Guest guest Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 To All This is the virus that has come up on my screen 3 times now in last day. Read below. My computer completely crashed again two weeks ago. I lost everything. Including backup files because they too were corrupted. There seems to be a few very virulent viruses out there that can easily be transfered to any one computer disguised as something else. So. if one is downloading a lot of information from various sites or say receiving information from various people from the net (and who knows what part of the world or network they are coming from) or do a lot of research on their computer like I do - (all these reasons and I am sure many more) easily opens one to be attacked. It is more than be neglegent. These viruses are often written in an ad or in an attachment unknowing to the sender and once you open (or click on) you often now are attacked or being use to transfer the virus to other areas you visit on the net. The recent viruses that are circulating know how to replicate themselves and even though you try everything to get rid of them they come back and with a vengence. Here is an example: You purposely or inadvertantly open an ad. Once this ad is downloaded to your computer it creates itself time and time again even if you orginally deleted it. Also. the viruses that came on this one ad now knows the language to corrupt other ads and bring them to your computer. Know matter that you have scaned you computer or readjusted your firewall once you've got it - your it. My computer was so bad a few weeks ago that just turning on my computer to get to my email program was virualy impossible. My screen looked liked a 1000 piece animated jigsaw puzzle of ads. The same one over and over again. It wouldn't let me go any further. This is what I had to do: I called and verify with my internet provider the problem. I called my computer technical suport company (Dell) who help me with the operating mechanics of the computer along with the written software I have on my computer. I then had to call and work with my broadband internet provider who handles my email accts. The Trojan virus that was detrimmed to be the culprit left me no choice but to rewrite/reprogram over everything on my computer and reinstall all my operating software. The corruption on my computer contaminated everybit of information and all my files on my computer that I had no choice but to clear my whole computer to get it to work properly. eveything! I say this with a heavy and sad heart and a warning to others to be viglilent in frequently scanning you computer for viruses and having installed a firewall spam and virus prtection software. I did and thought I was well protected. Since my computer was so severely hit last Fall I had to get a whole new computer and then in May of this year my computer got hit again. So I though with all this protection and firewall and virus program running in the background, set to automatically search on a regular basis that I had licked the problem. NO SO. I have been advised from the security software programs companies, the virus protection companies and my internet people that it is NOT enough to have these programs installed on one's computer or just have them running in the backgroud. One must take the time EVERYDAY to manuaully run their virus scan and delete all that is acknowledged and Run everyday your manual check on your firewall and any other protection you might have. Like Spyseeker. and or sophisticated Internet virus scans It takes about 40 minutes to a little over an hour everyday for me to run these checks over and above what my computer will do automatically on timed setup or supposedly continuoisly. It is an inconvenience but well worth it. The advice is that these viruses are so strong and devious and continuous that constant attention manually must be done daily. I hope this info helps others. I hope my computer stays healthy. It's been a nightmare. It is not fun loosing all of ones data and having your operational system severely corrupted. These viruses do have a mind of their own and they easily can get into your computers. I keep my computer as simple as possible. I do not download any fancy artwork or photos or displays for the screen or desktop. I keep it pretty vanilla. Same goes for how I catorise or choose to keep certain information. I have learned not to download indiscriminately any information I am interested in. I have also learned not to store great amounts of research information in my favorites. If there is information I need I try try to get most of it off line. If I must (and there is a lot of times this necessary) I get the information I need and then get off that internet link as soon as possible then delete or close access to internet. Most things I do not tap on to when promtpted unless I know exactly what it is and where it is coming from. I do NOT send anything with an Attachment Nor do i open anything with an attachment. I do not click on ads and I do not tap on a link. If I want to see what's in that link I directly enter its URL into my computer on another screen. I do not leave my email open for long intervals nor do I keep my internet open for any one great lenght at a time. I frequently restart my computer during the day and I completely shut down when i go to bed at night. Sometimes I will completely shut down one or more times during the day. This is meant to disrupt any tracking of my computer from the internet. The computer experts advise this. One would think that having all the advantages of a computer could make our lives more effecient and help us to be better informed and communicate easier. Unfortunately, as it often happens with new technology. Our lives are advanced but made more complicated and do at times leave us more vulnerable. I have learned to use my computer as a TOOL for information and limited communication. I have eliminated most groups and other social communicating open access. I transfer off my computer most internet information that I want or need. I also have taken to running on my computer no more than two open windows at a time. Self contained software/programs are fine. But, anything that requires me to be on the interenet online is restricted for safety. Think about this - My main use for my computer is for research. So, you can imagine how complicated this can be to stay safe. However, it is a new way of learned behvaior and not assumming that I am protected just because I have as they say " all my ducks in order " . I no longer take for granted that using my computer is a free and safe environment to be in. In fact it is a great tool to reach around the globe. But the globe is a very big place with a lot of strangers. It's learned behavior to be safe. Much like locking you doors at night and nver walking alone when dark. I've talked with the experts, they have helped me three times now in 10 months to restore my computer operation system even with all the proctection. I now absolutely follow everything they say to do to the T and hope it holds me. I am also backing up my files and getting them off my computer immediately. Nothing gets stored unless it is essential. My office looks like an office of the past I have and keep hard paper copies of everything in file cabinets. And my appts and calendar are in desk books on my desk and not kept on the computer any longer. Nor do i use the telephone through my computer for phone conversations. Last month the first virus was found on Ipod. Mac's too are starting to be penetrated. The word is viruses are here to stay and are something that we all are going to have to deal with on a daily bais as each gets stronger and has a mind of it's own. The good news is there is better detection by law enforcement throughout the world to find and go after the hackers with severe criminal consequences. The bad news is the viruses wheather created by a 14yr old in his basement here or across the world or an organized crime syndicated thugs ring to play havoc with computers for international territory rights and power does little to help us when it is our computer who gets the virus that once put into effect ,is now virtually out of control replicating itself and having its own mind of destruction. Good Luck - get protected several different ways - runn daily computer scans manually and stay computer safe. Debra - < Mail Virus Protection <mail-antivirus> " " Sunday, October 03, 2004 1:16 AM " Alert: Virus Detected but not Cleaned - Attachment Removed " [ Incoming message] > " Mail Virus Protection detected the virus ' " W32.Beagle.X@mm " ' in the file ' " Alive_condom.com " ', attached to the enclosed email message. We scanned the file using Norton AntiVirus but were unable to clean it. Therefore, we removed the content of the attachment from the message. Please contact the message sender if you want to receive the attachment. They must clean the file and resend it before we can deliver it to you safely. > > " > > " Mail successfully cleans most infected attachments, which protects you from viruses. > " > --- ------- ---- > - Original Message ----- Mark Kincaid Sunday, October 03, 2004 11:31 AM 2-Sharon, > Mark K. 10/3....Re: Viruses? anyone know about ? Thanks, Sharon: Well, let's put out an appeal, to any others who know about viruses? What did your computer say, you got? Mine, like I said, is this new imac, and macs in general seem immune to viruses... I wonder if there's a way we can protect our list better, too... take care Mark K. Sharon <inthislifetime300 Sun, 3 Oct 2004 09:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Re: 2-Sharon, > Mark K. 10/3....Re: Incoming Message sorry, no. Just that I almost downloaded a virus from your list into my computer. Maybe there's a computer geek out there who knows more? Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote: Dear Sharon: Thanks for the message. Don't know how these messages: are coming. I haven't been sending them, they're just appearing in the group messages. We do have a lot of new people starting recently. My Norton Utilities hasn't shown up anything, and I use a Mac anyway which 99% of the time, never gets involved in Viruses. Can you offer any other advice? Mark K. Message 1700 of 1701 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] Message Index Msg # Go In , Sharon <inthislifetime300> wrote: > THIS IS A VIRUS!!!!!! > --- " M.kincaid " <m.kincaid@m...> wrote: > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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