To Shri. Rafalji.. Plz help me abt Birth Time Rectifiation!!

[Guest guest]

Dear Respected Rafal Ji...

 

Plz check weather birth time rectification is required to me or not...

 

Details:

DOB:25/11/1983

TOB:05:05 AM

POB:Bangalore Rural(Magadi)

 

Im a B.E Graduate(Electronics and Communication)..

i finished B.E in 2005..

My Average % in B.E is 70..

 

I got my 1st job on November 3 2006..

For tat i had paid some money during training..

In may 2007 i got job in some good company as Software Engineer where i'm

working at present..

 

Plz tell me whether ther is any BT Rectification..

--

With Best Regards,

 

Vijayaprasad D.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Vijay

 

God Bless U

 

I am sending you one of my collection finding about Birth Time Rectification

Query and hope all the members may get some view that how it seem to be typical

to get it.

 

Author: Shreenadh O G

 

Question: On 25-8-1995 at 2:55 PM a child is born at Trivandrum,Kerala, India.

Sunrise - 6:19 AM (IST), Sunset - 6:19 PM (IST).Find the correct time of birth.

Answer:

Day duration= 12:17 (12 hrs 17 min)

1 Yama= 12:17/8 = 737/8= 92:07 (92 min 07 sec)

Earth Tatva= (30/90) x 92:07= 30:42 (30 min 42 sec)

Water Tatva= (24/90) x 92:07= 24:34

Fire Tatva= (18/90) x 92:07= 18:25

Air Tatva= (12/90) x 92:07= 12:17

Sky Tatva= (06/90) x 92:07= 06:08

After 2:55, i.e. 14:55 (IST) is the given birth time. On converting itto Local

Mean Time (LMT) -

Birth time = 14:55 - 22 min (for Trivandrum) = 14:33 (LMT)

Thus the time duration from sun rise to birth time = 14:33 (LMT) -5:57 (LMT) =

8:36 (8 hrs 36 min)

From sunrise 5 yama (7.5 hrs approx) already passed. The birthtook place in the

6th yama of the day. We know that the 6th yama isan even yama. On even yama the

counting of the tatva should be inreverse order, i.e. from Sky onwards.

The actual duration covered by 5 yamas = 92:07 x 5 = 7:40:35

The time covered in the 6th yama = 8:36:00 - 7:40:35 = 00:55:25

Tatva rising at birth time = 00:55:25 - (Sky+Air+Fire)

= 55:25 - (6:08 + 12:07 + 18:25) = 18:35 covered in Water tatva

That means, during the day in the 6th yama, 24:34 (24 min 34 min)of water tatva

rise in that day, when 18:35 (18 min 35 sec) covered,then the birth took place.

Now let us calculate the Antara tatva. Weknow that in water tatva the Antara

tatvas rise in the order Water,Fire, Air, Sky, Earth. Let us calculate the

Antara tatva rising at the timeof birth.

Water Antara tatva= (24:34/92:07) x 24:34= 6.33

Fire Antara tatva= (24:34/92:07) x 18:25= 4:55

Air Antara tatva= (24:34/92:07) x 12:17= 3:17

Sky Antara tatva= (24:34/92:07) x 06:08= 1:38

Earth Antara tatva= (24:34/92:07) x 30:42= 8:11

Thus the Antara tatva rising at the given birth time =

= 18:35 - (Water + Fire + Air + Sky)

= 18:35 - (6:33 + 4:55 + 3:17 + 1:38)

= 18:35 -16:23 = 2:12

That is, the birth took place in earth anta tatva. As per theory thiscan¢t

happen. The birth must had took place in Air Antara tatva.

Start of air antara tatva = 14:33 - (3:17 + 1: 38 + 2:12) = 14:25:53

End of Air antara tatva = 14:33 - 3:17 = 14:29:10

21

Thus the birth time should be between 2:25:53 PM (LMT) and2:29:10 PM (LMT). On

converting to IST, the birth should have takenplace between 2:48 PM (IST) and

2:51 PM (IST).

The given BT was 2:55 PM. But after the verification using Panchatatva method

here the astrologer decided that the correct BT is be-tween 2:48 PM and 2:51 PM.

The complete description given by theastrologer would be - " The birth took place

on 25th August 1995Friday between 2:48 PM (IST) and 2:51 PM (IST) in the 6th

yama,water tatva, air antara tatva. " . Still the astrologer got only a

duration(i.e. 2:48 to 2:51) and not the exact BT. To find the exact BT

withinthis duration, later he will use the Kunda multiplication method or

thelike. (Which would be discussed in the next section) Here the point ofour

interest is, the Pancha tatva method helps the astrologer to cor-rect the birth

time to an extend.

[Apart from birth time rectification, the Pancha tatva method alsohelps the

astrologer to an extend in determining the sex of the child.For example in the

above example, since the birth took place in aeven yama, even tatva, and odd

antara tatva - it should be a girl child,the astrologer may conclude. Similar to

birth time rectification, sexdetermination of the native using the natal chart

is a big subject, andmany methods are available for the same. Being another vast

area ofstudy, research and discussion that won¢t be discussed in this article]

Demerits of Pancha Tatwa method

1) It lacks proper sage supported quotes; and thus not authenticenough.

2) At times, dependance on Pancha Tatva method will demand acorrection of more

than 10 minutes or more (even in cases where thegiven BT seems to be accurate),

which the astrologer will feel relectantto apply, especially due to the lack of

proper sage support for thismethod. (The theory on Pancha Tatva is not yet well

prooved andverified)

 

 

 

 

VIJAYAPRASAD D <hariprasad.d7

vedic astrology <vedic astrology >

Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:09:50 PM

[vedic astrology] To Shri. Rafalji.. Plz help me abt Birth Time

Rectifiation!!

 

Dear Respected Rafal Ji...

 

Plz check weather birth time rectification is required to me or not...

 

Details:

DOB:25/11/1983

TOB:05:05 AM

POB:Bangalore Rural(Magadi)

 

Im a B.E Graduate(Electronic s and Communication) ..

i finished B.E in 2005..

My Average % in B.E is 70..

 

I got my 1st job on November 3 2006..

For tat i had paid some money during training..

In may 2007 i got job in some good company as Software Engineer where i'm

working at present..

 

Plz tell me whether ther is any BT Rectification. .

--

With Best Regards,

 

Vijayaprasad D.

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear RafalJi,

 

You didnt answer to my query..

I'm eagerly waitiing for ur reply..

 

Regards

Vijay..

 

 

 

On 7/26/07, Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote:

>

> Dear Vijay

>

> God Bless U

>

> I am sending you one of my collection finding about Birth Time

> Rectification Query and hope all the members may get some view that how it

> seem to be typical to get it.

>

> Author: Shreenadh O G

>

> Question: On 25-8-1995 at 2:55 PM a child is born at Trivandrum,Kerala,

> India. Sunrise - 6:19 AM (IST), Sunset - 6:19 PM (IST).Find the correct time

> of birth.

> Answer:

> Day duration= 12:17 (12 hrs 17 min)

> 1 Yama= 12:17/8 = 737/8= 92:07 (92 min 07 sec)

> Earth Tatva= (30/90) x 92:07= 30:42 (30 min 42 sec)

> Water Tatva= (24/90) x 92:07= 24:34

> Fire Tatva= (18/90) x 92:07= 18:25

> Air Tatva= (12/90) x 92:07= 12:17

> Sky Tatva= (06/90) x 92:07= 06:08

> After 2:55, i.e. 14:55 (IST) is the given birth time. On converting itto

> Local Mean Time (LMT) -

> Birth time = 14:55 - 22 min (for Trivandrum) = 14:33 (LMT)

> Thus the time duration from sun rise to birth time = 14:33 (LMT) -5:57

> (LMT) = 8:36 (8 hrs 36 min)

> From sunrise 5 yama (7.5 hrs approx) already passed. The birthtook place

> in the 6th yama of the day. We know that the 6th yama isan even yama. On

> even yama the counting of the tatva should be inreverse order, i.e. from

> Sky onwards.

> The actual duration covered by 5 yamas = 92:07 x 5 = 7:40:35

> The time covered in the 6th yama = 8:36:00 - 7:40:35 = 00:55:25

> Tatva rising at birth time = 00:55:25 - (Sky+Air+Fire)

> = 55:25 - (6:08 + 12:07 + 18:25) = 18:35 covered in Water tatva

> That means, during the day in the 6th yama, 24:34 (24 min 34 min)of water

> tatva rise in that day, when 18:35 (18 min 35 sec) covered,then the birth

> took place. Now let us calculate the Antara tatva. Weknow that in water

> tatva the Antara tatvas rise in the order Water,Fire, Air, Sky, Earth. Let

> us calculate the Antara tatva rising at the timeof birth.

> Water Antara tatva= (24:34/92:07) x 24:34= 6.33

> Fire Antara tatva= (24:34/92:07) x 18:25= 4:55

> Air Antara tatva= (24:34/92:07) x 12:17= 3:17

> Sky Antara tatva= (24:34/92:07) x 06:08= 1:38

> Earth Antara tatva= (24:34/92:07) x 30:42= 8:11

> Thus the Antara tatva rising at the given birth time =

> = 18:35 - (Water + Fire + Air + Sky)

> = 18:35 - (6:33 + 4:55 + 3:17 + 1:38)

> = 18:35 -16:23 = 2:12

> That is, the birth took place in earth anta tatva. As per theory thiscan¢t

> happen. The birth must had took place in Air Antara tatva.

> Start of air antara tatva = 14:33 - (3:17 + 1: 38 + 2:12) = 14:25:53

> End of Air antara tatva = 14:33 - 3:17 = 14:29:10

> 21

> Thus the birth time should be between 2:25:53 PM (LMT) and2:29:10 PM

> (LMT). On converting to IST, the birth should have takenplace between 2:48

> PM (IST) and 2:51 PM (IST).

> The given BT was 2:55 PM. But after the verification using Panchatatva

> method here the astrologer decided that the correct BT is be-tween 2:48 PM

> and 2:51 PM. The complete description given by theastrologer would be - " The

> birth took place on 25th August 1995Friday between 2:48 PM (IST) and 2:51 PM

> (IST) in the 6th yama,water tatva, air antara tatva. " . Still the astrologer

> got only a duration(i.e. 2:48 to 2:51) and not the exact BT. To find the

> exact BT withinthis duration, later he will use the Kunda multiplication

> method or thelike. (Which would be discussed in the next section) Here the

> point ofour interest is, the Pancha tatva method helps the astrologer to

> cor-rect the birth time to an extend.

> [Apart from birth time rectification, the Pancha tatva method alsohelps

> the astrologer to an extend in determining the sex of the child.Forexample in

the above example, since the birth took place in aeven yama, even

> tatva, and odd antara tatva - it should be a girl child,the astrologer may

> conclude. Similar to birth time rectification, sexdetermination of the

> native using the natal chart is a big subject, andmany methods are available

> for the same. Being another vast area ofstudy, research and discussion that

> won¢t be discussed in this article]

> Demerits of Pancha Tatwa method

> 1) It lacks proper sage supported quotes; and thus not authenticenough.

> 2) At times, dependance on Pancha Tatva method will demand acorrection of

> more than 10 minutes or more (even in cases where thegiven BT seems to be

> accurate), which the astrologer will feel relectantto apply, especially due

> to the lack of proper sage support for thismethod. (The theory on Pancha

> Tatva is not yet well prooved andverified)

>

>

>

>

> VIJAYAPRASAD D <hariprasad.d7

> vedic astrology <vedic astrology >

> Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:09:50 PM

> [vedic astrology] To Shri. Rafalji.. Plz help me abt Birth Time

> Rectifiation!!

>

> Dear Respected Rafal Ji...

>

> Plz check weather birth time rectification is required to me or not...

>

> Details:

> DOB:25/11/1983

> TOB:05:05 AM

> POB:Bangalore Rural(Magadi)

>

> Im a B.E Graduate(Electronic s and Communication) ..

> i finished B.E in 2005..

> My Average % in B.E is 70..

>

> I got my 1st job on November 3 2006..

> For tat i had paid some money during training..

> In may 2007 i got job in some good company as Software Engineer where i'm

> working at present..

>

> Plz tell me whether ther is any BT Rectification. .

> --

> With Best Regards,

>

> Vijayaprasad D.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Pramji,

 

Thank u very much for ur illustration..

i got some ideas abt BT rectification...

 

Regards

Vijay

 

 

On 7/27/07, VIJAYAPRASAD D <hariprasad.d7 wrote:

>

> Dear RafalJi,

>

> You didnt answer to my query..

> I'm eagerly waitiing for ur reply..

>

> Regards

> Vijay..

>

>

>

> On 7/26/07, Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vijay

> >

> > God Bless U

> >

> > I am sending you one of my collection finding about Birth Time

> > Rectification Query and hope all the members may get some view that how it

> > seem to be typical to get it.

> >

> > Author: Shreenadh O G

> >

> > Question: On 25-8-1995 at 2:55 PM a child is born at Trivandrum,Kerala,

> > India. Sunrise - 6:19 AM (IST), Sunset - 6:19 PM (IST).Find the correct time

> > of birth.

> > Answer:

> > Day duration= 12:17 (12 hrs 17 min)

> > 1 Yama= 12:17/8 = 737/8= 92:07 (92 min 07 sec)

> > Earth Tatva= (30/90) x 92:07= 30:42 (30 min 42 sec)

> > Water Tatva= (24/90) x 92:07= 24:34

> > Fire Tatva= (18/90) x 92:07= 18:25

> > Air Tatva= (12/90) x 92:07= 12:17

> > Sky Tatva= (06/90) x 92:07= 06:08

> > After 2:55, i.e. 14:55 (IST) is the given birth time. On converting itto

> > Local Mean Time (LMT) -

> > Birth time = 14:55 - 22 min (for Trivandrum) = 14:33 (LMT)

> > Thus the time duration from sun rise to birth time = 14:33 (LMT) -5:57

> > (LMT) = 8:36 (8 hrs 36 min)

> > From sunrise 5 yama (7.5 hrs approx) already passed. The birthtook place

> > in the 6th yama of the day. We know that the 6th yama isan even yama. On

> > even yama the counting of the tatva should be inreverse order, i.e. from

> > Sky onwards.

> > The actual duration covered by 5 yamas = 92:07 x 5 = 7:40:35

> > The time covered in the 6th yama = 8:36:00 - 7:40:35 = 00:55:25

> > Tatva rising at birth time = 00:55:25 - (Sky+Air+Fire)

> > = 55:25 - (6:08 + 12:07 + 18:25) = 18:35 covered in Water tatva

> > That means, during the day in the 6th yama, 24:34 (24 min 34 min)of

> > water tatva rise in that day, when 18:35 (18 min 35 sec) covered,then the

> > birth took place. Now let us calculate the Antara tatva. Weknow that in

> > water tatva the Antara tatvas rise in the order Water,Fire, Air, Sky, Earth.

> > Let us calculate the Antara tatva rising at the timeof birth.

> > Water Antara tatva= (24:34/92:07) x 24:34= 6.33

> > Fire Antara tatva= (24:34/92:07) x 18:25= 4:55

> > Air Antara tatva= (24:34/92:07) x 12:17= 3:17

> > Sky Antara tatva= (24:34/92:07) x 06:08= 1:38

> > Earth Antara tatva= (24:34/92:07) x 30:42= 8:11

> > Thus the Antara tatva rising at the given birth time =

> > = 18:35 - (Water + Fire + Air + Sky)

> > = 18:35 - (6:33 + 4:55 + 3:17 + 1:38)

> > = 18:35 -16:23 = 2:12

> > That is, the birth took place in earth anta tatva. As per theory

> > thiscan¢t happen. The birth must had took place in Air Antara tatva.

> > Start of air antara tatva = 14:33 - (3:17 + 1: 38 + 2:12) = 14:25:53

> > End of Air antara tatva = 14:33 - 3:17 = 14:29:10

> > 21

> > Thus the birth time should be between 2:25:53 PM (LMT) and2:29:10 PM

> > (LMT). On converting to IST, the birth should have takenplace between 2:48

> > PM (IST) and 2:51 PM (IST).

> > The given BT was 2:55 PM. But after the verification using Panchatatva

> > method here the astrologer decided that the correct BT is be-tween 2:48 PM

> > and 2:51 PM. The complete description given by theastrologer would be - " The

> > birth took place on 25th August 1995Friday between 2:48 PM (IST) and 2:51 PM

> > (IST) in the 6th yama,water tatva, air antara tatva. " . Still the astrologer

> > got only a duration( i.e. 2:48 to 2:51) and not the exact BT. To find

> > the exact BT withinthis duration, later he will use the Kunda multiplication

> > method or thelike. (Which would be discussed in the next section) Here the

> > point ofour interest is, the Pancha tatva method helps the astrologer to

> > cor-rect the birth time to an extend.

> > [Apart from birth time rectification, the Pancha tatva method alsohelps

> > the astrologer to an extend in determining the sex of the child.Forexample

in the above example, since the birth took place in aeven yama, even

> > tatva, and odd antara tatva - it should be a girl child,the astrologer may

> > conclude. Similar to birth time rectification, sexdetermination of the

> > native using the natal chart is a big subject, andmany methods are available

> > for the same. Being another vast area ofstudy, research and discussion that

> > won¢t be discussed in this article]

> > Demerits of Pancha Tatwa method

> > 1) It lacks proper sage supported quotes; and thus not authenticenough.

> > 2) At times, dependance on Pancha Tatva method will demand acorrection

> > of more than 10 minutes or more (even in cases where thegiven BT seems to be

> > accurate), which the astrologer will feel relectantto apply, especially due

> > to the lack of proper sage support for thismethod. (The theory on Pancha

> > Tatva is not yet well prooved andverified)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > VIJAYAPRASAD D <hariprasad.d7

> > vedic astrology < vedic astrology >

> > Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:09:50 PM

> > [vedic astrology] To Shri. Rafalji.. Plz help me abt Birth Time

> > Rectifiation!!

> >

> > Dear Respected Rafal Ji...

> >

> > Plz check weather birth time rectification is required to me or not...

> >

> > Details:

> > DOB:25/11/1983

> > TOB:05:05 AM

> > POB:Bangalore Rural(Magadi)

> >

> > Im a B.E Graduate(Electronic s and Communication) ..

> > i finished B.E in 2005..

> > My Average % in B.E is 70..

> >

> > I got my 1st job on November 3 2006..

> > For tat i had paid some money during training..

> > In may 2007 i got job in some good company as Software Engineer where

> > i'm

> > working at present..

> >

> > Plz tell me whether ther is any BT Rectification. .

> > --

> > With Best Regards,

> >

> > Vijayaprasad D.

> >

> >