ethics of Astrologers. - Clsoed from my side

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Dear Members

 

Since none is ready to write on the ethics for astrologers, I am

closing this topic from my side but it is still unresolved. I promise

not to post any message that is DERIMENTAL TO BUSINESS OF ASTROLGOERS.

 

with regards

sushil dikshit

 

vedic astrology , KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM

<munisevitham wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>

> quaker exclaimed such a long " Q " with wide opened mouths !

>

> Parker explained free phe-nyl melaa! uninformed passers by wait for

turns... no containers on hand !!

>

> Any thing free makes them flogged ! ? ...public ethics !!!

>

> " sushil.dikshit " <sushil.dikshit

wrote: Dear Shailla Ji,

>

> Namaste,

>

> You are right. In my views most of the astrologers(not all) use

these

> platforms (different on astrology)to increase their

> ratings and to popularise themselves. They pose themselves as great

> astrologers so that they can get some clients here and start

> astrology business with them. It may be unbearable to many of them

as

> it is 100% true. They have only one interest that is money. They

> reply some of the question (normally once or twice daily) just to

> show their presence only so that people may send private mails to

> them. Most of the people present in these forums do not want to put

> their problems publicily just for secrecy or privacy. Because of

this

> psychology professional astrolgers get clients here. They are not

so

> busy as they pose. If they are really busy they should not answer

any

> of the postings here like Narsimha and Sanjay Rath. But this is

> market so they have to be present here to catch clients.

>

> I have this view for most of the astrologers but not for all. Some

of

> them are really generous , knowledgeable and helping. I will not

> write their name here otherwise I will face charge for their

> publicity. But often I had chat with them. They are generous

enough.

>

> ONE MORE THING NONE OF THE ASTROLOGERS HAVE WRITTEN ON THIS

> TIPIC " ETHICS FOR ASTROLOGERS " BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE NOT

FOLLOWING

> THE ETHICS AND THEY WILL BE TRAPPED HERE.

>

> with regards

> sushil dikshit

>

> > vedic astrology , Shailla Sharma

> > <shaillasharma@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sushil,

> > >

> > > I have noticed that when giving a reading some astrologers

are

> > very prompt.

> > >

> > > But when the prediction doesn't come true and native is

> suffering

> > and confused, the astrologer becomes " busy " .

> > >

> > > Why? Does the role of the astrologer come to a full stop

after

> > dispensing the reading. Is it beyond the reasonable to hope that

> the

> > astrolger can spare an ear, when the predictions go awry?

> > >

> > > We all know there is a big role of free will, and no

astrologer

> > is God. So no recriminations for the predictions not coming

true.

> But

> > wouldn't an astrologer at least be curious and anxious to have a

re-

> > look, even if its a cusrory one to guide the native? Like post

> > operative care and check ups are important for a doctor.

> > >

> > > I wish that such ethics and regulated forum existed in this

> field

> > too. As an astrologer who shrugs off such things only maligns

the

> > entire profession.

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " sushil.dikshit " <sushil.dikshit@> wrote:

> > > Dear Harcharan,

> > >

> > > If someone has learnt the vedic astrology well only from what

our

> > > rishis had written in vidic scriptures, is suffient. He will

> surely

> > > be a good astrologer. On the contrary if someone tries to go

> beyond

> > > their knowledge and he may be under illusion. Only the time

will

> > tell

> > > whether he is perfect or not.

> > >

> > > with regards

> > > sushil dikshit

> > > vedic astrology , " Harcharan " <jassalh@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Excellent Note Sunil Ji,

> > > >

> > > > This is what osho wanted to convey, either you can be a

leader

> or

> > a

> > > > follower. Scriptures give us a foundation of knowledge

> collected

> > > over

> > > > centuries hard work by our great saints and leaders and

guide

> us

> > > for

> > > > future life.

> > > >

> > > > This is what I understand from the quote of Osho:

> > > >

> > > > Being a follower, you will continue to practice what is

written

> > in

> > > > the scriptures and try to achieve perfection. Being a leader

> you

> > > will

> > > > go one step ahead and think out of the box to further

research,

> > > > improve and practice what is written in the scriptures.

> > > >

> > > > You can only come to know the differences between scriptures

> and

> > > > other techniques after practicing them to near pefection.

And

> > > whoever

> > > > is able to find those missing links and relationships,

becomes

> a

> > > > great leader.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Harcharan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , " sunil nair "

> > > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare rama krishna,

> > > > >

> > > > > dear sushil ji.

> > > > >

> > > > > I find this quote from osho may be interesting to u and

think

> > > > it in

> > > > > continuation of our chat which caused this question

> > > > >

> > > > > ==================Just a few days before, a man came to me

> and

> > he

> > > > said,

> > > > > " I am trying your method of meditation, but tell me, in

what

> > > > scripture

> > > > > is it given? If you can convince me that it is given in my

> > > religious

> > > > > scripture, then it will be easier for me to do. " But why

will

> > it

> > > be

> > > > > easier for him to do if it is written in a scripture?

Because

> > > then

> > > > the

> > > > > mind will not create a problem. The mind will say, " Okay!

> This

> > > > belongs

> > > > > to us, so do it. " If it is not written in any scripture

then

> > the

> > > > mind

> > > > > will say, " What are you doing? " The mind goes against it.

> > > > >

> > > > > I said to the man, " You have been doing this method for

three

> > > > months.

> > > > > How are you feeling? " He said, " Wonderful. I am feeling

very

> > > > wonderful.

> > > > > But tell me... give some authority from the scriptures. "

His

> > own

> > > > feeling

> > > > > is not an authority at all. He says, " I am feeling

wonderful.

> I

> > > have

> > > > > become more silent, more peaceful, more loving. I am

feeling

> > > > wonderful. "

> > > > > But his own experience is not the authority. The mind asks

> for

> > an

> > > > > authority from the past.

> > > > > I told him, " It is not written anywhere in your

scriptures.

> > > Rather,

> > > > many

> > > > > things which are against this technique are written. " His

> face

> > > > became

> > > > > sad. And then he said, " Then it will be difficult for me

to

> do

> > it

> > > > and to

> > > > > continue it. "

> > > > >

> > > > > ==========

> > > > >

> > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > >

> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology , " sushil.dikshit "

> > > > > <sushil.dikshit@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rsspected Pram Sir,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pranam,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am a learner yet so does not possess so much knowledge

as

> > some

> > > > > > others in this group have. But as for as it is concerned

> that

> > a

> > > > > > person may be knowledgeable according to chart but may

not

> so

> > > > > > knowledgeable. Here I want to contribute one thing. If

we

> > want

> > > to

> > > > > > check his knowledge in the field of cocult sciences

(Vedic

> > > > astrology

> > > > > > and Tantra Sadhan) we should look into his 8H in D24. It

is

> > his

> > > > true

> > > > > > knowledgeable and A8(Arudh Pada) would show his

knowledge as

> > > > > > perceivable by us. So if he is not so knowledgeable

> according

> > to

> > > > > > chart. IT is true conclusion. If A8 shows he is

> > knowledgeable.

> > > It

> > > > > > mean he is able to make an impression on others about

his

> > > > knowledge

> > > > > > of astrology. In reality he does not have good knowledge.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Eleders are requested to enlighten me on my appoach.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > with regards

> > > > > > sushil dikshit

> > > > > > vedic astrology , Pram Chopra

> > > > > > pramchopra1964@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sushil

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > God Bless U

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is again the matter of Believe Consequence Likewise

> why

> > > don't

> > > > > > you ask him to analyse chart of harcharan's matter if he

> able

> > > to

> > > > give

> > > > > > the detail matter of analysis then the person is very

much

> > > learned

> > > > > > and chart may be not showing the exact matters.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A Foresight Prince of India

> > > > > > > Pram Chopra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sushil.dikshit sushil.dikshit@

> > > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > > Monday, September 3, 2007 9:51:28 PM

> > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Respected Gurujans ---

> > ethics

> > > for

> > > > > > astrologers -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Pranam,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Your have completely misunderstood the case. I don't

want

> > > that

> > > > you

> > > > > > > should leave the group and don't have any right to do

so.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Acutally I was having discussion on astrology with Dr.

> > Sunil

> > > > Singh

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > Lucknow based astrologer. I praised a lot Mr. Sunil

Nair

> > ji,

> > > > Rafal

> > > > > > > Ji, Mr. PVR Narsimha Rao and Shri Rath Saheb and you.

He

> > > could

> > > > not

> > > > > > > accept their praise and put before me a question as

> > challenge

> > > > > > before

> > > > > > > me and told me to put the questions before Rafal ji

and

> > Sunil

> > > > ji. I

> > > > > > > put the same question after narrating the incident. At

> this

> > > > point

> > > > > > he

> > > > > > > said it is against ethics to accept it as challenge.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here are details of Dr. Sunil Singh

> > > > > > > DOB : 10.07.1974

> > > > > > > Time : 22.16

> > > > > > > Place : Mirzapur

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > and the Challenge is

> > > > > > > 1. Whether Mr. Singh has good knowledge over vedic

> > astrology ?

> > > > > > > 2. Does he know tantras ?

> > > > > > > 3. Will he continue the profession or change it to

> > politics ?

> > > > > > > 3. Will he succeed in Politics and in which dasha ?

> > > > > > > Finally all these analysis should have astrological

> > > > explanations so

> > > > > > > that he can judge the approach.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I don't know whether I was right while praising great

> > people

> > > > like

> > > > > > > Rafal , Nair , PVR and Rath or wrong. That is why I

> > requested

> > > > all

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > you to guide me about ethics for Vedic Astrologer.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > with regards

> > > > > > > sushil dikshit

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology, Pram Chopra

> > > > > > > <pramchopra1964@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Sushil

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > God Bless U

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Do you want me to quit from this group too. If this

> give

> > > you

> > > > any

> > > > > > > help I can give this fruit to you. Please waiting for

> reply.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Pram chopra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sushil.dikshit <sushil.dikshit@ ...>

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > > > Monday, September 3, 2007 8:22:25 PM

> > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Respected Gurujans ---

> ethics

> > for

> > > > > > > astrologers -

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected Gurujans,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Pranam,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Today I had personal chat with Shri Sunil Nair. I

> > committed

> > > a

> > > > > > > mistake

> > > > > > > > during talk with an astrolgoer of Lucknow amd I

> explained

> > > > > > everthing

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > Mr. Nair. He pointed out that I was not following

> ethics

> > of

> > > > > > > astrology

> > > > > > > > in principle. He guided me not to use astrology in

> > > unethical

> > > > way

> > > > > > > > otherwise I will face the curse of Rishis. I felt he

> was

> > > quite

> > > > > > > > correct.

> > > > > > > > So I request all gurujans to guide me what are the

> basic

> > > > ethics

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > must

> > > > > > > > follow.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > with regards

> > > > > > > > sushil dikshit

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________

> > > _________ _

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