To Raman Sachdeva (Point by Point Answers )

August 12, 2007

Here, i Hapen to write Krishna in Place of Arjuna in the 4'th points 3rd

para.., It's too late 3:00 am and i m sleepy, pls. read it proper

way.., now i have emboldened the " Arjuna " .

regards,

Lalit.

=================================================================

Dear Raman,

I will explain it to you bit by bit and w'd confirm it with my

experience, first let me ask mother's permission to make sure i m not

transgressing my limits... , ok it's there, i will tell u within my

capacity.

1. Millions and millions of Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma : Means to not to

become conservative in ur religious beliefs, not to become narrow

minded

that divine is limited to it's one name or one characteristic, take it

this way, u know ur Visnu, but there is another Vishnu for other being

from a different place, culture, community,world, galaxy etc. So, dont

let down other's religion, dont kill them if they call the God with

differnt name, this message should to be given to islamic scholars to

end religion sponsored terrorism.

2. Above all the Rama Naama, now, as u understand that every

individual has same connection with God same as u do have, have same

respect to every name of the God. but u discover ur's spirituality

with

ur name, ur own way..

Here i will try to make it more clear, sometimes giving emphasis on

one

name by Saints creates confusion for the followrs and they begin

stating

superiority of the name that they know or use to pray, If u know,

Swami

PrabhuPaad, he founded Iskon, he stated above all there is Prahu

Krishna, Krishna is the supreme God. What he was saying is there is

one

Supreme God, whom he knows as Lord Krishna, This name for him is of

supreme importance, mind it, while stating this, he w'd be undergoing

the process of founding his faith, So, he w'd said this to himself,

Ok,

Later on, followers w'd start taking it's lexical meaning, rather

trying

to understand what was his intension and why he said it, One of such

follower one's fallen in a discussion with me trying to say some other

name take it " Shiva " is lower than " Krishna " . this sort of dogma has

created havoc in the history. So, it should be made clear vey

carefully.

3. World is so large , so complext is, it's management and ur existnce

is so small ur intellect is so less, never be Egoist, never be clever

and never be greedy coz supreme intellect is there before and there so

much in the world to give you to bless u with, u even dont imagine

what

God can offer to you, so u be deserving, be fair etc.

4. You asked - " Can we knwn about all universe by any spirtual way " ,

I

w'd say yes it is, in fact it's so easy, it's easy like typing a mail

and posting to the group or switching on the fan or bulb.

First take examples from the scriptures , In the mahabharata, there is

astory, once maa yashoda made kid krishnaa's mouth open and saw whole

univese within kids mouth, other story is , upon the request of

Arjuna,

lord Krishna shown him his Viraat (large like universe) form or rup.

Now, take it this way, who is Arjuna , Arjuna is a frightened man, who

has no will power to even fight a war, whose faith is shaken like you

or

me, but he is curious and approaches the God, God loves him and

enables

him to view the universal form (brahmaand) of lord itself.

If it can happen to one Arjuna, it can happen to you or me also, what

merit Arjuna has,certainly nothing better than you, still he got, you

can also get it.

Now how it happens, try to focus on ice particles, ice is solid, it

has

it's shape and mass, but when it melts down, it has no shape of it's

own, it can flow to a larger area, i mean it expands itself, now when

it

evaporates then what happens, it expands larger area as in the gaseous

stage it can cover up far more space..

same is we human being, our soul get's mixed with 5 elemnts and with

ego, we get a solid shape of our personality, we are like ice particle

only. basic instincts like - ego, greed and sex binds u in some

identity, you have to dissolve it's intensity as much as possible.

for what u have ego - ur knowledge , ur's achievements, ur's success

etc.., compare urself with world leaders, and then look at universe,

earth is such a small entity and u r such a small particle in the

earth,

what u have to put ego ?

Sex, why u think always that u r a male and she is female, u r a soul

and u have put on a body of male of female, it was ur's choice.

biologically too, u have seen sex is a chnageable characteristic,

spirituality too says same, i m forgtting about one King in some of

the

Puraans, who once entered into a jungle and converted to a woman,

there

she got married to a male and gave birth to kids, somehow he came out

of

jungle and got his male form... now, he understood the sex is not a

constant properity. take some feminine hormones and u can see, female

sex organs are developing in you.

So, from the state of ice particles u have to melt down, how, there

are

various paths , one is mantra sadhnaa, i have realized this path ,

how,

during the chant, when ur karma get's diluted, ur heart's impurities

starts filtering and u feel strengthand liking for the truth, then u

should understand, u r mantra is awakening you and after a period, u

will see, u r no longer attached to ur existance, ur identity , ur

personality, ur body etc, you will recognise the detachment, u will

see,

u r putting on the mentioned things, and then u w'd begin njoying the

drama of the world... why a person does a cunningness and why other

helps him in it.... etc.

The sort of natural detachement to is very important, when u realize,

u

r not a person with a personality, ur desire for fame and respect is

reduced...

this detachement will return in attachement to others, coz u start

thinking others are like me only, so u feel a sort of attachement or

affection to one and all...

now, when u realize it practically,ur conciousness starts getting

connected to other's conciousness, u w'd have read that in some sages

ashraam lion and man were living togather, how just of their

conciousness.

Now, God may bless u anytime and u will see, u r lively connected to

God, u r dissolved to god and God is everywhere, God is in

verything...

see, it's a matter of realization, not a matter of reading it and

preeching to others..

You will see, u r everywhere, coz u r within the God and God is

omnipresent, next u will see, whole universe is within you.

Even this stage is not ultimate, coz u though see, u r everywhere coz,

u

r within the God.. i mean u w'd still know ur different being but

within

the same God.., you will realize ur's as well as God's existance... ,

but u can see ur's expansion to Galaxies.

Now what remains is, to see one's completely getting dissolved into

God. This is a state of Samadhi... , in this stage, as u are dissolved

into God, u will see, only one's existance is there in the world.

Best Regards,

Lalit.

vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit

wrote:

>

> Dear Raman,

>

> I will explain it to you bit by bit and w'd confirm it with my

> experience, first let me ask mother's permission to make sure i m not

> transgressing my limits... , ok it's there, i will tell u within my

> capacity.

>

> 1. Millions and millions of Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma : Means to not to

> become conservative in ur religious beliefs, not to become narrow

minded

> that divine is limited to it's one name or one characteristic, take it

> this way, u know ur Visnu, but there is another Vishnu for other being

> from a different place, culture, community,world, galaxy etc. So, dont

> let down other's religion, dont kill them if they call the God with

> differnt name, this message should to be given to islamic scholars to

> end religion sponsored terrorism.

>

> 2. Above all the Rama Naama, now, as u understand that every

> individual has same connection with God same as u do have, have same

> respect to every name of the God. but u discover ur's spirituality

with

> ur name, ur own way..

>

> Here i will try to make it more clear, sometimes giving emphasis on

one

> name by Saints creates confusion for the followrs and they begin

stating

> superiority of the name that they know or use to pray, If u know,

Swami

> PrabhuPaad, he founded Iskon, he stated above all there is Prahu

> Krishna, Krishna is the supreme God. What he was saying is there is

one

> Supreme God, whom he knows as Lord Krishna, This name for him is of

> supreme importance, mind it, while stating this, he w'd be undergoing

> the process of founding his faith, So, he w'd said this to himself,

Ok,

> Later on, followers w'd start taking it's lexical meaning, rather

trying

> to understand what was his intension and why he said it, One of such

> follower one's fallen in a discussion with me trying to say some other

> name take it " Shiva " is lower than " Krishna " . this sort of dogma has

> created havoc in the history. So, it should be made clear vey

carefully.

>

> 3. World is so large , so complext is, it's management and ur existnce

> is so small ur intellect is so less, never be Egoist, never be clever

> and never be greedy coz supreme intellect is there before and there so

> much in the world to give you to bless u with, u even dont imagine

what

> God can offer to you, so u be deserving, be fair etc.

>

> 4. You asked - " Can we knwn about all universe by any spirtual way " ,

I

> w'd say yes it is, in fact it's so easy, it's easy like typing a mail

> and posting to the group or switching on the fan or bulb.

>

> First take examples from the scriptures , In the mahabharata, there is

> astory, once maa yashoda made kid krishnaa's mouth open and saw whole

> univese within kids mouth, other story is , upon the request of

Arjuna,

> lord Krishna shown him his Viraat (large like universe) form or rup.

>

> Now, take it this way, who is Krishna, Krishna is a frightened man,

who

> has no will power to even fight a war, whose faith is shaken like you

or

> me, but he is curious and approaches the God, God loves him and

enables

> him to view the universal form (brahmaand) of lord itself.

>

> If it can happen to one Arjuna, it can happen to you or me also, what

> merit Arjuna has,certainly nothing better than you, still he got, you

> can also get it.

>

> Now how it happens, try to focus on ice particles, ice is solid, it

has

> it's shape and mass, but when it melts down, it has no shape of it's

> own, it can flow to a larger area, i mean it expands itself, now when

it

> evaporates then what happens, it expands larger area as in the gaseous

> stage it can cover up far more space..

>

> same is we human being, our soul get's mixed with 5 elemnts and with

> ego, we get a solid shape of our personality, we are like ice particle

> only. basic instincts like - ego, greed and sex binds u in some

> identity, you have to dissolve it's intensity as much as possible.

>

> for what u have ego - ur knowledge , ur's achievements, ur's success

> etc.., compare urself with world leaders, and then look at universe,

> earth is such a small entity and u r such a small particle in the

earth,

> what u have to put ego ?

>

> Sex, why u think always that u r a male and she is female, u r a soul

> and u have put on a body of male of female, it was ur's choice.

> biologically too, u have seen sex is a chnageable characteristic,

> spirituality too says same, i m forgtting about one King in some of

the

> Puraans, who once entered into a jungle and converted to a woman,

there

> she got married to a male and gave birth to kids, somehow he came out

of

> jungle and got his male form... now, he understood the sex is not a

> constant properity. take some feminine hormones and u can see, female

> sex organs are developing in you.

>

> So, from the state of ice particles u have to melt down, how, there

are

> various paths , one is mantra sadhnaa, i have realized this path ,

how,

> during the chant, when ur karma get's diluted, ur heart's impurities

> starts filtering and u feel strengthand liking for the truth, then u

> should understand, u r mantra is awakening you and after a period, u

> will see, u r no longer attached to ur existance, ur identity , ur

> personality, ur body etc, you will recognise the detachment, u will

see,

> u r putting on the mentioned things, and then u w'd begin njoying the

> drama of the world... why a person does a cunningness and why other

> helps him in it.... etc.

>

> The sort of natural detachement to is very important, when u realize,

u

> r not a person with a personality, ur desire for fame and respect is

> reduced...

>

> this detachement will return in attachement to others, coz u start

> thinking others are like me only, so u feel a sort of attachement or

> affection to one and all...

>

> now, when u realize it practically,ur conciousness starts getting

> connected to other's conciousness, u w'd have read that in some sages

> ashraam lion and man were living togather, how just of their

> conciousness.

>

> Now, God may bless u anytime and u will see, u r lively connected to

> God, u r dissolved to god and God is everywhere, God is in

verything...

> see, it's a matter of realization, not a matter of reading it and

> preeching to others..

>

> You will see, u r everywhere, coz u r within the God and God is

> omnipresent, next u will see, whole universe is within you.

>

> Even this stage is not ultimate, coz u though see, u r everywhere coz,

u

> r within the God.. i mean u w'd still know ur different being but

within

> the same God.., you will realize ur's as well as God's existance... ,

> but u can see ur's expansion to Galaxies.

>

> Now what remains is, to see one's completely getting dissolved into

> God. This is a state of Samadhi... , in this stage, as u are dissolved

> into God, u will see, only one's existance is there in the world.

>

> Best Regards,

> Lalit.

>

vedic astrology , Shindi sinhazz@ wrote:

> >

> > Hi Rohit,

> > Lemme correct you on one point astronomically.

> >

> > Right now we are in Saggitarian dwarf galaxy.... which is going to

> merge with another bigger galaxy known as milky way...in 2012 AD.

> >

> > But this is just an astronomical information.. I dont know anything

> else.

> >

> > Amit

> >

> > Pram Chopra pramchopra1964@

> > vedic astrology

> > Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:51:02 PM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Raman Sachdeva

> >

> > Dear Rohit

> >

> > God Bless U

> >

> > I am very glad that you are interested in those spiritual path I am

> Astro-Spiritual Master doing practice since 1984. The milky way of

> Galaxy is our Akash Ganga as we call it. yes we can know about other

> galaxies by spiritual practice. AS the time is not yet come to

disclose

> the facts about it. The time do not allow it to. Millons of Vishnu

means

> God have so many shapes that you can see almost in everything.

> Manupulations of things goes to Vishnu, innovations of creations goes

to

> Brahama. distroyer of explosives goes to Shiva.

> > one galaxy means one solar system. But due to explosives time do not

> allow to know about other planets living beings.

> >

> > A Foresight Prince of India

> > Pram Chopra

> >

> > rohit sood <rohit_sood76@ .co. in>

> > vedic astrology

> > Sunday, August 12, 2007 12:54:44 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Raman Sachdeva

> >

> > Dear Sir ,

> > With due respect , I want to knw about my future my self Raman

> Sachdeva , Male DOB 22-11-76 Time 6.22 AM Place Ludhiana .

> > Can I get enlightment in ds birth ???????????? ????????? ????

> > I have some question too , their are billions billions of planets ,

> million galaxies out which we live n milky way galaxy .All this

> creations is made by Lord vishnu .Is their life in any of these

galaxies

> . Can we knwn about all universe by any spirtual way .

> > One more question , in Gurubani their is one line guru granth sahib

> that their are millions millions vishnu , same millions brahma , same

> shiv and the uper the most Ram naam which is the main craetive

> formationof all universe .I totally agree with all ds .But what is the

> meaning of millions millions vishnu , brahma and shiv .

> > Can you make some enlightment in all those questions .

> > Waiting ,

> > Raman Sachdeva

> >

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> how.

> >

August 13, 2007

Thank you so much lalit jeeeeeeeeee for your very wonderful favour and it been

so so good and I will read again and try to implements what u have suggest me

....

I NEED YOUR FAVOUR AT ALL TIMES WHEN NEEDED ..SO ALWAYS BEEN MY GURU .

REGARDS,

RAMAN SACHDEVA

litsol <mishra.lalit wrote:

Here, i Hapen to write Krishna in Place of Arjuna in the 4'th points 3rd

para.., It's too late 3:00 am and i m sleepy, pls. read it proper

way.., now i have emboldened the " Arjuna " .

regards,

Lalit.

=================================================================

Dear Raman,

I will explain it to you bit by bit and w'd confirm it with my

experience, first let me ask mother's permission to make sure i m not

transgressing my limits... , ok it's there, i will tell u within my

capacity.

1. Millions and millions of Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma : Means to not to

become conservative in ur religious beliefs, not to become narrow

minded

that divine is limited to it's one name or one characteristic, take it

this way, u know ur Visnu, but there is another Vishnu for other being

from a different place, culture, community,world, galaxy etc. So, dont

let down other's religion, dont kill them if they call the God with

differnt name, this message should to be given to islamic scholars to

end religion sponsored terrorism.

2. Above all the Rama Naama, now, as u understand that every

individual has same connection with God same as u do have, have same

respect to every name of the God. but u discover ur's spirituality

with

ur name, ur own way..

Here i will try to make it more clear, sometimes giving emphasis on

one

name by Saints creates confusion for the followrs and they begin

stating

superiority of the name that they know or use to pray, If u know,

Swami

PrabhuPaad, he founded Iskon, he stated above all there is Prahu

Krishna, Krishna is the supreme God. What he was saying is there is

one

Supreme God, whom he knows as Lord Krishna, This name for him is of

supreme importance, mind it, while stating this, he w'd be undergoing

the process of founding his faith, So, he w'd said this to himself,

Ok,

Later on, followers w'd start taking it's lexical meaning, rather

trying

to understand what was his intension and why he said it, One of such

follower one's fallen in a discussion with me trying to say some other

name take it " Shiva " is lower than " Krishna " . this sort of dogma has

created havoc in the history. So, it should be made clear vey

carefully.

3. World is so large , so complext is, it's management and ur existnce

is so small ur intellect is so less, never be Egoist, never be clever

and never be greedy coz supreme intellect is there before and there so

much in the world to give you to bless u with, u even dont imagine

what

God can offer to you, so u be deserving, be fair etc.

4. You asked - " Can we knwn about all universe by any spirtual way " ,

I

w'd say yes it is, in fact it's so easy, it's easy like typing a mail

and posting to the group or switching on the fan or bulb.

First take examples from the scriptures , In the mahabharata, there is

astory, once maa yashoda made kid krishnaa's mouth open and saw whole

univese within kids mouth, other story is , upon the request of

Arjuna,

lord Krishna shown him his Viraat (large like universe) form or rup.

Now, take it this way, who is Arjuna , Arjuna is a frightened man, who

has no will power to even fight a war, whose faith is shaken like you

or

me, but he is curious and approaches the God, God loves him and

enables

him to view the universal form (brahmaand) of lord itself.

If it can happen to one Arjuna, it can happen to you or me also, what

merit Arjuna has,certainly nothing better than you, still he got, you

can also get it.

Now how it happens, try to focus on ice particles, ice is solid, it

has

it's shape and mass, but when it melts down, it has no shape of it's

own, it can flow to a larger area, i mean it expands itself, now when

it

evaporates then what happens, it expands larger area as in the gaseous

stage it can cover up far more space..

same is we human being, our soul get's mixed with 5 elemnts and with

ego, we get a solid shape of our personality, we are like ice particle

only. basic instincts like - ego, greed and sex binds u in some

identity, you have to dissolve it's intensity as much as possible.

for what u have ego - ur knowledge , ur's achievements, ur's success

etc.., compare urself with world leaders, and then look at universe,

earth is such a small entity and u r such a small particle in the

earth,

what u have to put ego ?

Sex, why u think always that u r a male and she is female, u r a soul

and u have put on a body of male of female, it was ur's choice.

biologically too, u have seen sex is a chnageable characteristic,

spirituality too says same, i m forgtting about one King in some of

the

Puraans, who once entered into a jungle and converted to a woman,

there

she got married to a male and gave birth to kids, somehow he came out

of

jungle and got his male form... now, he understood the sex is not a

constant properity. take some feminine hormones and u can see, female

sex organs are developing in you.

So, from the state of ice particles u have to melt down, how, there

are

various paths , one is mantra sadhnaa, i have realized this path ,

how,

during the chant, when ur karma get's diluted, ur heart's impurities

starts filtering and u feel strengthand liking for the truth, then u

should understand, u r mantra is awakening you and after a period, u

will see, u r no longer attached to ur existance, ur identity , ur

personality, ur body etc, you will recognise the detachment, u will

see,

u r putting on the mentioned things, and then u w'd begin njoying the

drama of the world... why a person does a cunningness and why other

helps him in it.... etc.

The sort of natural detachement to is very important, when u realize,

u

r not a person with a personality, ur desire for fame and respect is

reduced...

this detachement will return in attachement to others, coz u start

thinking others are like me only, so u feel a sort of attachement or

affection to one and all...

now, when u realize it practically,ur conciousness starts getting

connected to other's conciousness, u w'd have read that in some sages

ashraam lion and man were living togather, how just of their

conciousness.

Now, God may bless u anytime and u will see, u r lively connected to

God, u r dissolved to god and God is everywhere, God is in

verything...

see, it's a matter of realization, not a matter of reading it and

preeching to others..

You will see, u r everywhere, coz u r within the God and God is

omnipresent, next u will see, whole universe is within you.

Even this stage is not ultimate, coz u though see, u r everywhere coz,

u

r within the God.. i mean u w'd still know ur different being but

within

the same God.., you will realize ur's as well as God's existance... ,

but u can see ur's expansion to Galaxies.

Now what remains is, to see one's completely getting dissolved into

God. This is a state of Samadhi... , in this stage, as u are dissolved

into God, u will see, only one's existance is there in the world.

Best Regards,

Lalit.

vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit

wrote:

>

> Dear Raman,

>

> I will explain it to you bit by bit and w'd confirm it with my

> experience, first let me ask mother's permission to make sure i m not

> transgressing my limits... , ok it's there, i will tell u within my

> capacity.

>

> 1. Millions and millions of Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma : Means to not to

> become conservative in ur religious beliefs, not to become narrow

minded

> that divine is limited to it's one name or one characteristic, take it

> this way, u know ur Visnu, but there is another Vishnu for other being

> from a different place, culture, community,world, galaxy etc. So, dont

> let down other's religion, dont kill them if they call the God with

> differnt name, this message should to be given to islamic scholars to

> end religion sponsored terrorism.

>

> 2. Above all the Rama Naama, now, as u understand that every

> individual has same connection with God same as u do have, have same

> respect to every name of the God. but u discover ur's spirituality

with

> ur name, ur own way..

>

> Here i will try to make it more clear, sometimes giving emphasis on

one

> name by Saints creates confusion for the followrs and they begin

stating

> superiority of the name that they know or use to pray, If u know,

Swami

> PrabhuPaad, he founded Iskon, he stated above all there is Prahu

> Krishna, Krishna is the supreme God. What he was saying is there is

one

> Supreme God, whom he knows as Lord Krishna, This name for him is of

> supreme importance, mind it, while stating this, he w'd be undergoing

> the process of founding his faith, So, he w'd said this to himself,

Ok,

> Later on, followers w'd start taking it's lexical meaning, rather

trying

> to understand what was his intension and why he said it, One of such

> follower one's fallen in a discussion with me trying to say some other

> name take it " Shiva " is lower than " Krishna " . this sort of dogma has

> created havoc in the history. So, it should be made clear vey

carefully.

>

> 3. World is so large , so complext is, it's management and ur existnce

> is so small ur intellect is so less, never be Egoist, never be clever

> and never be greedy coz supreme intellect is there before and there so

> much in the world to give you to bless u with, u even dont imagine

what

> God can offer to you, so u be deserving, be fair etc.

>

> 4. You asked - " Can we knwn about all universe by any spirtual way " ,

I

> w'd say yes it is, in fact it's so easy, it's easy like typing a mail

> and posting to the group or switching on the fan or bulb.

>

> First take examples from the scriptures , In the mahabharata, there is

> astory, once maa yashoda made kid krishnaa's mouth open and saw whole

> univese within kids mouth, other story is , upon the request of

Arjuna,

> lord Krishna shown him his Viraat (large like universe) form or rup.

>

> Now, take it this way, who is Krishna, Krishna is a frightened man,

who

> has no will power to even fight a war, whose faith is shaken like you

or

> me, but he is curious and approaches the God, God loves him and

enables

> him to view the universal form (brahmaand) of lord itself.

>

> If it can happen to one Arjuna, it can happen to you or me also, what

> merit Arjuna has,certainly nothing better than you, still he got, you

> can also get it.

>

> Now how it happens, try to focus on ice particles, ice is solid, it

has

> it's shape and mass, but when it melts down, it has no shape of it's

> own, it can flow to a larger area, i mean it expands itself, now when

it

> evaporates then what happens, it expands larger area as in the gaseous

> stage it can cover up far more space..

>

> same is we human being, our soul get's mixed with 5 elemnts and with

> ego, we get a solid shape of our personality, we are like ice particle

> only. basic instincts like - ego, greed and sex binds u in some

> identity, you have to dissolve it's intensity as much as possible.

>

> for what u have ego - ur knowledge , ur's achievements, ur's success

> etc.., compare urself with world leaders, and then look at universe,

> earth is such a small entity and u r such a small particle in the

earth,

> what u have to put ego ?

>

> Sex, why u think always that u r a male and she is female, u r a soul

> and u have put on a body of male of female, it was ur's choice.

> biologically too, u have seen sex is a chnageable characteristic,

> spirituality too says same, i m forgtting about one King in some of

the

> Puraans, who once entered into a jungle and converted to a woman,

there

> she got married to a male and gave birth to kids, somehow he came out

of

> jungle and got his male form... now, he understood the sex is not a

> constant properity. take some feminine hormones and u can see, female

> sex organs are developing in you.

>

> So, from the state of ice particles u have to melt down, how, there

are

> various paths , one is mantra sadhnaa, i have realized this path ,

how,

> during the chant, when ur karma get's diluted, ur heart's impurities

> starts filtering and u feel strengthand liking for the truth, then u

> should understand, u r mantra is awakening you and after a period, u

> will see, u r no longer attached to ur existance, ur identity , ur

> personality, ur body etc, you will recognise the detachment, u will

see,

> u r putting on the mentioned things, and then u w'd begin njoying the

> drama of the world... why a person does a cunningness and why other

> helps him in it.... etc.

>

> The sort of natural detachement to is very important, when u realize,

u

> r not a person with a personality, ur desire for fame and respect is

> reduced...

>

> this detachement will return in attachement to others, coz u start

> thinking others are like me only, so u feel a sort of attachement or

> affection to one and all...

>

> now, when u realize it practically,ur conciousness starts getting

> connected to other's conciousness, u w'd have read that in some sages

> ashraam lion and man were living togather, how just of their

> conciousness.

>

> Now, God may bless u anytime and u will see, u r lively connected to

> God, u r dissolved to god and God is everywhere, God is in

verything...

> see, it's a matter of realization, not a matter of reading it and

> preeching to others..

>

> You will see, u r everywhere, coz u r within the God and God is

> omnipresent, next u will see, whole universe is within you.

>

> Even this stage is not ultimate, coz u though see, u r everywhere coz,

u

> r within the God.. i mean u w'd still know ur different being but

within

> the same God.., you will realize ur's as well as God's existance... ,

> but u can see ur's expansion to Galaxies.

>

> Now what remains is, to see one's completely getting dissolved into

> God. This is a state of Samadhi... , in this stage, as u are dissolved

> into God, u will see, only one's existance is there in the world.

>

> Best Regards,

> Lalit.

>

vedic astrology , Shindi sinhazz@ wrote:

> >

> > Hi Rohit,

> > Lemme correct you on one point astronomically.

> >

> > Right now we are in Saggitarian dwarf galaxy.... which is going to

> merge with another bigger galaxy known as milky way...in 2012 AD.

> >

> > But this is just an astronomical information.. I dont know anything

> else.

> >

> > Amit

> >

> > Pram Chopra pramchopra1964@

> > vedic astrology

> > Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:51:02 PM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Raman Sachdeva

> >

> > Dear Rohit

> >

> > God Bless U

> >

> > I am very glad that you are interested in those spiritual path I am

> Astro-Spiritual Master doing practice since 1984. The milky way of

> Galaxy is our Akash Ganga as we call it. yes we can know about other

> galaxies by spiritual practice. AS the time is not yet come to

disclose

> the facts about it. The time do not allow it to. Millons of Vishnu

means

> God have so many shapes that you can see almost in everything.

> Manupulations of things goes to Vishnu, innovations of creations goes

to

> Brahama. distroyer of explosives goes to Shiva.

> > one galaxy means one solar system. But due to explosives time do not

> allow to know about other planets living beings.

> >

> > A Foresight Prince of India

> > Pram Chopra

> >

> > rohit sood <rohit_sood76@ .co. in>

> > vedic astrology

> > Sunday, August 12, 2007 12:54:44 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Raman Sachdeva

> >

> > Dear Sir ,

> > With due respect , I want to knw about my future my self Raman

> Sachdeva , Male DOB 22-11-76 Time 6.22 AM Place Ludhiana .

> > Can I get enlightment in ds birth ???????????? ????????? ????

> > I have some question too , their are billions billions of planets ,

> million galaxies out which we live n milky way galaxy .All this

> creations is made by Lord vishnu .Is their life in any of these

galaxies

> . Can we knwn about all universe by any spirtual way .

> > One more question , in Gurubani their is one line guru granth sahib

> that their are millions millions vishnu , same millions brahma , same

> shiv and the uper the most Ram naam which is the main craetive

> formationof all universe .I totally agree with all ds .But what is the

> meaning of millions millions vishnu , brahma and shiv .

> > Can you make some enlightment in all those questions .

> > Waiting ,

> > Raman Sachdeva

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to

know

> how.

> >

August 13, 2007

Dear Raman,

I cant be a guru, no way , see, we have forgotten two basic

qualifiers for becoming guru.

1. A Person is having vision of God and appointed by God can only be

ur's spiritual Guru. Example : Bhagwan Sri Ramkrishna Paramhansha,

Guru Nanak etc.

2. A Person if Directed by a Guru of 1'st catagory can also act as a

guru, if Guru of 1'st catagory transfers all his tapas with the

approval of god to this person of 2nd catagory.

Example : Swami Vivekanada, Guru Govind Singh, Lahiri Mahashaya etc..

Now, dont get confused with Prachaarakaas, they are like message

givers, they cant be guru..

As i dont come in both the catagories, i cant be a guru, however, i

can be a friend, a true friend.. with who is not shy or hesitant in

sharing his experiences. and will help u in urs preperations. It's

true that God has given me it's vision and care both, but i have lot

many queries in my mind, i dont feel like i know anythnig great. all

what i know has been known from the ages, now we have to update our

spritual knowledge with recent developmments in medical science as

well as much much more has to be discovered like where and how soul

dwells in body, a simple question, answer is unknown from the ages..

regards,

Lalit.

vedic astrology , rohit sood <rohit_sood76

wrote:

>

> Thank you so much lalit jeeeeeeeeee for your very wonderful favour

and it been so so good and I will read again and try to implements

what u have suggest me ...

> I NEED YOUR FAVOUR AT ALL TIMES WHEN NEEDED ..SO ALWAYS BEEN MY

GURU .

> REGARDS,

> RAMAN SACHDEVA

>

> litsol <mishra.lalit wrote:

>

> Here, i Hapen to write Krishna in Place of Arjuna in the 4'th

points 3rd

> para.., It's too late 3:00 am and i m sleepy, pls. read it proper

> way.., now i have emboldened the " Arjuna " .

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

> =================================================================

>

> Dear Raman,

>

> I will explain it to you bit by bit and w'd confirm it with my

> experience, first let me ask mother's permission to make sure i m

not

> transgressing my limits... , ok it's there, i will tell u within my

> capacity.

>

> 1. Millions and millions of Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma : Means to not

to

> become conservative in ur religious beliefs, not to become narrow

> minded

> that divine is limited to it's one name or one characteristic, take

it

> this way, u know ur Visnu, but there is another Vishnu for other

being

> from a different place, culture, community,world, galaxy etc. So,

dont

> let down other's religion, dont kill them if they call the God with

> differnt name, this message should to be given to islamic scholars

to

> end religion sponsored terrorism.

>

> 2. Above all the Rama Naama, now, as u understand that every

> individual has same connection with God same as u do have, have same

> respect to every name of the God. but u discover ur's spirituality

> with

> ur name, ur own way..

>

> Here i will try to make it more clear, sometimes giving emphasis on

> one

> name by Saints creates confusion for the followrs and they begin

> stating

> superiority of the name that they know or use to pray, If u know,

> Swami

> PrabhuPaad, he founded Iskon, he stated above all there is Prahu

> Krishna, Krishna is the supreme God. What he was saying is there is

> one

> Supreme God, whom he knows as Lord Krishna, This name for him is of

> supreme importance, mind it, while stating this, he w'd be

undergoing

> the process of founding his faith, So, he w'd said this to himself,

> Ok,

> Later on, followers w'd start taking it's lexical meaning, rather

> trying

> to understand what was his intension and why he said it, One of such

> follower one's fallen in a discussion with me trying to say some

other

> name take it " Shiva " is lower than " Krishna " . this sort of dogma has

> created havoc in the history. So, it should be made clear vey

> carefully.

>

> 3. World is so large , so complext is, it's management and ur

existnce

> is so small ur intellect is so less, never be Egoist, never be

clever

> and never be greedy coz supreme intellect is there before and there

so

> much in the world to give you to bless u with, u even dont imagine

> what

> God can offer to you, so u be deserving, be fair etc.

>

> 4. You asked - " Can we knwn about all universe by any spirtual

way " ,

> I

> w'd say yes it is, in fact it's so easy, it's easy like typing a

mail

> and posting to the group or switching on the fan or bulb.

>

> First take examples from the scriptures , In the mahabharata, there

is

> astory, once maa yashoda made kid krishnaa's mouth open and saw

whole

> univese within kids mouth, other story is , upon the request of

> Arjuna,

> lord Krishna shown him his Viraat (large like universe) form or rup.

>

> Now, take it this way, who is Arjuna , Arjuna is a frightened man,

who

> has no will power to even fight a war, whose faith is shaken like

you

> or

> me, but he is curious and approaches the God, God loves him and

> enables

> him to view the universal form (brahmaand) of lord itself.

>

> If it can happen to one Arjuna, it can happen to you or me also,

what

> merit Arjuna has,certainly nothing better than you, still he got,

you

> can also get it.

>

> Now how it happens, try to focus on ice particles, ice is solid, it

> has

> it's shape and mass, but when it melts down, it has no shape of it's

> own, it can flow to a larger area, i mean it expands itself, now

when

> it

> evaporates then what happens, it expands larger area as in the

gaseous

> stage it can cover up far more space..

>

> same is we human being, our soul get's mixed with 5 elemnts and with

> ego, we get a solid shape of our personality, we are like ice

particle

> only. basic instincts like - ego, greed and sex binds u in some

> identity, you have to dissolve it's intensity as much as possible.

>

> for what u have ego - ur knowledge , ur's achievements, ur's success

> etc.., compare urself with world leaders, and then look at universe,

> earth is such a small entity and u r such a small particle in the

> earth,

> what u have to put ego ?

>

> Sex, why u think always that u r a male and she is female, u r a

soul

> and u have put on a body of male of female, it was ur's choice.

> biologically too, u have seen sex is a chnageable characteristic,

> spirituality too says same, i m forgtting about one King in some of

> the

> Puraans, who once entered into a jungle and converted to a woman,

> there

> she got married to a male and gave birth to kids, somehow he came

out

> of

> jungle and got his male form... now, he understood the sex is not a

> constant properity. take some feminine hormones and u can see,

female

> sex organs are developing in you.

>

> So, from the state of ice particles u have to melt down, how, there

> are

> various paths , one is mantra sadhnaa, i have realized this path ,

> how,

> during the chant, when ur karma get's diluted, ur heart's impurities

> starts filtering and u feel strengthand liking for the truth, then u

> should understand, u r mantra is awakening you and after a period, u

> will see, u r no longer attached to ur existance, ur identity , ur

> personality, ur body etc, you will recognise the detachment, u will

> see,

> u r putting on the mentioned things, and then u w'd begin njoying

the

> drama of the world... why a person does a cunningness and why other

> helps him in it.... etc.

>

> The sort of natural detachement to is very important, when u

realize,

> u

> r not a person with a personality, ur desire for fame and respect is

> reduced...

>

> this detachement will return in attachement to others, coz u start

> thinking others are like me only, so u feel a sort of attachement or

> affection to one and all...

>

> now, when u realize it practically,ur conciousness starts getting

> connected to other's conciousness, u w'd have read that in some

sages

> ashraam lion and man were living togather, how just of their

> conciousness.

>

> Now, God may bless u anytime and u will see, u r lively connected to

> God, u r dissolved to god and God is everywhere, God is in

> verything...

> see, it's a matter of realization, not a matter of reading it and

> preeching to others..

>

> You will see, u r everywhere, coz u r within the God and God is

> omnipresent, next u will see, whole universe is within you.

>

> Even this stage is not ultimate, coz u though see, u r everywhere

coz,

> u

> r within the God.. i mean u w'd still know ur different being but

> within

> the same God.., you will realize ur's as well as God's

existance... ,

> but u can see ur's expansion to Galaxies.

>

> Now what remains is, to see one's completely getting dissolved into

> God. This is a state of Samadhi... , in this stage, as u are

dissolved

> into God, u will see, only one's existance is there in the world.

>

> Best Regards,

> Lalit.

>

> vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Raman,

> >

> > I will explain it to you bit by bit and w'd confirm it with my

> > experience, first let me ask mother's permission to make sure i m

not

> > transgressing my limits... , ok it's there, i will tell u within

my

> > capacity.

> >

> > 1. Millions and millions of Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma : Means to

not to

> > become conservative in ur religious beliefs, not to become narrow

> minded

> > that divine is limited to it's one name or one characteristic,

take it

> > this way, u know ur Visnu, but there is another Vishnu for other

being

> > from a different place, culture, community,world, galaxy etc. So,

dont

> > let down other's religion, dont kill them if they call the God

with

> > differnt name, this message should to be given to islamic

scholars to

> > end religion sponsored terrorism.

> >

> > 2. Above all the Rama Naama, now, as u understand that every

> > individual has same connection with God same as u do have, have

same

> > respect to every name of the God. but u discover ur's spirituality

> with

> > ur name, ur own way..

> >

> > Here i will try to make it more clear, sometimes giving emphasis

on

> one

> > name by Saints creates confusion for the followrs and they begin

> stating

> > superiority of the name that they know or use to pray, If u know,

> Swami

> > PrabhuPaad, he founded Iskon, he stated above all there is Prahu

> > Krishna, Krishna is the supreme God. What he was saying is there

is

> one

> > Supreme God, whom he knows as Lord Krishna, This name for him is

of

> > supreme importance, mind it, while stating this, he w'd be

undergoing

> > the process of founding his faith, So, he w'd said this to

himself,

> Ok,

> > Later on, followers w'd start taking it's lexical meaning, rather

> trying

> > to understand what was his intension and why he said it, One of

such

> > follower one's fallen in a discussion with me trying to say some

other

> > name take it " Shiva " is lower than " Krishna " . this sort of dogma

has

> > created havoc in the history. So, it should be made clear vey

> carefully.

> >

> > 3. World is so large , so complext is, it's management and ur

existnce

> > is so small ur intellect is so less, never be Egoist, never be

clever

> > and never be greedy coz supreme intellect is there before and

there so

> > much in the world to give you to bless u with, u even dont imagine

> what

> > God can offer to you, so u be deserving, be fair etc.

> >

> > 4. You asked - " Can we knwn about all universe by any spirtual

way " ,

> I

> > w'd say yes it is, in fact it's so easy, it's easy like typing a

mail

> > and posting to the group or switching on the fan or bulb.

> >

> > First take examples from the scriptures , In the mahabharata,

there is

> > astory, once maa yashoda made kid krishnaa's mouth open and saw

whole

> > univese within kids mouth, other story is , upon the request of

> Arjuna,

> > lord Krishna shown him his Viraat (large like universe) form or

rup.

> >

> > Now, take it this way, who is Krishna, Krishna is a frightened

man,

> who

> > has no will power to even fight a war, whose faith is shaken like

you

> or

> > me, but he is curious and approaches the God, God loves him and

> enables

> > him to view the universal form (brahmaand) of lord itself.

> >

> > If it can happen to one Arjuna, it can happen to you or me also,

what

> > merit Arjuna has,certainly nothing better than you, still he got,

you

> > can also get it.

> >

> > Now how it happens, try to focus on ice particles, ice is solid,

it

> has

> > it's shape and mass, but when it melts down, it has no shape of

it's

> > own, it can flow to a larger area, i mean it expands itself, now

when

> it

> > evaporates then what happens, it expands larger area as in the

gaseous

> > stage it can cover up far more space..

> >

> > same is we human being, our soul get's mixed with 5 elemnts and

with

> > ego, we get a solid shape of our personality, we are like ice

particle

> > only. basic instincts like - ego, greed and sex binds u in some

> > identity, you have to dissolve it's intensity as much as possible.

> >

> > for what u have ego - ur knowledge , ur's achievements, ur's

success

> > etc.., compare urself with world leaders, and then look at

universe,

> > earth is such a small entity and u r such a small particle in the

> earth,

> > what u have to put ego ?

> >

> > Sex, why u think always that u r a male and she is female, u r a

soul

> > and u have put on a body of male of female, it was ur's choice.

> > biologically too, u have seen sex is a chnageable characteristic,

> > spirituality too says same, i m forgtting about one King in some

of

> the

> > Puraans, who once entered into a jungle and converted to a woman,

> there

> > she got married to a male and gave birth to kids, somehow he came

out

> of

> > jungle and got his male form... now, he understood the sex is not

a

> > constant properity. take some feminine hormones and u can see,

female

> > sex organs are developing in you.

> >

> > So, from the state of ice particles u have to melt down, how,

there

> are

> > various paths , one is mantra sadhnaa, i have realized this path ,

> how,

> > during the chant, when ur karma get's diluted, ur heart's

impurities

> > starts filtering and u feel strengthand liking for the truth,

then u

> > should understand, u r mantra is awakening you and after a

period, u

> > will see, u r no longer attached to ur existance, ur identity , ur

> > personality, ur body etc, you will recognise the detachment, u

will

> see,

> > u r putting on the mentioned things, and then u w'd begin njoying

the

> > drama of the world... why a person does a cunningness and why

other

> > helps him in it.... etc.

> >

> > The sort of natural detachement to is very important, when u

realize,

> u

> > r not a person with a personality, ur desire for fame and respect

is

> > reduced...

> >

> > this detachement will return in attachement to others, coz u start

> > thinking others are like me only, so u feel a sort of attachement

or

> > affection to one and all...

> >

> > now, when u realize it practically,ur conciousness starts getting

> > connected to other's conciousness, u w'd have read that in some

sages

> > ashraam lion and man were living togather, how just of their

> > conciousness.

> >

> > Now, God may bless u anytime and u will see, u r lively connected

to

> > God, u r dissolved to god and God is everywhere, God is in

> verything...

> > see, it's a matter of realization, not a matter of reading it and

> > preeching to others..

> >

> > You will see, u r everywhere, coz u r within the God and God is

> > omnipresent, next u will see, whole universe is within you.

> >

> > Even this stage is not ultimate, coz u though see, u r everywhere

coz,

> u

> > r within the God.. i mean u w'd still know ur different being but

> within

> > the same God.., you will realize ur's as well as God's

existance... ,

> > but u can see ur's expansion to Galaxies.

> >

> > Now what remains is, to see one's completely getting dissolved

into

> > God. This is a state of Samadhi... , in this stage, as u are

dissolved

> > into God, u will see, only one's existance is there in the world.

> >

> > Best Regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > vedic astrology , Shindi sinhazz@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Rohit,

> > > Lemme correct you on one point astronomically.

> > >

> > > Right now we are in Saggitarian dwarf galaxy.... which is going

to

> > merge with another bigger galaxy known as milky way...in 2012 AD.

> > >

> > > But this is just an astronomical information.. I dont know

anything

> > else.

> > >

> > > Amit

> > >

> > > Pram Chopra pramchopra1964@

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:51:02 PM

> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Raman Sachdeva

> > >

> > > Dear Rohit

> > >

> > > God Bless U

> > >

> > > I am very glad that you are interested in those spiritual path

I am

> > Astro-Spiritual Master doing practice since 1984. The milky way of

> > Galaxy is our Akash Ganga as we call it. yes we can know about

other

> > galaxies by spiritual practice. AS the time is not yet come to

> disclose

> > the facts about it. The time do not allow it to. Millons of Vishnu

> means

> > God have so many shapes that you can see almost in everything.

> > Manupulations of things goes to Vishnu, innovations of creations

goes

> to

> > Brahama. distroyer of explosives goes to Shiva.

> > > one galaxy means one solar system. But due to explosives time

do not

> > allow to know about other planets living beings.

> > >

> > > A Foresight Prince of India

> > > Pram Chopra

> > >

> > > rohit sood <rohit_sood76@ .co. in>

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Sunday, August 12, 2007 12:54:44 PM

> > > [vedic astrology] Raman Sachdeva

> > >

> > > Dear Sir ,

> > > With due respect , I want to knw about my future my self Raman

> > Sachdeva , Male DOB 22-11-76 Time 6.22 AM Place Ludhiana .

> > > Can I get enlightment in ds birth ???????????? ????????? ????

> > > I have some question too , their are billions billions of

planets ,

> > million galaxies out which we live n milky way galaxy .All this

> > creations is made by Lord vishnu .Is their life in any of these

> galaxies

> > . Can we knwn about all universe by any spirtual way .

> > > One more question , in Gurubani their is one line guru granth

sahib

> > that their are millions millions vishnu , same millions brahma ,

same

> > shiv and the uper the most Ram naam which is the main craetive

> > formationof all universe .I totally agree with all ds .But what

is the

> > meaning of millions millions vishnu , brahma and shiv .

> > > Can you make some enlightment in all those questions .

> > > Waiting ,

> > > Raman Sachdeva

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to

> know

> > how.

> > >

August 13, 2007

Oye Lalith:

first you should be truthful and keep your word to be even a normal

man - leave alone a Guru.

You said you will leave all through last week; why are you here? You

shameless creature.

At least did you apologize to the group? Because of you many seekers

lost a wonderful Guide who was teaching them wonderful nuances of

astrology. He shared his knowledge selflessly all along; yet you are

heaping abuses upon him, and are still doing so.

Hey Liar! If you have any sense of decency and if you are from a

good family just get lost; or at least keep quiet and learn from what

the remaining experts here can teach you.

You ought to be put in jail for practising astrology without

responsibility. You are spreading false philosophies about astrology

and countering traditions unnecessarily. join an atheist group and

leave this vedic group to its pristine glory. Before you came here,

everything was good.

I will not continue here. This is my last post here. But, think,

whether you have any shame; having said you will leave the group you

are still continuing and leeching the group; shameless bugger!

Mohanraaam.

vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit

wrote:

>

> Dear Raman,

>

> I cant be a guru, no way , see, we have forgotten two basic

> qualifiers for becoming guru.

>

> 1. A Person is having vision of God and appointed by God can only

be

> ur's spiritual Guru. Example : Bhagwan Sri Ramkrishna Paramhansha,

> Guru Nanak etc.

>

> 2. A Person if Directed by a Guru of 1'st catagory can also act as

a

> guru, if Guru of 1'st catagory transfers all his tapas with the

> approval of god to this person of 2nd catagory.

>

> Example : Swami Vivekanada, Guru Govind Singh, Lahiri Mahashaya

etc..

>

> Now, dont get confused with Prachaarakaas, they are like message

> givers, they cant be guru..

>

> As i dont come in both the catagories, i cant be a guru, however, i

> can be a friend, a true friend.. with who is not shy or hesitant

in

> sharing his experiences. and will help u in urs preperations. It's

> true that God has given me it's vision and care both, but i have

lot

> many queries in my mind, i dont feel like i know anythnig great.

all

> what i know has been known from the ages, now we have to update our

> spritual knowledge with recent developmments in medical science as

> well as much much more has to be discovered like where and how soul

> dwells in body, a simple question, answer is unknown from the ages..

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

vedic astrology , rohit sood <rohit_sood76@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Thank you so much lalit jeeeeeeeeee for your very wonderful

favour

> and it been so so good and I will read again and try to implements

> what u have suggest me ...

> > I NEED YOUR FAVOUR AT ALL TIMES WHEN NEEDED ..SO ALWAYS BEEN

MY

> GURU .

> > REGARDS,

> > RAMAN SACHDEVA

> >

> > litsol <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> >

> > Here, i Hapen to write Krishna in Place of Arjuna in the 4'th

> points 3rd

> > para.., It's too late 3:00 am and i m sleepy, pls. read it proper

> > way.., now i have emboldened the " Arjuna " .

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> > =================================================================

> >

> > Dear Raman,

> >

> > I will explain it to you bit by bit and w'd confirm it with my

> > experience, first let me ask mother's permission to make sure i m

> not

> > transgressing my limits... , ok it's there, i will tell u within

my

> > capacity.

> >

> > 1. Millions and millions of Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma : Means to

not

> to

> > become conservative in ur religious beliefs, not to become narrow

> > minded

> > that divine is limited to it's one name or one characteristic,

take

> it

> > this way, u know ur Visnu, but there is another Vishnu for other

> being

> > from a different place, culture, community,world, galaxy etc. So,

> dont

> > let down other's religion, dont kill them if they call the God

with

> > differnt name, this message should to be given to islamic

scholars

> to

> > end religion sponsored terrorism.

> >

> > 2. Above all the Rama Naama, now, as u understand that every

> > individual has same connection with God same as u do have, have

same

> > respect to every name of the God. but u discover ur's spirituality

> > with

> > ur name, ur own way..

> >

> > Here i will try to make it more clear, sometimes giving emphasis

on

> > one

> > name by Saints creates confusion for the followrs and they begin

> > stating

> > superiority of the name that they know or use to pray, If u know,

> > Swami

> > PrabhuPaad, he founded Iskon, he stated above all there is Prahu

> > Krishna, Krishna is the supreme God. What he was saying is there

is

> > one

> > Supreme God, whom he knows as Lord Krishna, This name for him is

of

> > supreme importance, mind it, while stating this, he w'd be

> undergoing

> > the process of founding his faith, So, he w'd said this to

himself,

> > Ok,

> > Later on, followers w'd start taking it's lexical meaning, rather

> > trying

> > to understand what was his intension and why he said it, One of

such

> > follower one's fallen in a discussion with me trying to say some

> other

> > name take it " Shiva " is lower than " Krishna " . this sort of dogma

has

> > created havoc in the history. So, it should be made clear vey

> > carefully.

> >

> > 3. World is so large , so complext is, it's management and ur

> existnce

> > is so small ur intellect is so less, never be Egoist, never be

> clever

> > and never be greedy coz supreme intellect is there before and

there

> so

> > much in the world to give you to bless u with, u even dont imagine

> > what

> > God can offer to you, so u be deserving, be fair etc.

> >

> > 4. You asked - " Can we knwn about all universe by any spirtual

> way " ,

> > I

> > w'd say yes it is, in fact it's so easy, it's easy like typing a

> mail

> > and posting to the group or switching on the fan or bulb.

> >

> > First take examples from the scriptures , In the mahabharata,

there

> is

> > astory, once maa yashoda made kid krishnaa's mouth open and saw

> whole

> > univese within kids mouth, other story is , upon the request of

> > Arjuna,

> > lord Krishna shown him his Viraat (large like universe) form or

rup.

> >

> > Now, take it this way, who is Arjuna , Arjuna is a frightened

man,

> who

> > has no will power to even fight a war, whose faith is shaken like

> you

> > or

> > me, but he is curious and approaches the God, God loves him and

> > enables

> > him to view the universal form (brahmaand) of lord itself.

> >

> > If it can happen to one Arjuna, it can happen to you or me also,

> what

> > merit Arjuna has,certainly nothing better than you, still he got,

> you

> > can also get it.

> >

> > Now how it happens, try to focus on ice particles, ice is solid,

it

> > has

> > it's shape and mass, but when it melts down, it has no shape of

it's

> > own, it can flow to a larger area, i mean it expands itself, now

> when

> > it

> > evaporates then what happens, it expands larger area as in the

> gaseous

> > stage it can cover up far more space..

> >

> > same is we human being, our soul get's mixed with 5 elemnts and

with

> > ego, we get a solid shape of our personality, we are like ice

> particle

> > only. basic instincts like - ego, greed and sex binds u in some

> > identity, you have to dissolve it's intensity as much as possible.

> >

> > for what u have ego - ur knowledge , ur's achievements, ur's

success

> > etc.., compare urself with world leaders, and then look at

universe,

> > earth is such a small entity and u r such a small particle in the

> > earth,

> > what u have to put ego ?

> >

> > Sex, why u think always that u r a male and she is female, u r a

> soul

> > and u have put on a body of male of female, it was ur's choice.

> > biologically too, u have seen sex is a chnageable characteristic,

> > spirituality too says same, i m forgtting about one King in some

of

> > the

> > Puraans, who once entered into a jungle and converted to a woman,

> > there

> > she got married to a male and gave birth to kids, somehow he came

> out

> > of

> > jungle and got his male form... now, he understood the sex is not

a

> > constant properity. take some feminine hormones and u can see,

> female

> > sex organs are developing in you.

> >

> > So, from the state of ice particles u have to melt down, how,

there

> > are

> > various paths , one is mantra sadhnaa, i have realized this path ,

> > how,

> > during the chant, when ur karma get's diluted, ur heart's

impurities

> > starts filtering and u feel strengthand liking for the truth,

then u

> > should understand, u r mantra is awakening you and after a

period, u

> > will see, u r no longer attached to ur existance, ur identity , ur

> > personality, ur body etc, you will recognise the detachment, u

will

> > see,

> > u r putting on the mentioned things, and then u w'd begin njoying

> the

> > drama of the world... why a person does a cunningness and why

other

> > helps him in it.... etc.

> >

> > The sort of natural detachement to is very important, when u

> realize,

> > u

> > r not a person with a personality, ur desire for fame and respect

is

> > reduced...

> >

> > this detachement will return in attachement to others, coz u start

> > thinking others are like me only, so u feel a sort of attachement

or

> > affection to one and all...

> >

> > now, when u realize it practically,ur conciousness starts getting

> > connected to other's conciousness, u w'd have read that in some

> sages

> > ashraam lion and man were living togather, how just of their

> > conciousness.

> >

> > Now, God may bless u anytime and u will see, u r lively connected

to

> > God, u r dissolved to god and God is everywhere, God is in

> > verything...

> > see, it's a matter of realization, not a matter of reading it and

> > preeching to others..

> >

> > You will see, u r everywhere, coz u r within the God and God is

> > omnipresent, next u will see, whole universe is within you.

> >

> > Even this stage is not ultimate, coz u though see, u r everywhere

> coz,

> > u

> > r within the God.. i mean u w'd still know ur different being but

> > within

> > the same God.., you will realize ur's as well as God's

> existance... ,

> > but u can see ur's expansion to Galaxies.

> >

> > Now what remains is, to see one's completely getting dissolved

into

> > God. This is a state of Samadhi... , in this stage, as u are

> dissolved

> > into God, u will see, only one's existance is there in the world.

> >

> > Best Regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Raman,

> > >

> > > I will explain it to you bit by bit and w'd confirm it with my

> > > experience, first let me ask mother's permission to make sure i

m

> not

> > > transgressing my limits... , ok it's there, i will tell u

within

> my

> > > capacity.

> > >

> > > 1. Millions and millions of Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma : Means to

> not to

> > > become conservative in ur religious beliefs, not to become

narrow

> > minded

> > > that divine is limited to it's one name or one characteristic,

> take it

> > > this way, u know ur Visnu, but there is another Vishnu for

other

> being

> > > from a different place, culture, community,world, galaxy etc.

So,

> dont

> > > let down other's religion, dont kill them if they call the God

> with

> > > differnt name, this message should to be given to islamic

> scholars to

> > > end religion sponsored terrorism.

> > >

> > > 2. Above all the Rama Naama, now, as u understand that every

> > > individual has same connection with God same as u do have, have

> same

> > > respect to every name of the God. but u discover ur's

spirituality

> > with

> > > ur name, ur own way..

> > >

> > > Here i will try to make it more clear, sometimes giving

emphasis

> on

> > one

> > > name by Saints creates confusion for the followrs and they begin

> > stating

> > > superiority of the name that they know or use to pray, If u

know,

> > Swami

> > > PrabhuPaad, he founded Iskon, he stated above all there is Prahu

> > > Krishna, Krishna is the supreme God. What he was saying is

there

> is

> > one

> > > Supreme God, whom he knows as Lord Krishna, This name for him

is

> of

> > > supreme importance, mind it, while stating this, he w'd be

> undergoing

> > > the process of founding his faith, So, he w'd said this to

> himself,

> > Ok,

> > > Later on, followers w'd start taking it's lexical meaning,

rather

> > trying

> > > to understand what was his intension and why he said it, One of

> such

> > > follower one's fallen in a discussion with me trying to say

some

> other

> > > name take it " Shiva " is lower than " Krishna " . this sort of

dogma

> has

> > > created havoc in the history. So, it should be made clear vey

> > carefully.

> > >

> > > 3. World is so large , so complext is, it's management and ur

> existnce

> > > is so small ur intellect is so less, never be Egoist, never be

> clever

> > > and never be greedy coz supreme intellect is there before and

> there so

> > > much in the world to give you to bless u with, u even dont

imagine

> > what

> > > God can offer to you, so u be deserving, be fair etc.

> > >

> > > 4. You asked - " Can we knwn about all universe by any spirtual

> way " ,

> > I

> > > w'd say yes it is, in fact it's so easy, it's easy like typing

a

> mail

> > > and posting to the group or switching on the fan or bulb.

> > >

> > > First take examples from the scriptures , In the mahabharata,

> there is

> > > astory, once maa yashoda made kid krishnaa's mouth open and saw

> whole

> > > univese within kids mouth, other story is , upon the request of

> > Arjuna,

> > > lord Krishna shown him his Viraat (large like universe) form or

> rup.

> > >

> > > Now, take it this way, who is Krishna, Krishna is a frightened

> man,

> > who

> > > has no will power to even fight a war, whose faith is shaken

like

> you

> > or

> > > me, but he is curious and approaches the God, God loves him and

> > enables

> > > him to view the universal form (brahmaand) of lord itself.

> > >

> > > If it can happen to one Arjuna, it can happen to you or me

also,

> what

> > > merit Arjuna has,certainly nothing better than you, still he

got,

> you

> > > can also get it.

> > >

> > > Now how it happens, try to focus on ice particles, ice is

solid,

> it

> > has

> > > it's shape and mass, but when it melts down, it has no shape of

> it's

> > > own, it can flow to a larger area, i mean it expands itself,

now

> when

> > it

> > > evaporates then what happens, it expands larger area as in the

> gaseous

> > > stage it can cover up far more space..

> > >

> > > same is we human being, our soul get's mixed with 5 elemnts and

> with

> > > ego, we get a solid shape of our personality, we are like ice

> particle

> > > only. basic instincts like - ego, greed and sex binds u in some

> > > identity, you have to dissolve it's intensity as much as

possible.

> > >

> > > for what u have ego - ur knowledge , ur's achievements, ur's

> success

> > > etc.., compare urself with world leaders, and then look at

> universe,

> > > earth is such a small entity and u r such a small particle in

the

> > earth,

> > > what u have to put ego ?

> > >

> > > Sex, why u think always that u r a male and she is female, u r

a

> soul

> > > and u have put on a body of male of female, it was ur's choice.

> > > biologically too, u have seen sex is a chnageable

characteristic,

> > > spirituality too says same, i m forgtting about one King in

some

> of

> > the

> > > Puraans, who once entered into a jungle and converted to a

woman,

> > there

> > > she got married to a male and gave birth to kids, somehow he

came

> out

> > of

> > > jungle and got his male form... now, he understood the sex is

not

> a

> > > constant properity. take some feminine hormones and u can see,

> female

> > > sex organs are developing in you.

> > >

> > > So, from the state of ice particles u have to melt down, how,

> there

> > are

> > > various paths , one is mantra sadhnaa, i have realized this

path ,

> > how,

> > > during the chant, when ur karma get's diluted, ur heart's

> impurities

> > > starts filtering and u feel strengthand liking for the truth,

> then u

> > > should understand, u r mantra is awakening you and after a

> period, u

> > > will see, u r no longer attached to ur existance, ur identity ,

ur

> > > personality, ur body etc, you will recognise the detachment, u

> will

> > see,

> > > u r putting on the mentioned things, and then u w'd begin

njoying

> the

> > > drama of the world... why a person does a cunningness and why

> other

> > > helps him in it.... etc.

> > >

> > > The sort of natural detachement to is very important, when u

> realize,

> > u

> > > r not a person with a personality, ur desire for fame and

respect

> is

> > > reduced...

> > >

> > > this detachement will return in attachement to others, coz u

start

> > > thinking others are like me only, so u feel a sort of

attachement

> or

> > > affection to one and all...

> > >

> > > now, when u realize it practically,ur conciousness starts

getting

> > > connected to other's conciousness, u w'd have read that in some

> sages

> > > ashraam lion and man were living togather, how just of their

> > > conciousness.

> > >

> > > Now, God may bless u anytime and u will see, u r lively

connected

> to

> > > God, u r dissolved to god and God is everywhere, God is in

> > verything...

> > > see, it's a matter of realization, not a matter of reading it

and

> > > preeching to others..

> > >

> > > You will see, u r everywhere, coz u r within the God and God is

> > > omnipresent, next u will see, whole universe is within you.

> > >

> > > Even this stage is not ultimate, coz u though see, u r

everywhere

> coz,

> > u

> > > r within the God.. i mean u w'd still know ur different being

but

> > within

> > > the same God.., you will realize ur's as well as God's

> existance... ,

> > > but u can see ur's expansion to Galaxies.

> > >

> > > Now what remains is, to see one's completely getting dissolved

> into

> > > God. This is a state of Samadhi... , in this stage, as u are

> dissolved

> > > into God, u will see, only one's existance is there in the

world.

> > >

> > > Best Regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , Shindi sinhazz@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi Rohit,

> > > > Lemme correct you on one point astronomically.

> > > >

> > > > Right now we are in Saggitarian dwarf galaxy.... which is

going

> to

> > > merge with another bigger galaxy known as milky way...in 2012

AD.

> > > >

> > > > But this is just an astronomical information.. I dont know

> anything

> > > else.

> > > >

> > > > Amit

> > > >

> > > > Pram Chopra pramchopra1964@

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:51:02 PM

> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Raman Sachdeva

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohit

> > > >

> > > > God Bless U

> > > >

> > > > I am very glad that you are interested in those spiritual

path

> I am

> > > Astro-Spiritual Master doing practice since 1984. The milky way

of

> > > Galaxy is our Akash Ganga as we call it. yes we can know about

> other

> > > galaxies by spiritual practice. AS the time is not yet come to

> > disclose

> > > the facts about it. The time do not allow it to. Millons of

Vishnu

> > means

> > > God have so many shapes that you can see almost in everything.

> > > Manupulations of things goes to Vishnu, innovations of

creations

> goes

> > to

> > > Brahama. distroyer of explosives goes to Shiva.

> > > > one galaxy means one solar system. But due to explosives time

> do not

> > > allow to know about other planets living beings.

> > > >

> > > > A Foresight Prince of India

> > > > Pram Chopra

> > > >

> > > > rohit sood <rohit_sood76@ .co. in>

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Sunday, August 12, 2007 12:54:44 PM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Raman Sachdeva

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sir ,

> > > > With due respect , I want to knw about my future my self Raman

> > > Sachdeva , Male DOB 22-11-76 Time 6.22 AM Place Ludhiana .

> > > > Can I get enlightment in ds birth ???????????? ????????? ????

> > > > I have some question too , their are billions billions of

> planets ,

> > > million galaxies out which we live n milky way galaxy .All this

> > > creations is made by Lord vishnu .Is their life in any of these

> > galaxies

> > > . Can we knwn about all universe by any spirtual way .

> > > > One more question , in Gurubani their is one line guru granth

> sahib

> > > that their are millions millions vishnu , same millions

brahma ,

> same

> > > shiv and the uper the most Ram naam which is the main craetive

> > > formationof all universe .I totally agree with all ds .But what

> is the

> > > meaning of millions millions vishnu , brahma and shiv .

> > > > Can you make some enlightment in all those questions .

> > > > Waiting ,

> > > > Raman Sachdeva

> > > >

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here

to

> > know

> > > how.

> > > >

August 13, 2007

Dear Pandit DKM,

I have left the group but joined later on though the same day, after

seenig the mail from Jai Gurudev, and how could i leave, I had to

clean the group.

Group's mails, u can access without it's membership. So, i was able

to watch and read all the messages.

You also dont bother, if u leave the group, u can still learn coz, u

can see the mails.

Pandit, You took wrong approach, instead of ur's knowledge u had to

show ur's " Neeyat - chastity and ur's ethics " but u lack these two

qualities, The terror that u spread here about ur's Occult Power has

fallen back on ur's head.

Why u did this sort of drama, If u acted as a Astrologer only, you

could get same respect, had u been a good man, u w'd not have used

Mohanraam and Abhishek's ID. and u w'd not have afraid of getting

caught up re handed.

So, life is not ended, still u can change ur heart and be a good man.

do a prayashita and we all are with u in ur prayashita.

we dont hate you, Pandit. You are a misguided soul, come back to

track, we will pick u up.

~Lalit.

vedic astrology , " mohanraaam " <mohanraaam

wrote:

>

> Oye Lalith:

>

> first you should be truthful and keep your word to be even a normal

> man - leave alone a Guru.

>

> You said you will leave all through last week; why are you here?

You

> shameless creature.

>

> At least did you apologize to the group? Because of you many

seekers

> lost a wonderful Guide who was teaching them wonderful nuances of

> astrology. He shared his knowledge selflessly all along; yet you

are

> heaping abuses upon him, and are still doing so.

>

> Hey Liar! If you have any sense of decency and if you are from a

> good family just get lost; or at least keep quiet and learn from

what

> the remaining experts here can teach you.

>

> You ought to be put in jail for practising astrology without

> responsibility. You are spreading false philosophies about

astrology

> and countering traditions unnecessarily. join an atheist group and

> leave this vedic group to its pristine glory. Before you came

here,

> everything was good.

>

> I will not continue here. This is my last post here. But, think,

> whether you have any shame; having said you will leave the group

you

> are still continuing and leeching the group; shameless bugger!

>

> Mohanraaam.

> vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Raman,

> >

> > I cant be a guru, no way , see, we have forgotten two basic

> > qualifiers for becoming guru.

> >

> > 1. A Person is having vision of God and appointed by God can

only

> be

> > ur's spiritual Guru. Example : Bhagwan Sri Ramkrishna

Paramhansha,

> > Guru Nanak etc.

> >

> > 2. A Person if Directed by a Guru of 1'st catagory can also act

as

> a

> > guru, if Guru of 1'st catagory transfers all his tapas with the

> > approval of god to this person of 2nd catagory.

> >

> > Example : Swami Vivekanada, Guru Govind Singh, Lahiri Mahashaya

> etc..

> >

> > Now, dont get confused with Prachaarakaas, they are like message

> > givers, they cant be guru..

> >

> > As i dont come in both the catagories, i cant be a guru, however,

i

> > can be a friend, a true friend.. with who is not shy or hesitant

> in

> > sharing his experiences. and will help u in urs preperations.

It's

> > true that God has given me it's vision and care both, but i have

> lot

> > many queries in my mind, i dont feel like i know anythnig great.

> all

> > what i know has been known from the ages, now we have to update

our

> > spritual knowledge with recent developmments in medical science

as

> > well as much much more has to be discovered like where and how

soul

> > dwells in body, a simple question, answer is unknown from the

ages..

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > vedic astrology , rohit sood

<rohit_sood76@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Thank you so much lalit jeeeeeeeeee for your very wonderful

> favour

> > and it been so so good and I will read again and try to

implements

> > what u have suggest me ...

> > > I NEED YOUR FAVOUR AT ALL TIMES WHEN NEEDED ..SO ALWAYS BEEN

> MY

> > GURU .

> > > REGARDS,

> > > RAMAN SACHDEVA

> > >

> > > litsol <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Here, i Hapen to write Krishna in Place of Arjuna in the 4'th

> > points 3rd

> > > para.., It's too late 3:00 am and i m sleepy, pls. read it

proper

> > > way.., now i have emboldened the " Arjuna " .

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

=================================================================

> > >

> > > Dear Raman,

> > >

> > > I will explain it to you bit by bit and w'd confirm it with my

> > > experience, first let me ask mother's permission to make sure i

m

> > not

> > > transgressing my limits... , ok it's there, i will tell u

within

> my

> > > capacity.

> > >

> > > 1. Millions and millions of Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma : Means to

> not

> > to

> > > become conservative in ur religious beliefs, not to become

narrow

> > > minded

> > > that divine is limited to it's one name or one characteristic,

> take

> > it

> > > this way, u know ur Visnu, but there is another Vishnu for

other

> > being

> > > from a different place, culture, community,world, galaxy etc.

So,

> > dont

> > > let down other's religion, dont kill them if they call the God

> with

> > > differnt name, this message should to be given to islamic

> scholars

> > to

> > > end religion sponsored terrorism.

> > >

> > > 2. Above all the Rama Naama, now, as u understand that every

> > > individual has same connection with God same as u do have, have

> same

> > > respect to every name of the God. but u discover ur's

spirituality

> > > with

> > > ur name, ur own way..

> > >

> > > Here i will try to make it more clear, sometimes giving

emphasis

> on

> > > one

> > > name by Saints creates confusion for the followrs and they begin

> > > stating

> > > superiority of the name that they know or use to pray, If u

know,

> > > Swami

> > > PrabhuPaad, he founded Iskon, he stated above all there is Prahu

> > > Krishna, Krishna is the supreme God. What he was saying is

there

> is

> > > one

> > > Supreme God, whom he knows as Lord Krishna, This name for him

is

> of

> > > supreme importance, mind it, while stating this, he w'd be

> > undergoing

> > > the process of founding his faith, So, he w'd said this to

> himself,

> > > Ok,

> > > Later on, followers w'd start taking it's lexical meaning,

rather

> > > trying

> > > to understand what was his intension and why he said it, One of

> such

> > > follower one's fallen in a discussion with me trying to say

some

> > other

> > > name take it " Shiva " is lower than " Krishna " . this sort of

dogma

> has

> > > created havoc in the history. So, it should be made clear vey

> > > carefully.

> > >

> > > 3. World is so large , so complext is, it's management and ur

> > existnce

> > > is so small ur intellect is so less, never be Egoist, never be

> > clever

> > > and never be greedy coz supreme intellect is there before and

> there

> > so

> > > much in the world to give you to bless u with, u even dont

imagine

> > > what

> > > God can offer to you, so u be deserving, be fair etc.

> > >

> > > 4. You asked - " Can we knwn about all universe by any spirtual

> > way " ,

> > > I

> > > w'd say yes it is, in fact it's so easy, it's easy like typing

a

> > mail

> > > and posting to the group or switching on the fan or bulb.

> > >

> > > First take examples from the scriptures , In the mahabharata,

> there

> > is

> > > astory, once maa yashoda made kid krishnaa's mouth open and saw

> > whole

> > > univese within kids mouth, other story is , upon the request of

> > > Arjuna,

> > > lord Krishna shown him his Viraat (large like universe) form or

> rup.

> > >

> > > Now, take it this way, who is Arjuna , Arjuna is a frightened

> man,

> > who

> > > has no will power to even fight a war, whose faith is shaken

like

> > you

> > > or

> > > me, but he is curious and approaches the God, God loves him and

> > > enables

> > > him to view the universal form (brahmaand) of lord itself.

> > >

> > > If it can happen to one Arjuna, it can happen to you or me

also,

> > what

> > > merit Arjuna has,certainly nothing better than you, still he

got,

> > you

> > > can also get it.

> > >

> > > Now how it happens, try to focus on ice particles, ice is

solid,

> it

> > > has

> > > it's shape and mass, but when it melts down, it has no shape of

> it's

> > > own, it can flow to a larger area, i mean it expands itself,

now

> > when

> > > it

> > > evaporates then what happens, it expands larger area as in the

> > gaseous

> > > stage it can cover up far more space..

> > >

> > > same is we human being, our soul get's mixed with 5 elemnts and

> with

> > > ego, we get a solid shape of our personality, we are like ice

> > particle

> > > only. basic instincts like - ego, greed and sex binds u in some

> > > identity, you have to dissolve it's intensity as much as

possible.

> > >

> > > for what u have ego - ur knowledge , ur's achievements, ur's

> success

> > > etc.., compare urself with world leaders, and then look at

> universe,

> > > earth is such a small entity and u r such a small particle in

the

> > > earth,

> > > what u have to put ego ?

> > >

> > > Sex, why u think always that u r a male and she is female, u r

a

> > soul

> > > and u have put on a body of male of female, it was ur's choice.

> > > biologically too, u have seen sex is a chnageable

characteristic,

> > > spirituality too says same, i m forgtting about one King in

some

> of

> > > the

> > > Puraans, who once entered into a jungle and converted to a

woman,

> > > there

> > > she got married to a male and gave birth to kids, somehow he

came

> > out

> > > of

> > > jungle and got his male form... now, he understood the sex is

not

> a

> > > constant properity. take some feminine hormones and u can see,

> > female

> > > sex organs are developing in you.

> > >

> > > So, from the state of ice particles u have to melt down, how,

> there

> > > are

> > > various paths , one is mantra sadhnaa, i have realized this

path ,

> > > how,

> > > during the chant, when ur karma get's diluted, ur heart's

> impurities

> > > starts filtering and u feel strengthand liking for the truth,

> then u

> > > should understand, u r mantra is awakening you and after a

> period, u

> > > will see, u r no longer attached to ur existance, ur identity ,

ur

> > > personality, ur body etc, you will recognise the detachment, u

> will

> > > see,

> > > u r putting on the mentioned things, and then u w'd begin

njoying

> > the

> > > drama of the world... why a person does a cunningness and why

> other

> > > helps him in it.... etc.

> > >

> > > The sort of natural detachement to is very important, when u

> > realize,

> > > u

> > > r not a person with a personality, ur desire for fame and

respect

> is

> > > reduced...

> > >

> > > this detachement will return in attachement to others, coz u

start

> > > thinking others are like me only, so u feel a sort of

attachement

> or

> > > affection to one and all...

> > >

> > > now, when u realize it practically,ur conciousness starts

getting

> > > connected to other's conciousness, u w'd have read that in some

> > sages

> > > ashraam lion and man were living togather, how just of their

> > > conciousness.

> > >

> > > Now, God may bless u anytime and u will see, u r lively

connected

> to

> > > God, u r dissolved to god and God is everywhere, God is in

> > > verything...

> > > see, it's a matter of realization, not a matter of reading it

and

> > > preeching to others..

> > >

> > > You will see, u r everywhere, coz u r within the God and God is

> > > omnipresent, next u will see, whole universe is within you.

> > >

> > > Even this stage is not ultimate, coz u though see, u r

everywhere

> > coz,

> > > u

> > > r within the God.. i mean u w'd still know ur different being

but

> > > within

> > > the same God.., you will realize ur's as well as God's

> > existance... ,

> > > but u can see ur's expansion to Galaxies.

> > >

> > > Now what remains is, to see one's completely getting dissolved

> into

> > > God. This is a state of Samadhi... , in this stage, as u are

> > dissolved

> > > into God, u will see, only one's existance is there in the

world.

> > >

> > > Best Regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Raman,

> > > >

> > > > I will explain it to you bit by bit and w'd confirm it with my

> > > > experience, first let me ask mother's permission to make sure

i

> m

> > not

> > > > transgressing my limits... , ok it's there, i will tell u

> within

> > my

> > > > capacity.

> > > >

> > > > 1. Millions and millions of Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma : Means

to

> > not to

> > > > become conservative in ur religious beliefs, not to become

> narrow

> > > minded

> > > > that divine is limited to it's one name or one

characteristic,

> > take it

> > > > this way, u know ur Visnu, but there is another Vishnu for

> other

> > being

> > > > from a different place, culture, community,world, galaxy etc.

> So,

> > dont

> > > > let down other's religion, dont kill them if they call the

God

> > with

> > > > differnt name, this message should to be given to islamic

> > scholars to

> > > > end religion sponsored terrorism.

> > > >

> > > > 2. Above all the Rama Naama, now, as u understand that every

> > > > individual has same connection with God same as u do have,

have

> > same

> > > > respect to every name of the God. but u discover ur's

> spirituality

> > > with

> > > > ur name, ur own way..

> > > >

> > > > Here i will try to make it more clear, sometimes giving

> emphasis

> > on

> > > one

> > > > name by Saints creates confusion for the followrs and they

begin

> > > stating

> > > > superiority of the name that they know or use to pray, If u

> know,

> > > Swami

> > > > PrabhuPaad, he founded Iskon, he stated above all there is

Prahu

> > > > Krishna, Krishna is the supreme God. What he was saying is

> there

> > is

> > > one

> > > > Supreme God, whom he knows as Lord Krishna, This name for him

> is

> > of

> > > > supreme importance, mind it, while stating this, he w'd be

> > undergoing

> > > > the process of founding his faith, So, he w'd said this to

> > himself,

> > > Ok,

> > > > Later on, followers w'd start taking it's lexical meaning,

> rather

> > > trying

> > > > to understand what was his intension and why he said it, One

of

> > such

> > > > follower one's fallen in a discussion with me trying to say

> some

> > other

> > > > name take it " Shiva " is lower than " Krishna " . this sort of

> dogma

> > has

> > > > created havoc in the history. So, it should be made clear vey

> > > carefully.

> > > >

> > > > 3. World is so large , so complext is, it's management and ur

> > existnce

> > > > is so small ur intellect is so less, never be Egoist, never

be

> > clever

> > > > and never be greedy coz supreme intellect is there before and

> > there so

> > > > much in the world to give you to bless u with, u even dont

> imagine

> > > what

> > > > God can offer to you, so u be deserving, be fair etc.

> > > >

> > > > 4. You asked - " Can we knwn about all universe by any

spirtual

> > way " ,

> > > I

> > > > w'd say yes it is, in fact it's so easy, it's easy like

typing

> a

> > mail

> > > > and posting to the group or switching on the fan or bulb.

> > > >

> > > > First take examples from the scriptures , In the mahabharata,

> > there is

> > > > astory, once maa yashoda made kid krishnaa's mouth open and

saw

> > whole

> > > > univese within kids mouth, other story is , upon the request

of

> > > Arjuna,

> > > > lord Krishna shown him his Viraat (large like universe) form

or

> > rup.

> > > >

> > > > Now, take it this way, who is Krishna, Krishna is a

frightened

> > man,

> > > who

> > > > has no will power to even fight a war, whose faith is shaken

> like

> > you

> > > or

> > > > me, but he is curious and approaches the God, God loves him

and

> > > enables

> > > > him to view the universal form (brahmaand) of lord itself.

> > > >

> > > > If it can happen to one Arjuna, it can happen to you or me

> also,

> > what

> > > > merit Arjuna has,certainly nothing better than you, still he

> got,

> > you

> > > > can also get it.

> > > >

> > > > Now how it happens, try to focus on ice particles, ice is

> solid,

> > it

> > > has

> > > > it's shape and mass, but when it melts down, it has no shape

of

> > it's

> > > > own, it can flow to a larger area, i mean it expands itself,

> now

> > when

> > > it

> > > > evaporates then what happens, it expands larger area as in

the

> > gaseous

> > > > stage it can cover up far more space..

> > > >

> > > > same is we human being, our soul get's mixed with 5 elemnts

and

> > with

> > > > ego, we get a solid shape of our personality, we are like ice

> > particle

> > > > only. basic instincts like - ego, greed and sex binds u in

some

> > > > identity, you have to dissolve it's intensity as much as

> possible.

> > > >

> > > > for what u have ego - ur knowledge , ur's achievements, ur's

> > success

> > > > etc.., compare urself with world leaders, and then look at

> > universe,

> > > > earth is such a small entity and u r such a small particle in

> the

> > > earth,

> > > > what u have to put ego ?

> > > >

> > > > Sex, why u think always that u r a male and she is female, u

r

> a

> > soul

> > > > and u have put on a body of male of female, it was ur's

choice.

> > > > biologically too, u have seen sex is a chnageable

> characteristic,

> > > > spirituality too says same, i m forgtting about one King in

> some

> > of

> > > the

> > > > Puraans, who once entered into a jungle and converted to a

> woman,

> > > there

> > > > she got married to a male and gave birth to kids, somehow he

> came

> > out

> > > of

> > > > jungle and got his male form... now, he understood the sex is

> not

> > a

> > > > constant properity. take some feminine hormones and u can

see,

> > female

> > > > sex organs are developing in you.

> > > >

> > > > So, from the state of ice particles u have to melt down, how,

> > there

> > > are

> > > > various paths , one is mantra sadhnaa, i have realized this

> path ,

> > > how,

> > > > during the chant, when ur karma get's diluted, ur heart's

> > impurities

> > > > starts filtering and u feel strengthand liking for the truth,

> > then u

> > > > should understand, u r mantra is awakening you and after a

> > period, u

> > > > will see, u r no longer attached to ur existance, ur

identity ,

> ur

> > > > personality, ur body etc, you will recognise the detachment,

u

> > will

> > > see,

> > > > u r putting on the mentioned things, and then u w'd begin

> njoying

> > the

> > > > drama of the world... why a person does a cunningness and why

> > other

> > > > helps him in it.... etc.

> > > >

> > > > The sort of natural detachement to is very important, when u

> > realize,

> > > u

> > > > r not a person with a personality, ur desire for fame and

> respect

> > is

> > > > reduced...

> > > >

> > > > this detachement will return in attachement to others, coz u

> start

> > > > thinking others are like me only, so u feel a sort of

> attachement

> > or

> > > > affection to one and all...

> > > >

> > > > now, when u realize it practically,ur conciousness starts

> getting

> > > > connected to other's conciousness, u w'd have read that in

some

> > sages

> > > > ashraam lion and man were living togather, how just of their

> > > > conciousness.

> > > >

> > > > Now, God may bless u anytime and u will see, u r lively

> connected

> > to

> > > > God, u r dissolved to god and God is everywhere, God is in

> > > verything...

> > > > see, it's a matter of realization, not a matter of reading it

> and

> > > > preeching to others..

> > > >

> > > > You will see, u r everywhere, coz u r within the God and God

is

> > > > omnipresent, next u will see, whole universe is within you.

> > > >

> > > > Even this stage is not ultimate, coz u though see, u r

> everywhere

> > coz,

> > > u

> > > > r within the God.. i mean u w'd still know ur different being

> but

> > > within

> > > > the same God.., you will realize ur's as well as God's

> > existance... ,

> > > > but u can see ur's expansion to Galaxies.

> > > >

> > > > Now what remains is, to see one's completely getting

dissolved

> > into

> > > > God. This is a state of Samadhi... , in this stage, as u are

> > dissolved

> > > > into God, u will see, only one's existance is there in the

> world.

> > > >

> > > > Best Regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , Shindi sinhazz@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Rohit,

> > > > > Lemme correct you on one point astronomically.

> > > > >

> > > > > Right now we are in Saggitarian dwarf galaxy.... which is

> going

> > to

> > > > merge with another bigger galaxy known as milky way...in 2012

> AD.

> > > > >

> > > > > But this is just an astronomical information.. I dont know

> > anything

> > > > else.

> > > > >

> > > > > Amit

> > > > >

> > > > > Pram Chopra pramchopra1964@

> > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:51:02 PM

> > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Raman Sachdeva

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohit

> > > > >

> > > > > God Bless U

> > > > >

> > > > > I am very glad that you are interested in those spiritual

> path

> > I am

> > > > Astro-Spiritual Master doing practice since 1984. The milky

way

> of

> > > > Galaxy is our Akash Ganga as we call it. yes we can know

about

> > other

> > > > galaxies by spiritual practice. AS the time is not yet come to

> > > disclose

> > > > the facts about it. The time do not allow it to. Millons of

> Vishnu

> > > means

> > > > God have so many shapes that you can see almost in everything.

> > > > Manupulations of things goes to Vishnu, innovations of

> creations

> > goes

> > > to

> > > > Brahama. distroyer of explosives goes to Shiva.

> > > > > one galaxy means one solar system. But due to explosives

time

> > do not

> > > > allow to know about other planets living beings.

> > > > >

> > > > > A Foresight Prince of India

> > > > > Pram Chopra

> > > > >

> > > > > rohit sood <rohit_sood76@ .co. in>

> > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > Sunday, August 12, 2007 12:54:44 PM

> > > > > [vedic astrology] Raman Sachdeva

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sir ,

> > > > > With due respect , I want to knw about my future my self

Raman

> > > > Sachdeva , Male DOB 22-11-76 Time 6.22 AM Place Ludhiana .

> > > > > Can I get enlightment in ds

birth ???????????? ????????? ????

> > > > > I have some question too , their are billions billions of

> > planets ,

> > > > million galaxies out which we live n milky way galaxy .All

this

> > > > creations is made by Lord vishnu .Is their life in any of

these

> > > galaxies

> > > > . Can we knwn about all universe by any spirtual way .

> > > > > One more question , in Gurubani their is one line guru

granth

> > sahib

> > > > that their are millions millions vishnu , same millions

> brahma ,

> > same

> > > > shiv and the uper the most Ram naam which is the main craetive

> > > > formationof all universe .I totally agree with all ds .But

what

> > is the

> > > > meaning of millions millions vishnu , brahma and shiv .

> > > > > Can you make some enlightment in all those questions .

> > > > > Waiting ,

> > > > > Raman Sachdeva

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click

here

> to

> > > know

> > > > how.

> > > > >

August 13, 2007

Lalit is usig multiple id's and talking to himself through multiple id's.

rohit sood <rohit_sood76

vedic astrology

Cc: mishra.lalit

Monday, August 13, 2007 12:50:40 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] To Raman Sachdeva (Point by Point Answers )

Thank you so much lalit jeeeeeeeeee for your very wonderful favour and it been

so so good and I will read again and try to implements what u have suggest me

....

I NEED YOUR FAVOUR AT ALL TIMES WHEN NEEDED ..SO ALWAYS BEEN MY GURU .

REGARDS,

RAMAN SACHDEVA

litsol <mishra.lalit@ gmail.com> wrote:

Here, i Hapen to write Krishna in Place of Arjuna in the 4'th points 3rd

para.., It's too late 3:00 am and i m sleepy, pls. read it proper

way.., now i have emboldened the " Arjuna " .

regards,

Lalit.

============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========

Dear Raman,

I will explain it to you bit by bit and w'd confirm it with my

experience, first let me ask mother's permission to make sure i m not

transgressing my limits... , ok it's there, i will tell u within my

capacity.

1. Millions and millions of Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma : Means to not to

become conservative in ur religious beliefs, not to become narrow

minded

that divine is limited to it's one name or one characteristic, take it

this way, u know ur Visnu, but there is another Vishnu for other being

from a different place, culture, community,world, galaxy etc. So, dont

let down other's religion, dont kill them if they call the God with

differnt name, this message should to be given to islamic scholars to

end religion sponsored terrorism.

2. Above all the Rama Naama, now, as u understand that every

individual has same connection with God same as u do have, have same

respect to every name of the God. but u discover ur's spirituality

with

ur name, ur own way..

Here i will try to make it more clear, sometimes giving emphasis on

one

name by Saints creates confusion for the followrs and they begin

stating

superiority of the name that they know or use to pray, If u know,

Swami

PrabhuPaad, he founded Iskon, he stated above all there is Prahu

Krishna, Krishna is the supreme God. What he was saying is there is

one

Supreme God, whom he knows as Lord Krishna, This name for him is of

supreme importance, mind it, while stating this, he w'd be undergoing

the process of founding his faith, So, he w'd said this to himself,

Ok,

Later on, followers w'd start taking it's lexical meaning, rather

trying

to understand what was his intension and why he said it, One of such

follower one's fallen in a discussion with me trying to say some other

name take it " Shiva " is lower than " Krishna " . this sort of dogma has

created havoc in the history. So, it should be made clear vey

carefully.

3. World is so large , so complext is, it's management and ur existnce

is so small ur intellect is so less, never be Egoist, never be clever

and never be greedy coz supreme intellect is there before and there so

much in the world to give you to bless u with, u even dont imagine

what

God can offer to you, so u be deserving, be fair etc.

4. You asked - " Can we knwn about all universe by any spirtual way " ,

I

w'd say yes it is, in fact it's so easy, it's easy like typing a mail

and posting to the group or switching on the fan or bulb.

First take examples from the scriptures , In the mahabharata, there is

astory, once maa yashoda made kid krishnaa's mouth open and saw whole

univese within kids mouth, other story is , upon the request of

Arjuna,

lord Krishna shown him his Viraat (large like universe) form or rup.

Now, take it this way, who is Arjuna , Arjuna is a frightened man, who

has no will power to even fight a war, whose faith is shaken like you

or

me, but he is curious and approaches the God, God loves him and

enables

him to view the universal form (brahmaand) of lord itself.

If it can happen to one Arjuna, it can happen to you or me also, what

merit Arjuna has,certainly nothing better than you, still he got, you

can also get it.

Now how it happens, try to focus on ice particles, ice is solid, it

has

it's shape and mass, but when it melts down, it has no shape of it's

own, it can flow to a larger area, i mean it expands itself, now when

it

evaporates then what happens, it expands larger area as in the gaseous

stage it can cover up far more space..

same is we human being, our soul get's mixed with 5 elemnts and with

ego, we get a solid shape of our personality, we are like ice particle

only. basic instincts like - ego, greed and sex binds u in some

identity, you have to dissolve it's intensity as much as possible.

for what u have ego - ur knowledge , ur's achievements, ur's success

etc.., compare urself with world leaders, and then look at universe,

earth is such a small entity and u r such a small particle in the

earth,

what u have to put ego ?

Sex, why u think always that u r a male and she is female, u r a soul

and u have put on a body of male of female, it was ur's choice.

biologically too, u have seen sex is a chnageable characteristic,

spirituality too says same, i m forgtting about one King in some of

the

Puraans, who once entered into a jungle and converted to a woman,

there

she got married to a male and gave birth to kids, somehow he came out

of

jungle and got his male form... now, he understood the sex is not a

constant properity. take some feminine hormones and u can see, female

sex organs are developing in you.

So, from the state of ice particles u have to melt down, how, there

are

various paths , one is mantra sadhnaa, i have realized this path ,

how,

during the chant, when ur karma get's diluted, ur heart's impurities

starts filtering and u feel strengthand liking for the truth, then u

should understand, u r mantra is awakening you and after a period, u

will see, u r no longer attached to ur existance, ur identity , ur

personality, ur body etc, you will recognise the detachment, u will

see,

u r putting on the mentioned things, and then u w'd begin njoying the

drama of the world... why a person does a cunningness and why other

helps him in it.... etc.

The sort of natural detachement to is very important, when u realize,

u

r not a person with a personality, ur desire for fame and respect is

reduced...

this detachement will return in attachement to others, coz u start

thinking others are like me only, so u feel a sort of attachement or

affection to one and all...

now, when u realize it practically, ur conciousness starts getting

connected to other's conciousness, u w'd have read that in some sages

ashraam lion and man were living togather, how just of their

conciousness.

Now, God may bless u anytime and u will see, u r lively connected to

God, u r dissolved to god and God is everywhere, God is in

verything...

see, it's a matter of realization, not a matter of reading it and

preeching to others..

You will see, u r everywhere, coz u r within the God and God is

omnipresent, next u will see, whole universe is within you.

Even this stage is not ultimate, coz u though see, u r everywhere coz,

u

r within the God.. i mean u w'd still know ur different being but

within

the same God.., you will realize ur's as well as God's existance... ,

but u can see ur's expansion to Galaxies.

Now what remains is, to see one's completely getting dissolved into

God. This is a state of Samadhi... , in this stage, as u are dissolved

into God, u will see, only one's existance is there in the world.

Best Regards,

Lalit.

vedic astrology, " litsol " <mishra.lalit@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Raman,

>

> I will explain it to you bit by bit and w'd confirm it with my

> experience, first let me ask mother's permission to make sure i m not

> transgressing my limits... , ok it's there, i will tell u within my

> capacity.

>

> 1. Millions and millions of Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma : Means to not to

> become conservative in ur religious beliefs, not to become narrow

minded

> that divine is limited to it's one name or one characteristic, take it

> this way, u know ur Visnu, but there is another Vishnu for other being

> from a different place, culture, community,world, galaxy etc. So, dont

> let down other's religion, dont kill them if they call the God with

> differnt name, this message should to be given to islamic scholars to

> end religion sponsored terrorism.

>

> 2. Above all the Rama Naama, now, as u understand that every

> individual has same connection with God same as u do have, have same

> respect to every name of the God. but u discover ur's spirituality

with

> ur name, ur own way..

>

> Here i will try to make it more clear, sometimes giving emphasis on

one

> name by Saints creates confusion for the followrs and they begin

stating

> superiority of the name that they know or use to pray, If u know,

Swami

> PrabhuPaad, he founded Iskon, he stated above all there is Prahu

> Krishna, Krishna is the supreme God. What he was saying is there is

one

> Supreme God, whom he knows as Lord Krishna, This name for him is of

> supreme importance, mind it, while stating this, he w'd be undergoing

> the process of founding his faith, So, he w'd said this to himself,

Ok,

> Later on, followers w'd start taking it's lexical meaning, rather

trying

> to understand what was his intension and why he said it, One of such

> follower one's fallen in a discussion with me trying to say some other

> name take it " Shiva " is lower than " Krishna " . this sort of dogma has

> created havoc in the history. So, it should be made clear vey

carefully.

>

> 3. World is so large , so complext is, it's management and ur existnce

> is so small ur intellect is so less, never be Egoist, never be clever

> and never be greedy coz supreme intellect is there before and there so

> much in the world to give you to bless u with, u even dont imagine

what

> God can offer to you, so u be deserving, be fair etc.

>

> 4. You asked - " Can we knwn about all universe by any spirtual way " ,

I

> w'd say yes it is, in fact it's so easy, it's easy like typing a mail

> and posting to the group or switching on the fan or bulb.

>

> First take examples from the scriptures , In the mahabharata, there is

> astory, once maa yashoda made kid krishnaa's mouth open and saw whole

> univese within kids mouth, other story is , upon the request of

Arjuna,

> lord Krishna shown him his Viraat (large like universe) form or rup.

>

> Now, take it this way, who is Krishna, Krishna is a frightened man,

who

> has no will power to even fight a war, whose faith is shaken like you

or

> me, but he is curious and approaches the God, God loves him and

enables

> him to view the universal form (brahmaand) of lord itself.

>

> If it can happen to one Arjuna, it can happen to you or me also, what

> merit Arjuna has,certainly nothing better than you, still he got, you

> can also get it.

>

> Now how it happens, try to focus on ice particles, ice is solid, it

has

> it's shape and mass, but when it melts down, it has no shape of it's

> own, it can flow to a larger area, i mean it expands itself, now when

it

> evaporates then what happens, it expands larger area as in the gaseous

> stage it can cover up far more space..

>

> same is we human being, our soul get's mixed with 5 elemnts and with

> ego, we get a solid shape of our personality, we are like ice particle

> only. basic instincts like - ego, greed and sex binds u in some

> identity, you have to dissolve it's intensity as much as possible.

>

> for what u have ego - ur knowledge , ur's achievements, ur's success

> etc.., compare urself with world leaders, and then look at universe,

> earth is such a small entity and u r such a small particle in the

earth,

> what u have to put ego ?

>

> Sex, why u think always that u r a male and she is female, u r a soul

> and u have put on a body of male of female, it was ur's choice.

> biologically too, u have seen sex is a chnageable characteristic,

> spirituality too says same, i m forgtting about one King in some of

the

> Puraans, who once entered into a jungle and converted to a woman,

there

> she got married to a male and gave birth to kids, somehow he came out

of

> jungle and got his male form... now, he understood the sex is not a

> constant properity. take some feminine hormones and u can see, female

> sex organs are developing in you.

>

> So, from the state of ice particles u have to melt down, how, there

are

> various paths , one is mantra sadhnaa, i have realized this path ,

how,

> during the chant, when ur karma get's diluted, ur heart's impurities

> starts filtering and u feel strengthand liking for the truth, then u

> should understand, u r mantra is awakening you and after a period, u

> will see, u r no longer attached to ur existance, ur identity , ur

> personality, ur body etc, you will recognise the detachment, u will

see,

> u r putting on the mentioned things, and then u w'd begin njoying the

> drama of the world... why a person does a cunningness and why other

> helps him in it.... etc.

>

> The sort of natural detachement to is very important, when u realize,

u

> r not a person with a personality, ur desire for fame and respect is

> reduced...

>

> this detachement will return in attachement to others, coz u start

> thinking others are like me only, so u feel a sort of attachement or

> affection to one and all...

>

> now, when u realize it practically, ur conciousness starts getting

> connected to other's conciousness, u w'd have read that in some sages

> ashraam lion and man were living togather, how just of their

> conciousness.

>

> Now, God may bless u anytime and u will see, u r lively connected to

> God, u r dissolved to god and God is everywhere, God is in

verything...

> see, it's a matter of realization, not a matter of reading it and

> preeching to others..

>

> You will see, u r everywhere, coz u r within the God and God is

> omnipresent, next u will see, whole universe is within you.

>

> Even this stage is not ultimate, coz u though see, u r everywhere coz,

u

> r within the God.. i mean u w'd still know ur different being but

within

> the same God.., you will realize ur's as well as God's existance... ,

> but u can see ur's expansion to Galaxies.

>

> Now what remains is, to see one's completely getting dissolved into

> God. This is a state of Samadhi... , in this stage, as u are dissolved

> into God, u will see, only one's existance is there in the world.

>

> Best Regards,

> Lalit.

>

vedic astrology, Shindi sinhazz@ wrote:

> >

> > Hi Rohit,

> > Lemme correct you on one point astronomically.

> >

> > Right now we are in Saggitarian dwarf galaxy.... which is going to

> merge with another bigger galaxy known as milky way...in 2012 AD.

> >

> > But this is just an astronomical information. . I dont know anything

> else.

> >

> > Amit

> >

> > Pram Chopra pramchopra1964@

> > vedic astrology

> > Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:51:02 PM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Raman Sachdeva

> >

> > Dear Rohit

> >

> > God Bless U

> >

> > I am very glad that you are interested in those spiritual path I am

> Astro-Spiritual Master doing practice since 1984. The milky way of

> Galaxy is our Akash Ganga as we call it. yes we can know about other

> galaxies by spiritual practice. AS the time is not yet come to

disclose

> the facts about it. The time do not allow it to. Millons of Vishnu

means

> God have so many shapes that you can see almost in everything.

> Manupulations of things goes to Vishnu, innovations of creations goes

to

> Brahama. distroyer of explosives goes to Shiva.

> > one galaxy means one solar system. But due to explosives time do not

> allow to know about other planets living beings.

> >

> > A Foresight Prince of India

> > Pram Chopra

> >

> > rohit sood <rohit_sood76@ .co. in>

> > vedic astrology

> > Sunday, August 12, 2007 12:54:44 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Raman Sachdeva

> >

> > Dear Sir ,

> > With due respect , I want to knw about my future my self Raman

> Sachdeva , Male DOB 22-11-76 Time 6.22 AM Place Ludhiana .

> > Can I get enlightment in ds birth ???????????? ????????? ????

> > I have some question too , their are billions billions of planets ,

> million galaxies out which we live n milky way galaxy .All this

> creations is made by Lord vishnu .Is their life in any of these

galaxies

> . Can we knwn about all universe by any spirtual way .

> > One more question , in Gurubani their is one line guru granth sahib

> that their are millions millions vishnu , same millions brahma , same

> shiv and the uper the most Ram naam which is the main craetive

> formationof all universe .I totally agree with all ds .But what is the

> meaning of millions millions vishnu , brahma and shiv .

> > Can you make some enlightment in all those questions .

> > Waiting ,

> > Raman Sachdeva

> >

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August 14, 2007

Ys I already assume you as my one of my very goof friend ............thanks a

lot

Regards,