Guest guest Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 dear swami, your query can be answerd by 4step theory. 7th sub is sun signify 5th house which is suppotive house for marriage in 4 step theory.so marriage is indicated.sun in moon star moon in fixed sign indicates marital happiness also earlier marriage. rahu dasa was operating and signifies 2-11 houses.bhukti lord jupiter signify 5th house thus completing chain.so marriage performed in jup.bhukti and jupiter antara.now coming to closer period i have selected venus sookshma because venus is karaka of marriage and also signify 2-5-7 houses.thus completed the chain of 2-7-11. this period is from 21-3-1970 to 9-04-1970. actual marriage was celebrated on 8-5-1970,which is very close to the actual. -sunil gondhalekar On 3/28/08, swami <swami wrote: Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Thanks Swami for such an interesting chart. Trying to solve. Suprakash On Behalf Of swami Friday, March 28, 2008 6:54 PM KP_marriage Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 7th cusp sublord is Sun Sun ---- Moon 4,5 ( remember moon is in star of sun in 6) Merc(+) 6, conj Sun 6, conj Jup 9,12,6 Moon 4,5 As per 4step theory, sub part of the sublord sun though signifies 5,it also signifies 4 (Negation) and strongly signifies 6.(Sub lord of the sublord, Mrc, is also subord of 8 & 10th cusp.) With strong 4,6,10,12 significance in its bag, what can Merc give? I have very doubt that only 5th significance played the trick. Even if, as per Sunilji, 5th significance played the role, he cuspal significance never show prospect for a 'Happy Married Life'. Let us see what the Lagna says Lagna sublord is Mars Mars(+) 1,3,8 asp Me 6 Jup 6,9,12 Jup ------ Moon 5 Lagna may indicate Love affair, but doesn't strongly indicate marriage, more specifically a 'Happy Marriage'. Karaka Venus: Venus(*) 5,7 Venus 5,7 Rahu 2,3,6 Rahu 2,3,6 Venus signification is better, though sub signification in not so favourable. (Ven is sublord of both 6th and 11th) I openly confess that had this been a blind chart, I would have come to a conclusion of delayed /disturbed marriage or even no marriage as there is no prominent role of 7 and 11 . Suprakash , " sunil gondhalekar " <sunilalaka wrote: > > dear swami, > your query can be answerd by 4step theory. > 7th sub is sun signify 5th house which is suppotive house for > marriage in 4 step theory.so marriage is indicated.sun in moon star > moon in fixed sign indicates marital happiness also earlier marriage. > rahu dasa was operating and signifies 2-11 houses.bhukti lord jupiter > signify 5th house thus completing chain.so marriage performed in jup.bhuktiand > jupiter antara.now coming to closer period i have selected venus sookshma > because venus is karaka of marriage and also signify 2-5-7 houses.thus > completed the chain of 2-7-11. > this period is from 21-3-1970 to 9-04-1970. > actual marriage was celebrated on 8-5-1970,which is very close to the > actual. > -sunil gondhalekar > > > On 3/28/08, swami <swami wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? > > > > Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. > > > > He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be > > appreciated. > > > > With kind regards. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Dear Members In this case 7th cuspal sublord is SUN. According to 4 step theory its significations are as below Sun -- -- Its star lord Moon....5,4 (Saturn's 3rd aspect) 3, 10,11 Sub Mercury...........6 Conj Sun 6 mars aspect 3, 1 Sub's starlord Moon...5, 4 (Aspect of Saturn) 3, 10, 11 Thus sun is a strong signifiactor of 11th house and supporting house 5th. This is the reason marriage is promised. Here saturn's aspect within an orb of 1 Deg 8 Min 19 sec makes the difference. The DBAS at the time of marriage was Ra-Ju-Ju-Ra Rahu is strong significator of houses 2 and 11 and Jup is strong significator of houses 11 and 5. Thus DBAS also promise marriage. Shri. Gondhalekar ji selected Ven sookshma for 2 reasons: (1) It is karaka of marriage (2) It is the only planet signifying 7th house to complete the chain of DBAS However it is observed that the supporting house 5 many times plays a role of 7th house for completing the chain. Thus as per 4 step theory marriage is definately promised as actually celebrated. Subhash Ektare , " S.Ghosh " <suprakash.ghosh wrote: > > 7th cusp sublord is Sun > > Sun ---- > > Moon 4,5 ( remember moon is in star of sun in 6) > > > Merc(+) 6, conj Sun 6, conj Jup 9,12,6 > > Moon 4,5 > > > As per 4step theory, sub part of the sublord sun though signifies 5,it > also signifies 4 (Negation) and strongly signifies 6.(Sub lord of the > sublord, Mrc, is also subord of 8 & 10th cusp.) > > With strong 4,6,10,12 significance in its bag, what can Merc give? I > have very doubt that only 5th significance played the trick. > > Even if, as per Sunilji, 5th significance played the role, he cuspal > significance never show prospect for a 'Happy Married Life'. > > > Let us see what the Lagna says > > > Lagna sublord is Mars > > Mars(+) 1,3,8 asp Me 6 > > Jup 6,9,12 > > Jup ------ > > Moon 5 > > > Lagna may indicate Love affair, but doesn't strongly indicate > marriage, more specifically a 'Happy Marriage'. > > > Karaka Venus: > > Venus(*) 5,7 > > Venus 5,7 > > Rahu 2,3,6 > > Rahu 2,3,6 > > Venus signification is better, though sub signification in not so > favourable. (Ven is sublord of both 6th and 11th) > > I openly confess that had this been a blind chart, I would have come > to a conclusion of delayed /disturbed marriage or even no marriage as > there is no prominent role of 7 and 11 . > > > Suprakash > > > > , " sunil gondhalekar " > <sunilalaka@> wrote: > > > > dear swami, > > your query can be answerd by 4step theory. > > 7th sub is sun signify 5th house which is suppotive house for > > marriage in 4 step theory.so marriage is indicated.sun in moon star > > moon in fixed sign indicates marital happiness also earlier marriage. > > rahu dasa was operating and signifies 2-11 houses.bhukti lord jupiter > > signify 5th house thus completing chain.so marriage performed in > jup.bhuktiand > > jupiter antara.now coming to closer period i have selected venus > sookshma > > because venus is karaka of marriage and also signify 2-5-7 houses.thus > > completed the chain of 2-7-11. > > this period is from 21-3-1970 to 9-04-1970. > > actual marriage was celebrated on 8-5-1970,which is very close to the > > actual. > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > > > On 3/28/08, swami <swami@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? > > > > > > Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 > 78E02. > > > > > > He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be > > > appreciated. > > > > > > With kind regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Dear Swamiji My analysis by 4step theory 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40'=5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage. SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there. Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU-RAHU RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12 GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10 Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain) TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp) RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8) Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7) Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree ) This shows the favourable transit. Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70 Regards Dr Sheetal On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami wrote: Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 dear swamiji, can you post your observation on the chart presented by you?i am eagerly waitng for your analysis -sunil gondhalekar On 4/4/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: Dear Swamiji My analysis by 4step theory 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40'=5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage. SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there. Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU-RAHU RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12 GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10 Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain) TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp) RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8) Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7) Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree ) This shows the favourable transit. Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70 Regards Dr Sheetal On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami wrote: Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah || Hari Om, Dear Sunil Ji and other friends, I feel grateful for wonderful responses. I am waiting , if Someone can suggest , How marriage is shown and timed using only KP , (Using RP and or fruitful significators selection based on "Sublords.Theory and its application". I shall post my observation after Navratri More on this thread. With regards and gratitude to all those cared to respond and spent valuale time. OM TATSAT-----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - sunil gondhalekar Monday, April 07, 2008 2:52 PM Re: KP_marriage dear swamiji, can you post your observation on the chart presented by you?i am eagerly waitng for your analysis -sunil gondhalekar On 4/4/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag > wrote: Dear Swamiji My analysis by 4step theory 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40'=5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage. SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there. Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU-RAHU RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12 GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10 Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain) TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp) RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8) Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7) Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree ) This shows the favourable transit. Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70 Regards Dr Sheetal On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Dear Swamiji, I would certainly love to answer your query in detail...but it is too long an answer to give here... The following steps need to be followed : 1) Whether it is a Horary or Natal Chart,the s/l of the Ascendant should be thoroughly examined to check whether it signifies marriage or not,if it does,marriage is promised... 2) Next check whether Moon confirms the query or not,in a Horary Chart. If not,stop analysing further...take a fresh number on another day and analyse. 3) Check whether the s/l of the VIIth,signifies II,VII or XI... if this obtains then proceed with analysis...if it is a love -marriage examine the Vth cusp varefully...s/l of V signifying II,VII or XI promises a love marriage... 4) Check the posithion of the XIth cusp,for timing the event...in which sign it is situated...Moveable,fixed or common sign accordingly, marriage will take place within days(take Moon's transit),or within a few months(Sun's Transit) or, within a few years (Jupiter's transit)... 5) While timing the event,ensure that the Dasa-Bhukti-Anthara-Sookshma lords, the RPs as well as the significators of II,VII & XI (and V) all agree... 6) The strongest among the significators are those whose stars are untenanted... these will alone give results...for certain... The above,in my humble opinion is a stepwise,systematic method of arriving at the fruitful significators,the correct D-B-A-S and fix the date by using the appropriate Transit... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. swami <swami Sent: Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 11:55:39 AMRe: KP_marriage || Om Gurave Namah || Hari Om, Dear Sunil Ji and other friends, I feel grateful for wonderful responses.. I am waiting , if Someone can suggest , How marriage is shown and timed using only KP , (Using RP and or fruitful significators selection based on "Sublords.Theory and its application" . I shall post my observation after Navratri More on this thread. With regards and gratitude to all those cared to respond and spent valuale time. OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - sunil gondhalekar @gro ups.com Monday, April 07, 2008 2:52 PM Re: KP_marriage dear swamiji, can you post your observation on the chart presented by you?i am eagerly waitng for your analysis -sunil gondhalekar On 4/4/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Swamiji My analysis by 4step theory 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40' =5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage. SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there. Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU- RAHU RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12 GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10 Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain) TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp) RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8) Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7) Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree ) This shows the favourable transit. Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70 Regards Dr Sheetal On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Dear Sir, I am also agree with your views and it is the correct ways to analyse for any chart. We will learn more after doing practice. with regards, Mr Ghosh. Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 Cc: Swamiji <swamiTuesday, 8 April, 2008 8:13:59 PMRe: KP_marriage Dear Swamiji, I would certainly love to answer your query in detail...but it is too long an answer to give here... The following steps need to be followed : 1) Whether it is a Horary or Natal Chart,the s/l of the Ascendant should be thoroughly examined to check whether it signifies marriage or not,if it does,marriage is promised... 2) Next check whether Moon confirms the query or not,in a Horary Chart. If not,stop analysing further...take a fresh number on another day and analyse. 3) Check whether the s/l of the VIIth,signifies II,VII or XI.... if this obtains then proceed with analysis...if it is a love -marriage examine the Vth cusp varefully... s/l of V signifying II,VII or XI promises a love marriage... 4) Check the posithion of the XIth cusp,for timing the event...in which sign it is situated...Moveable ,fixed or common sign accordingly, marriage will take place within days(take Moon's transit),or within a few months(Sun's Transit) or, within a few years (Jupiter's transit)... 5) While timing the event,ensure that the Dasa-Bhukti- Anthara-Sookshma lords, the RPs as well as the significators of II,VII & XI (and V) all agree... 6) The strongest among the significators are those whose stars are untenanted... . these will alone give results...for certain.... The above,in my humble opinion is a stepwise,systematic method of arriving at the fruitful significators, the correct D-B-A-S and fix the date by using the appropriate Transit... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 8 April, 2008 11:55:39 AMRe: KP_marriage || Om Gurave Namah || Hari Om, Dear Sunil Ji and other friends, I feel grateful for wonderful responses.. I am waiting , if Someone can suggest , How marriage is shown and timed using only KP , (Using RP and or fruitful significators selection based on "Sublords.Theory and its application" . I shall post my observation after Navratri More on this thread. With regards and gratitude to all those cared to respond and spent valuale time. OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - sunil gondhalekar @gro ups.com Monday, April 07, 2008 2:52 PM Re: KP_marriage dear swamiji, can you post your observation on the chart presented by you?i am eagerly waitng for your analysis -sunil gondhalekar On 4/4/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Swamiji My analysis by 4step theory 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40' =5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage. SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there. Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU- RAHU RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12 GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10 Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain) TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp) RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8) Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7) Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree ) This shows the favourable transit. Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70 Regards Dr Sheetal On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it.. From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 its really great sir the way u explained the application of RP's and dasha.....thanks a lot sir--- On Tue, 8/4/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1Re: KP_marriage Cc: "Swamiji" <swamiTuesday, 8 April, 2008, 8:13 PM Dear Swamiji, I would certainly love to answer your query in detail...but it is too long an answer to give here... The following steps need to be followed : 1) Whether it is a Horary or Natal Chart,the s/l of the Ascendant should be thoroughly examined to check whether it signifies marriage or not,if it does,marriage is promised... 2) Next check whether Moon confirms the query or not,in a Horary Chart. If not,stop analysing further...take a fresh number on another day and analyse. 3) Check whether the s/l of the VIIth,signifies II,VII or XI... if this obtains then proceed with analysis...if it is a love -marriage examine the Vth cusp varefully... s/l of V signifying II,VII or XI promises a love marriage... 4) Check the posithion of the XIth cusp,for timing the event...in which sign it is situated...Moveable ,fixed or common sign accordingly, marriage will take place within days(take Moon's transit),or within a few months(Sun's Transit) or, within a few years (Jupiter's transit)... 5) While timing the event,ensure that the Dasa-Bhukti- Anthara-Sookshma lords, the RPs as well as the significators of II,VII & XI (and V) all agree... 6) The strongest among the significators are those whose stars are untenanted.. . these will alone give results...for certain... The above,in my humble opinion is a stepwise,systematic method of arriving at the fruitful significators, the correct D-B-A-S and fix the date by using the appropriate Transit... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 8 April, 2008 11:55:39 AMRe: KP_marriage || Om Gurave Namah || Hari Om, Dear Sunil Ji and other friends, I feel grateful for wonderful responses.. I am waiting , if Someone can suggest , How marriage is shown and timed using only KP , (Using RP and or fruitful significators selection based on "Sublords.Theory and its application" . I shall post my observation after Navratri More on this thread. With regards and gratitude to all those cared to respond and spent valuale time. OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - sunil gondhalekar @gro ups.com Monday, April 07, 2008 2:52 PM Re: KP_marriage dear swamiji, can you post your observation on the chart presented by you?i am eagerly waitng for your analysis -sunil gondhalekar On 4/4/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Swamiji My analysis by 4step theory 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40' =5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage. SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there. Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU- RAHU RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12 GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10 Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain) TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp) RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8) Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7) Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree ) This shows the favourable transit. Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70 Regards Dr Sheetal On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Dear Sir You have given correct method of analysis for marriage either by horary or natal, and everybody has to agree to it. But here Mr Swami has given the date of birth and date of marriage and his querry is " how this man married on this date and how is his marriatal happiness.? " So we have to solve the chart retrospectively concentrating on the perticular date/period so method will definitely little different as many steps will be omitted from the analysis. So do u think RPs will help here? If yes then plz explain how? Just give ur valuable guidence. Sir I request u to give the stepwise method for this perticular case with given birth data and marriage dt ,how to solve retrospectively when answer is given so that it will help many students like me. Its a request. Thanks and Regards Dr Sheetal Dear Sir, I am also agree with your views and it is the correct ways to analyse for any chart. We will learn more after doing practice. with regards, Mr Ghosh. Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 Cc: Swamiji <swamiTuesday, 8 April, 2008 8:13:59 PMRe: KP_marriage Dear Swamiji, I would certainly love to answer your query in detail...but it is too long an answer to give here... The following steps need to be followed : 1) Whether it is a Horary or Natal Chart,the s/l of the Ascendant should be thoroughly examined to check whether it signifies marriage or not,if it does,marriage is promised... 2) Next check whether Moon confirms the query or not,in a Horary Chart. If not,stop analysing further...take a fresh number on another day and analyse. 3) Check whether the s/l of the VIIth,signifies II,VII or XI.... if this obtains then proceed with analysis...if it is a love -marriage examine the Vth cusp varefully... s/l of V signifying II,VII or XI promises a love marriage... 4) Check the posithion of the XIth cusp,for timing the event...in which sign it is situated...Moveable ,fixed or common sign accordingly, marriage will take place within days(take Moon's transit),or within a few months(Sun's Transit) or, within a few years (Jupiter's transit)... 5) While timing the event,ensure that the Dasa-Bhukti- Anthara-Sookshma lords, the RPs as well as the significators of II,VII & XI (and V) all agree... 6) The strongest among the significators are those whose stars are untenanted... . these will alone give results...for certain.... The above,in my humble opinion is a stepwise,systematic method of arriving at the fruitful significators, the correct D-B-A-S and fix the date by using the appropriate Transit... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> @gro ups.comTuesday, 8 April, 2008 11:55:39 AMRe: KP_marriage || Om Gurave Namah || Hari Om, Dear Sunil Ji and other friends, I feel grateful for wonderful responses.. I am waiting , if Someone can suggest , How marriage is shown and timed using only KP , (Using RP and or fruitful significators selection based on " Sublords.Theory and its application " . I shall post my observation after Navratri More on this thread. With regards and gratitude to all those cared to respond and spent valuale time. OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - sunil gondhalekar @gro ups.com Monday, April 07, 2008 2:52 PM Re: KP_marriage dear swamiji, can you post your observation on the chart presented by you?i am eagerly waitng for your analysis -sunil gondhalekar On 4/4/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Swamiji My analysis by 4step theory 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40' =5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage. SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there. Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU- RAHU RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12 GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10 Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain) TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp) RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8) Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7) Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree ) This shows the favourable transit. Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70 Regards Dr Sheetal On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it.. From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Dear Swamiji, I would certainly love to answer your query in detail...but it is too long an answer to give here... The following steps need to be followed : 1) Whether it is a Horary or Natal Chart,the s/l of the Ascendant should be thoroughly examined to check whether it signifies marriage or not,if it does,marriage is promised... 2) Next check whether Moon confirms the query or not,in a Horary Chart. If not,stop analysing further...take a fresh number on another day and analyse. 3) Check whether the s/l of the VIIth,signifies II,VII or XI... if this obtains then proceed with analysis...if it is a love -marriage examine the Vth cusp varefully...s/l of V signifying II,VII or XI promises a love marriage... 4) Check the posithion of the XIth cusp,for timing the event...in which sign it is situated...Moveable,fixed or common sign accordingly, marriage will take place within days(take Moon's transit),or within a few months(Sun's Transit) or, within a few years (Jupiter's transit)... 5) While timing the event,ensure that the Dasa-Bhukti-Anthara-Sookshma lords, the RPs as well as the significators of II,VII & XI (and V) all agree... 6) The strongest among the significators are those whose stars are untenanted... these will alone give results...for certain... The above,in my humble opinion is a stepwise,systematic method of arriving at the fruitful significators,the correct D-B-A-S and fix the date by using the appropriate Transit... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. swami <swami Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 11:55:39 AMRe: KP_marriage || Om Gurave Namah || Hari Om,Dear Sunil Ji and other friends,I feel grateful for wonderful responses..I am waiting , if Someone can suggest , How marriage is shown and timed using only KP , (Using RP and or fruitful significators selection based on " Sublords.Theory and its application " . I shall post my observation after Navratri More on this thread.With regards and gratitude to all those cared to respondand spent valuale time. OM TATSAT On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Swamiji, I would certainly love to answer your query in detail...but it is too long an answer to give here... The following steps need to be followed : 1) Whether it is a Horary or Natal Chart,the s/l of the Ascendant should be thoroughly examined to check whether it signifies marriage or not,if it does,marriage is promised... 2) Next check whether Moon confirms the query or not,in a Horary Chart. If not,stop analysing further...take a fresh number on another day and analyse. 3) Check whether the s/l of the VIIth,signifies II,VII or XI... if this obtains then proceed with analysis...if it is a love -marriage examine the Vth cusp varefully...s/l of V signifying II,VII or XI promises a love marriage... 4) Check the posithion of the XIth cusp,for timing the event...in which sign it is situated...Moveable,fixed or common sign accordingly, marriage will take place within days(take Moon's transit),or within a few months(Sun's Transit) or, within a few years (Jupiter's transit)... 5) While timing the event,ensure that the Dasa-Bhukti-Anthara-Sookshma lords, the RPs as well as the significators of II,VII & XI (and V) all agree... 6) The strongest among the significators are those whose stars are untenanted... these will alone give results...for certain... The above,in my humble opinion is a stepwise,systematic method of arriving at the fruitful significators,the correct D-B-A-S and fix the date by using the appropriate Transit... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. swami <swami Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 11:55:39 AMRe: KP_marriage || Om Gurave Namah || Hari Om, Dear Sunil Ji and other friends, I feel grateful for wonderful responses.. I am waiting , if Someone can suggest , How marriage is shown and timed using only KP , (Using RP and or fruitful significators selection based on " Sublords.Theory and its application " . I shall post my observation after Navratri More on this thread. With regards and gratitude to all those cared to respond and spent valuale time. OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - sunil gondhalekar @gro ups.com Monday, April 07, 2008 2:52 PM Re: KP_marriage dear swamiji, can you post your observation on the chart presented by you?i am eagerly waitng for your analysis -sunil gondhalekar On 4/4/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Swamiji My analysis by 4step theory 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40' =5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage. SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there. Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU- RAHU RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12 GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10 Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain) TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp) RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8) Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7) Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree ) This shows the favourable transit. Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70 Regards Dr Sheetal On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 the 7th house sub sun is in star of moon so uselss.sun is in constellation of moon the significator of 4th and 5th. and in sub of mercury(6,12,2,9)this mercury too in constelation of 3,5,11,4,10.This combination though gets him married due to 2,11 and 5 but 6,12 and 4 are stronger.in shani bhukti he must have been divorced due to shani being significator of 4,10 its const jupiter .being 6,12 and sub mars being1.again constellation of mars is jupiter which is 6,12.in addition to 2,11 though.no role of 7th significator in spite of all manipulations expect ketu"s 9th non-kp aspect on venus which gives it 7th aspect.he loved the girl first due to 5th and 9th signification of sun the 7th sub.the marriage would have been dissolved around 8.10.1970.serious medical problem may be one reason for non functional marriage .without involvement of of seventh house this fate ought to have happend -preeti singh Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 in continuation of my mail sent just now pl. note-rahu conj 4 and ketu 10.also sun mercu.and jupiter are exchangable all three with in orbit of 3.20.guru also aspects 2nd and saturn aspect moon.thanx-preeti singh Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Respected Lajmiji, Sir, You will please excuse me for my ignorance but I fail to understand as to why the sub of the ascendant should be examined for marriage! Or are you suggesting that we should also examine whether the would be wife , represented by the 7th of the 7th house i.e. the ascendent itself, has marriage in her store? regards, sujatkaram , Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: > > Dear Swamiji, > I would certainly love to answer your query in > detail...but it is too long an answer to give here... > The following steps need to be followed : > 1) Whether it is a *Horary or Natal Chart*,*the > s/l of the Ascendant* *should be thoroughly examined to check whether it > signifies marriage or not,if it does,marriage is promised... > * 2) Next check whether Moon confirms the query > or not,in a Horary Chart. > If not,stop analysing further...take a fresh > number on another day and analyse. > 3) Check whether the s/l of the VIIth,signifies > II,VII or XI... if this obtains then proceed with analysis...if it is a love > -marriage examine the Vth cusp varefully...s/l of V signifying II,VII or XI > promises a love marriage... > 4) Check the posithion of the XIth cusp,for > timing the event...in which sign it is situated...Moveable,fixed or common > sign accordingly, marriage will take place within days(take Moon's > transit),or within a few months(Sun's Transit) or, within a few years > (Jupiter's transit)... > 5) While timing the event,ensure that the > Dasa-Bhukti-Anthara-Sookshma lords, the RPs as well as the significators of > II,VII & XI (and V) all agree... > 6) The strongest among the significators are > those whose stars are untenanted... these will alone give results...for > certain... > > The above,in my humble opinion is a > stepwise,systematic method of arriving at the fruitful significators,the > correct D-B-A-S and fix the date by using the appropriate Transit... > > With best wishes, > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > swami <swami > > > Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 11:55:39 AM > Re: KP_marriage > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > Hari Om, > Dear Sunil Ji and other friends, > I feel grateful for wonderful responses.. > I am waiting , if Someone can suggest , How marriage is shown and timed > using only KP , (Using RP and or fruitful significators selection based on > " Sublords.Theory and its application " . > I shall post my observation after Navratri More on this thread. > With regards and gratitude to all those cared to respond > and spent valuale time. > OM TATSAT > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 > wrote: > > > Dear Swamiji, > > I would certainly love to answer your query in > > detail...but it is too long an answer to give here... > > The following steps need to be followed : > > 1) Whether it is a Horary or Natal Chart,the > > s/l of the Ascendant should be thoroughly examined to check whether it > > signifies marriage or not,if it does,*marriage is promised...* > > 2) Next check whether Moon confirms the query > > or not,*in a Horary Chart*. > > *If not,stop* *analysing further*...take a > > fresh number on another day and analyse. > > 3) Check whether the s/l of the > > VIIth,signifies II,VII or XI... if this obtains then proceed with > > analysis...if it is a love -marriage examine the Vth cusp varefully...s/l of > > V signifying II,VII or XI promises a love marriage... > > 4) Check the posithion of the XIth cusp,for > > timing the event...in which sign it is situated...Moveable,fixed or common > > sign accordingly, marriage will take place within days(take Moon's > > transit),or within a few months(Sun's Transit) or, within a few years > > (Jupiter's transit)... > > 5) While timing the event,ensure that the > > Dasa-Bhukti-Anthara-Sookshma lords, the RPs as well as the significators of > > II,VII & XI (and V) *all agree*... > > 6) *The strongest among the significators are > > those whose stars are untenanted... these will alone give results...for > > certain...* > > ** > > The above,in my humble opinion is a > > stepwise,systematic method of arriving at the fruitful significators,the > > correct D-B-A-S and *fix* the date by using* *the appropriate *Transit...* > > > > ** > > > > * * With best wishes, > > > > * *L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > swami <swami > > > > Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 11:55:39 AM > > Re: KP_marriage > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Hari Om, > > Dear Sunil Ji and other friends, > > I feel grateful for wonderful responses.. > > I am waiting , if Someone can suggest , How marriage is shown and timed > > using only KP , (Using RP and or fruitful significators selection based on > > " Sublords.Theory and its application " . > > I shall post my observation after Navratri More on this thread. > > With regards and gratitude to all those cared to respond > > and spent valuale time. > > OM TATSAT > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has > > created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --- ------ > > -- > > > > - > > ** sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka > > *To:* @gro ups.com > > *Sent:* Monday, April 07, 2008 2:52 PM > > *Subject:* Re: KP_marriage > > > > dear swamiji, > > can you post your observation on the chart > > presented by you?i am eagerly waitng for your analysis > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > > > On 4/4/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com <ratnamalag> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Swamiji > > > > > > My analysis by 4step theory > > > > > > 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of *shani *on > > > star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with > > > GURU(4*) and *GURU's asp* on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40' =5,11,2 +3and 9 > > > Shows marriage > > > Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage. > > > SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of *pleural marriage* is > > > there. > > > > > > Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU- RAHU > > > RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12 > > > GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10 > > > > > > Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 > > > and 8 can be taken to complete the chain) > > > > > > TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= > > > GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp) > > > RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8) > > > Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7) > > > Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj > > > with Shukra on same degree ) > > > > > > This shows the favourable transit. > > > > > > Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was > > > solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted > > > in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of > > > Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70 > > > > > > Regards > > > Dr Sheetal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com<swami> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? > > > > > > > > Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 > > > > 78E02. > > > > > > > > He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be > > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > With kind regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Dear sheetalYour letter is address to DEAR SIR. Who is this DEAR SIR, who has to answer you. Such lettersb cause confusion, and tend to remain unanswered. Kindly avoid such vauge addressSorry. I am not trying to answwwwer yr lettr.Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: Dear Sir You have given correct method of analysis for marriage either by horary or natal, and everybody has to agree to it. But here Mr Swami has given the date of birth and date of marriage and his querry is " how this man married on this date and how is his marriatal happiness.?" So we have to solve the chart retrospectively concentrating on the perticular date/period so method will definitely little different as many steps will be omitted from the analysis. So do u think RPs will help here? If yes then plz explain how? Just give ur valuable guidence. Sir I request u to give the stepwise method for this perticular case with given birth data and marriage dt ,how to solve retrospectively when answer is given so that it will help many students like me. Its a request. Thanks and Regards Dr Sheetal Dear Sir, I am also agree with your views and it is the correct ways to analyse for any chart. We will learn more after doing practice. with regards, Mr Ghosh. Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Cc: Swamiji <swami (AT) kaalavastu (DOT) com>Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 8:13:59 PMRe: KP_marriage Dear Swamiji, I would certainly love to answer your query in detail...but it is too long an answer to give here... The following steps need to be followed : 1) Whether it is a Horary or Natal Chart,the s/l of the Ascendant should be thoroughly examined to check whether it signifies marriage or not,if it does,marriage is promised... 2) Next check whether Moon confirms the query or not,in a Horary Chart. If not,stop analysing further...take a fresh number on another day and analyse. 3) Check whether the s/l of the VIIth,signifies II,VII or XI.... if this obtains then proceed with analysis...if it is a love -marriage examine the Vth cusp varefully... s/l of V signifying II,VII or XI promises a love marriage... 4) Check the posithion of the XIth cusp,for timing the event...in which sign it is situated...Moveable ,fixed or common sign accordingly, marriage will take place within days(take Moon's transit),or within a few months(Sun's Transit) or, within a few years (Jupiter's transit)... 5) While timing the event,ensure that the Dasa-Bhukti- Anthara-Sookshma lords, the RPs as well as the significators of II,VII & XI (and V) all agree... 6) The strongest among the significators are those whose stars are untenanted... . these will alone give results...for certain.... The above,in my humble opinion is a stepwise,systematic method of arriving at the fruitful significators, the correct D-B-A-S and fix the date by using the appropriate Transit... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> @gro ups.comTuesday, 8 April, 2008 11:55:39 AMRe: KP_marriage || Om Gurave Namah || Hari Om, Dear Sunil Ji and other friends, I feel grateful for wonderful responses.. I am waiting , if Someone can suggest , How marriage is shown and timed using only KP , (Using RP and or fruitful significators selection based on "Sublords.Theory and its application" . I shall post my observation after Navratri More on this thread. With regards and gratitude to all those cared to respond and spent valuale time. OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - sunil gondhalekar @gro ups.com Monday, April 07, 2008 2:52 PM Re: KP_marriage dear swamiji, can you post your observation on the chart presented by you?i am eagerly waitng for your analysis -sunil gondhalekar On 4/4/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Swamiji My analysis by 4step theory 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40' =5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage. SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there. Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU- RAHU RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12 GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10 Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain) TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp) RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8) Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7) Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree ) This shows the favourable transit. Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70 Regards Dr Sheetal On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it.. From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. raichur anant mumbai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Dear Sheetal, Cast the Birth Chart and examine the VIIth cusp in detail.... If the sublord of the VIIth, signifies IV,VI,X or XII...it shows unhappiness in married life... If the sublords of VII & V and their lords are all posited in fruitful signs(Cancer,Scorpio,Pisces),an early marriage is seen. And so on...these rules are given in most K.P. Books... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. Sheetal <ratnamalag Sent: Wednesday, 9 April, 2008 9:33:05 AMFwd: KP_marriage Dear Sir You have given correct method of analysis for marriage either by horary or natal, and everybody has to agree to it. But here Mr Swami has given the date of birth and date of marriage and his querry is " how this man married on this date and how is his marriatal happiness.?" So we have to solve the chart retrospectively concentrating on the perticular date/period so method will definitely little different as many steps will be omitted from the analysis. So do u think RPs will help here? If yes then plz explain how? Just give ur valuable guidence. Sir I request u to give the stepwise method for this perticular case with given birth data and marriage dt ,how to solve retrospectively when answer is given so that it will help many students like me. Its a request. Thanks and Regards Dr Sheetal Dear Sir, I am also agree with your views and it is the correct ways to analyse for any chart. We will learn more after doing practice. with regards, Mr Ghosh. Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.com Cc: Swamiji <swami (AT) kaalavastu (DOT) com>Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 8:13:59 PMRe: KP_marriage Dear Swamiji, I would certainly love to answer your query in detail...but it is too long an answer to give here... The following steps need to be followed : 1) Whether it is a Horary or Natal Chart,the s/l of the Ascendant should be thoroughly examined to check whether it signifies marriage or not,if it does,marriage is promised... 2) Next check whether Moon confirms the query or not,in a Horary Chart. If not,stop analysing further...take a fresh number on another day and analyse. 3) Check whether the s/l of the VIIth,signifies II,VII or XI.... if this obtains then proceed with analysis...if it is a love -marriage examine the Vth cusp varefully... s/l of V signifying II,VII or XI promises a love marriage... 4) Check the posithion of the XIth cusp,for timing the event...in which sign it is situated...Moveable ,fixed or common sign accordingly, marriage will take place within days(take Moon's transit),or within a few months(Sun's Transit) or, within a few years (Jupiter's transit)... 5) While timing the event,ensure that the Dasa-Bhukti- Anthara-Sookshma lords, the RPs as well as the significators of II,VII & XI (and V) all agree... 6) The strongest among the significators are those whose stars are untenanted.. . . these will alone give results...for certain.... The above,in my humble opinion is a stepwise,systematic method of arriving at the fruitful significators, the correct D-B-A-S and fix the date by using the appropriate Transit... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> @gro ups.comTuesday, 8 April, 2008 11:55:39 AMRe: KP_marriage || Om Gurave Namah || Hari Om, Dear Sunil Ji and other friends, I feel grateful for wonderful responses.. I am waiting , if Someone can suggest , How marriage is shown and timed using only KP , (Using RP and or fruitful significators selection based on "Sublords.Theory and its application" . I shall post my observation after Navratri More on this thread. With regards and gratitude to all those cared to respond and spent valuale time. OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - sunil gondhalekar @gro ups.com Monday, April 07, 2008 2:52 PM Re: KP_marriage dear swamiji, can you post your observation on the chart presented by you?i am eagerly waitng for your analysis -sunil gondhalekar On 4/4/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Swamiji My analysis by 4step theory 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40' =5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage. SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there. Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU- RAHU RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12 GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10 Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain) TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp) RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8) Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7) Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree ) This shows the favourable transit. Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70 Regards Dr Sheetal On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it.. From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Dear Sujat Karam In a horary chart in order to satisfy whether the query matches with the ruling planets, it is suggested to check the Asc CSL and Moon who should have link to the 7th house (for marriage). Rgds MK Viswanatsujatkaram <sujatkaram wrote: Respected Lajmiji,Sir, You will please excuse me for my ignorance but I fail to understand as to why the sub of the ascendant should be examined for marriage! Or are you suggesting that we should also examine whether the would be wife , represented by the 7th of the 7th house i.e. the ascendent itself, has marriage in her store?regards,sujatkaram , Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote:>> Dear Swamiji,> I would certainly love to answer your query in> detail...but it is too long an answer to give here...> The following steps need to be followed :> 1) Whether it is a *Horary or Natal Chart*,*the> s/l of the Ascendant* *should be thoroughly examined to check whether it> signifies marriage or not,if it does,marriage is promised...> * 2) Next check whether Moon confirms the query> or not,in a Horary Chart.> If not,stop analysing further...take a fresh> number on another day and analyse.> 3) Check whether the s/l of the VIIth,signifies> II,VII or XI... if this obtains then proceed with analysis...if it is a love> -marriage examine the Vth cusp varefully...s/l of V signifying II,VII or XI> promises a love marriage...> 4) Check the posithion of the XIth cusp,for> timing the event...in which sign it is situated...Moveable,fixed or common> sign accordingly, marriage will take place within days(take Moon's> transit),or within a few months(Sun's Transit) or, within a few years> (Jupiter's transit)...> 5) While timing the event,ensure that the> Dasa-Bhukti-Anthara-Sookshma lords, the RPs as well as the significators of> II,VII & XI (and V) all agree...> 6) The strongest among the significators are> those whose stars are untenanted... these will alone give results...for> certain...> > The above,in my humble opinion is a> stepwise,systematic method of arriving at the fruitful significators,the> correct D-B-A-S and fix the date by using the appropriate Transit...> > With best wishes,> L.Y.Rao.> > > > > swami <swami> > > Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 11:55:39 AM> Re: KP_marriage> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> Hari Om,> Dear Sunil Ji and other friends,> I feel grateful for wonderful responses..> I am waiting , if Someone can suggest , How marriage is shown and timed> using only KP , (Using RP and or fruitful significators selection based on> "Sublords.Theory and its application" .> I shall post my observation after Navratri More on this thread.> With regards and gratitude to all those cared to respond> and spent valuale time.> OM TATSAT> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:> > > Dear Swamiji,> > I would certainly love to answer your query in> > detail...but it is too long an answer to give here...> > The following steps need to be followed :> > 1) Whether it is a Horary or Natal Chart,the> > s/l of the Ascendant should be thoroughly examined to check whether it> > signifies marriage or not,if it does,*marriage is promised...*> > 2) Next check whether Moon confirms the query> > or not,*in a Horary Chart*.> > *If not,stop* *analysing further*...take a> > fresh number on another day and analyse.> > 3) Check whether the s/l of the> > VIIth,signifies II,VII or XI... if this obtains then proceed with> > analysis...if it is a love -marriage examine the Vth cusp varefully...s/l of> > V signifying II,VII or XI promises a love marriage...> > 4) Check the posithion of the XIth cusp,for> > timing the event...in which sign it is situated...Moveable,fixed or common> > sign accordingly, marriage will take place within days(take Moon's> > transit),or within a few months(Sun's Transit) or, within a few years> > (Jupiter's transit)...> > 5) While timing the event,ensure that the> > Dasa-Bhukti-Anthara-Sookshma lords, the RPs as well as the significators of> > II,VII & XI (and V) *all agree*...> > 6) *The strongest among the significators are> > those whose stars are untenanted... these will alone give results...for> > certain...*> > **> > The above,in my humble opinion is a> > stepwise,systematic method of arriving at the fruitful significators,the> > correct D-B-A-S and *fix* the date by using* *the appropriate *Transit...*> >> > **> >> > * * With best wishes,> >> > * *L.Y.Rao.> >> >> > > > swami <swami> > > > Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 11:55:39 AM> > Re: KP_marriage> >> >> > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > Hari Om,> > Dear Sunil Ji and other friends,> > I feel grateful for wonderful responses..> > I am waiting , if Someone can suggest , How marriage is shown and timed> > using only KP , (Using RP and or fruitful significators selection based on> > "Sublords.Theory and its application" .> > I shall post my observation after Navratri More on this thread.> > With regards and gratitude to all those cared to respond> > and spent valuale time.> > OM TATSAT> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------> > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has> > created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> > --> >> > -> > ** sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka> > *To:* @gro ups.com > > *Sent:* Monday, April 07, 2008 2:52 PM> > *Subject:* Re: KP_marriage> >> > dear swamiji,> > can you post your observation on the chart> > presented by you?i am eagerly waitng for your analysis> > -sunil gondhalekar> >> >> > On 4/4/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com <ratnamalag> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Swamiji> > >> > > My analysis by 4step theory> > >> > > 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of *shani *on> > > star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with> > > GURU(4*) and *GURU's asp* on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40' =5,11,2 +3and 9> > > Shows marriage> > > Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage.> > > SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of *pleural marriage* is> > > there.> > >> > > Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU- RAHU> > > RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12> > > GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10> > >> > > Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5> > > and 8 can be taken to complete the chain)> > >> > > TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day=> > > GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp)> > > RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8)> > > Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7)> > > Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj> > > with Shukra on same degree )> > >> > > This shows the favourable transit.> > >> > > Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was> > > solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted> > > in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of> > > Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70> > >> > > Regards> > > Dr Sheetal> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com<swami>> > > wrote:> > >> > > > Dear Friends,> > > >> > > > Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness?> > > >> > > > Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11> > > > 78E02.> > > >> > > > He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be> > > > appreciated.> > > >> > > > With kind regards.> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> > ------------------------------> > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Respected Swamiji, Dr. Sheetal and friends those who are interested, I have made an attempted to solve the problem presented by Respected Swamiji and attaching the file to this message. Since it is very long I could not put it here. Sorry for inconvenience. Kindly see the attachment. I do invite comments and criticism from all. Thanking you . Dr. LutherSheetal <ratnamalag wrote: Dear Swamiji My analysis by 4step theory 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40'=5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage. SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there. Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU-RAHU RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12 GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10 Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain) TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp) RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8) Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7) Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree ) This shows the favourable transit. Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70 Regards Dr Sheetal On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Dr.Luther, I am please to inform you after going through your attached file with analysis.Your approach toward the problems is in right directions.More practice will give you confidence in acheiveing the accurate results/predictions. With our best wishes. Regards, < Mr Ghosh. Luther Rath <rathluther Sent: Monday, 14 April, 2008 9:11:11 AMRe: KP_marriage Respected Swamiji, Dr. Sheetal and friends those who are interested, I have made an attempted to solve the problem presented by Respected Swamiji and attaching the file to this message. Since it is very long I could not put it here. Sorry for inconvenience. Kindly see the attachment. I do invite comments and criticism from all. Thanking you . Dr. LutherSheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Swamiji My analysis by 4step theory 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40' =5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage. SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there. Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU- RAHU RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12 GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10 Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain) TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp) RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8) Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7) Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree ) This shows the favourable transit. Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70 Regards Dr Sheetal On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Respected members, Sir, Is it possible to analyse and find out why the marriage took place on 8th May only, and not on any other day?For example, why not on 7th May? Or on 9th May? I am not being critical, just inquisitive. Regards, sujatkaram , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > > Dear Sheetal, > Cast the Birth Chart and examine the VIIth cusp in detail.... > If the sublord of the VIIth, signifies IV,VI,X or XII...it shows unhappiness in married life... > If the sublords of VII & V and their lords are all posited in fruitful signs(Cancer,Scorpio,Pisces),an early marriage is seen. > And so on...these rules are given in most K.P. Books... > With best wishes, > L.Y.Rao. > > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag > > Wednesday, 9 April, 2008 9:33:05 AM > Fwd: KP_marriage > > Dear Sir > > You have given correct method of analysis for marriage either by horary or natal, and everybody has to agree to it. But here Mr Swami has given the date of birth and date of marriage and his querry is " how this man married on this date and how is his marriatal happiness.? " So we have to solve the chart retrospectively concentrating on the perticular date/period so method will definitely little different as many steps will be omitted from the analysis. So do u think RPs will help here? If yes then plz explain how? Just give ur valuable guidence. > > Sir I request u to give the stepwise method for this perticular case with given birth data and marriage dt ,how to solve retrospectively when answer is given so that it will help many students like me. Its a request. > > Thanks and Regards > Dr Sheetal > > > Dear Sir, > I am also agree with your views and it is the correct ways to analyse for any chart. > We will learn more after doing practice. > with regards, > Mr Ghosh. > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > @gro ups.com > > Cc: Swamiji <swami (AT) kaalavastu (DOT) com> > Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 8:13:59 PM > Re: KP_marriage > > > Dear Swamiji, > I would certainly love to answer your query in detail...but it is too long an answer to give here... > The following steps need to be followed : > 1) Whether it is a Horary or Natal Chart,the s/l of the Ascendant should be thoroughly examined to check whether it signifies marriage or not,if it does,marriage is promised... > 2) Next check whether Moon confirms the query or not,in a Horary Chart. > If not,stop analysing further...take a fresh number on another day and analyse. > 3) Check whether the s/l of the VIIth,signifies II,VII or XI.... if this obtains then proceed with analysis...if it is a love -marriage examine the Vth cusp varefully... s/l of V signifying II,VII or XI promises a love marriage... > 4) Check the posithion of the XIth cusp,for timing the event...in which sign it is situated...Moveable ,fixed or common sign accordingly, marriage will take place within days(take Moon's transit),or within a few months (Sun's Transit) or, within a few years (Jupiter's transit)... > 5) While timing the event,ensure that the Dasa-Bhukti- Anthara-Sookshma lords, the RPs as well as the significators of II,VII & XI (and V) all agree... > 6) The strongest among the significators are those whose stars are untenanted.. . . these will alone give results...for certain.... > > The above,in my humble opinion is a stepwise,systematic method of arriving at the fruitful significators, the correct D-B-A-S and fix the date by using the appropriate Transit... > > With best wishes, > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> > > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 11:55:39 AM > Re: KP_marriage > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > Hari Om, > Dear Sunil Ji and other friends, > I feel grateful for wonderful responses.. > I am waiting , if Someone can suggest , How marriage is shown and timed using only KP , (Using RP and or fruitful significators selection based on " Sublords.Theory and its application " . > I shall post my observation after Navratri More on this thread. > With regards and gratitude to all those cared to respond > and spent valuale time. > OM TATSAT > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----- ---- -- > > - > sunil gondhalekar > @gro ups.com > Monday, April 07, 2008 2:52 PM > Re: KP_marriage > > > dear swamiji, > can you post your observation on the chart > presented by you?i am eagerly waitng for your analysis > -sunil gondhalekar > > > On 4/4/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear Swamiji > > My analysis by 4step theory > > 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40' =5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage > Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage. > SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there. > > Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU- RAHU > RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12 > GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10 > > Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain) > > TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= > GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp) > RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8) > Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7) > Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree ) > > This shows the favourable transit. > > Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70 > > Regards > Dr Sheetal > > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? > Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. > He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. > With kind regards. > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Dear Sujatkaram, Yes,by using Ruling planets...and seeing which day matches... L.Y.Rao sujatkaram <sujatkaram Sent: Monday, 14 April, 2008 8:33:38 PMRe: Fwd: KP_marriage Respected members,Sir,Is it possible to analyse and find out why the marriage took place on 8th May only, and not on any other day?For example, why not on 7th May? Or on 9th May?I am not being critical, just inquisitive.Regards,sujatkaram-- - In @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Sheetal,> Cast the Birth Chart and examine the VIIth cusp in detail....> If the sublord of the VIIth, signifies IV,VI,X or XII...it shows unhappiness in married life...> If the sublords of VII & V and their lords are all posited in fruitful signs(Cancer, Scorpio,Pisces) ,an early marriage is seen.> And so on...these rules are given in most K.P. Books...> With best wishes,> L.Y.Rao.> > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag@ ...>> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, 9 April, 2008 9:33:05 AM> Fwd: KP_marriage> > Dear Sir> > You have given correct method of analysis for marriage either by horary or natal, and everybody has to agree to it. But here Mr Swami has given the date of birth and date of marriage and his querry is " how this man married on this date and how is his marriatal happiness.?" So we have to solve the chart retrospectively concentrating on the perticular date/period so method will definitely little different as many steps will be omitted from the analysis. So do u think RPs will help here? If yes then plz explain how? Just give ur valuable guidence. > > Sir I request u to give the stepwise method for this perticular case with given birth data and marriage dt ,how to solve retrospectively when answer is given so that it will help many students like me. Its a request.> > Thanks and Regards> Dr Sheetal> > > Dear Sir,> I am also agree with your views and it is the correct ways to analyse for any chart.> We will learn more after doing practice.> with regards,> Mr Ghosh.> > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> @gro ups.com> > Cc: Swamiji <swami (AT) kaalavastu (DOT) com>> Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 8:13:59 PM> Re: KP_marriage> > > Dear Swamiji,> I would certainly love to answer your query in detail...but it is too long an answer to give here...> The following steps need to be followed :> 1) Whether it is a Horary or Natal Chart,the s/l of the Ascendant should be thoroughly examined to check whether it signifies marriage or not,if it does,marriage is promised...> 2) Next check whether Moon confirms the query or not,in a Horary Chart. > If not,stop analysing further...take a fresh number on another day and analyse.> 3) Check whether the s/l of the VIIth,signifies II,VII or XI.... if this obtains then proceed with analysis...if it is a love -marriage examine the Vth cusp varefully... s/l of V signifying II,VII or XI promises a love marriage...> 4) Check the posithion of the XIth cusp,for timing the event...in which sign it is situated....Moveable ,fixed or common sign accordingly, marriage will take place within days(take Moon's transit),or within a few months(Sun's Transit) or, within a few years (Jupiter's transit)...> 5) While timing the event,ensure that the Dasa-Bhukti- Anthara-Sookshma lords, the RPs as well as the significators of II,VII & XI (and V) all agree....> 6) The strongest among the significators are those whose stars are untenanted.. . . these will alone give results...for certain....> > The above,in my humble opinion is a stepwise,systematic method of arriving at the fruitful significators, the correct D-B-A-S and fix the date by using the appropriate Transit...> > With best wishes,> L.Y.Rao.> > > > > swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>> > @gro ups.com> Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 11:55:39 AM> Re: KP_marriage> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> Hari Om,> Dear Sunil Ji and other friends,> I feel grateful for wonderful responses..> I am waiting , if Someone can suggest , How marriage is shown and timed using only KP , (Using RP and or fruitful significators selection based on "Sublords.Theory and its application" .> I shall post my observation after Navratri More on this thread.> With regards and gratitude to all those cared to respond> and spent valuale time.> OM TATSAT> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------> " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --> > - > sunil gondhalekar > @gro ups.com > Monday, April 07, 2008 2:52 PM> Re: KP_marriage> > > dear swamiji,> can you post your observation on the chart > presented by you?i am eagerly waitng for your analysis> -sunil gondhalekar> > > On 4/4/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag@ gmail. com> wrote: > Dear Swamiji> > My analysis by 4step theory> > 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40' =5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage> Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage.> SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there.> > Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU- RAHU> RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12> GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10> > Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain)> > TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= > GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp)> RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8)> Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7)> Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree )> > This shows the favourable transit.> > Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70> > Regards> Dr Sheetal> > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:> > Dear Friends,> Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness?> Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02.> He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated.> With kind regards.> > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Sir Moon signifies the date of event. The event will take place when Moon travels on the significator's star. Regards MK Viswanat sujatkaram <sujatkaram wrote: Respected members,Sir,Is it possible to analyse and find out why the marriage took place on 8th May only, and not on any other day?For example, why not on 7th May? Or on 9th May?I am not being critical, just inquisitive.Regards,sujatkaram , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:>> Dear Sheetal,> Cast the Birth Chart and examine the VIIth cusp in detail....> If the sublord of the VIIth, signifies IV,VI,X or XII...it shows unhappiness in married life...> If the sublords of VII & V and their lords are all posited in fruitful signs(Cancer,Scorpio,Pisces),an early marriage is seen.> And so on...these rules are given in most K.P. Books...> With best wishes,> L.Y.Rao.> > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag> > Wednesday, 9 April, 2008 9:33:05 AM> Fwd: KP_marriage> > Dear Sir> > You have given correct method of analysis for marriage either by horary or natal, and everybody has to agree to it. But here Mr Swami has given the date of birth and date of marriage and his querry is " how this man married on this date and how is his marriatal happiness.?" So we have to solve the chart retrospectively concentrating on the perticular date/period so method will definitely little different as many steps will be omitted from the analysis. So do u think RPs will help here? If yes then plz explain how? Just give ur valuable guidence. > > Sir I request u to give the stepwise method for this perticular case with given birth data and marriage dt ,how to solve retrospectively when answer is given so that it will help many students like me. Its a request.> > Thanks and Regards> Dr Sheetal> > > Dear Sir,> I am also agree with your views and it is the correct ways to analyse for any chart.> We will learn more after doing practice.> with regards,> Mr Ghosh.> > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> @gro ups.com> > Cc: Swamiji <swami (AT) kaalavastu (DOT) com>> Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 8:13:59 PM> Re: KP_marriage> > > Dear Swamiji,> I would certainly love to answer your query in detail...but it is too long an answer to give here...> The following steps need to be followed :> 1) Whether it is a Horary or Natal Chart,the s/l of the Ascendant should be thoroughly examined to check whether it signifies marriage or not,if it does,marriage is promised...> 2) Next check whether Moon confirms the query or not,in a Horary Chart. > If not,stop analysing further...take a fresh number on another day and analyse.> 3) Check whether the s/l of the VIIth,signifies II,VII or XI.... if this obtains then proceed with analysis...if it is a love -marriage examine the Vth cusp varefully... s/l of V signifying II,VII or XI promises a love marriage...> 4) Check the posithion of the XIth cusp,for timing the event...in which sign it is situated...Moveable ,fixed or common sign accordingly, marriage will take place within days(take Moon's transit),or within a few months(Sun's Transit) or, within a few years (Jupiter's transit)...> 5) While timing the event,ensure that the Dasa-Bhukti- Anthara-Sookshma lords, the RPs as well as the significators of II,VII & XI (and V) all agree...> 6) The strongest among the significators are those whose stars are untenanted.. . . these will alone give results...for certain....> > The above,in my humble opinion is a stepwise,systematic method of arriving at the fruitful significators, the correct D-B-A-S and fix the date by using the appropriate Transit...> > With best wishes,> L.Y.Rao.> > > > > swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>> > @gro ups.com> Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 11:55:39 AM> Re: KP_marriage> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> Hari Om,> Dear Sunil Ji and other friends,> I feel grateful for wonderful responses..> I am waiting , if Someone can suggest , How marriage is shown and timed using only KP , (Using RP and or fruitful significators selection based on "Sublords.Theory and its application" .> I shall post my observation after Navratri More on this thread.> With regards and gratitude to all those cared to respond> and spent valuale time.> OM TATSAT> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------> " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --> > - > sunil gondhalekar > @gro ups.com > Monday, April 07, 2008 2:52 PM> Re: KP_marriage> > > dear swamiji,> can you post your observation on the chart > presented by you?i am eagerly waitng for your analysis> -sunil gondhalekar> > > On 4/4/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear Swamiji> > My analysis by 4step theory> > 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40' =5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage> Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage.> SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there.> > Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU- RAHU> RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12> GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10> > Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain)> > TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= > GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp)> RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8)> Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7)> Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree )> > This shows the favourable transit.> > Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70> > Regards> Dr Sheetal> > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:> > Dear Friends,> Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness?> Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02.> He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated.> With kind regards.> > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Dear Dr. Sheetal, I have attempted to solve the problem presented by Swamiji. Could you make some time to go through my massage and attachment on the mater? If so please let me have your comments so that i can find out my faults or shortfalls in prediction. That would help me in learning. Thanking you. Dr. LutherSheetal <ratnamalag wrote: Dear Swamiji My analysis by 4step theory 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40'=5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage. SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there. Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU-RAHU RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12 GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10 Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain) TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp) RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8) Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7) Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree ) This shows the favourable transit. Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70 Regards Dr Sheetal On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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