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Dear All,

 

A women who is the first wife of a Man presents you a natal chart of her husband only and asks " My husband's 4th wife is causing troubles to me" when will she become friendly to me.

 

what houses to be refered and how to answer.

 

These type of questions come from African continent clients.

 

Awaiting your opinions.

 

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Kp follower.

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Dear Sri Muthuram kumar,

Your query regarding a girl of aged 16 years marrying a person as a second wife to him (first marriage for the girl). Normally marriage is prohibited upto the age of 18 years for girls. (1) We have to see the 7th sublord of her chart for marriage prospects. If it signifies 2/7/11 marriage is assured. If it is Saturn, she will get more aged person than her as her husband. (2) Assuming that her marriage is promised, then her Lagna, which is 7th to her 7th indicating all about her partner should be checked. If the sublord of the Lagna (partner) is Mercury or a planet in the constellation of one occupying a dual sign (and if it is a love affair, then the sub lord of the lagna cusp is also a significator of 5 or 8), then native’s partner would have more than one marriage..(3) Native’s 7th cuspal S/L should not indicate 2nd marriage to her and if it is love affair, then the 7th CSL should signify her 5th and 8th .as stated in (2) above. Subject to above her marriage timing can be during the conjoined period of 2,7,11 Dasa Bhukthi Antharam period as usual.

Astrologially yours,

K.S.V.Ramani

 

 

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muthuram kumar

Monday, September 08, 2008 5:21 PM

complicated realtionships-reg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear All,

 

A women who is the first wife of a Man presents you a natal chart of her husband only and asks " My husband's 4th wife is causing troubles to me" when will she become friendly to me.

 

what houses to be refered and how to answer.

 

These type of questions come from African continent clients.

 

Awaiting your opinions.

 

Thanks and Regards,

Kp follower.

 

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4th wife can become friendly to 1st wife during DBA of jointly

signifying 7 (1 for 1st wife), 5 (11 for 1st wife), only if the

sublord of 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4th wife as

per 3rd for 2nd wife) is a significator of 7, 5. It may be better if

DBA also signifies 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4th

wife as per 3rd for 2nd wife).

 

 

2ND HOUSE OR 9TH HOUSE FOR 2ND MARRIAGE

 

1. SECOND HOUSE FOR SECOND MARRIAGE

(Rationale: 2nd being 8th from 7th signifies death of first spouse or

7th house matters; the houses to refer to " ascertain the time of

marriage, description of partner and the state of married life are the

8th house from the most recent spouse " ; for 2nd marriage 8th-from-7th,

i.e. 2nd house; 3 rd marriage 8th-from-2nd, i.e. 9th house; 4th

marriage 4th house, 5th marriage 11th house, 6th marriage 6th house

etc. )

 

a) Kalidasa: Utara Kalamrita, translated by Dr. D.S. Sastri, 2001,

page 107

b) KP Reader II, 1983 , page 189

c) KP Reader IV, 1984/2002, pages 83, 181 & 184

d) Udaychandra Vaidya: Marriage Plurity, KP & Astrology Year Book,

2002, page 60

e) Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic Astrology, 1998, page 291

f) Sanjay Ruth: Vimsottari & Udu Dasas, 2005 Version, pages 138-44

(Analysis of Elizabeth Taylor's eighth marriages)

g) P.V.R. Narasimha Rao: Lessons in Vedic Astrology, 2005, page 128

h) Barbara Pijan Lama

http://www.bena.com/sherpa1/bpa/bAstrHom.htm

i) O.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002, page 89

 

2. NINTH HOUSE FOR SECOND MARRIAGE

 

a) Kanak (Rationale: 9th being 3rd from 7th indicates second wife as a

younger sister of first one.) (File section under " MMRULES.TXT,

guide lines for predicting more than one marriage "

b) K. Baskaran: Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, 2000, page 149

c) S.P. Khullar: Kalamsa & Cuspal Interlinks Theory, 22004, page 194

(Rationale: 9th being 3rd from 7th is the house of plurality of sexual

relations.)

d) Marion C. March & Joan McEvers: The Only Way to ….Learn about

Relationships, Volume V, Synastry Techniques, pages 85, 100-101

(Rationale: additional information for 7th; younger sister)

e) http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/AngularHouses.htm

f) Robert Wilkinson

http://www.astrostar.com/Marriage-Charts.htm

g)

http://blogs.salon.com/0003573/stories/2005/07/11/marriageChartsHowImportantAreT\

hey.html

h) www.astrodatabank.com/NM/Feedback.asp?ChartID=39832

 

 

 

 

, muthuram kumar <muthuramkmr wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>  

> A women who is the first wife of a Man presents you a natal chart of

her husband only and asks " My husband's 4th wife is causing troubles

to me " when will she become friendly to me.

>  

> what houses to be refered and how to answer.

>  

> These type of questions come from African continent clients.

>  

> Awaiting your opinions.

>  

> Thanks and Regards,

> Kp follower.

>

>

> Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to

http://in.messenger./win/

>

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Dear Ramani,

This is a rare question. One may not get second time in life.I have also never attempted one such. Yes I can give you an example I have predicted correctly. There were 6 brothers and sisters. 4 of then jointly were against their mother regarding land and building affairs. The second one asked me if all 4 shall be together all along or part from each other. My prediction was one of them would be different while the rest three will in agreeable relationship alalong. It happened so of ocourse the circumstances mad him so. It was not his fault. I think the prediction was God' guidance.I don't know whether He is still with me. However will you kindly send the birth data of the husband. I shall try to study and justify the things and let you know my way and God' guidance.

 

With regard.

Dr. Luther

 

Ramani <kadavasalramani Sent: Monday, September 8, 2008 8:59:27 AMRe: complicated realtionships-reg

 



Dear Sri Muthuram kumar,

Your query regarding a girl of aged 16 years marrying a person as a second wife to him (first marriage for the girl). Normally marriage is prohibited upto the age of 18 years for girls. (1) We have to see the 7th sublord of her chart for marriage prospects. If it signifies 2/7/11 marriage is assured. If it is Saturn, she will get more aged person than her as her husband. (2) Assuming that her marriage is promised, then her Lagna, which is 7th to her 7th indicating all about her partner should be checked. If the sublord of the Lagna (partner) is Mercury or a planet in the constellation of one occupying a dual sign (and if it is a love affair, then the sub lord of the lagna cusp is also a significator of 5 or 8), then native’s partner would have more than one marriage..(3) Native’s 7th cuspal S/L should

not indicate 2nd marriage to her and if it is love affair, then the 7th CSL should signify her 5th and 8th .as stated in (2) above. Subject to above her marriage timing can be during the conjoined period of 2,7,11 Dasa Bhukthi Antharam period as usual.

Astrologially yours,

K.S.V.Ramani

 

 

-

muthuram kumar

@gro ups.com

Monday, September 08, 2008 5:21 PM

complicated realtionships- reg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear All,

 

A women who is the first wife of a Man presents you a natal chart of her husband only and asks " My husband's 4th wife is causing troubles to me" when will she become friendly to me..

 

what houses to be refered and how to answer.

 

These type of questions come from African continent clients.

 

Awaiting your opinions.

 

Thanks and Regards,

Kp follower.

 

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Dear sir,

If I remember correctly, 7th hoouse for 1st wife, 9th house for 2nd wife, 11th house for 3rd wife and obviously the Ascendant for the 4th wife are to be considered. The explanation given is that a man usually (not always ofcourse) marries the sister of his wife. So the wives are to be considered as sisters. Death is not the issue here. 2nd house for second marriage is death related. One wife should be dead or divorced and then there arises necessity of the second marriage . This needs clerification.

Dr. Luther

 

tw853 <tw853 Sent: Monday, September 8, 2008 4:40:14 PM Re: complicated realtionships-reg

 

4th wife can become friendly to 1st wife during DBA of jointlysignifying 7 (1 for 1st wife), 5 (11 for 1st wife), only if thesublord of 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4th wife asper 3rd for 2nd wife) is a significator of 7, 5. It may be better ifDBA also signifies 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4thwife as per 3rd for 2nd wife).2ND HOUSE OR 9TH HOUSE FOR 2ND MARRIAGE1. SECOND HOUSE FOR SECOND MARRIAGE(Rationale: 2nd being 8th from 7th signifies death of first spouse or7th house matters; the houses to refer to "ascertain the time ofmarriage, description of partner and the state of married life are the8th house from the most recent spouse"; for 2nd marriage 8th-from-7th,i.e. 2nd house; 3 rd marriage 8th-from-2nd, i.e. 9th house; 4thmarriage 4th house, 5th marriage 11th house, 6th marriage 6th house etc.. )a) Kalidasa: Utara Kalamrita, translated by

Dr. D.S. Sastri, 2001,page 107b) KP Reader II, 1983 , page 189c) KP Reader IV, 1984/2002, pages 83, 181 & 184d) Udaychandra Vaidya: Marriage Plurity, KP & Astrology Year Book,2002, page 60e) Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic Astrology, 1998, page 291f) Sanjay Ruth: Vimsottari & Udu Dasas, 2005 Version, pages 138-44(Analysis of Elizabeth Taylor's eighth marriages)g) P.V.R. Narasimha Rao: Lessons in Vedic Astrology, 2005, page 128h) Barbara Pijan Lama http://www.bena. com/sherpa1/ bpa/bAstrHom. htmi) O.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002, page 89 2. NINTH HOUSE FOR SECOND MARRIAGEa) Kanak (Rationale: 9th being 3rd from 7th indicates second wife as ayounger sister of first one.) (File section under " MMRULES.TXT,guide lines for predicting more than one marriage"b) K. Baskaran:

Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, 2000, page 149c) S.P. Khullar: Kalamsa & Cuspal Interlinks Theory, 22004, page 194(Rationale: 9th being 3rd from 7th is the house of plurality of sexualrelations.)d) Marion C. March & Joan McEvers: The Only Way to ….Learn aboutRelationships, Volume V, Synastry Techniques, pages 85, 100-101 (Rationale: additional information for 7th; younger sister) e) http://www.bobmarks astrologer. com/AngularHouse s.htm f) Robert Wilkinsonhttp://www.astrosta r.com/Marriage- Charts.htmg)http://blogs. salon.com/ 0003573/stories/ 2005/07/11/ marriageChartsHo wImportantAreThe

y.htmlh) www.astrodatabank. com/NM/Feedback. asp?ChartID= 39832@gro ups.com, muthuram kumar <muthuramkmr@ ...> wrote:>> Dear All,> Â > A women who is the first wife of a Man presents you a natal chart ofher husband only and asks " My husband's 4th wife is causing troublesto me" when will she become friendly to me.> Â > what houses to be refered and how to answer.> Â > These type of questions come from African continent clients.> Â > Awaiting your opinions.> Â > Thanks and Regards,> Kp follower.> > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go tohttp://in.messenger ./ win/>

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Dear Dr Luther,

This applies for people having more than one wife at the same time but with social & legal sanction.

Otherwise every 8 th is next relationship.

Please try, this is universally applicable.

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Luther Rath

Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:38 PM

Re: Re: complicated realtionships-reg

 

 

 

 

Dear sir,

If I remember correctly, 7th hoouse for 1st wife, 9th house for 2nd wife, 11th house for 3rd wife and obviously the Ascendant for the 4th wife are to be considered. The explanation given is that a man usually (not always ofcourse) marries the sister of his wife. So the wives are to be considered as sisters. Death is not the issue here. 2nd house for second marriage is death related. One wife should be dead or divorced and then there arises necessity of the second marriage . This needs clerification.

Dr. Luther

 

tw853 <tw853 > Sent: Monday, September 8, 2008 4:40:14 PM Re: complicated realtionships-reg

 

4th wife can become friendly to 1st wife during DBA of jointlysignifying 7 (1 for 1st wife), 5 (11 for 1st wife), only if thesublord of 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4th wife asper 3rd for 2nd wife) is a significator of 7, 5. It may be better ifDBA also signifies 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4thwife as per 3rd for 2nd wife).2ND HOUSE OR 9TH HOUSE FOR 2ND MARRIAGE1. SECOND HOUSE FOR SECOND MARRIAGE(Rationale: 2nd being 8th from 7th signifies death of first spouse or7th house matters; the houses to refer to "ascertain the time ofmarriage, description of partner and the state of married life are the8th house from the most recent spouse"; for 2nd marriage 8th-from-7th,i.e. 2nd house; 3 rd marriage 8th-from-2nd, i.e. 9th house; 4thmarriage 4th house, 5th marriage 11th house, 6th marriage 6th house etc.. )a) Kalidasa: Utara Kalamrita, translated by Dr. D.S. Sastri, 2001,page 107b) KP Reader II, 1983 , page 189c) KP Reader IV, 1984/2002, pages 83, 181 & 184d) Udaychandra Vaidya: Marriage Plurity, KP & Astrology Year Book,2002, page 60e) Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic Astrology, 1998, page 291f) Sanjay Ruth: Vimsottari & Udu Dasas, 2005 Version, pages 138-44(Analysis of Elizabeth Taylor's eighth marriages)g) P.V.R. Narasimha Rao: Lessons in Vedic Astrology, 2005, page 128h) Barbara Pijan Lama http://www.bena. com/sherpa1/ bpa/bAstrHom. htmi) O.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002, page 89 2. NINTH HOUSE FOR SECOND MARRIAGEa) Kanak (Rationale: 9th being 3rd from 7th indicates second wife as ayounger sister of first one.) (File section under " MMRULES.TXT,guide lines for predicting more than one marriage"b) K. Baskaran: Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, 2000, page 149c) S.P. Khullar: Kalamsa & Cuspal Interlinks Theory, 22004, page 194(Rationale: 9th being 3rd from 7th is the house of plurality of sexualrelations.)d) Marion C. March & Joan McEvers: The Only Way to ….Learn aboutRelationships, Volume V, Synastry Techniques, pages 85, 100-101 (Rationale: additional information for 7th; younger sister) e) http://www.bobmarks astrologer. com/AngularHouse s.htm f) Robert Wilkinsonhttp://www.astrosta r.com/Marriage- Charts.htmg)http://blogs. salon.com/ 0003573/stories/ 2005/07/11/ marriageChartsHo wImportantAreThe y.htmlh) www.astrodatabank. com/NM/Feedback. asp?ChartID= 39832@gro ups.com, muthuram kumar <muthuramkmr@ ...> wrote:>> Dear All,> Â > A women who is the first wife of a Man presents you a natal chart ofher husband only and asks " My husband's 4th wife is causing troublesto me" when will she become friendly to me.> Â > what houses to be refered and how to answer.> Â > These type of questions come from African continent clients.> Â > Awaiting your opinions.> Â > Thanks and Regards,> Kp follower.> > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go tohttp://in.messenger ./ win/>

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Rationale: 2nd being 8th from 7th signifies death of first spouse or7th house matters;

, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:>> Dear sir, > If I remember correctly, 7th hoouse for 1st wife, 9th house for 2nd wife, 11th house for 3rd wife and obviously the Ascendant for the 4th wife are to be considered. The explanation given is that a man usually (not always ofcourse) marries the sister of his wife. So the wives are to be considered as sisters. Death is not the issue here. 2nd house for second marriage is death related. One wife should be dead or divorced and then there arises necessity of the second marriage . This needs clerification.> Dr. Luther> > > > tw853 tw853 > Monday, September 8, 2008 4:40:14 PM> Re: complicated realtionships-reg> > > 4th wife can become friendly to 1st wife during DBA of jointly> signifying 7 (1 for 1st wife), 5 (11 for 1st wife), only if the> sublord of 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4th wife as> per 3rd for 2nd wife) is a significator of 7, 5. It may be better if> DBA also signifies 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4th> wife as per 3rd for 2nd wife).> > 2ND HOUSE OR 9TH HOUSE FOR 2ND MARRIAGE> > 1. SECOND HOUSE FOR SECOND MARRIAGE> (Rationale: 2nd being 8th from 7th signifies death of first spouse or> 7th house matters; the houses to refer to "ascertain the time of> marriage, description of partner and the state of married life are the> 8th house from the most recent spouse"; for 2nd marriage 8th-from-7th,> i.e. 2nd house; 3 rd marriage 8th-from-2nd, i.e. 9th house; 4th> marriage 4th house, 5th marriage 11th house, 6th marriage 6th house > etc. )> > a) Kalidasa: Utara Kalamrita, translated by Dr. D.S. Sastri, 2001,> page 107> b) KP Reader II, 1983 , page 189> c) KP Reader IV, 1984/2002, pages 83, 181 & 184> d) Udaychandra Vaidya: Marriage Plurity, KP & Astrology Year Book,> 2002, page 60> e) Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic Astrology, 1998, page 291> f) Sanjay Ruth: Vimsottari & Udu Dasas, 2005 Version, pages 138-44> (Analysis of Elizabeth Taylor's eighth marriages)> g) P.V.R. Narasimha Rao: Lessons in Vedic Astrology, 2005, page 128> h) Barbara Pijan Lama > http://www.bena. com/sherpa1/ bpa/bAstrHom. htm> i) O.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002, page 89 > > 2. NINTH HOUSE FOR SECOND MARRIAGE> > a) Kanak (Rationale: 9th being 3rd from 7th indicates second wife as a> younger sister of first one.) (File section under " MMRULES.TXT,> guide lines for predicting more than one marriage"> b) K. Baskaran: Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, 2000, page 149> c) S.P. Khullar: Kalamsa & Cuspal Interlinks Theory, 22004, page 194> (Rationale: 9th being 3rd from 7th is the house of plurality of sexual> relations.)> d) Marion C. March & Joan McEvers: The Only Way to ….Learn about> Relationships, Volume V, Synastry Techniques, pages 85, 100-101 > (Rationale: additional information for 7th; younger sister) > e) http://www.bobmarks astrologer. com/AngularHouse s.htm > f) Robert Wilkinson> http://www.astrosta r.com/Marriage- Charts.htm> g)> http://blogs. salon.com/ 0003573/stories/ 2005/07/11/ marriageChartsHo wImportantAreThe y.html> h) www.astrodatabank. com/NM/Feedback. asp?ChartID= 39832> > @gro ups.com, muthuram kumar <muthuramkmr@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > Â > > A women who is the first wife of a Man presents you a natal chart of> her husband only and asks " My husband's 4th wife is causing troubles> to me" when will she become friendly to me.> > Â > > what houses to be refered and how to answer.> > Â > > These type of questions come from African continent clients.> > Â > > Awaiting your opinions.> > Â > > Thanks and Regards,> > Kp follower.> > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to> http://in.messenger ./ win/> >>

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Dear Swami,

As per K.P.,the VIIIth indicates,among inheritance,unearned wealth etc.,the sexual act and prowess of a person,in my humble opinion...and therefore,I agree with Shri Luther's opinion...

With kind regards,

L.Y.Rao.

 

swami <swami Sent: Wednesday, 10 September, 2008 7:17:36 AMRe: Re: complicated realtionships-reg

 

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Dr Luther,

This applies for people having more than one wife at the same time but with social & legal sanction.

Otherwise every 8 th is next relationship.

Please try, this is universally applicable.

OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_RCSrivastava AstrologerTeaching & Consultationshttp:\\www.kaalvast u.com] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

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Luther Rath

@gro ups.com

Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:38 PM

Re: Re: complicated realtionships- reg

 

 

 

 

Dear sir,

If I remember correctly, 7th hoouse for 1st wife, 9th house for 2nd wife, 11th house for 3rd wife and obviously the Ascendant for the 4th wife are to be considered. The explanation given is that a man usually (not always ofcourse) marries the sister of his wife. So the wives are to be considered as sisters. Death is not the issue here. 2nd house for second marriage is death related. One wife should be dead or divorced and then there arises necessity of the second marriage . This needs clerification.

Dr. Luther

 

tw853 <tw853 >@gro ups.comMonday, September 8, 2008 4:40:14 PM Re: complicated realtionships- reg

 

4th wife can become friendly to 1st wife during DBA of jointlysignifying 7 (1 for 1st wife), 5 (11 for 1st wife), only if thesublord of 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4th wife asper 3rd for 2nd wife) is a significator of 7, 5. It may be better ifDBA also signifies 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4thwife as per 3rd for 2nd wife).2ND HOUSE OR 9TH HOUSE FOR 2ND MARRIAGE1. SECOND HOUSE FOR SECOND MARRIAGE(Rationale: 2nd being 8th from 7th signifies death of first spouse or7th house matters; the houses to refer to "ascertain the time ofmarriage, description of partner and the state of married life are the8th house from the most recent spouse"; for 2nd marriage 8th-from-7th,i.e. 2nd house; 3 rd marriage 8th-from-2nd, i.e. 9th house; 4thmarriage 4th house, 5th marriage 11th house, 6th marriage 6th house etc.. )a) Kalidasa: Utara Kalamrita, translated by

Dr. D.S. Sastri, 2001,page 107b) KP Reader II, 1983 , page 189c) KP Reader IV, 1984/2002, pages 83, 181 & 184d) Udaychandra Vaidya: Marriage Plurity, KP & Astrology Year Book,2002, page 60e) Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic Astrology, 1998, page 291f) Sanjay Ruth: Vimsottari & Udu Dasas, 2005 Version, pages 138-44(Analysis of Elizabeth Taylor's eighth marriages)g) P.V.R. Narasimha Rao: Lessons in Vedic Astrology, 2005, page 128h) Barbara Pijan Lama http://www.bena. com/sherpa1/ bpa/bAstrHom. htmi) O.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002, page 89 2. NINTH HOUSE FOR SECOND MARRIAGEa) Kanak (Rationale: 9th being 3rd from 7th indicates second wife as ayounger sister of first one.) (File section under " MMRULES.TXT,guide lines for predicting more than one marriage"b) K. Baskaran:

Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, 2000, page 149c) S.P. Khullar: Kalamsa & Cuspal Interlinks Theory, 22004, page 194(Rationale: 9th being 3rd from 7th is the house of plurality of sexualrelations.)d) Marion C. March & Joan McEvers: The Only Way to ….Learn aboutRelationships, Volume V, Synastry Techniques, pages 85, 100-101 (Rationale: additional information for 7th; younger sister) e) http://www.bobmarks astrologer. com/AngularHouse s.htm f) Robert Wilkinsonhttp://www.astrosta r.com/Marriage- Charts.htmg)http://blogs. salon.com/ 0003573/stories/ 2005/07/11/ marriageChartsHo wImportantAreThe

y.htmlh) www.astrodatabank. com/NM/Feedback. asp?ChartID= 39832@gro ups.com, muthuram kumar <muthuramkmr@ ...> wrote:>> Dear All,> Â > A women who is the first wife of a Man presents you a natal chart ofher husband only and asks " My husband's 4th wife is causing troublesto me" when will she become friendly to me.> Â > what houses to be refered and how to answer.> Â > These type of questions come from African continent clients.> Â > Awaiting your opinions.> Â > Thanks and Regards,> Kp follower.> > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go tohttp://in.messenger ./ win/>

 

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|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear sir,

Thanks for sharing opinion with Dr Luther.

1. Now as Shri TW ji quoted

4th wife can become friendly to 1st wife during DBA of jointly signifying 7 (1 for 1st wife), 5 (11 for 1st wife), only if thesublord of 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4th wife as per 3rd for 2nd wife) is a significator of 7, 5. It may be better ifDBA also signifies 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4th wife as per 3rd for 2nd wife).

Humbly , I submit I was talking & expanding application of above rule`integrating because of statement " So the wives are to be considered as sisters. Death is not the issue here. 2nd house for second marriage is death related. [ obviously II nd house is 8 th from VII ]One wife should be dead or divorced and then there arises necessity of the second marriage . This needs clerification"

While expanding if I remember correctly thread started with culture where more than one wife exists at the same time with sanction legal and social both, And astrologer has to examine matters related to one spouse out of many.

on above quote.

If you find time, it will be nice to illustrate your understanding how your thinking applies to case studies encomappsing second caegories of clients.{More than one wife simultaneous.}

Rule quoted by Shri TW ji and Sanjay Rath is Reliable.

This is just a clarification of my short hint, I shared

(Due to change in social values, and serving globally ,Examples are common in both type of cases with practising astrologers.SO any one can easily work out such cases)

Hope content of my mail is clear now.

With regards,

OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCSrivastava AstrologerTeaching & Consultationshttp:\\www.kaalvastu.com] -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."--

 

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Yogesh Rao Lajmi

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:47 PM

Re: Re: complicated realtionships-reg

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Swami,

As per K.P.,the VIIIth indicates,among inheritance,unearned wealth etc.,the sexual act and prowess of a person,in my humble opinion...and therefore,I agree with Shri Luther's opinion...

With kind regards,

L.Y.Rao.

 

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> Sent: Wednesday, 10 September, 2008 7:17:36 AMRe: Re: complicated realtionships-reg

 

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Dr Luther,

This applies for people having more than one wife at the same time but with social & legal sanction.

Otherwise every 8 th is next relationship.

Please try, this is universally applicable.

OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_RCSrivastava AstrologerTeaching & Consultationshttp:\\www.kaalvast u.com] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

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Luther Rath

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Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:38 PM

Re: Re: complicated realtionships- reg

 

 

 

 

Dear sir,

If I remember correctly, 7th hoouse for 1st wife, 9th house for 2nd wife, 11th house for 3rd wife and obviously the Ascendant for the 4th wife are to be considered. The explanation given is that a man usually (not always ofcourse) marries the sister of his wife. So the wives are to be considered as sisters. Death is not the issue here. 2nd house for second marriage is death related. One wife should be dead or divorced and then there arises necessity of the second marriage . This needs clerification.

Dr. Luther

 

tw853 <tw853 >@gro ups.comMonday, September 8, 2008 4:40:14 PM Re: complicated realtionships- reg

 

4th wife can become friendly to 1st wife during DBA of jointlysignifying 7 (1 for 1st wife), 5 (11 for 1st wife), only if thesublord of 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4th wife asper 3rd for 2nd wife) is a significator of 7, 5. It may be better ifDBA also signifies 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4thwife as per 3rd for 2nd wife).2ND HOUSE OR 9TH HOUSE FOR 2ND MARRIAGE1. SECOND HOUSE FOR SECOND MARRIAGE(Rationale: 2nd being 8th from 7th signifies death of first spouse or7th house matters; the houses to refer to "ascertain the time ofmarriage, description of partner and the state of married life are the8th house from the most recent spouse"; for 2nd marriage 8th-from-7th,i.e. 2nd house; 3 rd marriage 8th-from-2nd, i.e. 9th house; 4thmarriage 4th house, 5th marriage 11th house, 6th marriage 6th house etc.. )a) Kalidasa: Utara Kalamrita, translated by Dr. D.S. Sastri, 2001,page 107b) KP Reader II, 1983 , page 189c) KP Reader IV, 1984/2002, pages 83, 181 & 184d) Udaychandra Vaidya: Marriage Plurity, KP & Astrology Year Book,2002, page 60e) Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic Astrology, 1998, page 291f) Sanjay Ruth: Vimsottari & Udu Dasas, 2005 Version, pages 138-44(Analysis of Elizabeth Taylor's eighth marriages)g) P.V.R. Narasimha Rao: Lessons in Vedic Astrology, 2005, page 128h) Barbara Pijan Lama http://www.bena. com/sherpa1/ bpa/bAstrHom. htmi) O.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002, page 89 2. NINTH HOUSE FOR SECOND MARRIAGEa) Kanak (Rationale: 9th being 3rd from 7th indicates second wife as ayounger sister of first one.) (File section under " MMRULES.TXT,guide lines for predicting more than one marriage"b) K. Baskaran: Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, 2000, page 149c) S.P. Khullar: Kalamsa & Cuspal Interlinks Theory, 22004, page 194(Rationale: 9th being 3rd from 7th is the house of plurality of sexualrelations.)d) Marion C. March & Joan McEvers: The Only Way to ….Learn aboutRelationships, Volume V, Synastry Techniques, pages 85, 100-101 (Rationale: additional information for 7th; younger sister) e) http://www.bobmarks astrologer. com/AngularHouse s.htm f) Robert Wilkinsonhttp://www.astrosta r.com/Marriage- Charts.htmg)http://blogs. salon.com/ 0003573/stories/ 2005/07/11/ marriageChartsHo wImportantAreThe y.htmlh) www.astrodatabank. com/NM/Feedback. asp?ChartID= 39832@gro ups.com, muthuram kumar <muthuramkmr@ ...> wrote:>> Dear All,> Â > A women who is the first wife of a Man presents you a natal chart ofher husband only and asks " My husband's 4th wife is causing troublesto me" when will she become friendly to me.> Â > what houses to be refered and how to answer.> Â > These type of questions come from African continent clients.> Â > Awaiting your opinions.> Â > Thanks and Regards,> Kp follower.> > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go tohttp://in.messenger ./ win/>

 

 

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Dear Tin Win Ji,

 

The 2nd house being 8th from 7th house: Does it not signify LIFE for the 7th house matters? The houses 3 and 8 are called the houses of LIFE and the houses 2 and 7 are called the houses of death (maraka houses; being the 12th house from 3 and 8).

 

For example, for business we need to consider houses 2, 7, 10 and 11. Here the 2nd house is a life supporting house in terms of money matters to the primary house of 7.

 

Please enlighten me if I am wrong.

 

Regards

S.Gopalakrishnan --- On Wed, 9/10/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

tw853 <tw853 Re: complicated realtionships-reg Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 6:36 PM

 

 

 

Rationale: 2nd being 8th from 7th signifies death of first spouse or7th house matters;

@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@. ..> wrote:>> Dear sir, > If I remember correctly, 7th hoouse for 1st wife, 9th house for 2nd wife, 11th house for 3rd wife and obviously the Ascendant for the 4th wife are to be considered. The explanation given is that a man usually (not always ofcourse) marries the sister of his wife. So the wives are to be considered as sisters. Death is not the issue here. 2nd house for second marriage is death related. One wife should be dead or divorced and then there arises necessity of the second marriage . This needs clerification.> Dr. Luther> > > > tw853 tw853 @gro ups.com> Monday, September 8, 2008 4:40:14 PM> Re: complicated realtionships- reg> > > 4th wife can become friendly to 1st wife during DBA of

jointly> signifying 7 (1 for 1st wife), 5 (11 for 1st wife), only if the> sublord of 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4th wife as> per 3rd for 2nd wife) is a significator of 7, 5. It may be better if> DBA also signifies 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4th> wife as per 3rd for 2nd wife).> > 2ND HOUSE OR 9TH HOUSE FOR 2ND MARRIAGE> > 1. SECOND HOUSE FOR SECOND MARRIAGE> (Rationale: 2nd being 8th from 7th signifies death of first spouse or> 7th house matters; the houses to refer to "ascertain the time of> marriage, description of partner and the state of married life are the> 8th house from the most recent spouse"; for 2nd marriage 8th-from-7th,> i.e. 2nd house; 3 rd marriage 8th-from-2nd, i.e. 9th house; 4th> marriage 4th house, 5th marriage 11th house, 6th marriage 6th house > etc. )> > a) Kalidasa:

Utara Kalamrita, translated by Dr. D.S. Sastri, 2001,> page 107> b) KP Reader II, 1983 , page 189> c) KP Reader IV, 1984/2002, pages 83, 181 & 184> d) Udaychandra Vaidya: Marriage Plurity, KP & Astrology Year Book,> 2002, page 60> e) Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic Astrology, 1998, page 291> f) Sanjay Ruth: Vimsottari & Udu Dasas, 2005 Version, pages 138-44> (Analysis of Elizabeth Taylor's eighth marriages)> g) P.V.R. Narasimha Rao: Lessons in Vedic Astrology, 2005, page 128> h) Barbara Pijan Lama > http://www.bena. com/sherpa1/ bpa/bAstrHom. htm> i) O.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002, page 89 > > 2. NINTH HOUSE FOR SECOND MARRIAGE> > a) Kanak (Rationale: 9th being 3rd from 7th indicates second wife as a> younger sister of first one.) (File section under " MMRULES.TXT,> guide lines for predicting more than one

marriage"> b) K. Baskaran: Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, 2000, page 149> c) S.P. Khullar: Kalamsa & Cuspal Interlinks Theory, 22004, page 194> (Rationale: 9th being 3rd from 7th is the house of plurality of sexual> relations.)> d) Marion C. March & Joan McEvers: The Only Way to ….Learn about> Relationships, Volume V, Synastry Techniques, pages 85, 100-101 > (Rationale: additional information for 7th; younger sister) > e) http://www.bobmarks astrologer. com/AngularHouse s.htm > f) Robert Wilkinson> http://www.astrosta r.com/Marriage- Charts.htm> g)> http://blogs. salon.com/ 0003573/stories/ 2005/07/11/ marriageChartsHo wImportantAreThe y.html> h) www.astrodatabank. com/NM/Feedback. asp?ChartID= 39832> > @gro ups.com, muthuram kumar <muthuramkmr@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear All,> >

 > > A women who is the first wife of a Man presents you a natal chart of> her husband only and asks " My husband's 4th wife is causing troubles> to me" when will she become friendly to me.> >  > > what houses to be refered and how to answer.> >  > > These type of questions come from African continent clients.> >  > > Awaiting your opinions.> >  > > Thanks and Regards,> > Kp follower.> > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to> http://in.messenger ./ win/> >>

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Dear All,

 

Thank you for all of your opinions. When I come across these questions.

 

I analyse as below.

 

The women has given her husband's natal chart and asked about when will the 4th wife of her husband will be cordial with her.

 

I straightly go the significators of the 5th house and the 11th house of the chart and arrive at the DBA and check the ruling planets and give my prediction.

 

The querient is eager to know when she will be friendly with some one who is not friendly now.

 

In this case it is 4th wife of her husband, what will we do if if it is 6th or 7th ( In their culture I think it happens).

 

The equation is currently, some one unfreindly, possibility to become friendly.

 

Rotation of houses for relationship may mislead beyond some limit.

 

Thanks and Regards,

Kp follower.

--- On Wed, 10/9/08, swami <swami wrote:

swami <swamiRe: Re: complicated realtionships-reg Date: Wednesday, 10 September, 2008, 7:56 PM

 

 



|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear sir,

Thanks for sharing opinion with Dr Luther.

1. Now as Shri TW ji quoted

4th wife can become friendly to 1st wife during DBA of jointly signifying 7 (1 for 1st wife), 5 (11 for 1st wife), only if thesublord of 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4th wife as per 3rd for 2nd wife) is a significator of 7, 5. It may be better ifDBA also signifies 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4th wife as per 3rd for 2nd wife).

Humbly , I submit I was talking & expanding application of above rule`integrating because of statement " So the wives are to be considered as sisters. Death is not the issue here. 2nd house for second marriage is death related. [ obviously II nd house is 8 th from VII ]One wife should be dead or divorced and then there arises necessity of the second marriage . This needs clerification"

While expanding if I remember correctly thread started with culture where more than one wife exists at the same time with sanction legal and social both, And astrologer has to examine matters related to one spouse out of many.

on above quote.

If you find time, it will be nice to illustrate your understanding how your thinking applies to case studies encomappsing second caegories of clients.{More than one wife simultaneous. }

Rule quoted by Shri TW ji and Sanjay Rath is Reliable.

This is just a clarification of my short hint, I shared

(Due to change in social values, and serving globally ,Examples are common in both type of cases with practising astrologers. SO any one can easily work out such cases)

Hope content of my mail is clear now.

With regards,

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Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:47 PM

Re: Re: complicated realtionships- reg

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Swami,

As per K.P.,the VIIIth indicates,among inheritance, unearned wealth etc.,the sexual act and prowess of a person,in my humble opinion...and therefore,I agree with Shri Luther's opinion...

With kind regards,

L.Y.Rao.

 

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>@gro ups.comWednesday, 10 September, 2008 7:17:36 AMRe: Re: complicated realtionships- reg

 

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Dr Luther,

This applies for people having more than one wife at the same time but with social & legal sanction.

Otherwise every 8 th is next relationship.

Please try, this is universally applicable.

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Luther Rath

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Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:38 PM

Re: Re: complicated realtionships- reg

 

 

 

 

Dear sir,

If I remember correctly, 7th hoouse for 1st wife, 9th house for 2nd wife, 11th house for 3rd wife and obviously the Ascendant for the 4th wife are to be considered. The explanation given is that a man usually (not always ofcourse) marries the sister of his wife. So the wives are to be considered as sisters. Death is not the issue here. 2nd house for second marriage is death related. One wife should be dead or divorced and then there arises necessity of the second marriage . This needs clerification.

Dr. Luther

 

tw853 <tw853 >@gro ups.comMonday, September 8, 2008 4:40:14 PM Re: complicated realtionships- reg

 

4th wife can become friendly to 1st wife during DBA of jointlysignifying 7 (1 for 1st wife), 5 (11 for 1st wife), only if thesublord of 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4th wife asper 3rd for 2nd wife) is a significator of 7, 5. It may be better ifDBA also signifies 4th (4th wife as per 8th for 2nd wife) or 1st ( 4thwife as per 3rd for 2nd wife).2ND HOUSE OR 9TH HOUSE FOR 2ND MARRIAGE1. SECOND HOUSE FOR SECOND MARRIAGE(Rationale: 2nd being 8th from 7th signifies death of first spouse or7th house matters; the houses to refer to "ascertain the time ofmarriage, description of partner and the state of married life are the8th house from the most recent spouse"; for 2nd marriage 8th-from-7th,i.e. 2nd house; 3 rd marriage 8th-from-2nd, i.e. 9th house; 4thmarriage 4th house, 5th marriage 11th house, 6th marriage 6th house etc.. )a) Kalidasa: Utara Kalamrita, translated by

Dr. D.S. Sastri, 2001,page 107b) KP Reader II, 1983 , page 189c) KP Reader IV, 1984/2002, pages 83, 181 & 184d) Udaychandra Vaidya: Marriage Plurity, KP & Astrology Year Book,2002, page 60e) Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic Astrology, 1998, page 291f) Sanjay Ruth: Vimsottari & Udu Dasas, 2005 Version, pages 138-44(Analysis of Elizabeth Taylor's eighth marriages)g) P.V.R. Narasimha Rao: Lessons in Vedic Astrology, 2005, page 128h) Barbara Pijan Lama http://www.bena. com/sherpa1/ bpa/bAstrHom. htmi) O.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002, page 89 2. NINTH HOUSE FOR SECOND MARRIAGEa) Kanak (Rationale: 9th being 3rd from 7th indicates second wife as ayounger sister of first one.) (File section under " MMRULES.TXT,guide lines for predicting more than one marriage"b) K. Baskaran:

Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, 2000, page 149c) S.P. Khullar: Kalamsa & Cuspal Interlinks Theory, 22004, page 194(Rationale: 9th being 3rd from 7th is the house of plurality of sexualrelations.)d) Marion C. March & Joan McEvers: The Only Way to ….Learn aboutRelationships, Volume V, Synastry Techniques, pages 85, 100-101 (Rationale: additional information for 7th; younger sister) e) http://www.bobmarks astrologer. com/AngularHouse s.htm f) Robert Wilkinsonhttp://www.astrosta r.com/Marriage- Charts.htmg)http://blogs. salon.com/ 0003573/stories/ 2005/07/11/ marriageChartsHo wImportantAreThe

y.htmlh) www.astrodatabank. com/NM/Feedback. asp?ChartID= 39832@gro ups.com, muthuram kumar <muthuramkmr@ ...> wrote:>> Dear All,> Â > A women who is the first wife of a Man presents you a natal chart ofher husband only and asks " My husband's 4th wife is causing troublesto me" when will she become friendly to me.> Â > what houses to be refered and how to answer.> Â > These type of questions come from African continent clients.> Â > Awaiting your opinions.> Â > Thanks and Regards,> Kp follower.> > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go tohttp://in.messenger ./

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