Some nuances on prashna chart involving entities

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Respected Mohanraaamji, and Dear Lalith:

 

I wish to bring the following to your attention. Lalith, you keep

on persisting that Panditji refused to share prashna chart with

you......In occult matters - especially - concerning Paisacha

baadha, even the astrologer is at risk and is bound by certain rules

to safeguard himself/ in some cases his very life. The backlash of

karmic forces on an astrologer's life can never be compensated by

the " pittance " you would have paid and don't think you can

demand " everything " from the astrologer putting him and you in peril

in the process (even if you had paid ten thousand rupees to Guruji

it is still a pittance compared to the risk involved in dealing with

an entity; I think Guruji might not have charged you that much,

because he would have intended it to be a mere marital

counselling)......

 

If you want the view of another expert - the respected Shri.

K.N.Rao, kindly read this - what he has to say about Ramal

prashna .....

 

--

 

" 4. Ramal It is strictly not astrology as we do it, but in northern

India it is equated with Prashna of astrology and is a superb method

of answering questions. It is done with dices and a diagram usually

stitched on to a piece of cloth. I learnt it practically from an

adept in this line and decided not to do it. Anyone who knows

astrology can pick it up fast. Two pre-conditions here are that one

must potentise a mantra for it (empowering a mantra) and the dice

must be got prepared according to a religious practice on a

particular tithi. Some people of Rajasthan say that curses fall on

the families of those who do Ramal successfully. There are said to

be many families in Rajasthan which were ruined because someone in

the family did Ramal successfully "

 

--

 

Such are the risks an astrologer or fortune-teller undergoes while

giving predictions & clients should respect the sentiments and

traditions of these persons. Consumerism does not help here because

you are receiving more than you can ever pay for!....Panditji

believes that astrology can infact be good for astrologers also

because it helps you to do more sadhanas for helping persons. Such

an outlook helps both the astrologer and the client to live peaceful

lives. (Astrologers here need not worry that practising astrology

will ruin their family; No! Ethical astrologers who maintain

certain taboos according to traditions can actually prosper well and

gain religious merit also. This is unequivocally stated by great

Stalwarts like Shri Varaahamihira who goes to the extent of

saying " A good astrologer will never be found in hell " )

 

Like that even in prashna, if certain precautions are not taken, the

astrologer himself might be ruined. And, the astrologer will be

bound by the promises he might have given to the entity while making

a pact with the entity (Guruji in all probability would have made a

pact with entity " commanding " it to leave the Earth Plane for which

it would have again demanded some concessions like " not exorcising

it with force " , " not revealing its nature or the chart to others "

(this prashna chart can be utilized by you to exorcise it violently

with the help of other tantriks), etc.). So, if the " entity " had

promised something and had surrendered based on certain conditions

before the Divine Power of Guruji - he is bound to keep up the

secrecy and he is honour-bound not to reveal the details to anyone -

including yourself.

 

As he constantly keeps harping on saying " I did with best of

intentions " again and again without revealing anything technical, I

am sure that it is something like that. So, he will not and should

not reveal those secrets. Kindly understand that. As Guruji is a

Vaidic Brahmin - he does only Saatwik poojas and controls the

entities compassionately without letting them harm you and without

torturing them also. His requests are obeyed by the entities due to

the power of his Gayathri sadhana and shiva pooja. (I have the

personal experience of witnessing the activities of an entity in a

Deva Prashnam in a Bhagavathy temple near Trichur; Guruji's

intervention only could control that entity. All the violent and

major keralite tantriks could not do that; they were all hurt by

that entity - the prashna plank itself was destroyed and thrown at

the face of the Presiding Prashnakarta and then Panditji was called

to intervene. His very intervention brought a calming influence on

the entity and he made a pact listening to its woes and then

ordering it to leave the place based on certain conditions it

imposed for its salvation). Another interesting piece of information

about this.....Guruji did not come personally to the place.....He

did the sadhana from his very residence based on the request of the

chief prashna karta who made a desperate call to Guruji....I was on

the spot of the prashnam, and I am a first hand witness to all the

havoc that the entity heaped on the astrologers assembled in that

temple. The list of mantrikas present there was quite impressive

and they were all experts in mantra shaastra - not novices or

upstarts...Everyone was a respected and feared mantrika, and yet it

gave them a run for their worth! This saatwik Guru's very

intervention by prayers did the trick even without his presence!

 

Guruji does not accept " rakta Bali " (animal sacrifice or blood-

letting). He instead ties the entity to pacts concerning Coconut

offerings, lemons, flowers, or sumangali pooja for the peace of the

entity and to enable the entity to leave the Earth Plane happily so

that it can take the next cycle of evolution as a normal being to

try for its salvation. In all these cases, he gives only the

remedies to the querents, and what transpires between those entities

and himself is never known to anybody including his closest family

members. Nobody has ever doubted him or his motives when he said

anything.

 

This is just to enlighten this group on some very sensitive aspects

of prashna which are not known to the rank and file of modern

astrologers. Natal astrology and the discussions we are generally

having in these forums are like " one day match " . Prashna shastra in

its advanced forms is like " test of fire " - playing a Test match

against the Caribbean Pace Bowlers of the 70s without helmets, arm

guards, and groin guards! The likelihood of your getting hit and

mauled, and being down with serious injuries is high - nay very high!

 

And when an astrologer has passed such a test of fire and has come

out with a solution, it is not good etiquettes to keep commenting as

if he has provided deficient service (This is for Shri. Lalith

Mishra). I am sure nobody else in these forums has expertise in

Ashtamangala prashna and the still higher forms involving use of

occult powers to control entities. Maybe, Keralite astrologers like

Shri. Sunil Nair, researchers like Prashant Kumar Aiyya, occultists

like Pandit Arjunji who himself has a reputation regarding dealing

with entities and experienced astrologers like Karunakaram Aiyaa

will know about the possibility; but I doubt (with due respect to

all these astrologers and possibly more experts here! pardon me if I

have left out any other senior astrologer in this list; it was

unintentional), if even these senior astrologers can

handle " entities " .

 

So, you are doubtless lucky in having got a good service. Just

follow Guruji's suggestions in toto, and see what happens. The

slightest slip in the following up of his suggestions can nullify

the remedies (the entities are clever in making you fail in these so

that they can wriggle out of the pact). It was based on that pact

that Guruji would have told about the Feb 2008 period (he would have

been initially hesitant because what is the guarantee that you will

be able to complete the remedies correctly?)

 

I think the logic of his arriving at the date would now be obvious

to you. I am sure Panditji would not have wanted to give the date

himself and only due to your persistent pressures, he would have

come up with that date. Now the ball is in your court. Instead of

getting hurt and hurting others with these exchanges, concentrate on

the sadhanas recommended to you. The result ultimately depends on

you.

 

Do not enter into arguments with Mohanraaam yogi; he should not have

used some rough words, but his respect for Guruji and his knowledge

what risks Guruji would have taken to help you have instigated him

to speak roughly. Please Mohanraaamji, as Sunilji has requested

rightly, leave this matter here and let us forgive Shri. Lalith; in

fact, Mohanraaamji please follow Guruji's example and Bless Lalith

in the success of his remedies which are so vital for his happy

life. Once he gets a happy life, he will probably remember the

service rendered by Panditji with gratitude. Now, he may be

frustrated and not in a mood to listen to all these. Please Bless

him and pray for him.

 

Best wishes.

Abhishek Potti.

vedic astrology , " mohanraaam "

<mohanraaam wrote:

>

> Dear Lalith:

>

> Can you post in the forum Panditji's mail where you claim he has

> written he is a VVIP? This must be a blatant lie. Pandit

> Dakshinamoorthiji is not one to write like that! This is a

blatant

> lie! I am sure. If Panditji has really claimed he is a VVIP, I

> will take back all that I have written to you.

>

> He has never given his phone no. to anyone in this list. So, what

> special previlege do you think you have got you faggot? Does he

not

> have a right for his own privacy?

>

> What will happen to his sanity if he starts getting your idiotic

> phone calls on top of your stupid mails?

>

> He would have repeatedly written to you only in reply. You would

> have pestered him and he would have replied. You idiot have

failed

> to understand the decency of an astrologer when he has hinted at

> your problems diplomatically, and now you claim " he changed lines "

> as if he is a cheat!

>

> I do not know how long you are associated with this

group.......Ask

> any forum member here whether Panditji is a person who changes

tack

> like that. In fact he is one of the more honest astrologers who

> admits that he has made a mistake if ever he has made one! But,

you

> are almost putting words into his mouth, and depicting as if he

has

> failed in his predictions.

>

> Truth to be told, Panditji would have felt no hope in your

situation

> unless you change yourself; and he would not have seen any

> possibility for that also. Hence he would have been at a loss of

> words as to what to do. Collaring an astrologer when he is trying

> to soothen you with some hopeful predictions is really rude.

>

> Panditji is too senior and respected; otherwise, I would have

> written to him directly regarding this matter and known what is

all

> this......But, believing an idiot like you and enquiring with a

> senior astrologer is not possible.

>

> I again challenge you......show us the mail where Panditji claimed

> hs is VVIP......You liar.....know whom you are accusing!

>

> Mohanraaam.-- In vedic astrology , " litsol "

> <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > What to say u old man, U have lost power to understand :

> >

> > I gave him my own resume, all my projects that i did, simply

gave

> him.

> >

> > Now, I have all rights to call u " Idiot " . U r too full of

> urself, A

> > blind man with heap of false EGO,what happened to me, I shared

> with u

> > and all, still u see, i m telling lies, m criminal. Constantly u

r

> > advancing with ur poor logic and handful knowledge to blame me

for

> > everything.

> >

> > So, you are here to advocate pandit ji, I have not said a single

> word

> > against him and u are abusing me constantly, I have posted my

birth

> > details in the group: - 17 -08-1972, 08:15 PM at Rewa (M.P) and

> sent to

> > pandit ji, if u r using that to tell there is some debilitated

> planet,

> > not a strange for a man like u to play tricks.

> >

> > I purchased a service, didn't complain any thing to any one,

just

> asked

> > a phone no. to remove my doubts, It was my fault coz the Pandit

Ji

> was

> > VVIP, it is his right to not to give me his phone and i have no

> rights.

> > stop it and don't try to be smart. Ok, i still compromised and

> became

> > happy with the sound file, he sent to me after i informed him

> about my

> > difficulty on a portion of mantra. No problems, but i said, this

> created

> > a difference in between.

> >

> > I m still not saying what pandit ji saw and what he didnt, But

he

> mailed

> > me constantly saying, it was my bad karma of previous birth,

very

> normal

> > and very general, every second person w'd tell same, but when i

> informed

> > him about some spirit, he changed his line and said he has

already

> seen

> > it, I agreed to this also, but i thought it's an important

> information,

> > better to keep it in the record, he denied to give this also,

with

> no

> > reason. he said he wont give, still i was not complaining any

> thing,

> > just asked him once more for same prashna, he didn't tell any

> reason and

> > told that he is a VVIP, he wont give what he doesnt want. I

didn't

> > complain.

> >

> > And finally, He posted part of my mail to the group without

> informing

> > me, without seeking my consent and at the same time, he didnt

> forget

> > accusing me that i will disclose his precious techniques in the

> group,

> > mind u idiot, on the one hand he is doing same thing and on the

> other he

> > accused me saying - i may do it, and who did that - Pandit Ji ?

> >

> > And u are here to call me mad. U dont deserve any respect. There

> is no

> > value of ur Age and Experience, Yes, i should call u idiot. You

> want to

> > twist ethics , u cant. u want to use a handful knowledge to twist

> > ethics, u cant.

> >

> > I said something in general about Vedanga, or Vedic Granthas, U

> poker,

> > entering into classification, definition.

> >

> > U want to challange me, for what ? instead of taking the

challange

> or

> > trying to understand what i m saying, what i m sharing openly, u

> keep

> > abusing me.

> >

> > U put me a lot of pain and insult, I dont know if a handfull

> knowledge

> > makes a man like u, Can u tell me where is Priya and can u help

me

> > establish a contact with her, for what, i was craving whole

year,

> that u

> > cant, u wont. coz u r fake.

> >

> > I cant write regards to u. Ok,

> >

> > Lalit.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam "

<mohanraaam@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lalith:

> > >

> > > You have written " Panditji did not write about spirits but you

> told

> > > him.... " But from what he has posted, he had already found it

out

> > > and was not sharing it with you. He had suggested remedies

> > > inclusive of that which is more important. A person of his

> stature

> > > need not try to " prove " his skills by giving shocking

> predictions.

> > > Experts of his calibre definitely are very subtle. In fact the

> > > words " you have to balance your karma of previous lives " that

you

> > > claim he was harping on refers to this ghostly apparition. In

> your

> > > half-baked brain, it did not strike; that is all.

> > >

> > > Again, you claim that you are " helping " nature; and see the

> evidence

> > > you give for that......you have given all the projects that

you

> did

> > > under somebody's resume to " help " him. Legally, my friend, you

> are

> > > not a helper but a " CRIMINAL " . No wonder with all your lies you

> > > cannot share positive vibes with Panditji who never tells lies!

> > >

> > > You claim " shani " visited you; why don't you claim Lord Shiva

> > > visited you! You are mad young man! If you had really had

vision

> > > of Lord Shani it would have been shown in the prashna chart

that

> you

> > > are a Divine personality. You probably have debilitated

planets

> in

> > > your 9th house. You have delusions of spirituality.

> > >

> > > You have written " You do not differentiate knowledge " ; but you

> have

> > > no rights to declassify what ancient people have classified

with

> a

> > > purpose. Vedangas, shaastras, all might be one for you; but

they

> > > have differnet purposes. Do not try to sit in judgment over the

> > > wisdom of the great Seers and Saints who did tapasya before

> giving

> > > those wonderful shastras to us.

> > >

> > > You have said you have learnt some vedas to search at your

> Brahmin

> > > roots. You have definitely not learnt under a competent person

or

> > > as usual, you have not imbibed the essence of the teachings

well.

> > > Vedas are oceanic and the little spec of knowledge you have in

> that

> > > does not qualify you to speak like this.

> > >

> > > " Hitham poorva aachaarya vaakyena " means " welfare comes by

> following

> > > the words of ancient Masters " is a known Dharma shastraic

> injunction.

> > >

> > > You can research on things, you can analyze things with an open

> > > mind; but do so with a reverential attitude and not with the

> > > assumption " that in India they did not spread knowledge, etc. "

> The

> > > saints have purposefully hidden some powerful knowledge

sources

> so

> > > that they are not misused by half-baked morons. You see,

knowing

> > > some part of vedas makes you think that you are qualified to

> comment

> > > on that.....it is precisely to avoid such calamities, that

> ancients

> > > hid powerful arts. Those arts in the hands of good persons can

> > > benefit many, while they will become subjects of mockery in the

> > > hands of those who do not appreciate their Divinity.

> > >

> > > You have written " My Ego has made me angry " ...what is there

young

> > > man? I got angry not because you attacked me or even Panditji;

> but

> > > because you have attacked this Divine Art and are remorseless.

> > >

> > > Please do not say that Shani spoke to you; you may be put into

an

> > > asylum for Paronia, Delusional Disorder, schizoid personality

> > > disorder, etc.

> > >

> > > I sincerely apologize to the list for having written such a

> personal

> > > mail in this list, but this man cannot go unchallenged after

he

> has

> > > attempted to malign Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji - a noble soul

who

> is

> > > the pride of this group, and who I am sure - is considered as a

> > > Blessing to this group by many members. I have nothing

personal

> in

> > > this. Even if this person had called me an " idiot " or even in

> > > unparliamentary language, I would have forgiven him; but his

> > > irreverential attitude towards astrology and Panditji has

really

> put

> > > me off and prompted me in this exchange.

> > >

> > > No matter what he writes, I will not reply henceforth.

> > >

> > > Mohanraaam.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " litsol " mishra.lalit@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mohanraaam - Yogi,

> > > >

> > > > Your are so angry, what causes anger, a hurt ego... nothing

> else.

> > > >

> > > > Even u have addressed your mail to Mr. Abhishek, while

replying

> > > to me.

> > > > Pls. cool down.

> > > > I have told u about " P - Priya and Preeti ... " .

> > > >

> > > > The first half part of ur findings is true, how much true, I

> will

> > > tell u

> > > > - " I knew two girls, whose name begins with 'P', one is

Preeti

> and

> > > other

> > > > is Priya " . right, I m not like u, i mean, a man who is

caught

> up

> > > in

> > > > abundance of EGO, have confidence to accept the truth upto

> where

> > > it is

> > > > true.

> > > >

> > > > Preeti is a Biotech student and she contacted me after she

saw

> my

> > > > profile in the net, She is taller than me and 9 yrs younger

to

> me,

> > > > still, wanted to proceed towards marriage, I thought this

may

> look

> > > good

> > > > today but tomorrow may not, I asked her to not to contact me

> as i

> > > dont

> > > > think good prospects of togatherness, off cource, she w'd

have

> > > > discussed it in my home town, Rewa is not a big place and we

> all

> > > are

> > > > brahmins, so things gets spread, the communication was

throuh

> net

> > > and

> > > > few times through phone, pls. mind it, i have not seen her

> > > physically.

> > > > never met her physically. So, ur prashan chart skills need

to

> ne

> > > > refined, the basic is good, after a point and the

interprition

> > > that u do

> > > > is misleading. Ok.

> > > >

> > > > Next is Priya, I liked this girl more, and felt bad about

her,

> she

> > > is a

> > > > kind of girl, misguided by the peers and this age.

> > > >

> > > > I never met her also, try to check in ur's prashna chart, She

> > > again met

> > > > me through Net, She gave her false introduction like She is a

> > > Software

> > > > Engineer, working with Mphasis, Bombay and about to visit

> Germany,

> > > All

> > > > was wrong. She had a boy friend, once she refered to me and

> then a

> > > > deviation came in her behaviro, As per priya he already

> proposed

> > > her,

> > > > but some disturbance between them came, He didn't belong to

a

> good

> > > > family and of cheep type guy.

> > > >

> > > > I was worried for her, I never wanted her to spoil her life

> with

> > > a such

> > > > type of guy, I tried to convince about the meaning of life

and

> > > values of

> > > > our culture, She felt bad, and got angry, Once what happened

> and

> > > still

> > > > unbelievable to me, let me put here, During my daily puja, I

> saw

> > > Shani

> > > > is coming to me and has occupied me, I have got divine

> protection

> > > form

> > > > lord Hanuman Ji, still, i could not call him for help, what i

> > > could do

> > > > and i had no idea about a learned siddha, what happens is,

in a

> > > minute

> > > > My frined Nirmesh called me from mumbai.

> > > >

> > > > My friend Nirmesh is a Sr, HR Manager with Reliance Retail,

he

> was

> > > with

> > > > his girl friend, in fact i played a role in reconcilation of

> > > disturbance

> > > > between them so they were calling me, As Priya told to me,

she

> > > lives in

> > > > Bombay, I missed her, and thought to contact her, I wanted to

> > > write a

> > > > mail about me , a mail with all my emotions but here Saturn

> Played

> > > a

> > > > role and in place of sending that emotionl mail to Priya, I

> happen

> > > to

> > > > post that mail in a , she and me both were

members,

> I

> > > > created that group to promote youngersters of my region in

> software

> > > > industry, and my own personal mail was posted in the group,

My

> own

> > > > mistake, Pls. check, if u are referring to this incident.

> > > >

> > > > She became so angry on me, but what i could do, all was my

> mistake

> > > and i

> > > > lost her, I w'd like to tell u more, A friend of me was

> jobless, I

> > > gave

> > > > him my own CV to put his name on the CV with all my projects

> in his

> > > > name, Pls check in ur's prashna chart. How i help people.

Next

> day

> > > > after this incident, His birthday came, And the Priya

addressed

> > > him with

> > > > so much of respect, The guy, in place of showing a respect

> towards

> > > me

> > > > for my help, commented on me, A cunning man, I dont know he

and

> > > many

> > > > others have contributed more in widening the gap in between

me

> and

> > > > Priya. I dont know if he is still in touch with her, or all

was

> > > planned

> > > > by them togather. I dont know anything.

> > > >

> > > > I still dont know who this Priya was and where she lives in,

If

> > > she is a

> > > > girl or a game of those guys who wanted me to look down in

that

> > >

> > > > Group. coz, when i started searching her, what i found is, in

> > > mphasis

> > > > there is only one Priya Tiwari, who works with a BPO, she

was

> not

> > > a

> > > > Software Engineer and she never lived in Bombay, She was in

> Noida

> > > > itself. For ur satisfaction, I can post my mails to HR

> department

> > > of

> > > > Mphasis.

> > > >

> > > > I dont know what happend to her, This BPO priya, i also have

> not

> > > met

> > > > her, looks different than the other Priya whom i was

searching.

> > > >

> > > > So, Dear old friend, Check ur Prashna Chart skills more and

> more,

> > > Baiscs

> > > > are correct, ur interpretition is quite wrong and u have not

> got

> > > enough

> > > > experience in life to judge me and realities.

> > > >

> > > > whatever be is Vedanga or Shastra, I wanted to let u know

every

> > > bit of

> > > > knowledge is divine and pavitra. Leave the arrogance and

start

> > > doing

> > > > preperation for ur journey that u have to do in near future.

> > > >

> > > > If any one in the Group, can give light on this Priya's

case,

> coz

> > > i had

> > > > soft feelings for her despite all her lies, I w'd be grateful

> > > otherwise

> > > > it's OK. Can u tell me how and where she is and if she really

> > > exists,

> > > > and if any occult people can help me in establishing a

contact

> > > with her

> > > > if she really exists w'd be good for me. I w'd pay whatever u

> > > demand.

> > > > Will any one take the challange ? i wont ask u what u cant

do,

> I

> > > > promise.

> > > >

> > > > I didn't tell about Preeti and Priya to Pandit ji it was not

> > > necessary,

> > > > better if he w'd have told me sth about them, but Pandit Ji

all

> > > the time

> > > > kept telling me about my Karmic Balance of the previous

birth,

> It

> > > was me

> > > > who gave him hints abot the spirit, Not he, he didnt tell me

> any

> > > thing

> > > > about the spirit and when i told him about the spirti's

> storey, he

> > > said

> > > > he has seen it Prashan chart, tell me where i was wrong, I

> asked

> > > him to

> > > > give me Prashan Chart, he denied.

> > > >

> > > > Dear old friend, why u could not see in ur's prashna chart

the

> > > Saturn

> > > > who got me occupied me during my Puja, I was not sleeping, I

> saw

> > > him

> > > > with open eyes.

> > > >

> > > > Pls. check ur's prashna chart and I w'd request Mr. Rafal to

> > > interefere

> > > > and tell me about Priya, coz, i m having some pain, I dont

know

> > > anything

> > > > , any truth of Priya Tiwari. I have her photograpgh that she

> sent

> > > to me

> > > > which differs from the Priya whom i discovered in mphasis.

> > > >

> > > > Will any one come to help me ?

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam "

> <mohanraaam@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Abhishek:

> > > > >

> > > > > Know the difference between shastraas and the

> vedaangas.....you

> > > > > think an astrologer and a yogi like me would not have

known

> all

> > > > > these! siksha, kalpam, chandas, mimamsa,nruktam and

Jyotisam

> are

> > > > > the vedangas. Don't confuse the 18 shastras or the 64

mighty

> arts

> > > > > with vedanga. You are shallow young man but are trying to

> pass

> > > > > judgments on great branches of knowledge and great persons

of

> > > > > knowledge. I am 86 years old and have lived a full life

with

> a

> > > > > happy wife and 4 intelligent, well-settled children. Not a

> > > > > frustrated unmarried luckless youngman like you!

> > > > >

> > > > > Whatever you said to Panditji...I do not know because he

has

> not

> > > > > divulged the complete exchange inthe forum...I think he

> should

> > > > > probably do that to expose your arrogance and idiocy

levels

> to

> > > this

> > > > > group......

> > > > >

> > > > > You may say that you did not have affairs - then what do

you

> > > tell of

> > > > > a thing when you go after ladies and get heart-broken when

> they

> > > > > reject your proposal? You could not proceed to the level

of a

> > > > > mutual affair because they did not entertain you at all!

> > > > >

> > > > > You have not commented on my finding about Priya/

> preeti.....I am

> > > > > sure it is correct! And definitely your failures in this

> regard

> > > > > would have been a butt of jokes in your circle. I can bet

on

> > > that.

> > > > > But definitely you will come out with your own versions to

> deny

> > > this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Did you tell all this to Guruji? I am sure you would not

have

> > > > > shared it in this light - but mark my words, he would have

> found

> > > it

> > > > > out definitely! Only thing is - he is too decent to hurt

> others

> > > > > unnecessarily.

> > > > >

> > > > > Your posts are not clear....you are saying this and that

> without

> > > > > actually commenting on what others have written. Don't pass

> > > > > judgement on astrology or its efficacy.Astrology is a basic

> > > > > technique that one learns before predicting - but advanced

> > > > > astrologers read far more into charts than what they

indicate

> > > from

> > > > > conventional astrological classics - it is an applied

field

> and

> > > the

> > > > > horoscope is just a focus and an accessory tool for

> prediction in

> > > > > the hands of the greatest masters of this field.

> > > > >

> > > > > Definitely you are not one to comment on the need of

> astrological

> > > > > research without knowing the basic vedic etiquettes of

> behaving

> > > with

> > > > > learned astrologers!

> > > > >

> > > > > Definitely Guruji's wise counsel have been useless to you -

a

> > > > > buffalo will cherish only the muddy waters - will it know

the

> > > > > differnece between Ganges and the gutter?

> > > > >

> > > > > One suggestion young man - try to go into Guruji's mails

> > > carefully

> > > > > and quietly. His words are worth their weight in gold

> usually.

> > > > > Many have benefitted by his counsel - do not try to look

> > > for " your

> > > > > own version of truths " from his writings. If you do that,

it

> is a

> > > > > waste of whatever money you paid Panditji. Understand his

> > > counsel,

> > > > > try to follow them, and you will do fine. But, stop

> insulting and

> > > > > passing unnecessary remarks on astrology and need for

> > > astrological

> > > > > development. Some self-seeking astrologers - capitalizing

on

> the

> > > > > craze of Indian public for " scientific " research, " modern

> > > research

> > > > > into old classics " etc, have written volumes about the

need

> for

> > > > > evolution of astrology whereas the reality is those who

> follow

> > > > > ancient classical wisdom have proved more efficient in all

> these

> > > > > predictive techniques than those " researchers " . Parampara

> has its

> > > > > own significance. You still eat through your mouth though

> times

> > > > > have changed (I am assuming here; or are you eating

through

> the

> > > > > other end for novelty sake?). In the same way, nature has

not

> > > > > changed only certain outer manifestations have changed.

Only

> > > minor

> > > > > modification of interpretaions are needed to suit

> predictions to

> > > > > modern day life and definitely there are not much gaps.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mohanraaam.

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology , " litsol "

> mishra.lalit@

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mohanraaam,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I cant say u " Idiot " and wont speak to u using level of

> ur's

> > > > > language,

> > > > > > ok, Pls. check ur's Prashna Skills 100 times and

discover

> more

> > > > > about me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And my love affairs, I had no affair with any one,

right,

> check

> > > > > it in

> > > > > > ur Prashan Chart, however, when marriage came in my

mind, i

> > > came in

> > > > > > touch with girls, liked two or three of them, ok, they

> didn't

> > > like

> > > > > me,

> > > > > > It happens. It was me who beforehand informed Panditji as

> > > inputs

> > > > > are

> > > > > > required to reach somewhere.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > See, i can say, the basic finding of ur prashan chart

like

> > > break

> > > > > ups is

> > > > > > true, but is little it misleading too, as no brak up in

> sense

> > > of

> > > > > > break-up happened as no affiar even started, sometimes, u

> > > should

> > > > > be

> > > > > > careful more in reaching ur conclusions, that's why i

say,

> more

> > > > > and more

> > > > > > remains to discover, It's - " Apaurusheya "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well, can u tell, in the storey, u posted in group,

where

> is

> > > the

> > > > > > " P-Priya, Preti etc.. " ? I will be more than happy to

see

> ur

> > > > > findings,

> > > > > > What Guruji said was completely different from u, I

> discussed

> > > > > with him

> > > > > > why i dont get proposals from girls even having average

> looks,

> > > He

> > > > > said

> > > > > > to me, You change utr attitude and consider such

> proposals, i

> > > > > further

> > > > > > asked him is it a big expectation to find a nice sweet

> person,

> > > i

> > > > > dont

> > > > > > think a model or actress but a girl with little good

looks

> and

> > > good

> > > > > > nature, even it is difficult, if it is difficult, i was

> asking

> > > him

> > > > > and

> > > > > > describing him about me, my needs, my thoughts.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > and on what u did write - " And your posts about

astrology

> in

> > > your

> > > > > > arguments with Shri. Abhishek also clearly protray your

> idiocy!

> > > > > You are

> > > > > > asking why Astrology

> > > > > > alone is Divine and why not Engineering and other things?

> > > Idiot -

> > > > > > Astrology is a " Vedanga " a direct limb of the Vedas and

not

> > > > > > Engineering......You do not know all this

classifications

> and

> > > are

> > > > > > entering into debate on all these. Do not try to comment

on

> > > > > > subjects without knowing them "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pls study " Shulb Sutras " ok, U will find, Engineering is

> there,

> > > > > > Mathmatics is there, Ayourveda as medical science is

there.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are showing u r too full of urself, somtimes it

> happens to

> > > few

> > > > > > people.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam "

> > > <mohanraaam@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lalith:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You " demanded " Panditji's phone no. and he

refused....you

> > > think

> > > > > he

> > > > > > > has no right to do that? It is his privacy...when you

> have

> > > been

> > > > > > > pestering him over email how much more irresponsible

you

> > > would

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > been if he had given his phone no.? You think Panditji

> has

> > > time

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > spend on worthless brats like you who think the world

is

> > > > > revolving

> > > > > > > around them? He has sent you an audio recording of the

> > > mantra -

> > > > > > > what else you need to know? Is the Great Man your

slave

> or

> > > what

> > > > > > > that you can demand everything that you want from him?

> He is

> > > too

> > > > > > > proud for that!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You have no right to expect anything except service

for

> your

> > > > > > > payment - assuming you have made some payment to

Guruji!

> Do

> > > you

> > > > > > > think you have bought him just because you asked his

> > > service? I

> > > > > am

> > > > > > > sure you would have written something silly like this

> (your

> > > > > current

> > > > > > > post is in itself silly) that annoyed Panditji! You

say

> the

> > > > > matter

> > > > > > > is over - but you keep on saying things as if Panditji

> has

> > > done a

> > > > > > > mistake and you are justified.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > And your posts about astrology in your arguments with

> Shri.

> > > > > Abhishek

> > > > > > > also clearly protray your idiocy! You are asking why

> > > Astrology

> > > > > > > alone is Divine and why not Engineering and other

things?

> > > Idiot -

> > > > > > > Astrology is a " Vedanga " a direct limb of the Vedas

and

> not

> > > > > > > Engineering......You do not know all this

classifications

> > > and are

> > > > > > > entering into debate on all these. Do not try to

comment

> on

> > > > > > > subjects without knowing them.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I just checked up a prashna chart to see what sort of

> person

> > > you

> > > > > > > are.....From this, try to understand what all

astrology

> is

> > > > > capable

> > > > > > > of.....

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Last year you would have proposed to a Lady - and your

> > > failure

> > > > > was a

> > > > > > > widely circulated joke in your social circle.....is it

> true

> > > or

> > > > > not?

> > > > > > > Just understand - people have made fun of you only

> because of

> > > > > > > your " loser " attitude. You are childish in your

attitude;

> > > this is

> > > > > > > one reason why women in your life are running away

from

> you.

> > > > > Guruji

> > > > > > > has just hinted on love failures in his post - but my

> prashna

> > > > > > > clearly indicates they have rejected you outright after

> > > initial

> > > > > > > interactions with you because you have been " chasing "

> them

> > > and

> > > > > > > troubling them with undiplomatic messages

persistently.

> Your

> > > last

> > > > > > > serious connection when the lady rejected your

proposal -

> her

> > > > > name

> > > > > > > is likely to be in the " pa " varga (preeti, Priya, etc.

> any of

> > > > > these -

> > > > > > > you may think I have not found the right name - but

> knowing

> > > the

> > > > > > > initial word of a person about whom I know nothing is

in

> > > itself

> > > > > > > difficult - and no amount of research in scientific

> > > astrology can

> > > > > > > give the exact name! Don't think your " researches " will

> > > > > > > automatically pave the way to find the name and glorify

> > > > > astrology -

> > > > > > > because that is not possible!)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now do you understand what an astrologer is capable of!

> > > Guruji is

> > > > > > > too decent to insult you by writing like this -

> definitely he

> > > > > would

> > > > > > > have found out all these. He would have counselled you

> about

> > > > > change

> > > > > > > of attitude mainly regarding this....you would not

have

> got

> > > the

> > > > > > > hint. Yet in message after message you are justifying

and

> > > > > > > projecting as if your grievance is genuine.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Heights of arrogance - thinking you have the right to

> > > disturb a

> > > > > > > learned senior astrologer as and when you want! I am

> > > associated

> > > > > > > with Panditji for so long and yet I do not have his

> mobile

> > > no. do

> > > > > > > you know that? He has email id and he is very prompt

in

> his

> > > > > replies

> > > > > > > through that. Do you know anything of that great man

or

> his

> > > daily

> > > > > > > schedules? He has not merely one client like you - but

> > > thosands

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > admirers, students, disciples, and clients all over the

> > > world. If

> > > > > > > all start calling Guruji will he ever have time for

> himself?

> > > That

> > > > > > > is why he is not giving the mobile. Your post speaks

as

> if

> > > he is

> > > > > > > hiding himself.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is probably his mistake that he is helping out

people

> like

> > > > > you -

> > > > > > > the great man does not differentiate much and tries to

> help

> > > out

> > > > > > > suffering people even if they are undeserving.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Try to change your attitude for your own good. Improve

> > > yourself

> > > > > > > before trying to comment on great fields like

astrology,

> > > about

> > > > > which

> > > > > > > you do not know even a speck. There are no gaps in

> > > astrological

> > > > > > > knowledge. Enough knowledge has been documented as

Shri.

> > > Potti

> > > > > has

> > > > > > > written in his post.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mohanraaam.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .vedic astrology , " litsol "

> > > > > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear primusjyotish,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You are right, in fact differences begane, when i

asked

> > > Pandit

> > > > > Ji's

> > > > > > > > phone nos to communicate to him, he refused to give

his

> > > nos, I

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > > surprised, being a client, paying for the

consultation

> a

> > > clear

> > > > > > > > communication is required, so at least a

communication

> over

> > > > > phone

> > > > > > > > should happen, It was refused, he recommened a

mantra,

> i

> > > was

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > clear

> > > > > > > > on it's pronunciation, the rerequest to tell right

> > > > > pronunciation

> > > > > > > over

> > > > > > > > phone was also refused, then a copy of charts made

was

> > > refused.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I didnt come to group for so many refusals.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And there were two contradictory explanations , the

> timing

> > > > > given

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > very wide for an event - one year and it was said

that

> it's

> > > > > > > conditional

> > > > > > > > too, I was not understanding what to conclude and

then

> > > pandit

> > > > > Ji

> > > > > > > posted

> > > > > > > > my private communication partly in the group. Later,

> > > pandit ji

> > > > > > > provided

> > > > > > > > me sound files of the mantras, ok, my confusion on

> > > > > pronunciation

> > > > > > > > removed.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now, it is over, and i dont want to discuss it

further.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " Jyotish

> > > Volunteers "

> > > > > > > > <primusjyotishi@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > One would not consult a doctor for his physical

> ailments

> > > or a

> > > > > > > > > psychiatrist for his mental ailments through

> internet.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Perhaps this is why many like Sri K.N. Rao strongly

> > > recommend

> > > > > > > against

> > > > > > > > > seeking solutions to serious matters via internet

> and to

> > > use

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > time

> > > > > > > > > tested procedure of face-to-face, in-person

> consultation.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Convenience gets in the way and causes more pain

> > > ultimately,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > our

> > > > > > > > > need to get the answer here and now,

> unfortunately ...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " litsol "

> > > > > mishra.lalit@

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Pandit Ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I bought a service and had a private

communication,

> > > it's at

> > > > > > > first

> > > > > > > > > sight

> > > > > > > > > > wrong for u to post any part of private

> communication

> > > > > without

> > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > consent.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > U cant imagine anything solely at ur end, if i

> myself

> > > gave

> > > > > u

> > > > > > > hints

> > > > > > > > > of a

> > > > > > > > > > possible obstacle due to spirit, how i m going

to

> fear

> > > some

> > > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > > or the

> > > > > > > > > > other. This should not be basis of not providing

> > > > > infomation.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You are at advanced level, which is realized by

> many

> > > that's

> > > > > > > why u

> > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > being contacted, but that u r into deciding

> everything

> > > in

> > > > > > > > > profession one

> > > > > > > > > > sided, can not be justified.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Though, i wanted chart for keeping in my

records,

> with

> > > no

> > > > > > > doubts on

> > > > > > > > > u,

> > > > > > > > > > ur apporach makes me think otherwise.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In any profession, transparency is key to gain

> one's

> > > faith

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > that u

> > > > > > > > > > didn't bother this, on the basis of ur advanced

> level u

> > > > > pls.

> > > > > > > dont

> > > > > > > > > > justify what is incorrect, it's a pity that u

make

> ur

> > > mood

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > post

> > > > > > > > > > private communication and at the same time, in ur

> > > reply to

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > private

> > > > > > > > > > mail id, u accused me that i can post ur advanced

> > > > > technique in

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > group, I dont know how to react.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > That's a clear contradiction, I was interested

in

> the

> > > final

> > > > > > > outcome

> > > > > > > > > > which is chart, i should know that, and not in

ur's

> > > > > technique

> > > > > > > but u

> > > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > made it a public issue instread of giving same

to

> me.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Why development of ancient knowledge has come to

an

> > > end is

> > > > > > > because

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > this fear which i dont know why some knowledgable

> > > people

> > > > > like u

> > > > > > > > > > insttalled within.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I wish to assure u that ur respect is no way

> > > corroborated

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > intact in

> > > > > > > > > > my views, i m also thankful to u for the

remedies

> and

> > > > > mantras u

> > > > > > > > > provided

> > > > > > > > > > to me, even if that dont work, i will have same

> respect

> > > > > for u

> > > > > > > but u

> > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > completely wrong at ur part in ur dealings. Pls.

> check

> > > ur

> > > > > > > dasha and

> > > > > > > > > > antardasha, something wrong somewhere.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> > > astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > > > > > > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I am posting an extract of the interaction

> between

> > > myself

> > > > > > > and one

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > this list members who wanted a prediction from

> me. I

> > > have

> > > > > > > given

> > > > > > > > > him

> > > > > > > > > > > counselling based on his horoscope and also

> based on

> > > a

> > > > > > > prashna

> > > > > > > > > > > chart. Marital chart showed marital delays and

> > > problem

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > love

> > > > > > > > > > > matters which he has already experienced. The

> prashna

> > > > > chart

> > > > > > > showed

> > > > > > > > > > > the possibility of " Paisacha baadha " (trouble

> due to

> > > > > ghostly

> > > > > > > > > > > entities that block happiness in the family).

I

> had

> > > taken

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > > matter into account and not wanting to scare

the

> > > member

> > > > > > > > > > > unnecessarily, I had not divulged the matter

to

> him.

> > > > > > > Instead, I

> > > > > > > > > > > suggested beeja mantras to counteract that

> effect and

> > > > > also

> > > > > > > > > > > suggested " Sumangali Pooja " to be performed.

He

> later

> > > > > came

> > > > > > > back to

> > > > > > > > > > > me and asked about the ghostly events himself

> > > because his

> > > > > > > family

> > > > > > > > > > > members have had visitations from that entity.

I

> > > replied

> > > > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > saying that I have already taken that factor

into

> > > account

> > > > > > > while

> > > > > > > > > > > giving my suggestions.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The prashna chart showed that the entity is

> likely to

> > > > > leave

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > Earth Plane by this year end and so it cannot

> trouble

> > > > > him any

> > > > > > > > > > > longer. So, based on that and also based on his

> > > > > horoscope,

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > having faith in the remedies I had suggested,

I

> had

> > > > > predicted

> > > > > > > > > > > possibility of marriage in Feb 2008 or in 2009.

> > > Actually,

> > > > > > > dasa-

> > > > > > > > > > > bhukti and transit influences are quite tough

and

> > > > > > > contradictory

> > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > this event and I had taken so many factors and

> > > > > > > balanced/counter-

> > > > > > > > > > > balanced so many possibilities and had

predicted

> the

> > > > > date as

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > Benediction; let the marriage happen in Feb

> 2008! I

> > > had

> > > > > even

> > > > > > > gone

> > > > > > > > > > > to the extent of suggesting attitude

modification

> > > (he may

> > > > > > > not get

> > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > wife of his expectations) for the marriage to

> > > happen; or

> > > > > > > else it

> > > > > > > > > > > might even be denied.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Now, the member has been persisting about

> sharing the

> > > > > prashna

> > > > > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > > > > > with him. I had given him broad hints about

why I

> > > though

> > > > > > > Paisacha

> > > > > > > > > > > baadha was there for him; but he insists that I

> > > share the

> > > > > > > prashna

> > > > > > > > > > > chart and give the complete details to him, or

> else

> > > I am

> > > > > > > unfair!

> > > > > > > > > My

> > > > > > > > > > > reservation regarding this is that prashna is

an

> > > advanced

> > > > > > > > > > > application and sharing its techniques offhand

> may be

> > > > > > > confusing

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > may lead the native into reading too much into

> each

> > > > > prashna

> > > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > > > > > and fear paisacha baadha when infact it might

> not be

> > > > > there

> > > > > > > at all!

> > > > > > > > > > > He does not understand me and is getting at me

> > > prompting

> > > > > me

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > write

> > > > > > > > > > > mail after mail and I am at my patience's end!

> If I

> > > spend

> > > > > > > > > pointless

> > > > > > > > > > > time debating like this with one person how

can I

> > > serve

> > > > > > > > > > > others.....Why does not this member understand

> this?

> > > Not

> > > > > > > sharing

> > > > > > > > > > > sensitive prashna charts is a hallowed

> > > tradition......Am

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > justified in my action when I have acted in

the

> best

> > > > > > > interests of

> > > > > > > > > > > the member?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I am posting the latest exchange between us

for

> your

> > > > > > > reference. I

> > > > > > > > > > > request those who are knowledgeable in

authentic

> > > prashna

> > > > > > > > > traditions

> > > > > > > > > > > to write to the member (He is the person who is

> > > cutting

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > pasting

> > > > > > > > > > > the Garga Hora in this list) telling him that

I

> am

> > > > > justified

> > > > > > > in my

> > > > > > > > > > > stand, and I am doing it in the best

interests.

> He

> > > does

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > understand the danger of maintaining the

prashna

> > > chart

> > > > > > > indicating

> > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > paisacha baadha which is inauspicious! I am

> pained

> > > by his

> > > > > > > words

> > > > > > > > > > > like " Your are hiding something; hiding things

is

> > > not a

> > > > > sign

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > fairness " etc. It is almost like accusing me of

> > > being a

> > > > > > > cheat!

> > > > > > > > > Again

> > > > > > > > > > > he comment on my professionalism; I am acting

as

> per

> > > my

> > > > > > > > > professional

> > > > > > > > > > > ethics; why is he - a novice imputing motives

to

> me

> > > and

> > > > > > > commenting

> > > > > > > > > > > on my professionalism? Is this what an

astrologer

> > > gets

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > > > service?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Below is the extract....

> > > > > > > > > > > --------------

--

> ----

> > > ----

> > > > > ----

> > > > > > > -----

> > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri. Lalith Mishra:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Unnecessary openness in the name of frankness

is

> the

> > > > > bane of

> > > > > > > our

> > > > > > > > > > > society now-a-days. Will you go out in the

nude

> on

> > > the

> > > > > public

> > > > > > > > > roads

> > > > > > > > > > > just to prove you have nothing to hide? Asking

> > > advanced

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > unique

> > > > > > > > > > > predictive techniques of a practising

> professional

> > > > > > > persistently

> > > > > > > > > even

> > > > > > > > > > > after he has denied access to that knowledge

is

> very

> > > > > rude .

> > > > > > > The

> > > > > > > > > > > access to that knowledge was denied because it

> can be

> > > > > > > > > misinterpreted

> > > > > > > > > > > and if you post that " technique " in the VA

list,

> many

> > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > members

> > > > > > > > > > > will get anxious (just as some members are

> wondering

> > > > > what is

> > > > > > > wrong

> > > > > > > > > > > with their horoscopes with the Garga Hora

> posting of

> > > > > yours!)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > What do I have to gain by withholding

> information? I

> > > am

> > > > > too

> > > > > > > > > > > advanced in my profession to be taking advice

> from

> > > people

> > > > > > > > > regarding

> > > > > > > > > > > what is the professional way of handling my

> clients.

> > > I

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > no

> > > > > > > > > > > malefic intentions, and your accusing me of

being

> > > unfair

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > rude

> > > > > > > > > (in

> > > > > > > > > > > fact each of your mails contains something or

the

> > > other).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I can assure you only one thing - I have acted

> in the

> > > > > best of

> > > > > > > > > > > intentions.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I am posting this in the VA list so that other

> > > learned

> > > > > > > members

> > > > > > > > > might

> > > > > > > > > > > put some wisdom into you (I have failed in

this

> with

> > > my

> > > > > > > repeated

> > > > > > > > > > > replies to you).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > " Lalit Mishra, Noida " mlalit@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Res. Pandit Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > On the one hand , I m thankful to you for all

ur

> > > analysis

> > > > > > > and I

> > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > > follow ur instructions but on the other I must

> say

> > > don't

> > > > > > > seem fair

> > > > > > > > > > > enough in ur professional approach.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hiding things is not a sign of fairness.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > If I knew astrology, perhapse I w'd not have

> asked u

> > > for

> > > > > such

> > > > > > > > > simple

> > > > > > > > > > > things or charts, required to keep in my

> records. My

> > > > > level

> > > > > > > is not

> > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > constraint for u to share important charts, if

> > > tomorrow I

> > > > > > > need to

> > > > > > > > > > > contact u for sth, how I w'd do without any

> > > reference.

> > > > > If I

> > > > > > > ask

> > > > > > > > > u, u

> > > > > > > > > > > should not hold things at ur's end and u don't

> gain

> > > any

> > > > > > > thing with

> > > > > > > > > > > ur approach.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

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