2-[FairfieldLife] & ffia, from Mark Kincaid...2/23..... Oneness of Vision...

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Dear Friends:

 

Here's a nice dialogue about seeing, oneness.... in all peoples...

 

 

MK

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear ffia:

 

I agree with what you're saying. Thought you might like to hear one thing that Maharishi

told us on my teacher training course. He said, " when you go out in the world, don't act superior, because you will meet people who are more highly evolved then you, and who, don't meditate " .

I always loved that expression because I think it helped me not develop a feeling of superiority just because we have been lucky enough to find tm.

Also, remembering that we're supposed to be moving towards the state where we see, the Self, in all beings, is also important, because until we arrive, there, we should not feel so superior, either. We in fact, should aspire to that wonderful state of oneness, always remembering that everyone we meet is just the Self, in disguise!

 

Jai Guru,

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

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ffia1120 <no_reply >

FairfieldLife

Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:32:44 -0000

FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO works for me

 

 

First of all, I want to apologize for characterizing my foul-mouthed

co-worker as immature. You are right, who knows where this guy would

be if he hadn't started meditating. I do feel sorry for him because

he is obviously in a lot of pain.

 

Whenever I hear people arguing the relative superiority of TMers over

non-TMers I am reminded of a line I read many years ago in the

opening paragraphs of Annie Dillard's book Pilgrim at Tinker Creek --

" Seems like we're just set down here and don't nobody know why. "

These words struck a chord in me because they reminded me of how I

felt before I was fortunate enough to learn TM.

 

The bottom line for me is that we are ALL in this together -- and all

of us, whether we are consciously aware of it or not are looking for

God (or Enlightment or Peace or whatever name you want to give it).

And since we're all on the path, in one way or another, I personally

don't see that any one of us is somehow better than the other.

 

From www.heavenletters.org:

 

God said:

" Everyone you meet, everyone you know, is looking for Me. Everyone

who contacts you is hoping to locate Me through you. They may not

know this, but now you know this. This is across the board. There are

no exceptions.... All Humans who cross your path, or you cross

theirs, regardless of their demeanor, are searching for Me through

you, hoping above hope that you are the one to deliver the key to

their hearts. All Human souls are asking to be delivered to Me or I

delivered to them. All their wandering is their search for Me. Be it

in bar or church, the search is on. "

 

P.S. to Frank3373: George Bush (Sr.) was vice president under Reagan.

Al Gore was Clinton's VP. I did not have to look this up. :-)

 

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FairfieldLife , " frank3373 " <frank3373>

wrote:

> ffia1120:

> Sounds like you have some venom to match. Maybe we should find out

> what you do so we can use that as our one example of why that

> particular program isn't working. No one is claiming that everyone

> going to the Dome is far along spiritually/emotionally, even among

> long-time practicioners. And long-time doesn't mean much if you

> aren't regular with program, haven't been rounding and don't have a

> lifestyle that accelerates TM.

>

> What you've done is provide anecdotal evidence that some people--or

> at least one person--who do TM are still jerks. No news there. In

my

> experience the Dome is over-rated, and there should be no surprise

> that there are people who go there who do not have there shit

> together.

>

> You do make one good point. You can't expect people to practice TM

> and just from that turn out more developed than everyone else. You

> can expect that they will turn out more developed than they

> otherwise would be. So many governors--so many in Fairfield--in my

> observation have started out from such a dysfunctional place.

>

> Fairfield appears to attract more than its share of weirdos and

> dysfunctional people. What success people have been able achieve

> using TM in Washington, DC and in CA I find impressive.

>

>

> FairfieldLife , ffia1120 <no_reply> wrote:

> > As I sit here reading these posts about how the practice of TM

has

> > advanced someone's career way beyond what perhaps someone who

does

> > not meditate could expect, my thoughts are interupted by the

> > profanity-spewing LONG-time governor and former long-time Natural

> Law

> > Party employee a few feet over from me, who is just now (at 4:30

> CST)

> > getting up to leave work early to go to the dome. " Stupid fucking

> > idiots " is how he desribes most of our Forutune 500 clients.

There

> is

> > venom in his voice. Wicked, nasty venom. He has the emotional

> > maturity of an 7 year old and the professionalism of a 3 year

old.

> > Definitely one of those " Uppityness R Us " roos. The only thing he

> is

> > self-confident of is his own self rightousness. I guess I'm just

> > tired of hearing how TM makes you so much better than everybody

> else.

> > In my 50+ year life here on earth I have discovered that it just

> > ain't so.

> >

> >

> > FairfieldLife , Rick Archer <rick@s...>

> wrote:

> > > What I meant was, we all started out as paper boys, caddies,

> > waiters, etc,

> > > and then moved into better things as we matured and learned. I

> > agree that TM

> > > improves learning ability, confidence, etc., so for many, it¹s

> an

> > advantage.

> > > Then again, there are many around Fairfield who seem kind of

out

> of

> > it.

> > > Maybe too much of a good thing.

> > >

> > > on 2/20/04 3:15 PM, frank3373 at frank3373 wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > In my experience, people actually don't make advancements

like

> > this.

> > > > I can look around my office and tell you--based on the

clarity

> and

> > > > power of the thinking, the evident self-confidence, who might

> > become

> > > > a vice-president and who will never have a chance because

that

> > level

> > > > of development simply isn't there. In fact, waiters don't

> leave

> > for

> > > > Corporate incomes years years later, they might promote to

head

> > > > waiter or restaurant manager due to maturation, but they

don't

> > make

> > > > fundamental leaps, usually. I would attribute the development

I

> > > > wrote of entirely to TM. Normal maturation has played a role,

> but

> > > > separately from the advancement of which I wrote. As for

> learning,

> > > > if TM has done nothing else, it has turned me into a rapid

> > learner,

> > > > a huge advantage in business.

> > > >

> > > > I can tell you stories about how crazy the TMO has been, but

> the

> > > > techniques have been just amazing for me. As I say however,

I'm

> > > > somebody who DOES them and the necessary rounding. My

> experience

> > is

> > > > most sidhas talk a much better game than what they actually

> > practice

> > > > day in and out.

 

 

 

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