Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Who's Your Daddy? - The Primacy Of Saturn Retrograde 5:18 AM 1/11/05 Tue To set the proper stage for this discussion, please allow me to share with you the following lengthy, but very important series of quotes: " The Saturn-retrograde phenomenon is the most incisive " test " , if you will, in the social sciences to measure life conditioning. It speaks to the issue of of controls, the timing of development, the focus of ambition, the crystallization of of being, ends and new starts. When the Saturn symbolism is modified by the phenomenon of retrogradation - and as well, by house placement and aspect - en enormous amount is suggested about the development process. Volumes of behavioral anticipation flow from the symbolism to capture the initial conditions that prevail throughout life concerning the concepts of control and authority. " " Our culture here in the West prescribes that the father is the first authority of life. He rules the home. He conditions behavior. He provides order. The father's favor is extremely important - the favor of whoever is in charge anywhere at any time is extremely important! It is needed. It is primal to our species. It is especially highlighted in the expectations of our society within the extended evolution of European culture. It is undeniably rooted in modern western society. " " Paternal leadership and authority must be administered demonstratively, lovingly, and regularly. If it is not, the children develop problems (remember, the father is expected to behave a certain way by society, and if he fails, the problems on his end are just as complex; in fact, his problems are often taken out on the child; often it is similar to his relationship with *his* father), the family group is disrupted, laws are broken, society is threatened, and disorder follows. The leadership and authority must be administered in terms of the individual's needs. If it is not, the individual does not know where he or she stands, loses self-worth awareness, feels unloved, ungroomed for the future, loses confidence, feels weak in relationships, and, in short, accumulates a great deal of unanswered questions, a lot of unfinished business. All of this is the province of Saturn in the horoscope. " " When Saturn is retrograde, there is a disruption somehow in what ideally is expectd in the development process. The retrogradation introduces the sense of incompleteness. To one degree or another, the child is deprived of what it needs, of what society says it should have to fit in comfortably. There is a detour, a preoccupation, a delay, a pause built into development for some very hard lessons to be learned. " (Synthesis and Counseling in Astrology, by Noel Tyl, pages 38-39) My reason for citing all of that above, by now should be self- explanatory. All of us know, with often jarring clarity, the state of affairs as it regards American family life; the rate of absentee fatherless homes continues to skyrocket, unabated; daytime television talkshows, and now even primetime/nighttime " reality " tv shows, deal almost exclusively with this subject matter; and our nation continues to take a heavy toll in the ongoing disintergration of our society, our families, our very way of life. Whole lives are often lost. Of all the ways one can use the chart to get a handle on what a person's " story " is, where they're coming from, in terms of their early homelife and so on, the strongest, most powerful has to be Saturn Rx. Like many other astrologers, when I first heard those words quoted above, I was extremely skeptical - the first thing that came to my mind was, there were so many people who would be born with Saturn Rx, since it stayed in that state for months at a time. Millions of people in fact would be born with it. Does that mean that " all " of them would have daddy problems? Well, from all that we can see here in society these days, I guess the answer to that question should be pretty obvious. As much as our society today tends to tout single-motherhood resorcefulness, empowerment and autonomy, and as much as our society tends to flout the importance of fathers being involved beyond the ATM machine, all manner of study shows, time and time again, that dads do indeed matter - and that kids without dads in their lives suffer tremendous consequences, all up and down the scale; from incarceration, to teenage pregnancy, to drug involvement and low grades, to ruined lives and stultified dreams. Structuring the environment for the child, showing him/her the ropes as it were, is extremely important to assisting that child in being all that he or she can be. And that structure is astrologically corroborated as coming from the Father, and the Father alone. That is Saturn. There have been times when my entire conversation with a client has been centered around their Saturn Rx alone - it's that powerful! - and often, all that is needed is a mere mention of father in the past, for the tears to start to flow. And I don't mean just women - I've had some of the " hardest " guys on the street cry a river at the mention of dad. Saturn Rx is a very tender, often painful signal that the dad couldn't meet his child's needs for leadership, authority, modelling, " further instructions " - and most of all, love. Mine is an inner-city environment, and as such, much (but certainly not all) of my clientele emanates from this place. So many of them have, by way of sociometrics (African American clientele), the very heightened incidence of fatherless homes, and so Saturn Rx is especially important in pointing out the severity of this loss in so many of their lives. Of course, this can and does happen - daily - in the more far flung suburbs and " xburbs " , but there, the means to combat it are more readily available (counseling, astrological and otherwise, for example) as well as the means to " keep up appearances " . But the power of Saturn Rx is the same. As Tyl pointed out, Saturn Rx can be further specified in terms of its House placement and aspect routings and rulerships. For my money, I've observed that Saturn's placement in certain Houses tends to register more " loudly " than others - the Angular Cross of Houses, along with the 2nd, 5th, 11th and 12th Houses. Of course, the Angular Houses form the Four Pillars upon which the whole of Life rests; from birth, to the early homelife, to our relationships with others, to our place in the Sun, and back to the Source upon death. Saturn Rx's placement, or rulership of these vital Houses, can and often does greatly modify - or, dare I say it - interfere with the natural ebb and flow of what said House represents in the overall scheme of things. For example, Saturn Rx in the Asc often suggests a great deal of confidence problems, identity crises and a " Who am I? " quandry that often takes years to work out. Saturn Rx in the 4th House very often registers as the emotionally impactful parent - which could be the mother or father - to be powerful indeed, usually along dictatorial lines. Saturn Rx in the 10th House certainly can bring up strong questions about what the person is supposed to do out in the world, not quite clear on where he or she stands. Saturn Rx in the 7th House brings up a whole book of questions and concerns dealing with the very problematic state of affairs regarding relationships, no doubt linked to the father's issues early on. Saturn being Rx and at the same time in the 2nd House very often speaks to severe self-esteem issues; Saturn Rx in the 5th can, all things being equal, suggest a profound difficulty giving love to others, because that love was not demonstrated to the native him or herself as a child, mainly by the father; Saturn Rx in the 11th is a super-strong signal that the person does not feel worthy of being loved for themselves, clearly a holdover from the problematic state of affairs with the father; and Saturn Rx in the 12th House is the outsider/loner par excellence, out of step with all that Society says he/she should be; it is signal of a martyr or a rebel without a cause. I've also learned, through my own observations, that Saturn Rx in certain Zodiac Signs can and often do register their own unique permutations on the already established themes of father-difficulty; for example, Saturn Rx in Aries brings to mind vividly the conflict between Mars and Saturn - individuality and authority. This placement can augur some very tough lessons to be learned for sure, because the person has not learned, through the father, how to deal with and manage authority. They haven't " learned the rules " and this can greatly harm such a person's prospects for their future if not dealt with. Saturn Rx in Pisces, to take another example, highlights an already vulnerable placement, Pisces. Here, in its best light, the father would teach the young child about ambition and structure in terms that is self-reliant, helpful and of service to others; being Rx, it can suggest the total lack of self-reliance, due to the father " washing out " , etc. Saturn Rx in Cancer is a most sensitive placement, both because of Cancer's inherent focus needs on domestic and family security, but so too, because of Saturn's inherent inability to meet these needs by way of the Rx status. A very keen signal to look out for. As we all know, Saturn rules the Sign Capricorn, and classically, the Sign Aquarius. When Rx and in these Signs, Saturn's " textbook " difficulties seem to be abated somewhat. I've noticed that the issues that would normally go along with the Saturn Rx tend to be considerably toned down, and in my client files, the father was indeed on the scene in a stronger than usual supportive role, even if he was not idyllic in his so doing. But Saturn Rx, no matter what Sign or House it is in, need NOT be a " death sentence " , if one has knowledge of this beforehand; and this is where we astrologers come in. All of us, from time to time, get requests for doing children or younger people's charts. When seeing Saturn Rx, great care must be made to speak of this signal forthrightly, and devise ways in which it can be handled positively. If the father is still around, he must make every effort to convey his love and affection for the child early and often, to give the child the supportive and authoritative love he/she needs in terms of that child's Saturn symbol (by Sign and House); if the father is not there, the mother must get the child involved in activities like " rites of passage " programs and the like, where men can interact with the child in positive ways to offset the father absence. Dads-to- be and new dads alike can learn much from this state of affairs and be that much better prepared to deal with these things in a much more positive and proactive manner. Saturn represents both duty and fear, and once a man comes to grips with his fear, he is in a far better position to do his duty. In this case, being a Father to his children. For adult clients with this condition in their charts, careful, objective discussion about the past in this regard is what is called for; so that the person can understand that it had nothing to do with them, but rather with what the father was dealing with at the time, his own issues that he had to resolve, whatever they may be. The person will have to work with their Saturn symbol themselves, and the astrologer can help them do that by pointing out the key themes and issues associated with the Sign and House placement of Saturn Rx in their chart. I could cite case examples, from my case files and well-known notables, but there is no need; Saturn Rx examples abound, unfortunately, for us all to see. The trick is in how we deal with them, and to get dads involved - really involved. Salaam, Mu Official Permission & Disclaimer Statement The views and opinions expressed in this Essay are solely those of Mu'Min Bey's alone, and do not necessarily reflect those of the ownership or management of the hosting venue. Mr. Bey gives his permission to post or repost any of his writings that comes included with this Statement. Responsible reply, invited. Mu'Min Bey Weastern & Vedic Astrologer muminbey.tripod.com muminspeaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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