2 Bettina Komilla Sutton

April 15, 2004

Hi Bettina,

Sorry I have forgotten to give you the title of the book:

It is written by Komilla Sutton and it is called Indian Astrology.

It is described at the following website:

http://www.komilla.com/pages/orderIndianBook.html

Anne

, " hagazussah "

<hagazussa@c...> wrote:

> Hi Bettina,

>

> Yes you are right, it is Rahu, the future node! What about the

> grandbaby? Do you see any grandbaby in my chart???? Wow! My oldest

> son is 3 years old, so he has some years to go before he will be

> able to reproduce himself. How did you see any grandbaby in my

chart

> or did you see it in his chart?

>

> Anne

>

> , " Bettina " <chiria@n...>

> wrote:

> > Dear Anne ...

> >

> > What is the name of this book about the nakshatras?

> >

> > Actually Swati is ruled by Rahu. My Venus is also there (16

> degrees Libra).

> >

> > Good luck with the grandbaby!

> >

> > ... Bettina

> >

> > hagazussah [hagazussa@c...]

> > Wednesday, April 14, 2004 1:01 PM

> >

> > 2 Mark

> >

> > Hi Mark,

> >

> > Thank you for taking a quick look at my vedic chart. I know

now

> that

> > venus and mars have in my vedic chart a better position than

in

> my

> > western chart. I am happy that the gods still have something

good

> > for me in store hehehe. So when venus is in swati, which is

> ruled by

> > Ketu I may presume that my love-fortune is still in the

future :-

> )

> >

> > Okay you asked me before to write down all the 27 vedic

> nakshatras

> > in short. I am considering doing that, but I must warn you

that

> the

> > descriptions in Sutton's book are quite long and have very

> profound

> > information, therefore I would recommend everyone to buy her

> book. I

> > also haven't read that book very thoroughly yet and it is full

of

> > information about the combinations of the different nakshatras

> and

> > how they relate in sexual, spiritual and social behaviour. It

> would

> > take a lot of work to type it all over, but as soon as I have

> read

> > the whole book I will consider in trying to make a list about

the

> > nakshatras, also because it may be a good idea to have a list

> with

> > short characteristics myself.

> >

> > Anne

> >

> > , Mark Kincaid

> > <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> > > Looks pretty good to me...!

> > >

> > > Now, comes the difficult part....

> > >

> > > interpreting these symbolisms.... for yourself...

> > >

> > > In my Jyotish classes I suggest making a list of your

> > qualities, ...and then

> > > as you go through your chart....

> > > try and find the jyotish symbolisms...that seem to fit those

> > qualities....

> > >

> > > also, keep it simple.... most jyotish books are written

pretty

> > poorly...

> > >

> > > good luck...

> > >

> > > Mark

> > >

> > > See below:

> > >

> > > > " hagazussah " <hagazussa@c...>

> > > >

> > > > Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:46:30 -0000

> > > >

> > > > Re: Anne: Arnhem 11-11-1969,

> 19.20

> > GMT +1

> > > >

> > > > Hi Mark,

> > > >

> > > > I have tried to make my own vedic chart on a programme I

> found on

> > > > internet.

> > > >

> > > > Arnhem is long 51 N59 and lat 5e55

> > > >

> > > > So here is my trial:

> > > > Ascendant: 25 degrees Gem 8'13 " Purnavasu

> > > > Sun: 25 degrees Lib 45'33 " Vishaka

> > > > Moon: 20 degrees Sco 16'17 " Jyestha

> > > > Mars: 11 degrees Cap 36'30 " Shravana

> > > > Mercury: 23 degrees Lib 3'25 " Vishaka

> > > > Jupiter: 29 degrees Vir 29'28 " Chitra

> > > > Venus: 7 degrees Lib 54'28 " Swati

> > > > Saturn: 10 degrees Ari 56'26 " Ashwini

> > > > Rahu: 24 degrees Aqu 30'27 " Purva Bhadra

> > > > Ketu: 24 degrees Leo 30'27 " Purva Palguni

> > > > Uranius: 13 degrees Vir 38'48 " Hasta

> > > > Neptune: 4 degrees Sco 39'52 " Anuradha

> > > > Pluto: 3 degrees Vir 18'44 " Uttara Phalguni

> > > >

> > > >> But, I still don't understand is that the place of birth

> above?

> > > >> arnhem? and GMT....mountain time?

> > > >

> > > > GMT is the time of Greenwich England, and in the

netherlands

> we

> > are

> > > > one hour later, that is why I mentioned it. GMT is used

> often in

> > > > western astrology.

> > > >

> > > >> let me know what your jyotish rising sign, too.

> > > >

> > > > Purnavasu.

> > > >

> > > >> Exalted Mars! ....and Great...Venus...in Libra!

> > > >>

> > > >> Wow...2 of the most important inter-relationship planets,

> > > >> strong...very good!

> > > >

> > > > But in western astrology mars and venus have a square

> conflict.

> > That

> > > > means troublesome relationships, and they are both also

> > afflicted by

> > > > saturn, so scarce but difficult and painfull relationships

> for

> > me.

> > > > That was in fact the matter in my life :-((( But yeah you

> can't

> > have

> > > > it all. My lazy venus is fed up with relationships now, so

I

> will

> > > > stay single I guess. Tired of difficult relationships,

having

> > also

> > > > capricorn in my seventh house, means it is ok to stay

alone.

> > > >

> > > > But.. what positive do you see about love in my Jyotish

> chart?

> > >

> > > The strongest, best or most benefic parts of your chart..

> > >

> > > are:

> > >

> > > #1...your exalted Mars...

> > >

> > > #2...your very good Venus... and in Jyotish they don't

aspect

> each

> > other at

> > > all!

> > >

> > > go figure!

> > >

> > > #3....And your jupiter is fairly good, being the lord of

10th,

> in

> > the

> > > 4th,....any planet that's in the

> > > opposite to it's Own Sign...represents....a

stronger....planet,

> > then

> > > otherwise!

> > >

> > > hope this helps....

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > Anne

> > > >

> > > >>

> > > >> In your Jyotish chart, your nodes don't influence your

> Moon, at

> > > > all!

> > > >>

> > > >> You say below:

> > > >>

> > > >> I am trying to deal with my emotions that

> > > >>>>> block me from my development in work and carreer

> > > >>

> > > >> Can you be more specific, and tell me what this means...?

> > > >>

> > > >> I find the more that I can get people to describe what

> they're

> > > >> experiencing, and especially want to improve about

> > > >> themselves...

> > > >>

> > > >> then, we can hear and see what Planets are responsible for

> > > >> that...

> > > >>

> > > >> take care

> > > >>

> > > >> In , " hagazussah "

> > > >> <hagazussa@c...> wrote:

> > > >>> Hi Mark,

> > > >>>

> > > >>> I did post my dates, but I put them in the header so you

> won't

> > > >> miss

> > > >>> it among the overwhelming amount of posts LOL!!!

> > > >>> Yes, please do my chart whenever you feel like! Hoping

you

> > > >> won't

> > > >>> find horrifying details :-)

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Anne

> > > >>>

> > > >>> , Mark Kincaid

> > > >>> <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> > > >>>> Dear Anne:

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> Did you ever send me your date of birth info, so I can

> reflect

> > > >> on

> > > >>> your

> > > >>>> Jyotish for you as we go along like this?

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> I have found it extremely helpful to know both

> systems...and

> > > >> I've

> > > >>> found

> > > >>>> Jyotish is more accurate in certain ways, and Western is

> > > >> more

> > > >>> accurate, in

> > > >>>> other ways...

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> I'm in the middle of writing an article, for

publication,

> > > >>> regarding the

> > > >>>> basic similiarities and important differences between

the

> 2

> > > >>> systems...

> > > >>>> and will mail it to our group here, soon.

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> But, if you'll send me your date of birth info, I'll do

> your

> > > >>> Jyotish chart,

> > > >>>> and we can explore both of your charts, as well.

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> Sincerely,

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> Mark Kincaid

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>>> " hagazussah " <hagazussa@c...>

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> Wed, 07 Apr 2004 07:46:25 -0000

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> Books about Rahu and Ketu

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> Dear Mark and all,

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>>> Cool, ...well, rahu can be a very successful..planet

> > > >> especially

> > > >>> for

> > > >>>>>> outer achievements...

> > > >>>>>> but...because rahu's also there to teach us...

> > > >>>>>> about balance...

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> This is very important for me to find my balance. I

know

> > > > that

> > > >> in

> > > >>> my

> > > >>>>> western chart my moon (13 degrees sagitarius in 6) is

> > > >> square to

> > > >>> my

> > > >>>>> north node (rahu) of 17 degrees pisces in 10. Now I

have

> > > >> only

> > > >>> read a

> > > >>>>> book about north nodes from Martin Shulman, but that

> > > >> wasn't very

> > > >>>>> satisfying, because it is still very vague for me to

> grasp

> > > > how

> > > >> to

> > > >>>>> deal with that square. I am trying to deal with my

> emotions

> > > >> that

> > > >>>>> block me from my development in work and carreer, so is

> > > >> there

> > > >>> anyone

> > > >>>>> who can recommend another/better book than Shulman's

> > > >> about the

> > > >>> nodes?

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> Anne

> > > >>>>>

April 15, 2004

Anne ...

Thanks. I clicked on the url you gave and I think I have seen that book. It's a good one. Do you have Light on Life by Defouw and Svaboda? It's very comprehensive. I'd recommend it to anyone interested in Jyotish/Vedic.

.... Bettina

hagazussah [hagazussa]Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:04 PM Subject: Re: 2 Bettina Komilla SuttonHi Bettina, Sorry I have forgotten to give you the title of the book:It is written by Komilla Sutton and it is called Indian Astrology. It is described at the following website:http://www.komilla.com/pages/orderIndianBook.htmlAnne--- In , "hagazussah" <hagazussa@c...> wrote:> Hi Bettina,> > Yes you are right, it is Rahu, the future node! What about the > grandbaby? Do you see any grandbaby in my chart???? Wow! My oldest > son is 3 years old, so he has some years to go before he will be > able to reproduce himself. How did you see any grandbaby in my chart > or did you see it in his chart?> > Anne> > > , "Bettina" <chiria@n...> > wrote:> > Dear Anne ...> > > > > > What is the name of this book about the nakshatras?> > > > Actually Swati is ruled by Rahu. My Venus is also there (16 > degrees Libra).> > > > Good luck with the grandbaby!> > > > > > ... Bettina> > > > > > > > > > hagazussah [hagazussa@c...]> > Wednesday, April 14, 2004 1:01 PM> > > > 2 Mark> > > > > > Hi Mark,> > > > Thank you for taking a quick look at my vedic chart. I know now > that> > venus and mars have in my vedic chart a better position than in > my> > western chart. I am happy that the gods still have something good> > for me in store hehehe. So when venus is in swati, which is > ruled by> > Ketu I may presume that my love-fortune is still in the future :-> )> > > > Okay you asked me before to write down all the 27 vedic > nakshatras> > in short. I am considering doing that, but I must warn you that > the> > descriptions in Sutton's book are quite long and have very > profound> > information, therefore I would recommend everyone to buy her > book. I> > also haven't read that book very thoroughly yet and it is full of> > information about the combinations of the different nakshatras > and> > how they relate in sexual, spiritual and social behaviour. It > would> > take a lot of work to type it all over, but as soon as I have > read> > the whole book I will consider in trying to make a list about the> > nakshatras, also because it may be a good idea to have a list > with> > short characteristics myself.> > > > Anne> > > > , Mark Kincaid> > <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:> > > Looks pretty good to me...!> > >> > > Now, comes the difficult part....> > >> > > interpreting these symbolisms.... for yourself...> > >> > > In my Jyotish classes I suggest making a list of your> > qualities, ...and then> > > as you go through your chart....> > > try and find the jyotish symbolisms...that seem to fit those> > qualities....> > >> > > also, keep it simple.... most jyotish books are written pretty> > poorly...> > >> > > good luck...> > >> > >> > > Mark> > >> > >> > > See below:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > "hagazussah" <hagazussa@c...>> > > > > > > > Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:46:30 -0000> > > > > > > > Re: Anne: Arnhem 11-11-1969, > 19.20> > GMT +1> > > >> > > > Hi Mark,> > > >> > > > I have tried to make my own vedic chart on a programme I > found on> > > > internet.> > > >> > > > Arnhem is long 51 N59 and lat 5e55> > > >> > > > So here is my trial:> > > > Ascendant: 25 degrees Gem 8'13" Purnavasu> > > > Sun: 25 degrees Lib 45'33" Vishaka> > > > Moon: 20 degrees Sco 16'17" Jyestha> > > > Mars: 11 degrees Cap 36'30" Shravana> > > > Mercury: 23 degrees Lib 3'25" Vishaka> > > > Jupiter: 29 degrees Vir 29'28" Chitra> > > > Venus: 7 degrees Lib 54'28" Swati> > > > Saturn: 10 degrees Ari 56'26" Ashwini> > > > Rahu: 24 degrees Aqu 30'27" Purva Bhadra> > > > Ketu: 24 degrees Leo 30'27" Purva Palguni> > > > Uranius: 13 degrees Vir 38'48" Hasta> > > > Neptune: 4 degrees Sco 39'52" Anuradha> > > > Pluto: 3 degrees Vir 18'44" Uttara Phalguni> > > >> > > >> But, I still don't understand is that the place of birth > above?> > > >> arnhem? and GMT....mountain time?> > > >> > > > GMT is the time of Greenwich England, and in the netherlands > we> > are> > > > one hour later, that is why I mentioned it. GMT is used > often in> > > > western astrology.> > > >> > > >> let me know what your jyotish rising sign, too.> > > >> > > > Purnavasu.> > > >> > > >> Exalted Mars! ....and Great...Venus...in Libra!> > > >>> > > >> Wow...2 of the most important inter-relationship planets,> > > >> strong...very good!> > > >> > > > But in western astrology mars and venus have a square > conflict.> > That> > > > means troublesome relationships, and they are both also> > afflicted by> > > > saturn, so scarce but difficult and painfull relationships > for> > me.> > > > That was in fact the matter in my life :-((( But yeah you > can't> > have> > > > it all. My lazy venus is fed up with relationships now, so I > will> > > > stay single I guess. Tired of difficult relationships, having> > also> > > > capricorn in my seventh house, means it is ok to stay alone.> > > >> > > > But.. what positive do you see about love in my Jyotish > chart?> > >> > > The strongest, best or most benefic parts of your chart..> > >> > > are:> > >> > > #1...your exalted Mars...> > >> > > #2...your very good Venus... and in Jyotish they don't aspect > each> > other at> > > all!> > >> > > go figure!> > >> > > #3....And your jupiter is fairly good, being the lord of 10th, > in> > the> > > 4th,....any planet that's in the> > > opposite to it's Own Sign...represents....a stronger....planet,> > then> > > otherwise!> > >> > >> > > hope this helps....> > > > Thanks,> > > >> > > > Anne> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >> In your Jyotish chart, your nodes don't influence your > Moon, at> > > > all!> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> You say below:> > > >>> > > >> I am trying to deal with my emotions that> > > >>>>> block me from my development in work and carreer> > > >>> > > >> Can you be more specific, and tell me what this means...?> > > >>> > > >> I find the more that I can get people to describe what > they're> > > >> experiencing, and especially want to improve about> > > >> themselves...> > > >>> > > >> then, we can hear and see what Planets are responsible for> > > >> that...> > > >>> > > >> take care> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> In , "hagazussah"> > > >> <hagazussa@c...> wrote:> > > >>> Hi Mark,> > > >>>> > > >>> I did post my dates, but I put them in the header so you > won't> > > >> miss> > > >>> it among the overwhelming amount of posts LOL!!!> > > >>> Yes, please do my chart whenever you feel like! Hoping you> > > >> won't> > > >>> find horrifying details :-)> > > >>>> > > >>> Anne> > > >>>> > > >>> , Mark Kincaid> > > >>> <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:> > > >>>> Dear Anne:> > > >>>>> > > >>>> Did you ever send me your date of birth info, so I can > reflect> > > >> on> > > >>> your> > > >>>> Jyotish for you as we go along like this?> > > >>>>> > > >>>> I have found it extremely helpful to know both > systems...and> > > >> I've> > > >>> found> > > >>>> Jyotish is more accurate in certain ways, and Western is> > > >> more> > > >>> accurate, in> > > >>>> other ways...> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> I'm in the middle of writing an article, for publication,> > > >>> regarding the> > > >>>> basic similiarities and important differences between the > 2> > > >>> systems...> > > >>>> and will mail it to our group here, soon.> > > >>>>> > > >>>> But, if you'll send me your date of birth info, I'll do > your> > > >>> Jyotish chart,> > > >>>> and we can explore both of your charts, as well.> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> Sincerely,> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> Mark Kincaid> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> "hagazussah" <hagazussa@c...>> > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Wed, 07 Apr 2004 07:46:25 -0000> > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Books about Rahu and Ketu> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> Dear Mark and all,> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Cool, ...well, rahu can be a very successful..planet> > > >> especially> > > >>> for> > > >>>>>> outer achievements...> > > >>>>>> but...because rahu's also there to teach us...> > > >>>>>> about balance...> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> This is very important for me to find my balance. I know> > > > that> > > >> in> > > >>> my> > > >>>>> western chart my moon (13 degrees sagitarius in 6) is> > > >> square to> > > >>> my> > > >>>>> north node (rahu) of 17 degrees pisces in 10. Now I have> > > >> only> > > >>> read a> > > >>>>> book about north nodes from Martin Shulman, but that> > > >> wasn't very> > > >>>>> satisfying, because it is still very vague for me to > grasp> > > > how> > > >> to> > > >>>>> deal with that square. I am trying to deal with my > emotions> > > >> that> > > >>>>> block me from my development in work and carreer, so is> > > >> there> > > >>> anyone> > > >>>>> who can recommend another/better book than Shulman's> > > >> about the> > > >>> nodes?> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> Anne> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>

April 16, 2004

Hi Bettina,

> Do you have Light on Life by Defouw and Svaboda? It's

> very comprehensive. I'd recommend it to anyone interested in

>Jyotish/Vedic

no I haven't read that yet. I browsed for it on the internet after i

have read your message. This book is more about the veda, isn't it?

More about health matters in astrology?

I have just received the book about the moon nodes yesterday. I

think it is very fascinating, it explains also a lot of terms that

are still used in western astrology, but where western astrology

miss the point. I first want to read that and learn the nakshathras

by heart, so that first things come first.. But I will keep your

book in mind and buy it as soon as I have done my first Jyotish

class, that I will try to to in a few months after I have moved

house this summer:-) Depends on how much money I have.

Anne

April 16, 2004

On 16/4/04 7:27 am, " hagazussah " <hagazussa wrote:

>

>> Do you have Light on Life by Defouw and Svaboda? It's

>> very comprehensive. I'd recommend it to anyone interested in

>> Jyotish/Vedic

>

> no I haven't read that yet. I browsed for it on the internet after i

> have read your message. This book is more about the veda, isn't it?

> More about health matters in astrology?

Anne, No no no! the book is a very comprehensive breakdown of Vedic

astrology, but it has a blissful aura because they learned in India and draw

very closely from the source. It's termed and advanced book by many people,

but it was the first one I read and I found it very clear. It whetted my

appetite for more.

April 16, 2004

Hi, Anne ...

L on L covers just about everything. You could maybe even get a used paperback on Amazon.

What is the name of the Moon's Nodes book?

.... Bettina

hagazussah [hagazussa]Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:28 PM Subject: Re: 2 Bettina Komilla SuttonHi Bettina,> Do you have Light on Life by Defouw and Svaboda? It's> very comprehensive. I'd recommend it to anyone interested in >Jyotish/Vedicno I haven't read that yet. I browsed for it on the internet after i have read your message. This book is more about the veda, isn't it? More about health matters in astrology?I have just received the book about the moon nodes yesterday. I think it is very fascinating, it explains also a lot of terms that are still used in western astrology, but where western astrology miss the point. I first want to read that and learn the nakshathras by heart, so that first things come first.. But I will keep your book in mind and buy it as soon as I have done my first Jyotish class, that I will try to to in a few months after I have moved house this summer:-) Depends on how much money I have.Anne