Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 JAI SRIRAM Dear Sri.Dakshinamoorthi, Some astrologers are saying signifactor(karaka) is the most important than house lord(stanathipathi) ,but some says in viceversa that though signifactor is powerful if house lord is not in good strength then no result... Please clarify. Thanks, Venkatesh.S. Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Dear Member: Results cannot be easily compartmentalized like that in astrology. We have to imbibe the whole picture and then predict using our discretion. When judging any sector of life, the following factors are to be considered: 1) Natural karaakas of the respective sectors (like Venus for wife, Sun for father, etc.) 2) Bhaava karakaas (Sun for ascendant, Jupiter for 2, 5, 11 houses, etc.) 3) Chara Kaarakaas (based on degree occupied by the planet) 4) Planets placed in the respective houses ruling the sector of life.--- (there could be multiple houses owning different aspects of the same sector; for instance wealth can be read by 2, and 11th houses; while 6th also should be considered for reading about debts; all 3 should be considered while giving a financial analysis!). 5) Strength of the house lords 6) Aspects to the concerned house and the concerned house lord 7) Argalaas (both positive and obstructing) 8) Dispositor of the respective house lords 9) Navamsa position of the house lord/ navamsa dispositor of the respective house lord. 10) Specific raaja yogaas that have a bearing on the sector we are analyzing like (Guru-mangala yoga can show good results with regard to property; so this impact should be studied in consonance with the individual aspects of the respective lords). All these should be holistically assessed before coming to a conclusion. Astrology is definitely not a child's play what with so many factors to be juggled successfully and fixed in the proper theoretical perspectives before coming to a reasonably accurate conclusion. Considering only the sthira kaarakas/ chara Kaarakaas or the house lord - and that too only considering their strength is too simplistic and will lead us nowhere while predicting. Now, what about the consideration of the placement of the kaarakaa and the house lord? All these play a role. Arguing one or the other is the most important determinant is just not correct. All these are important elements in a horoscope. Eyes see the world; but it is the brain which processes the images. Can you say that only the Eyes are important because they catch the image, or can you say that only the Brain is important because it processes the image? The truth is, for effective functioning (translated to our scenario - for effective manifestation of good results), they have to function in unison. They have their respective roles to play and we have to judge how far they influence the matter in hand. Blessed be. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. In vedic astrology , Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote: > > JAI SRIRAM > > Dear Sri.Dakshinamoorthi, > > Some astrologers are saying signifactor(karaka) is the most important than house lord(stanathipathi) ,but some says in viceversa that though signifactor is powerful if house lord is not in good strength then no result... > > Please clarify. > > Thanks, > Venkatesh.S. > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Res. Pandit DAKSHINAMOORTHII Ji, You have given right direction to students of astrology. I w'd request you to take my own horoscope and make a reading why i couldn't get married and pls. tell if it is denied or if possible, when its going to happen in case it may happen, what are the chances with Saturns transit on Leo. My chart is as follows : DOB : 17-08-1972, TOB - 20:15 POB: Rewa, MP, India. Lagna - Meena no planet, 2nd house - mesha, no planet, 3rd house - Saturn, 4'th house - Venus, 5'th house - Mercurry + Ketu, 6'th house - Sun+Mars, 7'th house - no planet, 8'th house - No planet, 9'th house - Moon on Scorpio, 10'th house - Jupitor on Sagitarious, 11'th house - Rahu, 12'th house - No Planet. regards, Lalit Mishra. vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer " <dakshinastrologer wrote: > > Dear Member: > > Results cannot be easily compartmentalized like that in astrology. > We have to imbibe the whole picture and then predict using our > discretion. > > When judging any sector of life, the following factors are to be > considered: > > 1) Natural karaakas of the respective sectors (like Venus for wife, > Sun for father, etc.) > 2) Bhaava karakaas (Sun for ascendant, Jupiter for 2, 5, 11 houses, > etc.) > 3) Chara Kaarakaas (based on degree occupied by the planet) > 4) Planets placed in the respective houses ruling the sector of > life.--- (there could be multiple houses owning different aspects of > the same sector; for instance wealth can be read by 2, and 11th > houses; while 6th also should be considered for reading about debts; > all 3 should be considered while giving a financial analysis!). > 5) Strength of the house lords > 6) Aspects to the concerned house and the concerned house lord > 7) Argalaas (both positive and obstructing) > 8) Dispositor of the respective house lords > 9) Navamsa position of the house lord/ navamsa dispositor of the > respective house lord. > 10) Specific raaja yogaas that have a bearing on the sector we are > analyzing like (Guru-mangala yoga can show good results with regard > to property; so this impact should be studied in consonance with the > individual aspects of the respective lords). > > All these should be holistically assessed before coming to a > conclusion. Astrology is definitely not a child's play what with so > many factors to be juggled successfully and fixed in the proper > theoretical perspectives before coming to a reasonably accurate > conclusion. > > Considering only the sthira kaarakas/ chara Kaarakaas or the house > lord - and that too only considering their strength is too > simplistic and will lead us nowhere while predicting. Now, what > about the consideration of the placement of the kaarakaa and the > house lord? All these play a role. > > Arguing one or the other is the most important determinant is just > not correct. All these are important elements in a horoscope. Eyes > see the world; but it is the brain which processes the images. Can > you say that only the Eyes are important because they catch the > image, or can you say that only the Brain is important because it > processes the image? The truth is, for effective functioning > (translated to our scenario - for effective manifestation of good > results), they have to function in unison. They have their > respective roles to play and we have to judge how far they influence > the matter in hand. > > Blessed be. > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > In vedic astrology , Venkatesh S ksvssvk@ wrote: > > > > JAI SRIRAM > > > > Dear Sri.Dakshinamoorthi, > > > > Some astrologers are saying signifactor(karaka) is the most > important than house lord(stanathipathi) ,but some says in viceversa > that though signifactor is powerful if house lord is not in good > strength then no result... > > > > Please clarify. > > > > Thanks, > > Venkatesh.S. > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 JAI SRIRAM Dear Sri.Dakshinamoorthi, Inn case of remedies is it correct to take the significator(Bhava karaka) alone.For example if the 4th lord is weak/afflicted then the education is not good,so the 4th house Bhava karaka Mercury should be taken and Goddess Saraswathi is the best remedy like that.. instead of taken the deity of 4th lord. Thanks, Venkatesh.S. dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote: Dear Member: Results cannot be easily compartmentalized like that in astrology. We have to imbibe the whole picture and then predict using our discretion. When judging any sector of life, the following factors are to be considered: 1) Natural karaakas of the respective sectors (like Venus for wife, Sun for father, etc.) 2) Bhaava karakaas (Sun for ascendant, Jupiter for 2, 5, 11 houses, etc.) 3) Chara Kaarakaas (based on degree occupied by the planet) 4) Planets placed in the respective houses ruling the sector of life.--- (there could be multiple houses owning different aspects of the same sector; for instance wealth can be read by 2, and 11th houses; while 6th also should be considered for reading about debts; all 3 should be considered while giving a financial analysis!). 5) Strength of the house lords 6) Aspects to the concerned house and the concerned house lord 7) Argalaas (both positive and obstructing) 8) Dispositor of the respective house lords 9) Navamsa position of the house lord/ navamsa dispositor of the respective house lord. 10) Specific raaja yogaas that have a bearing on the sector we are analyzing like (Guru-mangala yoga can show good results with regard to property; so this impact should be studied in consonance with the individual aspects of the respective lords). All these should be holistically assessed before coming to a conclusion. Astrology is definitely not a child's play what with so many factors to be juggled successfully and fixed in the proper theoretical perspectives before coming to a reasonably accurate conclusion. Considering only the sthira kaarakas/ chara Kaarakaas or the house lord - and that too only considering their strength is too simplistic and will lead us nowhere while predicting. Now, what about the consideration of the placement of the kaarakaa and the house lord? All these play a role. Arguing one or the other is the most important determinant is just not correct. All these are important elements in a horoscope. Eyes see the world; but it is the brain which processes the images. Can you say that only the Eyes are important because they catch the image, or can you say that only the Brain is important because it processes the image? The truth is, for effective functioning (translated to our scenario - for effective manifestation of good results), they have to function in unison. They have their respective roles to play and we have to judge how far they influence the matter in hand. Blessed be. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. In vedic astrology , Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote: > > JAI SRIRAM > > Dear Sri.Dakshinamoorthi, > > Some astrologers are saying signifactor(karaka) is the most important than house lord(stanathipathi) ,but some says in viceversa that though signifactor is powerful if house lord is not in good strength then no result... > > Please clarify. > > Thanks, > Venkatesh.S. > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 *hraum namah adityaya* Dear Venkatesh, #1 All three can be taken: a) lord, b) bhava karaka c) Deity representing bhava. #2 Mercury is not the primary karaka of the forth bhava. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Venkatesh S napisa?(a): > > JAI SRIRAM > > Dear Sri.Dakshinamoorthi, > > Inn case of remedies is it correct to take the significator(Bhava > karaka) alone.For example if the 4th lord is weak/afflicted then the > education is not good,so the 4th house Bhava karaka Mercury should be > taken and Goddess Saraswathi is the best remedy like that.. instead of > taken the deity of 4th lord. > > Thanks, > Venkatesh.S. > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer > <dakshinastrologer%40.co.in>> wrote: > Dear Member: > > Results cannot be easily compartmentalized like that in astrology. > We have to imbibe the whole picture and then predict using our > discretion. > > When judging any sector of life, the following factors are to be > considered: > > 1) Natural karaakas of the respective sectors (like Venus for wife, > Sun for father, etc.) > 2) Bhaava karakaas (Sun for ascendant, Jupiter for 2, 5, 11 houses, > etc.) > 3) Chara Kaarakaas (based on degree occupied by the planet) > 4) Planets placed in the respective houses ruling the sector of > life.--- (there could be multiple houses owning different aspects of > the same sector; for instance wealth can be read by 2, and 11th > houses; while 6th also should be considered for reading about debts; > all 3 should be considered while giving a financial analysis!). > 5) Strength of the house lords > 6) Aspects to the concerned house and the concerned house lord > 7) Argalaas (both positive and obstructing) > 8) Dispositor of the respective house lords > 9) Navamsa position of the house lord/ navamsa dispositor of the > respective house lord. > 10) Specific raaja yogaas that have a bearing on the sector we are > analyzing like (Guru-mangala yoga can show good results with regard > to property; so this impact should be studied in consonance with the > individual aspects of the respective lords). > > All these should be holistically assessed before coming to a > conclusion. Astrology is definitely not a child's play what with so > many factors to be juggled successfully and fixed in the proper > theoretical perspectives before coming to a reasonably accurate > conclusion. > > Considering only the sthira kaarakas/ chara Kaarakaas or the house > lord - and that too only considering their strength is too > simplistic and will lead us nowhere while predicting. Now, what > about the consideration of the placement of the kaarakaa and the > house lord? All these play a role. > > Arguing one or the other is the most important determinant is just > not correct. All these are important elements in a horoscope. Eyes > see the world; but it is the brain which processes the images. Can > you say that only the Eyes are important because they catch the > image, or can you say that only the Brain is important because it > processes the image? The truth is, for effective functioning > (translated to our scenario - for effective manifestation of good > results), they have to function in unison. They have their > respective roles to play and we have to judge how far they influence > the matter in hand. > > Blessed be. > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > In vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>, Venkatesh S <ksvssvk > wrote: > > > > JAI SRIRAM > > > > Dear Sri.Dakshinamoorthi, > > > > Some astrologers are saying signifactor(karaka) is the most > important than house lord(stanathipathi) ,but some says in viceversa > that though signifactor is powerful if house lord is not in good > strength then no result... > > > > Please clarify. > > > > Thanks, > > Venkatesh.S. > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 JAI SRIRAM Dear Rafel, I mentioned about education,so that Mercury came into picture. Thanks, Venkatesh.S. Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: *hraum namah adityaya* Dear Venkatesh, #1 All three can be taken: a) lord, b) bhava karaka c) Deity representing bhava. #2 Mercury is not the primary karaka of the forth bhava. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Venkatesh S napisa?(a): > > JAI SRIRAM > > Dear Sri.Dakshinamoorthi, > > Inn case of remedies is it correct to take the significator(Bhava > karaka) alone.For example if the 4th lord is weak/afflicted then the > education is not good,so the 4th house Bhava karaka Mercury should be > taken and Goddess Saraswathi is the best remedy like that.. instead of > taken the deity of 4th lord. > > Thanks, > Venkatesh.S. > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer > <dakshinastrologer%40.co.in>> wrote: > Dear Member: > > Results cannot be easily compartmentalized like that in astrology. > We have to imbibe the whole picture and then predict using our > discretion. > > When judging any sector of life, the following factors are to be > considered: > > 1) Natural karaakas of the respective sectors (like Venus for wife, > Sun for father, etc.) > 2) Bhaava karakaas (Sun for ascendant, Jupiter for 2, 5, 11 houses, > etc.) > 3) Chara Kaarakaas (based on degree occupied by the planet) > 4) Planets placed in the respective houses ruling the sector of > life.--- (there could be multiple houses owning different aspects of > the same sector; for instance wealth can be read by 2, and 11th > houses; while 6th also should be considered for reading about debts; > all 3 should be considered while giving a financial analysis!). > 5) Strength of the house lords > 6) Aspects to the concerned house and the concerned house lord > 7) Argalaas (both positive and obstructing) > 8) Dispositor of the respective house lords > 9) Navamsa position of the house lord/ navamsa dispositor of the > respective house lord. > 10) Specific raaja yogaas that have a bearing on the sector we are > analyzing like (Guru-mangala yoga can show good results with regard > to property; so this impact should be studied in consonance with the > individual aspects of the respective lords). > > All these should be holistically assessed before coming to a > conclusion. Astrology is definitely not a child's play what with so > many factors to be juggled successfully and fixed in the proper > theoretical perspectives before coming to a reasonably accurate > conclusion. > > Considering only the sthira kaarakas/ chara Kaarakaas or the house > lord - and that too only considering their strength is too > simplistic and will lead us nowhere while predicting. Now, what > about the consideration of the placement of the kaarakaa and the > house lord? All these play a role. > > Arguing one or the other is the most important determinant is just > not correct. All these are important elements in a horoscope. Eyes > see the world; but it is the brain which processes the images. Can > you say that only the Eyes are important because they catch the > image, or can you say that only the Brain is important because it > processes the image? The truth is, for effective functioning > (translated to our scenario - for effective manifestation of good > results), they have to function in unison. They have their > respective roles to play and we have to judge how far they influence > the matter in hand. > > Blessed be. > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > In vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>, Venkatesh S <ksvssvk > wrote: > > > > JAI SRIRAM > > > > Dear Sri.Dakshinamoorthi, > > > > Some astrologers are saying signifactor(karaka) is the most > important than house lord(stanathipathi) ,but some says in viceversa > that though signifactor is powerful if house lord is not in good > strength then no result... > > > > Please clarify. > > > > Thanks, > > Venkatesh.S. > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 *hraum namah adityaya* Dear Venkatesh, Depends what You want to do. Adhi devata of forth bhava will start education, pratyadhi will correct affliction (but also of forth bhava). Strenghting Budha will be the same for all natives (because now we exclude houses) so it will be general. Better to be specfic. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Venkatesh S napisa?(a): > > JAI SRIRAM > > Dear Rafel, > > I mentioned about education,so that Mercury came into picture. > > Thanks, > Venkatesh.S. > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme <starsuponme%40wp.pl>> wrote: > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Venkatesh, > > #1 All three can be taken: a) lord, b) bhava karaka c) Deity > representing bhava. > > #2 Mercury is not the primary karaka of the forth bhava. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal <rafal%40rohinaa.com> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > Venkatesh S napisa?(a): > > > > JAI SRIRAM > > > > Dear Sri.Dakshinamoorthi, > > > > Inn case of remedies is it correct to take the significator(Bhava > > karaka) alone.For example if the 4th lord is weak/afflicted then the > > education is not good,so the 4th house Bhava karaka Mercury should be > > taken and Goddess Saraswathi is the best remedy like that.. instead of > > taken the deity of 4th lord. > > > > Thanks, > > Venkatesh.S. > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer > <dakshinastrologer%40.co.in> > > <dakshinastrologer%40.co.in>> wrote: > > Dear Member: > > > > Results cannot be easily compartmentalized like that in astrology. > > We have to imbibe the whole picture and then predict using our > > discretion. > > > > When judging any sector of life, the following factors are to be > > considered: > > > > 1) Natural karaakas of the respective sectors (like Venus for wife, > > Sun for father, etc.) > > 2) Bhaava karakaas (Sun for ascendant, Jupiter for 2, 5, 11 houses, > > etc.) > > 3) Chara Kaarakaas (based on degree occupied by the planet) > > 4) Planets placed in the respective houses ruling the sector of > > life.--- (there could be multiple houses owning different aspects of > > the same sector; for instance wealth can be read by 2, and 11th > > houses; while 6th also should be considered for reading about debts; > > all 3 should be considered while giving a financial analysis!). > > 5) Strength of the house lords > > 6) Aspects to the concerned house and the concerned house lord > > 7) Argalaas (both positive and obstructing) > > 8) Dispositor of the respective house lords > > 9) Navamsa position of the house lord/ navamsa dispositor of the > > respective house lord. > > 10) Specific raaja yogaas that have a bearing on the sector we are > > analyzing like (Guru-mangala yoga can show good results with regard > > to property; so this impact should be studied in consonance with the > > individual aspects of the respective lords). > > > > All these should be holistically assessed before coming to a > > conclusion. Astrology is definitely not a child's play what with so > > many factors to be juggled successfully and fixed in the proper > > theoretical perspectives before coming to a reasonably accurate > > conclusion. > > > > Considering only the sthira kaarakas/ chara Kaarakaas or the house > > lord - and that too only considering their strength is too > > simplistic and will lead us nowhere while predicting. Now, what > > about the consideration of the placement of the kaarakaa and the > > house lord? All these play a role. > > > > Arguing one or the other is the most important determinant is just > > not correct. All these are important elements in a horoscope. Eyes > > see the world; but it is the brain which processes the images. Can > > you say that only the Eyes are important because they catch the > > image, or can you say that only the Brain is important because it > > processes the image? The truth is, for effective functioning > > (translated to our scenario - for effective manifestation of good > > results), they have to function in unison. They have their > > respective roles to play and we have to judge how far they influence > > the matter in hand. > > > > Blessed be. > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > In vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40> > > <vedic astrology%40>, Venkatesh S <ksvssvk > > wrote: > > > > > > JAI SRIRAM > > > > > > Dear Sri.Dakshinamoorthi, > > > > > > Some astrologers are saying signifactor(karaka) is the most > > important than house lord(stanathipathi) ,but some says in viceversa > > that though signifactor is powerful if house lord is not in good > > strength then no result... > > > > > > Please clarify. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Venkatesh.S. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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