during rahu > > dasa > > > > > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > Your > > > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improve during Jupiter mahadasha after > > > > july 2012. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > > > ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Guruji ji and other group > > > > members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My name is khushdev ,I have joined > > this > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > recently.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system of astrology.I am in deep > > menatl > > > > pain , > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > requset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all to help me out of tis pain .My > > > > history is > > > > > > > > > > attached > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > below.Pls > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me out of this agony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name-Khushdev singla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth date- 03 july 1977 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time-00.05 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > place- chandigarh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 History > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am have been running the rahu dasha > > > > from mid > > > > > > > > > 1994 > > > > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having trouble in acedemics and > > career > > > > > > > > settlement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In july 1995 I got admission in very > > > > reputed > > > > > > > > engg > > > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > electrical stream.At that time I was > > > > suffering > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was put on depression pills by > > > > psychiatric. > > > > > > > > Though > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > GOT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ADMISSION , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I couldnt perform acedamically > > > > good .I used > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression and was unable to study at > > > > all.I > > > > > > > > > somehow > > > > > > > > > > > > > managed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my engineering with much difficulty > > in > > > > > > > > June1999.I > > > > > > > > > > > opted > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a job because i wanted to prepare > > > > for IAS > > > > > > > > > > exams.At > > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > antardasha of saturn started , I put > > > > myself > > > > > > > > wholly > > > > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > putting all my career at stake.I > > appread > > > > in IAS > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > july > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 but couldnt clear it , to my > > > > surprise the > > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting less marks than me in mock > > tests > > > > got > > > > > > > > > > > selected.My > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > failure > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a shock for me ,I opted to teach in > > an > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > coaching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > institute > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > partnership with my teacher.I worked > > > > there from > > > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dec > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2003.In dec 2003 my partner cheated > > with > > > > me and > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > opt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this institute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was job less and all my dreams were > > > > > > > > shattered,I > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > huge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression from dec 2003 to april > > > > 2004.During > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > time I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > idle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and was sitting in home.I even had > > > > feeling of > > > > > > > > > > > suicideTo > > > > > > > > > > > > > let > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my anti depression pilss were still > > > > continuing > > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > > 1994. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In april 2004 out of sudden I got a > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > proposal > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > daughter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of IAS officer who was doing masters > > in > > > > > > > > canada.She > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > india > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > few days and wanted to get married > > to a > > > > guy in > > > > > > > > > > > india.We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decided > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for paper marriage and did entered > > into > > > > > > > physical > > > > > > > > > > > relation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We made a resolution that we will > > enetr > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > physical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > relation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three months and will get formal > > > > ceremony done > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only.Meanwhile our plans were i will > > take > > > > > > > > > admission > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will do MTech from there.The girl > > left > > > > for > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months she decided to discontinue > > this > > > > > > > > > > relation.Since > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > paper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marriage so we had to take a formal > > > > divorce. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile I got a marriage proposal > > from > > > > some > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in feburary 2005.We got engaged I > > told > > > > her > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > prevous > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marraige > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so decided not to get married till my > > > > first > > > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > annulled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was selected by a university in > > USA to > > > > do > > > > > > > > MTech > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > join > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from july 2005.Meanwhile I got the > > job in > > > > > > > Airtel > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > march > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worked for Airtel till august 2005.I > > > > left for > > > > > > > > USA > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005.The second girl was so nice she > > > > cooperated > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > waited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for me so that my divorce is > > cleared.I > > > > joined > > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However i couldnt study there ,I > > stayed > > > > in usa > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldnt study at all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On august 30th 2006 I got divorce > > from > > > > the > > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > girl.By > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > january > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I decided to come back to India .The > > > > second > > > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > > > didnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she broke off from me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today I am on high dose of Anti > > > > depression > > > > > > > > > drugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My questions are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Career > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At present I am doing job in Airtel > > > > again with > > > > > > > > > > salary > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rs10000/.I sometimes feel misearble > > that > > > > after > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > > > > > study > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and doing BTech from reputed college > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and even going to USA for higher > > study > > > > why I am > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > lowly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terms of career. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you see in future for my > > career. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should I do business or job , will I > > be > > > > able to > > > > > > > > > rise > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heights > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > career > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Marriage when will I get > > married.How > > > > will be > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will my partner be from high status > > > > family or > > > > > > > > > not.I > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good proposals for marriage at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 Financial status how will be my > > > > financial > > > > > > > > > > > status.Some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology pandits say that after > > 2012 in > > > > my > > > > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > dasha > > > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rise like anything in career as it > > will > > > > be a > > > > > > > > dasha > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dashmesh.Is this true??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls help me out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Dear Tw ji, When the discussion reaches to the stage where we start posting personal profile from their website, to me it looks like it has gone beyond just proving this point. Now the forum policy on the names is clear, let us have no further discussion on it. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 7:17 AM, tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Punit Pandey ji,I'm not against or objecting any method. Like some others I'm interested in old and new methods and so I've studied some of them and presented the analysis with their own names. My point it not to miss up with KP name sticking to KP like a snail and to use its own name, otherwise it's confusing for members whether the analysis is by KP or by another method. Thanks and regards,tw , " Punit Pandey " <punitp wrote: >> Dear Tw ji,> > If you contribution has not been appreciated, I would not be spending so> much time replying your emails. I jumped in only when I saw that it is going> beyond the expected level. I could clearly see the violation of two of our> guiding points as follows -> > > · Any type of Personal attack, flaming, or profane language will not> be tolerated. Members, please focus only on the subject and not deviate or> go off tangents on provocative indecent behaviour or language.> > · Please don't try to prove superiority of one branch of astrology> over another. In this group, all branches should be treated with equal> respect. Respect for other branches is essential for research and> discussion.> (Taken from forum constitution file)> > Please post clearly what you didn't expect from the moderator? The critical> analysis of any method is always welcome. But to the standard it has reached> recently is neither appreciated not accepted.> > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 4:01 PM, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> > > Dear Punit Pandey ji,> >> > I've already told you I've nothing to say in this regard. If you asy> > so, who thouroughly studied this 4 step method and expalined clearly> > in this forum at one place for the learning for sure? Who did give a> > compilation of mesages to learn it? It is the same not expected from> > a moderator like you.> >> > Thanks and regards,> >> > tw> > > > <%40>, " Punit > > Pandey " <punitp@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tw ji,> > >> > > Instead of digging into old emails and searching for points> > related to> > > particular method, why can't we stop blaming and move on? Now as> > we have a> > > definition for stellar methods, why can't all those methods live> > together?> > > Quoting some sentence from an old email wihout the context presents> > > incorrect meaning. I don't know what is the intention here but for> > it is not> > > conductive for the learning for sure. It is not expected from a> > senior > > > member like you.> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 8:28 AM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > >> > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji,> > > >> > > > If this is your thinking without any particular reason, I've> > nothing> > > > to say. Regarding discussion, are allowed for that> > > > purpose.> > > >> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > >> > > > tw> > > >> > > > <% 40><% > > 40>, " Punit> >> > > > Pandey " <punitp@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Dear Tw ji,> > > > >> > > > > This is what I think. I think that 4-step is a good enough> > method> > > > and> > > > > deserve discussion and critical analysis in this forum. That> > is the> > > > > reason that we always remained open for the discussion on 4-> > step.> > > > >> > > > > Because you have quoted it amidst of KP / Non-KP discussion,> > it is> > > > important> > > > > to clarify that " comparative good " has nothing to do with the> > > > comparison> > > > > with KP. This is comparison with generally available > > astrological> > > > system and> > > > > should be taken in that context.> > > > >> > > > > I hope it answers your question.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > >> > > > > Punit Pandey> > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:59 PM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Moderator Punit Pandey ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Could you kindly elaborate why " 4 Step method is> > comparatively > > > > good " as> > > > > > you said below for the benefit of members and in order to> > move> > > > ahead from> > > > > > the prolonged Q & A stage of 4 step basic principles, which> > is> > > > already> > > > > > posted in the file section of this group under> > > > > >> > > > > > *A NOTE ON FOUR STEP > > > > THEORY.doc*<http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/QKPjRwcgEXqlcBWctdNQn-> > > > D6sDjG_T9vVCByUzxoeKIuwgwp7-o8DecWg1il1EGOmngy5oiIYWnHMTa- > > > > YX1jboUZEw/A%20NOTE%20ON%20FOUR%20STEP%20THEORY.doc>> > > >> > > > > > * *> > > > > > A STUDY NOTE ON FOUR STEP THEORY .> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > tw> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > <%40><% > > 40>,> > > > " Punit Pandey " <punitp@>> > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, Tw ji, Sunil ji and members,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I expect that all of us will maintain the decorum of the> > forum > > > > and> > > > > > > will focus on learning, NOT on proving or disproving> > something.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > All members involved here are senior members and I request> > > > everybody> > > > > > > to set example for other members.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 4 Step method is comparatively good and it is good to have> > a> > > > critical> > > > > > > analysis in an open forum. I am watching this thread very> > > > closely and> > > > > > > it seems that we have enough discussion. It is advised not> > to> > > > take it> > > > > > > further because it seems that we are deviating from the> > > > intention of> > > > > > > learning. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Punit Pandey> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > <%40><% > > 40>,> >> > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear tw,> > > > > > > > What you've written is undiluted rubbish...it> > > > > > > thoroughly reveals your " paediatric mindset " > > > > > > > > ...and,in any case,this kind of paediatric game> > of " baiting " > > > > will> > > > > > > not provoke me,Tin Win...try somewhere else ...Have you > > read> > > > Eric> > > > > > > Berne's very famous book... " Games people play " ? If> > not ,pl.> > > > do,and I> > > > > > > assure you,after perusing it you could discover yourself> > and> > > > also> > > > > > > exactly " what makes you tick " and hopefully,you will stop> > > > playing> > > > > > > such paediatric games... > > > > > > > > Shortcut methods,and " instant learning " is popular in> > > > > > > the US and abroad,it seems...with the help of a few> > examples> > > > which > > > > > > > suit their preconceived ideas,they will pronounce> > > > an " axiom " ,as it> > > > > > > were...only to sheepishly regret it sooner than later... !> > > > > > > > We in India,do not to such " instant> > > > > > > research " ...> > > > > > > > Practice K.P., and LEARN K.P., by practical > > > > > > > experience...instead of seeking instant knowledge...> > > > > > > > With best wishes,> > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 tw853@> > > > > > > > <% 40><%> > 40>> > > > > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 6:36:54 PM > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP> > PRACTICAL> > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > It seems you don't know how to apply what you're saying> > > > practically > > > > > > > > in the life examples. You can say on yourself for the> > sake of> > > > > > > saying> > > > > > > > only.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > tw> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..>> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear tw853,> > > > > > > > > Words and words...? Ha Ha Ha...Cannot be > > > > > > > > helped,if people refuse to understand and argue for> > > > arguments'> > > > > > > > sake...> > > > > > > > > A question which I had asked you earlier,and > > > > > > > > went unanswered is being repeated...Just what are you> > trying> > > > to> > > > > > > > prove ?> > > > > > > > > If you are keen to impress people that you have > > > > > > > > more than enough knowledge of K.P., just because you have> > > > already> > > > > > > > read various well-known books written by learned > > > > > > > K.P.stalwarts. ...I> > > > > > > > am not impressed...> > > > > > > > > Because, proper application and knowledge are> > > > > > > > two entirely different entities... > > > > > > > > > I have analysed and posted my analyses of very> > > > > > > > many Charts both,Horary and Natal...on many a> > forum...and I> > > > do not > > > > > > > > need any certificate from you...Simply because you said> > you> > > > are a> > > > > > > > beginner,I was just trying to help you learn K.P., > > > > better...from> > > > > > > > your mail it appears that you already kmow K.P., as much> > as> > > > > > > > a 'Pundit' should... > > > > > > > > > The best way to learn K.P., is to " do it> > > > > > > > yourself,if you make mistakes,> > > > > > > > > never mind,learn from them... > > > > > > > > > With best wishes,> > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 5:36:54 AM > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP> > > > PRACTICAL> > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Why words and words again and never ever presenting> > > > something > > > > > > > > > practically?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > If you know somehting about those matters as your> > saying, > > > > why> > > > > > > > don't> > > > > > > > > you show with this practical live example chart for the> > > > benefits> > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > KP learners?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > You will understand my analysis if you read the books> > of > > > > > > > > Shanmugam,> > > > > > > > > Bhatt , K. Subramanium and K. Hariharan in respect of> > > > health and> > > > > > > > > miserable life. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Tin Win> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi> > > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..>> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear TW,> > > > > > > > > > I truly admire you for deftly trying to put the> > > > > > > > > ball back into my court...! > > > > > > > > > > As a matter of fact,if ,as you claim,you are a> > > > > > > > > learner...it will certainly be a very good exercise for> > > > you to > > > > > > > > find> > > > > > > > > out which houses the s/l of the Ascendant signifies ...> > > > (even if> > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > need to take the help of books...)> > > > > > > > > > It will firstly, help you to determine the level of> > > > > > > > > the horoscope,and secondly to especially enable you to> > > > assess as> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > what percentage of the benefits promised by a> > planet,the> > > > person > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > actually destined to enjoy...during it's> > > > > > > > > Dasa/Bhukti/ Antara/sookshma. ..etc.> > > > > > > > > > For example,if is exalted and signifies II & > > > > > > > > > XI...and in a favourable sub...will such a person gain> > a> > > > huge> > > > > > > > amount> > > > > > > > > of wealth ? If not to what extent...High, Middle,Low> > or the> > > > > > > Lowest> > > > > > > > > level...etc. ! Only K.P. can help you reveal> > this...and so> > > > on... > > > > > > > > > > And, for example,if it signifies I,V,IX and X along> > > > > > > > > with III & VIII,a long life is promised...if it> > signifies > > > > Badhaka> > > > > > > > > and Maraka Houses...a short life is seen...while if the> > > > s/l of I> > > > > > > > > signifies VI...one will be sickly...the sickness will> > > > begin or> > > > > > > > > worsen during the conjoint periods of the> > significators of> > > > I & > > > > > > > > > VI...and so on... > > > > > > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant gives a fair idea of the> > > > > > > > > general health of a person ...its not being a> > significator > > > > of> > > > > > > > houses> > > > > > > > > VI,VIII & XII ,shows GOOD health generally ... and so> > on...> > > > > > > > > > It is very important to first analyse the Lagna > > > > > > > > > thoroughly of any horoscope presented for analysis...as> > > > per our> > > > > > > > > revered Guruji KSK...> > > > > > > > > > I fervently hope you are doing this exercise with > > > > > > > > > every Birth Chart presented to you for your perusal and> > > > > > > analysis...> > > > > > > > > > Therefore Tin Winji,I am looking forward to your > > > > > > > > > analyses...> > > > > > > > > > Wishing you the very best...> > > > > > > > > > With kind regards,> > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 8:13:02 PM> > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP> > > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Could you kindly present your analysis of the s/l> > of> > > > the> > > > > > > > > > Ascendant in depth for the benefits of all members of> > > > this> > > > > > > Group> > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > discuss and learn something.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I've done my part as a KP learner and now I> > request> > > > you as a> > > > > > > > KP> > > > > > > > > > Senior to do your part. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi> > > > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear TW,> > > > > > > > > > > Excellent analysis indeed, but could you pl.analyse> > > > > > > > > > the s/l of the Ascendant in depth ? It should> > normally> > > > confirm> > > > > > > > > your> > > > > > > > > > readings as being on the right track... > > > > > > > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant,assuming that the TOB is> > > > > > > > > > the exact one,that is...should indicate or atleast> > > > confirm all > > > > > > > > > your> > > > > > > > > > findings...> > > > > > > > > > > What are your findings in this regard ?> > > > > > > > > > > It will be interesting to know...could you pl. > > > > > > > > > > throw some light on this ?> > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in advance please...> > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 10:38:16 AM > > > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP> > > > PRACTICAL> > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > DEPRESSION> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 1. 6th Sbl is Ra. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 2. (Maha) Dasa lord Ra: 7; Asp Ju(3-1-10): Asp Sa+> > (5-> > > > 11-12 & > > > > > > > > +2-> > > > > > > > > 4-> > > > > > > > > > 7-> > > > > > > > > > > 8); Stl Ma(2-9); Sgl Me(4-7) (Note: No planet is in> > > > the star> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > Sa,> > > > > > > > > > > which is the Sbl of 2,4,7,8.) Ra is in the sub of> > Ju(3-> > > > 1-10)> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 3. The occupation of 6th Sbl Ra in 7th and its> > > > connection > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > 3> > > > > > > > > > > (mental stability), 5 (intelligence, mental> > stability)> > > > and 9 > > > > > > > > > > (higher> > > > > > > > > > > mind) may cause mental aberration. (K. Subramaniam)> > > > The other> > > > > > > > > > > possible causes to depression are Asc (head) Conj> > Ke(7)> > > > > > > (Note:> > > > > > > > > No> > > > > > > > > > > planet is in the star of Ke, which is the Sbl of 9> > > > sending> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > native to USA in its Bhukti.); Mo (emotional mind)> > > > Aspt by Sa > > > > > > > > > > > (depression, miseries, 7-2-8-12); Me (intelligent> > > > mind) Conj> > > > > > > Su> > > > > > > > > (7- > > > > > > > > > > 2-> > > > > > > > > > > 6-8-12; 5th occupied by Sa, Ar (first rasi sign as> > > > head) Asp> > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > Sa> > > > > > > > > > > and occupied by Ma(2-8); 6th Sbl Ra:8-12; 8th Sbl> > > > Sa+:8-12.> > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > 12th Sbl Mo+: 6-12+. (Note: No planet is in the> > star> > > > of Mo,> > > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > the Sbl of 12.)> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra's signification of 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & > > Maraka), 2> > > > > > > > (Maraka)> > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > unfavorable for health. The repeated signification> > of> > > > 4th,> > > > > > > > i.e.> > > > > > > > > 12> > > > > > > > > > > to 5th, is also no good for mental stability. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 5. However, there are the relieving factors such> > as: no> > > > > > > > support > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > Ra's Sbl; Ra can not give it occupational result of> > > > 7th since> > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > in its star. Ju's aspect (to Ra) alone is the> > > > exception to> > > > > > > > > relieve > > > > > > > > > > > the adverse effects of Badhaka. (Sri Shanmugam);> > Asc> > > > lord Ju> > > > > > > > Asp> > > > > > > > > > > 9th and Mo; Asc Sbl Ju: 2-3-9-1-10 in its own sub;> > 6th> > > > Sbl Ra> > > > > > > > > > > signifies also 1-5-11, 8th Sbl Sa+ signifies also> > 5-11> > > > and> > > > > > > > 12th > > > > > > > > > > Sbl> > > > > > > > > > > Mo+ signifies also 11-5.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 6. From the above, the depression is expected to be> > > > gone> > > > > > > after> > > > > > > > > Ra> > > > > > > > > > > Dasa and no more in the coming Ju (Maha) Dasa since> > > > Ju: 2-3-9-> > > > > > > > 1-> > > > > > > > > 10> > > > > > > > > > > in its own sub.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SETBACKS IN LIFE> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 7. Dasa lord Ra: 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2 > > > > (Maraka) may> > > > > > > > > cause> > > > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > > miserable life during its Dasa. Another reason for> > the> > > > > > > failure> > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > further higher study mi be due to a lack of 11th> > > > > > > signification> > > > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > > > the 9th Sbl Ke and another lack of 9, 11th> > > > signification by > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > 11th Sbl Me. But 12th Sbl Mo+ signifies both bad> > > > houses 5-12+> > > > > > > > > (bad > > > > > > > > > > > luck, loss of money , cheated) and good houses 6-11> > > > (good> > > > > > > > luck)> > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > most importantly does not signify 8, 7 (Badhaka & > > > > Maraka), 2> > > > > > > > > > > (Maraka). And the life is expected to be much > > better> > > > and> > > > > > > > stable> > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > the Ju Dasa.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. The marriage is promised and more than one is> > > > indicated.> > > > > > > > Love> > > > > > > > > > > marriage is found. Delay and obstacles in marriage> > are> > > > > > > > indicated> > > > > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > > > Punarphoo (although cancelled by Dr. Kar's theory);> > > > Sa's> > > > > > > > > > occupation> > > > > > > > > > > of the 5th house aspecting 7, 11, 2 houses;> > connection > > > > of> > > > > > > > 2,4,7,> > > > > > > > > 8> > > > > > > > > > > by the same Sbl Sa (here 8th is disappointment, and > > > > 4th is 12> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > 5th> > > > > > > > > > > of love affairs) and Ra in 7th house. (Mars Dosha> > is> > > > > > > cancelled> > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > it has been found not working in KP by 2 studies> > of the> > > > > > > > hundreds> > > > > > > > > > AA> > > > > > > > > > > charts.)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9. As a KP learner, hit or miss prediction is that> > job> > > > > > > > > betterment> > > > > > > > > > > can be expected in the current running Ra-Ve dasa,> > > > marriage> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Su dasa perhaps with difficulties and better > > life> > > > in the> > > > > > > > > coming> > > > > > > > > > > Ju dasa with a possibility of foreign job..> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck!> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " > > <kdsips@>> > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Mr Tin Win for such detailed reply.For the> > > > benefit> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > group> > > > > > > > > > > > members I would requsets veterans to kindly share> > > > there> > > > > > > > > comments> > > > > > > > > > > > regarding the same.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > kds> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " > > <tw853@>> > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (3) > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. CHART DATA> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla, 03-07-1977, 00:05 AM, > > Chandigarh> > > > (UT),> > > > > > > > > 30N42,> > > > > > > > > > > > > 76E48, New KP Ayanamsa 23-27-10, Asc Pi 15-40- > > 22,> > > > Sun> > > > > > > Dasa> > > > > > > > > Bal> > > > > > > > > > > 0Y-> > > > > > > > > > > > 0M- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0D> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. PAST EVENTS > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Ra-Ra-Sa: July 1995, got admission in very> > > > reputed> > > > > > > engg > > > > > > > > > > > college> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Ra-Ju-Ra: June1999, managed to clear> > > > engineering with> > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulty> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra-Sa to Ra-Me-Me: appeared in IAS 3 times> > till> > > > July > > > > > > > > 2002> > > > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > > > > couldn't clear it> > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Ra-Me-Me: august 2002 to DEC 2003, worked> > in an> > > > IAS> > > > > > > > > > coaching> > > > > > > > > > > > > institute in> > > > > > > > > > > > > partnership with his teacher > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) Ra-Me-Ra: Dec 2003, his partner cheated with> > > > him and> > > > > > > > had> > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > opt> > > > > > > > > > > > > out of this institute> > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) Ra-Me-Ju: from Dec 2003 to April 2004, under> > > > huge> > > > > > > > > > depression,> > > > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > idle and sitting in home > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) Ra-Me-Ra to Ra-Me-Ju: April 2004, got a> > (paper)> > > > > > > > marriage> > > > > > > > > > > > proposal > > > > > > > > > > > > > from a daughter of IAS officer who was doing> > > > masters in> > > > > > > > > Canada> > > > > > > > > > > > > 8) Ra-Ke-Ve: February 2005, got a marriage > > > > proposal from> > > > > > > > > > another> > > > > > > > > > > > > girl from Canada> > > > > > > > > > > > > 9) Ra-Ke-Ve: march 2005, got the job in Airtel> > and> > > > worked> > > > > > > > > > there> > > > > > > > > > > > till> > > > > > > > > > > > > august 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10) Ra-Ke-Ju: august 15th 2005, left for USA> > and> > > > joined> > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > august 2005, however couldn't study there,> > stayed> > > > in USA > > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > 18> > > > > > > > > > > > > months and couldn't study at all> > > > > > > > > > > > > 11) Ra-Ve-Su: august 30th 2006, got divorce > > from> > > > the> > > > > > > first> > > > > > > > > girl> > > > > > > > > > > > > 12) Ra-Ve-Ma: January 2007, decided to come > > back to> > > > > > > India,> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > second girl didn't like this and broke off from> > > > the native> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today the native is on high dose of Anti > > > > depression> > > > > > > > > > drugs.> > > > > > > > > > > At> > > > > > > > > > > > > present he is doing job in Airtel again with> > > > salary of> > > > > > > > only> > > > > > > > > > > > Rs10000/.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. DASA> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra: 03-07-1994 to 03-07-2012 > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ra: 03-07-1994 to 14-03-1997> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ju: 15-03-1997 to 08-08-1999 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Sa: 09-08-1999 to 14-06-2002> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Me:15-06- 2002 to 31-12-2004> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ke: 01-01-2005 to 20-01-2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ve: 21-01-2006 to 20-01-2009> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Su: 21-01-2009 to 14-12-2009> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Mo: 15-12-2009 to 14-06-2011 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ma: 15-06-2011 to 03-07-2012> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju: 04-07-2012 to 03-07-2028 > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Empty houses: 6, 8, 9, 10, 12> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo,> > > > Sa, Ke> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets in own stars (*): Nil > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra is aspected by Ju> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa aspects 2> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Ju:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ve:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ve is Ju:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Su:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma(2-> > 9);> > > > Asp by Ju > > > > > > > > (3-> > > > > > > > > > 10)> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Ve:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Mo+: 11> > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Mo is Ve:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ma:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ve: 2-8> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10) > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4> > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ra: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ra is Ju:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ju:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Ju:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Sa+: 5-12; Asp 2> > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 4> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Sa is Su: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma(2-> > 9);> > > > Asp by Ju> > > > > > > > (3-> > > > > > > > > > 10) > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Me:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ju: 3-10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Me is Ju:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. QUESTIONS TO 4 STEP PRACTITIONERS> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Why did such setbacks happen in the already> > > > passed> > > > > > > part> > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > Ra> > > > > > > > > > > > > Maha dasa, which primarily signifies only 2-9> > > > houses?> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) How about the future prospects in the rest > > of> > > > Ra dasa> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > respect> > > > > > > > > > > > > of marriage, carrier and finance? > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) How can be differentiated the results in the> > > > coming Ju > > > > > > > > > dasa> > > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > compared to the present running Ju dasa since> > their> > > > > > > > primary> > > > > > > > > > > > > significators are exactly the same, i.e. only> > 2-9> > > > houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. REQUEST> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > For the benefit of all members of this Group,> > > > kindly> > > > > > > > sharing> > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > your> > > > > > > > > > > > > expertise that has been taught and learned is> > > > humbly> > > > > > > > > requested> > > > > > > > > > > (not> > > > > > > > > > > > > free prediction which your Guruji didn't > > allow) by> > > > > > > > providing> > > > > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > > > > necessary calculated data as above. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tin Win> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > <kdsips@>> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks once again for your reply.Can you> > share> > > > > > > something> > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > > > > > > > career as right now I am in huge career> > crisis.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > > > ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not disclose how I do analysis. My 2> > cents> > > > > > > advice> > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that don't get married in rahu mahadasha.> > You> > > > will> > > > > > > see> > > > > > > > > > more> > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the remaining period of rahu mahadasha.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter period will be the best period in> > your> > > > life> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > every> > > > > > > > > > > > way.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro> > ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Group members and Mr singh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually I am new to kp astrology.Can you > > > > elaborate> > > > > > > > > how> > > > > > > > > > > rahu> > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > virgo is badhak ,as far as marak is > > > > concerned I> > > > > > > > > > understand> > > > > > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th house in marak.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also please shed some light on the fact> > why> > > > > > > marraige> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unconventional> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marraige(I mean to say marriage only on> > > > papers and> > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumation)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > took place in rahu-mer, and why it broke> > of> > > > in rah-> > > > > > > > > > > venus.I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > say what is the role of venus bhukti in> > rahu> > > > maha> > > > > > > > > dasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Why my second engagement took off> > after> > > > 2.5> > > > > > > years> > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sustenence ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) When will my career get settled, will> > it > > > > be in> > > > > > > > > > busines> > > > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > > > job? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) why i had to leave my masters degree> > in > > > > b/w and> > > > > > > > had> > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > came> > > > > > > > > > > > > > back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to india in jan 2007, i mean to say why I> > > > couldnt> > > > > > > > > achive> > > > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > distinction in studies during the whole> > rahu> > > > > > > > dasha????> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > > > ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are pisces ascendant. In your chart> > > > Rahu is> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Virgo sign in a worst placement because> > > > 7th house> > > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > > > pisces> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ascendant is both Badhaka and Maraka> > > > house. So> > > > > > > > Rahu> > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > acting> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > badhaka and maraka planet for you. Also> > > > Rahu is> > > > > > > > > > aspected > > > > > > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of Jupiter on Rahu is very> > good > > > > so> > > > > > > your> > > > > > > > > > Rahu-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > period from March 1997 to August 1999> > must> > > > be> > > > > > > good> > > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that time were favorable.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of 12th lord Saturn on Rahu> > is> > > > very> > > > > > > > bad, > > > > > > > > > so> > > > > > > > > > > Rahu-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > period from august 1999 to June 2002> > must> > > > be very> > > > > > > > > bad> > > > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transits> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at that time were also unfavorable.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also the 6th lord sun is in the> > nakshatra> > > > of> > > > > > > rahu,> > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > rahu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you 6th house results during Rahu-Sun> > > > period in> > > > > > > > > 2009,> > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > health> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems or debts or separation in> > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should not get married during rahu> > dasa > > > > > > > again.> > > > > > > > > > Your> > > > > > > > > > > > life> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improve during Jupiter mahadasha after> > > > july 2012.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro> > > > ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Guruji ji and other group > > > > members,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My name is khushdev ,I have joined> > this> > > > group> > > > > > > > > > > recently.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > am> > > > > > > > > > > > > > new> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kp> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system of astrology.I am in deep> > menatl > > > > pain ,> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > requset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all to help me out of tis pain .My > > > > history is> > > > > > > > > > attached> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > below.Pls> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me out of this agony.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name-Khushdev singla> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth date- 03 july 1977 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time-00.05 am> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > place- chandigarh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 History> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am have been running the rahu dasha> > > > from mid> > > > > > > > > 1994> > > > > > > > > > > since> > > > > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > am> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having trouble in acedemics and > > career> > > > > > > > settlement.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In july 1995 I got admission in very> > > > reputed > > > > > > > > engg> > > > > > > > > > > college> > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > electrical stream.At that time I was> > > > suffering> > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was put on depression pills by> > > > psychiatric.> > > > > > > > Though> > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > GOT> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ADMISSION ,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I couldnt perform acedamically> > > > good .I used> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression and was unable to study at> > > > all.I> > > > > > > > > somehow> > > > > > > > > > > > > managed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clear> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my engineering with much difficulty> > in> > > > > > > > June1999.I> > > > > > > > > > > opted> > > > > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a job because i wanted to prepare > > > > for IAS> > > > > > > > > > exams.At> > > > > > > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > antardasha of saturn started , I put> > > > myself > > > > > > > > wholly> > > > > > > > > > > into> > > > > > > > > > > > > IAS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > putting all my career at stake.I> > appread> > > > in IAS> > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > time> > > > > > > > > > > > > > till> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > july > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 but couldnt clear it , to my> > > > surprise the> > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > who> > > > > > > > > > > > > > were> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting less marks than me in mock> > tests> > > > got> > > > > > > > > > > selected.My> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > failure> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a shock for me ,I opted to teach in> > an> > > > IAS> > > > > > > > > coaching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > institute> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > partnership with my teacher.I worked> > > > there from> > > > > > > > > > august> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dec> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2003.In dec 2003 my partner cheated> > with > > > > me and> > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > opt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this institute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was job less and all my dreams were> > > > > > > > shattered,I> > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > under> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > huge> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression from dec 2003 to april > > > > 2004.During> > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > > time I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > idle> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and was sitting in home.I even had> > > > feeling of > > > > > > > > > > > suicideTo> > > > > > > > > > > > > let> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my anti depression pilss were still> > > > continuing> > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > > 1994.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In april 2004 out of sudden I got a> > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > proposal> > > > > > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > daughter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of IAS officer who was doing masters> > in> > > > > > > > canada.She> > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > india> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > few days and wanted to get married> > to a> > > > guy in> > > > > > > > > > > india.We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decided> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for paper marriage and did entered> > into> > > > > > > physical> > > > > > > > > > > relation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We made a resolution that we will> > enetr> > > > into> > > > > > > > > > physical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > relation> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three months and will get formal > > > > ceremony done> > > > > > > > at> > > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > > time> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only.Meanwhile our plans were i will> > take> > > > > > > > > admission> > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > canada> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will do MTech from there.The girl> > left> > > > for> > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > after> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months she decided to discontinue > > this> > > > > > > > > > relation.Since> > > > > > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > paper> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marriage so we had to take a formal > > > > divorce.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile I got a marriage proposal> > from> > > > some> > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > girl> > > > > > > > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in feburary 2005.We got engaged I> > told> > > > her> > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > prevous> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marraige> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so decided not to get married till my> > > > first> > > > > > > > > marriage> > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > annulled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was selected by a university in> > USA to> > > > do> > > > > > > > MTech > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > join > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from july 2005.Meanwhile I got the> > job in> > > > > > > Airtel> > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > march> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005.I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worked for Airtel till august 2005.I> > > > left for> > > > > > > > USA> > > > > > > > > on> > > > > > > > > > > > > august> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005.The second girl was so nice she> > > > cooperated> > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > me> > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > waited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for me so that my divorce is> > cleared.I> > > > joined> > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > august> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However i couldnt study there ,I> > stayed> > > > in usa> > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > 18> > > > > > > > > > > > > months> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldnt study at all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On august 30th 2006 I got divorce> > from> > > > the> > > > > > > first> > > > > > > > > > > girl.By > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > january> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2007> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I decided to come back to India .The> > > > second> > > > > > > girl> > > > > > > > > > didnt> > > > > > > > > > > > > like> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she broke off from me.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today I am on high dose of Anti> > > > depression> > > > > > > > > drugs> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My questions are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Career> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At present I am doing job in Airtel> > > > again with> > > > > > > > > > salary> > > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rs10000/.I sometimes feel misearble> > that> > > > after> > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > much> > > > > > > > > > > > > study> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and doing BTech from reputed college> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and even going to USA for higher > > study> > > > why I am> > > > > > > > so> > > > > > > > > > > lowly> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terms of career.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you see in future for my > > career.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should I do business or job , will I> > be> > > > able to> > > > > > > > > rise > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > heights> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > career> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Marriage when will I get> > married.How > > > > will be> > > > > > > > my> > > > > > > > > > > > > > married> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will my partner be from high status> > > > family or> > > > > > > > > not.I> > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good proposals for marriage at all.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 Financial status how will be my> > > > financial> > > > > > > > > > > status.Some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology pandits say that after> > 2012 in > > > > my> > > > > > > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > > > > > dasha> > > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rise like anything in career as it> > will > > > > be a> > > > > > > > dasha> > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnesh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dashmesh.Is this true???> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls help me out.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 09876154877> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now,> > on> > > > > > > > > > http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/> > > > tools/tools-> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 08.html/> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message > > archive> > > > > > > > > online at http://in.messenger ./> > webmessengerprom> > > > o.php > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Go to> > > ....[Message clipped] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Dear Moderator Punit Pandey ji, Okay, no further discussion here and there, what is this group for? Only to listen what you want to say? Thanks and regards, tw , " Punit Pandey " <punitp wrote: > > Dear Tw ji, > > When the discussion reaches to the stage where we start posting personal > profile from their website, to me it looks like it has gone beyond just > proving this point. Now the forum policy on the names is clear, let us have > no further discussion on it. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 7:17 AM, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji, > > > > I'm not against or objecting any method. Like some others I'm > > interested in old and new methods and so I've studied some of them > > and presented the analysis with their own names. My point it not to > > miss up with KP name sticking to KP like a snail and to use its own > > name, otherwise it's confusing for members whether the analysis is > > by KP or by another method. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > <% 40>, " Punit > > Pandey " <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tw ji, > > > > > > If you contribution has not been appreciated, I would not be > > spending so > > > much time replying your emails. I jumped in only when I saw that > > it is going > > > beyond the expected level. I could clearly see the violation of > > two of our > > > guiding points as follows - > > > > > > > > > · Any type of Personal attack, flaming, or profane > > language will not > > > be tolerated. Members, please focus only on the subject and not > > deviate or > > > go off tangents on provocative indecent behaviour or language. > > > > > > · Please don't try to prove superiority of one branch of > > astrology > > > over another. In this group, all branches should be treated with > > equal > > > respect. Respect for other branches is essential for research and > > > discussion. > > > (Taken from forum constitution file) > > > > > > Please post clearly what you didn't expect from the moderator? The > > critical > > > analysis of any method is always welcome. But to the standard it > > has reached > > > recently is neither appreciated not accepted. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 4:01 PM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji, > > > > > > > > I've already told you I've nothing to say in this regard. If you > > asy > > > > so, who thouroughly studied this 4 step method and expalined > > clearly > > > > in this forum at one place for the learning for sure? Who did > > give a > > > > compilation of mesages to learn it? It is the same not expected > > from > > > > a moderator like you. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40>, " Punit > > > > Pandey " <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tw ji, > > > > > > > > > > Instead of digging into old emails and searching for points > > > > related to > > > > > particular method, why can't we stop blaming and move on? Now > > as > > > > we have a > > > > > definition for stellar methods, why can't all those methods > > live > > > > together? > > > > > Quoting some sentence from an old email wihout the context > > presents > > > > > incorrect meaning. I don't know what is the intention here but > > for > > > > it is not > > > > > conductive for the learning for sure. It is not expected from a > > > > senior > > > > > member like you. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 8:28 AM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > If this is your thinking without any particular reason, I've > > > > nothing > > > > > > to say. Regarding discussion, are allowed for > > that > > > > > > purpose. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40><% > > > > > > 40>, " Punit > > > > > > > > > > Pandey " <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tw ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is what I think. I think that 4-step is a good enough > > > > method > > > > > > and > > > > > > > deserve discussion and critical analysis in this forum. > > That > > > > is the > > > > > > > reason that we always remained open for the discussion on > > 4- > > > > step. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because you have quoted it amidst of KP / Non-KP > > discussion, > > > > it is > > > > > > important > > > > > > > to clarify that " comparative good " has nothing to do with > > the > > > > > > comparison > > > > > > > with KP. This is comparison with generally available > > > > astrological > > > > > > system and > > > > > > > should be taken in that context. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope it answers your question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:59 PM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Moderator Punit Pandey ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you kindly elaborate why " 4 Step method is > > > > comparatively > > > > > > good " as > > > > > > > > you said below for the benefit of members and in order to > > > > move > > > > > > ahead from > > > > > > > > the prolonged Q & A stage of 4 step basic principles, > > which > > > > is > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > posted in the file section of this group under > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *A NOTE ON FOUR STEP > > > > > > > > THEORY.doc*<http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/QKPjRwcgEXqlcBWctdNQn- > > > > > > D6sDjG_T9vVCByUzxoeKIuwgwp7- o8DecWg1il1EGOmngy5oiIYWnHMTa- > > > > > > YX1jboUZEw/A%20NOTE%20ON%20FOUR%20STEP%20THEORY.doc> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * > > > > > > > > A STUDY NOTE ON FOUR STEP THEORY . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40><% > > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > " Punit Pandey " <punitp@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, Tw ji, Sunil ji and members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I expect that all of us will maintain the decorum of > > the > > > > forum > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > will focus on learning, NOT on proving or disproving > > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All members involved here are senior members and I > > request > > > > > > everybody > > > > > > > > > to set example for other members. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 Step method is comparatively good and it is good to > > have > > > > a > > > > > > critical > > > > > > > > > analysis in an open forum. I am watching this thread > > very > > > > > > closely and > > > > > > > > > it seems that we have enough discussion. It is advised > > not > > > > to > > > > > > take it > > > > > > > > > further because it seems that we are deviating from the > > > > > > intention of > > > > > > > > > learning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40><% > > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@ > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear tw, > > > > > > > > > > What you've written is undiluted rubbish...it > > > > > > > > > thoroughly reveals your " paediatric mindset " > > > > > > > > > > ...and,in any case,this kind of paediatric game > > > > of " baiting " > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > not provoke me,Tin Win...try somewhere else ...Have you > > > > read > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > Berne's very famous book... " Games people play " ? If > > > > not ,pl. > > > > > > do,and I > > > > > > > > > assure you,after perusing it you could discover > > yourself > > > > and > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > exactly " what makes you tick " and hopefully,you will > > stop > > > > > > playing > > > > > > > > > such paediatric games... > > > > > > > > > > Shortcut methods,and " instant learning " is popular in > > > > > > > > > the US and abroad,it seems...with the help of a few > > > > examples > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > suit their preconceived ideas,they will pronounce > > > > > > an " axiom " ,as it > > > > > > > > > were...only to sheepishly regret it sooner than > > later... ! > > > > > > > > > > We in India,do not to such " instant > > > > > > > > > research " ... > > > > > > > > > > Practice K.P., and LEARN K.P., by practical > > > > > > > > > experience...instead of seeking instant knowledge... > > > > > > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 tw853@ > > > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40><% > > > > 40> > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 6:36:54 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP > > > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems you don't know how to apply what you're > > saying > > > > > > practically > > > > > > > > > > in the life examples. You can say on yourself for the > > > > sake of > > > > > > > > > saying > > > > > > > > > > only. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear tw853, > > > > > > > > > > > Words and words...? Ha Ha Ha...Cannot be > > > > > > > > > > helped,if people refuse to understand and argue for > > > > > > arguments' > > > > > > > > > > sake... > > > > > > > > > > > A question which I had asked you earlier,and > > > > > > > > > > went unanswered is being repeated...Just what are you > > > > trying > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > prove ? > > > > > > > > > > > If you are keen to impress people that you have > > > > > > > > > > more than enough knowledge of K.P., just because you > > have > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > > read various well-known books written by learned > > > > > > > > > K.P.stalwarts. ...I > > > > > > > > > > am not impressed... > > > > > > > > > > > Because, proper application and knowledge are > > > > > > > > > > two entirely different entities... > > > > > > > > > > > I have analysed and posted my analyses of very > > > > > > > > > > many Charts both,Horary and Natal...on many a > > > > forum...and I > > > > > > do not > > > > > > > > > > need any certificate from you...Simply because you > > said > > > > you > > > > > > are a > > > > > > > > > > beginner,I was just trying to help you learn K.P., > > > > > > better...from > > > > > > > > > > your mail it appears that you already kmow K.P., as > > much > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > a 'Pundit' should... > > > > > > > > > > > The best way to learn K.P., is to " do it > > > > > > > > > > yourself,if you make mistakes, > > > > > > > > > > > never mind,learn from them... > > > > > > > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 5:36:54 AM > > > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP > > > > > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why words and words again and never ever presenting > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > > > practically? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you know somehting about those matters as your > > > > saying, > > > > > > why > > > > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > > > you show with this practical live example chart > > for the > > > > > > benefits > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > KP learners? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will understand my analysis if you read the > > books > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Shanmugam, > > > > > > > > > > > Bhatt , K. Subramanium and K. Hariharan in respect > > of > > > > > > health and > > > > > > > > > > > miserable life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tin Win > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao > > Lajmi > > > > > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TW, > > > > > > > > > > > > I truly admire you for deftly trying to put the > > > > > > > > > > > ball back into my court...! > > > > > > > > > > > > As a matter of fact,if ,as you claim,you are a > > > > > > > > > > > learner...it will certainly be a very good > > exercise for > > > > > > you to > > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > out which houses the s/l of the Ascendant > > signifies ... > > > > > > (even if > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > need to take the help of books...) > > > > > > > > > > > > It will firstly, help you to determine the level > > of > > > > > > > > > > > the horoscope,and secondly to especially enable > > you to > > > > > > assess as > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > what percentage of the benefits promised by a > > > > planet,the > > > > > > person > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > actually destined to enjoy...during it's > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa/Bhukti/ Antara/sookshma. ..etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > For example,if is exalted and signifies II & > > > > > > > > > > > XI...and in a favourable sub...will such a person > > gain > > > > a > > > > > > huge > > > > > > > > > > amount > > > > > > > > > > > of wealth ? If not to what extent...High, > > Middle,Low > > > > or the > > > > > > > > > Lowest > > > > > > > > > > > level...etc. ! Only K.P. can help you reveal > > > > this...and so > > > > > > on... > > > > > > > > > > > > And, for example,if it signifies I,V,IX and X > > along > > > > > > > > > > > with III & VIII,a long life is promised...if it > > > > signifies > > > > > > Badhaka > > > > > > > > > > > and Maraka Houses...a short life is seen...while > > if the > > > > > > s/l of I > > > > > > > > > > > signifies VI...one will be sickly...the sickness > > will > > > > > > begin or > > > > > > > > > > > worsen during the conjoint periods of the > > > > significators of > > > > > > I & > > > > > > > > > > > VI...and so on... > > > > > > > > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant gives a fair idea of the > > > > > > > > > > > general health of a person ...its not being a > > > > significator > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > > > > > VI,VIII & XII ,shows GOOD health generally ... and > > so > > > > on... > > > > > > > > > > > > It is very important to first analyse the Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > thoroughly of any horoscope presented for > > analysis...as > > > > > > per our > > > > > > > > > > > revered Guruji KSK... > > > > > > > > > > > > I fervently hope you are doing this exercise with > > > > > > > > > > > every Birth Chart presented to you for your > > perusal and > > > > > > > > > analysis... > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore Tin Winji,I am looking forward to your > > > > > > > > > > > analyses... > > > > > > > > > > > > Wishing you the very best... > > > > > > > > > > > > With kind regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 8:13:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 > > STEP > > > > > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Could you kindly present your analysis of the > > s/l > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > Ascendant in depth for the benefits of all > > members of > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > Group > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > discuss and learn something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I've done my part as a KP learner and now I > > > > request > > > > > > you as a > > > > > > > > > > KP > > > > > > > > > > > > Senior to do your part. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao > > Lajmi > > > > > > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TW, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Excellent analysis indeed, but could you > > pl.analyse > > > > > > > > > > > > the s/l of the Ascendant in depth ? It should > > > > normally > > > > > > confirm > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > readings as being on the right track... > > > > > > > > > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant,assuming that the TOB > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > the exact one,that is...should indicate or > > atleast > > > > > > confirm all > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > findings... > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are your findings in this regard ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will be interesting to know...could you pl. > > > > > > > > > > > > throw some light on this ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in advance please... > > > > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 10:38:16 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 > > STEP > > > > > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DEPRESSION > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. 6th Sbl is Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. (Maha) Dasa lord Ra: 7; Asp Ju(3-1-10): Asp > > Sa+ > > > > (5- > > > > > > 11-12 & > > > > > > > > > > +2- > > > > > > > > > > > 4- > > > > > > > > > > > > 7- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8); Stl Ma(2-9); Sgl Me(4-7) (Note: No planet > > is in > > > > > > the star > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa, > > > > > > > > > > > > > which is the Sbl of 2,4,7,8.) Ra is in the sub > > of > > > > Ju(3- > > > > > > 1-10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. The occupation of 6th Sbl Ra in 7th and its > > > > > > connection > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > (mental stability), 5 (intelligence, mental > > > > stability) > > > > > > and 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > (higher > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind) may cause mental aberration. (K. > > Subramaniam) > > > > > > The other > > > > > > > > > > > > > possible causes to depression are Asc (head) > > Conj > > > > Ke(7) > > > > > > > > > (Note: > > > > > > > > > > > No > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet is in the star of Ke, which is the Sbl > > of 9 > > > > > > sending > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > native to USA in its Bhukti.); Mo (emotional > > mind) > > > > > > Aspt by Sa > > > > > > > > > > > > > (depression, miseries, 7-2-8-12); Me > > (intelligent > > > > > > mind) Conj > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > (7- > > > > > > > > > > > > 2- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6-8-12; 5th occupied by Sa, Ar (first rasi > > sign as > > > > > > head) Asp > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > > > > > and occupied by Ma(2-8); 6th Sbl Ra:8-12; 8th > > Sbl > > > > > > Sa+:8-12. > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th Sbl Mo+: 6-12+. (Note: No planet is in the > > > > star > > > > > > of Mo, > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Sbl of 12.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra's signification of 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & > > > > Maraka), 2 > > > > > > > > > > (Maraka) > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > unfavorable for health. The repeated > > signification > > > > of > > > > > > 4th, > > > > > > > > > > i.e. > > > > > > > > > > > 12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > to 5th, is also no good for mental stability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. However, there are the relieving factors > > such > > > > as: no > > > > > > > > > > support > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra's Sbl; Ra can not give it occupational > > result of > > > > > > 7th since > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > in its star. Ju's aspect (to Ra) alone is the > > > > > > exception to > > > > > > > > > > > relieve > > > > > > > > > > > > > the adverse effects of Badhaka. (Sri > > Shanmugam); > > > > Asc > > > > > > lord Ju > > > > > > > > > > Asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th and Mo; Asc Sbl Ju: 2-3-9-1-10 in its own > > sub; > > > > 6th > > > > > > Sbl Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > > signifies also 1-5-11, 8th Sbl Sa+ signifies > > also > > > > 5-11 > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > 12th > > > > > > > > > > > > Sbl > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo+ signifies also 11-5. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. From the above, the depression is expected > > to be > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa and no more in the coming Ju (Maha) Dasa > > since > > > > > > Ju: 2-3-9- > > > > > > > > > > 1- > > > > > > > > > > > 10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > in its own sub. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SETBACKS IN LIFE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. Dasa lord Ra: 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2 > > > > > > (Maraka) may > > > > > > > > > > > cause > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > miserable life during its Dasa. Another reason > > for > > > > the > > > > > > > > > failure > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > further higher study mi be due to a lack of > > 11th > > > > > > > > > signification > > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 9th Sbl Ke and another lack of 9, 11th > > > > > > signification by > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11th Sbl Me. But 12th Sbl Mo+ signifies both > > bad > > > > > > houses 5-12+ > > > > > > > > > > > (bad > > > > > > > > > > > > > luck, loss of money , cheated) and good houses > > 6-11 > > > > > > (good > > > > > > > > > > luck) > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > most importantly does not signify 8, 7 > > (Badhaka & > > > > > > Maraka), 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Maraka). And the life is expected to be much > > > > better > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > stable > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Ju Dasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. The marriage is promised and more than one > > is > > > > > > indicated. > > > > > > > > > > Love > > > > > > > > > > > > > marriage is found. Delay and obstacles in > > marriage > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > indicated > > > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > Punarphoo (although cancelled by Dr. Kar's > > theory); > > > > > > Sa's > > > > > > > > > > > > occupation > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the 5th house aspecting 7, 11, 2 houses; > > > > connection > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > 2,4,7, > > > > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > by the same Sbl Sa (here 8th is > > disappointment, and > > > > > > 4th is 12 > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > of love affairs) and Ra in 7th house. (Mars > > Dosha > > > > is > > > > > > > > > cancelled > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > it has been found not working in KP by 2 > > studies > > > > of the > > > > > > > > > > hundreds > > > > > > > > > > > > AA > > > > > > > > > > > > > charts.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9. As a KP learner, hit or miss prediction is > > that > > > > job > > > > > > > > > > > betterment > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be expected in the current running Ra- Ve > > dasa, > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Su dasa perhaps with difficulties and better > > > > life > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > coming > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju dasa with a possibility of foreign job.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Mr Tin Win for such detailed > > reply.For the > > > > > > benefit > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > members I would requsets veterans to kindly > > share > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regarding the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " > > > > <tw853@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (3) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. CHART DATA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla, 03-07-1977, 00:05 AM, > > > > Chandigarh > > > > > > (UT), > > > > > > > > > > > 30N42, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 76E48, New KP Ayanamsa 23-27-10, Asc Pi 15- > > 40- > > > > 22, > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > > > Dasa > > > > > > > > > > > Bal > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0Y- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0M- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. PAST EVENTS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Ra-Ra-Sa: July 1995, got admission in > > very > > > > > > reputed > > > > > > > > > engg > > > > > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Ra-Ju-Ra: June1999, managed to clear > > > > > > engineering with > > > > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra-Sa to Ra-Me-Me: appeared in IAS 3 > > times > > > > till > > > > > > July > > > > > > > > > > 2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldn't clear it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Ra-Me-Me: august 2002 to DEC 2003, > > worked > > > > in an > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > coaching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > institute in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > partnership with his teacher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) Ra-Me-Ra: Dec 2003, his partner cheated > > with > > > > > > him and > > > > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > opt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out of this institute > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) Ra-Me-Ju: from Dec 2003 to April 2004, > > under > > > > > > huge > > > > > > > > > > > > depression, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > idle and sitting in home > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) Ra-Me-Ra to Ra-Me-Ju: April 2004, got a > > > > (paper) > > > > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > proposal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from a daughter of IAS officer who was > > doing > > > > > > masters in > > > > > > > > > > > Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8) Ra-Ke-Ve: February 2005, got a marriage > > > > > > proposal from > > > > > > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > girl from Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9) Ra-Ke-Ve: march 2005, got the job in > > Airtel > > > > and > > > > > > worked > > > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > august 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10) Ra-Ke-Ju: august 15th 2005, left for > > USA > > > > and > > > > > > joined > > > > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > august 2005, however couldn't study there, > > > > stayed > > > > > > in USA > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months and couldn't study at all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11) Ra-Ve-Su: august 30th 2006, got divorce > > > > from > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12) Ra-Ve-Ma: January 2007, decided to come > > > > back to > > > > > > > > > India, > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > second girl didn't like this and broke off > > from > > > > > > the native > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today the native is on high dose of > > Anti > > > > > > depression > > > > > > > > > > > > drugs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > At > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > present he is doing job in Airtel again > > with > > > > > > salary of > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rs10000/. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. DASA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra: 03-07-1994 to 03-07-2012 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ra: 03-07-1994 to 14-03-1997 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ju: 15-03-1997 to 08-08-1999 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Sa: 09-08-1999 to 14-06-2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Me:15-06- 2002 to 31-12-2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ke: 01-01-2005 to 20-01-2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ve: 21-01-2006 to 20-01-2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Su: 21-01-2009 to 14-12-2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Mo: 15-12-2009 to 14-06-2011 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ma: 15-06-2011 to 03-07-2012 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju: 04-07-2012 to 03-07-2028 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Empty houses: 6, 8, 9, 10, 12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets with no planets in their stars > > (+): Mo, > > > > > > Sa, Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets in own stars (*): Nil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra is aspected by Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa aspects 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ve: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ve is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Su: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma > > (2- > > > > 9); > > > > > > Asp by Ju > > > > > > > > > > (3- > > > > > > > > > > > > 10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Ve: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Mo+: 11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Mo is Ve: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ma: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ve: 2-8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ra: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ra is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Sa+: 5-12; Asp 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Sa is Su: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma > > (2- > > > > 9); > > > > > > Asp by Ju > > > > > > > > > > (3- > > > > > > > > > > > > 10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Me: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ju: 3-10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Me is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. QUESTIONS TO 4 STEP PRACTITIONERS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Why did such setbacks happen in the > > already > > > > > > passed > > > > > > > > > part > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maha dasa, which primarily signifies only > > 2-9 > > > > > > houses? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) How about the future prospects in the > > rest > > > > of > > > > > > Ra dasa > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > respect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of marriage, carrier and finance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) How can be differentiated the results > > in the > > > > > > coming Ju > > > > > > > > > > > dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > compared to the present running Ju dasa > > since > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > primary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > significators are exactly the same, i.e. > > only > > > > 2-9 > > > > > > houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. REQUEST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the benefit of all members of this > > Group, > > > > > > kindly > > > > > > > > > > sharing > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > expertise that has been taught and learned > > is > > > > > > humbly > > > > > > > > > > > requested > > > > > > > > > > > > > (not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > free prediction which your Guruji didn't > > > > allow) by > > > > > > > > > > providing > > > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > necessary calculated data as above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tin Win > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks once again for your reply.Can you > > > > share > > > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > career as right now I am in huge career > > > > crisis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > > > > > ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not disclose how I do analysis. > > My 2 > > > > cents > > > > > > > > > advice > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that don't get married in rahu > > mahadasha. > > > > You > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the remaining period of rahu > > mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter period will be the best period > > in > > > > your > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > > > ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Group members and Mr singh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually I am new to kp > > astrology.Can you > > > > > > elaborate > > > > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > virgo is badhak ,as far as marak is > > > > > > concerned I > > > > > > > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th house in marak. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also please shed some light on the > > fact > > > > why > > > > > > > > > marraige > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unconventional > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marraige(I mean to say marriage only > > on > > > > > > papers and > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumation) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > took place in rahu-mer, and why it > > broke > > > > of > > > > > > in rah- > > > > > > > > > > > > > venus.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > say what is the role of venus bhukti > > in > > > > rahu > > > > > > maha > > > > > > > > > > > dasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Why my second engagement took off > > > > after > > > > > > 2.5 > > > > > > > > > years > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sustenence ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) When will my career get settled, > > will > > > > it > > > > > > be in > > > > > > > > > > > > busines > > > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > job? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) why i had to leave my masters > > degree > > > > in > > > > > > b/w and > > > > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to india in jan 2007, i mean to say > > why I > > > > > > couldnt > > > > > > > > > > > achive > > > > > > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > distinction in studies during the > > whole > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > dasha???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > > > > > ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are pisces ascendant. In your > > chart > > > > > > Rahu is > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Virgo sign in a worst placement > > because > > > > > > 7th house > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pisces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ascendant is both Badhaka and > > Maraka > > > > > > house. So > > > > > > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > acting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > badhaka and maraka planet for you. > > Also > > > > > > Rahu is > > > > > > > > > > > > aspected > > > > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of Jupiter on Rahu is > > very > > > > good > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > period from March 1997 to August > > 1999 > > > > must > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that time were favorable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of 12th lord Saturn on > > Rahu > > > > is > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > > bad, > > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > period from august 1999 to June > > 2002 > > > > must > > > > > > be very > > > > > > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at that time were also unfavorable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also the 6th lord sun is in the > > > > nakshatra > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you 6th house results during Rahu- > > Sun > > > > > > period in > > > > > > > > > > > 2009, > > > > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > health > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems or debts or separation in > > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should not get married during > > rahu > > > > dasa > > > > > > > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improve during Jupiter mahadasha > > after > > > > > > july 2012. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > > > > > ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > > > > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Guruji ji and other group > > > > > > members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My name is khushdev ,I have > > joined > > > > this > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > > recently.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system of astrology.I am in deep > > > > menatl > > > > > > pain , > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > requset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all to help me out of tis > > pain .My > > > > > > history is > > > > > > > > > > > > attached > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > below.Pls > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me out of this agony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name-Khushdev singla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth date- 03 july 1977 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time-00.05 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > place- chandigarh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 History > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am have been running the rahu > > dasha > > > > > > from mid > > > > > > > > > > > 1994 > > > > > > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having trouble in acedemics and > > > > career > > > > > > > > > > settlement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In july 1995 I got admission in > > very > > > > > > reputed > > > > > > > > > > engg > > > > > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > electrical stream.At that time I > > was > > > > > > suffering > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was put on depression pills by > > > > > > psychiatric. > > > > > > > > > > Though > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > GOT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ADMISSION , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I couldnt perform > > acedamically > > > > > > good .I used > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression and was unable to > > study at > > > > > > all.I > > > > > > > > > > > somehow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > managed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my engineering with much > > difficulty > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > June1999.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > opted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a job because i wanted to > > prepare > > > > > > for IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > exams.At > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > antardasha of saturn started , I > > put > > > > > > myself > > > > > > > > > > wholly > > > > > > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > putting all my career at stake.I > > > > appread > > > > > > in IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > july > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 but couldnt clear it , to my > > > > > > surprise the > > > > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting less marks than me in > > mock > > > > tests > > > > > > got > > > > > > > > > > > > > selected.My > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > failure > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a shock for me ,I opted to teach > > in > > > > an > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > coaching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > institute > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > partnership with my teacher.I > > worked > > > > > > there from > > > > > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dec > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2003.In dec 2003 my partner > > cheated > > > > with > > > > > > me and > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > opt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this institute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was job less and all my dreams > > were > > > > > > > > > > shattered,I > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > huge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression from dec 2003 to april > > > > > > 2004.During > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > time I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > idle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and was sitting in home.I even > > had > > > > > > feeling of > > > > > > > > > > > > > suicideTo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my anti depression pilss were > > still > > > > > > continuing > > > > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1994. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In april 2004 out of sudden I > > got a > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > proposal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > daughter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of IAS officer who was doing > > masters > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > canada.She > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > india > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > few days and wanted to get > > married > > > > to a > > > > > > guy in > > > > > > > > > > > > > india.We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decided > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for paper marriage and did > > entered > > > > into > > > > > > > > > physical > > > > > > > > > > > > > relation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We made a resolution that we will > > > > enetr > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > > physical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > relation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three months and will get formal > > > > > > ceremony done > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only.Meanwhile our plans were i > > will > > > > take > > > > > > > > > > > admission > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will do MTech from there.The girl > > > > left > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months she decided to discontinue > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > relation.Since > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > paper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marriage so we had to take a > > formal > > > > > > divorce. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile I got a marriage > > proposal > > > > from > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in feburary 2005.We got engaged I > > > > told > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prevous > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marraige > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so decided not to get married > > till my > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > annulled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was selected by a university in > > > > USA to > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > MTech > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > join > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from july 2005.Meanwhile I got > > the > > > > job in > > > > > > > > > Airtel > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > march > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worked for Airtel till august > > 2005.I > > > > > > left for > > > > > > > > > > USA > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005.The second girl was so nice > > she > > > > > > cooperated > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > waited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for me so that my divorce is > > > > cleared.I > > > > > > joined > > > > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However i couldnt study there ,I > > > > stayed > > > > > > in usa > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldnt study at all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On august 30th 2006 I got divorce > > > > from > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > > > girl.By > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > january > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I decided to come back to > > India .The > > > > > > second > > > > > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > > > > > didnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she broke off from me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today I am on high dose of > > Anti > > > > > > depression > > > > > > > > > > > drugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My questions are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Career > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At present I am doing job in > > Airtel > > > > > > again with > > > > > > > > > > > > salary > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rs10000/.I sometimes feel > > misearble > > > > that > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > 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> > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Marriage when will I get > > > > married.How > > > > > > will be > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will my partner be from high > > status > > > > > > family or > > > > > > > > > > > not.I > > > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good proposals for marriage at > > all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 Financial status how will be my > > > > > > financial > > > > > > > > > > > > > status.Some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology pandits say that after > > > > 2012 in > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dasha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I 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Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Dera Tw ji, It is important that all member respect moderator's decision in case of crisis situation. The forum objectives can not be achieved if that doesn't happen. I feel that our present discussion must be stopped because it is having no astrological value and has become merely a tool for satisfying ego. I took a lot of time to think and call it off , but now I have clarity that I don't want any further discussion on the present topic. Our email exchanges are going no where, and your emails clearly tell that you do not see any value in my saying. I have to call it off at one point and I believe this is the point. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 4:12 PM, tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Moderator Punit Pandey ji,Okay, no further discussion here and there, what is this group for?Only to listen what you want to say? Thanks and regards,tw , " Punit Pandey " <punitp wrote:>> Dear Tw ji, > > When the discussion reaches to the stage where we start posting personal> profile from their website, to me it looks like it has gone beyond just> proving this point. Now the forum policy on the names is clear, let us have> no further discussion on it.> > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 7:17 AM, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> > > Dear Punit Pandey ji,> >> > I'm not against or objecting any method. Like some others I'm> > interested in old and new methods and so I've studied some of them> > and presented the analysis with their own names. My point it not to> > miss up with KP name sticking to KP like a snail and to use its own> > name, otherwise it's confusing for members whether the analysis is> > by KP or by another method.> >> > Thanks and regards,> >> > tw> > > > <%40>, " Punit > > Pandey " <punitp@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tw ji,> > >> > > If you contribution has not been appreciated, I would not be> > spending so> > > much time replying your emails. I jumped in only when I saw that> > it is going> > > beyond the expected level. I could clearly see the violation of> > two of our> > > guiding points as follows -> > >> > > > > > · Any type of Personal attack, flaming, or profane> > language will not> > > be tolerated. Members, please focus only on the subject and not> > deviate or> > > go off tangents on provocative indecent behaviour or language. > > >> > > · Please don't try to prove superiority of one branch of> > astrology> > > over another. In this group, all branches should be treated with> > equal > > > respect. Respect for other branches is essential for research and> > > discussion.> > > (Taken from forum constitution file)> > >> > > Please post clearly what you didn't expect from the moderator? The> > critical> > > analysis of any method is always welcome. But to the standard it> > has reached> > > recently is neither appreciated not accepted.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 4:01 PM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > >> > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji, > > > >> > > > I've already told you I've nothing to say in this regard. If you> > asy> > > > so, who thouroughly studied this 4 step method and expalined > > clearly> > > > in this forum at one place for the learning for sure? Who did> > give a> > > > compilation of mesages to learn it? It is the same not expected> > from > > > > a moderator like you.> > > >> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > >> > > > tw> > > >> > > > <% 40><% > > 40>, " Punit> > > > Pandey " <punitp@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Tw ji, > > > > >> > > > > Instead of digging into old emails and searching for points> > > > related to> > > > > particular method, why can't we stop blaming and move on? Now> > as> > > > we have a> > > > > definition for stellar methods, why can't all those methods> > live> > > > together?> > > > > Quoting some sentence from an old email wihout the context > > presents> > > > > incorrect meaning. I don't know what is the intention here but> > for> > > > it is not> > > > > conductive for the learning for sure. It is not expected from a> > > > senior> > > > > member like you.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > >> > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > >> > > > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 8:28 AM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > If this is your thinking without any particular reason, I've> > > > nothing> > > > > > to say. Regarding discussion, are allowed for> > that> > > > > > purpose.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > tw > > > > > >> > > > > > <%40><% > > 40><%> >> > > > 40>, " Punit > > > >> > > > > > Pandey " <punitp@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Tw ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > This is what I think. I think that 4-step is a good enough> > > > method> > > > > > and> > > > > > > deserve discussion and critical analysis in this forum.> > That> > > > is the> > > > > > > reason that we always remained open for the discussion on> > 4-> > > > step.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Because you have quoted it amidst of KP / Non-KP> > discussion,> > > > it is > > > > > > important> > > > > > > to clarify that " comparative good " has nothing to do with> > the> > > > > > comparison> > > > > > > with KP. This is comparison with generally available > > > > astrological> > > > > > system and> > > > > > > should be taken in that context.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I hope it answers your question. > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:59 PM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Moderator Punit Pandey ji, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Could you kindly elaborate why " 4 Step method is> > > > comparatively> > > > > > good " as > > > > > > > > you said below for the benefit of members and in order to> > > > move> > > > > > ahead from> > > > > > > > the prolonged Q & A stage of 4 step basic principles, > > which> > > > is> > > > > > already> > > > > > > > posted in the file section of this group under> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > *A NOTE ON FOUR STEP > > > > > >> > THEORY.doc*<http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/QKPjRwcgEXqlcBWctdNQn-> > > > > > D6sDjG_T9vVCByUzxoeKIuwgwp7- o8DecWg1il1EGOmngy5oiIYWnHMTa-> > > > > > YX1jboUZEw/A%20NOTE%20ON%20FOUR%20STEP%20THEORY.doc>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > * *> > > > > > > > A STUDY NOTE ON FOUR STEP THEORY . > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > <% 40><%> > 40><%> >> > > > 40>, > > > > > > " Punit Pandey " <punitp@>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, Tw ji, Sunil ji and members, > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I expect that all of us will maintain the decorum of> > the> > > > forum> > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > will focus on learning, NOT on proving or disproving> > > > something.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > All members involved here are senior members and I > > request> > > > > > everybody> > > > > > > > > to set example for other members.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 4 Step method is comparatively good and it is good to> > have> > > > a> > > > > > critical> > > > > > > > > analysis in an open forum. I am watching this thread> > very> > > > > > closely and > > > > > > > > > it seems that we have enough discussion. It is advised> > not> > > > to> > > > > > take it> > > > > > > > > further because it seems that we are deviating from the> > > > > > intention of> > > > > > > > > learning.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > <% 40><%> > 40><%> >> > > > 40>, > > > >> > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear tw, > > > > > > > > > > What you've written is undiluted rubbish...it> > > > > > > > > thoroughly reveals your " paediatric mindset " > > > > > > > > > > ...and,in any case,this kind of paediatric game > > > > of " baiting " > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > not provoke me,Tin Win...try somewhere else ...Have you> > > > read> > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > Berne's very famous book... " Games people play " ? If> > > > not ,pl.> > > > > > do,and I> > > > > > > > > assure you,after perusing it you could discover > > yourself> > > > and> > > > > > also> > > > > > > > > exactly " what makes you tick " and hopefully,you will> > stop> > > > > > playing > > > > > > > > > such paediatric games...> > > > > > > > > > Shortcut methods,and " instant learning " is popular in> > > > > > > > > the US and abroad,it seems...with the help of a few > > > > examples> > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > suit their preconceived ideas,they will pronounce> > > > > > an " axiom " ,as it > > > > > > > > > were...only to sheepishly regret it sooner than> > later... !> > > > > > > > > > We in India,do not to such " instant > > > > > > > > > research " ...> > > > > > > > > > Practice K.P., and LEARN K.P., by practical> > > > > > > > > experience...instead of seeking instant knowledge...> > > > > > > > > > With best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 tw853@> > > > > > > > > > <% 40><%> > 40><%> > > > 40> > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 6:36:54 PM> > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP> > > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems you don't know how to apply what you're> > saying> > > > > > practically> > > > > > > > > > in the life examples. You can say on yourself for the> > > > sake of> > > > > > > > > saying> > > > > > > > > > only.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi> > > > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..>> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear tw853, > > > > > > > > > > > Words and words...? Ha Ha Ha...Cannot be> > > > > > > > > > helped,if people refuse to understand and argue for> > > > > > arguments' > > > > > > > > > > sake...> > > > > > > > > > > A question which I had asked you earlier,and> > > > > > > > > > went unanswered is being repeated...Just what are you> > > > trying> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > prove ?> > > > > > > > > > > If you are keen to impress people that you have > > > > > > > > > > more than enough knowledge of K.P., just because you> > have> > > > > > already> > > > > > > > > > read various well-known books written by learned > > > > > > > > > K.P.stalwarts. ...I> > > > > > > > > > am not impressed...> > > > > > > > > > > Because, proper application and knowledge are > > > > > > > > > > two entirely different entities...> > > > > > > > > > > I have analysed and posted my analyses of very> > > > > > > > > > many Charts both,Horary and Natal...on many a > > > > forum...and I> > > > > > do not> > > > > > > > > > need any certificate from you...Simply because you> > said> > > > you > > > > > > are a> > > > > > > > > > beginner,I was just trying to help you learn K.P.,> > > > > > better...from> > > > > > > > > > your mail it appears that you already kmow K.P., as> > much> > > > as> > > > > > > > > > a 'Pundit' should...> > > > > > > > > > > The best way to learn K.P., is to " do it > > > > > > > > > > yourself,if you make mistakes,> > > > > > > > > > > never mind,learn from them...> > > > > > > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 5:36:54 AM> > > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP> > > > > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why words and words again and never ever presenting> > > > > > something> > > > > > > > > > > practically? > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > If you know somehting about those matters as your> > > > saying,> > > > > > why > > > > > > > > > > don't> > > > > > > > > > > you show with this practical live example chart> > for the> > > > > > benefits > > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > KP learners?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > You will understand my analysis if you read the > > books> > > > of> > > > > > > > > > Shanmugam,> > > > > > > > > > > Bhatt , K. Subramanium and K. Hariharan in respect > > of> > > > > > health and> > > > > > > > > > > miserable life.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Tin Win> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao > > Lajmi> > > > > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..>> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TW,> > > > > > > > > > > > I truly admire you for deftly trying to put the> > > > > > > > > > > ball back into my court...! > > > > > > > > > > > > As a matter of fact,if ,as you claim,you are a> > > > > > > > > > > learner...it will certainly be a very good> > exercise for > > > > > > you to> > > > > > > > > > find> > > > > > > > > > > out which houses the s/l of the Ascendant> > signifies ... > > > > > > (even if> > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > need to take the help of books...)> > > > > > > > > > > > It will firstly, help you to determine the level> > of> > > > > > > > > > > the horoscope,and secondly to especially enable> > you to> > > > > > assess as> > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > what percentage of the benefits promised by a> > > > planet,the> > > > > > person> > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > actually destined to enjoy...during it's> > > > > > > > > > > Dasa/Bhukti/ Antara/sookshma. ..etc.> > > > > > > > > > > > For example,if is exalted and signifies II & > > > > > > > > > > > XI...and in a favourable sub...will such a person> > gain> > > > a> > > > > > huge> > > > > > > > > > amount > > > > > > > > > > > of wealth ? If not to what extent...High,> > Middle,Low> > > > or the> > > > > > > > > Lowest> > > > > > > > > > > level...etc. ! Only K.P. can help you reveal > > > > this...and so> > > > > > on...> > > > > > > > > > > > And, for example,if it signifies I,V,IX and X> > along> > > > > > > > > > > with III & VIII,a long life is promised...if it > > > > signifies> > > > > > Badhaka> > > > > > > > > > > and Maraka Houses...a short life is seen...while> > if the> > > > > > s/l of I > > > > > > > > > > > signifies VI...one will be sickly...the sickness> > will> > > > > > begin or> > > > > > > > > > > worsen during the conjoint periods of the > > > > significators of> > > > > > I & > > > > > > > > > > > VI...and so on...> > > > > > > > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant gives a fair idea of the> > > > > > > > > > > general health of a person ...its not being a> > > > significator> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > > > > > VI,VIII & XII ,shows GOOD health generally ... and> > so> > > > on...> > > > > > > > > > > > It is very important to first analyse the Lagna> > > > > > > > > > > thoroughly of any horoscope presented for> > analysis...as> > > > > > per our> > > > > > > > > > > revered Guruji KSK... > > > > > > > > > > > > I fervently hope you are doing this exercise with> > > > > > > > > > > every Birth Chart presented to you for your> > perusal and > > > > > > > > > analysis...> > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore Tin Winji,I am looking forward to your> > > > > > > > > > > analyses... > > > > > > > > > > > > Wishing you the very best...> > > > > > > > > > > > With kind regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 8:13:02 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 > > STEP> > > > > > PRACTICAL> > > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao, > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Could you kindly present your analysis of the> > s/l> > > > of > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > Ascendant in depth for the benefits of all> > members of> > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > Group > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > discuss and learn something.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I've done my part as a KP learner and now I> > > > request> > > > > > you as a> > > > > > > > > > KP> > > > > > > > > > > > Senior to do your part. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao > > Lajmi> > > > > > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..>> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TW,> > > > > > > > > > > > > Excellent analysis indeed, but could you> > pl.analyse> > > > > > > > > > > > the s/l of the Ascendant in depth ? It should > > > > normally> > > > > > confirm> > > > > > > > > > > your> > > > > > > > > > > > readings as being on the right track... > > > > > > > > > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant,assuming that the TOB> > is> > > > > > > > > > > > the exact one,that is...should indicate or > > atleast> > > > > > confirm all> > > > > > > > > > > your> > > > > > > > > > > > findings...> > > > > > > > > > > > > What are your findings in this regard ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will be interesting to know...could you pl.> > > > > > > > > > > > throw some light on this ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in advance please... > > > > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 10:38:16 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4> > STEP> > > > > > PRACTICAL> > > > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DEPRESSION> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. 6th Sbl is Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. (Maha) Dasa lord Ra: 7; Asp Ju(3-1-10): Asp> > Sa+> > > > (5- > > > > > > 11-12 & > > > > > > > > > > +2-> > > > > > > > > > > 4-> > > > > > > > > > > > 7- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8); Stl Ma(2-9); Sgl Me(4-7) (Note: No planet> > is in> > > > > > the star> > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa,> > > > > > > > > > > > > which is the Sbl of 2,4,7,8.) Ra is in the sub> > of> > > > Ju(3- > > > > > > 1-10)> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. The occupation of 6th Sbl Ra in 7th and its > > > > > > connection> > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > 3> > > > > > > > > > > > > (mental stability), 5 (intelligence, mental > > > > stability)> > > > > > and 9> > > > > > > > > > > > (higher> > > > > > > > > > > > > mind) may cause mental aberration. (K. > > Subramaniam)> > > > > > The other> > > > > > > > > > > > > possible causes to depression are Asc (head)> > Conj> > > > Ke(7) > > > > > > > > > (Note:> > > > > > > > > > > No> > > > > > > > > > > > > planet is in the star of Ke, which is the Sbl> > of 9> > > > > > sending> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > native to USA in its Bhukti.); Mo (emotional> > mind)> > > > > > Aspt by Sa> > > > > > > > > > > > > (depression, miseries, 7-2-8-12); Me> > (intelligent> > > > > > mind) Conj > > > > > > > > > Su> > > > > > > > > > > (7-> > > > > > > > > > > > 2-> > > > > > > > > > > > > 6-8-12; 5th occupied by Sa, Ar (first rasi > > sign as> > > > > > head) Asp> > > > > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > > > Sa> > > > > > > > > > > > > and occupied by Ma(2-8); 6th Sbl Ra:8-12; 8th> > Sbl> > > > > > Sa+:8-12.> > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th Sbl Mo+: 6-12+. (Note: No planet is in the> > > > star> > > > > > of Mo,> > > > > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > the Sbl of 12.) > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra's signification of 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & > > > > Maraka), 2 > > > > > > > > > > (Maraka)> > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > unfavorable for health. The repeated > > signification> > > > of> > > > > > 4th,> > > > > > > > > > i.e.> > > > > > > > > > > 12> > > > > > > > > > > > > to 5th, is also no good for mental stability.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. However, there are the relieving factors> > such> > > > as: no > > > > > > > > > > support> > > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra's Sbl; Ra can not give it occupational > > result of> > > > > > 7th since> > > > > > > > > > Su> > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > in its star. Ju's aspect (to Ra) alone is the> > > > > > exception to> > > > > > > > > > > relieve> > > > > > > > > > > > > the adverse effects of Badhaka. (Sri > > Shanmugam);> > > > Asc> > > > > > lord Ju> > > > > > > > > > Asp> > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th and Mo; Asc Sbl Ju: 2-3-9-1-10 in its own> > sub;> > > > 6th> > > > > > Sbl Ra> > > > > > > > > > > > > signifies also 1-5-11, 8th Sbl Sa+ signifies> > also > > > > 5-11> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > 12th> > > > > > > > > > > > Sbl> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo+ signifies also 11-5. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. From the above, the depression is expected> > to be> > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > > after> > > > > > > > > > > Ra> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa and no more in the coming Ju (Maha) Dasa> > since> > > > > > Ju: 2-3-9-> > > > > > > > > > 1-> > > > > > > > > > > 10> > > > > > > > > > > > > in its own sub. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > SETBACKS IN LIFE> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. Dasa lord Ra: 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2> > > > > > (Maraka) may> > > > > > > > > > > cause > > > > > > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > > > > miserable life during its Dasa. Another reason> > for> > > > the > > > > > > > > > failure> > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > further higher study mi be due to a lack of > > 11th> > > > > > > > > signification> > > > > > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > > > > > the 9th Sbl Ke and another lack of 9, 11th > > > > > > signification by> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > 11th Sbl Me. But 12th Sbl Mo+ signifies both > > bad> > > > > > houses 5-12+> > > > > > > > > > > (bad> > > > > > > > > > > > > luck, loss of money , cheated) and good houses> > 6-11> > > > > > (good> > > > > > > > > > luck)> > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > most importantly does not signify 8, 7 > > (Badhaka & > > > > > > Maraka), 2> > > > > > > > > > > > > (Maraka). And the life is expected to be much> > > > better> > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > stable> > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > the Ju Dasa.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. The marriage is promised and more than one> > is> > > > > > indicated.> > > > > > > > > > Love > > > > > > > > > > > > > marriage is found. Delay and obstacles in> > marriage> > > > are> > > > > > > > > > indicated > > > > > > > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > > > > > Punarphoo (although cancelled by Dr. Kar's> > theory);> > > > > > Sa's > > > > > > > > > > > > occupation> > > > > > > > > > > > > of the 5th house aspecting 7, 11, 2 houses;> > > > connection> > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > 2,4,7,> > > > > > > > > > > 8> > > > > > > > > > > > > by the same Sbl Sa (here 8th is> > disappointment, and > > > > > > 4th is 12> > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > 5th> > > > > > > > > > > > > of love affairs) and Ra in 7th house. (Mars > > Dosha> > > > is> > > > > > > > > cancelled> > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > it has been found not working in KP by 2 > > studies> > > > of the> > > > > > > > > > hundreds> > > > > > > > > > > > AA> > > > > > > > > > > > > charts.) > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 9. As a KP learner, hit or miss prediction is> > that> > > > job > > > > > > > > > > > betterment> > > > > > > > > > > > > can be expected in the current running Ra-Ve> > dasa,> > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Su dasa perhaps with difficulties and better> > > > life> > > > > > in the> > > > > > > > > > > coming> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju dasa with a possibility of foreign job.. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck!> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > <kdsips@>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Mr Tin Win for such detailed> > reply.For the> > > > > > benefit> > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > group> > > > > > > > > > > > > > members I would requsets veterans to kindly> > share> > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > comments> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regarding the same.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kds> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " > > > > <tw853@>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (3)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. CHART DATA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla, 03-07-1977, 00:05 AM,> > > > Chandigarh > > > > > > (UT),> > > > > > > > > > > 30N42,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 76E48, New KP Ayanamsa 23-27-10, Asc Pi 15- > > 40-> > > > 22,> > > > > > Sun> > > > > > > > > Dasa> > > > > > > > > > > Bal> > > > > > > > > > > > > 0Y- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0M-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0D> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. PAST EVENTS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Ra-Ra-Sa: July 1995, got admission in> > very> > > > > > reputed> > > > > > > > > engg> > > > > > > > > > > > > college> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Ra-Ju-Ra: June1999, managed to clear > > > > > > engineering with> > > > > > > > > > > much> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra-Sa to Ra-Me-Me: appeared in IAS 3 > > times> > > > till> > > > > > July> > > > > > > > > > 2002> > > > > > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldn't clear it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Ra-Me-Me: august 2002 to DEC 2003,> > worked> > > > in an> > > > > > IAS> > > > > > > > > > > > coaching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > institute in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > partnership with his teacher> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) Ra-Me-Ra: Dec 2003, his partner cheated> > with> > > > > > him and> > > > > > > > > > had> > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > opt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out of this institute> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) Ra-Me-Ju: from Dec 2003 to April 2004, > > under> > > > > > huge> > > > > > > > > > > > depression,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > idle and sitting in home > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) Ra-Me-Ra to Ra-Me-Ju: April 2004, got a> > > > (paper)> > > > > > > > > > marriage> > > > > > > > > > > > > > proposal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from a daughter of IAS officer who was> > doing> > > > > > masters in> > > > > > > > > > > Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8) Ra-Ke-Ve: February 2005, got a marriage> > > > > > proposal from> > > > > > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > girl from Canada> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9) Ra-Ke-Ve: march 2005, got the job in> > Airtel > > > > and> > > > > > worked> > > > > > > > > > > > there> > > > > > > > > > > > > > till> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > august 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10) Ra-Ke-Ju: august 15th 2005, left for> > USA> > > > and> > > > > > joined> > > > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > august 2005, however couldn't study there,> > > > stayed > > > > > > in USA> > > > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > > > 18> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months and couldn't study at all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11) Ra-Ve-Su: august 30th 2006, got divorce> > > > from> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > girl> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12) Ra-Ve-Ma: January 2007, decided to come> > > > back to> > > > > > > > > India, > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > second girl didn't like this and broke off> > from> > > > > > the native > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today the native is on high dose of> > Anti> > > > > > depression > > > > > > > > > > > > drugs.> > > > > > > > > > > > > At> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > present he is doing job in Airtel again > > with> > > > > > salary of> > > > > > > > > > only> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rs10000/.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. DASA> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra: 03-07-1994 to 03-07-2012 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ra: 03-07-1994 to 14-03-1997> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ju: 15-03-1997 to 08-08-1999 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Sa: 09-08-1999 to 14-06-2002> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Me:15-06- 2002 to 31-12-2004> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ke: 01-01-2005 to 20-01-2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ve: 21-01-2006 to 20-01-2009> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Su: 21-01-2009 to 14-12-2009> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Mo: 15-12-2009 to 14-06-2011 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ma: 15-06-2011 to 03-07-2012> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju: 04-07-2012 to 03-07-2028 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Empty houses: 6, 8, 9, 10, 12> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets with no planets in their stars> > (+): Mo,> > > > > > Sa, Ke> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets in own stars (*): Nil> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra is aspected by Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa aspects 2> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ve: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ve is Ju:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Su:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma> > (2-> > > > 9);> > > > > > Asp by Ju> > > > > > > > > > (3-> > > > > > > > > > > > 10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Ve:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Mo+: 11> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Su: 4-6> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Mo is Ve: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ma: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ve: 2-8> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ra:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ra is Ju:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ju:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Sa+: 5-12; Asp 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 4> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Sa is Su:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma> > (2-> > > > 9);> > > > > > Asp by Ju> > > > > > > > > > (3-> > > > > > > > > > > > 10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Me:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ju: 3-10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Me is Ju:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. QUESTIONS TO 4 STEP PRACTITIONERS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Why did such setbacks happen in the > > already> > > > > > passed> > > > > > > > > part> > > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maha dasa, which primarily signifies only> > 2-9> > > > > > houses?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) How about the future prospects in the> > rest> > > > of> > > > > > Ra dasa> > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > respect> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of marriage, carrier and finance?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) How can be differentiated the results> > in the> > > > > > coming Ju> > > > > > > > > > > dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > compared to the present running Ju dasa> > since> > > > their > > > > > > > > > > primary> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > significators are exactly the same, i.e.> > only> > > > 2-9 > > > > > > houses.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. REQUEST> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the benefit of all members of this> > Group,> > > > > > kindly> > > > > > > > > > sharing > > > > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > your> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > expertise that has been taught and learned> > is> > > > > > humbly> > > > > > > > > > > requested> > > > > > > > > > > > > (not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > free prediction which your Guruji didn't> > > > allow) by> > > > > > > > > > providing> > > > > > > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > necessary calculated data as above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tin Win> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro> > ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks once again for your reply.Can you> > > > share> > > > > > > > > something> > > > > > > > > > > > more> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > career as right now I am in huge career> > > > crisis.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > > > > > ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not disclose how I do analysis.> > My 2> > > > cents> > > > > > > > > advice > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that don't get married in rahu> > mahadasha.> > > > You> > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > > more> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the remaining period of rahu > > mahadasha.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter period will be the best period> > in> > > > your> > > > > > life> > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > every> > > > > > > > > > > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro> > > > ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > > > > > <kdsips@>> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Group members and Mr singh,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually I am new to kp> > astrology.Can you> > > > > > elaborate> > > > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > virgo is badhak ,as far as marak is> > > > > > concerned I> > > > > > > > > > > > understand> > > > > > > > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th house in marak.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also please shed some light on the> > fact> > > > why> > > > > > > > > marraige> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unconventional> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marraige(I mean to say marriage only> > on> > > > > > papers and> > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumation) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > took place in rahu-mer, and why it> > broke> > > > of> > > > > > in rah-> > > > > > > > > > > > > venus.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > say what is the role of venus bhukti> > in> > > > rahu> > > > > > maha> > > > > > > > > > > dasha.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Why my second engagement took off> > > > after> > > > > > 2.5> > > > > > > > > years> > > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sustenence ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) When will my career get settled,> > will> > > > it> > > > > > be in> > > > > > > > > > > > busines > > > > > > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > job?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) why i had to leave my masters> > degree> > > > in> > > > > > b/w and> > > > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > came> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to india in jan 2007, i mean to say> > why I> > > > > > couldnt> > > > > > > > > > > achive > > > > > > > > > > > > > any> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > distinction in studies during the> > whole> > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > dasha????> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro> > > > > > ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are pisces ascendant. In your> > chart> > > > > > Rahu is> > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Virgo sign in a worst placement > > because> > > > > > 7th house> > > > > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > > > > > pisces> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ascendant is both Badhaka and > > Maraka> > > > > > house. So> > > > > > > > > > Rahu> > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > acting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > both> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > badhaka and maraka planet for you.> > Also> > > > > > Rahu is> > > > > > > > > > > > aspected> > > > > > > > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Saturn.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of Jupiter on Rahu is> > very> > > > good> > > > > > so> > > > > > > > > your> > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > period from March 1997 to August> > 1999> > > > must> > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that time were favorable.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of 12th lord Saturn on> > Rahu> > > > is> > > > > > very> > > > > > > > > > bad, > > > > > > > > > > > so> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > period from august 1999 to June> > 2002> > > > must> > > > > > be very> > > > > > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at that time were also unfavorable.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also the 6th lord sun is in the> > > > nakshatra> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > > > > so> > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you 6th house results during Rahu-> > Sun> > > > > > period in> > > > > > > > > > > 2009,> > > > > > > > > > > > > like> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > health > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems or debts or separation in> > > > > > marriage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should not get married during> > rahu> > > > dasa> > > > > > > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your> > > > > > > > > > > > > > life> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improve during Jupiter mahadasha> > after> > > > > > july 2012.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro> > > > > > ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > > > > > > > <kdsips@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Guruji ji and other group> > > > > > members,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My name is khushdev ,I have > > joined> > > > this> > > > > > group> > > > > > > > > > > > > recently.I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system of astrology.I am in deep> > > > menatl> > > > > > pain ,> > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > requset> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all to help me out of tis> > pain .My> > > > > > history is> > > > > > > > > > > > attached > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > below.Pls> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me out of this agony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name-Khushdev singla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth date- 03 july 1977> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time-00.05 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > place- chandigarh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 History> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am have been running the rahu> > dasha> > > > > > from mid> > > > > > > > > > > 1994> > > > > > > > > > > > > since> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > am> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having trouble in acedemics and> > > > career> > > > > > > > > > settlement.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In july 1995 I got admission in> > very> > > > > > reputed> > > > > > > > > > engg> > > > > > > > > > > > > college> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > electrical stream.At that time I> > was> > > > > > suffering> > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was put on depression pills by> > > > > > psychiatric.> > > > > > > > > > Though> > > > > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > > > > > GOT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ADMISSION ,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I couldnt perform > > acedamically> > > > > > good .I used> > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression and was unable to> > study at> > > > > > all.I> > > > > > > > > > > somehow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > managed> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my engineering with much> > difficulty> > > > in> > > > > > > > > > June1999.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > opted> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a job because i wanted to > > prepare> > > > > > for IAS> > > > > > > > > > > > exams.At> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > antardasha of saturn started , I> > put> > > > > > myself> > > > > > > > > > wholly> > > > > > > > > > > > > into> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exam> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > putting all my career at stake.I> > > > appread> > > > > > in IAS> > > > > > > > > > > > three> > > > > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > till> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > july> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 but couldnt clear it , to my> > > > > > surprise the> > > > > > > > > > > > people> > > > > > > > > > > > > who> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting less marks than me in> > mock> > > > tests> > > > > > got> > > > > > > > > > > > > selected.My > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > failure> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a shock for me ,I opted to teach> > in> > > > an> > > > > > IAS> > > > > > > > > > > coaching> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > institute > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > partnership with my teacher.I > > worked> > > > > > there from> > > > > > > > > > > > august> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dec> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2003.In dec 2003 my partner > > cheated> > > > with> > > > > > me and> > > > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > opt> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this institute.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was job less and all my dreams> > were> > > > > > > > > > shattered,I> > > > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > huge> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression from dec 2003 to april> > > > > > 2004.During> > > > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > > > > time I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > idle> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and was sitting in home.I even> > had> > > > > > feeling of> > > > > > > > > > > > > suicideTo> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my anti depression pilss were > > still> > > > > > continuing> > > > > > > > > > > since> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1994.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In april 2004 out of sudden I > > got a> > > > > > marriage> > > > > > > > > > > > proposal> > > > > > > > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > daughter> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of IAS officer who was doing > > masters> > > > in> > > > > > > > > > canada.She> > > > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > india> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > few days and wanted to get > > married> > > > to a> > > > > > guy in> > > > > > > > > > > > > india.We> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decided > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for paper marriage and did > > entered> > > 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Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 My understanding is that the major point of objection of Twji is regarding the role of sublord in 4step method. Since this forum is for perfection of our knowledge, why not both TWji and Sunilji present the efficacy of 4Step and Traditional KP system by some case studies? I propose both of them present 5 cases each, which are difficult to explain by the respective methods. Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of tw853 Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:12 PM Re: Why 4 Step Method is comparatively good? Dear Moderator Punit Pandey ji, Okay, no further discussion here and there, what is this group for? Only to listen what you want to say? Thanks and regards, tw , " Punit Pandey " <punitp wrote: > > Dear Tw ji, > > When the discussion reaches to the stage where we start posting personal > profile from their website, to me it looks like it has gone beyond just > proving this point. Now the forum policy on the names is clear, let us have > no further discussion on it. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 7:17 AM, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji, > > > > I'm not against or objecting any method. Like some others I'm > > interested in old and new methods and so I've studied some of them > > and presented the analysis with their own names. My point it not to > > miss up with KP name sticking to KP like a snail and to use its own > > name, otherwise it's confusing for members whether the analysis is > > by KP or by another method. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > <% 40>, " Punit > > Pandey " <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tw ji, > > > > > > If you contribution has not been appreciated, I would not be > > spending so > > > much time replying your emails. I jumped in only when I saw that > > it is going > > > beyond the expected level. I could clearly see the violation of > > two of our > > > guiding points as follows - > > > > > > > > > . Any type of Personal attack, flaming, or profane > > language will not > > > be tolerated. Members, please focus only on the subject and not > > deviate or > > > go off tangents on provocative indecent behaviour or language. > > > > > > . Please don't try to prove superiority of one branch of > > astrology > > > over another. In this group, all branches should be treated with > > equal > > > respect. Respect for other branches is essential for research and > > > discussion. > > > (Taken from forum constitution file) > > > > > > Please post clearly what you didn't expect from the moderator? The > > critical > > > analysis of any method is always welcome. But to the standard it > > has reached > > > recently is neither appreciated not accepted. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 4:01 PM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji, > > > > > > > > I've already told you I've nothing to say in this regard. If you > > asy > > > > so, who thouroughly studied this 4 step method and expalined > > clearly > > > > in this forum at one place for the learning for sure? Who did > > give a > > > > compilation of mesages to learn it? It is the same not expected > > from > > > > a moderator like you. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40>, " Punit > > > > Pandey " <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tw ji, > > > > > > > > > > Instead of digging into old emails and searching for points > > > > related to > > > > > particular method, why can't we stop blaming and move on? Now > > as > > > > we have a > > > > > definition for stellar methods, why can't all those methods > > live > > > > together? > > > > > Quoting some sentence from an old email wihout the context > > presents > > > > > incorrect meaning. I don't know what is the intention here but > > for > > > > it is not > > > > > conductive for the learning for sure. It is not expected from a > > > > senior > > > > > member like you. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 8:28 AM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > If this is your thinking without any particular reason, I've > > > > nothing > > > > > > to say. Regarding discussion, are allowed for > > that > > > > > > purpose. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40><% > > > > > > 40>, " Punit > > > > > > > > > > Pandey " <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tw ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is what I think. I think that 4-step is a good enough > > > > method > > > > > > and > > > > > > > deserve discussion and critical analysis in this forum. > > That > > > > is the > > > > > > > reason that we always remained open for the discussion on > > 4- > > > > step. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because you have quoted it amidst of KP / Non-KP > > discussion, > > > > it is > > > > > > important > > > > > > > to clarify that " comparative good " has nothing to do with > > the > > > > > > comparison > > > > > > > with KP. This is comparison with generally available > > > > astrological > > > > > > system and > > > > > > > should be taken in that context. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope it answers your question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:59 PM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Moderator Punit Pandey ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you kindly elaborate why " 4 Step method is > > > > comparatively > > > > > > good " as > > > > > > > > you said below for the benefit of members and in order to > > > > move > > > > > > ahead from > > > > > > > > the prolonged Q & A stage of 4 step basic principles, > > which > > > > is > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > posted in the file section of this group under > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *A NOTE ON FOUR STEP > > > > > > > > THEORY.doc*<http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/QKPjRwcgEXqlcBWctdNQn- > > > > > > D6sDjG_T9vVCByUzxoeKIuwgwp7- o8DecWg1il1EGOmngy5oiIYWnHMTa- > > > > > > YX1jboUZEw/A%20NOTE%20ON%20FOUR%20STEP%20THEORY.doc> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * > > > > > > > > A STUDY NOTE ON FOUR STEP THEORY . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40><% > > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > " Punit Pandey " <punitp@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, Tw ji, Sunil ji and members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I expect that all of us will maintain the decorum of > > the > > > > forum > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > will focus on learning, NOT on proving or disproving > > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All members involved here are senior members and I > > request > > > > > > everybody > > > > > > > > > to set example for other members. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 Step method is comparatively good and it is good to > > have > > > > a > > > > > > critical > > > > > > > > > analysis in an open forum. I am watching this thread > > very > > > > > > closely and > > > > > > > > > it seems that we have enough discussion. It is advised > > not > > > > to > > > > > > take it > > > > > > > > > further because it seems that we are deviating from the > > > > > > intention of > > > > > > > > > learning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40><% > > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@ > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear tw, > > > > > > > > > > What you've written is undiluted rubbish...it > > > > > > > > > thoroughly reveals your " paediatric mindset " > > > > > > > > > > ...and,in any case,this kind of paediatric game > > > > of " baiting " > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > not provoke me,Tin Win...try somewhere else ...Have you > > > > read > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > Berne's very famous book... " Games people play " ? If > > > > not ,pl. > > > > > > do,and I > > > > > > > > > assure you,after perusing it you could discover > > yourself > > > > and > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > exactly " what makes you tick " and hopefully,you will > > stop > > > > > > playing > > > > > > > > > such paediatric games... > > > > > > > > > > Shortcut methods,and " instant learning " is popular in > > > > > > > > > the US and abroad,it seems...with the help of a few > > > > examples > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > suit their preconceived ideas,they will pronounce > > > > > > an " axiom " ,as it > > > > > > > > > were...only to sheepishly regret it sooner than > > later... ! > > > > > > > > > > We in India,do not to such " instant > > > > > > > > > research " ... > > > > > > > > > > Practice K.P., and LEARN K.P., by practical > > > > > > > > > experience...instead of seeking instant knowledge... > > > > > > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 tw853@ > > > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40><% > > > > 40> > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 6:36:54 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP > > > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems you don't know how to apply what you're > > saying > > > > > > practically > > > > > > > > > > in the life examples. You can say on yourself for the > > > > sake of > > > > > > > > > saying > > > > > > > > > > only. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear tw853, > > > > > > > > > > > Words and words...? Ha Ha Ha...Cannot be > > > > > > > > > > helped,if people refuse to understand and argue for > > > > > > arguments' > > > > > > > > > > sake... > > > > > > > > > > > A question which I had asked you earlier,and > > > > > > > > > > went unanswered is being repeated...Just what are you > > > > trying > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > prove ? > > > > > > > > > > > If you are keen to impress people that you have > > > > > > > > > > more than enough knowledge of K.P., just because you > > have > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > > read various well-known books written by learned > > > > > > > > > K.P.stalwarts. ...I > > > > > > > > > > am not impressed... > > > > > > > > > > > Because, proper application and knowledge are > > > > > > > > > > two entirely different entities... > > > > > > > > > > > I have analysed and posted my analyses of very > > > > > > > > > > many Charts both,Horary and Natal...on many a > > > > forum...and I > > > > > > do not > > > > > > > > > > need any certificate from you...Simply because you > > said > > > > you > > > > > > are a > > > > > > > > > > beginner,I was just trying to help you learn K.P., > > > > > > better...from > > > > > > > > > > your mail it appears that you already kmow K.P., as > > much > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > a 'Pundit' should... > > > > > > > > > > > The best way to learn K.P., is to " do it > > > > > > > > > > yourself,if you make mistakes, > > > > > > > > > > > never mind,learn from them... > > > > > > > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 5:36:54 AM > > > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP > > > > > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why words and words again and never ever presenting > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > > > practically? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you know somehting about those matters as your > > > > saying, > > > > > > why > > > > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > > > you show with this practical live example chart > > for the > > > > > > benefits > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > KP learners? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will understand my analysis if you read the > > books > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Shanmugam, > > > > > > > > > > > Bhatt , K. Subramanium and K. Hariharan in respect > > of > > > > > > health and > > > > > > > > > > > miserable life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tin Win > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao > > Lajmi > > > > > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TW, > > > > > > > > > > > > I truly admire you for deftly trying to put the > > > > > > > > > > > ball back into my court...! > > > > > > > > > > > > As a matter of fact,if ,as you claim,you are a > > > > > > > > > > > learner...it will certainly be a very good > > exercise for > > > > > > you to > > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > out which houses the s/l of the Ascendant > > signifies ... > > > > > > (even if > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > need to take the help of books...) > > > > > > > > > > > > It will firstly, help you to determine the level > > of > > > > > > > > > > > the horoscope,and secondly to especially enable > > you to > > > > > > assess as > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > what percentage of the benefits promised by a > > > > planet,the > > > > > > person > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > actually destined to enjoy...during it's > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa/Bhukti/ Antara/sookshma. ..etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > For example,if is exalted and signifies II & > > > > > > > > > > > XI...and in a favourable sub...will such a person > > gain > > > > a > > > > > > huge > > > > > > > > > > amount > > > > > > > > > > > of wealth ? If not to what extent...High, > > Middle,Low > > > > or the > > > > > > > > > Lowest > > > > > > > > > > > level...etc. ! Only K.P. can help you reveal > > > > this...and so > > > > > > on... > > > > > > > > > > > > And, for example,if it signifies I,V,IX and X > > along > > > > > > > > > > > with III & VIII,a long life is promised...if it > > > > signifies > > > > > > Badhaka > > > > > > > > > > > and Maraka Houses...a short life is seen...while > > if the > > > > > > s/l of I > > > > > > > > > > > signifies VI...one will be sickly...the sickness > > will > > > > > > begin or > > > > > > > > > > > worsen during the conjoint periods of the > > > > significators of > > > > > > I & > > > > > > > > > > > VI...and so on... > > > > > > > > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant gives a fair idea of the > > > > > > > > > > > general health of a person ...its not being a > > > > significator > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > > > > > VI,VIII & XII ,shows GOOD health generally ... and > > so > > > > on... > > > > > > > > > > > > It is very important to first analyse the Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > thoroughly of any horoscope presented for > > analysis...as > > > > > > per our > > > > > > > > > > > revered Guruji KSK... > > > > > > > > > > > > I fervently hope you are doing this exercise with > > > > > > > > > > > every Birth Chart presented to you for your > > perusal and > > > > > > > > > analysis... > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore Tin Winji,I am looking forward to your > > > > > > > > > > > analyses... > > > > > > > > > > > > Wishing you the very best... > > > > > > > > > > > > With kind regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 8:13:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 > > STEP > > > > > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Could you kindly present your analysis of the > > s/l > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > Ascendant in depth for the benefits of all > > members of > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > Group > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > discuss and learn something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I've done my part as a KP learner and now I > > > > request > > > > > > you as a > > > > > > > > > > KP > > > > > > > > > > > > Senior to do your part. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao > > Lajmi > > > > > > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TW, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Excellent analysis indeed, but could you > > pl.analyse > > > > > > > > > > > > the s/l of the Ascendant in depth ? It should > > > > normally > > > > > > confirm > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > readings as being on the right track... > > > > > > > > > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant,assuming that the TOB > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > the exact one,that is...should indicate or > > atleast > > > > > > confirm all > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > findings... > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are your findings in this regard ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will be interesting to know...could you pl. > > > > > > > > > > > > throw some light on this ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in advance please... > > > > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 10:38:16 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 > > STEP > > > > > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DEPRESSION > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. 6th Sbl is Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. (Maha) Dasa lord Ra: 7; Asp Ju(3-1-10): Asp > > Sa+ > > > > (5- > > > > > > 11-12 & > > > > > > > > > > +2- > > > > > > > > > > > 4- > > > > > > > > > > > > 7- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8); Stl Ma(2-9); Sgl Me(4-7) (Note: No planet > > is in > > > > > > the star > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa, > > > > > > > > > > > > > which is the Sbl of 2,4,7,8.) Ra is in the sub > > of > > > > Ju(3- > > > > > > 1-10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. The occupation of 6th Sbl Ra in 7th and its > > > > > > connection > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > (mental stability), 5 (intelligence, mental > > > > stability) > > > > > > and 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > (higher > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind) may cause mental aberration. (K. > > Subramaniam) > > > > > > The other > > > > > > > > > > > > > possible causes to depression are Asc (head) > > Conj > > > > Ke(7) > > > > > > > > > (Note: > > > > > > > > > > > No > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet is in the star of Ke, which is the Sbl > > of 9 > > > > > > sending > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > native to USA in its Bhukti.); Mo (emotional > > mind) > > > > > > Aspt by Sa > > > > > > > > > > > > > (depression, miseries, 7-2-8-12); Me > > (intelligent > > > > > > mind) Conj > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > (7- > > > > > > > > > > > > 2- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6-8-12; 5th occupied by Sa, Ar (first rasi > > sign as > > > > > > head) Asp > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > > > > > and occupied by Ma(2-8); 6th Sbl Ra:8-12; 8th > > Sbl > > > > > > Sa+:8-12. > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th Sbl Mo+: 6-12+. (Note: No planet is in the > > > > star > > > > > > of Mo, > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Sbl of 12.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra's signification of 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & > > > > Maraka), 2 > > > > > > > > > > (Maraka) > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > unfavorable for health. The repeated > > signification > > > > of > > > > > > 4th, > > > > > > > > > > i.e. > > > > > > > > > > > 12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > to 5th, is also no good for mental stability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. However, there are the relieving factors > > such > > > > as: no > > > > > > > > > > support > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra's Sbl; Ra can not give it occupational > > result of > > > > > > 7th since > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > in its star. Ju's aspect (to Ra) alone is the > > > > > > exception to > > > > > > > > > > > relieve > > > > > > > > > > > > > the adverse effects of Badhaka. (Sri > > Shanmugam); > > > > Asc > > > > > > lord Ju > > > > > > > > > > Asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th and Mo; Asc Sbl Ju: 2-3-9-1-10 in its own > > sub; > > > > 6th > > > > > > Sbl Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > > signifies also 1-5-11, 8th Sbl Sa+ signifies > > also > > > > 5-11 > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > 12th > > > > > > > > > > > > Sbl > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo+ signifies also 11-5. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. From the above, the depression is expected > > to be > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa and no more in the coming Ju (Maha) Dasa > > since > > > > > > Ju: 2-3-9- > > > > > > > > > > 1- > > > > > > > > > > > 10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > in its own sub. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SETBACKS IN LIFE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. Dasa lord Ra: 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2 > > > > > > (Maraka) may > > > > > > > > > > > cause > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > miserable life during its Dasa. Another reason > > for > > > > the > > > > > > > > > failure > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > further higher study mi be due to a lack of > > 11th > > > > > > > > > signification > > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 9th Sbl Ke and another lack of 9, 11th > > > > > > signification by > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11th Sbl Me. But 12th Sbl Mo+ signifies both > > bad > > > > > > houses 5-12+ > > > > > > > > > > > (bad > > > > > > > > > > > > > luck, loss of money , cheated) and good houses > > 6-11 > > > > > > (good > > > > > > > > > > luck) > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > most importantly does not signify 8, 7 > > (Badhaka & > > > > > > Maraka), 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Maraka). And the life is expected to be much > > > > better > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > stable > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Ju Dasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. The marriage is promised and more than one > > is > > > > > > indicated. > > > > > > > > > > Love > > > > > > > > > > > > > marriage is found. Delay and obstacles in > > marriage > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > indicated > > > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > Punarphoo (although cancelled by Dr. Kar's > > theory); > > > > > > Sa's > > > > > > > > > > > > occupation > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the 5th house aspecting 7, 11, 2 houses; > > > > connection > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > 2,4,7, > > > > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > by the same Sbl Sa (here 8th is > > disappointment, and > > > > > > 4th is 12 > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > of love affairs) and Ra in 7th house. (Mars > > Dosha > > > > is > > > > > > > > > cancelled > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > it has been found not working in KP by 2 > > studies > > > > of the > > > > > > > > > > hundreds > > > > > > > > > > > > AA > > > > > > > > > > > > > charts.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9. As a KP learner, hit or miss prediction is > > that > > > > job > > > > > > > > > > > betterment > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be expected in the current running Ra- Ve > > dasa, > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Su dasa perhaps with difficulties and better > > > > life > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > coming > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju dasa with a possibility of foreign job.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Mr Tin Win for such detailed > > reply.For the > > > > > > benefit > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > members I would requsets veterans to kindly > > share > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regarding the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " > > > > <tw853@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (3) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. CHART DATA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla, 03-07-1977, 00:05 AM, > > > > Chandigarh > > > > > > (UT), > > > > > > > > > > > 30N42, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 76E48, New KP Ayanamsa 23-27-10, Asc Pi 15- > > 40- > > > > 22, > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > > > Dasa > > > > > > > > > > > Bal > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0Y- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0M- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. PAST EVENTS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Ra-Ra-Sa: July 1995, got admission in > > very > > > > > > reputed > > > > > > > > > engg > > > > > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Ra-Ju-Ra: June1999, managed to clear > > > > > > engineering with > > > > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra-Sa to Ra-Me-Me: appeared in IAS 3 > > times > > > > till > > > > > > July > > > > > > > > > > 2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldn't clear it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Ra-Me-Me: august 2002 to DEC 2003, > > worked > > > > in an > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > coaching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > institute in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > partnership with his teacher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) Ra-Me-Ra: Dec 2003, his partner cheated > > with > > > > > > him and > > > > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > opt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out of this institute > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) Ra-Me-Ju: from Dec 2003 to April 2004, > > under > > > > > > huge > > > > > > > > > > > > depression, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > idle and sitting in home > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) Ra-Me-Ra to Ra-Me-Ju: April 2004, got a > > > > (paper) > > > > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > proposal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from a daughter of IAS officer who was > > doing > > > > > > masters in > > > > > > > > > > > Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8) Ra-Ke-Ve: February 2005, got a marriage > > > > > > proposal from > > > > > > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > girl from Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9) Ra-Ke-Ve: march 2005, got the job in > > Airtel > > > > and > > > > > > worked > > > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > august 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10) Ra-Ke-Ju: august 15th 2005, left for > > USA > > > > and > > > > > > joined > > > > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > august 2005, however couldn't study there, > > > > stayed > > > > > > in USA > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months and couldn't study at all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11) Ra-Ve-Su: august 30th 2006, got divorce > > > > from > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12) Ra-Ve-Ma: January 2007, decided to come > > > > back to > > > > > > > > > India, > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > second girl didn't like this and broke off > > from > > > > > > the native > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today the native is on high dose of > > Anti > > > > > > depression > > > > > > > > > > > > drugs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > At > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > present he is doing job in Airtel again > > with > > > > > > salary of > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rs10000/. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. DASA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra: 03-07-1994 to 03-07-2012 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ra: 03-07-1994 to 14-03-1997 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ju: 15-03-1997 to 08-08-1999 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Sa: 09-08-1999 to 14-06-2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Me:15-06- 2002 to 31-12-2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ke: 01-01-2005 to 20-01-2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ve: 21-01-2006 to 20-01-2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Su: 21-01-2009 to 14-12-2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Mo: 15-12-2009 to 14-06-2011 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ma: 15-06-2011 to 03-07-2012 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju: 04-07-2012 to 03-07-2028 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Empty houses: 6, 8, 9, 10, 12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets with no planets in their stars > > (+): Mo, > > > > > > Sa, Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets in own stars (*): Nil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra is aspected by Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa aspects 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ve: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ve is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Su: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma > > (2- > > > > 9); > > > > > > Asp by Ju > > > > > > > > > > (3- > > > > > > > > > > > > 10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Ve: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Mo+: 11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Mo is Ve: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ma: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ve: 2-8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ra: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ra is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Sa+: 5-12; Asp 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Sa is Su: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma > > (2- > > > > 9); > > > > > > Asp by Ju > > > > > > > > > > (3- > > > > > > > > > > > > 10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Me: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ju: 3-10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Me is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. QUESTIONS TO 4 STEP PRACTITIONERS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Why did such setbacks happen in the > > already > > > > > > passed > > > > > > > > > part > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maha dasa, which primarily signifies only > > 2-9 > > > > > > houses? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) How about the future prospects in the > > rest > > > > of > > > > > > Ra dasa > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > respect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of marriage, carrier and finance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) How can be differentiated the results > > in the > > > > > > coming Ju > > > > > > > > > > > dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > compared to the present running Ju dasa > > since > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > primary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > significators are exactly the same, i.e. > > only > > > > 2-9 > > > > > > houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. REQUEST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the benefit of all members of this > > Group, > > > > > > kindly > > > > > > > > > > sharing > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > expertise that has been taught and learned > > is > > > > > > humbly > > > > > > > > > > > requested > > > > > > > > > > > > > (not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > free prediction which your Guruji didn't > > > > allow) by > > > > > > > > > > providing > > > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > necessary calculated data as above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tin Win > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks once again for your reply.Can you > > > > share > > > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > career as right now I am in huge career > > > > crisis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > > > > > ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not disclose how I do analysis. > > My 2 > > > > cents > > > > > > > > > advice > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that don't get married in rahu > > mahadasha. > > > > You > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the remaining period of rahu > > mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter period will be the best period > > in > > > > your > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > > > ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Group members and Mr singh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually I am new to kp > > astrology.Can you > > > > > > elaborate > > > > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > virgo is badhak ,as far as marak is > > > > > > concerned I > > > > > > > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th house in marak. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also please shed some light on the > > fact > > > > why > > > > > > > > > marraige > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unconventional > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marraige(I mean to say marriage only > > on > > > > > > papers and > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumation) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > took place in rahu-mer, and why it > > broke > > > > of > > > > > > in rah- > > > > > > > > > > > > > venus.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > say what is the role of venus bhukti > > in > > > > rahu > > > > > > maha > > > > > > > > > > > dasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Why my second engagement took off > > > > after > > > > > > 2.5 > > > > > > > > > years > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sustenence ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) When will my career get settled, > > will > > > > it > > > > > > be in > > > > > > > > > > > > busines > > > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > job? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) why i had to leave my masters > > degree > > > > in > > > > > > b/w and > > > > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to india in jan 2007, i mean to say > > why I > > > > > > couldnt > > > > > > > > > > > achive > > > > > > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > distinction in studies during the > > whole > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > dasha???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > > > > > ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are pisces ascendant. In your > > chart > > > > > > Rahu is > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Virgo sign in a worst placement > > because > > > > > > 7th house > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pisces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ascendant is both Badhaka and > > Maraka > > > > > > house. So > > > > > > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > acting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > badhaka and maraka planet for you. > > Also > > > > > > Rahu is > > > > > > > > > > > > aspected > > > > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of Jupiter on Rahu is > > very > > > > good > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > period from March 1997 to August > > 1999 > > > > must > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that time were favorable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of 12th lord Saturn on > > Rahu > > > > is > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > > bad, > > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > period from august 1999 to June > > 2002 > > > > must > > > > > > be very > > > > > > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at that time were also unfavorable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also the 6th lord sun is in the > > > > nakshatra > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you 6th house results during Rahu- > > Sun > > > > > > period in > > > > > > > > > > > 2009, > > > > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > health > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems or debts or separation in > > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should not get married during > > rahu > > > > dasa > > > > > > > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improve during Jupiter mahadasha > > after > > > > > > july 2012. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > > > > > ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > > > > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Guruji ji and other group > > > > > > members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My name is khushdev ,I have > > joined > > > > this > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > > recently.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system of astrology.I am in deep > > > > menatl > > > > > > pain , > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > requset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all to help me out of tis > > pain .My > > > > > > history is > > > > > > > > > > > > attached > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > below.Pls > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me out of this agony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name-Khushdev singla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth date- 03 july 1977 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time-00.05 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > place- chandigarh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 History > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am have been running the rahu > > dasha > > > > > > from mid > > > > > > > > > > > 1994 > > > > > > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having trouble in acedemics and > > > > career > > > > > > > > > > settlement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In july 1995 I got admission in > > very > > > > > > reputed > > > > > > > > > > engg > > > > > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > electrical stream.At that time I > > was > > > > > > suffering > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was put on depression pills by > > > > > > psychiatric. > > > > > > > > > > Though > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > GOT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ADMISSION , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I couldnt perform > > acedamically > > > > > > good .I used > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression and was unable to > > study at > > > > > > all.I > > > > > > > > > > > somehow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > managed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my engineering with much > > difficulty > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > June1999.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > opted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a job because i wanted to > > prepare > > > > > > for IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > exams.At > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > antardasha of saturn started , I > > put > > > > > > myself > > > > > > > > > > wholly > > > > > > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > putting all my career at stake.I > > > > appread > > > > > > in IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > july > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 but couldnt clear it , to my > > > > > > surprise the > > > > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting less marks than me in > > mock > > > > tests > > > > > > got > > > > > > > > > > > > > selected.My > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > failure > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a shock for me ,I opted to teach > > in > > > > an > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > coaching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > institute > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > partnership with my teacher.I > > worked > > > > > > there from > > > > > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dec > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2003.In dec 2003 my partner > > cheated > > > > with > > > > > > me and > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > opt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this institute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was job less and all my dreams > > were > > > > > > > > > > shattered,I > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > huge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression from dec 2003 to april > > > > > > 2004.During > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > time I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > idle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and was sitting in home.I even > > had > > > > > > feeling of > > > > > > > > > > > > > suicideTo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my anti depression pilss were > > still > > > > > > continuing > > > > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1994. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In april 2004 out of sudden I > > got a > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > proposal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > daughter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of IAS officer who was doing > > masters > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > canada.She > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > india > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > few days and wanted to get > > married > > > > to a > > > > > > guy in > > > > > > > > > > > > > india.We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decided > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for paper marriage and did > > entered > > > > into > > > > > > > > > physical > > > > > > > > > > > > > relation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We made a resolution that we will > > > > enetr > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > > physical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > relation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three months and will get formal > > > > > > ceremony done > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only.Meanwhile our plans were i > > will > > > > take > > > > > > > > > > > admission > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will do MTech from there.The girl > > > > left > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months she decided to discontinue > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > relation.Since > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > paper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marriage so we had to take a > > formal > > > > > > divorce. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile I got a marriage > > proposal > > > > from > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in feburary 2005.We got engaged I > > > > told > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prevous > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marraige > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so decided not to get married > > till my > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > annulled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was selected by a university in > > > > USA to > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > MTech > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > join > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from july 2005.Meanwhile I got > > the > > > > job in > > > > > > > > > Airtel > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > march > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worked for Airtel till august > > 2005.I > > > > > > left for > > > > > > > > > > USA > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005.The second girl was so nice > > she > > > > > > cooperated > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > waited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for me so that my divorce is > > > > cleared.I > > > > > > joined > > > > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However i couldnt study there ,I > > > > stayed > > > > > > in usa > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldnt study at all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On august 30th 2006 I got divorce > > > > from > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > > > girl.By > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > january > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I decided to come back to > > India .The > > > > > > second > > > > > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > > > > > didnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she broke off from me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today I am on high dose of > > Anti > > > > > > depression > > > > > > > > > > > drugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My questions are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Career > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At present I am doing job in > > Airtel > > > > > > again with > > > > > > > > > > > > salary > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rs10000/.I sometimes feel > > misearble > > > > that > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > study > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and doing BTech from reputed > > college > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and even going to USA for higher > > > > study > > > > > > why I am > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > > lowly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terms of career. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you see in future for my > > > > career. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should I do business or job , > > will I > > > > be > > > > > > able to > > > > > > > > > > > rise > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heights > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > career > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Marriage when will I get > > > > married.How > > > > > > will be > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will my partner be from high > > status > > > > > > family or > > > > > > > > > > > not.I > > > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good proposals for marriage at > > all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 Financial status how will be my > > > > > > financial > > > > > > > > > > > > > status.Some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology pandits say that after > > > > 2012 in > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dasha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rise like anything in career as > > it > > > > will > > > > > > be a > > > > > > > > > > dasha > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dashmesh.Is this true??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls help me out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 09876154877 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it > > now, > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > http://help. / l/in// > > mail/mail/ > > > > > > tools/tools- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 08.html/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message > > > > archive > > > > > > > > > > > online at http://in.messenger ./ > > > > webmessengerprom > > > > > > o.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. > > Go to > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > [Message clipped] > --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Thats a great idea. I totally agree. Ajoy. Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone Essar " Suprakash Ghosh " <suprakash.ghosh Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:39:42 To: RE: Re: Why 4 Step Method is comparatively good? My understanding is that the major point of objection of Twji is regarding the role of sublord in 4step method. Since this forum is for perfection of our knowledge, why not both TWji and Sunilji present the efficacy of 4Step and Traditional KP system by some case studies? I propose both of them present 5 cases each, which are difficult to explain by the respective methods. Regards Suprakash @gro <%40> ups.com [@gro <%40> ups.com] On Behalf Of tw853 Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:12 PM @gro <%40> ups.com Re: Why 4 Step Method is comparatively good? Dear Moderator Punit Pandey ji, Okay, no further discussion here and there, what is this group for? Only to listen what you want to say? Thanks and regards, tw @gro <%40> ups.com, " Punit Pandey " <punitp wrote: > > Dear Tw ji, > > When the discussion reaches to the stage where we start posting personal > profile from their website, to me it looks like it has gone beyond just > proving this point. Now the forum policy on the names is clear, let us have > no further discussion on it. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 7:17 AM, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji, > > > > I'm not against or objecting any method. Like some others I'm > > interested in old and new methods and so I've studied some of them > > and presented the analysis with their own names. My point it not to > > miss up with KP name sticking to KP like a snail and to use its own > > name, otherwise it's confusing for members whether the analysis is > > by KP or by another method. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > @gro <%40> ups.com <% 40>, " Punit > > Pandey " <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tw ji, > > > > > > If you contribution has not been appreciated, I would not be > > spending so > > > much time replying your emails. I jumped in only when I saw that > > it is going > > > beyond the expected level. I could clearly see the violation of > > two of our > > > guiding points as follows - > > > > > > > > > . Any type of Personal attack, flaming, or profane > > language will not > > > be tolerated. Members, please focus only on the subject and not > > deviate or > > > go off tangents on provocative indecent behaviour or language. > > > > > > . Please don't try to prove superiority of one branch of > > astrology > > > over another. In this group, all branches should be treated with > > equal > > > respect. Respect for other branches is essential for research and > > > discussion. > > > (Taken from forum constitution file) > > > > > > Please post clearly what you didn't expect from the moderator? The > > critical > > > analysis of any method is always welcome. But to the standard it > > has reached > > > recently is neither appreciated not accepted. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 4:01 PM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji, > > > > > > > > I've already told you I've nothing to say in this regard. If you > > asy > > > > so, who thouroughly studied this 4 step method and expalined > > clearly > > > > in this forum at one place for the learning for sure? Who did > > give a > > > > compilation of mesages to learn it? It is the same not expected > > from > > > > a moderator like you. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > @gro <%40> ups.com <% 40><% > > 40>, " Punit > > > > Pandey " <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tw ji, > > > > > > > > > > Instead of digging into old emails and searching for points > > > > related to > > > > > particular method, why can't we stop blaming and move on? Now > > as > > > > we have a > > > > > definition for stellar methods, why can't all those methods > > live > > > > together? > > > > > Quoting some sentence from an old email wihout the context > > presents > > > > > incorrect meaning. I don't know what is the intention here but > > for > > > > it is not > > > > > conductive for the learning for sure. It is not expected from a > > > > senior > > > > > member like you. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 8:28 AM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > If this is your thinking without any particular reason, I've > > > > nothing > > > > > > to say. Regarding discussion, are allowed for > > that > > > > > > purpose. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro <%40> ups.com <% 40><% > > 40><% > > > > > > 40>, " Punit > > > > > > > > > > Pandey " <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tw ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is what I think. I think that 4-step is a good enough > > > > method > > > > > > and > > > > > > > deserve discussion and critical analysis in this forum. > > That > > > > is the > > > > > > > reason that we always remained open for the discussion on > > 4- > > > > step. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because you have quoted it amidst of KP / Non-KP > > discussion, > > > > it is > > > > > > important > > > > > > > to clarify that " comparative good " has nothing to do with > > the > > > > > > comparison > > > > > > > with KP. This is comparison with generally available > > > > astrological > > > > > > system and > > > > > > > should be taken in that context. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope it answers your question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:59 PM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Moderator Punit Pandey ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you kindly elaborate why " 4 Step method is > > > > comparatively > > > > > > good " as > > > > > > > > you said below for the benefit of members and in order to > > > > move > > > > > > ahead from > > > > > > > > the prolonged Q & A stage of 4 step basic principles, > > which > > > > is > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > posted in the file section of this group under > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *A NOTE ON FOUR STEP > > > > > > > > THEORY.doc*<http://f1.grp. <http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/QKPjRwcgEXqlcBWctdNQn-> fs.com/v1/QKPjRwcgEXqlcBWctdNQn- > > > > > > D6sDjG_T9vVCByUzxoeKIuwgwp7- o8DecWg1il1EGOmngy5oiIYWnHMTa- > > > > > > YX1jboUZEw/A%20NOTE%20ON%20FOUR%20STEP%20THEORY.doc> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * > > > > > > > > A STUDY NOTE ON FOUR STEP THEORY . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro <%40> ups.com<% 40><% > > 40><% > > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > " Punit Pandey " <punitp@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, Tw ji, Sunil ji and members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I expect that all of us will maintain the decorum of > > the > > > > forum > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > will focus on learning, NOT on proving or disproving > > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All members involved here are senior members and I > > request > > > > > > everybody > > > > > > > > > to set example for other members. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 Step method is comparatively good and it is good to > > have > > > > a > > > > > > critical > > > > > > > > > analysis in an open forum. I am watching this thread > > very > > > > > > closely and > > > > > > > > > it seems that we have enough discussion. It is advised > > not > > > > to > > > > > > take it > > > > > > > > > further because it seems that we are deviating from the > > > > > > intention of > > > > > > > > > learning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro <%40> ups.com<% 40><% > > 40><% > > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@ > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear tw, > > > > > > > > > > What you've written is undiluted rubbish...it > > > > > > > > > thoroughly reveals your " paediatric mindset " > > > > > > > > > > ...and,in any case,this kind of paediatric game > > > > of " baiting " > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > not provoke me,Tin Win...try somewhere else ...Have you > > > > read > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > Berne's very famous book... " Games people play " ? If > > > > not ,pl. > > > > > > do,and I > > > > > > > > > assure you,after perusing it you could discover > > yourself > > > > and > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > exactly " what makes you tick " and hopefully,you will > > stop > > > > > > playing > > > > > > > > > such paediatric games... > > > > > > > > > > Shortcut methods,and " instant learning " is popular in > > > > > > > > > the US and abroad,it seems...with the help of a few > > > > examples > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > suit their preconceived ideas,they will pronounce > > > > > > an " axiom " ,as it > > > > > > > > > were...only to sheepishly regret it sooner than > > later... ! > > > > > > > > > > We in India,do not to such " instant > > > > > > > > > research " ... > > > > > > > > > > Practice K.P., and LEARN K.P., by practical > > > > > > > > > experience...instead of seeking instant knowledge... > > > > > > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 tw853@ > > > > > > > > > > @gro <%40> ups.com<% 40><% > > 40><% > > > > 40> > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 6:36:54 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP > > > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems you don't know how to apply what you're > > saying > > > > > > practically > > > > > > > > > > in the life examples. You can say on yourself for the > > > > sake of > > > > > > > > > saying > > > > > > > > > > only. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear tw853, > > > > > > > > > > > Words and words...? Ha Ha Ha...Cannot be > > > > > > > > > > helped,if people refuse to understand and argue for > > > > > > arguments' > > > > > > > > > > sake... > > > > > > > > > > > A question which I had asked you earlier,and > > > > > > > > > > went unanswered is being repeated...Just what are you > > > > trying > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > prove ? > > > > > > > > > > > If you are keen to impress people that you have > > > > > > > > > > more than enough knowledge of K.P., just because you > > have > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > > read various well-known books written by learned > > > > > > > > > K.P.stalwarts. ...I > > > > > > > > > > am not impressed... > > > > > > > > > > > Because, proper application and knowledge are > > > > > > > > > > two entirely different entities... > > > > > > > > > > > I have analysed and posted my analyses of very > > > > > > > > > > many Charts both,Horary and Natal...on many a > > > > forum...and I > > > > > > do not > > > > > > > > > > need any certificate from you...Simply because you > > said > > > > you > > > > > > are a > > > > > > > > > > beginner,I was just trying to help you learn K.P., > > > > > > better...from > > > > > > > > > > your mail it appears that you already kmow K.P., as > > much > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > a 'Pundit' should... > > > > > > > > > > > The best way to learn K.P., is to " do it > > > > > > > > > > yourself,if you make mistakes, > > > > > > > > > > > never mind,learn from them... > > > > > > > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 20 September, 2007 5:36:54 AM > > > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 STEP > > > > > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why words and words again and never ever presenting > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > > > practically? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you know somehting about those matters as your > > > > saying, > > > > > > why > > > > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > > > you show with this practical live example chart > > for the > > > > > > benefits > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > KP learners? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will understand my analysis if you read the > > books > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Shanmugam, > > > > > > > > > > > Bhatt , K. Subramanium and K. Hariharan in respect > > of > > > > > > health and > > > > > > > > > > > miserable life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tin Win > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao > > Lajmi > > > > > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TW, > > > > > > > > > > > > I truly admire you for deftly trying to put the > > > > > > > > > > > ball back into my court...! > > > > > > > > > > > > As a matter of fact,if ,as you claim,you are a > > > > > > > > > > > learner...it will certainly be a very good > > exercise for > > > > > > you to > > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > out which houses the s/l of the Ascendant > > signifies ... > > > > > > (even if > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > need to take the help of books...) > > > > > > > > > > > > It will firstly, help you to determine the level > > of > > > > > > > > > > > the horoscope,and secondly to especially enable > > you to > > > > > > assess as > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > what percentage of the benefits promised by a > > > > planet,the > > > > > > person > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > actually destined to enjoy...during it's > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa/Bhukti/ Antara/sookshma. ..etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > For example,if is exalted and signifies II & > > > > > > > > > > > XI...and in a favourable sub...will such a person > > gain > > > > a > > > > > > huge > > > > > > > > > > amount > > > > > > > > > > > of wealth ? If not to what extent...High, > > Middle,Low > > > > or the > > > > > > > > > Lowest > > > > > > > > > > > level...etc. ! Only K.P. can help you reveal > > > > this...and so > > > > > > on... > > > > > > > > > > > > And, for example,if it signifies I,V,IX and X > > along > > > > > > > > > > > with III & VIII,a long life is promised...if it > > > > signifies > > > > > > Badhaka > > > > > > > > > > > and Maraka Houses...a short life is seen...while > > if the > > > > > > s/l of I > > > > > > > > > > > signifies VI...one will be sickly...the sickness > > will > > > > > > begin or > > > > > > > > > > > worsen during the conjoint periods of the > > > > significators of > > > > > > I & > > > > > > > > > > > VI...and so on... > > > > > > > > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant gives a fair idea of the > > > > > > > > > > > general health of a person ...its not being a > > > > significator > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > > > > > VI,VIII & XII ,shows GOOD health generally ... and > > so > > > > on... > > > > > > > > > > > > It is very important to first analyse the Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > thoroughly of any horoscope presented for > > analysis...as > > > > > > per our > > > > > > > > > > > revered Guruji KSK... > > > > > > > > > > > > I fervently hope you are doing this exercise with > > > > > > > > > > > every Birth Chart presented to you for your > > perusal and > > > > > > > > > analysis... > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore Tin Winji,I am looking forward to your > > > > > > > > > > > analyses... > > > > > > > > > > > > Wishing you the very best... > > > > > > > > > > > > With kind regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 8:13:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 > > STEP > > > > > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Could you kindly present your analysis of the > > s/l > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > Ascendant in depth for the benefits of all > > members of > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > Group > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > discuss and learn something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I've done my part as a KP learner and now I > > > > request > > > > > > you as a > > > > > > > > > > KP > > > > > > > > > > > > Senior to do your part. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao > > Lajmi > > > > > > > > > > > <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TW, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Excellent analysis indeed, but could you > > pl.analyse > > > > > > > > > > > > the s/l of the Ascendant in depth ? It should > > > > normally > > > > > > confirm > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > readings as being on the right track... > > > > > > > > > > > > > The s/l of the Ascendant,assuming that the TOB > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > the exact one,that is...should indicate or > > atleast > > > > > > confirm all > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > findings... > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are your findings in this regard ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will be interesting to know...could you pl. > > > > > > > > > > > > throw some light on this ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in advance please... > > > > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 10:38:16 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: setbacks in life...4 > > STEP > > > > > > PRACTICAL > > > > > > > > > > > > EXAMPLE (3)- - - KP ANSWER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DEPRESSION > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. 6th Sbl is Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. (Maha) Dasa lord Ra: 7; Asp Ju(3-1-10): Asp > > Sa+ > > > > (5- > > > > > > 11-12 & > > > > > > > > > > +2- > > > > > > > > > > > 4- > > > > > > > > > > > > 7- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8); Stl Ma(2-9); Sgl Me(4-7) (Note: No planet > > is in > > > > > > the star > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa, > > > > > > > > > > > > > which is the Sbl of 2,4,7,8.) Ra is in the sub > > of > > > > Ju(3- > > > > > > 1-10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. The occupation of 6th Sbl Ra in 7th and its > > > > > > connection > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > (mental stability), 5 (intelligence, mental > > > > stability) > > > > > > and 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > (higher > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind) may cause mental aberration. (K. > > Subramaniam) > > > > > > The other > > > > > > > > > > > > > possible causes to depression are Asc (head) > > Conj > > > > Ke(7) > > > > > > > > > (Note: > > > > > > > > > > > No > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet is in the star of Ke, which is the Sbl > > of 9 > > > > > > sending > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > native to USA in its Bhukti.); Mo (emotional > > mind) > > > > > > Aspt by Sa > > > > > > > > > > > > > (depression, miseries, 7-2-8-12); Me > > (intelligent > > > > > > mind) Conj > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > (7- > > > > > > > > > > > > 2- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6-8-12; 5th occupied by Sa, Ar (first rasi > > sign as > > > > > > head) Asp > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > > > > > and occupied by Ma(2-8); 6th Sbl Ra:8-12; 8th > > Sbl > > > > > > Sa+:8-12. > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th Sbl Mo+: 6-12+. (Note: No planet is in the > > > > star > > > > > > of Mo, > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Sbl of 12.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra's signification of 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & > > > > Maraka), 2 > > > > > > > > > > (Maraka) > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > unfavorable for health. The repeated > > signification > > > > of > > > > > > 4th, > > > > > > > > > > i.e. > > > > > > > > > > > 12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > to 5th, is also no good for mental stability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. However, there are the relieving factors > > such > > > > as: no > > > > > > > > > > support > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra's Sbl; Ra can not give it occupational > > result of > > > > > > 7th since > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > in its star. Ju's aspect (to Ra) alone is the > > > > > > exception to > > > > > > > > > > > relieve > > > > > > > > > > > > > the adverse effects of Badhaka. (Sri > > Shanmugam); > > > > Asc > > > > > > lord Ju > > > > > > > > > > Asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th and Mo; Asc Sbl Ju: 2-3-9-1-10 in its own > > sub; > > > > 6th > > > > > > Sbl Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > > signifies also 1-5-11, 8th Sbl Sa+ signifies > > also > > > > 5-11 > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > 12th > > > > > > > > > > > > Sbl > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo+ signifies also 11-5. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. From the above, the depression is expected > > to be > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa and no more in the coming Ju (Maha) Dasa > > since > > > > > > Ju: 2-3-9- > > > > > > > > > > 1- > > > > > > > > > > > 10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > in its own sub. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SETBACKS IN LIFE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. Dasa lord Ra: 8, 12, 7 (Badhaka & Maraka), 2 > > > > > > (Maraka) may > > > > > > > > > > > cause > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > miserable life during its Dasa. Another reason > > for > > > > the > > > > > > > > > failure > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > further higher study mi be due to a lack of > > 11th > > > > > > > > > signification > > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 9th Sbl Ke and another lack of 9, 11th > > > > > > signification by > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11th Sbl Me. But 12th Sbl Mo+ signifies both > > bad > > > > > > houses 5-12+ > > > > > > > > > > > (bad > > > > > > > > > > > > > luck, loss of money , cheated) and good houses > > 6-11 > > > > > > (good > > > > > > > > > > luck) > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > most importantly does not signify 8, 7 > > (Badhaka & > > > > > > Maraka), 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Maraka). And the life is expected to be much > > > > better > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > stable > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Ju Dasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. The marriage is promised and more than one > > is > > > > > > indicated. > > > > > > > > > > Love > > > > > > > > > > > > > marriage is found. Delay and obstacles in > > marriage > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > indicated > > > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > Punarphoo (although cancelled by Dr. Kar's > > theory); > > > > > > Sa's > > > > > > > > > > > > occupation > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the 5th house aspecting 7, 11, 2 houses; > > > > connection > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > 2,4,7, > > > > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > by the same Sbl Sa (here 8th is > > disappointment, and > > > > > > 4th is 12 > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > of love affairs) and Ra in 7th house. (Mars > > Dosha > > > > is > > > > > > > > > cancelled > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > it has been found not working in KP by 2 > > studies > > > > of the > > > > > > > > > > hundreds > > > > > > > > > > > > AA > > > > > > > > > > > > > charts.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9. As a KP learner, hit or miss prediction is > > that > > > > job > > > > > > > > > > > betterment > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be expected in the current running Ra- Ve > > dasa, > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Su dasa perhaps with difficulties and better > > > > life > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > coming > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju dasa with a possibility of foreign job.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Mr Tin Win for such detailed > > reply.For the > > > > > > benefit > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > members I would requsets veterans to kindly > > share > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regarding the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " > > > > <tw853@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (3) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. CHART DATA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla, 03-07-1977, 00:05 AM, > > > > Chandigarh > > > > > > (UT), > > > > > > > > > > > 30N42, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 76E48, New KP Ayanamsa 23-27-10, Asc Pi 15- > > 40- > > > > 22, > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > > > Dasa > > > > > > > > > > > Bal > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0Y- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0M- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. PAST EVENTS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Ra-Ra-Sa: July 1995, got admission in > > very > > > > > > reputed > > > > > > > > > engg > > > > > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Ra-Ju-Ra: June1999, managed to clear > > > > > > engineering with > > > > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra-Sa to Ra-Me-Me: appeared in IAS 3 > > times > > > > till > > > > > > July > > > > > > > > > > 2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldn't clear it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Ra-Me-Me: august 2002 to DEC 2003, > > worked > > > > in an > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > coaching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > institute in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > partnership with his teacher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) Ra-Me-Ra: Dec 2003, his partner cheated > > with > > > > > > him and > > > > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > opt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out of this institute > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) Ra-Me-Ju: from Dec 2003 to April 2004, > > under > > > > > > huge > > > > > > > > > > > > depression, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > idle and sitting in home > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) Ra-Me-Ra to Ra-Me-Ju: April 2004, got a > > > > (paper) > > > > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > proposal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from a daughter of IAS officer who was > > doing > > > > > > masters in > > > > > > > > > > > Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8) Ra-Ke-Ve: February 2005, got a marriage > > > > > > proposal from > > > > > > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > girl from Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9) Ra-Ke-Ve: march 2005, got the job in > > Airtel > > > > and > > > > > > worked > > > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > august 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10) Ra-Ke-Ju: august 15th 2005, left for > > USA > > > > and > > > > > > joined > > > > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > august 2005, however couldn't study there, > > > > stayed > > > > > > in USA > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months and couldn't study at all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11) Ra-Ve-Su: august 30th 2006, got divorce > > > > from > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12) Ra-Ve-Ma: January 2007, decided to come > > > > back to > > > > > > > > > India, > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > second girl didn't like this and broke off > > from > > > > > > the native > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today the native is on high dose of > > Anti > > > > > > depression > > > > > > > > > > > > drugs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > At > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > present he is doing job in Airtel again > > with > > > > > > salary of > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rs10000/. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. DASA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra: 03-07-1994 to 03-07-2012 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ra: 03-07-1994 to 14-03-1997 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ju: 15-03-1997 to 08-08-1999 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Sa: 09-08-1999 to 14-06-2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Me:15-06- 2002 to 31-12-2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ke: 01-01-2005 to 20-01-2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ve: 21-01-2006 to 20-01-2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Su: 21-01-2009 to 14-12-2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Mo: 15-12-2009 to 14-06-2011 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra-Ma: 15-06-2011 to 03-07-2012 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju: 04-07-2012 to 03-07-2028 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Empty houses: 6, 8, 9, 10, 12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets with no planets in their stars > > (+): Mo, > > > > > > Sa, Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets in own stars (*): Nil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra is aspected by Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa aspects 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ve: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ve is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Su: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma > > (2- > > > > 9); > > > > > > Asp by Ju > > > > > > > > > > (3- > > > > > > > > > > > > 10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Ve: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Mo+: 11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Mo is Ve: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Su: 4-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ma: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ve: 2-8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Ke+: 1; Sgl Ju(3-10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ra: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ra is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Sa+: 5-12; Asp 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Sa is Su: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra: 7; Sgl Me(4); Stl Ma > > (2- > > > > 9); > > > > > > Asp by Ju > > > > > > > > > > (3- > > > > > > > > > > > > 10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Me: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ju: 3-10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Me is Ju: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma: 2-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. QUESTIONS TO 4 STEP PRACTITIONERS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Why did such setbacks happen in the > > already > > > > > > passed > > > > > > > > > part > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maha dasa, which primarily signifies only > > 2-9 > > > > > > houses? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) How about the future prospects in the > > rest > > > > of > > > > > > Ra dasa > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > respect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of marriage, carrier and finance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) How can be differentiated the results > > in the > > > > > > coming Ju > > > > > > > > > > > dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > compared to the present running Ju dasa > > since > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > primary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > significators are exactly the same, i.e. > > only > > > > 2-9 > > > > > > houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. REQUEST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the benefit of all members of this > > Group, > > > > > > kindly > > > > > > > > > > sharing > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > expertise that has been taught and learned > > is > > > > > > humbly > > > > > > > > > > > requested > > > > > > > > > > > > > (not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > free prediction which your Guruji didn't > > > > allow) by > > > > > > > > > > providing > > > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > necessary calculated data as above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tin Win > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks once again for your reply.Can you > > > > share > > > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > career as right now I am in huge career > > > > crisis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > > > > > ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not disclose how I do analysis. > > My 2 > > > > cents > > > > > > > > > advice > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that don't get married in rahu > > mahadasha. > > > > You > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the remaining period of rahu > > mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter period will be the best period > > in > > > > your > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > > > ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Group members and Mr singh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually I am new to kp > > astrology.Can you > > > > > > elaborate > > > > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > virgo is badhak ,as far as marak is > > > > > > concerned I > > > > > > > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th house in marak. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also please shed some light on the > > fact > > > > why > > > > > > > > > marraige > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unconventional > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marraige(I mean to say marriage only > > on > > > > > > papers and > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumation) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > took place in rahu-mer, and why it > > broke > > > > of > > > > > > in rah- > > > > > > > > > > > > > venus.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > say what is the role of venus bhukti > > in > > > > rahu > > > > > > maha > > > > > > > > > > > dasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Why my second engagement took off > > > > after > > > > > > 2.5 > > > > > > > > > years > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sustenence ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) When will my career get settled, > > will > > > > it > > > > > > be in > > > > > > > > > > > > busines > > > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > job? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) why i had to leave my masters > > degree > > > > in > > > > > > b/w and > > > > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to india in jan 2007, i mean to say > > why I > > > > > > couldnt > > > > > > > > > > > achive > > > > > > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > distinction in studies during the > > whole > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > dasha???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > > > > > ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are pisces ascendant. In your > > chart > > > > > > Rahu is > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Virgo sign in a worst placement > > because > > > > > > 7th house > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pisces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ascendant is both Badhaka and > > Maraka > > > > > > house. So > > > > > > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > acting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > badhaka and maraka planet for you. > > Also > > > > > > Rahu is > > > > > > > > > > > > aspected > > > > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of Jupiter on Rahu is > > very > > > > good > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > period from March 1997 to August > > 1999 > > > > must > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that time were favorable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The aspect of 12th lord Saturn on > > Rahu > > > > is > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > > bad, > > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > period from august 1999 to June > > 2002 > > > > must > > > > > > be very > > > > > > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at that time were also unfavorable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also the 6th lord sun is in the > > > > nakshatra > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you 6th house results during Rahu- > > Sun > > > > > > period in > > > > > > > > > > > 2009, > > > > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > health > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems or debts or separation in > > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should not get married during > > rahu > > > > dasa > > > > > > > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improve during Jupiter mahadasha > > after > > > > > > july 2012. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro > > > > > > ups.com, " kdsips " > > > > > > > > > > > <kdsips@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Guruji ji and other group > > > > > > members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My name is khushdev ,I have > > joined > > > > this > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > > recently.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system of astrology.I am in deep > > > > menatl > > > > > > pain , > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > requset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all to help me out of tis > > pain .My > > > > > > history is > > > > > > > > > > > > attached > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > below.Pls > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me out of this agony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name-Khushdev singla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth date- 03 july 1977 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time-00.05 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > place- chandigarh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 History > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am have been running the rahu > > dasha > > > > > > from mid > > > > > > > > > > > 1994 > > > > > > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having trouble in acedemics and > > > > career > > > > > > > > > > settlement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In july 1995 I got admission in > > very > > > > > > reputed > > > > > > > > > > engg > > > > > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > electrical stream.At that time I > > was > > > > > > suffering > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was put on depression pills by > > > > > > psychiatric. > > > > > > > > > > Though > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > GOT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ADMISSION , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I couldnt perform > > acedamically > > > > > > good .I used > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression and was unable to > > study at > > > > > > all.I > > > > > > > > > > > somehow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > managed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my engineering with much > > difficulty > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > June1999.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > opted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a job because i wanted to > > prepare > > > > > > for IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > exams.At > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > antardasha of saturn started , I > > put > > > > > > myself > > > > > > > > > > wholly > > > > > > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > putting all my career at stake.I > > > > appread > > > > > > in IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > july > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 but couldnt clear it , to my > > > > > > surprise the > > > > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting less marks than me in > > mock > > > > tests > > > > > > got > > > > > > > > > > > > > selected.My > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > failure > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a shock for me ,I opted to teach > > in > > > > an > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > coaching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > institute > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > partnership with my teacher.I > > worked > > > > > > there from > > > > > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dec > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2003.In dec 2003 my partner > > cheated > > > > with > > > > > > me and > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > opt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this institute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was job less and all my dreams > > were > > > > > > > > > > shattered,I > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > huge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depression from dec 2003 to april > > > > > > 2004.During > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > time I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > idle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and was sitting in home.I even > > had > > > > > > feeling of > > > > > > > > > > > > > suicideTo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my anti depression pilss were > > still > > > > > > continuing > > > > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1994. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In april 2004 out of sudden I > > got a > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > proposal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > daughter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of IAS officer who was doing > > masters > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > canada.She > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > india > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > few days and wanted to get > > married > > > > to a > > > > > > guy in > > > > > > > > > > > > > india.We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decided > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for paper marriage and did > > entered > > > > into > > > > > > > > > physical > > > > > > > > > > > > > relation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We made a resolution that we will > > > > enetr > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > > physical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > relation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three months and will get formal > > > > > > ceremony done > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only.Meanwhile our plans were i > > will > > > > take > > > > > > > > > > > admission > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will do MTech from there.The girl > > > > left > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months she decided to discontinue > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > relation.Since > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > paper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marriage so we had to take a > > formal > > > > > > divorce. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile I got a marriage > > proposal > > > > from > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in feburary 2005.We got engaged I > > > > told > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prevous > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marraige > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so decided not to get married > > till my > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > annulled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was selected by a university in > > > > USA to > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > MTech > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > join > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from july 2005.Meanwhile I got > > the > > > > job in > > > > > > > > > Airtel > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > march > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005.I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worked for Airtel till august > > 2005.I > > > > > > left for > > > > > > > > > > USA > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005.The second girl was so nice > > she > > > > > > cooperated > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > waited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for me so that my divorce is > > > > cleared.I > > > > > > joined > > > > > > > > > > > > college > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > august > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However i couldnt study there ,I > > > > stayed > > > > > > in usa > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldnt study at all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On august 30th 2006 I got divorce > > > > from > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > > > girl.By > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > january > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I decided to come back to > > India .The > > > > > > second > > > > > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > > > > > didnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she broke off from me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till today I am on high dose of > > Anti > > > > > > depression > > > > > > > > > > > drugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My questions are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Career > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At present I am doing job in > > Airtel > > > > > > again with > > > > > > > > > > > > salary > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rs10000/.I sometimes feel > > misearble > > > > that > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > study > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and doing BTech from reputed > > college > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and even going to USA for higher > > > > study > > > > > > why I am > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > > lowly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terms of career. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you see in future for my > > > > career. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should I do business or job , > > will I > > > > be > > > > > > able to > > > > > > > > > > > rise > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heights > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > career > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Marriage when will I get > > > > married.How > > > > > > will be > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will my partner be from high > > status > > > > > > family or > > > > > > > > > > > not.I > > > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good proposals for marriage at > > all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 Financial status how will be my > > > > > > financial > > > > > > > > > > > > > status.Some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology pandits say that after > > > > 2012 in > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dasha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rise like anything in career as > > it > > > > will > > > > > > be a > > > > > > > > > > dasha > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dashmesh.Is this true??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls help me out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khushdev Singla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 09876154877 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it > > now, > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > http://help. <http://help.> / l/in// > > mail/mail/ > > > > > > tools/tools- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 08.html/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message > > > > archive > > > > > > > > > > > online at http://in.messenger <http://in.messenger> ../ > > > > webmessengerprom > > > > > > o.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. > > Go to > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > [Message clipped] > --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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