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Now that I think of it, my friend also has a Moon/Saturn aspect.

 

Different subject, but I've noticed that people with Moon and Saturn in

aspect tend to cling to the past. Often they remain unusually close to ...

either their actual parents, or their parent's values and ways of doing

things long after they've reached maturity. Probably all their lives, in

fact.

 

Any one else notice that?

 

 

.... Bettina

 

 

 

 

 

Mark Kincaid [m.kincaid]

Thursday, August 05, 2004 1:33 PM

 

2- Robin & Bettina & all, > Mark Kincaid 8/5

re.....Mars & shyness & aggression...

 

 

Dear Robin, friends & All:

 

Don't forget, it's also important to look at the Sun, Rising Signs, and

especially the Moon's when trying to explain quietness.....

 

I have Mars in my 10th House, and have enjoyed...a kind of dynamic side of

myself...

 

But, though Mars is very dominant, like in the first or 7th houses, because

of my Moon in the 12th house, with Saturn, too, and only one house away from

my Sun in the 11th....

 

I also experience a deep kind of 'inwardness', and even shyness, that a

strong dominant Mars, doesn't completely explain.

 

I also know a friend who has Mars in her first house, and she too, is very

shy. Her shyness, is because her Moon's with her Saturn in her 11th House,

and she's often been able to tell me,

she understands why her Mars is uncomfortable in her first house, because

she does go 'too fast' sometimes, and can get upset or irritable fairly

easily.

 

Like Bettina has said before, it's very important to look at all the

different aspects of our charts.

 

We have to study each part of our charts, individually, one at a time,

but...

we need to stop and let them all go, and spontaneously, embrace all of them,

together....

at some point...

 

 

ciao

 

 

 

Mark K.

 

 

 

> " Bettina " <chiria

>

> Thu, 5 Aug 2004 13:10:37 -0700

>

> RE: Re: 2- Rajeev, > Mark Kincaid

8/3...re..... To

> Mark from Rajeev on Kuja Dosha

>

> Robin ...

>

> I have a relatively new friend (I've known her for about 10 mos. now).

She

> has Mars smack dab on asc in Virgo along with Neptune. Mars is a wide

> square to Mercury. From what I've seen of her, she's very quiet, very

> intelligent. She teaches 3rd grade. She's into metaphyshics (she's Navajo

> and I think that has much to do with her spiritual background). She

doesn't

> seem Mars-like at all to me.

>

> However, she's never married (she's in her mid-fifties). She's

tremendously

> independent. Perhaps that's what Mars in asc in female chart means. You

> sound independent, too.

>

> Anyhow, welcome to the group!

>

>

> ... Bettina

>

>

>

>

> Robin Welch [AiiluroTangent]

> Thursday, August 05, 2004 12:07 PM

>

> Re: 2- Rajeev, > Mark Kincaid 8/3...re.....

> To Mark from Rajeev on Kuja Dosha

>

>

> Hi, all,

>

> Am new in this group & facinated with the Mars discussion.

> I have Mars in Aquarius in ASC aspected loosely by Moon and

> tightly by Ketu; have any of you read James Braha's books? In one

> he talked about a woman who had Mars in first--he said he would have

> expected her to be aggressive but she was one of the gentlest people

> he knew. I can identify, can't stand aggressiveness --I think Ketu

> burned that out of Mars. But, I have to have lots of physical

> activity or it adversely affects health (moon as 6th ruler?). Had a

> desk job before and am much happier with an active one! (I am

> female, BTW, and am a rural mail carrier now) Also, Mars in first is

> a good one for females --read that it makes one look younger than

> their age, and I have been told that a lot.

> I have heard that 2 people with Mars Dosha should marry. But I

> don't think it really cancels out. Actually, look at your own 7th

> house its ruler & navamsa and Venus. I have my 7th ruler Sun

> conjunct Rahu, and aspected by Saturn; and Saturn is tightly

> conjunct Venus. (Venus sub-periods are tough! I learned to work

> really really hard to get the good out of 'em) Also a debilitated

> Moon in my 7th in navamsa. Whereas my 5th ruler Mercury is aspected

> by Jupiter; so, even with Ketu in 5th, well, let's put it like

> this: dating a man will give me no clue as to what kind of married

> life we'll have. (sounds of jail doors slamming) (Honeymoon is OVER)

> I should just date. Of course if I'd known years ago...

> One other thing, what do you think?: probably better not to

> have the other person's ASC lord as your MMP.

> One book had some clues on what house relationship your ASC

> ruler & your 7th house ruler has, and your prospective partner's

> also. If your prospective partner had Mars and Saturn aspecting

> his/her 7th, say, and the 7th lord in a dustana, it may be quite a

> different life than the 7th receiving Jupiter and Venus aspects.

> A book I read by a Mr Joshi said that love marriages don't need

> all the astrological compatibility work (i think he was talking

> about kuta, yoni, etc--all the really complicated things), but what

> Mr. Braha wrote in his latest book , The Art and Practice of Ancient

> Hindu Astrology, was so accurate it had my jaw dropping!

> I loved that about telling the guy with Venus in tenth to be

> sweet...you know, one of the Gabor sisters said that men love with

> their eyes, and women love with their ears. Harsh speech is a

> definite romance killer to a woman. Would you want your lady's face

> to have a hideous expression toward you? Ears and eyes, remember?

> And sweet speech is hard to resist.

>

> Robin

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