[time-space2] This Divine Creation: Without QM Fraud!

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yo Tom!

 

It IS funny, being on the internet, where

very few have learned to read or write, and

here we are discussing (seemingly reading

and writing!) on topics for which we had to

go through hundreds of books and thousands

of papers, and countless classrooms and

labs and conferences ...

 

To explain to someone who has never been

to college or university, or worked for the govt

or an aerospace corporation, how you show

up in your General Relativity class at Stanford

and the very first lecture (ref. the Classical

Electrodynamics text) by Professor Robert

Wagoner, and you are obliged to copy total

nonsense from the chalkboard on which he

is writing. [not picking on Wagoner, it is the

same with every physics class or lab in all

institutions.]

 

I remember the same from my earliest

chemistry and physics labs, which got worse

as you ascended to the upper division then

graduate level then post-graduate labs.

You didn't get through the lab unless you

got the RIGHT results, which you might

have to do time after time, CHANGING

your procedures until they conformed

with the theory and measurements and

deriviations that you had to have. To even

think about questioning the professor on

this would be to bring academic ruin upon

yourself.

 

So the General Relativity manure began the

same as the Special Relativity nonsense ...

in SRT it was -- for the sake of conforming to

the false formalism, mathematics, that was

being promoted -- demanded that you state

that the velocity of light was a constant, a

number not a variable, and it was placed in

the equation with the label C.

 

Then you wind your way through the ten

or twenty pages of his paper, with similar

miss-statements all along, and come to the

so-called conclusion, deriviation, that the

velocity of light is THEREFORE (?) constant,

and we will call it C!

 

The institution, church, government, media,

corporate state, is telling all of us that we are

no longer permitted to go back to the start

of the SRT paper and point out that the

idiocy of calling the velocity of light constant

was NOT a derivation, it was the artifice which

was used to begin the whole meaningless

charade! [Which every physicist in the world

KNEW at the beginning of the 20th century,

all light and electromagnetic phenomena

demonstrated a variable lightspeed which

was dependent on the speed and material

of the medium, and upon the frequency

of the wave.]

 

Not even a few percent of the population are

that unintelligent to admit that the Sun is black

today, because you said it was, fifteen pages back.

Servile enough, yes! Witness the 911 Banker's

charade, when $50 Trillion was skimmed from

the market, and some 90 percent of the North

American population obeyed the dictum of

the media anchors universal message of

religious war.

 

But back to our Classical Electrodynamics class ...

the Jackson text as well as the classes began

with the requirement that to model the dynamic

relationships of the cosmos the equations

REQUIRED that you BELIEVE that all the electrons

and protons and other particles in the interstellar

and intergalactic plasmaspheres be randomly

oriented in their electromagnetic fields! Wait,

say that again. All the fields have to cancel,

in fact we will assume they do not exist, there

is no electromagnetic fields, then and ONLY

then can we write a GRAVITATION theory.

 

Here you are in class, with this strange expression

on your face, looking at the teacher and your

classmates around you -- saying wait a minute,

of course all the particles have fields, both

individually and collectively. That is what

electromagnetism is.

 

And all you get back from you is command

obediance. " No, the collective effect is zero. "

 

The more you smile, and chuckle, and talk

about the electrodynamic particles and their

collective stellar, galactic, and other fields ...

the harder and angrier the looks and language

get. Obviously the spectre of the university

police coming to remove you from your class

does not arise. No student, ever, that I have

observed would even raise the eyebrows of

their professors. Else they would never get

a passing grade, or complete the quarter, or

move on to the advanced courses, or ever

graduate. Anyone with that kind of integrity

would have never been admitted to the

University to begin with.

 

So, General Relativity. Identical to SR. Wholly

bogus economic-military-political dogma.

Page one you must define that the electromagnetic

and electrodynamic experiences, the sacred

and mystical, do NOT exist. You NEVER felt

that magnet, never saw it hover. Never witnessed

lightning. Never had a tingle down your spine.

 

Never once in your life witnessed the sunrise.

 

Never had your hair raised in fright ... accept in

that laboratory, in that classroom nightmare!

 

Of the monster of murder, the global corporate

consumer state ... of mindless, soul-less,

ignorant servitude.

 

Sans all our spirit relations,

 

 

Millennium Twain

 

http://www.groupkos.com/mtwain/

NuclearStructure/

 

--- tomkar <tomkar> wrote:

 

Twain ---you are correct.

 

I would agree GR is not all that it is cracked up to be.

Einstein never received a Nobel prize for GR, which is

odd, if it really had merit.

 

GR is a pop star of physics. It is time to put aside the

time space warpage, and space time drags, and go

back to a fundamentally workable ether theory, or

Zero Point Energy theory or what ever you want to

call it, maybe improved string theory.

 

It was fun while it lasted, this GR religion no one

could understand, or explain to the common folk.

How high and mighty were the mystic scientist,

in the end, only an old man behind a curtain,

shooting of bells and whistles. No productivity,

no answers, no direction, just a show, just a

story to entertain.

 

Tom and Carole

 

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MessiahTwain

 

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General Relativity is whole rubbish.

 

No correspondence with nature/experience ...

 

none in the assumptions, none in the discussions

and analysis, and none in the derivations.

 

to say otherwise is to have never have read or

studied GR, and to never have observed or

discussed or studied nature before and within

us.

 

we are not discussing here wannabee physicist's

abilities to behave in obediance to the strictures

of the corporate state ... to be the priests of the

military industry ...

 

we are speaking here of true students of nature,

in service to the divine human family,

 

and all our sacred relations,

 

Millennium Twain

 

truly said, however, that Quantum Mechanics

(and Special Relativity) stood up from day one

proclaiming to be the voice of the JudeoChristian

Church of political consumer conformity!

 

http://www.groupkos.com/mtwain/

NuclearStructure/

NaturalPhilosopHER/

DiosasAncianos2012/

 

cyclesi@ .com, Ray Tomes <ray@> wrote:

Re: [cyclesi] Cyclical universe/Chuck/ Ray

 

Gary wrote:

> ... It is inconceivable to me that GR is considered the

absolute

> authority in gravity and astrophysics and that virtually

all physics

> departments at universities, and virtually all journal

editors are so

> entrenched, and simply ignore that there is no physical

basis to the

> theory whatsoever. Please comment.

To me words like " physical basis " are a problem. That

simply means that

you don't have a picture in your mind. I cannot understand

why anyone

would have a problem with the maths of GR as it works in

all known cases

correctly. This is unlike QM where they change the rules

whenever it

gets a wrong result and pretend that it was right all

along.

 

Certainly a model is useful, but you can get a model for GR

from an

aether theory with either a tensile medium or a fluid

medium. Many

physicists do not understand this, but it has been proven

convincingly

that LET (Lorenz Ether Theory) gives identical predictions.

If you want

a push gravity then you can do it quite happily working

with a fluid

aether and LET and get all the same answers as GR.

 

If you think that push gravity will get different answers

then I would

check your calculations very carefully.

 

regards

Ray