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Dear Dakshinamurthy-ji,

 

thanks for the post and that too with a lot more I had left out say Srirangam,

kanchivaram , Madurai ones I have heard others I have not.

 

I made a TYPOS -drik is like 1+1=2 the typing came as 1+0=2 is by oversight.

 

I had a very long heated argument with a grandson of Chakravarthy

Rajagopalachari when he called me to inquire if I could give him a print out of

a comupterised Vakya panchanga based horoscope, I gave him same answer as I have

seen many who came to earlier who put Sani in Kataka for 1975 birth when it is

in Mithuna for any ephemeris, ayanamsa one sees.

 

HE QUESTIONED ME WHAT I KNEW OF VAKYA TO SAY THAT. asked me to study vedas and

then comment I said am welcome if anyone teaches me them.

 

it was his line that no retrogression is considered only one motion forward

dates are taken I quoted, rest time has told me that no corrections are done by

vested, lazy and incompetent practioners of vakya who sue their family name to

push it across not knowing that they will kill the culture, concepts this

way.they can make moneyfor sometime but how long...?

 

 

another case I can quote is a 63 born person whos chart had Mars in Simha when

in drik it is in Kanya, one can see any eclipse from the various Vakyas it is

absardly wrong as NO EFFORT has been made to correct it, in spite of in built

systems in it, and to sell it as a brand product is killing it we are no

different if we follow it , like the Mullah's Shai Imam of dedlhi will see the

crecent of the moon on one day and the Iman of madras will see it another day

when we are in the same country and almost within 8 minutes of IST correction

how can days differ our vedic system is self corrective in right hands, by not

doing it we are as bad as unrefined religious preaching, practices

 

and yuou have highlited corectly the higher mantra siddhi or vratas or even

shradhas will go wrong if we don't follow a verifable panchanga, lahiris at

least is not bad, our tradition is more based onSurya siddhanta which is cloe to

ramans by 20 odd minutes, but no harm if we use LAHIRI as a standard at least

error level is minimum

 

and it is high time the priests of TN modernise them and stop misleading the

nation that they r really traditional when they r not , max they r stuck in the

well for too long.

 

Tirumala tirupathi devesthanam, =TTD publishes a panchaga, EXPRESS group

publishes them too , rashtriya panchanga is published by Govt of India all ARE

of same standard and worth following as are available in various languages.

 

before I forget dump vakysas in the nearest dust bins.[if corrections are not

done]

 

Best wishes

 

G B Prashant Kumar

 

 

 

dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer

vedic astrology

Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:30:31 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Tamil Panchang 11/7

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Shri. Prashant:

 

 

 

You have explained it nicely.

 

 

 

Vaakya means " formulae " . Vaakya panchangs are calculated based on

 

ancient siddhanta aphorisms. Due to the precession of equinoxes and

 

other celestial and intra-planetary influences, there have been

 

differences between the vaakya longitudes and actual observed

 

longitudes of planets. In ancient India, there was a system of

 

correcting those positions by taking measurement with gnomons (the

 

magic wand type of short stick you might see Namboodri astrologers

 

carrying with them! - to measure equinoctical shadow on a day). If

 

such a correction is applied to vaakya statements, you will arrive

 

at the exact drig ganitha sputams of the planets. However, all this

 

is not necessary now-a-days with exact longitudes being given in

 

ephemerides and various Drik-based almanacs. These are correct

 

astronomically.

 

 

 

In fact, even temples should be encouraged to follow the drik

 

ganitha based panchangs only for festivals because there are clear

 

rules regarding determination of various festivals based on

 

astronomical phenomena (like what time a thithi should operate for a

 

festival or fast to be celebrated on a particular day). As Vaakyas

 

sometimes vary too much from drik-ganitha positions, the thithi

 

itself might differ leading to error in important festivals/ fasts.

 

A normal aspirant may not find much difference in this; but those in

 

advanced stages of mantra shastra cannot afford to ignore such

 

discrepancies because there are certain karanas (half of thithi)

 

which are known to be dangerous for practices like kaaya siddhi,

 

parakaaya pravesham, etc. If such a practitioner is misled to

 

practise his experiments in dangerous karanas due to the wrong

 

panchang, the results can be disastrous. Even for the common man

 

relying on the panchang, it can make him follow the days wrongly

 

(for instance, ashtami might have begun already while the vaakya may

 

still persist with sapthami thithi; the common believer might assume

 

the day is good while in fact the ugra thithi might have commenced

 

to his detriment). The list is endless....

 

 

 

It is in the best interests of everyone to follow Drik-ganitha based

 

panchags with chitra-paksha ayanamasa (which comes most near the

 

perfect values; the ayanamsa is another vexed issue with countless

 

values being propounded by various experts; chitra paksha ayanamasa

 

by Lahiri et tal is the generally accepted one; at least the errors

 

if any will be marginal and can be attributed to Hand of God if at

 

all they occur!)

 

 

 

Blessed be

 

Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Me Shubha Vela

 

<pkgoteti@.. .> wrote:

 

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> Venketesan

 

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> ur post is not right , max partly

 

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> only Major planets, Guru, Sani, are in same sign as 60 yrs ago and

 

sun if same month is taken there is nothing spl of tamil panchanga

 

all Hindu -vedic panchangs follow that 60 yr cycle

 

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> only diff is tamils mostly use diff Vakya panchangams more than

 

drik

 

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> drik is 1+0-2 Vakya is u can attribute anyting to a said position

 

it is what a family of astrologer has said no corrections r made by

 

many of them as in vakya itself u find many varients

 

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> drik will be consistant

 

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> Vakya is also right if corrections r taken regularly all festivals

 

are done in Vakya dates

 

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> Vakya has no retrogression dates also it takes the time a planet

 

finally moves to next sign in between athichara, next sign entry,

 

sthira, vakra then sthira and then back to normal motions are all

 

skipped just the last date when we see in drik as the date it is

 

going to next sign some take that dates [if corected else many

 

differ wildly take an eclipse from a vakya panchange and see the

 

time they give is mostly erratic, eclipse is over a drik one gives u

 

near perfect one.

 

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> best wishes

 

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> G B Prashant Kumar

 

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> Pl give personal data with some verifable life events with

 

dates=jobs, marriage, family, kids, high/low times. Picture or 2 to

 

personal ID pkgoteti , for Lagna features check.

 

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> Venkatesh S <ksvssvk >

 

> vedic astrology

 

> Cc: dakshinastrologer@ ...

 

> Wednesday, July 11, 2007 4:25:45 PM

 

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> Dear Sri.Dakshinamoorthi ,

 

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> According to Tamil Panchang,there are 60 years,as per

 

this Tamil Panchang Vakya syatem is calculated the planetry

 

positions,

 

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> so for every 60 years the same planetry positions are repeated

 

as per Vakya system.

 

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> Is it really correct and how Drik has different from this?

 

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