Guest guest Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 Dear Mr.H.S.Nagi I would like to know about my Venus dasha , will u kindly analise as per kp and give your valuable findings . Here is my Birth detils. Name: Sahhasra Saagara Birth time: 2-45 am. IST. Birth place : PeriyaPatna. Latitute : 12 N 20 / Longitude : 76 E 13 please give me the postal adress so i can send some dakshine. Thanking you yours faithfully. Sahhasra Saagara --- On Wed, 6/8/08, bkhardeep <bkhardeep wrote: bkhardeep <bkhardeep Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect Date: Wednesday, 6 August, 2008, 5:41 PM Sahhasra Saagara.UNLESS YOU SUPPLY DATA, YOUR CLAIMS WILL SEEM ONLY SELF BOASTING.IF YOU HAVE SOME SYSTEM THEN COME IN GROUP AND DISCUSS LOGICALLY HOW YOU ARRIVE AT CETAIN CONCLUSION, LIKE IN GROUP PRANAV, JAGDISH, KANAK, TINWIN, AND MANY OTHER HAVE DONE.IN KP EVEN A CHILD CAN PREDICT.BE HAPPY.HS NAGI@gro ups.com, Sagar S <ssagar86@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Dhanabalan,> I have used ashtakavarga system of predictions for predicting election seats and marks cards.> 16 elections proved it. four marks card tallied with the same as I had predicted .> in fact i am not using other technical points of Ashtakavarga , i used onle binnashtaka varga.> yes KSK doubted it how to consoder ashtakavarga either for sign or for cusp or for bhava.> Dr.BVR analysed in different aspect and tried how to make use of it . > Mostly I had applied it for analysing longivity some time back which proved accurate . But at present i am not having the details of the same as native is expired in the said period as i remember .>  Based on the Horary chart I had predicted to a lady that she will met with an heart attack death in the period of Mars and the same happened.> For any astrologer his running dasha period is most iMportant .Even varaha mihira could not foreeseen the boar is living body or non-living body.>  > As per my knowledge and experience our predictions will be based on vak siddhi and perticular dasha bhukti antara periods.> if our running dasha period is best then our analysis and judgement will be right , if we r running adverse period we will miss some links . SSome events will be hidden by the fate of the native himself , hence we any great scholar wil not get clue of such events as it can not be changed by any one even lord Brahma the creator.> Sahhasra Saagara.> > --- On Wed, 6/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:> > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...>> Re: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, 6 August, 2008, 9:20 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sagar>  > You said that you predicted correctly with ashtakavarga. Whereas Mr.KSK said that ashtakavarga will not give correct prediction. I think the same is said by Mr.B.V.Raman. >  > Most of the computers are calculating the ashtakavarga using parasara method and Varagamigra method. Even I have tried with ashtakavarga but could not succeed. Ekadipadya sothana, trikona sothana, planet pindu and karaka pindu are able to print out correctly with reliable software.>  > Not only myself, most of the astrologers do not know how to use ashtakavarga for prediction. Some said that it is useful only for transit analysis.>  > It seems that the books available in the market are not explaining correctly how to use ashtakavarga.>  > I have read that even one's life can be calculated accurately with ashtakavarga.>   > Dhanabalan> > --- On Tue, 8/5/08, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) .co.in> wrote:> > Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> Re: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 5:40 PM> > > > > > > > > > Astrology itself from vedic, hence any method introducing time to time is nothing but researched and developed with the same 12 signs,27 constallations, vimshothari dasha periods and 9 planets.>  > Parasara school of thoughts is base and foundation of vedic astrology is only a question and answer between the student Maitreyi and Master parashara. Later many more scolar researched and developed it further more.> Meena stellar astrology, KSK, KB, Khullur . vaikari ramamurthy and many more .>  > need more search in the field of astrology.> I had given the marks card , percentage of seats, etc as well as predicted queka,hurrickanes, early monsoon, floods etc with the help of ashtakavarga and mundane astrology all of my own researched but used vedic astrology method ashtakavarga, mundane astrology.> Sahhasra Saagara.> > --- On Tue, 5/8/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote:> > ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com>> Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, 5 August, 2008, 4:13 PM> > > > > > Thank you Shri Dhanabalan,> I'm greatly encouraged by your kind words.....> Ashutosh> > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash>  > K.P. system is 100% vedic. Mr.KSK developed the K.P. system from vedic astrology only. If you are through in vedic astrology you could understand.. . My advice is before learning k.p., first learn vedic. K.P. is very simple and interesting. It is an advanced stage of vedic.>  > Dhanabalan> > --- On Tue, 8/5/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote:> > ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com>> Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:01 AM> > > > > > > Dear Learned Astrologers,> This discussion though enlightening is extremely confusing for beginners... .... Is KP Astrology like Western Astrology as it uses Placidus System and Raphael's Tables ? Then it means we use the TROPICAL ZODIAC. As we know, VEDIC SYTEM uses SIDEREAL ZODIAC...... . . The debate between the two has been going on for ages and unfortunately only ONE system can be right.> regards,> Ashutosh> > > ------------ --------- --------- -----> > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, tw853 <tw853 > wrote:> > > > > > > > 1. Use the Vedic aspect in KP like in the KP Readers, keeping in > mind that the tighter an orb is, the stronger the aspect (or > conjunction) will be.> > 2. Some experimental applications of the Western aspects in the > original KP 2 volumes are minimised in the KP Readers, perhaps > because of the problem to reconsile the ouright good or bad aspects > depending on the type of aspects in the Western aspects and the KP > principles of judging whether benefic or malefic planet.> > 3. If one wants to use the Western aspects in KP, the articles, for > instance in KP & Astrology, of Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi (not K. > Ganapathi, eldest son of Guruji KSK) are advisable to study. Shri > Raichur had to coporate the Western aspects in his KP SW long ago > especially for him.> > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> > > > > wrote:> >> > Dear members> >  > > I) Refer pages xviii, xix and xx of Reader V (Transit) 2004 > edition.. I reproduce below.> > "According to Westerners the correct method of judgement is as > follows:-> > 1> > 2> > 3….> > 13) The above is followed by westerners and not included in my > system."> >  > > The author explained the western aspect upto para 12 and finally > in para 13, he gave above statement.> >  > > II) Please refer pages 256 and 257 in Reader V. I reproduce.> >  > > "Western system amended by K S K.> > Lords of 1,2.. houses, whenever they, during transit, form > favourable aspects, offer desirable results…, whenever they form > evil aspects during transit, the native wins."> > When Saturn transits in Pisces-Meena- and forms favourable aspect > with its radical position…."> >  > > It seems contradictory to the first point. The author has first > told that the western system is not followed in k.p. Later he gave > examples based on western aspect.> >  > > III) Please refer pages 383 to 388 in volume II (1966).  I > reproduce.> >  > > "It would then be said to be transiting in sextile, square, trine, > etc., to the radical planet or radical cusp."> >  > > The author explained the western aspect and did not tell as above > in para I..> >  > > My question is which aspect we have to use for transit prediction > in k.p.? Western or vedic aspect.> >  > > Dhanabalan> >> > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 How is it up side down that the one making such correct predictions is challenging another one, who is asking him to show his way of prediction for the learning purpose of this group, to predict his chart! Seeing is beleiving. Is there is something interseting in the chart to learn KP, some members will try a KP analysis. Otherwise this is not the forum to make predition but to learn KP. , Sagar S <ssagar86 wrote: > > Dear Mr.H.S.Nagi > I would like to know about my Venus dasha , will u kindly analise as per kp and give your valuable findings . > Here is my Birth detils. > Name: Sahhasra Saagara > Birth time: 2-45 am. IST. > Birth place : PeriyaPatna. > Latitute : 12 N 20 / Longitude : 76 E 13 >  > please give me the postal adress so i can send some dakshine. > Thanking you > yours faithfully. >  > Sahhasra Saagara > > > --- On Wed, 6/8/08, bkhardeep <bkhardeep wrote: > > bkhardeep <bkhardeep > Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect > > Wednesday, 6 August, 2008, 5:41 PM Sahhasra Saagara. > > UNLESS YOU SUPPLY DATA, YOUR CLAIMS WILL SEEM ONLY SELF BOASTING. > IF YOU HAVE SOME SYSTEM THEN COME IN GROUP AND DISCUSS LOGICALLY HOW > YOU ARRIVE AT CETAIN CONCLUSION, LIKE IN GROUP PRANAV, JAGDISH, > KANAK, TINWIN, AND MANY OTHER HAVE DONE. > > IN KP EVEN A CHILD CAN PREDICT. > > BE HAPPY. > HS NAGI > > @gro ups.com, Sagar S <ssagar86@ .> wrote: > > > > Dear Dhanabalan, > > I have used ashtakavarga system of predictions for predicting > election seats and marks cards. > > 16 elections proved it. four marks card tallied with the same as I > had predicted . > > in fact i am not using other technical points of Ashtakavarga , i > used onle binnashtaka varga. > > yes KSK doubted it how to consoder ashtakavarga either for sign or > for cusp or for bhava. > > Dr.BVR analysed in different aspect and tried how to make use of > it . > > Mostly I had applied it for analysing longivity some time back > which proved accurate . But at present i am not having the details > of the same as native is expired in the said period as i remember . > >  Based on the Horary chart I had predicted to a lady that she > will met with an heart attack death in the period of Mars and the > same happened. > > For any astrologer his running dasha period is most > iMportant .Even varaha mihira could not foreeseen the boar is living > body or non-living body. > >  > > As per my knowledge and experience our predictions will be based > on vak siddhi and perticular dasha bhukti antara periods. > > if our running dasha period is best then our analysis and > judgement will be right , if we r running adverse period we will > miss some links . SSome events will be hidden by the fate of the > native himself , hence we any great scholar wil not get clue of such > events as it can not be changed by any one even lord Brahma the > creator. > > Sahhasra Saagara. > > > > --- On Wed, 6/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> > > Re: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For > transit: western aspect or vedic aspect > > @gro ups.com > > Wednesday, 6 August, 2008, 9:20 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sagar > >  > > You said that you predicted correctly with ashtakavarga. Whereas > Mr.KSK said that ashtakavarga will not give correct prediction. I > think the same is said by Mr.B.V.Raman. > >  > > Most of the computers are calculating the ashtakavarga using > parasara method and Varagamigra method. Even I have tried with > ashtakavarga but could not succeed. Ekadipadya sothana, trikona > sothana, planet pindu and karaka pindu are able to print out > correctly with reliable software. > >  > > Not only myself, most of the astrologers do not know how to use > ashtakavarga for prediction. Some said that it is useful only for > transit analysis. > >  > > It seems that the books available in the market are not explaining > correctly how to use ashtakavarga. > >  > > I have read that even one's life can be calculated accurately with > ashtakavarga. > >   > > Dhanabalan > > > > --- On Tue, 8/5/08, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) .co.in> wrote: > > > > Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > Re: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For > transit: western aspect or vedic aspect > > @gro ups.com > > Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 5:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology itself from vedic, hence any method introducing time to > time is nothing but researched and developed with the same 12 > signs,27 constallations, vimshothari dasha periods and 9 planets. > >  > > Parasara school of thoughts is base and foundation of vedic > astrology is only a question and answer between the student Maitreyi > and Master parashara. Later many more scolar researched and > developed it further more. > > Meena stellar astrology, KSK, KB, Khullur . vaikari ramamurthy and > many more . > >  > > need more search in the field of astrology. > > I had given the marks card , percentage of seats, etc as well as > predicted queka,hurrickanes, early monsoon, floods etc with the help > of ashtakavarga and mundane astrology all of my own researched but > used vedic astrology method ashtakavarga, mundane astrology. > > Sahhasra Saagara. > > > > --- On Tue, 5/8/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> > > Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic > aspect > > @gro ups.com > > Tuesday, 5 August, 2008, 4:13 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Shri Dhanabalan, > > I'm greatly encouraged by your kind words..... > > Ashutosh > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash > >  > > K.P. system is 100% vedic. Mr.KSK developed the K.P. system from > vedic astrology only. If you are through in vedic astrology you > could understand.. . My advice is before learning k.p., first learn > vedic. K.P. is very simple and interesting. It is an advanced stage > of vedic. > >  > > Dhanabalan > > > > --- On Tue, 8/5/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> > > Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic > aspect > > @gro ups.com > > Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:01 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned Astrologers, > > This discussion though enlightening is extremely confusing for > beginners... .... Is KP Astrology like Western Astrology as it uses > Placidus System and Raphael's Tables ? Then it means we use the > TROPICAL ZODIAC. As we know, VEDIC SYTEM uses SIDEREAL > ZODIAC...... . . The debate between the two has been going on for > ages and unfortunately only ONE system can be right. > > regards, > > Ashutosh > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ----- > > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Use the Vedic aspect in KP like in the KP Readers, keeping in > > mind that the tighter an orb is, the stronger the aspect (or > > conjunction) will be. > > > > 2. Some experimental applications of the Western aspects in the > > original KP 2 volumes are minimised in the KP Readers, perhaps > > because of the problem to reconsile the ouright good or bad > aspects > > depending on the type of aspects in the Western aspects and the KP > > principles of judging whether benefic or malefic planet. > > > > 3. If one wants to use the Western aspects in KP, the articles, > for > > instance in KP & Astrology, of Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi (not K. > > Ganapathi, eldest son of Guruji KSK) are advisable to study. Shri > > Raichur had to coporate the Western aspects in his KP SW long ago > > especially for him. > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R > <r.dhanabalan@ ...> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear members > > >  > > > I) Refer pages xviii, xix and xx of Reader V (Transit) 2004 > > edition.. I reproduce below. > > > " According to Westerners the correct method of judgement is as > > follows:- > > > 1 > > > 2 > > > 3…. > > > 13) The above is followed by westerners and not included in my > > system. " > > >  > > > The author explained the western aspect upto para 12 and finally > > in para 13, he gave above statement. > > >  > > > II) Please refer pages 256 and 257 in Reader V. I reproduce. > > >  > > > " Western system amended by K S K. > > > Lords of 1,2.. houses, whenever they, during transit, form > > favourable aspects, offer desirable results…, whenever they form > > evil aspects during transit, the native wins. " > > > When Saturn transits in Pisces-Meena- and forms favourable > aspect > > with its radical position…. " > > >  > > > It seems contradictory to the first point. The author has first > > told that the western system is not followed in k.p. Later he gave > > examples based on western aspect. > > >  > > > III) Please refer pages 383 to 388 in volume II (1966).  I > > reproduce. > > >  > > > " It would then be said to be transiting in sextile, square, > trine, > > etc., to the radical planet or radical cusp. " > > >  > > > The author explained the western aspect and did not tell as > above > > in para I.. > > >  > > > My question is which aspect we have to use for transit > prediction > > in k.p.? Western or vedic aspect. > > >  > > > Dhanabalan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. 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Guest guest Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Dear Sagar You have not given your date of birth in the details. Dhanabalan--- On Fri, 8/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: tw853 <tw853 Re: To Mr.H.S.Nagi Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 2:05 AM How is it up side down that the one making such correct predictions is challenging another one, who is asking him to show his way of prediction for the learning purpose of this group, to predict his chart! Seeing is beleiving. Is there is something interseting in the chart to learn KP, some members will try a KP analysis. Otherwise this is not the forum to make predition but to learn KP.@gro ups.com, Sagar S <ssagar86@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Mr.H.S.Nagi> I would like to know about my Venus dasha , will u kindly analise as per kp and give your valuable findings . > Here is my Birth detils.> Name: Sahhasra Saagara> Birth time: 2-45 am. IST.> Birth place : PeriyaPatna.> Latitute : 12 N 20 / Longitude : 76 E 13 >  > please give me the postal adress so i can send some dakshine.> Thanking you > yours faithfully.>  > Sahhasra Saagara> > > --- On Wed, 6/8/08, bkhardeep <bkhardeep@. ..> wrote:> > bkhardeep <bkhardeep@. ..>> Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, 6 August, 2008, 5:41 PM> > > > > > > Sahhasra Saagara.> > UNLESS YOU SUPPLY DATA, YOUR CLAIMS WILL SEEM ONLY SELF BOASTING.> IF YOU HAVE SOME SYSTEM THEN COME IN GROUP AND DISCUSS LOGICALLY HOW > YOU ARRIVE AT CETAIN CONCLUSION, LIKE IN GROUP PRANAV, JAGDISH, > KANAK, TINWIN, AND MANY OTHER HAVE DONE.> > IN KP EVEN A CHILD CAN PREDICT.> > BE HAPPY.> HS NAGI> > @gro ups.com, Sagar S <ssagar86@ .> wrote:> >> > Dear Dhanabalan,> > I have used ashtakavarga system of predictions for predicting > election seats and marks cards.> > 16 elections proved it. four marks card tallied with the same as I > had predicted .> > in fact i am not using other technical points of Ashtakavarga , i > used onle binnashtaka varga.> > yes KSK doubted it how to consoder ashtakavarga either for sign or > for cusp or for bhava.> > Dr.BVR analysed in different aspect and tried how to make use of > it . > > Mostly I had applied it for analysing longivity some time back > which proved accurate . But at present i am not having the details > of the same as native is expired in the said period as i remember ..> >  Based on the Horary chart I had predicted to a lady that she > will met with an heart attack death in the period of Mars and the > same happened.> > For any astrologer his running dasha period is most > iMportant .Even varaha mihira could not foreeseen the boar is living > body or non-living body.> >  > > As per my knowledge and experience our predictions will be based > on vak siddhi and perticular dasha bhukti antara periods.> > if our running dasha period is best then our analysis and > judgement will be right , if we r running adverse period we will > miss some links . SSome events will be hidden by the fate of the > native himself , hence we any great scholar wil not get clue of such > events as it can not be changed by any one even lord Brahma the > creator.> > Sahhasra Saagara.> > > > --- On Wed, 6/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r..dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:> > > > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...>> > Re: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For > transit: western aspect or vedic aspect> > @gro ups.com> > Wednesday, 6 August, 2008, 9:20 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sagar> >  > > You said that you predicted correctly with ashtakavarga. Whereas > Mr.KSK said that ashtakavarga will not give correct prediction. I > think the same is said by Mr.B.V.Raman. > >  > > Most of the computers are calculating the ashtakavarga using > parasara method and Varagamigra method. Even I have tried with > ashtakavarga but could not succeed. Ekadipadya sothana, trikona > sothana, planet pindu and karaka pindu are able to print out > correctly with reliable software.> >  > > Not only myself, most of the astrologers do not know how to use > ashtakavarga for prediction. Some said that it is useful only for > transit analysis.> >  > > It seems that the books available in the market are not explaining > correctly how to use ashtakavarga.> >  > > I have read that even one's life can be calculated accurately with > ashtakavarga.> >   > > Dhanabalan> > > > --- On Tue, 8/5/08, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) .co.in> wrote:> > > > Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > Re: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For > transit: western aspect or vedic aspect> > @gro ups.com> > Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 5:40 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology itself from vedic, hence any method introducing time to > time is nothing but researched and developed with the same 12 > signs,27 constallations, vimshothari dasha periods and 9 planets.> >  > > Parasara school of thoughts is base and foundation of vedic > astrology is only a question and answer between the student Maitreyi > and Master parashara. Later many more scolar researched and > developed it further more.> > Meena stellar astrology, KSK, KB, Khullur . vaikari ramamurthy and > many more ..> >  > > need more search in the field of astrology.> > I had given the marks card , percentage of seats, etc as well as > predicted queka,hurrickanes, early monsoon, floods etc with the help > of ashtakavarga and mundane astrology all of my own researched but > used vedic astrology method ashtakavarga, mundane astrology.> > Sahhasra Saagara.> > > > --- On Tue, 5/8/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com>> > Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic > aspect> > @gro ups.com> > Tuesday, 5 August, 2008, 4:13 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Shri Dhanabalan,> > I'm greatly encouraged by your kind words.....> > Ashutosh> > > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash> >  > > K.P. system is 100% vedic. Mr.KSK developed the K.P. system from > vedic astrology only. If you are through in vedic astrology you > could understand... . My advice is before learning k.p., first learn > vedic. K.P.. is very simple and interesting. It is an advanced stage > of vedic.> >  > > Dhanabalan> > > > --- On Tue, 8/5/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com>> > Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic > aspect> > @gro ups.com> > Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:01 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned Astrologers,> > This discussion though enlightening is extremely confusing for > beginners... .... Is KP Astrology like Western Astrology as it uses > Placidus System and Raphael's Tables ? Then it means we use the > TROPICAL ZODIAC. As we know, VEDIC SYTEM uses SIDEREAL > ZODIAC...... . . The debate between the two has been going on for > ages and unfortunately only ONE system can be right.> > regards,> > Ashutosh> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- -----> > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, tw853 <tw853 > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Use the Vedic aspect in KP like in the KP Readers, keeping in > > mind that the tighter an orb is, the stronger the aspect (or > > conjunction) will be.> > > > 2. Some experimental applications of the Western aspects in the > > original KP 2 volumes are minimised in the KP Readers, perhaps > > because of the problem to reconsile the ouright good or bad > aspects > > depending on the type of aspects in the Western aspects and the KP > > principles of judging whether benefic or malefic planet.> > > > 3. If one wants to use the Western aspects in KP, the articles, > for > > instance in KP & Astrology, of Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi (not K. > > Ganapathi, eldest son of Guruji KSK) are advisable to study. Shri > > Raichur had to coporate the Western aspects in his KP SW long ago > > especially for him.> > > > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R > <r.dhanabalan@ ...> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear members> > >  > > > I) Refer pages xviii, xix and xx of Reader V (Transit) 2004 > > edition.. I reproduce below.> > > "According to Westerners the correct method of judgement is as > > follows:-> > > 1> > > 2> > > 3….> > > 13) The above is followed by westerners and not included in my > > system."> > >  > > > The author explained the western aspect upto para 12 and finally > > in para 13, he gave above statement.> > >  > > > II) Please refer pages 256 and 257 in Reader V. I reproduce.> > >  > > > "Western system amended by K S K.> > > Lords of 1,2.. houses, whenever they, during transit, form > > favourable aspects, offer desirable results…, whenever they form > > evil aspects during transit, the native wins."> > > When Saturn transits in Pisces-Meena- and forms favourable > aspect > > with its radical position…."> > >  > > > It seems contradictory to the first point. The author has first > > told that the western system is not followed in k.p. Later he gave > > examples based on western aspect.> > >  > > > III) Please refer pages 383 to 388 in volume II (1966).  I > > reproduce.> > >  > > > "It would then be said to be transiting in sextile, square, > trine, > > etc., to the radical planet or radical cusp."> > >  > > > The author explained the western aspect and did not tell as > above > > in para I..> > >  > > > My question is which aspect we have to use for transit > prediction > > in k.p.? Western or vedic aspect.> > >  > > > Dhanabalan> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage.. Get it now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://in.messenger ./ invite/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Hi In the past I made predictions proved accuracy of the science.But in 1995 december 31st night 9-35 pm i was attacked by negative thoughts and become literally mad. Since then i am very much disturbed in astrological analysis.Even in kp system through which i had predicted the date of resignation of S.Bangarappa omn 11th November 1992 as i had predicted and I also predicted the victory of Mr.Bill clintonwith the help of Horary astrology. Two KP scholors predicted very bright period for me in Mercury dasha and Mars bhukti but in vain. In that period I was literally mad and i was roaming . something which is hiding in our fate , hence scolors will also will not get clue of the things as it happened with Brigha Maharshi who could not get clue of the drama of Lord Vishnu who plucked the third eye of Brugha Maharshi's leg. I am challenginfg any one because i know the value of this science . as now i am in confussion in conclussion i to need the predictions from others who know well . Any one can veryfy my articles appeared in the KP and Astrology in my farmer name Tejendra Vikaasa. Before 1995 i use to write " wil happen, which can not be ruled out " , now i am using it may happen. Even i will tell me clients now i am not able to give prediction as i was giving inthe past. If any body found the chart be analysed and willing to give prediction I welcome all. In my chart i found the weak point of Saturn.Rt. in the 8th cusp with the 6th lord Moon, Saturn is lord of lagna and 12th in the 8th. No planet inits star hence it indicates benefit to others as well as failure. And I had experienced the poverty in Moon bhukti of Saturn dasha.Literally mad in Mon bhukti in Mercury dasha. I dint get education in the field of Automobile engineering. Though i was selected as play back singer by Late.Kalyanji , i could not become PBS, Mr.shashi Kapoor called for personall disscusssion for the story but in vain , i could not able to visit toBombay due to lack of Fund. As per proffession my moon at venus sign Jupiter star and Saturn sub indicates Mirror manufacture , I have done research and developed "MIRROROLOGY " FOR RECTIFICATION OF VASTU --- On Fri, 8/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: tw853 <tw853 Re: To Mr.H.S.Nagi Date: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 7:35 AM How is it up side down that the one making such correct predictions is challenging another one, who is asking him to show his way of prediction for the learning purpose of this group, to predict his chart! Seeing is beleiving. Is there is something interseting in the chart to learn KP, some members will try a KP analysis. Otherwise this is not the forum to make predition but to learn KP.@gro ups.com, Sagar S <ssagar86@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Mr.H.S.Nagi> I would like to know about my Venus dasha , will u kindly analise as per kp and give your valuable findings . > Here is my Birth detils.> Name: Sahhasra Saagara> Birth time: 2-45 am. IST.> Birth place : PeriyaPatna.> Latitute : 12 N 20 / Longitude : 76 E 13 >  > please give me the postal adress so i can send some dakshine.> Thanking you > yours faithfully.>  > Sahhasra Saagara> > > --- On Wed, 6/8/08, bkhardeep <bkhardeep@. ..> wrote:> > bkhardeep <bkhardeep@. ..>> Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, 6 August, 2008, 5:41 PM> > > > > > > Sahhasra Saagara.> > UNLESS YOU SUPPLY DATA, YOUR CLAIMS WILL SEEM ONLY SELF BOASTING.> IF YOU HAVE SOME SYSTEM THEN COME IN GROUP AND DISCUSS LOGICALLY HOW > YOU ARRIVE AT CETAIN CONCLUSION, LIKE IN GROUP PRANAV, JAGDISH, > KANAK, TINWIN, AND MANY OTHER HAVE DONE.> > IN KP EVEN A CHILD CAN PREDICT.> > BE HAPPY.> HS NAGI> > @gro ups.com, Sagar S <ssagar86@ .> wrote:> >> > Dear Dhanabalan,> > I have used ashtakavarga system of predictions for predicting > election seats and marks cards.> > 16 elections proved it. four marks card tallied with the same as I > had predicted .> > in fact i am not using other technical points of Ashtakavarga , i > used onle binnashtaka varga.> > yes KSK doubted it how to consoder ashtakavarga either for sign or > for cusp or for bhava.> > Dr.BVR analysed in different aspect and tried how to make use of > it . > > Mostly I had applied it for analysing longivity some time back > which proved accurate . But at present i am not having the details > of the same as native is expired in the said period as i remember ..> >  Based on the Horary chart I had predicted to a lady that she > will met with an heart attack death in the period of Mars and the > same happened.> > For any astrologer his running dasha period is most > iMportant .Even varaha mihira could not foreeseen the boar is living > body or non-living body.> >  > > As per my knowledge and experience our predictions will be based > on vak siddhi and perticular dasha bhukti antara periods.> > if our running dasha period is best then our analysis and > judgement will be right , if we r running adverse period we will > miss some links . SSome events will be hidden by the fate of the > native himself , hence we any great scholar wil not get clue of such > events as it can not be changed by any one even lord Brahma the > creator.> > Sahhasra Saagara.> > > > --- On Wed, 6/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:> > > > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...>> > Re: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For > transit: western aspect or vedic aspect> > @gro ups.com> > Wednesday, 6 August, 2008, 9:20 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sagar> >  > > You said that you predicted correctly with ashtakavarga. Whereas > Mr.KSK said that ashtakavarga will not give correct prediction. I > think the same is said by Mr.B.V.Raman. > >  > > Most of the computers are calculating the ashtakavarga using > parasara method and Varagamigra method. Even I have tried with > ashtakavarga but could not succeed. Ekadipadya sothana, trikona > sothana, planet pindu and karaka pindu are able to print out > correctly with reliable software.> >  > > Not only myself, most of the astrologers do not know how to use > ashtakavarga for prediction. Some said that it is useful only for > transit analysis.> >  > > It seems that the books available in the market are not explaining > correctly how to use ashtakavarga.> >  > > I have read that even one's life can be calculated accurately with > ashtakavarga.> >   > > Dhanabalan> > > > --- On Tue, 8/5/08, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) .co.in> wrote:> > > > Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > Re: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For > transit: western aspect or vedic aspect> > @gro ups.com> > Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 5:40 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology itself from vedic, hence any method introducing time to > time is nothing but researched and developed with the same 12 > signs,27 constallations, vimshothari dasha periods and 9 planets.> >  > > Parasara school of thoughts is base and foundation of vedic > astrology is only a question and answer between the student Maitreyi > and Master parashara. Later many more scolar researched and > developed it further more.> > Meena stellar astrology, KSK, KB, Khullur . vaikari ramamurthy and > many more ..> >  > > need more search in the field of astrology.> > I had given the marks card , percentage of seats, etc as well as > predicted queka,hurrickanes, early monsoon, floods etc with the help > of ashtakavarga and mundane astrology all of my own researched but > used vedic astrology method ashtakavarga, mundane astrology.> > Sahhasra Saagara.> > > > --- On Tue, 5/8/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com>> > Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic > aspect> > @gro ups.com> > Tuesday, 5 August, 2008, 4:13 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Shri Dhanabalan,> > I'm greatly encouraged by your kind words.....> > Ashutosh> > > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash> >  > > K.P. system is 100% vedic. Mr.KSK developed the K.P. system from > vedic astrology only. If you are through in vedic astrology you > could understand.. . My advice is before learning k.p., first learn > vedic. K.P. is very simple and interesting. It is an advanced stage > of vedic.> >  > > Dhanabalan> > > > --- On Tue, 8/5/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com>> > Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic > aspect> > @gro ups.com> > Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:01 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned Astrologers,> > This discussion though enlightening is extremely confusing for > beginners... .... Is KP Astrology like Western Astrology as it uses > Placidus System and Raphael's Tables ? Then it means we use the > TROPICAL ZODIAC. As we know, VEDIC SYTEM uses SIDEREAL > ZODIAC...... . . The debate between the two has been going on for > ages and unfortunately only ONE system can be right.> > regards,> > Ashutosh> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- -----> > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, tw853 <tw853 > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Use the Vedic aspect in KP like in the KP Readers, keeping in > > mind that the tighter an orb is, the stronger the aspect (or > > conjunction) will be.> > > > 2. Some experimental applications of the Western aspects in the > > original KP 2 volumes are minimised in the KP Readers, perhaps > > because of the problem to reconsile the ouright good or bad > aspects > > depending on the type of aspects in the Western aspects and the KP > > principles of judging whether benefic or malefic planet.> > > > 3. If one wants to use the Western aspects in KP, the articles, > for > > instance in KP & Astrology, of Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi (not K. > > Ganapathi, eldest son of Guruji KSK) are advisable to study. Shri > > Raichur had to coporate the Western aspects in his KP SW long ago > > especially for him.> > > > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R > <r.dhanabalan@ ...> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear members> > >  > > > I) Refer pages xviii, xix and xx of Reader V (Transit) 2004 > > edition.. I reproduce below.> > > "According to Westerners the correct method of judgement is as > > follows:-> > > 1> > > 2> > > 3….> > > 13) The above is followed by westerners and not included in my > > system."> > >  > > > The author explained the western aspect upto para 12 and finally > > in para 13, he gave above statement.> > >  > > > II) Please refer pages 256 and 257 in Reader V. I reproduce.> > >  > > > "Western system amended by K S K.> > > Lords of 1,2.. houses, whenever they, during transit, form > > favourable aspects, offer desirable results…, whenever they form > > evil aspects during transit, the native wins."> > > When Saturn transits in Pisces-Meena- and forms favourable > aspect > > with its radical position…."> > >  > > > It seems contradictory to the first point. The author has first > > told that the western system is not followed in k.p. Later he gave > > examples based on western aspect.> > >  > > > III) Please refer pages 383 to 388 in volume II (1966).  I > > reproduce.> > >  > > > "It would then be said to be transiting in sextile, square, > trine, > > etc., to the radical planet or radical cusp."> > >  > > > The author explained the western aspect and did not tell as > above > > in para I..> > >  > > > My question is which aspect we have to use for transit > prediction > > in k.p.? Western or vedic aspect.> > >  > > > Dhanabalan> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://in.messenger ./ invite/> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 DOB pl. , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: > > Dear Sagar > > You have not given your date of birth in the details. > > Dhanabalan > > --- On Fri, 8/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > tw853 <tw853 > Re: To Mr.H.S.Nagi > > Friday, August 8, 2008, 2:05 AM How is it up side down that the one making such correct predictions > is challenging another one, who is asking him to show his way of > prediction for the learning purpose of this group, to predict his > chart! Seeing is beleiving. Is there is something interseting in the > chart to learn KP, some members will try a KP analysis. Otherwise > this is not the forum to make predition but to learn KP. > > @gro ups.com, Sagar S <ssagar86@ .> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr.H.S.Nagi > > I would like to know about my Venus dasha , will u kindly analise > as per kp and give your valuable findings . > > Here is my Birth detils. > > Name: Sahhasra Saagara > > Birth time: 2-45 am. IST. > > Birth place : PeriyaPatna. > > Latitute : 12 N 20 / Longitude : 76 E 13 > >  > > please give me the postal adress so i can send some dakshine. > > Thanking you > > yours faithfully. > >  > > Sahhasra Saagara > > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/8/08, bkhardeep <bkhardeep@ ..> wrote: > > > > bkhardeep <bkhardeep@ ..> > > Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For > transit: western aspect or vedic aspect > > @gro ups.com > > Wednesday, 6 August, 2008, 5:41 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sahhasra Saagara. > > > > UNLESS YOU SUPPLY DATA, YOUR CLAIMS WILL SEEM ONLY SELF BOASTING. > > IF YOU HAVE SOME SYSTEM THEN COME IN GROUP AND DISCUSS LOGICALLY > HOW > > YOU ARRIVE AT CETAIN CONCLUSION, LIKE IN GROUP PRANAV, JAGDISH, > > KANAK, TINWIN, AND MANY OTHER HAVE DONE. > > > > IN KP EVEN A CHILD CAN PREDICT. > > > > BE HAPPY. > > HS NAGI > > > > @gro ups.com, Sagar S <ssagar86@ .> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan, > > > I have used ashtakavarga system of predictions for predicting > > election seats and marks cards. > > > 16 elections proved it. four marks card tallied with the same as > I > > had predicted . > > > in fact i am not using other technical points of Ashtakavarga , > i > > used onle binnashtaka varga. > > > yes KSK doubted it how to consoder ashtakavarga either for sign > or > > for cusp or for bhava. > > > Dr.BVR analysed in different aspect and tried how to make use of > > it . > > > Mostly I had applied it for analysing longivity some time back > > which proved accurate . But at present i am not having the details > > of the same as native is expired in the said period as i remember . > > >  Based on the Horary chart I had predicted to a lady that she > > will met with an heart attack death in the period of Mars and the > > same happened. > > > For any astrologer his running dasha period is most > > iMportant .Even varaha mihira could not foreeseen the boar is > living > > body or non-living body. > > >  > > > As per my knowledge and experience our predictions will be based > > on vak siddhi and perticular dasha bhukti antara periods. > > > if our running dasha period is best then our analysis and > > judgement will be right , if we r running adverse period we will > > miss some links . SSome events will be hidden by the fate of the > > native himself , hence we any great scholar wil not get clue of > such > > events as it can not be changed by any one even lord Brahma the > > creator. > > > Sahhasra Saagara. > > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> > > > Re: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . > For > > transit: western aspect or vedic aspect > > > @gro ups.com > > > Wednesday, 6 August, 2008, 9:20 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sagar > > >  > > > You said that you predicted correctly with ashtakavarga. Whereas > > Mr.KSK said that ashtakavarga will not give correct prediction. I > > think the same is said by Mr.B.V.Raman. > > >  > > > Most of the computers are calculating the ashtakavarga using > > parasara method and Varagamigra method. Even I have tried with > > ashtakavarga but could not succeed. Ekadipadya sothana, trikona > > sothana, planet pindu and karaka pindu are able to print out > > correctly with reliable software. > > >  > > > Not only myself, most of the astrologers do not know how to use > > ashtakavarga for prediction. Some said that it is useful only for > > transit analysis. > > >  > > > It seems that the books available in the market are not > explaining > > correctly how to use ashtakavarga. > > >  > > > I have read that even one's life can be calculated accurately > with > > ashtakavarga. > > >   > > > Dhanabalan > > > > > > --- On Tue, 8/5/08, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) .co.in> wrote: > > > > > > Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > Re: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . > For > > transit: western aspect or vedic aspect > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 5:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology itself from vedic, hence any method introducing time > to > > time is nothing but researched and developed with the same 12 > > signs,27 constallations, vimshothari dasha periods and 9 planets. > > >  > > > Parasara school of thoughts is base and foundation of vedic > > astrology is only a question and answer between the student > Maitreyi > > and Master parashara. Later many more scolar researched and > > developed it further more. > > > Meena stellar astrology, KSK, KB, Khullur . vaikari ramamurthy > and > > many more . > > >  > > > need more search in the field of astrology. > > > I had given the marks card , percentage of seats, etc as well as > > predicted queka,hurrickanes, early monsoon, floods etc with the > help > > of ashtakavarga and mundane astrology all of my own researched but > > used vedic astrology method ashtakavarga, mundane astrology. > > > Sahhasra Saagara. > > > > > > --- On Tue, 5/8/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> > > > Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or > vedic > > aspect > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tuesday, 5 August, 2008, 4:13 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Shri Dhanabalan, > > > I'm greatly encouraged by your kind words..... > > > Ashutosh > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash > > >  > > > K.P. system is 100% vedic. Mr.KSK developed the K.P. system from > > vedic astrology only. If you are through in vedic astrology you > > could understand.. . My advice is before learning k.p., first > learn > > vedic. K.P. is very simple and interesting. It is an advanced > stage > > of vedic. > > >  > > > Dhanabalan > > > > > > --- On Tue, 8/5/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> > > > Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or > vedic > > aspect > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:01 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned Astrologers, > > > This discussion though enlightening is extremely confusing for > > beginners... .... Is KP Astrology like Western Astrology as it > uses > > Placidus System and Raphael's Tables ? Then it means we use the > > TROPICAL ZODIAC. As we know, VEDIC SYTEM uses SIDEREAL > > ZODIAC...... . . The debate between the two has been going on for > > ages and unfortunately only ONE system can be right. > > > regards, > > > Ashutosh > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ----- > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Use the Vedic aspect in KP like in the KP Readers, keeping in > > > mind that the tighter an orb is, the stronger the aspect (or > > > conjunction) will be. > > > > > > 2. Some experimental applications of the Western aspects in the > > > original KP 2 volumes are minimised in the KP Readers, perhaps > > > because of the problem to reconsile the ouright good or bad > > aspects > > > depending on the type of aspects in the Western aspects and the > KP > > > principles of judging whether benefic or malefic planet. > > > > > > 3. If one wants to use the Western aspects in KP, the articles, > > for > > > instance in KP & Astrology, of Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi (not K. > > > Ganapathi, eldest son of Guruji KSK) are advisable to study. > Shri > > > Raichur had to coporate the Western aspects in his KP SW long > ago > > > especially for him. > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R > > <r.dhanabalan@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear members > > > >  > > > > I) Refer pages xviii, xix and xx of Reader V (Transit) 2004 > > > edition.. I reproduce below. > > > > " According to Westerners the correct method of judgement is as > > > follows:- > > > > 1 > > > > 2 > > > > 3…. > > > > 13) The above is followed by westerners and not included in my > > > system. " > > > >  > > > > The author explained the western aspect upto para 12 and > finally > > > in para 13, he gave above statement. > > > >  > > > > II) Please refer pages 256 and 257 in Reader V. I reproduce. > > > >  > > > > " Western system amended by K S K. > > > > Lords of 1,2.. houses, whenever they, during transit, form > > > favourable aspects, offer desirable results…, whenever > they form > > > evil aspects during transit, the native wins. " > > > > When Saturn transits in Pisces-Meena- and forms favourable > > aspect > > > with its radical position…. " > > > >  > > > > It seems contradictory to the first point. The author has > first > > > told that the western system is not followed in k.p. Later he > gave > > > examples based on western aspect. > > > >  > > > > III) Please refer pages 383 to 388 in volume II (1966).  I > > > reproduce. > > > >  > > > > " It would then be said to be transiting in sextile, square, > > trine, > > > etc., to the radical planet or radical cusp. " > > > >  > > > > The author explained the western aspect and did not tell as > > above > > > in para I.. > > > >  > > > > My question is which aspect we have to use for transit > > prediction > > > in k.p.? Western or vedic aspect. > > > >  > > > > Dhanabalan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India > > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://in.messenger ./ invite/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Dear shree Dhanabalan I am sorry My birth details Sahhasra Saagara DOB: 7th May 1955 at: Periya patna- 12N20/76E13 at: 2-45 hrs. Thanking you Sahhasra Saagara --- On Sat, 9/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: tw853 <tw853 Re: To Mr.H.S.Nagi Date: Saturday, 9 August, 2008, 3:56 PM DOB pl.@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sagar> > You have not given your date of birth in the details.> > Dhanabalan> > --- On Fri, 8/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> > tw853 <tw853> Re: To Mr.H.S.Nagi> @gro ups.com> Friday, August 8, 2008, 2:05 AM> > > > > > > How is it up side down that the one making such correct predictions > is challenging another one, who is asking him to show his way of > prediction for the learning purpose of this group, to predict his > chart! Seeing is beleiving. Is there is something interseting in the > chart to learn KP, some members will try a KP analysis. Otherwise > this is not the forum to make predition but to learn KP.> > @gro ups.com, Sagar S <ssagar86@ .> wrote:> >> > Dear Mr.H.S.Nagi> > I would like to know about my Venus dasha , will u kindly analise > as per kp and give your valuable findings . > > Here is my Birth detils.> > Name: Sahhasra Saagara> > Birth time: 2-45 am. IST.> > Birth place : PeriyaPatna.> > Latitute : 12 N 20 / Longitude : 76 E 13 > >  > > please give me the postal adress so i can send some dakshine.> > Thanking you > > yours faithfully.> >  > > Sahhasra Saagara> > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/8/08, bkhardeep <bkhardeep@ ..> wrote:> > > > bkhardeep <bkhardeep@ ..>> > Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For > transit: western aspect or vedic aspect> > @gro ups.com> > Wednesday, 6 August, 2008, 5:41 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sahhasra Saagara.> > > > UNLESS YOU SUPPLY DATA, YOUR CLAIMS WILL SEEM ONLY SELF BOASTING.> > IF YOU HAVE SOME SYSTEM THEN COME IN GROUP AND DISCUSS LOGICALLY > HOW > > YOU ARRIVE AT CETAIN CONCLUSION, LIKE IN GROUP PRANAV, JAGDISH, > > KANAK, TINWIN, AND MANY OTHER HAVE DONE.> > > > IN KP EVEN A CHILD CAN PREDICT.> > > > BE HAPPY.> > HS NAGI> > > > @gro ups.com, Sagar S <ssagar86@ .> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Dhanabalan,> > > I have used ashtakavarga system of predictions for predicting > > election seats and marks cards.> > > 16 elections proved it. four marks card tallied with the same as > I > > had predicted .> > > in fact i am not using other technical points of Ashtakavarga , > i > > used onle binnashtaka varga.> > > yes KSK doubted it how to consoder ashtakavarga either for sign > or > > for cusp or for bhava.> > > Dr.BVR analysed in different aspect and tried how to make use of > > it . > > > Mostly I had applied it for analysing longivity some time back > > which proved accurate . But at present i am not having the details > > of the same as native is expired in the said period as i remember .> > >  Based on the Horary chart I had predicted to a lady that she > > will met with an heart attack death in the period of Mars and the > > same happened.> > > For any astrologer his running dasha period is most > > iMportant .Even varaha mihira could not foreeseen the boar is > living > > body or non-living body.> > >  > > > As per my knowledge and experience our predictions will be based > > on vak siddhi and perticular dasha bhukti antara periods.> > > if our running dasha period is best then our analysis and > > judgement will be right , if we r running adverse period we will > > miss some links . SSome events will be hidden by the fate of the > > native himself , hence we any great scholar wil not get clue of > such > > events as it can not be changed by any one even lord Brahma the > > creator.> > > Sahhasra Saagara.> > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...>> > > Re: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . > For > > transit: western aspect or vedic aspect> > > @gro ups.com> > > Wednesday, 6 August, 2008, 9:20 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sagar> > >  > > > You said that you predicted correctly with ashtakavarga. Whereas > > Mr.KSK said that ashtakavarga will not give correct prediction. I > > think the same is said by Mr.B.V.Raman. > > >  > > > Most of the computers are calculating the ashtakavarga using > > parasara method and Varagamigra method. Even I have tried with > > ashtakavarga but could not succeed. Ekadipadya sothana, trikona > > sothana, planet pindu and karaka pindu are able to print out > > correctly with reliable software.> > >  > > > Not only myself, most of the astrologers do not know how to use > > ashtakavarga for prediction. Some said that it is useful only for > > transit analysis.> > >  > > > It seems that the books available in the market are not > explaining > > correctly how to use ashtakavarga.> > >  > > > I have read that even one's life can be calculated accurately > with > > ashtakavarga.> > >   > > > Dhanabalan> > > > > > --- On Tue, 8/5/08, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) .co.in> wrote:> > > > > > Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Re: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . > For > > transit: western aspect or vedic aspect> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 5:40 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology itself from vedic, hence any method introducing time > to > > time is nothing but researched and developed with the same 12 > > signs,27 constallations, vimshothari dasha periods and 9 planets.> > >  > > > Parasara school of thoughts is base and foundation of vedic > > astrology is only a question and answer between the student > Maitreyi > > and Master parashara. Later many more scolar researched and > > developed it further more.> > > Meena stellar astrology, KSK, KB, Khullur . vaikari ramamurthy > and > > many more .> > >  > > > need more search in the field of astrology.> > > I had given the marks card , percentage of seats, etc as well as > > predicted queka,hurrickanes, early monsoon, floods etc with the > help > > of ashtakavarga and mundane astrology all of my own researched but > > used vedic astrology method ashtakavarga, mundane astrology.> > > Sahhasra Saagara.> > > > > > --- On Tue, 5/8/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com>> > > Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or > vedic > > aspect> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, 5 August, 2008, 4:13 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Shri Dhanabalan,> > > I'm greatly encouraged by your kind words.....> > > Ashutosh> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash> > >  > > > K.P. system is 100% vedic. Mr.KSK developed the K.P. system from > > vedic astrology only. If you are through in vedic astrology you > > could understand.. . My advice is before learning k.p., first > learn > > vedic. K.P. is very simple and interesting. It is an advanced > stage > > of vedic.> > >  > > > Dhanabalan> > > > > > --- On Tue, 8/5/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com>> > > Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or > vedic > > aspect> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:01 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned Astrologers,> > > This discussion though enlightening is extremely confusing for > > beginners... .... Is KP Astrology like Western Astrology as it > uses > > Placidus System and Raphael's Tables ? Then it means we use the > > TROPICAL ZODIAC. As we know, VEDIC SYTEM uses SIDEREAL > > ZODIAC...... . . The debate between the two has been going on for > > ages and unfortunately only ONE system can be right.> > > regards,> > > Ashutosh> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- -----> > > > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, tw853 <tw853 > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Use the Vedic aspect in KP like in the KP Readers, keeping in > > > mind that the tighter an orb is, the stronger the aspect (or > > > conjunction) will be.> > > > > > 2. Some experimental applications of the Western aspects in the > > > original KP 2 volumes are minimised in the KP Readers, perhaps > > > because of the problem to reconsile the ouright good or bad > > aspects > > > depending on the type of aspects in the Western aspects and the > KP > > > principles of judging whether benefic or malefic planet.> > > > > > 3. If one wants to use the Western aspects in KP, the articles, > > for > > > instance in KP & Astrology, of Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi (not K. > > > Ganapathi, eldest son of Guruji KSK) are advisable to study. > Shri > > > Raichur had to coporate the Western aspects in his KP SW long > ago > > > especially for him.> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R > > <r.dhanabalan@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear members> > > >  > > > > I) Refer pages xviii, xix and xx of Reader V (Transit) 2004 > > > edition.. I reproduce below.> > > > "According to Westerners the correct method of judgement is as > > > follows:-> > > > 1> > > > 2> > > > 3….> > > > 13) The above is followed by westerners and not included in my > > > system."> > > >  > > > > The author explained the western aspect upto para 12 and > finally > > > in para 13, he gave above statement.> > > >  > > > > II) Please refer pages 256 and 257 in Reader V. I reproduce.> > > >  > > > > "Western system amended by K S K.> > > > Lords of 1,2.. houses, whenever they, during transit, form > > > favourable aspects, offer desirable results…, whenever > they form > > > evil aspects during transit, the native wins."> > > > When Saturn transits in Pisces-Meena- and forms favourable > > aspect > > > with its radical position…."> > > >  > > > > It seems contradictory to the first point. The author has > first > > > told that the western system is not followed in k.p. Later he > gave > > > examples based on western aspect.> > > >  > > > > III) Please refer pages 383 to 388 in volume II (1966).  I > > > reproduce.> > > >  > > > > "It would then be said to be transiting in sextile, square, > > trine, > > > etc., to the radical planet or radical cusp."> > > >  > > > > The author explained the western aspect and did not tell as > > above > > > in para I..> > > >  > > > > My question is which aspect we have to use for transit > > prediction > > > in k.p.? Western or vedic aspect.> > > >  > > > > Dhanabalan> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India > > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://in.messenger ./ invite/> >> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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