Why Talented Young boy died in accident ?

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Respected Astrologers

Why this Talented young boy died in accident Three weak back .

Astrologically which grahs behind this .

his birth data is

Name :> Late Gaurav

DOB :> 19-September-1983

Birth time :. 12:45 pm

Birth Place :> Phagwara Punjab ( near jullandhar )

 

sincerely

veerender kaushik

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vedic astrology , " veerender_kaushik "

<veerender_kaushik wrote:

>

> Respected Astrologers

> Why this Talented young boy died in accident Three weak

back .

> Astrologically which grahs behind this .

> his birth data is

> Name :> Late Gaurav

> DOB :> 19-September-1983

> Birth time :. 12:45 pm

> Birth Place :> Phagwara Punjab ( near jullandhar )

>

> sincerely

> veerender kaushik

>

 

|| Jaya Jagannatha ||

 

Sorry to hear this tragic incident .

 

His lagna cuspsal sub lord Rahu is connected with Maraka and Bhadaka

houses. Per KP system this gives less Ajus.

 

Lagna Lord mars is in Rasi Sandhi between the watery and firy signs

Cn and Leo . Further the LL and the 7th Lords are in the same degree.

Planetary war ?

 

sarasalai_siva

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Hare ramakrishna.

 

dear veerender kaushik ji ,

 

its realy sad to hear the news .This area of longitivity and death

is always i dont realy do it thinking its realm of god .

 

But i will quote some points from kerala shastras .

 

others may hav differrence of opinions .also u dont giv us the exact day

of event.

 

the 64th navamsa from lagna -here its venus ,and 64th navamsa from moon

-here its jupiter and 64th navamsa from sun --here its mars

 

so if u see dasa was jup-jup -rahu is going on and rahu represents 2

planets -one its sign lord venus and next its nakshatra lord mars

 

otherwise also planets in 2nnd or its lord and 7th or its lord or

ssossiated with them are marakas .SO here both is happening .

 

we dont know moon on the day of happening .

 

i invite more experienced or reserched opinions of scholars and elders

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem maha laxmai namah.

 

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vedic astrology , " sarasalai_siva "

<sivagnanalingam wrote:

>

> vedic astrology , " veerender_kaushik "

> veerender_kaushik@ wrote:

> >

> > Respected Astrologers

> > Why this Talented young boy died in accident Three weak

> back .

> > Astrologically which grahs behind this .

> > his birth data is

> > Name :> Late Gaurav

> > DOB :> 19-September-1983

> > Birth time :. 12:45 pm

> > Birth Place :> Phagwara Punjab ( near jullandhar )

> >

> > sincerely

> > veerender kaushik

> >

>

> || Jaya Jagannatha ||

>

> Sorry to hear this tragic incident .

>

> His lagna cuspsal sub lord Rahu is connected with Maraka and Bhadaka

> houses. Per KP system this gives less Ajus.

>

> Lagna Lord mars is in Rasi Sandhi between the watery and firy signs

> Cn and Leo . Further the LL and the 7th Lords are in the same degree.

> Planetary war ?

>

> sarasalai_siva

>

 

 

 

 

 

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*hare rama krsna*

Dear Jyotisha , Namaskar

 

AK is in ninth while Jupiter is in Kendra which gives longlife. Now

bandhana yoga from AK, L and LL can decrease it to madhya ayu while the

Moon position decreased it even more. Lagnesh is in gandantha in badhak

while Pakesh is in rasi-sandhi. There are 3 CK replacement where finally

Moon becomes AK and Varesh and in third it feels bad especially when

cursed. Finally there is grahamalik which ends in Ju/Ke Yoga which shows

death through accident. Ve aspects so it can be connected to car.

 

In Utpanna Scheme it was Ve-Ra - both are connected to Maraka in D1 and

D9 and Curse and in D6 they are in Marak house. It was Ar-Ta in Paryaya

Dasa - both lords are in 2nd bhava which shows danger.

 

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>

>

> Hare ramakrishna.

>

> dear veerender kaushik ji ,

>

> its realy sad to hear the news .This area of longitivity and death

> is always i dont realy do it thinking its realm of god .

>

> But i will quote some points from kerala shastras .

>

> others may hav differrence of opinions .also u dont giv us the exact day

> of event.

>

> the 64th navamsa from lagna -here its venus ,and 64th navamsa from moon

> -here its jupiter and 64th navamsa from sun --here its mars

>

> so if u see dasa was jup-jup -rahu is going on and rahu represents 2

> planets -one its sign lord venus and next its nakshatra lord mars

>

> otherwise also planets in 2nnd or its lord and 7th or its lord or

> ssossiated with them are marakas .SO here both is happening .

>

> we dont know moon on the day of happening .

>

> i invite more experienced or reserched opinions of scholars and elders

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem maha laxmai namah.

>

> http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/

> <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/>

> <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/

> <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/>>

>

> pt.sunilnair <pt.sunilnair%40gmail.com>

> <pt.sunilnair <pt.sunilnair%40gmail.com>>

>

> vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology%40>, " sarasalai_siva "

> <sivagnanalingam wrote:

> >

> > vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology%40>, " veerender_kaushik "

> > veerender_kaushik@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Astrologers

> > > Why this Talented young boy died in accident Three weak

> > back .

> > > Astrologically which grahs behind this .

> > > his birth data is

> > > Name :> Late Gaurav

> > > DOB :> 19-September-1983

> > > Birth time :. 12:45 pm

> > > Birth Place :> Phagwara Punjab ( near jullandhar )

> > >

> > > sincerely

> > > veerender kaushik

> > >

> >

> > || Jaya Jagannatha ||

> >

> > Sorry to hear this tragic incident .

> >

> > His lagna cuspsal sub lord Rahu is connected with Maraka and Bhadaka

> > houses. Per KP system this gives less Ajus.

> >

> > Lagna Lord mars is in Rasi Sandhi between the watery and firy signs

> > Cn and Leo . Further the LL and the 7th Lords are in the same degree.

> > Planetary war ?

> >

> > sarasalai_siva

> >

>

>

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Dear Sir,

 

Sorry to hear this sad news.

 

Basically, Chandra is weak being in a sandhi. Chandra being in

8th also affects longevity. Mars who is lagna lord is

debilitated.

 

Note that debilitated Mars has a strong aspect on weak Moon.

Mars also aspects Moon in Navamsha. Mars is the karaka for

accidents.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

--- veerender_kaushik <veerender_kaushik wrote:

 

> Respected Astrologers

> Why this Talented young boy died in accident Three

> weak back .

> Astrologically which grahs behind this .

> his birth data is

> Name :> Late Gaurav

> DOB :> 19-September-1983

> Birth time :. 12:45 pm

> Birth Place :> Phagwara Punjab ( near jullandhar )

>

> sincerely

> veerender kaushik

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Aadaranitya Kaushik Ji,

 

Om Ganadhipataye Namaha,

 

> > > birth data provided by you is

> > > Name :> Late Gaurav

> > > DOB :> 19-September-1983

> > > Birth time :. 12:45 pm

> > > Birth Place :> Phagwara Punjab ( near jullandhar )

31N14 75E46

 

 

First of all, my heartfelt condolences with bereaved and I pray for

the peace of the departed soul...

 

You rightly said the boy was brilliant with Mercury being in the 10th

and Jupiter Ketu being in the Lagna but unfortunate both contributed

some way or the other in the demise of the young man.

 

The lord of Lana Mars is in fall with the AK, Venus, in the 9th

house.

Lord of the second house is occupying Lagna in a Nodal axis. Lord of

the Seveth Venus and AK is is in the ninth.

 

Lord of Eighth Mercury is Retrograde and under Papa kartari in the

tenth house. Natural Ayushkakrka Saturn is in the 12th. This all

renders the horoscope a Little weak.

 

In Navamsa Moon is occupying the eight house.

 

While examining all the three pairs of Longevity determinants from

Jaimini method it gives Poornaaayu.

 

Where then is the catch??? It lies in if the Jaimini Sootra :

 

" YOGAATSAME SWASMIN VIPAREETAM "

 

If AK occupies the 7th or the 9th, reverse the indication of Aayu.

That is, in the instant Case, the Poorna Aayu will become Alpa Ayu

(short span of life).

 

See, the tragic event occurred in Char dasa of Leo housing Retrograde

Mercury, the lord of 8th house., and in the sub sub of Pisces which

happens to be AL. Leo - Pisces being 6th / 8th to each other. Leo

was the Rasi dasa under the scheme of Sthira dasa also...Leo and

Sagittarius do bring in the turning / transformation time for the

native as per the nature of the chart. in the instant case the life

unfortunately took a Lions Leap...

 

In the chart, lord of the 9th house Moon is is in the third aspecting

lord of Lagna and AK. It could have only guarantee 24 years of

life...at the minimum....Rest was upto the God...

 

Om Shanti...Shanti...Shanti.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " veerender_kaushik "

<veerender_kaushik wrote:

>

> Respected Astrologers

> Why this Talented young boy died in accident Three weak

back .

> Astrologically which grahs behind this .

> his birth data is

> Name :> Late Gaurav

> DOB :> 19-September-1983

> Birth time :. 12:45 pm

> Birth Place :> Phagwara Punjab ( near jullandhar )

>

> sincerely

> veerender kaushik

>

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Hare rama krishna,

dear veerender kaushik ji ,

sorry to hear the bad news of this smart young man,

I find the dasa of 64th navamsa lrods from lagna and moon and sun is happening in sequence.( its described in kerala sastras)

The dasa was jup --jup --rahu .

from lagna 64th navamsa lord is venus

from moon its jupiter

from sun its mars

here rahu is in venus rasi and mars nakshatra .

otherwise also marak lords can kill .As all know 2nd house and lord or planets there or assossiated with them and 7th house or lord or planets there or assossiated can kill a person .

Here jupiter is 2nd lord and rahu in 7th house .

regrding longitivity calculations also gives alpayus from navamsa calculations which i will refer some other time .

u did not postd the day of mishap and the time of it .Also u did not tell us which are the areas of his talent.Pls inform us for study purpose.

regrds sunil nair .

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/

pt.sunilnair

 

 

, "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> test mail> , Ajay Pandav leojay5@ wrote:> >> > Dear Ramesh,> >> > Thanks for ur reply.> > Yes you are right that mars comes in 9th house of> > lagna chart of that boy, however for judging the> > predictions and arriving at planetary effects, the> > cusp chart, i.e. bhavchalit kundali is more important> > and one gets the effect as per planetary position> > placed in cusp chart.> > As such, the mars in 9th house in lagna, comes in 8th> > house in cusp chart, and the present gochar transit of> > Mars is in 7th house which is also negative for a> > jataka having mars in 8th house.> >> > With best wishes,> > Ajay Pandav> > 9422202500> > --- "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" rgangaramani@> > wrote:> >> > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Ajay,> > >> > > I get lagna lord Mars in 9H. The basic details of> > > the chart drawn up by me> > > are as follows;> > >> > >> > >> > > September 19, 1983> > >> > > Time: 12:45:00> > >> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > >> > > Place: 75 E 46' 00", 31 N 13' 00"> > >> > > Phagwara, India> > >> > >> > >> > > Am I making any mistake? I have taken 12:45 pm as> > > afternoon.> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Ramesh> > >> > >> > >> > > _____> > >> > > > > > On> > > Behalf Of Ajay Pandav> > > Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:53 AM> > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Why Talented Young> > > boy died in accident ?> > >> > >> > >> > > R/Sir,> > > Really so sorry to go through the horoscope of late> > > Gaurav, the ascendant lord Mars is in 8th house is> > > one> > > of the important factor for accidental death, and> > > whenever gochar of mars transit in 7th and 8th, and> > > 12th houses, the accidents occurred in life.> > > I find that the remedial measures for such> > > horoscopes> > > are wearing of 8th mukhi rudraksha, chanting of> > > mahamrutunjay japa daily 11 times, and donating the> > > stones of badhakesh and markesh according to> > > ascendant.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Ajay Pandav> > > 9422202500> > > --- Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@> > > <krishna_1998%40> >> > > wrote:> > >> > > > Dear Sir,> > > >> > > > Sorry to hear this sad news.> > > >> > > > Basically, Chandra is weak being in a sandhi.> > > > Chandra being in> > > > 8th also affects longevity. Mars who is lagna lord> > > > is> > > > debilitated.> > > >> > > > Note that debilitated Mars has a strong aspect on> > > > weak Moon.> > > > Mars also aspects Moon in Navamsha. Mars is the> > > > karaka for> > > > accidents.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Krishna> > > >> > > >> > > > --- veerender_kaushik <veerender_kaushik@> > > <veerender_kaushik%40> >> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > Respected Astrologers> > > > > Why this Talented young boy died in> > > > accident Three> > > > > weak back .> > > > > Astrologically which grahs behind this .> > > > > his birth data is> > > > > Name :> Late Gaurav> > > > > DOB :> 19-September-1983> > > > > Birth time :. 12:45 pm> > > > > Birth Place :> Phagwara Punjab ( near jullandhar> > > > )> > > > >> > > > > sincerely> > > > > veerender kaushik> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > ________> > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals> > > > to amazing places on Travel.> > > > http://travel. <http://travel./>> > > /> > > >> > >> > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish.> > > To know how, go to> > > http://help.> > >> > <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html>> > >> > /l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Go to> http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html> >>

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Hare rama krishna .

respected swami ji .

the mehtod i explained is explaining it and only we hav to see a chart is whether it belongs to which catagary alpa,madhya,or full ayus .Regrding ayus --navamsa methods are there which is easy and all most i find correct but i will write it when appropriate time comes .Or any body can see it in prashna maarga.

then see the dasas which may come in a row and see transits for confirmation .

moon can show even the possible hours also .As moon will transit in a navamsa for 6 hours and lagna will say within 2 hours ( which i never tested it)

But we astrologers will never see a chart tru this eyes unless u r making his chart with the request of family and read it for them some what full life which is a practise in villages with prominent families .

Otherwise in normal consultations we see their immediate problem only and its happening .Other wise prashna or nimitta shud help a spiritual astrologer but who is listening them ?

I think this is easy and fool proof method .

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

pt.sunilnair

 

 

, <swami wrote:>> Dear friends,> I express my deep condolence for sad demise of Young Gaurav.> One question is hunting my mind after reading scholarly responses on this thread from various experts.> Could we have forseen the event, if chart was presented to us as astrologers?> Can someone honestly answer my question? if yes What reliable method or group of methods one should follow.> with regards.> OM TAT SAT> - > sunil nair > > Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:53 PM> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Why Talented Young boy died in accident ?> > > > Hare rama krishna,> > dear veerender kaushik ji ,> > sorry to hear the bad news of this smart young man,> > I find the dasa of 64th navamsa lrods from lagna and moon and sun is happening in sequence.( its described in kerala sastras) > > The dasa was jup --jup --rahu .> > from lagna 64th navamsa lord is venus > > from moon its jupiter > > from sun its mars > > here rahu is in venus rasi and mars nakshatra .> > otherwise also marak lords can kill .As all know 2nd house and lord or planets there or assossiated with them and 7th house or lord or planets there or assossiated can kill a person .> > Here jupiter is 2nd lord and rahu in 7th house .> > regrding longitivity calculations also gives alpayus from navamsa calculations which i will refer some other time .> > u did not postd the day of mishap and the time of it .Also u did not tell us which are the areas of his talent.Pls inform us for study purpose.> > regrds sunil nair .> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > pt.sunilnair > > > > > > , "sunil nair" astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > test mail> > , Ajay Pandav leojay5@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ramesh,> > >> > > Thanks for ur reply.> > > Yes you are right that mars comes in 9th house of> > > lagna chart of that boy, however for judging the> > > predictions and arriving at planetary effects, the> > > cusp chart, i.e. bhavchalit kundali is more important> > > and one gets the effect as per planetary position> > > placed in cusp chart.> > > As such, the mars in 9th house in lagna, comes in 8th> > > house in cusp chart, and the present gochar transit of> > > Mars is in 7th house which is also negative for a> > > jataka having mars in 8th house.> > >> > > With best wishes,> > > Ajay Pandav> > > 9422202500> > > --- "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" rgangaramani@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Ajay,> > > >> > > > I get lagna lord Mars in 9H. The basic details of> > > > the chart drawn up by me> > > > are as follows;> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > September 19, 1983> > > >> > > > Time: 12:45:00> > > >> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > >> > > > Place: 75 E 46' 00", 31 N 13' 00"> > > >> > > > Phagwara, India> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Am I making any mistake? I have taken 12:45 pm as> > > > afternoon.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > > Ramesh> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > _____> > > >> > > > > > > > On> > > > Behalf Of Ajay Pandav> > > > Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:53 AM> > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Why Talented Young> > > > boy died in accident ?> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > R/Sir,> > > > Really so sorry to go through the horoscope of late> > > > Gaurav, the ascendant lord Mars is in 8th house is> > > > one> > > > of the important factor for accidental death, and> > > > whenever gochar of mars transit in 7th and 8th, and> > > > 12th houses, the accidents occurred in life.> > > > I find that the remedial measures for such> > > > horoscopes> > > > are wearing of 8th mukhi rudraksha, chanting of> > > > mahamrutunjay japa daily 11 times, and donating the> > > > stones of badhakesh and markesh according to> > > > ascendant.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Ajay Pandav> > > > 9422202500> > > > --- Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@> > > > <krishna_1998%40> >> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > >> > > > > Sorry to hear this sad news.> > > > >> > > > > Basically, Chandra is weak being in a sandhi.> > > > > Chandra being in> > > > > 8th also affects longevity. Mars who is lagna lord> > > > > is> > > > > debilitated.> > > > >> > > > > Note that debilitated Mars has a strong aspect on> > > > > weak Moon.> > > > > Mars also aspects Moon in Navamsha. Mars is the> > > > > karaka for> > > > > accidents.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Krishna> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- veerender_kaushik <veerender_kaushik@> > > > <veerender_kaushik%40> >> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > Respected Astrologers> > > > > > Why this Talented young boy died in> > > > > accident Three> > > > > > weak back .> > > > > > Astrologically which grahs behind this .> > > > > > his birth data is> > > > > > Name :> Late Gaurav> > > > > > DOB :> 19-September-1983> > > > > > Birth time :. 12:45 pm> > > > > > Birth Place :> Phagwara Punjab ( near jullandhar> > > > > )> > > > > >> > > > > > sincerely> > > > > > veerender kaushik> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > ________> > > > > Need a vacation? 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