Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Dear Dakshinamurthy-ji, thanks for the post and that too with a lot more I had left out say Srirangam, kanchivaram , Madurai ones I have heard others I have not. I made a TYPOS -drik is like 1+1=2 the typing came as 1+0=2 is by oversight. I had a very long heated argument with a grandson of Chakravarthy Rajagopalachari when he called me to inquire if I could give him a print out of a comupterised Vakya panchanga based horoscope, I gave him same answer as I have seen many who came to earlier who put Sani in Kataka for 1975 birth when it is in Mithuna for any ephemeris, ayanamsa one sees. HE QUESTIONED ME WHAT I KNEW OF VAKYA TO SAY THAT. asked me to study vedas and then comment I said am welcome if anyone teaches me them. it was his line that no retrogression is considered only one motion forward dates are taken I quoted, rest time has told me that no corrections are done by vested, lazy and incompetent practioners of vakya who sue their family name to push it across not knowing that they will kill the culture, concepts this way.they can make moneyfor sometime but how long...? another case I can quote is a 63 born person whos chart had Mars in Simha when in drik it is in Kanya, one can see any eclipse from the various Vakyas it is absardly wrong as NO EFFORT has been made to correct it, in spite of in built systems in it, and to sell it as a brand product is killing it we are no different if we follow it , like the Mullah's Shai Imam of dedlhi will see the crecent of the moon on one day and the Iman of madras will see it another day when we are in the same country and almost within 8 minutes of IST correction how can days differ our vedic system is self corrective in right hands, by not doing it we are as bad as unrefined religious preaching, practices and yuou have highlited corectly the higher mantra siddhi or vratas or even shradhas will go wrong if we don't follow a verifable panchanga, lahiris at least is not bad, our tradition is more based onSurya siddhanta which is cloe to ramans by 20 odd minutes, but no harm if we use LAHIRI as a standard at least error level is minimum and it is high time the priests of TN modernise them and stop misleading the nation that they r really traditional when they r not , max they r stuck in the well for too long. Tirumala tirupathi devesthanam, =TTD publishes a panchaga, EXPRESS group publishes them too , rashtriya panchanga is published by Govt of India all ARE of same standard and worth following as are available in various languages. before I forget dump vakysas in the nearest dust bins.[if corrections are not done] Best wishes G B Prashant Kumar dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer vedic astrology Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:30:31 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Tamil Panchang 11/7 Dear Shri. Prashant: You have explained it nicely. Vaakya means " formulae " . Vaakya panchangs are calculated based on ancient siddhanta aphorisms. Due to the precession of equinoxes and other celestial and intra-planetary influences, there have been differences between the vaakya longitudes and actual observed longitudes of planets. In ancient India, there was a system of correcting those positions by taking measurement with gnomons (the magic wand type of short stick you might see Namboodri astrologers carrying with them! - to measure equinoctical shadow on a day). If such a correction is applied to vaakya statements, you will arrive at the exact drig ganitha sputams of the planets. However, all this is not necessary now-a-days with exact longitudes being given in ephemerides and various Drik-based almanacs. These are correct astronomically. In fact, even temples should be encouraged to follow the drik ganitha based panchangs only for festivals because there are clear rules regarding determination of various festivals based on astronomical phenomena (like what time a thithi should operate for a festival or fast to be celebrated on a particular day). As Vaakyas sometimes vary too much from drik-ganitha positions, the thithi itself might differ leading to error in important festivals/ fasts. A normal aspirant may not find much difference in this; but those in advanced stages of mantra shastra cannot afford to ignore such discrepancies because there are certain karanas (half of thithi) which are known to be dangerous for practices like kaaya siddhi, parakaaya pravesham, etc. If such a practitioner is misled to practise his experiments in dangerous karanas due to the wrong panchang, the results can be disastrous. Even for the common man relying on the panchang, it can make him follow the days wrongly (for instance, ashtami might have begun already while the vaakya may still persist with sapthami thithi; the common believer might assume the day is good while in fact the ugra thithi might have commenced to his detriment). The list is endless.... It is in the best interests of everyone to follow Drik-ganitha based panchags with chitra-paksha ayanamasa (which comes most near the perfect values; the ayanamsa is another vexed issue with countless values being propounded by various experts; chitra paksha ayanamasa by Lahiri et tal is the generally accepted one; at least the errors if any will be marginal and can be attributed to Hand of God if at all they occur!) Blessed be Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic astrology, Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti@.. .> wrote: > > Venketesan > > ur post is not right , max partly > > only Major planets, Guru, Sani, are in same sign as 60 yrs ago and sun if same month is taken there is nothing spl of tamil panchanga all Hindu -vedic panchangs follow that 60 yr cycle > > only diff is tamils mostly use diff Vakya panchangams more than drik > > drik is 1+0-2 Vakya is u can attribute anyting to a said position it is what a family of astrologer has said no corrections r made by many of them as in vakya itself u find many varients > > drik will be consistant > > Vakya is also right if corrections r taken regularly all festivals are done in Vakya dates > > Vakya has no retrogression dates also it takes the time a planet finally moves to next sign in between athichara, next sign entry, sthira, vakra then sthira and then back to normal motions are all skipped just the last date when we see in drik as the date it is going to next sign some take that dates [if corected else many differ wildly take an eclipse from a vakya panchange and see the time they give is mostly erratic, eclipse is over a drik one gives u near perfect one. > > best wishes > > G B Prashant Kumar > > Pl give personal data with some verifable life events with dates=jobs, marriage, family, kids, high/low times. Picture or 2 to personal ID pkgoteti , for Lagna features check. > Services of this astrologer in the group only are free, personal consultations ARE CHARGEABLE! Mobile 09840051861 Chennai, India > > > Venkatesh S <ksvssvk > > vedic astrology > Cc: dakshinastrologer@ ... > Wednesday, July 11, 2007 4:25:45 PM > [vedic astrology] Tamil Panchang > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JAI SRIRAM > > > > Dear Sri.Dakshinamoorthi , > > > > According to Tamil Panchang,there are 60 years,as per this Tamil Panchang Vakya syatem is calculated the planetry positions, > > so for every 60 years the same planetry positions are repeated as per Vakya system. > > Is it really correct and how Drik has different from this? > > > > Thanks, > > Venkatesh.S. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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