The Astrology of a Law & Order SVU TV Show

[Guest guest]

The Astrology of a " Law & Order SVU " TV Show

 

8:34 AM 3/7/05 Mon

 

One of my favorite tv shows is the " Law & Order " series, created by

tv impresario Dick Wolfe. At present, the original program has

spawned 3 spinoffs, of which " SVU " is but one (and which is shorthand

for " Specical Victims Unit " - a division of New York dectectives who

handle crimes of a sexual nature). When I'm home and I have the time,

I try to watch at least one show a week.

 

" SVU " airs on Saturday nights, and this Saturday night's past, this

particular program dealt with a harrowing tale of sexual molestation,

pain, humilation, guilt and murder. It all revolved around a

condemned man on death row, scheduled to die for the many

molestations/murders he commited of little boys - in fact, in an

effort to get him to talk (about another murder that had taken place

involving yet another little boy playing little league baseball), one

of the detectives had his entire collection of little league baseball

caps - momentos from his many, many molestations of those boys (he

was a little league coach, thus his access to the boys over a multi-

year period) - brought into the jail cell. One by one, the condemned

man went through each cap, smelled it, and then recalled with vivid

clarity the corresponding boy's name, birthdate, and the team he

played for - all 117 of them. Whew. Wow. Of course, as we all know by

now, the man had been tremendously sexually abused himself as a

child, by a man whom he trusted after leaving his natural father's

tryannical home. So, with over a hundred boys being molested

themselves, it would seem reasonable that at least a few of those

boys would go on to molest as adults. At least one did.

 

Sexual Abuse - and by that I mean specifically with respect to

underage children (below the arbitrary 18 year old mark, which can

and often does differ from state to state) - occurs ALOT more than we

may be aware of. Like rape, sexual abuse is a crime which is

contingent on those aggrieved to coming foward with their testimony.

If this is difficult for women to come forward, perhaps a new word

will have to be made up to define how hard it is for men to tell

their stories. The Catholic Church Sex Scandals over the past few

years, which specific focus on the case in Baltimore in the last

year, give clear witness.

 

It is my contention that we as astrologers should pay much more

attention to such issues than we currently do (and I have such a

huge " pet peeve " about us astrologers being so concerned with

consumerist " stuff n fluff " rather than realworld relevance, don't

you know); we have to learn as much as we can about sexuality, both

in terms of the " norms " and outside of it - how to discuss these

things, how to spot potential times when the person could have been

sexually assualted under that age of 18, perhaps say, between 5 and

15? There is some literature extant in these regards, and I would

suggest those so inclined to seek these materials out, they are worth

reading.

 

After this week's " SVU " concluded, the thought occured to me to cast

a Horary chart for the moment when the show first come on...

 

Law & Order SVU TV Show

Sat, Mar 5, 2005

10pm EST

Phila PA

Plac 4 Sco 48

 

I mean, this chart is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO definitive...it's a slam dunk.

 

First off, we have Scorpio(!) rising, the Sign associated most with

the psychological twists and turns of sexuality, its light and shadow

sides, so to speak; how many sexual offenders' charts have we seen

with key placements in Scorpio? Pluto, Scorpio's modern ruler, is in

the 2nd House and is Peregrine in the Noel Tyl nomenclature -

existing in the chart without benefit of Ptolemaic aspect to any

other body. Classically, a peregrine planet often denoted a theif -

today, such a person is a " live wire " (in terms of what that planet

represents), to such an extent that he may go way beyond the norms of

what is acceptable for society overall. With Pluto in Sagittarius,

and with its ruler Jupiter in the 12th, Rx, and square Saturn (also

Rx), we can expect a great deal of " isms " involved in the rationale

for molesting the boys. The character last night (Sat night I mean)

swore up and down that he didn't " hurt those boys, he loved them " and

had all manner of rationalizations to justify his actions.

 

Next, note the 5th House - in Pisces, ruled by Neptune, who in turn

sits in the 4th on the IC point and disposing of the Sun-Venus-Uranus

cluster...great potential for cloudiness, confusion here, regarding

the sexual profile in someway...things are not what they seem, or at

best are fuzzy, hard to get a handle on...Pisces being a dual-bodied

Sign, we can expect bi or homosexual themes here. The Sun in the 5th

House ruling the MC - sports, honor, leadership (coaching children).

And Venus tightly conjuncts Uranus, a signature that is well known to

correlate with bi and/or homosexuality/lesbianism (not always of

course, but often enough, to my thinking, to merit more

consideration - hmmm...). Note too that Uranus is in mutual reception

with Neptune, another " echo " in a big way of confusion, of ego

wipeout, and so on.

 

The most telling feature of this horary map lies in the Moon/Mars-

Saturn opposition, with the latter in Cancer and the former in

Capricorn. In a recent post I put up on generational shifts with

respect to gender roles/politics and how they can be seen and tracked

astrologically, I suggested that the Cancer-Capricorn axis (the Sign

axis most associated with one's parents - Mother and Father - and how

they perceive, interact with them etc.), as well as the recent Uranus-

Neptune conjunction played a hugely significant role in how things

have developed to this point. In this chart, this axis, speaks to

enormous " parental tensions " in the early homelife, with all kinds of

unfinished business with the father, in noting the glaring Saturn Rx

symbolism. In Cancer, the security needs with respect to Saturn-as-

father symbol are paramount, and in its best light, these ideas are

transmitted successfully from father to son - but, if this placement

is compromised - and this Saturn-in-Cancer definitely " is " , by being

both Rx AND opposed Mars - it can be and usually is a horrid signal

of estrangement, coldness, violence, abuse, in the father-son

relationship. It certainly was in that program the other night (and

those so inclined would do well to checkout my essay on Saturn Rx and

Fathers).

 

" Law & Order " , which is a fictional show, is based on real life

events, which are " ripped from the headlines " ; still, it's amazing

that astrology can give such a vivid witness to a theatrical account

of a larger than life human problem.

 

Astrologers - can we talk?

 

Salaam,

Mu

[Guest guest]

Hello Mu,

I too watch Law & Order SVU, and I remember that program which must have

been a repeat last night. Your horary analysis is so very revealing isn't

it? This episode was very intense. It is one of the three shows I do watch

per week. I watch for knowledge, awareness and for that spark that may

trigger memories of my own childhood of abuse. Memories that are still

mostly buried, appearing in flashes when my psyche can deal with it; a very

long frustrating process which I have dealt with for 14 years since my first

flashback.

I certainly agree with you that astrologers should be more concerned with at

least an awareness of these potentialities in the chart of the person who is

coming to us for counseling, one way or another.

I find that a person seeking help through Tarot or Astrology is more open to

discussing those potentialities, or depressions, or suspicions. They tell

you things that I am thinking they might not ever consider telling another.

This must be dealt with in a most subtle but insightful way with great

sensitivity, and only if they have disclosed to you. All it takes is the

right word or right question from you in response to their difficulty, which

they would have already told to you to begin their path to healing.

Education in this area is a prerequisite, although it does not require a

formal study in my opinion.

Too often this is denied, or left unspoken, buried under the carpet and the

person continues on with his/her life in utter chaos, or disorders, never

wanting to take that closer look.

It was a brave person who looked me in the eye and told me about that

potential in my chart, after my own angst and wondering 'what was wrong with

me', and it was enough to begin to trigger in a very small way, I might

add, the chain of events that led to my not being in denial...not being able

to ignore it.

This leads to ultimate healing despite the journey into the darkness within.

 

Morgana

 

-

" MuMin Bey " <mumin_bey

 

Monday, March 07, 2005 7:31 AM

The Astrology of a " Law & Order SVU " TV Show

 

 

>

>

> The Astrology of a " Law & Order SVU " TV Show

>

> 8:34 AM 3/7/05 Mon

>

> One of my favorite tv shows is the " Law & Order " series, created by

> tv impresario Dick Wolfe. At present, the original program has

> spawned 3 spinoffs, of which " SVU " is but one (and which is shorthand

> for " Specical Victims Unit " - a division of New York dectectives who

> handle crimes of a sexual nature). When I'm home and I have the time,

> I try to watch at least one show a week.

>

> " SVU " airs on Saturday nights, and this Saturday night's past, this

> particular program dealt with a harrowing tale of sexual molestation,

> pain, humilation, guilt and murder. It all revolved around a

> condemned man on death row, scheduled to die for the many

> molestations/murders he commited of little boys - in fact, in an

> effort to get him to talk (about another murder that had taken place

> involving yet another little boy playing little league baseball), one

> of the detectives had his entire collection of little league baseball

> caps - momentos from his many, many molestations of those boys (he

> was a little league coach, thus his access to the boys over a multi-

> year period) - brought into the jail cell. One by one, the condemned

> man went through each cap, smelled it, and then recalled with vivid

> clarity the corresponding boy's name, birthdate, and the team he

> played for - all 117 of them. Whew. Wow. Of course, as we all know by

> now, the man had been tremendously sexually abused himself as a

> child, by a man whom he trusted after leaving his natural father's

> tryannical home. So, with over a hundred boys being molested

> themselves, it would seem reasonable that at least a few of those

> boys would go on to molest as adults. At least one did.

>

> Sexual Abuse - and by that I mean specifically with respect to

> underage children (below the arbitrary 18 year old mark, which can

> and often does differ from state to state) - occurs ALOT more than we

> may be aware of. Like rape, sexual abuse is a crime which is

> contingent on those aggrieved to coming foward with their testimony.

> If this is difficult for women to come forward, perhaps a new word

> will have to be made up to define how hard it is for men to tell

> their stories. The Catholic Church Sex Scandals over the past few

> years, which specific focus on the case in Baltimore in the last

> year, give clear witness.

>

> It is my contention that we as astrologers should pay much more

> attention to such issues than we currently do (and I have such a

> huge " pet peeve " about us astrologers being so concerned with

> consumerist " stuff n fluff " rather than realworld relevance, don't

> you know); we have to learn as much as we can about sexuality, both

> in terms of the " norms " and outside of it - how to discuss these

> things, how to spot potential times when the person could have been

> sexually assualted under that age of 18, perhaps say, between 5 and

> 15? There is some literature extant in these regards, and I would

> suggest those so inclined to seek these materials out, they are worth

> reading.

>

> After this week's " SVU " concluded, the thought occured to me to cast

> a Horary chart for the moment when the show first come on...

>

> Law & Order SVU TV Show

> Sat, Mar 5, 2005

> 10pm EST

> Phila PA

> Plac 4 Sco 48

>

> I mean, this chart is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO definitive...it's a slam dunk.

>

> First off, we have Scorpio(!) rising, the Sign associated most with

> the psychological twists and turns of sexuality, its light and shadow

> sides, so to speak; how many sexual offenders' charts have we seen

> with key placements in Scorpio? Pluto, Scorpio's modern ruler, is in

> the 2nd House and is Peregrine in the Noel Tyl nomenclature -

> existing in the chart without benefit of Ptolemaic aspect to any

> other body. Classically, a peregrine planet often denoted a theif -

> today, such a person is a " live wire " (in terms of what that planet

> represents), to such an extent that he may go way beyond the norms of

> what is acceptable for society overall. With Pluto in Sagittarius,

> and with its ruler Jupiter in the 12th, Rx, and square Saturn (also

> Rx), we can expect a great deal of " isms " involved in the rationale

> for molesting the boys. The character last night (Sat night I mean)

> swore up and down that he didn't " hurt those boys, he loved them " and

> had all manner of rationalizations to justify his actions.

>

> Next, note the 5th House - in Pisces, ruled by Neptune, who in turn

> sits in the 4th on the IC point and disposing of the Sun-Venus-Uranus

> cluster...great potential for cloudiness, confusion here, regarding

> the sexual profile in someway...things are not what they seem, or at

> best are fuzzy, hard to get a handle on...Pisces being a dual-bodied

> Sign, we can expect bi or homosexual themes here. The Sun in the 5th

> House ruling the MC - sports, honor, leadership (coaching children).

> And Venus tightly conjuncts Uranus, a signature that is well known to

> correlate with bi and/or homosexuality/lesbianism (not always of

> course, but often enough, to my thinking, to merit more

> consideration - hmmm...). Note too that Uranus is in mutual reception

> with Neptune, another " echo " in a big way of confusion, of ego

> wipeout, and so on.

>

> The most telling feature of this horary map lies in the Moon/Mars-

> Saturn opposition, with the latter in Cancer and the former in

> Capricorn. In a recent post I put up on generational shifts with

> respect to gender roles/politics and how they can be seen and tracked

> astrologically, I suggested that the Cancer-Capricorn axis (the Sign

> axis most associated with one's parents - Mother and Father - and how

> they perceive, interact with them etc.), as well as the recent Uranus-

> Neptune conjunction played a hugely significant role in how things

> have developed to this point. In this chart, this axis, speaks to

> enormous " parental tensions " in the early homelife, with all kinds of

> unfinished business with the father, in noting the glaring Saturn Rx

> symbolism. In Cancer, the security needs with respect to Saturn-as-

> father symbol are paramount, and in its best light, these ideas are

> transmitted successfully from father to son - but, if this placement

> is compromised - and this Saturn-in-Cancer definitely " is " , by being

> both Rx AND opposed Mars - it can be and usually is a horrid signal

> of estrangement, coldness, violence, abuse, in the father-son

> relationship. It certainly was in that program the other night (and

> those so inclined would do well to checkout my essay on Saturn Rx and

> Fathers).

>

> " Law & Order " , which is a fictional show, is based on real life

> events, which are " ripped from the headlines " ; still, it's amazing

> that astrology can give such a vivid witness to a theatrical account

> of a larger than life human problem.

>

> Astrologers - can we talk?

>

> Salaam,

> Mu

>

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Morgana! Nice to see you back. (I've been absent a lot myself, lately.)

 

Therese

 

At 09:53 AM 3/7/05 -0800, Morgana wrote:

>

>>I too watch Law & Order SVU, and I remember that program which must have

>been a repeat last night. Your horary analysis is so very revealing isn't

>it?...

[Guest guest]

Hi Therese, Two computers later, and a new one now, yes I am back on-line

awhile ago, and this post of Mu's certainly caught my attention enough to

respond.

Love what you are doing with your site Therese, cheers, Morgana

 

-

" Therese Hamilton " <eastwest

 

Monday, March 07, 2005 12:34 PM

Re: The Astrology of a " Law & Order SVU " TV Show

 

 

>

> Hi Morgana! Nice to see you back. (I've been absent a lot myself, lately.)

>

> Therese

>

> At 09:53 AM 3/7/05 -0800, Morgana wrote:

> >

> >>I too watch Law & Order SVU, and I remember that program which must have

> >been a repeat last night. Your horary analysis is so very revealing

isn't

> >it?...

>

>

>

>

>

>