To Mr. Sushil Dikshit - To finally clsoed

[Guest guest]

Respected Dakshinmoorty ji,

 

Pranam,

 

I respect you ability and knowledge and I can write again and again

about it. But it does not empower you to do and un-vedic act.

 

Further I did not know till the post I made who was Mr. Lalit Mishra.

I just posted my opinion to request all related persons to close the

topic for ever.

 

Further I want to close this topic finally. But before closing I want

to tell you certain things

 

1. Yes I contacted you for my father's illness. But you should not

have posted the fact here as it was a personal mail. I had sent the

same mail to Respected Pram Chopra Sir. He not only replied my mail

but also promised not to make the mail public.

 

2. Since I am also a student of astrology so I was expecting you

would not charge any money from me. " kyonki ek kewat doosare kewat

se utrai nahi leta hai. " & " One a doctor does not charge any money

from the other doctor " But if money is supreme for you, I have

nothing to say. God Shiva bless you for your business.

 

3. I had asked for correcting the time of birth of my father. In

reply you told to predict on the basis of prashna kundali. My main

aim was to get my father TOB corrected. If you are not interested in

what I want to know why should I contact you.

 

One more thing I am not going to reply any more posting from you

because I do not want to waste my energy in useless thing.

 

with due regards

sushil dikshit

 

vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

<dakshinastrologer wrote:

>

> Dear Shri.Sushil:

>

> Read the objective of the group. It clearly states that this is

not

> a free prediction group.....Even in this group there is absolutely

no

> obligation for anyone to offer you free prediction. You have the

> right to request, but no one needs to answer you. This is clearly

> stated in the group objective.

>

> Your act of having made a personal request to me and then alleging

> that I am fake just because I quoted my service charges (My service

> charges are at my discretion and you have no right to comment on

> that; you can just take it or leave it!), is highly deplorable.

That

> too, after I have in fact given you honorary suggestion on

> humanitarian grounds. I have drawn a clear line between business

and

> humanitarian considerations, and have never let one encroach on the

> other domain. Astrology is my only profession and means of

> livelihood and how do you expect me to lead my life without money

if

> I don't charge? How much I should charge is my prerogative. If I

am

> not effective or if I do not have reputation, people will not pay

> me. It is between me and my clients, and you have no business to

> decide or comment on that. Open your eyes, my charges are quite in

> tune with the trends of the day. You are unable to appreciate it

> because possibly you were " influenced " by someone's perverted logic.

>

> Let me assure you I have never been here under Fake IDs. If I have

> had multiple IDs, I would have declared it here. Having multiple

IDs

> is not a crime; please understand that. I have no need to maintain

> multiple IDs nor do I have the time to maintain that. To my

> knowledge, none of my close family members are in this group. I

have

> surely made some friends here, but my original friends in life - to

> my knowledge are not here!

>

> You are from a background where you have divorced ethics and

> knowledge. You seem to think that a person can be knowledgeable

and

> yet unethical. That is " Macaulays education " system that has made

> you an apparatus in the Governemnt department. Anyone trained in

> Vedic traditions in dharma shastra cannot divorce knowledge and

> ethics. Some nuances of mantra shastra/ occult cannot be

undertaken

> by those without ethics. Failing in crucial ethical points can mean

> sure death when you deal with certain occult forces; the power of

> truth and honesty is the only shield in mantra shastraic practices.

>

> Lalit's challenge about my use of occult powers is useless because

I

> never claimed anything like that. I believe in the power of

positive

> prayer to remove ills of persons. I never know nor do I practise

> Black Magic. But, there are many times when I have made Black

> Magicians bite dust with the power of prayers by neutralizing those

> black forces. Many persons here have experienced it, and it is

> strange that such persons are not coming forward.

>

> If you really want to test my occult power, do this...pay some

money

> to some highly effective Black Magicians and ask them to destroy

me.

> I am sure they will turn you out even without entertaining the

> request.

>

> This is not siddhi or miracle. It is a common thing; every devotee

> and ethical and brave person can do this. I claim no other powers

> other than this except to possibly bring positive effects in the

life

> of a person who is willing to cooperate with me with good

attitude.

> The result is for God to Give. Our is just to take efforts and

pray.

> This is my belief and this is what I have always said to anyone who

> has ever approached me. I have never made tall promises; nor have

I

> lured anybody.

>

> If your allegation was based on your misunderstanding me, I think

> this will clarify you. But, if you had intentionally tried to

malign

> me, I cannot help it. I cannot control your actions. I can be

> responsible for my own only.

>

> I would not have posted this in the group if you had written to me

in

> private; but as you had made a public allegation, it has become

> imperative for me to address this to the group.

>

> Blessed be.

> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri. Sushil Dikshit:

 

Once a help has been offered, it is good manners to acknowledge the

fact is it not? Definitely you seem to be one person who knows your

manners.

 

Your words that " He asks for money " pained me. I wanted to prove

that I do offer honorary suggestions.

 

What un=vedic act have I done? You please tell me....you suspect me

of something; Your suspicion does not mean that I have done that. I

have honourably quit the group. Then why was there rhetoric about me

in this group behind my back and members writing to me about that in

their anguish? Do you know how many members said that the group has

come to a level where it will be below my dignity to rejoin this

group? I can forward you the mails if you suspect me. Do you think

I can have 100 IDs?

 

As you say, if the topic is closed forever, that is what I also

desire. But, please please do not join with Lalit Mishra in thinking

I was making a business out of astrology here. My business is

elsewhere. My logic was clear.....I will answer only such queries

that can add astrological application knowledge to learners here. Or

queries on technical aspects of astrology where interpretations of

classics were controversial. I was strictly maintaining this code of

behaviour till recently.

 

But your post is definitely well-worded and with good manners. One

thing I can say is, you have misunderstood me probably due to

circumstances.

 

When a case happens, can we withhold information citing privacy? Such

a consideration prompted me to reveal the request you made to me in

private. If you have not alleged that I am money-minded, I would not

have been forced to prove otherwise with your own example. Anyway,

sorry about that if this has hurt you.

 

Blessed be.

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

 

vedic astrology ,

" sushil.dikshit " <sushil.dikshit wrote:

>

>

> Respected Dakshinmoorty ji,

>

> Pranam,

>

> I respect you ability and knowledge and I can write again and again

> about it. But it does not empower you to do and un-vedic act.

>

> Further I did not know till the post I made who was Mr. Lalit

Mishra.

> I just posted my opinion to request all related persons to close

the

> topic for ever.

>

> Further I want to close this topic finally. But before closing I

want

> to tell you certain things

>

> 1. Yes I contacted you for my father's illness. But you should not

> have posted the fact here as it was a personal mail. I had sent the

> same mail to Respected Pram Chopra Sir. He not only replied my mail

> but also promised not to make the mail public.

>

> 2. Since I am also a student of astrology so I was expecting you

> would not charge any money from me. " kyonki ek kewat doosare kewat

> se utrai nahi leta hai. " & " One a doctor does not charge any money

> from the other doctor " But if money is supreme for you, I have

> nothing to say. God Shiva bless you for your business.

>

> 3. I had asked for correcting the time of birth of my father. In

> reply you told to predict on the basis of prashna kundali. My main

> aim was to get my father TOB corrected. If you are not interested

in

> what I want to know why should I contact you.

>

> One more thing I am not going to reply any more posting from you

> because I do not want to waste my energy in useless thing.

>

> with due regards

> sushil dikshit

>

> vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri.Sushil:

> >

> > Read the objective of the group. It clearly states that this is

> not

> > a free prediction group.....Even in this group there is

absolutely

> no

> > obligation for anyone to offer you free prediction. You have the

> > right to request, but no one needs to answer you. This is

clearly

> > stated in the group objective.

> >

> > Your act of having made a personal request to me and then

alleging

> > that I am fake just because I quoted my service charges (My

service

> > charges are at my discretion and you have no right to comment on

> > that; you can just take it or leave it!), is highly deplorable.

> That

> > too, after I have in fact given you honorary suggestion on

> > humanitarian grounds. I have drawn a clear line between business

> and

> > humanitarian considerations, and have never let one encroach on

the

> > other domain. Astrology is my only profession and means of

> > livelihood and how do you expect me to lead my life without money

> if

> > I don't charge? How much I should charge is my prerogative. If I

> am

> > not effective or if I do not have reputation, people will not pay

> > me. It is between me and my clients, and you have no business to

> > decide or comment on that. Open your eyes, my charges are quite

in

> > tune with the trends of the day. You are unable to appreciate it

> > because possibly you were " influenced " by someone's perverted

logic.

> >

> > Let me assure you I have never been here under Fake IDs. If I

have

> > had multiple IDs, I would have declared it here. Having multiple

> IDs

> > is not a crime; please understand that. I have no need to

maintain

> > multiple IDs nor do I have the time to maintain that. To my

> > knowledge, none of my close family members are in this group. I

> have

> > surely made some friends here, but my original friends in life -

to

> > my knowledge are not here!

> >

> > You are from a background where you have divorced ethics and

> > knowledge. You seem to think that a person can be knowledgeable

> and

> > yet unethical. That is " Macaulays education " system that has

made

> > you an apparatus in the Governemnt department. Anyone trained in

> > Vedic traditions in dharma shastra cannot divorce knowledge and

> > ethics. Some nuances of mantra shastra/ occult cannot be

> undertaken

> > by those without ethics. Failing in crucial ethical points can

mean

> > sure death when you deal with certain occult forces; the power of

> > truth and honesty is the only shield in mantra shastraic

practices.

> >

> > Lalit's challenge about my use of occult powers is useless

because

> I

> > never claimed anything like that. I believe in the power of

> positive

> > prayer to remove ills of persons. I never know nor do I practise

> > Black Magic. But, there are many times when I have made Black

> > Magicians bite dust with the power of prayers by neutralizing

those

> > black forces. Many persons here have experienced it, and it is

> > strange that such persons are not coming forward.

> >

> > If you really want to test my occult power, do this...pay some

> money

> > to some highly effective Black Magicians and ask them to destroy

> me.

> > I am sure they will turn you out even without entertaining the

> > request.

> >

> > This is not siddhi or miracle. It is a common thing; every

devotee

> > and ethical and brave person can do this. I claim no other

powers

> > other than this except to possibly bring positive effects in the

> life

> > of a person who is willing to cooperate with me with good

> attitude.

> > The result is for God to Give. Our is just to take efforts and

> pray.

> > This is my belief and this is what I have always said to anyone

who

> > has ever approached me. I have never made tall promises; nor

have

> I

> > lured anybody.

> >

> > If your allegation was based on your misunderstanding me, I think

> > this will clarify you. But, if you had intentionally tried to

> malign

> > me, I cannot help it. I cannot control your actions. I can be

> > responsible for my own only.

> >

> > I would not have posted this in the group if you had written to

me

> in

> > private; but as you had made a public allegation, it has become

> > imperative for me to address this to the group.

> >

> > Blessed be.

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> >

>