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Mr.KSK and his son gave different significators for the same event. Mr.KSK took 7th cuspal starlord or 7th cuspal sublord. Mr.Subramaniam took 7th cuspal sublord¢s starlord or 7th cuspal sublord¢s sublord. It creates confusion to the learners.

 

 

 

 

 

Lord

 

Mr.KSK in page 253 of volume II

 

Mr.Subramaniam in page 64 Punarphoo

 

Union

 

 

sun

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub¢ star or sub¢sub

 

Repulsion- no pleasure in union

 

 

moon

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub¢ star or sub¢sub

 

Very pleasant, like a honey moon

 

 

Mars or ketu

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub¢ star or sub¢sub

 

Silly quarrels, male forces female, displeasure exceeds pleasure

 

 

mercury

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub¢ star or sub¢sub

 

Enjoys more than once

 

 

jupiter

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub¢ star or sub¢sub

 

Normal, pleasant, dutiful

 

 

venus

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub¢ star or sub¢sub

 

64 varieties of leela, extreme pleasure, dance

 

 

Saturn or rahu

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub¢ star or sub¢sub

 

After intercourse dissatisfaction, displeasure, disharmony, very short durationR.Dhanabalan

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Late.Shree K.S.Krishnamoorthy's stellar/sub-sub system proved the best.His sons too following the same I feel.But,they might have found some new points as per their research which may be they feel right.

In BTR I followed the KSK and add my own method in fixing the lagna giving prominance to the aspects of planets at the time of BTR.Some scholor of astrology/KP astrologer failed to predict me but their analusis was marvolous.But they as well as I dint observed the 11th cusp saturn is in retrogration and strong significator of lagna,8th and 12th causind delay and success to opponants.

We should go through books and we should apply with our own analysis as every individual horoscope is an examination paper for an astrologer.

All 7th cusp sub lord which signifies 2,7,11/2,5,7,11 will not bless marriage unless and until the dasha period runs.

Secondly a person with significator of 1 and 11th will get success in al matter of life whethr it is marriage, children,job,promorion .wealth. etc.

If any one negative significance like 1,8,12/6,8,12/bhadhka/maraka then the fruit wil be delayed or even some time it will be deny.

All the best at all moments.

Sahhasra Saagara.

--- On Sat, 2/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan Who is correct? Mr.KSK or his sons"kpsystem groups" Saturday, 2 August, 2008, 1:08 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear members

Mr.KSK and his son gave different significators for the same event. Mr.KSK took 7th cuspal starlord or 7th cuspal sublord. Mr.Subramaniam took 7th cuspal sublord’s starlord or 7th cuspal sublord’s sublord. It creates confusion to the learners.

 

 

 

 

 

Lord

 

Mr.KSK in page 253 of volume II

 

Mr.Subramaniam in page 64 Punarphoo

 

Union

 

 

sun

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

 

Repulsion- no pleasure in union

 

 

moon

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

 

Very pleasant, like a honey moon

 

 

Mars or ketu

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

 

Silly quarrels, male forces female, displeasure exceeds pleasure

 

 

mercury

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

 

Enjoys more than once

 

 

jupiter

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

 

Normal, pleasant, dutiful

 

 

venus

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

 

64 varieties of leela, extreme pleasure, dance

 

 

Saturn or rahu

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

 

After intercourse dissatisfaction, displeasure, disharmony, very short durationR.Dhanabalan

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please follow KSK only, raichur anant mumbai--- On Sat, 8/2/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan Who is correct? Mr.KSK or his sons"kpsystem groups" Saturday, August 2, 2008, 1:08 PM

 

Dear members

Mr.KSK and his son gave different significators for the same event. Mr.KSK took 7th cuspal starlord or 7th cuspal sublord. Mr.Subramaniam took 7th cuspal sublord¢s starlord or 7th cuspal sublord¢s sublord. It creates confusion to the learners.

 

 

 

 

Lord

Mr.KSK in page 253 of volume II

Mr.Subramaniam in page 64 Punarphoo

Union

 

sun

7th cusp star or sub

7th cusp sub¢ star or sub¢sub

Repulsion- no pleasure in union

 

moon

7th cusp star or sub

7th cusp sub¢ star or sub¢sub

Very pleasant, like a honey moon

 

Mars or ketu

7th cusp star or sub

7th cusp sub¢ star or sub¢sub

Silly quarrels, male forces female, displeasure exceeds pleasure

 

mercury

7th cusp star or sub

7th cusp sub¢ star or sub¢sub

Enjoys more than once

 

jupiter

7th cusp star or sub

7th cusp sub¢ star or sub¢sub

Normal, pleasant, dutiful

 

venus

7th cusp star or sub

7th cusp sub¢ star or sub¢sub

64 varieties of leela, extreme pleasure, dance

 

Saturn or rahu

7th cusp star or sub

7th cusp sub¢ star or sub¢sub

After intercourse dissatisfaction, displeasure, disharmony, very short durationR.Dhanabalan

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Dear DhanabalanjiHow many charts have you analyzed to date?You are very good in tabulating results.Do you have the Database, without name of the queriests? (to analyze events that was predicted right?) Amma Saranam!RegardsRameshhttp://www.amma.orgDhanabalan R <r.dhanabalankpsystem groups Saturday, 2 August, 2008 1:08:12 PM Who is correct? Mr.KSK or his sons

 

Dear members

Mr.KSK and his son gave different significators for the same event. Mr.KSK took 7th cuspal starlord or 7th cuspal sublord. Mr.Subramaniam took 7th cuspal sublord’s starlord or 7th cuspal sublord’s sublord. It creates confusion to the learners.

 

 

 

 

Lord

Mr.KSK in page 253 of volume II

Mr.Subramaniam in page 64 Punarphoo

Union

 

sun

7th cusp star or sub

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

Repulsion- no pleasure in union

 

moon

7th cusp star or sub

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

Very pleasant, like a honey moon

 

Mars or ketu

7th cusp star or sub

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

Silly quarrels, male forces female, displeasure exceeds pleasure

 

mercury

7th cusp star or sub

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

Enjoys more than once

 

jupiter

7th cusp star or sub

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

Normal, pleasant, dutiful

 

venus

7th cusp star or sub

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

64 varieties of leela, extreme pleasure, dance

 

Saturn or rahu

7th cusp star or sub

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

After intercourse dissatisfaction, displeasure, disharmony, very short durationR.Dhanabalan

 

 

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Dear Mr.Raichur,

Allow me to submit the following with due respects to you...

I'm sure that you do appreciate that researches by K.P. followers like the late K.R.Kar, Prof. S.Balachandran,Mr.A.R Raichur,Mr Balan and his students like Balasekar and Bhaskaran,Vaikari Ramamurthi,the late Mr.K.M.Subramaniam,and not forgetting KSK's illustrious sons,K.Ganapathi,

K.Subramaniam and K.Hariharan and also the recent work by Mr.Gondhalekar and many other K.P. Scholars,the Krishnamurthi Padhdhati has been progressively evolving continuously,therefore,

sticking only to what our late Guruji KSK had said in 1966,and reluctance to accept new findings,on whatever grounds put forward,will not be fair to any science...for example,the gaining in importance of the sub-sub & the sub-sub-sub as deciding factors etc,earlier hinted-to by our late Guruji,only in passing,but who unfortunately passed away a little too soon... is being now debated,to my mind, quite unnecessarily...only adding to and creating confusion in the minds of K.P. followers...

In my personal opinion,ALL new findings if proven to be able to give effectively accurate and consistently dependable results,should be accepted...and brought into current use...that is the only way in which any science can progress...

The above,is only to suggest that, KSK as well as his sons are correct in their own ways...

With highest regards,

Yours sincerely,

L.Y.Rao

 

 

Raichur-a-r <raichurar Sent: Saturday, 2 August, 2008 4:47:58 PMRe: Who is correct? Mr.KSK or his sons

 

 

 

 

 

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raichur anant mumbai--- On Sat, 8/2/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > Who is correct? Mr.KSK or his sons"kpsystem groups" <@gro ups.com>Saturday, August 2, 2008, 1:08 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear members

Mr.KSK and his son gave different significators for the same event. Mr.KSK took 7th cuspal starlord or 7th cuspal sublord. Mr.Subramaniam took 7th cuspal sublord’s starlord or 7th cuspal sublord’s sublord. It creates confusion to the learners.

 

 

 

 

 

Lord

 

Mr.KSK in page 253 of volume II

 

Mr.Subramaniam in page 64 Punarphoo

 

Union

 

 

sun

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

 

Repulsion- no pleasure in union

 

 

moon

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

 

Very pleasant, like a honey moon

 

 

Mars or ketu

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

 

Silly quarrels, male forces female, displeasure exceeds pleasure

 

 

mercury

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

 

Enjoys more than once

 

 

jupiter

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

 

Normal, pleasant, dutiful

 

 

venus

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

 

64 varieties of leela, extreme pleasure, dance

 

 

Saturn or rahu

 

7th cusp star or sub

 

7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

 

After intercourse dissatisfaction, displeasure, disharmony, very short durationR.Dhanabalan

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Dear Yogesh Rao,

 

With repects to all stalwarts of KP,you will recall

we went thru such discussions two years ago.

 

Assuming Dhanabalan is right in everything he says,

where do we go from here. Most astrologers, young and old in

experience have experimented with various mutations of KP and all are

right in their own way. Only due success in their respective

applications, they continue to practice their choices.

 

Take the question of RPs , few years ago, we had

only five components, Lagna signlord,/starlord ,Moon

signlord,/starlord and Day lord.Nodes were also included. Later we

added sublords, and these days we look at subsublords

too.Retroplanets have their own connotations amongst the

practioners,some reject others accept. At this point of time we can

generate another controversey,quoting the scriptures.

 

Another issue was on the correct birth time and

BTR,with kind assistance of the seniors/stalwarts, after studying

hundreds of horoscopes, it was conclusively estabilished, the success

rate was less than 85%.The reports are in the Files section.The

purists will not accept the findings because 15% shortfall is large

value.

 

In conclusion, I would submit,healthy debate is

good, but doesnot in any way improve the system, Man is an imperfect

species,hence imperfectness in everything he does.Does not matter how

big or small.Humility lies in accept this Unchanging Reality.

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1

wrote:

>

> Dear Mr.Raichur,

>                           Allow me to

submit the following with due respects to you...

>                           I'm sure that

you do appreciate that researches by K.P. followers like the late

K.R.Kar,  Prof. S.Balachandran,Mr.A.R Raichur,Mr Balan and his

 

 

 

 

 

 

students like Balasekar and Bhaskaran,Vaikari Ramamurthi,the late

Mr.K.M.Subramaniam,and not forgetting KSK's  illustrious

sons,K.Ganapathi,

> K.Subramaniam and K.Hariharan and also the recent work by

Mr.Gondhalekar and many other K.P. Scholars,the Krishnamurthi

Padhdhati  has been progressively evolving continuously,therefore,

> sticking only to what our late Guruji KSK had said in 1966,and

reluctance to accept new findings,on whatever grounds put

forward,will not be fair to any science...for example,the gaining in

importance of the sub-sub & the sub-sub-sub as deciding factors

etc,earlier hinted-to by our late Guruji,only in passing,but who

unfortunately passed away a little too soon... is being now

debated,to my mind, quite unnecessarily...only adding to and creating

confusion in the minds of K.P. followers...

>                           In my personal

opinion,ALL new findings if proven to be able to give effectively

accurate and consistently dependable results,should be accepted...and

brought into current use...that is the only way in which any science

can progress...

>                           The above,is

only to suggest that,KSK as well as his sons are correct in their own

ways...

>                           With highest

regards,

>                            Yours

sincerely,

>                            L.Y.Rao

>       

>                            

>                          

>

>

>

>

> Raichur-a-r <raichurar

>

> Saturday, 2 August, 2008 4:47:58 PM

> Re: Who is correct? Mr.KSK or his sons

>

>

> please follow KSK only,

>

>

> raichur anant mumbai

>

> --- On Sat, 8/2/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

>

> Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

> Who is correct? Mr.KSK or his sons

> " kpsystem groups " <@gro ups.com>

> Saturday, August 2, 2008, 1:08 PM

>

>

> Dear members

> Mr.KSK and his son gave different significators for the same event.

Mr.KSK took 7th cuspal starlord or 7th cuspal sublord. Mr.Subramaniam

took 7th cuspal sublord’s starlord or 7th cuspal sublord’s

sublord. It creates confusion to the learners.

> Lord Mr.KSK in page 253 of volume II Mr.Subramaniam in page 64

Punarphoo Union

> sun 7th cusp star or sub 7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

Repulsion- no pleasure in union

> moon 7th cusp star or sub 7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub Very

pleasant, like a honey moon

> Mars or ketu 7th cusp star or sub 7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

Silly quarrels, male forces female, displeasure exceeds pleasure

> mercury 7th cusp star or sub 7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

Enjoys more than once

> jupiter 7th cusp star or sub 7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

Normal, pleasant, dutiful

> venus 7th cusp star or sub 7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub 64

varieties of leela, extreme pleasure, dance

> Saturn or rahu 7th cusp star or sub 7th cusp sub’ star or

sub’sub After intercourse dissatisfaction, displeasure, disharmony,

very short duration R.Dhanabalan

>

>

>

>

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" My Friends, we have come upto this- you should continue the

research and you may reach to further truth. "

-K.S. Krishnamurti

 

" We do not claim ths book is the last one on this subject of

Astrology and Education neither do we claim that it is infallible.

The knowledge which we have gained by years of unceasing labour, we

are sharing with the world. We give it and if other can add it, we

shall rejoice. "

-K. Subramaniam

 

Is there any research finding rule practically useful for KP for

serious discussion?

 

 

, " R Satish " <rsatish1942

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Yogesh Rao,

>

> With repects to all stalwarts of KP,you will

recall

> we went thru such discussions two years ago.

>

> Assuming Dhanabalan is right in everything he

says,

> where do we go from here. Most astrologers, young and old in

> experience have experimented with various mutations of KP and all

are

> right in their own way. Only due success in their respective

> applications, they continue to practice their choices.

>

> Take the question of RPs , few years ago, we had

> only five components, Lagna signlord,/starlord ,Moon

> signlord,/starlord and Day lord.Nodes were also included. Later we

> added sublords, and these days we look at subsublords

> too.Retroplanets have their own connotations amongst the

> practioners,some reject others accept. At this point of time we

can

> generate another controversey,quoting the scriptures.

>

> Another issue was on the correct birth time and

> BTR,with kind assistance of the seniors/stalwarts, after studying

> hundreds of horoscopes, it was conclusively estabilished, the

success

> rate was less than 85%.The reports are in the Files section.The

> purists will not accept the findings because 15% shortfall is

large

> value.

>

> In conclusion, I would submit,healthy debate

is

> good, but doesnot in any way improve the system, Man is an

imperfect

> species,hence imperfectness in everything he does.Does not matter

how

> big or small.Humility lies in accept this Unchanging Reality.

>

> Regards,

>

> Satish

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr.Raichur,

> >                           Allow me to

> submit the following with due respects to you...

> >                           I'm sure that

> you do appreciate that researches by K.P. followers like the late

> K.R.Kar,  Prof. S.Balachandran,Mr.A.R Raichur,Mr Balan and his

students like Balasekar and Bhaskaran,Vaikari Ramamurthi,the late

> Mr.K.M.Subramaniam,and not forgetting KSK's  illustrious

> sons,K.Ganapathi,

> > K.Subramaniam and K.Hariharan and also the recent work by

> Mr.Gondhalekar and many other K.P. Scholars,the Krishnamurthi

> Padhdhati  has been progressively evolving

continuously,therefore,

> > sticking only to what our late Guruji KSK had said in 1966,and

> reluctance to accept new findings,on whatever grounds put

> forward,will not be fair to any science...for example,the gaining

in

> importance of the sub-sub & the sub-sub-sub as deciding factors

> etc,earlier hinted-to by our late Guruji,only in passing,but who

> unfortunately passed away a little too soon... is being now

> debated,to my mind, quite unnecessarily...only adding to and

creating

> confusion in the minds of K.P. followers...

> >                           In my

personal

> opinion,ALL new findings if proven to be able to give effectively

> accurate and consistently dependable results,should be

accepted...and

> brought into current use...that is the only way in which any

science

> can progress...

> >                           The above,is

> only to suggest that,KSK as well as his sons are correct in their

own

> ways...

> >                           With highest

> regards,

> >                            Yours

> sincerely,

> >                            L.Y.Rao

> >       

> >                            

> >                          

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@>

> >

> > Saturday, 2 August, 2008 4:47:58 PM

> > Re: Who is correct? Mr.KSK or his sons

> >

> >

> > please follow KSK only,

> >

> >

> > raichur anant mumbai

> >

> > --- On Sat, 8/2/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

> >

> > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

> > Who is correct? Mr.KSK or his sons

> > " kpsystem groups " <@gro ups.com>

> > Saturday, August 2, 2008, 1:08 PM

> >

> >

> > Dear members

> > Mr.KSK and his son gave different significators for the same

event.

> Mr.KSK took 7th cuspal starlord or 7th cuspal sublord.

Mr.Subramaniam

> took 7th cuspal sublord’s starlord or 7th cuspal sublord’s

> sublord. It creates confusion to the learners.

> > Lord Mr.KSK in page 253 of volume II Mr.Subramaniam in page 64

> Punarphoo Union

> > sun 7th cusp star or sub 7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

> Repulsion- no pleasure in union

> > moon 7th cusp star or sub 7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub Very

> pleasant, like a honey moon

> > Mars or ketu 7th cusp star or sub 7th cusp sub’ star or

sub’sub

> Silly quarrels, male forces female, displeasure exceeds pleasure

> > mercury 7th cusp star or sub 7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

> Enjoys more than once

> > jupiter 7th cusp star or sub 7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub

> Normal, pleasant, dutiful

> > venus 7th cusp star or sub 7th cusp sub’ star or sub’sub 64

> varieties of leela, extreme pleasure, dance

> > Saturn or rahu 7th cusp star or sub 7th cusp sub’ star or

> sub’sub After intercourse dissatisfaction, displeasure,

disharmony,

> very short duration R.Dhanabalan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on

> http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-

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