2-Durga, re..... Jupiter & Saturn Transits from Now,& Assorted Jyotish discussion, Mark Kincaid...3/9

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Dear Durga:

 

Very nice hearing from you and you, opening up, like this.

 

I think this is one of the great lessons of Astrology, that we learn to look at ourselves more objectively.

 

When one person looks at your chart, and then, another, and then, another, still...

and they all, say many things that are the same,...

 

and yes, our inner voice, confirms...that 'yes'....we are like that...

 

Then, we've got it!

 

We've got the Astrological, 'ahhha'....

 

and owning ourselves, more... we begin the process....of truely getting our life purpose.

 

This has always been one of the greatest interests of Astrology....

to help people cognize or understand their life purposes...

 

And it's tricky,.... because for each one of us, we have a unique life purpose...

 

I, in fact, was just thinking of this this am....

 

A really great way of thinking of the benefits of Astrology... is .... that our own charts,

each one of us, has a unique chart, that no one else in the World has.

 

I've only met a couple of people who were born around or on my birthday, and though

I felt an amazing kinship to 'them' because we're both living the same or similar Astrological

Realities,.... the truth, is, however,...

that each one of us, is living a unique....Astrological Reality....

 

that,....once we 'get it',....what that means...

and we learn what the particular, uniquely personal lessons of our own chart's is all about...

 

then, we're learning one of the most precious aspects of human life,...and Astrology...

 

See below:

 

 

 

" gkdurga " <gkdurga

 

Wed, 09 Mar 2005 04:33:07 -0000

 

2-Mark, Jupiter & Saturn Transits from Now, 3/8/05 until 2010....

 

 

 

Mark,

I guess I knew this coming and I automatically am preparing on

fourth gear, I am moving much faster and with concentration. I have

to really pull myself together to sit and concentrate but when I

do ...my studies are staying with me.

 

I've gained so much benefit from realizing, a few years now, that the Winter's

truely, are the time of rest and contemplation & rejuvenation...and the Spring

is definitely a time, to do more...

 

Learning more about the natural cycles of rest & activity.... automatically,...

enlivens the benefic side of Saturn, within us...

 

And, yet, it's tricky....

There's not only the huge, rest & activity cycles of the year...Winter, & Spring & summer...

but there's the Monthly cycle of the Moon,

 

Right now, of course is only 1 day before the New Moon, and I've been feeling that intense,

inwardness, which is the true nature of the New Moon...

 

Allowing myself to 'be' with 'that' cycle, is one of the greatest things I've learned from studying

Astrology....

 

Finally, there is the daily cycle, which is a very important 'rest' cycle...

 

With Saturn in my 12th house, I've always had a very difficult time, with cycles, and especially,

the daily one...

 

I've always not, liked, going to bed early, or on-time,...but...

since I've been studying Astrology and especially Ayurved,....which teaches sooo concretely,

about the joys and benefits of going to bed early....

and even, how to change one's ways....of doing that...

 

I've been feeling a tremendous shift in my life,...

and infinitely more inner happiness and calmness in my body, and mind/heart...

 

For the last one or two months in various websites, when I look up

my sign, everywhere there is only onething, change is immenent and

you cant stop it.

 

Yes, change, is inevitable,....but...

the human condition, also craves.... non-change...

 

The holding on that we go through, ....

whether resisting change or feeling inertia,....are signs...of not enough

inner silence...

 

When we're more awakened, inside, we naturally carry that inner poise, with us,...more..

And at the right times, then, we can either swing into activity,...

or like now, not do,.....much....

 

I've finally learned how to rest more, to save more, (money), and those two aspects of Sani's

lesson, is soooo helpful for being able to do, the right things....

at the right times...

 

All the things I was keeping to myself either with

lethargy/affection/neglect are coming out with double the vigour. I

am hurting my dearest in unpardonable ways. (Effect of

mars/uranus/pluto/neptune I guess)

 

Once we start to learn the particular lessons of our own charts...

 

Then, we start being better for others, especially our dearest loved ones...

but also our dearest friends, and even strangers...

 

the Key, is self-mastery.... which is the most important thing....

Then, giving to others...

Because the basis of giving to others, esp. our dearest loved one's...

is to first have inner enlivenment, happiness and bliss....

then, giving is automatic,....

like an overflowing cup...

we spill out, everywhere...

 

But, if we don't pay enough attention to our own needs, we'll feel strained,

and un-natural, and keep accumulating more and more stress, till we get sick....

 

 

 

I somehow, I really dont know how, learnt to listen to the universe

and my innerself, yes, I do puja and listen to lots of hymns and

stothras. And probably that is meditation.

 

Yes, there must be ennumerable ways to enliven, and gain inner perspective,

and bliss....

 

For me the path has been conscious, formal meditation, and that's been sooo good for me..

 

I know I needed that regular, more objective, form,...because I was so unfamiliar, with all

those things, Vedic...

 

Now, that path has branched out into all kinds of other things, like personal relationship with God, and individual and precious, personal activities, that I would never have guessed at.

 

Right now my inner self is telling me not become too happy with the

status quo...get careful and work harder.

 

That's a good, clear perception, especially during the time of Aquarius...

Sun, Mercury, and now Moon, all in Aquarius, teaches all about being more unconventionally

creative....

 

well said...

 

But, don't work too hard!

hehe,...

 

Let your body, tell you if you're needing more activity,...or rest...

 

And the way to ultimately 'tell', is after giving yourself, more rest,....do you feel better,....?

 

I also find that I benefit a lot from doing more with my body....

 

If I don't do enough yoga, or yoga asanas, I feel stiff, and body aches, and I'm prone to, too many aggravations of the body....

 

 

 

 

All this signals were always there with me, but I always , always

neglected to listen to them.

 

Ahhh, well said...

 

I think that's true for most of us...

 

We're not encouraged to 'listen',....

which after all, is a Moonish,...activity....

 

And because the Moon, in life, is not appreciated,...we don't know how to listen,

or how to nourish,...and ultimately,....care,...enough or in the right ways...

 

 

Correct me if I am wrong but I am going thru this Ketu Mahadasa

which has given me a very high position, (or so to speak where I

would like to be I was offered an internship and I did great in it

and got lot of laurels from it,but in the end I was dumped miserably

which made me utterly negative),

 

Your description, here is the classic description of Rahu/Ketu,... where we even

gain the things, and desires fulfilled during that period, but at the end, loose,

all that we've gained!

 

That's Rahu/Ketu, for you, and what they're trying to teach,...

is not to go for the outer, ....

without, first going for the inner....

 

Because if the inner, is the first and ultimate, desire of ours, ...

then, as that inner, splashed, out....onto the outer...

then, it's unique ups and downs,...don't affect us...

because we're deeply rooted,...to the stability, and security of 'that' unique 'inner'!

 

 

now I have all these fears of never

able to get it back...probably I wont...but I dont know why I have

this very bold and daring attitude of lets see how far this will

go...lets see if it will change if I change a little bit.

 

It's natural then, to have fears of 'falling' when we rose up so high, and then, spashed,

on our face....

 

those experiences,... incline us, to pursue, our dreams in slightly different ways....so....

that we don't crash, and burn....

 

 

I figured to stop asking whats in it for me, and started to do whats

in it for the opposite person. Always give first to get it back.

Investment...profit

Saturn...Jupiter

 

Yes, always an interesting tension between giving to oneself, and giving to others...

 

If we hold back from giving,...for whatever reason, then, that's no good...

 

If we give too much to ourselves, we get imbalanced, that way, too...

 

I find that my heart and mind/body, tells me, when I've given enough to myself,...

and feel that inner quietness and inner happiness,....

then my giving is fuller, more stable, and doesn't shake, when it comes into contact with others.

 

 

 

I begining to realise I have brains too, I am not dumb, I am just

slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow. There is no free cup of tea...you

are going pay for it later, if not now.

 

These are my thoughts for today, I feel utterly exhausted and

saturated with the amount of input I am giving myself, sort of an

obsession to do or die.

 

People often feel a deep exhaustion, during the heighth of the New Moon....

But,

that's because they're not used to giving enough to themselves, in the unique ways...

of the Stars...

 

but once we start to give more regularly, to ourselves....

daily,

Monthly ...and

even yearly....

 

then, we'll feel inward, but without feeling exchausted...

 

But I am following your

advices ...suggestions...I am moderating my approaches...slowing

down..taking breaks...I will follow and plan arround the dates

 

It's a great plan...

a divinely, inspired plan...

 

A plan, really created by God...

as the ultimate path....

 

It's natural, nature's way....

 

By watching what nature does, and experiencing,...those qualities, regularly, coming up

each day, and month for me, ...

 

I've learned it's completely easy to flow, more, with Nature,...

and as a result, now, finally, I'm beginning to get....more....

and that's the really fulfilling part....

 

In a nut shell....Thanks a lot for giving me an opportunity to

enlighten myself.

 

It's my great pleasure...

 

Once you've learned these kinds of things, for oneself, ....

the next step of achievement, ....

is to share with others....

 

And experiencing that unique bliss,.....is almost indescribable....

 

Joy to you, too....

 

 

Durga.

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Mark K.