Guest guest Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Dear Sir, Can any learned member clarify me whether s/l stands for Star Lord or Sub Lord. Regards Nanda RNsujatkaram <sujatkaram wrote: Respected members,Sir,Is it possible to analyse and find out why the marriage took place on 8th May only, and not on any other day?For example, why not on 7th May? Or on 9th May?I am not being critical, just inquisitive.Regards,sujatkaram , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:>> Dear Sheetal,> Cast the Birth Chart and examine the VIIth cusp in detail....> If the sublord of the VIIth, signifies IV,VI,X or XII...it shows unhappiness in married life...> If the sublords of VII & V and their lords are all posited in fruitful signs(Cancer,Scorpio,Pisces),an early marriage is seen.> And so on...these rules are given in most K.P. Books...> With best wishes,> L.Y.Rao.> > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag> > Wednesday, 9 April, 2008 9:33:05 AM> Fwd: KP_marriage> > Dear Sir> > You have given correct method of analysis for marriage either by horary or natal, and everybody has to agree to it. But here Mr Swami has given the date of birth and date of marriage and his querry is " how this man married on this date and how is his marriatal happiness.?" So we have to solve the chart retrospectively concentrating on the perticular date/period so method will definitely little different as many steps will be omitted from the analysis. So do u think RPs will help here? If yes then plz explain how? Just give ur valuable guidence. > > Sir I request u to give the stepwise method for this perticular case with given birth data and marriage dt ,how to solve retrospectively when answer is given so that it will help many students like me. Its a request.> > Thanks and Regards> Dr Sheetal> > > Dear Sir,> I am also agree with your views and it is the correct ways to analyse for any chart.> We will learn more after doing practice.> with regards,> Mr Ghosh.> > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> @gro ups.com> > Cc: Swamiji <swami (AT) kaalavastu (DOT) com>> Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 8:13:59 PM> Re: KP_marriage> > > Dear Swamiji,> I would certainly love to answer your query in detail...but it is too long an answer to give here...> The following steps need to be followed :> 1) Whether it is a Horary or Natal Chart,the s/l of the Ascendant should be thoroughly examined to check whether it signifies marriage or not,if it does,marriage is promised...> 2) Next check whether Moon confirms the query or not,in a Horary Chart. > If not,stop analysing further...take a fresh number on another day and analyse.> 3) Check whether the s/l of the VIIth,signifies II,VII or XI.... if this obtains then proceed with analysis...if it is a love -marriage examine the Vth cusp varefully... s/l of V signifying II,VII or XI promises a love marriage...> 4) Check the posithion of the XIth cusp,for timing the event...in which sign it is situated...Moveable ,fixed or common sign accordingly, marriage will take place within days(take Moon's transit),or within a few months(Sun's Transit) or, within a few years (Jupiter's transit)...> 5) While timing the event,ensure that the Dasa-Bhukti- Anthara-Sookshma lords, the RPs as well as the significators of II,VII & XI (and V) all agree...> 6) The strongest among the significators are those whose stars are untenanted.. . . these will alone give results...for certain....> > The above,in my humble opinion is a stepwise,systematic method of arriving at the fruitful significators, the correct D-B-A-S and fix the date by using the appropriate Transit...> > With best wishes,> L.Y.Rao.> > > > > swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>> > @gro ups.com> Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 11:55:39 AM> Re: KP_marriage> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> Hari Om,> Dear Sunil Ji and other friends,> I feel grateful for wonderful responses..> I am waiting , if Someone can suggest , How marriage is shown and timed using only KP , (Using RP and or fruitful significators selection based on "Sublords.Theory and its application" .> I shall post my observation after Navratri More on this thread.> With regards and gratitude to all those cared to respond> and spent valuale time.> OM TATSAT> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------> " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --> > - > sunil gondhalekar > @gro ups.com > Monday, April 07, 2008 2:52 PM> Re: KP_marriage> > > dear swamiji,> can you post your observation on the chart > presented by you?i am eagerly waitng for your analysis> -sunil gondhalekar> > > On 4/4/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear Swamiji> > My analysis by 4step theory> > 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40' =5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage> Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage.> SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there.> > Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU- RAHU> RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12> GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10> > Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain)> > TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= > GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp)> RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8)> Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7)> Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree )> > This shows the favourable transit.> > Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70> > Regards> Dr Sheetal> > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:> > Dear Friends,> Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness?> Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02.> He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated.> With kind regards.> > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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Guest guest Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Dear Mr Ghosh, Thank you very much for your compliments. Let your blessings and best wishes be with me to improve my proficiency. Please never hesitate to point out my mistakes. Thanking ou again. Dr. Luther.Chittaranajn Ghosh <chittaranajnghosh wrote: Dr.Luther, I am please to inform you after going through your attached file with analysis.Your approach toward the problems is in right directions.More practice will give you confidence in acheiveing the accurate results/predictions. With our best wishes. Regards, < Mr Ghosh. Luther Rath <rathluther > Sent: Monday, 14 April, 2008 9:11:11 AMRe: KP_marriage Respected Swamiji, Dr. Sheetal and friends those who are interested, I have made an attempted to solve the problem presented by Respected Swamiji and attaching the file to this message. Since it is very long I could not put it here. Sorry for inconvenience. Kindly see the attachment. I do invite comments and criticism from all. Thanking you . Dr. LutherSheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Swamiji My analysis by 4step theory 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40' =5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage. SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there. Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU- RAHU RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12 GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10 Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain) TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp) RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8) Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7) Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree ) This shows the favourable transit. Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70 Regards Dr Sheetal On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 Sub lord. Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel FOR-NANDA-R-N <nandarn Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:54:09 Re: Fwd: KP_marriage Dear Sir, Can any learned member clarify me whether s/l stands for Star Lord or Sub Lord. Regards Nanda RN sujatkaram <sujatkaram wrote: Respected members, Sir, Is it possible to analyse and find out why the marriage took place on 8th May only, and not on any other day?For example, why not on 7th May? Or on 9th May? I am not being critical, just inquisitive. Regards, sujatkaram@gro <%40> ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > > Dear Sheetal, > Cast the Birth Chart and examine the VIIth cusp in detail.... > If the sublord of the VIIth, signifies IV,VI,X or XII...it shows unhappiness in married life... > If the sublords of VII & V and their lords are all posited in fruitful signs(Cancer,Scorpio,Pisces),an early marriage is seen. > And so on...these rules are given in most K.P. Books... > With best wishes, > L.Y.Rao. > > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag > @gro <%40> ups.com > Wednesday, 9 April, 2008 9:33:05 AM > Fwd: KP_marriage > > Dear Sir > > You have given correct method of analysis for marriage either by horary or natal, and everybody has to agree to it. But here Mr Swami has given the date of birth and date of marriage and his querry is " how this man married on this date and how is his marriatal happiness.? " So we have to solve the chart retrospectively concentrating on the perticular date/period so method will definitely little different as many steps will be omitted from the analysis. So do u think RPs will help here? If yes then plz explain how? Just give ur valuable guidence. > > Sir I request u to give the stepwise method for this perticular case with given birth data and marriage dt ,how to solve retrospectively when answer is given so that it will help many students like me. Its a request. > > Thanks and Regards > Dr Sheetal > > > Dear Sir, > I am also agree with your views and it is the correct ways to analyse for any chart. > We will learn more after doing practice. > with regards, > Mr Ghosh. > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > @gro ups.com > > Cc: Swamiji <swami (AT) kaalavastu (DOT) com> > Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 8:13:59 PM > Re: KP_marriage > > > Dear Swamiji, > I would certainly love to answer your query in detail...but it is too long an answer to give here... > The following steps need to be followed : > 1) Whether it is a Horary or Natal Chart,the s/l of the Ascendant should be thoroughly examined to check whether it signifies marriage or not,if it does,marriage is promised... > 2) Next check whether Moon confirms the query or not,in a Horary Chart. > If not,stop analysing further...take a fresh number on another day and analyse. > 3) Check whether the s/l of the VIIth,signifies II,VII or XI.... if this obtains then proceed with analysis...if it is a love -marriage examine the Vth cusp varefully... s/l of V signifying II,VII or XI promises a love marriage... > 4) Check the posithion of the XIth cusp,for timing the event...in which sign it is situated...Moveable ,fixed or common sign accordingly, marriage will take place within days(take Moon's transit),or within a few months (Sun's Transit) or, within a few years (Jupiter's transit)... > 5) While timing the event,ensure that the Dasa-Bhukti- Anthara-Sookshma lords, the RPs as well as the significators of II,VII & XI (and V) all agree... > 6) The strongest among the significators are those whose stars are untenanted.. . . these will alone give results...for certain.... > > The above,in my humble opinion is a stepwise,systematic method of arriving at the fruitful significators, the correct D-B-A-S and fix the date by using the appropriate Transit... > > With best wishes, > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> > > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 11:55:39 AM > Re: KP_marriage > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > Hari Om, > Dear Sunil Ji and other friends, > I feel grateful for wonderful responses.. > I am waiting , if Someone can suggest , How marriage is shown and timed using only KP , (Using RP and or fruitful significators selection based on " Sublords.Theory and its application " . > I shall post my observation after Navratri More on this thread. > With regards and gratitude to all those cared to respond > and spent valuale time. > OM TATSAT > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----- ---- -- > > - > sunil gondhalekar > @gro ups.com > Monday, April 07, 2008 2:52 PM > Re: KP_marriage > > > dear swamiji, > can you post your observation on the chart > presented by you?i am eagerly waitng for your analysis > -sunil gondhalekar > > > On 4/4/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear Swamiji > > My analysis by 4step theory > > 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40' =5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage > Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage. > SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there. > > Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU- RAHU > RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12 > GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10 > > Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain) > > TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= > GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp) > RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8) > Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7) > Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree ) > > This shows the favourable transit. > > Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70 > > Regards > Dr Sheetal > > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? > Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. > He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. > With kind regards. > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Dear Dr.Luther I have gone through your analysis. As per 4 step theory marriage is promised. In this connection please see my posting in Message # 17017. You have mentioned that since 7th s/l does not promise marriage you have studied 2nd and 11th sub lords to see whether marriage is promised or not. However I did not find any mention of such rule in KP. May be I might have missed it. If you can please give reference regarding this rule in KP, it will be highly appriciated. Regards Subhash Ektare , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: > > Respected Swamiji, Dr. Sheetal and friends those who are interested, > I have made an attempted to solve the problem presented by Respected Swamiji and attaching the file to this message. Since it is very long I could not put it here. Sorry for inconvenience. Kindly see the attachment. I do invite comments and criticism from all. > > Thanking you . > > Dr. Luther > > Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: > Dear Swamiji > > My analysis by 4step theory > > 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40'=5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage > Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage. > SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there. > > Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU-RAHU > RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12 > GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10 > > Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain) > > TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= > GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp) > RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8) > Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7) > Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree ) > > This shows the favourable transit. > > Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70 > > Regards > Dr Sheetal > > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami wrote: > Dear Friends, > Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? > Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. > He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. > With kind regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Dear Sir, Thank you very much for pointing something unusaual. At the moment I do not remember the reference. I read only KP and have read it in some KP publication. I shall remember to tell you as soon as I find it. Thank you again. Dr. LutherSubhash <subhash_ektare wrote: Dear Dr.LutherI have gone through your analysis. As per 4 step theory marriage is promised. In this connection please see my posting in Message # 17017. You have mentioned that since 7th s/l does not promise marriage you have studied 2nd and 11th sub lords to see whether marriage is promised or not. However I did not find any mention of such rule in KP. May be I might have missed it. If you can please give reference regarding this rule in KP, it will be highly appriciated.RegardsSubhash Ektare , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:>> Respected Swamiji, Dr. Sheetal and friends those who are interested,> I have made an attempted to solve the problem presented by Respected Swamiji and attaching the file to this message. Since it is very long I could not put it here. Sorry for inconvenience. Kindly see the attachment. I do invite comments and criticism from all.> > Thanking you .> > Dr. Luther> > Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote:> Dear Swamiji> > My analysis by 4step theory> > 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40'=5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage> Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage.> SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there.> > Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU-RAHU> RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12> GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10> > Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain)> > TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= > GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp)> RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8)> Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7)> Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree )> > This shows the favourable transit.> > Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70> > Regards> Dr Sheetal> > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami wrote:> Dear Friends,> Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness?> Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02.> He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated.> With kind regards.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Dear sir, I am not able to find your message in reference regarding promiss of marriage predicte by 4 step theory.Will you kindly sent it in to my personal ID? Thanking you. Dr. LutherSubhash <subhash_ektare wrote: Dear Dr.LutherI have gone through your analysis. As per 4 step theory marriage is promised. In this connection please see my posting in Message # 17017. You have mentioned that since 7th s/l does not promise marriage you have studied 2nd and 11th sub lords to see whether marriage is promised or not. However I did not find any mention of such rule in KP. May be I might have missed it. If you can please give reference regarding this rule in KP, it will be highly appriciated.RegardsSubhash Ektare , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:>> Respected Swamiji, Dr. Sheetal and friends those who are interested,> I have made an attempted to solve the problem presented by Respected Swamiji and attaching the file to this message. Since it is very long I could not put it here. Sorry for inconvenience. Kindly see the attachment. I do invite comments and criticism from all.> > Thanking you .> > Dr. Luther> > Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote:> Dear Swamiji> > My analysis by 4step theory> > 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40'=5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage> Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage.> SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there.> > Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU-RAHU> RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12> GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10> > Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain)> > TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= > GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp)> RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8)> Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7)> Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree )> > This shows the favourable transit.> > Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70> > Regards> Dr Sheetal> > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami wrote:> Dear Friends,> Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness?> Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02.> He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated.> With kind regards.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Dear Swaimiji plz reveal your answer about the marriage and marital happiness. Plz write stepwise in details as per kp so that students like me, can understand it well. This is really a good case and genuine queries can be discussed Thanks and regards Sheetal Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah || Hari Om, Dear Friends, I feel the post has generated good interest; as barring a few active experts, many have tried honestly. I am grateful to all who have taken interest in helping me understand. Since Sunil Ji is giver of 4 step methodology, and he responded on 28 th March itself I consider, My comments are uncalled for. I am thankful to other friends for their efforts in explaining the event and its timing by 4 step method. It was really a good learning experience. Background. This post was at a time when debate between moderator and one senior friend was at peak on issue of what KP is and what is not. Just before that in another case marriage Timing had been under discussion, the case was about one “ATUL’s Marriage.” I am taught that if we correctly know how to apply RP theory, other variation of methodology is not needed. I have been minutely examining this statement and am not fully convinced , there are many gaps in rules handed over to us and many time we find no way to predict by KP alone. Out of many cases, it was one case of native known very closely therefore I posted the Data of a Native, just to discover gaps in my understanding. I submit respectfully to all members of list, it was not a quiz; it was not a challenge nor was an Effort to seek post mortem reading. Observations. Astrology as practiced now a days is far from devoted methodical analysis. Barring few exception Predictions are avoided at all cost but most of the writings in astrology are justification of past events that is why Successful predictions are praised very often vehemently. Let me first emphatically accept it is one of the cases where I miserably failed, around 1981, when I was attempting to check if data could sanction other happenings that took place with the Native till then. Here it is pertinent to state that most of the happenings of Native are easily amenable to Vedic astrology so Doubt about Birth time is out of question. Now in order to share how I see it after so many years of study after 1981, (I am supposed to show how I am proceeding.) I take KP ayanamsa as Prof KSK has given in his Reader 1,For 1945 It is 22D 59M. Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Rah MD: 1967-05-09 - 1985-05-09 Jup AD: 1970-01-20 - 1972-06-15 Jup PD: 1970-01-20 - 1970-05-16 Therefore Marriage occurred on 8 May 2008 in Rah/Jup/Jup/Rah. 1. How Jupiter gave marriage as Bhukti and pratyantra lord? I think qualification of Rahu giving marriage is not under doubt. 2. Marriage by Sun is not promised, as Sub lord does not signify II,VII and XI .Marriage is not possible? Why rely on Sun as sub lord of VII the way most people see to assess if marriage is promised? To see what Matters Sun as Sub lord of VII cusp , Signify Should we not examine constellation it occupies? Please look Sun is deposited in constellation of Moon. BUT Moon has Mer and Jupiter in its constellation So Matter will be signified by Jup and Merc. Jup is not in strength for in its constellation Mars is posited. So it appeared as Bhukti lord as well as Antra .Next rah as sookham does not call for any explanation. Here Sun is conjunct Jupiter. Distance is very less.2 deg 27 minutes. Since Sun is very important planet for marriage of Native. Before we conclude denial we must examine Sun thoroughly. That is conjunction, aspects it receives and houses it signifies by Constellation as well as sub. I hope DBA are obvious in light of above approach. I am sorry for late posting on this thread. Sorry if I have committed mistakes, With regards. RCS. OM TATSAT-----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Sheetal Monday, April 21, 2008 7:30 PM Fwd: KP_marriage Dear Swaimiji plz reveal your answer about the marriage and marital happiness. Plz write stepwise in details as per kp so that students like me, can understand it well. This is really a good case and genuine queries can be discussed Thanks and regards Sheetal Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 dear swami, your following explanation Please look Sun is deposited in constellation of Moon. BUT Moon has Mer and Jupiter in its constellation So Matter will be signified by Jup and Merc. Jup is not in strength for in its constellation Mars is posited. So it appeared as Bhukti lord as well as Antra .Next rah as sookham does not call for any explanation. has disapointed us.the explaination shows that we have to judge again star lord? whether this is to be applied to every case?then KP will be more complicated. members are requested to focus on this point -sunil gondhalekar On 4/22/08, swami <swami wrote: || Om Gurave Namah || Hari Om, Dear Friends, I feel the post has generated good interest; as barring a few active experts, many have tried honestly. I am grateful to all who have taken interest in helping me understand. Since Sunil Ji is giver of 4 step methodology, and he responded on 28 th March itself I consider, My comments are uncalled for. I am thankful to other friends for their efforts in explaining the event and its timing by 4 step method. It was really a good learning experience. Background. This post was at a time when debate between moderator and one senior friend was at peak on issue of what KP is and what is not. Just before that in another case marriage Timing had been under discussion, the case was about one "ATUL's Marriage." I am taught that if we correctly know how to apply RP theory, other variation of methodology is not needed. I have been minutely examining this statement and am not fully convinced , there are many gaps in rules handed over to us and many time we find no way to predict by KP alone. Out of many cases, it was one case of native known very closely therefore I posted the Data of a Native, just to discover gaps in my understanding. I submit respectfully to all members of list, it was not a quiz; it was not a challenge nor was an Effort to seek post mortem reading. Observations. Astrology as practiced now a days is far from devoted methodical analysis. Barring few exception Predictions are avoided at all cost but most of the writings in astrology are justification of past events that is why Successful predictions are praised very often vehemently. Let me first emphatically accept it is one of the cases where I miserably failed, around 1981, when I was attempting to check if data could sanction other happenings that took place with the Native till then. Here it is pertinent to state that most of the happenings of Native are easily amenable to Vedic astrology so Doubt about Birth time is out of question. Now in order to share how I see it after so many years of study after 1981, (I am supposed to show how I am proceeding.) I take KP ayanamsa as Prof KSK has given in his Reader 1,For 1945 It is 22D 59M. Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Rah MD: 1967-05-09 - 1985-05-09 Jup AD: 1970-01-20 - 1972-06-15 Jup PD: 1970-01-20 - 1970-05-16 Therefore Marriage occurred on 8 May 2008 in Rah/Jup/Jup/Rah. 1. How Jupiter gave marriage as Bhukti and pratyantra lord? I think qualification of Rahu giving marriage is not under doubt. 2. Marriage by Sun is not promised, as Sub lord does not signify II,VII and XI .Marriage is not possible? Why rely on Sun as sub lord of VII the way most people see to assess if marriage is promised? To see what Matters Sun as Sub lord of VII cusp , Signify Should we not examine constellation it occupies? Please look Sun is deposited in constellation of Moon. BUT Moon has Mer and Jupiter in its constellation So Matter will be signified by Jup and Merc. Jup is not in strength for in its constellation Mars is posited. So it appeared as Bhukti lord as well as Antra .Next rah as sookham does not call for any explanation. Here Sun is conjunct Jupiter. Distance is very less.2 deg 27 minutes. Since Sun is very important planet for marriage of Native. Before we conclude denial we must examine Sun thoroughly. That is conjunction, aspects it receives and houses it signifies by Constellation as well as sub. I hope DBA are obvious in light of above approach. I am sorry for late posting on this thread. Sorry if I have committed mistakes, With regards. RCS. OM TATSAT----------------------- " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " -- - Sheetal Monday, April 21, 2008 7:30 PM Fwd: KP_marriage Dear Swaimiji plz reveal your answer about the marriage and marital happiness. Plz write stepwise in details as per kp so that students like me, can understand it well. This is really a good case and genuine queries can be discussed Thanks and regards Sheetal Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah || Hari Om, Dear Sir, Your post is valuable to me. I am re-meditating on it and shall respond if I am called for to share anything worthwhile. I had already admitted, I failed when I saw this chart first time. In variably I examine houses signified by lord of constellation that houses Cuspal Sublord of Main house for matter under consideration. I give credence to them, in determining matters they hold seed of.that could manefest for Native. Also please permit , many time i find conj and aspect alter the emerging picure . Please ,understand , I am not contradicting or teaching any thing ,I am only trying to learn,How to stop failing. May be I could be wrong. Please give a fair trial, although my observation could be insignificant but may prove helpful in better compehension . with regards. OM TATSAT-----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - sunil gondhalekar Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:26 PM Re: KP_marriage dear swami, your following explanation Please look Sun is deposited in constellation of Moon. BUT Moon has Mer and Jupiter in its constellation So Matter will be signified by Jup and Merc. Jup is not in strength for in its constellation Mars is posited. So it appeared as Bhukti lord as well as Antra .Next rah as sookham does not call for any explanation. has disapointed us.the explaination shows that we have to judge again star lord? whether this is to be applied to every case?then KP will be more complicated. members are requested to focus on this point -sunil gondhalekar On 4/22/08, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah || Hari Om, Dear Friends, I feel the post has generated good interest; as barring a few active experts, many have tried honestly. I am grateful to all who have taken interest in helping me understand. Since Sunil Ji is giver of 4 step methodology, and he responded on 28 th March itself I consider, My comments are uncalled for. I am thankful to other friends for their efforts in explaining the event and its timing by 4 step method. It was really a good learning experience. Background. This post was at a time when debate between moderator and one senior friend was at peak on issue of what KP is and what is not. Just before that in another case marriage Timing had been under discussion, the case was about one "ATUL's Marriage." I am taught that if we correctly know how to apply RP theory, other variation of methodology is not needed. I have been minutely examining this statement and am not fully convinced , there are many gaps in rules handed over to us and many time we find no way to predict by KP alone. Out of many cases, it was one case of native known very closely therefore I posted the Data of a Native, just to discover gaps in my understanding. I submit respectfully to all members of list, it was not a quiz; it was not a challenge nor was an Effort to seek post mortem reading. Observations. Astrology as practiced now a days is far from devoted methodical analysis. Barring few exception Predictions are avoided at all cost but most of the writings in astrology are justification of past events that is why Successful predictions are praised very often vehemently. Let me first emphatically accept it is one of the cases where I miserably failed, around 1981, when I was attempting to check if data could sanction other happenings that took place with the Native till then. Here it is pertinent to state that most of the happenings of Native are easily amenable to Vedic astrology so Doubt about Birth time is out of question. Now in order to share how I see it after so many years of study after 1981, (I am supposed to show how I am proceeding.) I take KP ayanamsa as Prof KSK has given in his Reader 1,For 1945 It is 22D 59M. Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Rah MD: 1967-05-09 - 1985-05-09 Jup AD: 1970-01-20 - 1972-06-15 Jup PD: 1970-01-20 - 1970-05-16 Therefore Marriage occurred on 8 May 2008 in Rah/Jup/Jup/Rah. 1. How Jupiter gave marriage as Bhukti and pratyantra lord? I think qualification of Rahu giving marriage is not under doubt. 2. Marriage by Sun is not promised, as Sub lord does not signify II,VII and XI .Marriage is not possible? Why rely on Sun as sub lord of VII the way most people see to assess if marriage is promised? To see what Matters Sun as Sub lord of VII cusp , Signify Should we not examine constellation it occupies? Please look Sun is deposited in constellation of Moon. BUT Moon has Mer and Jupiter in its constellation So Matter will be signified by Jup and Merc. Jup is not in strength for in its constellation Mars is posited. So it appeared as Bhukti lord as well as Antra .Next rah as sookham does not call for any explanation. Here Sun is conjunct Jupiter. Distance is very less.2 deg 27 minutes. Since Sun is very important planet for marriage of Native. Before we conclude denial we must examine Sun thoroughly. That is conjunction, aspects it receives and houses it signifies by Constellation as well as sub. I hope DBA are obvious in light of above approach. I am sorry for late posting on this thread. Sorry if I have committed mistakes, With regards. RCS. OM TATSAT-----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Sheetal Monday, April 21, 2008 7:30 PM Fwd: KP_marriage Dear Swaimiji plz reveal your answer about the marriage and marital happiness. Plz write stepwise in details as per kp so that students like me, can understand it well. This is really a good case and genuine queries can be discussed Thanks and regards Sheetal Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. 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Guest guest Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Dear Mr.Luther, I'm also very prominent follower & practioner of KP...so i wud like to read the below mentioned document I tried in the files section of the group but cudn't find it can u tell me where it is stored. Thansk & regards K.Sivakumaran -- > > Respected Swamiji, Dr. Sheetal and friends those who are interested, > I have made an attempted to solve the problem presented by Respected Swamiji and attaching the file to this message. Since it is very long I could not put it here. Sorry for inconvenience. Kindly see the attachment. I do invite comments and criticism from all. > > Thanking you . > > Dr. Luther > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Sorry to reply so late as I was away from stations to attend defence expo at kuala lampur. Ok nice to hear from your ends as you have a open mind to accept. So you will definitely succeed to be good astrologer in future.Our best wishes is always with you. With regards. Mr Ghosh. Luther Rath <rathluther Sent: Friday, 18 April, 2008 11:22:09 AMRe: KP_marriage Dear Mr Ghosh, Thank you very much for your compliments. Let your blessings and best wishes be with me to improve my proficiency. Please never hesitate to point out my mistakes. Thanking ou again. Dr. Luther.Chittaranajn Ghosh <chittaranajnghosh@ > wrote: Dr.Luther, I am please to inform you after going through your attached file with analysis.Your approach toward the problems is in right directions.More practice will give you confidence in acheiveing the accurate results/predictions . With our best wishes. Regards, < Mr Ghosh. Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comMonday, 14 April, 2008 9:11:11 AMRe: KP_marriage Respected Swamiji, Dr. Sheetal and friends those who are interested, I have made an attempted to solve the problem presented by Respected Swamiji and attaching the file to this message. Since it is very long I could not put it here. Sorry for inconvenience. Kindly see the attachment. I do invite comments and criticism from all. Thanking you . Dr. LutherSheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Swamiji My analysis by 4step theory 7th sub is SUN, signifies 5,11 (due to 3rd asp (60*approx) of shani on star lord Moon 3,10,11)and 2 because Sun's sublord BUDH is in conj with GURU(4*) and GURU's asp on 2nd cusp exactly1*.40' =5,11,2 +3and 9 Shows marriage Negating house are 4,6,10,12 which shows disharmony in Marriage. SUN in BUDH conj 1*40' and in Virgo so chance of pleural marriage is there. Marriage took place on 8th may 70 in RAHU-GURU-GURU- RAHU RAHU= 2,11,3,9+ 6,10,12 GURU=5,11,3+ 4,10 Chain of 2,5,11 is completed( in abscence of 7 supporting houses like 5 and 8 can be taken to complete the chain) TRANSIT of DBAS (1st 2steps) and Illuminaries on Marriage day= GURU-was trainsiting in Moon sub( signf of 2 by Guru asp) RAHU-was transiting in Ketu sub (2 ,8) Sun was transiting in Shukra star ( strong significator of 5,7) Moon was transiting in Mars star( 7,5 on transit day Mars in conj with Shukra on same degree ) This shows the favourable transit. Though marriage took place on 8th May 70 in Rahu Suksma, but if it was solved as a BC chart with unknown marriage dt, I would also have predicted in Shukra Sukshma as it is the only isgnificator of 7th house instead of Rahu Suksma.So period would have been few wks prior ie April 70 Regards Dr Sheetal On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Dear Swamiji Plz write about the marital harmony of the perticular person and did he marry once only? Just I need it to tally for study purpose Thanks & regards Sheetal On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 8:11 AM, swami <swami wrote: || Om Gurave Namah || Hari Om, Dear Sir, Your post is valuable to me. I am re-meditating on it and shall respond if I am called for to share anything worthwhile. I had already admitted, I failed when I saw this chart first time. In variably I examine houses signified by lord of constellation that houses Cuspal Sublord of Main house for matter under consideration. I give credence to them, in determining matters they hold seed of.that could manefest for Native. Also please permit , many time i find conj and aspect alter the emerging picure . Please ,understand , I am not contradicting or teaching any thing ,I am only trying to learn,How to stop failing. May be I could be wrong. Please give a fair trial, although my observation could be insignificant but may prove helpful in better compehension . with regards. OM TATSAT----------------------- " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " -- - sunil gondhalekar Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:26 PM Re: KP_marriage dear swami, your following explanation Please look Sun is deposited in constellation of Moon. BUT Moon has Mer and Jupiter in its constellation So Matter will be signified by Jup and Merc. Jup is not in strength for in its constellation Mars is posited. So it appeared as Bhukti lord as well as Antra .Next rah as sookham does not call for any explanation. has disapointed us.the explaination shows that we have to judge again star lord? whether this is to be applied to every case?then KP will be more complicated. members are requested to focus on this point -sunil gondhalekar On 4/22/08, swami <swami wrote: || Om Gurave Namah || Hari Om, Dear Friends, I feel the post has generated good interest; as barring a few active experts, many have tried honestly. I am grateful to all who have taken interest in helping me understand. Since Sunil Ji is giver of 4 step methodology, and he responded on 28 th March itself I consider, My comments are uncalled for. I am thankful to other friends for their efforts in explaining the event and its timing by 4 step method. It was really a good learning experience. Background. This post was at a time when debate between moderator and one senior friend was at peak on issue of what KP is and what is not. Just before that in another case marriage Timing had been under discussion, the case was about one " ATUL's Marriage. " I am taught that if we correctly know how to apply RP theory, other variation of methodology is not needed. I have been minutely examining this statement and am not fully convinced , there are many gaps in rules handed over to us and many time we find no way to predict by KP alone. Out of many cases, it was one case of native known very closely therefore I posted the Data of a Native, just to discover gaps in my understanding. I submit respectfully to all members of list, it was not a quiz; it was not a challenge nor was an Effort to seek post mortem reading. Observations. Astrology as practiced now a days is far from devoted methodical analysis. Barring few exception Predictions are avoided at all cost but most of the writings in astrology are justification of past events that is why Successful predictions are praised very often vehemently. Let me first emphatically accept it is one of the cases where I miserably failed, around 1981, when I was attempting to check if data could sanction other happenings that took place with the Native till then. Here it is pertinent to state that most of the happenings of Native are easily amenable to Vedic astrology so Doubt about Birth time is out of question. Now in order to share how I see it after so many years of study after 1981, (I am supposed to show how I am proceeding.) I take KP ayanamsa as Prof KSK has given in his Reader 1,For 1945 It is 22D 59M. Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Rah MD: 1967-05-09 - 1985-05-09 Jup AD: 1970-01-20 - 1972-06-15 Jup PD: 1970-01-20 - 1970-05-16 Therefore Marriage occurred on 8 May 2008 in Rah/Jup/Jup/Rah. 1. How Jupiter gave marriage as Bhukti and pratyantra lord? I think qualification of Rahu giving marriage is not under doubt. 2. Marriage by Sun is not promised, as Sub lord does not signify II,VII and XI .Marriage is not possible? Why rely on Sun as sub lord of VII the way most people see to assess if marriage is promised? To see what Matters Sun as Sub lord of VII cusp , Signify Should we not examine constellation it occupies? Please look Sun is deposited in constellation of Moon. BUT Moon has Mer and Jupiter in its constellation So Matter will be signified by Jup and Merc. Jup is not in strength for in its constellation Mars is posited. So it appeared as Bhukti lord as well as Antra .Next rah as sookham does not call for any explanation. Here Sun is conjunct Jupiter. Distance is very less.2 deg 27 minutes. Since Sun is very important planet for marriage of Native. Before we conclude denial we must examine Sun thoroughly. That is conjunction, aspects it receives and houses it signifies by Constellation as well as sub. I hope DBA are obvious in light of above approach. I am sorry for late posting on this thread. Sorry if I have committed mistakes, With regards. RCS. OM TATSAT----------------------- " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " -- - Sheetal Monday, April 21, 2008 7:30 PM Fwd: KP_marriage Dear Swaimiji plz reveal your answer about the marriage and marital happiness. Plz write stepwise in details as per kp so that students like me, can understand it well. This is really a good case and genuine queries can be discussed Thanks and regards Sheetal Dear Friends, Can any one tell me how this man is married and had marital happiness? Data DOB 4 Oct 1945 TOB 19:29 (War time was 20:29) POB 27N11 78E02. He was married on 8 May 1970.Comments strictly based on KP will be appreciated. With kind regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Dr. Luther Analysis While reading the question of Swamijee two questions come in to my mind. 1. Whether the horoscope promises any marriage of the person? 2. If it does then why on 8th of May 1970? 1. Whether the horoscope promises any marriage of the person? Normally marriage is predicted as promised if the sub-lord of the 7th cusp signifies the 2nd or 11 houses. In this case the 7th cusp sub-lord is Sun. The Sun owns 6th house and it is posited in the 6th (negating the matters of 7th). The luminary aspects XII house. It is aspected (3rd aspect) by Saturn lord of X (negating house to XI). It is also aspected (4th aspect) by Mars owner of VIII and the Ascendant. Both the Saturn and the Mars aspect from III house (non significant). We may consider its conjunction with Jupiter and Mercury. It is sandwiched between these two planets. They signify houses IX, XII, III and VI. All these findings do not support a marriage. One would predict with out any hesitation that the person would not marry at all. How did he marry at all? Many of us conceive that the sub-lord of the Ascendant should signify VII to give a marriage. In this case the sub-lord Mars Signifies the Ascendant, III and VIII but not II, VII or XI. Again it denies marriage. Let me now consider the other two cusps concerned with marriage. They are II and XI. 2nd cusp sub-lord happens to be Saturn. This signifies III, X and XI, houses not connected with marriage. 11th cusp sub-lord is Venus the governor for marriage. It owns houses II and VII and occupies V a benevolent house. Thus Venus connects all II, VII and XI. This could be the only significators that shows the hope for marriage. So far we have considered for the 1st person. Let me try to view for the spouse. For the spouse we take the Ascendant as the 7th house. The sub-lord of Ascendant is Mars. Let us examine if Mars signifies the II, VII and XI counted from the Ascendant of the spouse. These houses are VIII, the Ascendant and V. Mars owns the VIII and the Ascendant. This also favours the marriage of the spouse. Therefore Venus supports marriage of the first person and Mars does the job for the spouse. Therefore Marriage is promised. 2. If it does then why on 8th of May 1970? When the person completed 20 years of age (marriageable age) He was running dasa of Mars. Could Mars give marriage? Mars owns the Ascendant and VIII. It occupies III. Mars transited in Aridra star, ruled by Jupiter that rules IX and XII and occupies VI. So Mars does not signify marriage. Mars dasa passed away. Rahu dasa began in Rahu dasa was running from May 1967 to Mat 1985. Could Rahu give marriage? Rahu occupies II in Gemini. It occupies its own star Aridra. So Rahu is strong enough to give marriage. Rahu is in the sub of Saturn lord of XI. So Rahu has to give marriage. On 14th May 1967 Rahu transited at 12-57 degrees in Aries. It was in Aswini, Kethu’s star. Kethu is agent of Jupiter lord of IX and XII and Jupiter occupies VI. So Rahu would not give as long as it transits in that star. Rahu enters Revati, ruled by Mercury on 16-08-1968. Mercury is not a significators of houses concerned with marriage. Rahu transits in this star till 21st September 1968 and then enters Utarabhadra on 22nd September and transits till 30th May 1968. This star is ruled by Saturn lord of XI. So Rahu is aspected to give marriage during this period. Let us examine transit of another slow moving significators, Saturn. Saturn transits in Aswini, ruled by Kethu in the sub of Kethu. Saturn was retrograde and would enter Revati in Pisces in subsequent dates. Mercury is not a significators. So this period does not give marriage. Next star to be transited by Rahu is that of Jupiter. Jupiter is not a significators. Rahu enters Satavisha on 7th February 1970 and leaves on 17th October 1970. So Rahu has to give marriage in its own star during this period. Let us again examine transit of Saturn. During this period Saturn ha become direct and transits in Kethu star in sub of Saturn itself. As long as Saturn is in Kethu star it would not give marriage. It has to enter Bharani, star of Venus lord of II to give marriage. It enters Bharani on 20th March 1970. Since Sun, Moon and Mars are not significators Saturn has to transit in the sub of Rahu, dasa lord, to give marriage. It enters Rahu sub on 28th April 1970. and passes through till 13th May 1970. Now the range is within 15 days. I would examine transit of Sun at this stage. Sun transits in Aries in Bharani ruled by Venus, lord of II; in sub of Saturn, lord of XI. To fix the date we are to view in to transit of Moon. Moon transits in Taurus (owned by Venus) in the star Mrigasira ruled by Mars who is in conjunct with Venus on 8th May 1970. Let us see the role of Jupiter which holds the portfolio of Bhukti and antra lord. Jupiter aspects II, it owns IX the 11th to VII. So it does not hinder marriage. If we see the transit of Jupiter on the date of marriage, it is seen to transit in Libra in Chitra star. Lord of Libra, Venus, and lord of Chitra the Mars are in rapt conjunction. Thus the transit of Jupiter is also quite supportive for the marriage."sivakumaran.k" <cooldude_777_2000 wrote: Dear Mr.Luther,I'm also very prominent follower & practioner of KP...so i wud like to read the below mentioned document I tried in the files section of the group but cudn't find it can u tell me where it is stored.Thansk & regardsK.Sivakumaran-->> Respected Swamiji, Dr. Sheetal and friends those who are interested,> I have made an attempted to solve the problem presented by Respected Swamiji and attaching the file to this message. Since it is very long I could not put it here. Sorry for inconvenience. Kindly see the attachment. I do invite comments and criticism from all.> > Thanking you .> > Dr. Luther> > Dear Sir. Thank you for your inquisitiveness. I have provided a copy o fmy analysis above. Please go through and let me know your comments and sugestions. Thanking ou. Dr. Luther Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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