Saturn, Marriage and Relationship

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

 

Since we're kind of on this tack, I thought to throw this at ya.

 

We've all read and heard about Saturn's role in terms of overall

maturation. But I think what we don't consider nearly enough is this

ringed planet's role in relationships and marriage.

 

Classically, Saturn is exalted in Libra - Venus' sign. There is a

link

established between these two unlikely planets.

 

If one takes the time to study the history and purpose of marriage,

particularly in the Western context, one can easily see the

connections

between this institution's development and Saturn's Western

classical

exaltation.

 

We all know that any contact between Venus and Saturn tends to

suggest a

" toning down " a " chilling " of the emotions. A delay, strategic,

emotional, or otherwise, can occur in terms of the " blooming " of

Venusian dimensions. Looked at in the way we are daling with here,

it

can suggest a slow, steady building of relationship; permanance,

purpose, and committment are the keys.

 

We all know the state of affairs as it relates to marriage here in

the

USA. Divorce rates are at all-time high levels. Additionally, we

know

from many studies produced by those who work in such fields, that

the

YOUNGER a person is when they marry, the MORE LIKELY they are to

divorce

later on. Most researchers tend to agree that, in our society, a

person

who marries before age 25 has a tremendous set of odds stacked

against

them in terms of making their marriage last in the long term.

 

But we astrologers have an additional insight when it comes to these

and

other matters. It is called the Saturn Return.

 

This period, usually occuring between 28 to 30 years of age, is a

time

when transiting Saturn returns to its natal placement in the chart.

This

entire period reflects a very important time of life; it is a time

when

a person truly becomes an adult in our society.

 

How many of us have seen couples who marry prior to their Saturn

Return,

only to divorce not soon after? I think a major reason for this has

to

do with the fact, for most people, they haven't really come into

their

own, so to speak. Saturn represents " the harsh reality " , and

marriage is

a huge responsibility and committment. In our ever increasing

freedom

oriented, individualistic worshipping culture, such concerns are

easily

tossed aside.

 

In particular, in my view, Saturn tying itself into either the 7th

house

and/or Venus in the chart, and/or Saturn Rx, is even stronger signal

that caution and preparedness is needed when it comes to the

question of

marriage. Time, experience, confidence-building and emotional

maturation

are needed before such a massive undertaking is done.

 

I think, more than we may want to admit or even realize, that

Saturn's

role is very, very important when it comes to considering the

question

of marriage or serious, committed longterm relationship.

 

Anyone have any comments, observations or charts they might want to

share?

 

Salaam,

Mu

[Guest guest]

Right you are, Mu. As you say, Saturn has to do with commitment, responsibility, loyalty, the ability to put up with difficulties, etc. So, it plays an important role in marriage.

 

Nowadays, in the west anyway, people give up on marriage as soon as they get a little bored or frustrated.

 

In one of the best marriages I know of, the wife has Saturn exalted in 7th trined by Jupiter. She was 18 when she got married. She also has Venus exalted. She's about 50 now.

 

The idea that marriage is or should be all rose petals is a modern American one, I think. But ... it shouldn't be all thorns, either.

 

 

.... Bettina

 

 

 

 

 

MuMin Bey [mumin_bey]Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:30 PM Subject: Saturn, Marriage and RelationshipHi All,Since we're kind of on this tack, I thought to throw this at ya. We've all read and heard about Saturn's role in terms of overall maturation. But I think what we don't consider nearly enough is this ringed planet's role in relationships and marriage. Classically, Saturn is exalted in Libra - Venus' sign. There is a link established between these two unlikely planets. If one takes the time to study the history and purpose of marriage, particularly in the Western context, one can easily see the connections between this institution's development and Saturn's Western classical exaltation. We all know that any contact between Venus and Saturn tends to suggest a "toning down" a "chilling" of the emotions. A delay, strategic, emotional, or otherwise, can occur in terms of the "blooming" of Venusian dimensions. Looked at in the way we are daling with here, it can suggest a slow, steady building of relationship; permanance, purpose, and committment are the keys. We all know the state of affairs as it relates to marriage here in the USA. Divorce rates are at all-time high levels. Additionally, we know from many studies produced by those who work in such fields, that the YOUNGER a person is when they marry, the MORE LIKELY they are to divorce later on. Most researchers tend to agree that, in our society, a person who marries before age 25 has a tremendous set of odds stacked against them in terms of making their marriage last in the long term. But we astrologers have an additional insight when it comes to these and other matters. It is called the Saturn Return. This period, usually occuring between 28 to 30 years of age, is a time when transiting Saturn returns to its natal placement in the chart. This entire period reflects a very important time of life; it is a time when a person truly becomes an adult in our society. How many of us have seen couples who marry prior to their Saturn Return, only to divorce not soon after? I think a major reason for this has to do with the fact, for most people, they haven't really come into their own, so to speak. Saturn represents "the harsh reality", and marriage is a huge responsibility and committment. In our ever increasing freedom oriented, individualistic worshipping culture, such concerns are easily tossed aside. In particular, in my view, Saturn tying itself into either the 7th house and/or Venus in the chart, and/or Saturn Rx, is even stronger signal that caution and preparedness is needed when it comes to the question of marriage. Time, experience, confidence-building and emotional maturation are needed before such a massive undertaking is done. I think, more than we may want to admit or even realize, that Saturn's role is very, very important when it comes to considering the question of marriage or serious, committed longterm relationship.Anyone have any comments, observations or charts they might want to share?Salaam,Mu