Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Dear Mark, It is my opinion that your observations on Jyotish are profound--comparing the Jyotishee to the Vidja (Ayruvedic Doctor) is so wise, and what you wrote >Our charts aren't our conslusions....they're just >our beginnings.. is surely destined to become a common saying. Learning jyotish/astrology through the " training " to feel the energies of the planets destined to become the teaching method of the future. Namaste to your wisdom and original insights. Sharalyn on 24/10/04 2:28 AM, at wrote: > > > DEAR THERESE: > > And we're all doing that. > > The more we personally, 'revive' Astrology, and make it more relevant, for > modern life, the more it emerges out of the vague, mists of it's ancient > past. > > Personally, I don't care whether the texts are accurate or archaic. > > What matters to me is that our charts, fit us. > > After doing Jyotish, now for over 16 years, the thing that constantly amazes > me is that people's charts......really do fit them. > > And this mean's there's some great insight and wisdom there in our > charts....to help us, all. > > That's also why I like looking at the Best of West & East... > > Eastern may have the better calculations, but as you said, below, the > Western system has had a much more practical take on utilizing Astrology for > very important Psychological reasons. > > The other thing that's very profound in 'Western' mind-set is the belief > that life is progressive, and evolutionary and our Chart's are also > indicative of our ability to grow, to expand, and to even change our Stars! > > Eastern on the other hand, though it's mechanical calculations re. the > charts seems more accurate, they have many other problems which I think need > to be worked out. > > The #1, one, is that India, itslef, has fallend into a terrible, 'funk' > regarding renunciation, and impractical Philosophys. Many of the new, > avant-gard Yogis and Gurus coming out of India, over the last 50 years have > given expression to this fact and the importance that all Vedic Knowledge be > revised, updated and transformed. > > The biggest change I see, is that Ved is beginning to be experienced with > it's more true, progressive and evolutionary bent. > > I mean things like Ayurved already get it. > > You go to an Ayurved doctor and he feels your pulse, and says, 'ahhhhhh, > your pitta has invaded your kapha space, ....and that's why you have high > blood pressure.' > > All manners of prescriptions and things to do, are then given, to bring the > blood pressure down, by balancing the vata, pitta and kapha, energies in the > body. > > Jyotishees, or Astrologers need to have the same, 'fix-it' mentality. > > If that same person was to come to an Astrologer, 'he' should be able to > find the pitta, 'Mars' reason why high blood pressure is going on... > and if there's anything I've learned about Jyotish, it's that it truely > represents the Psychology of the person. > > So, the Jyotishee might say, 'yes, you're doing all these things from the > Ayurved angle, now, do this and that to balance your Mars, within!'...... > > And finally, in regards to 'mysticism'.... there's such a fascinating > renewal, also going on regarding 'consciousness' today. > > I've even heard it be said, that .....'all the hymns of the ved, are > useless, unless the source of the Ved is known.....' > > This means that 'he' who resides in pure consciousness, the hymns of the > Ved, 'ring' out to him/her.... and then, have their real, proper uplifting > effects. > > It's been my great fortune having grown up in the consciousness, meditation, > field, that then, later, studying Jyotish, .... I look at it through the > eyes, of growth, and improvement. > > I've even heard it 'said' ...... " don't take your charts like their written > in stone, they're just the state of your Physiology at birth..... " * > > Now, I understand this. Our charts aren't our conslusions....they're just > our beginnings.. > and being our beginnings....we're here, free, to grow in whatever ways we'd > like.... > > The fact that 'we'd like' to grow in the intimate, ways of our charts.....is > probably a good thing... > > but the fact that we're here to grow and improve.... > needs to be much more understood, especially by the static, fate oriented > mindset of too many of the Easterners..... > > > > Nice talking with you. > > > > Ciao > > > > Mark Kincaid > > > ps... oh yes,..... one more thing.... about why don't mystics study > Astrology more, I think they not have been so prevalent, because they come > from two very different angles... > > Astrology has been so wrapped up in 'intellect'.....learning this and that > rule,....whereas > So much of 'mysticism' or consciousness, so automatically comes from such a > deeper point, beyond the intellect.... > > but it's also been said that " knowledge and experience " ...both > together....make for a very rich and complete wisdom. > > And that's been my experience as well..... > > Astrology is very satisfying intellectually,....but consciousness is very > satisfying.... emotionally, and in terms of the heart.... > > both together...are very satisfying.... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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