Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Dear Shri.Sushil: Read the objective of the group. It clearly states that this is not a free prediction group.....Even in this group there is absolutely no obligation for anyone to offer you free prediction. You have the right to request, but no one needs to answer you. This is clearly stated in the group objective. Your act of having made a personal request to me and then alleging that I am fake just because I quoted my service charges (My service charges are at my discretion and you have no right to comment on that; you can just take it or leave it!), is highly deplorable. That too, after I have in fact given you honorary suggestion on humanitarian grounds. I have drawn a clear line between business and humanitarian considerations, and have never let one encroach on the other domain. Astrology is my only profession and means of livelihood and how do you expect me to lead my life without money if I don't charge? How much I should charge is my prerogative. If I am not effective or if I do not have reputation, people will not pay me. It is between me and my clients, and you have no business to decide or comment on that. Open your eyes, my charges are quite in tune with the trends of the day. You are unable to appreciate it because possibly you were " influenced " by someone's perverted logic. Let me assure you I have never been here under Fake IDs. If I have had multiple IDs, I would have declared it here. Having multiple IDs is not a crime; please understand that. I have no need to maintain multiple IDs nor do I have the time to maintain that. To my knowledge, none of my close family members are in this group. I have surely made some friends here, but my original friends in life - to my knowledge are not here! You are from a background where you have divorced ethics and knowledge. You seem to think that a person can be knowledgeable and yet unethical. That is " Macaulays education " system that has made you an apparatus in the Governemnt department. Anyone trained in Vedic traditions in dharma shastra cannot divorce knowledge and ethics. Some nuances of mantra shastra/ occult cannot be undertaken by those without ethics. Failing in crucial ethical points can mean sure death when you deal with certain occult forces; the power of truth and honesty is the only shield in mantra shastraic practices. Lalit's challenge about my use of occult powers is useless because I never claimed anything like that. I believe in the power of positive prayer to remove ills of persons. I never know nor do I practise Black Magic. But, there are many times when I have made Black Magicians bite dust with the power of prayers by neutralizing those black forces. Many persons here have experienced it, and it is strange that such persons are not coming forward. If you really want to test my occult power, do this...pay some money to some highly effective Black Magicians and ask them to destroy me. I am sure they will turn you out even without entertaining the request. This is not siddhi or miracle. It is a common thing; every devotee and ethical and brave person can do this. I claim no other powers other than this except to possibly bring positive effects in the life of a person who is willing to cooperate with me with good attitude. The result is for God to Give. Our is just to take efforts and pray. This is my belief and this is what I have always said to anyone who has ever approached me. I have never made tall promises; nor have I lured anybody. If your allegation was based on your misunderstanding me, I think this will clarify you. But, if you had intentionally tried to malign me, I cannot help it. I cannot control your actions. I can be responsible for my own only. I would not have posted this in the group if you had written to me in private; but as you had made a public allegation, it has become imperative for me to address this to the group. Blessed be. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Listen, Dont talk too much,Your reality is openly known in broad day light, I will give u example immidiately to show u what u r, a mirror to you. Do u know, u have got a typical way of writing, see bellow - " Dear Shri.Sushil: " everytime u address a person, u use " : " and same u did while using mohanraam's id also, check when u started doing that, almost from Oct/Nov -2005, in both the mail ids and mind it, this information is given by some other member of the group, in a phone call. Since, when u r caught up in broad day light, u claimed to have left the group from all three IDs - mohanraam's ID, Abhsishek's ID and this id in which u show ur knowledge and ability. Your knowledge failed to make u a good human being, u did all sort of cheapness, u had not shown any shame till date in posting my mail to group and then abusing me by ur other face (mohanraam). and what knowledge u do have, whatever u write, u twist a subject towards making money only. You exposed urself in every line of ur's writing,Do a prayashita, touch your monitor every day 108 times and repeat " I wont do this sort of cheapnees again in life " and one day, monitor which represent light or sun, who is ur's karmasakkschhi may forgive you. All ur fake claims - divinity, devine power, occult siddhis etc.. is under my foot. people like u are the biggest enemy of vedic culture, coz for few rupee's sake u may sale ur religion. Your problem is nowadays ur earning is stopped and u r worried, I will suggest you to post ur horoscope, some genuine astrologers will give a free reading to you. You only did a karma, and u only got it's result. why u did that, for rupees, for name and fame, and what u got ? u can get back ur respect but u have to admit what u did with an apology to group and to me also. ok. vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer " <dakshinastrologer wrote: > > Dear Shri.Sushil: > > Read the objective of the group. It clearly states that this is not > a free prediction group.....Even in this group there is absolutely no > obligation for anyone to offer you free prediction. You have the > right to request, but no one needs to answer you. This is clearly > stated in the group objective. > > Your act of having made a personal request to me and then alleging > that I am fake just because I quoted my service charges (My service > charges are at my discretion and you have no right to comment on > that; you can just take it or leave it!), is highly deplorable. That > too, after I have in fact given you honorary suggestion on > humanitarian grounds. I have drawn a clear line between business and > humanitarian considerations, and have never let one encroach on the > other domain. Astrology is my only profession and means of > livelihood and how do you expect me to lead my life without money if > I don't charge? How much I should charge is my prerogative. If I am > not effective or if I do not have reputation, people will not pay > me. It is between me and my clients, and you have no business to > decide or comment on that. Open your eyes, my charges are quite in > tune with the trends of the day. You are unable to appreciate it > because possibly you were " influenced " by someone's perverted logic. > > Let me assure you I have never been here under Fake IDs. If I have > had multiple IDs, I would have declared it here. Having multiple IDs > is not a crime; please understand that. I have no need to maintain > multiple IDs nor do I have the time to maintain that. To my > knowledge, none of my close family members are in this group. I have > surely made some friends here, but my original friends in life - to > my knowledge are not here! > > You are from a background where you have divorced ethics and > knowledge. You seem to think that a person can be knowledgeable and > yet unethical. That is " Macaulays education " system that has made > you an apparatus in the Governemnt department. Anyone trained in > Vedic traditions in dharma shastra cannot divorce knowledge and > ethics. Some nuances of mantra shastra/ occult cannot be undertaken > by those without ethics. Failing in crucial ethical points can mean > sure death when you deal with certain occult forces; the power of > truth and honesty is the only shield in mantra shastraic practices. > > Lalit's challenge about my use of occult powers is useless because I > never claimed anything like that. I believe in the power of positive > prayer to remove ills of persons. I never know nor do I practise > Black Magic. But, there are many times when I have made Black > Magicians bite dust with the power of prayers by neutralizing those > black forces. Many persons here have experienced it, and it is > strange that such persons are not coming forward. > > If you really want to test my occult power, do this...pay some money > to some highly effective Black Magicians and ask them to destroy me. > I am sure they will turn you out even without entertaining the > request. > > This is not siddhi or miracle. It is a common thing; every devotee > and ethical and brave person can do this. I claim no other powers > other than this except to possibly bring positive effects in the life > of a person who is willing to cooperate with me with good attitude. > The result is for God to Give. Our is just to take efforts and pray. > This is my belief and this is what I have always said to anyone who > has ever approached me. I have never made tall promises; nor have I > lured anybody. > > If your allegation was based on your misunderstanding me, I think > this will clarify you. But, if you had intentionally tried to malign > me, I cannot help it. I cannot control your actions. I can be > responsible for my own only. > > I would not have posted this in the group if you had written to me in > private; but as you had made a public allegation, it has become > imperative for me to address this to the group. > > Blessed be. > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Mr. Lalit: my style of writing is authentic way of addressing a mail, and all educated and cultured persons will write like that. You are an ass to judge that two persons are same just because of a " : " Probably a semi=literate from Rewa like you will not know that. Ask the better educated members here. Ask the IAS officers in this group is this not how they address their mail. I knew you were an idiot; but never knew you were such an idiot You are saying that I shared the mail. I have written before, but I will write again; I HAVE NOT SHARED A PRIVATE MAIL CONTAINING YOUR CONSULTATION. Now, I challenge you...shall I make it public? Even after your irritating me so much I have not betrayed your privacy. How do you know about my business? I have told you clearly how much I have actually earned from the group in 2 years! My actual business turn over is much much higher. You are making a mistake in thinking that I am shining only here. For your information, I was very famous even before I came here. Probably in your village, you are permitted to reply to mails not addressed to you; but not in august forums. Know the basics of decency. You are banned member and your action is no different from a house=breaker or thief. So shut up. I had adddressed Shri. Sushil Dikshit who seems to have been carried away by your fantasies. Answer the query point by point. You have never done that to anybody. I wonder which idiot has employed you as a software engineer. Your logical level is worse than that of my 5 year old nephew who answers queries directly even at this age and coherently. Shall I make ALL OUR PRIVATE EXCHANGE PUBLIC? let this group decide who has cheated whom? all mails will be made public including your begging for concession for me...Recently you made fun of Shri. Harscharan for offering US$25 for a single event prediction; yet you asked so many queries over 1 full week and how much you paid? you cheat! If you think this group is a hunting ground for professional business and it was with that intention you targetted me, forget it! You are not going to make much business. I ended up answering close to 150 mails per day on a honorary basis when I was very active - long before you ever came.(150 analysis per day is too much by any reckoning). You are forcing me into responses again. If you challenge me again, I will make all your posts public. Why don't you make that public for that matter? You won't because it will expose the torture you gave me which prompted me to lodge a complaint against you in this forum of astrologers! Shall I post it if you have lost the records? vedic astrology , " llitsoll " <llitsoll wrote: > > Listen, > > Dont talk too much,Your reality is openly known in broad day light, I > will give u example immidiately to show u what u r, a mirror to you. > > Do u know, u have got a typical way of writing, see bellow - > > " Dear Shri.Sushil: " > > everytime u address a person, u use " : " and same u did while using > mohanraam's id also, check when u started doing that, almost from > Oct/Nov -2005, in both the mail ids and mind it, this information is > given by some other member of the group, in a phone call. > > Since, when u r caught up in broad day light, u claimed to have left > the group from all three IDs - mohanraam's ID, Abhsishek's ID and > this id in which u show ur knowledge and ability. > > Your knowledge failed to make u a good human being, u did all sort of > cheapness, u had not shown any shame till date in posting my mail to > group and then abusing me by ur other face (mohanraam). > > and what knowledge u do have, whatever u write, u twist a subject > towards making money only. > > You exposed urself in every line of ur's writing,Do a prayashita, > touch your monitor every day 108 times and repeat " I wont do this > sort of cheapnees again in life " and one day, monitor which represent > light or sun, who is ur's karmasakkschhi may forgive you. > > All ur fake claims - divinity, devine power, occult siddhis etc.. is > under my foot. > > people like u are the biggest enemy of vedic culture, coz for few > rupee's sake u may sale ur religion. > > Your problem is nowadays ur earning is stopped and u r worried, I > will suggest you to post ur horoscope, some genuine astrologers will > give a free reading to you. > > You only did a karma, and u only got it's result. why u did that, for > rupees, for name and fame, and what u got ? u can get back ur respect > but u have to admit what u did with an apology to group and to me > also. > > ok. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer " > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri.Sushil: > > > > Read the objective of the group. It clearly states that this is > not > > a free prediction group.....Even in this group there is absolutely > no > > obligation for anyone to offer you free prediction. You have the > > right to request, but no one needs to answer you. This is clearly > > stated in the group objective. > > > > Your act of having made a personal request to me and then alleging > > that I am fake just because I quoted my service charges (My service > > charges are at my discretion and you have no right to comment on > > that; you can just take it or leave it!), is highly deplorable. > That > > too, after I have in fact given you honorary suggestion on > > humanitarian grounds. I have drawn a clear line between business > and > > humanitarian considerations, and have never let one encroach on the > > other domain. Astrology is my only profession and means of > > livelihood and how do you expect me to lead my life without money > if > > I don't charge? How much I should charge is my prerogative. If I > am > > not effective or if I do not have reputation, people will not pay > > me. It is between me and my clients, and you have no business to > > decide or comment on that. Open your eyes, my charges are quite in > > tune with the trends of the day. You are unable to appreciate it > > because possibly you were " influenced " by someone's perverted logic. > > > > Let me assure you I have never been here under Fake IDs. If I have > > had multiple IDs, I would have declared it here. Having multiple > IDs > > is not a crime; please understand that. I have no need to maintain > > multiple IDs nor do I have the time to maintain that. To my > > knowledge, none of my close family members are in this group. I > have > > surely made some friends here, but my original friends in life - to > > my knowledge are not here! > > > > You are from a background where you have divorced ethics and > > knowledge. You seem to think that a person can be knowledgeable > and > > yet unethical. That is " Macaulays education " system that has made > > you an apparatus in the Governemnt department. Anyone trained in > > Vedic traditions in dharma shastra cannot divorce knowledge and > > ethics. Some nuances of mantra shastra/ occult cannot be > undertaken > > by those without ethics. Failing in crucial ethical points can mean > > sure death when you deal with certain occult forces; the power of > > truth and honesty is the only shield in mantra shastraic practices. > > > > Lalit's challenge about my use of occult powers is useless because > I > > never claimed anything like that. I believe in the power of > positive > > prayer to remove ills of persons. I never know nor do I practise > > Black Magic. But, there are many times when I have made Black > > Magicians bite dust with the power of prayers by neutralizing those > > black forces. Many persons here have experienced it, and it is > > strange that such persons are not coming forward. > > > > If you really want to test my occult power, do this...pay some > money > > to some highly effective Black Magicians and ask them to destroy > me. > > I am sure they will turn you out even without entertaining the > > request. > > > > This is not siddhi or miracle. It is a common thing; every devotee > > and ethical and brave person can do this. I claim no other powers > > other than this except to possibly bring positive effects in the > life > > of a person who is willing to cooperate with me with good > attitude. > > The result is for God to Give. Our is just to take efforts and > pray. > > This is my belief and this is what I have always said to anyone who > > has ever approached me. I have never made tall promises; nor have > I > > lured anybody. > > > > If your allegation was based on your misunderstanding me, I think > > this will clarify you. But, if you had intentionally tried to > malign > > me, I cannot help it. I cannot control your actions. I can be > > responsible for my own only. > > > > I would not have posted this in the group if you had written to me > in > > private; but as you had made a public allegation, it has become > > imperative for me to address this to the group. > > > > Blessed be. > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Mr. Lalit: It is YOU who have been banned and not I. Whose truth is open in broad day light? How many people have I ever had a fight with? Only YoU! and that too because you kept on taunting me. Even then I was not fighting;I was only explaining myself. Tell me this, if I and Mohanraaam are one and the same, why I did not take credit for correctly predicting your 2 lovers' names? It was Mohanraaamji who did that. Any astrologer would love to take credit for such predictions, as it would boost his image. But, I did not take credit for it, because I am not Mohanraaamji. I respect Mohanraaamji because of these unique skills he had. You stupid useless vermin! I never claimed any occult powers...who are u to put it under your foot> Go to a good psychiatrist as Mohanraaamji suggested in his earlier posts. You are fighting without any reason. If you really wanted me out of the group, I was out; then why did you keep on at the accusations behind my back? Your intentions are not honest; jealousy will not help you in any way. Grow up. First of all, a banned member speaking so rudely is a sign of bad manners. You are the criminal and it is your criminal activity that has been exposed. I have been honourably invited by the moderator and I have every right to be here. vedic astrology , " llitsoll " <llitsoll wrote: > > Listen, > > Dont talk too much,Your reality is openly known in broad day light, I > will give u example immidiately to show u what u r, a mirror to you. > > Do u know, u have got a typical way of writing, see bellow - > > " Dear Shri.Sushil: " > > everytime u address a person, u use " : " and same u did while using > mohanraam's id also, check when u started doing that, almost from > Oct/Nov -2005, in both the mail ids and mind it, this information is > given by some other member of the group, in a phone call. > > Since, when u r caught up in broad day light, u claimed to have left > the group from all three IDs - mohanraam's ID, Abhsishek's ID and > this id in which u show ur knowledge and ability. > > Your knowledge failed to make u a good human being, u did all sort of > cheapness, u had not shown any shame till date in posting my mail to > group and then abusing me by ur other face (mohanraam). > > and what knowledge u do have, whatever u write, u twist a subject > towards making money only. > > You exposed urself in every line of ur's writing,Do a prayashita, > touch your monitor every day 108 times and repeat " I wont do this > sort of cheapnees again in life " and one day, monitor which represent > light or sun, who is ur's karmasakkschhi may forgive you. > > All ur fake claims - divinity, devine power, occult siddhis etc.. is > under my foot. > > people like u are the biggest enemy of vedic culture, coz for few > rupee's sake u may sale ur religion. > > Your problem is nowadays ur earning is stopped and u r worried, I > will suggest you to post ur horoscope, some genuine astrologers will > give a free reading to you. > > You only did a karma, and u only got it's result. why u did that, for > rupees, for name and fame, and what u got ? u can get back ur respect > but u have to admit what u did with an apology to group and to me > also. > > ok. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer " > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri.Sushil: > > > > Read the objective of the group. It clearly states that this is > not > > a free prediction group.....Even in this group there is absolutely > no > > obligation for anyone to offer you free prediction. You have the > > right to request, but no one needs to answer you. This is clearly > > stated in the group objective. > > > > Your act of having made a personal request to me and then alleging > > that I am fake just because I quoted my service charges (My service > > charges are at my discretion and you have no right to comment on > > that; you can just take it or leave it!), is highly deplorable. > That > > too, after I have in fact given you honorary suggestion on > > humanitarian grounds. I have drawn a clear line between business > and > > humanitarian considerations, and have never let one encroach on the > > other domain. Astrology is my only profession and means of > > livelihood and how do you expect me to lead my life without money > if > > I don't charge? How much I should charge is my prerogative. If I > am > > not effective or if I do not have reputation, people will not pay > > me. It is between me and my clients, and you have no business to > > decide or comment on that. Open your eyes, my charges are quite in > > tune with the trends of the day. You are unable to appreciate it > > because possibly you were " influenced " by someone's perverted logic. > > > > Let me assure you I have never been here under Fake IDs. If I have > > had multiple IDs, I would have declared it here. Having multiple > IDs > > is not a crime; please understand that. I have no need to maintain > > multiple IDs nor do I have the time to maintain that. To my > > knowledge, none of my close family members are in this group. I > have > > surely made some friends here, but my original friends in life - to > > my knowledge are not here! > > > > You are from a background where you have divorced ethics and > > knowledge. You seem to think that a person can be knowledgeable > and > > yet unethical. That is " Macaulays education " system that has made > > you an apparatus in the Governemnt department. Anyone trained in > > Vedic traditions in dharma shastra cannot divorce knowledge and > > ethics. Some nuances of mantra shastra/ occult cannot be > undertaken > > by those without ethics. Failing in crucial ethical points can mean > > sure death when you deal with certain occult forces; the power of > > truth and honesty is the only shield in mantra shastraic practices. > > > > Lalit's challenge about my use of occult powers is useless because > I > > never claimed anything like that. I believe in the power of > positive > > prayer to remove ills of persons. I never know nor do I practise > > Black Magic. But, there are many times when I have made Black > > Magicians bite dust with the power of prayers by neutralizing those > > black forces. Many persons here have experienced it, and it is > > strange that such persons are not coming forward. > > > > If you really want to test my occult power, do this...pay some > money > > to some highly effective Black Magicians and ask them to destroy > me. > > I am sure they will turn you out even without entertaining the > > request. > > > > This is not siddhi or miracle. It is a common thing; every devotee > > and ethical and brave person can do this. I claim no other powers > > other than this except to possibly bring positive effects in the > life > > of a person who is willing to cooperate with me with good > attitude. > > The result is for God to Give. Our is just to take efforts and > pray. > > This is my belief and this is what I have always said to anyone who > > has ever approached me. I have never made tall promises; nor have > I > > lured anybody. > > > > If your allegation was based on your misunderstanding me, I think > > this will clarify you. But, if you had intentionally tried to > malign > > me, I cannot help it. I cannot control your actions. I can be > > responsible for my own only. > > > > I would not have posted this in the group if you had written to me > in > > private; but as you had made a public allegation, it has become > > imperative for me to address this to the group. > > > > Blessed be. > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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