Marriage timing from BC

September 4, 2008

Dear sagar sir,

i will follow the aforementioned rule,but sir answer

to next part of my last messege is unanswered and sir

,so taken the Period of Rah-Ven-Sun,how shd we come to

exact date,PL answer all the questions whenever u get

time?

thanks and regards

Asheesh

--- Sagar S <ssagar86 wrote:

> Dear Ashhesh

> 7th CSL indicates matter and DBAS will bestow

> fruite.

> Rahu/Ven/Sun or Rahu/Sun/Sun will bestow marrige of

> Ms. Pooja i feel as per my knowledge.

> Sahhasra Saagara

>

> --- On Tue, 2/9/08, Asheesh <ni_ash1

> wrote:

>

> Asheesh <ni_ash1

> Re: Marriage timing from BC

>

> Tuesday, 2 September, 2008, 12:04 PM

Dear sagar sir,

>

> " Jupiter alone is signifiator of 2,5,11 and Sun is

> in

> > the sub of Jupiter hence Rahu Dasha Sun antara

> will

> > bestow marriage . "

>

> what shd i conclude from above statement,shd it be

> concluded that antara of 7 CSL will give marriage or

> Planet which is in sub of strong significator of

> 2,11

> will give marriage in its antara?

> point is i m not clr why only sun antara is being

> selected to give marriage when all other antaras

> after

> it are also signifying 2 or 7 or 11

>

> now pt is here marriage seems near due to age factor

> ,otherwise if this q would have been asked 15 yrs

> back

> say in MD of mars,how u would have decided the yr of

> marriage,month of marriage,date of marriage,do u

> think

> retrograde ven will not pose any difference ,

> Do u not consider transit of Jup sun and moon to pin

> point the event,if u do consider what shd be their

> positions at the event of marriage,

>

> Pl explain the above

>

> regards

> Asheesh

>

> --- Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

>

> > Dear Asheesh

> > As per ur chart given i am trying to analyse and

> > predict.

> > Venus is significator of 6th is not so good for

> > marrtal matter but Venus inthe sub of Mars lord of

> > 7th,12th inthe 5th cusp.

> > Jupiter alone is signifiator of 2,5,11 and Sun is

> in

> > the sub of Jupiter hence Rahu Dasha Sun antara

> will

> > bestow marriage .

> > Saturn and Moon in the 5th cusp along with Mars

> and

> > Jupiter indicating Punarphoo dosha hence

> engagement

> > date may fixed and postponed.

> > 17th October 2008 to 11th December 2008 or

> Marriage

> > will take place only after 2011 April as Sun

> bhukti

> > will sun to the natal chart.

> > Please check it and try to analyse the marriage

> > matter through Horary chart by taking a Number

> from

> > 1- 249 from Ms.Pooja.

> > All the best at all moments

> > Sahhasra Saagara

> >

> > --- On Mon, 1/9/08, Asheesh <ni_ash1 >

> > wrote:

> >

> > Asheesh <ni_ash1 >

> > Re: Marriage timing from BC

> > @gro ups.com

> > Monday, 1 September, 2008, 2:29 PM

> >

> > Dear Sagar sir and members ,

> >

> > attaching chart of Ms Pooja, casted as per BTR

> done

> > by

> > Swami RCS using astrosage.com,

> >

> > Pl note that time given was 3.00 PM and time Swami

> > rectified is 3.04.12

> >

> > and time rectified by Dr Luther is 3.16.20PM

> >

> > DOB 15.01.1982 Place indore

> >

> > i m also giving brief analysis ,Pl point out all

> > mistakes

> >

> > regards

> > Asheesh

> > --- Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Asheesh

> > > Give me the chart as i had given in S.Bangarappa

> > > resigned , i wil try to predict and explaine how

> > to

> > > predict date of Marrige

> > > Sahhasra saagar

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 31/8/08, Asheesh <ni_ash1 (AT) (DOT)

> com>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > Asheesh <ni_ash1 >

> > > Re: Marriage timing from

> BC

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Sunday, 31 August, 2008, 8:14 PM

> > >

> > > Dear swami,

> > >

> > > i m also looking for a practical example which

> > shows

> > > how to correctly pin point the date and time of

> > > marriage,with the help of significators we are

> > able

> > > to

> > > find possible periods of marriage timings ,still

> > it

> > > is

> > > not that straight forward,in file section there

> is

> > > one

> > > example but it is also a postmortem study and

> even

> > > by

> > > going thru it i m not able to correctly figure

> out

> > > the

> > > date of the marriage for rectified time given by

> u

> > > ,it

> > > is said that jup decides yr of marriage,sun

> month

> > of

> > > marriage and moon the date of marriage,Dr Luther

> > > recently gave marriage month of mar 09 for Mr

> > Kamal

> > > and Mr Pathi date of marriage of some lady in q

> > ,if

> > > these gentlemen share there way of deciphering

> the

> > > code i will be obliged,i dont know 4 step and

> > > advanced

> > > theories ,Pl share using sub thoery,

> > >

> > > in my openion ,when our revered guruji KSK could

> > > predict in advance why can't we, its a matter of

> > > learning the intricacies of a system which makes

> > one

> > > near perfect, if we are failing in predictions

> the

> > > fault is with us only!!!!!

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Asheesh

> > > --- swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > Just a few extracts from messages about

> > astrology

> > > > in this group that show views pole apart.

> > > >

> > > > * Madam, She will get married by 16th June

> 2009

> > to

> > > > the known person very near to family. She is

> > born

>

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September 4, 2008

---

dear dhanabalan,

the events are matching as per 4 step theory

-sunil gondhalekar

In , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

>

> Dear Punit Pandey

>

> I gave my birth details and events. Some have rectified my birth

time. Still the events are not matching with dasa, bhukthi and

antharam for the rectified time. But no one tried to rectify my

birth time according to the events given as per k.p.

>

> Dhanabalan

>

> --- On Mon, 9/1/08, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

>

> Punit Pandey <punitp

> Re: Marriage timing from BC

>

> Monday, September 1, 2008, 3:17 PM

>

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

>

> There is no solution to the problem what you are suggesting. There

is no way you can verify as natal predictions are generally person

to person. Your problem of verification is not limited to KP System

but whole astrology as it is not possible to verify predictions

made in person. Only possible solution in this situation is to try

yourself and see and that is the reason I am pushing you for

publishing your analysis either successful or failed. As an

astrologer, I have see miraculous accuracy of this system and that

is the reason I believe in it like many other astrologers in this

forum, but there is no way my believe can make you believe. You will

have to try yourself. I can not think of any other way to make you

believe, can you think of anything else?

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@

> wrote:

>

Dear Asheesh

>

> " in my openion ,when our revered guruji KSK could predict in

advance why can't we, its a matter of learning the intricacies of a

system which makes one near perfect, if we are failing in

predictions the fault is with us only!!!!!

>

> Who has verified in person that Mr.KSK gave correct predictions in

advance.

> In general we presume that the persons writing books and articles

are good astrologers. The persons writing books and articles need

not be a good astrologer.

> How far the KMS's formula is correct?

> How far the Shanmugam's formula is correct?

> How far Mrs.Sattainathan's formula is correct?

> How far Mr.KSK's son Subramanaiam and Hariharan formula is correct?

> How far Mr.KAR's formula is correct?

> How far cuspal link formula is correct?

>

> All the above have claimed that their predictions are correct and

we are beleiving. But if we apply their formula we are not able to

get the correct predictions.

>

> Dhanabalan

>

> --- On Sun, 8/31/08, Asheesh <ni_ash1 > wrote:

>

> Asheesh <ni_ash1 >

> Re: Marriage timing from BC

>

> @gro ups.com

> Sunday, August 31, 2008, 2:44 PM

>

Dear swami,

>

> i m also looking for a practical example which shows

> how to correctly pin point the date and time of

> marriage,with the help of significators we are able to

> find possible periods of marriage timings ,still it is

> not that straight forward,in file section there is one

> example but it is also a postmortem study and even by

> going thru it i m not able to correctly figure out the

> date of the marriage for rectified time given by u ,it

> is said that jup decides yr of marriage,sun month of

> marriage and moon the date of marriage,Dr Luther

> recently gave marriage month of mar 09 for Mr Kamal

> and Mr Pathi date of marriage of some lady in q ,if

> these gentlemen share there way of deciphering the

> code i will be obliged,i dont know 4 step and advanced

> theories ,Pl share using sub thoery,

>

> in my openion ,when our revered guruji KSK could

> predict in advance why can't we, its a matter of

> learning the intricacies of a system which makes one

> near perfect, if we are failing in predictions the

> fault is with us only!!!!!

>

> regards

> Asheesh

> --- swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> > Dear Sir,

> > Just a few extracts from messages about astrology

> > in this group that show views pole apart.

> >

> > * Madam, She will get married by 16th June 2009 to

> > the known person very near to family. She is born in

> > Shravana Star. A.V.Pathi, 103, Black Tie Lane,

> > Chapel Hill, North Carolina, 27514, USA

> > 001-919-960- 3833 pathiav@

> > * I am sure you will be happy to know the result

> > than means to that end. I am 100% confident when I

> > say that. I have sufficient reasons. I answered

> > your question now!. I am now completing 46 years in

> > this field, Sir (I am now 78+). Yes, the date of

> > marriage is related to the correct data. Send me

> > the invitation!! !

> > Blessings. A.V.Pathi.

> >

> > * I accept that the birth and death are cannot be

> > predicted exactly by the astrologer.

> > Also, the astrologer can not give the exact date for

> > marriage of a person. Can not give the sex of the

> > child to be born. Can not give the exact education,

> > exact job, etc.

> > In my opinion, the astrologers can not predict

> > anything correctly in advance. Every one is trying

> > his level best to give exact prediction. That's all.

> > Dhanabalan

> >

> > Dear friend,

> > Above is a contradicting episode of statements.

> > Situation is if 1. Astrologer can not predict in

> > advance why study astrology at all. Why waste time?

> > 2. If astrologer can predict correctly the date of

> > event or event at first place, there must be a

> > method for doing so. Swearing by experience is no

> > way out to achieve success in astrology.

> >

> > OTHER PARTS OF MESSAGE FOR reference

> >

> > * soniarai27 <soniarai27@ ...> > To:

> > @gro ups.com

> > Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:37:38 AM

> > Daughter's health

> > Dear swami ji Please help me and tell me about her

> > planetary positions and what she should do about

> > it? Tell me few things about her future and when she

> > will get married? Her birth details: Date of

> > birth: 3 March 1981 Time of birth: 14:33 pm

> > Place of birth: London, United Kingdom please

> > reply me urgently. Thanks Sonia

> > * soniarai27 soniarai27 (AT) (DOT) co.uk Subject:

> > Re: Daughter's health

> > @gro ups.com Thursday,

> > August 28, 2008, 9:00 AM Dear swami ji Thanks

> > for your reply, could you please tell me more about

> > her husband's nature and about him. And if possible

> > could you please tell me his initial (what letter

> > his name will start from?) Thanks for all the

> > help. Sonia

> > Tkp Ghopal astrogopalji_ tkp@ To:

> > @gro ups.com

>

> > Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:52:53 PM Subject:

> > Re: Re: Daughter's health

> > Dear AV Pathi To the height of appreciation you

> > have mentioned the date of marriage.

> > If you could kindly explain as to how you arrived at

> > the date, it could be a great favour to the Kp group

> > . Thanks in anticipation. Regards tkp ghopal

> >

> > Can someone share/ demonstrate How to correctly

> > predict marriage from Birth chart using SUB theory?

> >

> > [Please Forget example in books and Magazines they

> > are usually justifications of events that occurred.}

> >

> > OM TAT SAT.

> >

>

September 4, 2008

> now pt is here marriage seems near due to age factor> ,otherwise if this q would have been asked 15 yrs> back> say in MD of mars,how u would have decided the yr of> marriage,month of marriage,date of marriage,do u> think> retrograde ven will not pose any difference ,> Do u not consider transit of Jup sun and moon to pin> point the event,if u do consider what shd be their> positions at the event of marriage,

U have rised to clarify the above points.

I am not familier with Astrosecrets/other perticular formula.

I took KP in 1986 as before i use to analyse the charts as per my own mathod that planet will not give the result where it placed, it wil give the result on which planet star is posited. only in 1986 i got KP and felt very happy to know that Sri.KSK had developed further sub sub lord system of prediction and i started to apply in the same.

First grade: For example Venus lord of 4th and 9th and no planets in the star of Venus considered Venus will be able to give 4th and 9th house result.

If there is any planet in the star of Venus say sun/Moon will give the result of venus that is 4th and 9th house matter.

If there is any other planet in the sub of Venus that planet will give the result of 4th and 9th house matter.

in the case of Ms.Pooja's marriage Jupiter is strong significator of 2, 5, 11 and Sun is in the sub of Jupiter hence i fixed Sun sub in venus bhukti or Sun bhukti will bestow marriage.

retrograde planet causes dely not denial .

only if it is in the other rt star or sub then it may causes deny.

I am not following transit method coincide with dasha bhukti antara.

automatically it will coincide with the matter related.

i use transit method in Horary charts that too Moon transit. if the 11th cusp sub lord is MOON.

i hope i have answered for ur question if there is any point missed u can ask me

Regards

Sahhasra Saagara

--- On Thu, 4/9/08, Asheesh <ni_ash1 wrote:

Asheesh <ni_ash1Re: Marriage timing from BC Date: Thursday, 4 September, 2008, 9:52 AM

Dear sagar sir,i will follow the aforementioned rule,but sir answerto next part of my last messege is unanswered and sir,so taken the Period of Rah-Ven-Sun, how shd we come toexact date,PL answer all the questions whenever u gettime?thanks and regardsAsheesh--- Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> Dear Ashhesh> 7th CSL indicates matter and DBAS will bestow> fruite.> Rahu/Ven/Sun or Rahu/Sun/Sun will bestow marrige of> Ms. Pooja i feel as per my knowledge.> Sahhasra Saagara> > > --- On Tue, 2/9/08, Asheesh <ni_ash1 >> wrote:> > Asheesh <ni_ash1 >> Subject:

Re: Marriage timing from BC> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, 2 September, 2008, 12:04 PM> > > > > > > Dear sagar sir,> > "Jupiter alone is signifiator of 2,5,11 and Sun is> in> > the sub of Jupiter hence Rahu Dasha Sun antara> will> > bestow marriage ."> > what shd i conclude from above statement,shd it be> concluded that antara of 7 CSL will give marriage or> Planet which is in sub of strong significator of> 2,11> will give marriage in its antara?> point is i m not clr why only sun antara is being> selected to give marriage when all other antaras> after> it are also signifying 2 or 7 or 11> > now pt is here marriage seems near due to age factor>

,otherwise if this q would have been asked 15 yrs> back> say in MD of mars,how u would have decided the yr of> marriage,month of marriage,date of marriage,do u> think> retrograde ven will not pose any difference ,> Do u not consider transit of Jup sun and moon to pin> point the event,if u do consider what shd be their> positions at the event of marriage,> > Pl explain the above> > regards> Asheesh> > --- Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > Dear Asheesh> > As per ur chart given i am trying to analyse and> > predict.> > Venus is significator of 6th is not so good for> > marrtal matter but Venus inthe sub of Mars lord of> > 7th,12th inthe 5th cusp.> > Jupiter alone is signifiator of 2,5,11 and Sun is> in> > the sub of Jupiter hence Rahu Dasha Sun

antara> will> > bestow marriage .> > Saturn and Moon in the 5th cusp along with Mars> and> > Jupiter indicating Punarphoo dosha hence> engagement> > date may fixed and postponed.> > 17th October 2008 to 11th December 2008 or> Marriage> > will take place only after 2011 April as Sun> bhukti> > will sun to the natal chart.> > Please check it and try to analyse the marriage> > matter through Horary chart by taking a Number> from> > 1- 249 from Ms.Pooja.> > All the best at all moments> > Sahhasra Saagara> > > > > > --- On Mon, 1/9/08, Asheesh <ni_ash1 >> > wrote:> > > > Asheesh <ni_ash1 >> > Re: Marriage timing from BC> > @gro ups.com>

> Monday, 1 September, 2008, 2:29 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sagar sir and members ,> > > > attaching chart of Ms Pooja, casted as per BTR> done> > by> > Swami RCS using astrosage.com,> > > > Pl note that time given was 3.00 PM and time Swami> > rectified is 3.04.12> > > > and time rectified by Dr Luther is 3.16.20PM> > > > DOB 15.01.1982 Place indore> > > > i m also giving brief analysis ,Pl point out all> > mistakes> > > > regards> > Asheesh> > --- Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > > > Dear Asheesh> > > Give me the chart as i had given in S.Bangarappa> > > resigned , i wil try to predict and explaine how> >

to> > > predict date of Marrige> > > Sahhasra saagar> > > > > > --- On Sun, 31/8/08, Asheesh <ni_ash1 (AT) (DOT) > com>> > > wrote:> > > > > > Asheesh <ni_ash1 >> > > Re: Marriage timing from> BC> > > @gro ups.com> > > Sunday, 31 August, 2008, 8:14 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear swami,> > > > > > i m also looking for a practical example which> > shows> > > how to correctly pin point the date and time of> > > marriage,with the help of significators we are> > able> > > to> > > find possible periods of marriage timings ,still> >

it> > > is> > > not that straight forward,in file section there> is> > > one> > > example but it is also a postmortem study and> even> > > by> > > going thru it i m not able to correctly figure> out> > > the> > > date of the marriage for rectified time given by> u> > > ,it> > > is said that jup decides yr of marriage,sun> month> > of> > > marriage and moon the date of marriage,Dr Luther> > > recently gave marriage month of mar 09 for Mr> > Kamal> > > and Mr Pathi date of marriage of some lady in q> > ,if> > > these gentlemen share there way of deciphering> the> > > code i will be obliged,i dont know 4 step and> > > advanced> > > theories ,Pl share using sub

thoery,> > > > > > in my openion ,when our revered guruji KSK could> > > predict in advance why can't we, its a matter of> > > learning the intricacies of a system which makes> > one> > > near perfect, if we are failing in predictions> the> > > fault is with us only!!!!!> > > > > > regards> > > Asheesh> > > --- swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > Just a few extracts from messages about> > astrology> > > > in this group that show views pole apart.> > > > > > > > * Madam, She will get married by 16th June> 2009> > to> > > > the known person very near to family. She is> > born> === message truncated

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September 4, 2008

Dear Gondhalekar

I said that the events are not matching with k.p.In the 4 step method, there is a chance to get many houses as significators combining all the 4 steps. It may lead to confusion which combination of houses to take and which combination of houses to leave. I have a doubt whether to pin point the events in advance either with 4 step method or with k.p.

All are good in postmortem but most of us fail to give correct prediction in advance. Any astrologer sitting in the roadside also can give 50% correct prediction without much knowledge in astrology.

Can you give atleast 80% correct prediction in advance using 4 step method. If you agree the challenge, I will give you 10 charts with the original birth time. You just tell whether those persons are married or not. If married, when? If not married, when the marriage will be?

Dhanabalan

--- On Thu, 9/4/08, sunilalaka <sunilalaka wrote:

sunilalaka <sunilalaka Re: Marriage timing from BC Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 10:34 AM

--- dear dhanabalan,the events are matching as per 4 step theory-sunil gondhalekarIn @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Punit Pandey> > I gave my birth details and events. Some have rectified my birth time. Still the events are not matching with dasa, bhukthi and antharam for the rectified time. But no one tried to rectify my birth time according to the events given as per k.p. > > Dhanabalan > > --- On Mon, 9/1/08, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:> > Punit Pandey <punitp> Re: Marriage timing from BC> @gro ups.com> Monday, September 1,

2008, 3:17 PM> > > > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan ji,> > There is no solution to the problem what you are suggesting. There is no way you can verify as natal predictions are generally person to person. Your problem of verification is not limited to KP System but whole astrology as it is not possible to verify predictions made in person. Only possible solution in this situation is to try yourself and see and that is the reason I am pushing you for publishing your analysis either successful or failed. As an astrologer, I have see miraculous accuracy of this system and that is the reason I believe in it like many other astrologers in this forum, but there is no way my believe can make you believe. You will have to try yourself. I can not think of any other way to make you believe, can you think of anything else?> >

Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > > > On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asheesh> > > "in my openion ,when our revered guruji KSK could predict in advance why can't we, its a matter of learning the intricacies of a system which makes one near perfect, if we are failing in predictions the fault is with us only!!!!!> > Who has verified in person that Mr.KSK gave correct predictions in advance. > In general we presume that the persons writing books and articles are good astrologers. The persons writing books and articles need not be a good astrologer. > How far the KMS's formula is correct?> How far the Shanmugam's formula is correct?> How far

Mrs.Sattainathan' s formula is correct?> How far Mr.KSK's son Subramanaiam and Hariharan formula is correct?> How far Mr.KAR's formula is correct?> How far cuspal link formula is correct?> > All the above have claimed that their predictions are correct and we are beleiving. But if we apply their formula we are not able to get the correct predictions.> > Dhanabalan> > > > --- On Sun, 8/31/08, Asheesh <ni_ash1 > wrote:> > > Asheesh <ni_ash1 >> Re: Marriage timing from BC > > @gro ups.com> Sunday, August 31, 2008, 2:44 PM> > > > > > > > Dear swami,> > i m also looking for a practical example which shows> how to correctly pin point the date and time

of> marriage,with the help of significators we are able to> find possible periods of marriage timings ,still it is> not that straight forward,in file section there is one> example but it is also a postmortem study and even by> going thru it i m not able to correctly figure out the> date of the marriage for rectified time given by u ,it> is said that jup decides yr of marriage,sun month of> marriage and moon the date of marriage,Dr Luther> recently gave marriage month of mar 09 for Mr Kamal> and Mr Pathi date of marriage of some lady in q ,if> these gentlemen share there way of deciphering the> code i will be obliged,i dont know 4 step and advanced> theories ,Pl share using sub thoery,> > in my openion ,when our revered guruji KSK could> predict in advance why can't we, its a matter of> learning the intricacies of a system which makes

one> near perfect, if we are failing in predictions the> fault is with us only!!!!!> > regards> Asheesh> --- swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:> > > Dear Sir,> > Just a few extracts from messages about astrology> > in this group that show views pole apart.> > > > * Madam, She will get married by 16th June 2009 to> > the known person very near to family. She is born in> > Shravana Star. A.V.Pathi, 103, Black Tie Lane,> > Chapel Hill, North Carolina, 27514, USA> > 001-919-960- 3833 pathiav@ > > * I am sure you will be happy to know the result> > than means to that end. I am 100% confident when I> > say that. I have sufficient reasons. I answered> > your question now!. I am

now completing 46 years in> > this field, Sir (I am now 78+). Yes, the date of> > marriage is related to the correct data. Send me> > the invitation!! ! > > Blessings. A.V.Pathi.> > > > * I accept that the birth and death are cannot be> > predicted exactly by the astrologer. > > Also, the astrologer can not give the exact date for> > marriage of a person. Can not give the sex of the> > child to be born. Can not give the exact education,> > exact job, etc.> > In my opinion, the astrologers can not predict> > anything correctly in advance. Every one is trying> > his level best to give exact prediction. That's all.> > Dhanabalan > > > > > > Dear friend,> > Above is a contradicting episode of statements. > > Situation is

if 1. Astrologer can not predict in> > advance why study astrology at all. Why waste time?> > 2. If astrologer can predict correctly the date of> > event or event at first place, there must be a> > method for doing so. Swearing by experience is no> > way out to achieve success in astrology.> > > > OTHER PARTS OF MESSAGE FOR reference> > > > * soniarai27 <soniarai27@ ...> > To:> > @gro ups.com> > Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:37:38 AM > > Daughter's health> > Dear swami ji Please help me and tell me about her> > planetary positions and what she should do about> > it? Tell me few things about her future and when she> > will get married? Her birth details: Date of> > birth: 3 March 1981 Time of birth: 14:33 pm > > Place of

birth: London, United Kingdom please> > reply me urgently. Thanks Sonia > > * soniarai27 soniarai27 (AT) (DOT) co.uk Subject:> > Re: Daughter's health> > @gro ups.com Thursday,> > August 28, 2008, 9:00 AM Dear swami ji Thanks> > for your reply, could you please tell me more about> > her husband's nature and about him. And if possible> > could you please tell me his initial (what letter> > his name will start from?) Thanks for all the> > help. Sonia> > Tkp Ghopal astrogopalji_ tkp@ To:> > @gro ups.com > > > Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:52:53 PM Subject:> > Re: Re: Daughter's health > > Dear AV Pathi To the height of appreciation you> > have mentioned the date of marriage.> > If you could kindly explain

as to how you arrived at> > the date, it could be a great favour to the Kp group> > . Thanks in anticipation. Regards tkp ghopal> > > > > > Can someone share/ demonstrate How to correctly> > predict marriage from Birth chart using SUB theory?> > > > [Please Forget example in books and Magazines they> > are usually justifications of events that occurred.}> > > > OM TAT SAT.> >>

September 4, 2008

Dear Dhanabala ji,

When you are not ready to analyse any chart in the forum, it is not fair to ask others to do so. This is not a place for challenging others but to learn collaboratively.

Let us learn together.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

Dear Gondhalekar

I said that the events are not matching with k.p.In the 4 step method, there is a chance to get many houses as significators combining all the 4 steps. It may lead to confusion which combination of houses to take and which combination of houses to leave. I have a doubt whether to pin point the events in advance either with 4 step method or with k.p.

All are good in postmortem but most of us fail to give correct prediction in advance. Any astrologer sitting in the roadside also can give 50% correct prediction without much knowledge in astrology.

Can you give atleast 80% correct prediction in advance using 4 step method. If you agree the challenge, I will give you 10 charts with the original birth time. You just tell whether those persons are married or not. If married, when? If not married, when the marriage will be?

Dhanabalan

--- On Thu, 9/4/08, sunilalaka <sunilalaka wrote:

sunilalaka <sunilalaka Re: Marriage timing from BC Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 10:34 AM

--- dear dhanabalan,the events are matching as per 4 step theory-sunil gondhalekar

In @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Punit Pandey>

> I gave my birth details and events. Some have rectified my birth time. Still the events are not matching with dasa, bhukthi and antharam for the rectified time. But no one tried to rectify my birth time according to the events given as per k.p.

> > Dhanabalan > > --- On Mon, 9/1/08, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:> > Punit Pandey <punitp> Re: Marriage timing from BC

> @gro ups.com

> Monday, September 1, 2008, 3:17 PM> > > > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan ji,> > There is no solution to the problem what you are suggesting. There

is no way you can verify as natal predictions are generally person to person. Your problem of verification is not limited to KP System but whole astrology as it is not possible to verify predictions made in person. Only possible solution in this situation is to try

yourself and see and that is the reason I am pushing you for publishing your analysis either successful or failed. As an astrologer, I have see miraculous accuracy of this system and that is the reason I believe in it like many other astrologers in this

forum, but there is no way my believe can make you believe. You will have to try yourself. I can not think of any other way to make you believe, can you think of anything else?> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Punit Pandey> > > > On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:> > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Asheesh> > > " in my openion ,when our revered guruji KSK could predict in advance why can't we, its a matter of learning the intricacies of a

system which makes one near perfect, if we are failing in predictions the fault is with us only!!!!!> > Who has verified in person that Mr.KSK gave correct predictions in advance. > In general we presume that the persons writing books and articles

are good astrologers. The persons writing books and articles need not be a good astrologer. > How far the KMS's formula is correct?> How far the Shanmugam's formula is correct?> How far Mrs.Sattainathan' s formula is correct?

> How far Mr.KSK's son Subramanaiam and Hariharan formula is correct?> How far Mr.KAR's formula is correct?> How far cuspal link formula is correct?> > All the above have claimed that their predictions are correct and

we are beleiving. But if we apply their formula we are not able to get the correct predictions.> > Dhanabalan> > > > --- On Sun, 8/31/08, Asheesh <ni_ash1 > wrote:

> > > Asheesh <ni_ash1 >> Re: Marriage timing from BC > > @gro ups.com

> Sunday, August 31, 2008, 2:44 PM> > > > > > > > Dear swami,> > i m also looking for a practical example which shows> how to correctly pin point the date and time of

> marriage,with the help of significators we are able to> find possible periods of marriage timings ,still it is> not that straight forward,in file section there is one> example but it is also a postmortem study and even by

> going thru it i m not able to correctly figure out the> date of the marriage for rectified time given by u ,it> is said that jup decides yr of marriage,sun month of> marriage and moon the date of marriage,Dr Luther

> recently gave marriage month of mar 09 for Mr Kamal> and Mr Pathi date of marriage of some lady in q ,if> these gentlemen share there way of deciphering the> code i will be obliged,i dont know 4 step and advanced

> theories ,Pl share using sub thoery,> > in my openion ,when our revered guruji KSK could> predict in advance why can't we, its a matter of> learning the intricacies of a system which makes one

> near perfect, if we are failing in predictions the> fault is with us only!!!!!> > regards> Asheesh> --- swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:> > > Dear Sir,

> > Just a few extracts from messages about astrology> > in this group that show views pole apart.> > > > * Madam, She will get married by 16th June 2009 to> > the known person very near to family. She is born in

> > Shravana Star. A.V.Pathi, 103, Black Tie Lane,> > Chapel Hill, North Carolina, 27514, USA> > 001-919-960- 3833 pathiav@ > > * I am sure you will be happy to know the result

> > than means to that end. I am 100% confident when I> > say that. I have sufficient reasons. I answered> > your question now!. I am now completing 46 years in> > this field, Sir (I am now 78+). Yes, the date of

> > marriage is related to the correct data. Send me> > the invitation!! ! > > Blessings. A.V.Pathi.> > > > * I accept that the birth and death are cannot be> > predicted exactly by the astrologer.

> > Also, the astrologer can not give the exact date for> > marriage of a person. Can not give the sex of the> > child to be born. Can not give the exact education,> > exact job, etc.

> > In my opinion, the astrologers can not predict> > anything correctly in advance. Every one is trying> > his level best to give exact prediction. That's all.> > Dhanabalan

> > > > > > Dear friend,> > Above is a contradicting episode of statements. > > Situation is if 1. Astrologer can not predict in> > advance why study astrology at all. Why waste time?

> > 2. If astrologer can predict correctly the date of> > event or event at first place, there must be a> > method for doing so. Swearing by experience is no> > way out to achieve success in astrology.

> > > > OTHER PARTS OF MESSAGE FOR reference> > > > * soniarai27 <soniarai27@ ...> > To:> > @gro ups.com

> > Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:37:38 AM > > Daughter's health> > Dear swami ji Please help me and tell me about her> > planetary positions and what she should do about

> > it? Tell me few things about her future and when she> > will get married? Her birth details: Date of> > birth: 3 March 1981 Time of birth: 14:33 pm > > Place of birth: London, United Kingdom please

> > reply me urgently. Thanks Sonia > > * soniarai27 soniarai27 (AT) (DOT) co.uk Subject:> > Re: Daughter's health> > @gro ups.com Thursday,

> > August 28, 2008, 9:00 AM Dear swami ji Thanks> > for your reply, could you please tell me more about> > her husband's nature and about him. And if possible> > could you please tell me his initial (what letter

> > his name will start from?) Thanks for all the> > help. Sonia> > Tkp Ghopal astrogopalji_ tkp@ To:> > @gro ups.com

> > > Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:52:53 PM Subject:> > Re: Re: Daughter's health > > Dear AV Pathi To the height of appreciation you> > have mentioned the date of marriage.

> > If you could kindly explain as to how you arrived at> > the date, it could be a great favour to the Kp group> > . Thanks in anticipation. Regards tkp ghopal> > > > > > Can someone share/ demonstrate How to correctly

> > predict marriage from Birth chart using SUB theory?> > > > [Please Forget example in books and Magazines they> > are usually justifications of events that occurred.}> >

> > OM TAT SAT.> >>

September 4, 2008

Dear Friends

if i get confused i will stop working for few hours or few days. It will happen in two time, firstly when we r running Moon/mercury conjoined periods or when we r running a dasha / bhukti lord aspected by Mars Hindrence/ delay dew to Saturn/s aspect.

i am having astrosecrets and sublord speaks but i have not go through it. and i am not familiear with 4 step theory.

After 10th September 2008 i will try to take up Dhnabalan's chart/BTR.

sahhasra Saagara--- On Fri, 5/9/08, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Re: Marriage timing from BC Date: Friday, 5 September, 2008, 12:27 AM

Dear Dhanabala ji,

When you are not ready to analyse any chart in the forum, it is not fair to ask others to do so. This is not a place for challenging others but to learn collaboratively.

Let us learn together.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

Dear Gondhalekar

I said that the events are not matching with k.p.In the 4 step method, there is a chance to get many houses as significators combining all the 4 steps. It may lead to confusion which combination of houses to take and which combination of houses to leave. I have a doubt whether to pin point the events in advance either with 4 step method or with k.p.

All are good in postmortem but most of us fail to give correct prediction in advance. Any astrologer sitting in the roadside also can give 50% correct prediction without much knowledge in astrology.

Can you give atleast 80% correct prediction in advance using 4 step method. If you agree the challenge, I will give you 10 charts with the original birth time. You just tell whether those persons are married or not. If married, when? If not married, when the marriage will be?

Dhanabalan

--- On Thu, 9/4/08, sunilalaka <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

sunilalaka <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Marriage timing from BC @gro ups.comThursday, September 4, 2008, 10:34 AM

--- dear dhanabalan,the events are matching as per 4 step theory-sunil gondhalekar

In @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Punit Pandey> > I gave my birth details and events. Some have rectified my birth time. Still the events are not matching with dasa, bhukthi and antharam for the rectified time. But no one tried to rectify my birth time according to the events given as per k.p. > > Dhanabalan > > --- On Mon, 9/1/08, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:> > Punit Pandey <punitp> Re: Marriage timing from BC> @gro ups.com

> Monday, September 1, 2008, 3:17 PM> > > > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan ji,> > There is no solution to the problem what you are suggesting. There is no way you can verify as natal predictions are generally person to person. Your problem of verification is not limited to KP System but whole astrology as it is not possible to verify predictions made in person. Only possible solution in this situation is to try yourself and see and that is the reason I am pushing you for publishing your analysis either successful or failed. As an astrologer, I have see miraculous accuracy of this system and that is the reason I believe in it like many other astrologers in this forum, but there is no way my believe can make you believe. You will have to try yourself. I can not think of any other way to make you

believe, can you think of anything else?> > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > > > On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asheesh> > > "in my openion ,when our revered guruji KSK could predict in advance why can't we, its a matter of learning the intricacies of a system which makes one near perfect, if we are failing in predictions the fault is with us only!!!!!> > Who has verified in person that Mr.KSK gave correct predictions in advance. > In general we presume that the persons writing books and articles are good astrologers. The persons writing books and articles need not be a good

astrologer. > How far the KMS's formula is correct?> How far the Shanmugam's formula is correct?> How far Mrs.Sattainathan' s formula is correct?> How far Mr.KSK's son Subramanaiam and Hariharan formula is correct?> How far Mr.KAR's formula is correct?> How far cuspal link formula is correct?> > All the above have claimed that their predictions are correct and we are beleiving. But if we apply their formula we are not able to get the correct predictions.> > Dhanabalan> > > > --- On Sun, 8/31/08, Asheesh <ni_ash1 > wrote:> > > Asheesh <ni_ash1 >> Re: Marriage timing from BC > > @gro ups.com> Sunday, August 31, 2008, 2:44 PM> >

> > > > > > Dear swami,> > i m also looking for a practical example which shows> how to correctly pin point the date and time of> marriage,with the help of significators we are able to> find possible periods of marriage timings ,still it is> not that straight forward,in file section there is one> example but it is also a postmortem study and even by> going thru it i m not able to correctly figure out the> date of the marriage for rectified time given by u ,it> is said that jup decides yr of marriage,sun month of> marriage and moon the date of marriage,Dr Luther> recently gave marriage month of mar 09 for Mr Kamal> and Mr Pathi date of marriage of some lady in q ,if> these gentlemen share there way of deciphering the> code i will be obliged,i dont know 4 step and advanced> theories ,Pl share using sub

thoery,> > in my openion ,when our revered guruji KSK could> predict in advance why can't we, its a matter of> learning the intricacies of a system which makes one> near perfect, if we are failing in predictions the> fault is with us only!!!!!> > regards> Asheesh> --- swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:> > > Dear Sir,> > Just a few extracts from messages about astrology> > in this group that show views pole apart.> > > > * Madam, She will get married by 16th June 2009 to> > the known person very near to family. She is born in> > Shravana Star. A.V.Pathi, 103, Black Tie Lane,> > Chapel Hill, North Carolina, 27514, USA> > 001-919-960- 3833 pathiav@ > > * I am sure you will be happy to know the

result> > than means to that end. I am 100% confident when I> > say that. I have sufficient reasons. I answered> > your question now!. I am now completing 46 years in> > this field, Sir (I am now 78+). Yes, the date of> > marriage is related to the correct data. Send me> > the invitation!! ! > > Blessings. A.V.Pathi.> > > > * I accept that the birth and death are cannot be> > predicted exactly by the astrologer. > > Also, the astrologer can not give the exact date for> > marriage of a person. Can not give the sex of the> > child to be born. Can not give the exact education,> > exact job, etc.> > In my opinion, the astrologers can not predict> > anything correctly in advance. Every one is trying> > his level best to give exact prediction.

That's all.> > Dhanabalan > > > > > > Dear friend,> > Above is a contradicting episode of statements. > > Situation is if 1. Astrologer can not predict in> > advance why study astrology at all. Why waste time?> > 2. If astrologer can predict correctly the date of> > event or event at first place, there must be a> > method for doing so. Swearing by experience is no> > way out to achieve success in astrology.> > > > OTHER PARTS OF MESSAGE FOR reference> > > > * soniarai27 <soniarai27@ ...> > To:> > @gro ups.com> > Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:37:38 AM > > Daughter's health> > Dear swami ji Please help me and tell me about her> >

planetary positions and what she should do about> > it? Tell me few things about her future and when she> > will get married? Her birth details: Date of> > birth: 3 March 1981 Time of birth: 14:33 pm > > Place of birth: London, United Kingdom please> > reply me urgently. Thanks Sonia > > * soniarai27 soniarai27 (AT) (DOT) co.uk Subject:> > Re: Daughter's health> > @gro ups.com Thursday,> > August 28, 2008, 9:00 AM Dear swami ji Thanks> > for your reply, could you please tell me more about> > her husband's nature and about him. And if possible> > could you please tell me his initial (what letter> > his name will start from?) Thanks for all the> > help. Sonia>

> Tkp Ghopal astrogopalji_ tkp@ To:> > @gro ups.com > > > Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:52:53 PM Subject:> > Re: Re: Daughter's health > > Dear AV Pathi To the height of appreciation you> > have mentioned the date of marriage.> > If you could kindly explain as to how you arrived at> > the date, it could be a great favour to the Kp group> > . Thanks in anticipation. Regards tkp ghopal> > > > > > Can someone share/ demonstrate How to correctly> > predict marriage from Birth chart using SUB theory?> > > > [Please Forget example in books and Magazines they> > are usually justifications of events that occurred.}> > > > OM TAT SAT.>

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September 4, 2008

Dear friends

Why dont we take up the work on Nuclear deal , will it be deal or no deal, wwhen it will get deal, what r the pros and cons of it.

I will try to take up this work on 10th September 2008

Sahhasra Saagara--- On Fri, 5/9/08, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: