USA rectified chart (correction)/ONE POINT TO CLARIFY

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A private reply to my message to Jorge has questioned my description of the Vote on July 2nd where I have written: "to Declare Independency". Is there a possible confusion here with the purpose of the Vote on July 4th?

 

Answer in a word: "No". The relevant Resolution introduced on June 7, 1776 by Richard Henry Lee was clearly understood to have entailed a two-fold decision FOR INDEPENDENCY as well as ITS DECLARATION. One shouldn't confuse this with what transpired just about exactly 48 hours later, on the afternoon of July 4th. On that occasion the purpose of the Vote was strictly focused on the final emendations of The TEXT of the DECLARATION, nothing more; The TEXT first introduced to Congress on the previous Friday, June 28th by the Chairman of the Drafting Committee (The "Committee of Five"), Thomas Jefferson, the Declaration's principal

author.

 

Among the public in Philadelphia that week there were celebrations on the evening of July 2nd and again following the official city sponsored proclamation ceremony on Monday the 8th of July. The 4th was, in keeping with the comparative significance of that day's Vote, a quiet evening in Philadelphia. A year later Independence celebrations were held only on the 4th more because of the published date of the celebrated document than because of the actual significance of what was accomplished on that historic July 4th. In conclusion, John Adams was right about July 2nd: it was the day that really mattered most during that historic Congressional week.

 

 

A discussion of the metaphysical difference between the Vote on July 2nd and the Vote on July 4th is not part of my purpose here, but I will end on a provocative note: Both Voting events were handled in the same parliamentary manner by John Hancock, the President. On neither occasion, July 2nd and 4th, was anything SIGNED. The Friday July 5th publication of ""A DECLARATION"" carried the imprimaturs of John Hancock and John Thomson, but not their autographical signatures. Nothing was signed until that Friday July 5th, and then only Hancock's covering letters attendant on official distribution of the Document, as well as the personal correspondence of some of the Delegates with the Document as an enclosure. Autographical signatures of Hancock and the Delegates were ceremonially affixed by pen and ink to the August 2nd elegant parchment "re-printing" of the Document on which re-printing the title was changed from "A DECLARATION" to "THE UNANIMOUS

DECLARATION".

 

All the brouhaha about the July 4th "signing" is pure Hollywood Myth aided and abetted by many scholars supplying internet websites with fanciful, imaginative descriptions of Hancock's July 4th lonesome signature that never happened. They have no physical evidence of it to support their claims and they never will. And so I recommend to anyone curious enough, to go to google to view the image of the Dunlap Broadside (printed July 5th) and compare it to an image of THE UNANIMOUS DECLARATION (first re-printed for distribution only on January 18, 1777); Compare the John Hancocks on the two: To be sure one finds that on the Dunlap Broadside the autographical signature is absent. That's the rest of the story........................ JOHN TWB <jtwbjakarta wrote:

 

Hi Jorge,

 

I'm very happy to see the detailed and CONVINCING results of your revised rectification for the birth chart of the USA.

 

For the benefit of the group membership I will be very glad to field any questions of detail on the historical justification of this "mid-afternoon" time-moment choice, or offer bibliographic references depicting and confirming the background to Jorge's rectification.

 

Jorge certainly faced the challenge. Mundane rectification as you all know is really difficult in the absence of a clear unambiguous historical record.

 

P.S. But I must caution that I steadfastly eschew acrimonious discussions with believers, of which they are legion, who insist on other birth DATES for the USA, such as July 6th 1775, July 4th 1776 or other commonly proposed alternative dates. Discussion on these alternative dates' histories, yes; but I'll leave the metaphysical questions of horoscopic suitability to Jorge and Thor and others. Indisputably, the most momentous event of the first week of July 1776 was the culminating heroic effort of the delegates from the 13 United Colonies to reach agreement to Declare "Independency" from the Crown and Parliament of Great Britain, the Congress' approving vote finally taken in Philadelphia during the mid-afternoon on Tuesday July 2nd, 1776.

 

(And all this momentous accomplishment notwithstanding the fact that the formal concurring permission for the 13th delegation, New York, arrived days later. The New York delegates gave their non-voting assuring support on that historic day and so stayed the course that week in unity with the other 12, promising that once their New York convention met on July 8th their vote would soon after be counted as it was to be; in fact as it turned out by the proceedings of the N.Y. Constitutional Convention at White Plains, New York, just a few hours before George Washington's organized proclamation of the Declaration of Independence to his troops on the Bowling Green in New York City, Tuesday July 9th at about 6:00 pm)Best regards, John

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote:

 

 

Dear Thor and list members,

 

Regarding the USA chart (Virgo lagna), once again our dear was right. I was wrong. The ascendant of USA seems to be Scorpio instead of Virgo. We were on the correct date, July 2, but not with the right time (ascendant), that is why the Systems Approach was not functioning 100%.

 

After additional information provided by an US historian, Mr. John TWB, all the rectification process was done once again with more than 34 new events and the new TOB of 15:48:12 came out as highly probable. It gives a Scorpio ascendant, as previously suggested by Mr. John. The longitude of the rectified lagna is 3 degrees 22 minutes 53 seconds. Ve/Sa/Sa began on 13 October 2004.

 

USA, 2nd Congress

Jul 2, 1776 3:48 PM +05:00 EST

Philadelphia, PA:USA Longitude: 75W10 Latitude: 39N57

Lahiri Ayanamsha: 20:44 Current Period: VE/SA/SA

 

Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

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Asc 03:22 Sco Anuradha Sa

Sun 20:37 Gem +00:57:11 WK Punarvasu Ju

Moon 06:46 Cap +14:18:12 ST U.Shadya Su

Mars 29:13 Tau +00:41:03 FM Mrigsira Ma

MercR 04:16 Can -00:19:28 CM Pushya Sa

Jupt 14:43 Gem +00:13:35 CM Ardra Ra

Ven 09:50 Gem +01:13:28 FM Ardra Ra

Sat 24:00 Vir +00:01:36 WK Chitra Ma

Rahu 15:50 Can -00:00:47 FM Pushya Sa

Ketu 15:50 Cap -00:00:47 FM Shravana Mo

 

True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 908 beats

Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 4:37 AM

Tithi: Krishna Dvitiya

Yoga Pt: 0:43 Cn Yogi:Ju AviYogi:Su Dup Yogi: Mo

Dagha Rashis: Sag Pisces

 

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Some events to test/understand the USA rectified chart:

 

20 Worst Aviation Disasters Involving U.S. Carriers

 

Fatal Date Location Carrier Type

1 2752* 09/11/2001 New York City, New York American / United Airlines B767 /B767

2 583 03/27/1977 Tenerife, Canary Islands Pan Am / KLM B747 / B747

3 273 05/25/1979 Chicago, Illinois American Airlines DC10

4 270 12/21/1988 Lockerbie, Scotland Pan American World Airways B747

5 265 11/12/2001 Belle Harbor, Queens, New York American Airlines A300

6 256 12/12/1985 Gander, Newfoundland, Canada Arrow Airways DC8

7 230 07/17/1996 Off East Moriches, New York Trans World Airlines B747

8 189 09/11/2001 Arlington, Virginia American Airlines B757

9 160 12/20/1995 Buga, Columbia American Airlines B757

10 156 08/16/1987 Romulus, Michigan Northwest Airlines MD82

11 153 07/09/1982 Kenner, Louisiana Pan American World Airways B727

12 144 09/23/1978 San Diego, California Pacific Southwest/Private B727 /C172

13 135 08/02/1985 Ft. Worth-Dallas, Texas Delta Air Lines L1011

14 134 12/16/1960 Staten Island/Brooklyn, New York United Air Lines / TWA DC8 / L1049

15 132 09/08/1994 Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USAir B737

16 128 06/30/1956 Grand Canyon, Arizona United Airlines / TWA DC7 / L1049

17 115 06/24/1975 New York, New York Eastern Air Lines B727

18 112 07/19/1989 Sioux City, Iowa United Airlines DC10

- 111 09/04/1971 Juneau, Alaska Alaska Airlines B727

20 110 05/11/1996 Everglades, Miami, Florida Valujet DC9

 

Top 10 Natural Disasters in United States

sorted by numbers of people killed and affected

 

Disaster Date Killed

Wind Storm 8-Sep-1900 6,000

Earthquake 18-Apr-1906 2,000

Wind Storm Sep-1928 1,836

Extreme Temperature Jul-1936 1,193

Wild Fires 15-Oct-1918 1,000

Wind Storm 17-Mar-1925 739

Flood Mar-1913 732

Extreme Temperature 14-Jul-1995 670

Wind Storm Sep-1938 600

Wind Storm 13-Jun-1984 600

 

Disaster Date Affected

Wind Storm 5-Sep-2004 5,000,000

Wind Storm 13-Sep-1999 3,000,011

Wind Storm 30-Aug-1985 1,000,000

Wind Storm 5-Sep-1996 500,000

Epidemic Jan-1993 403,000

Wind Storm 11-Feb-1994 350,000

Wind Storm 24-Aug-1992 250,055

Wind Storm 18-Sep-2003 225,000

Wind Storm 28-Aug-1993 150,000

Flood 19-Jan-1996 150,000

 

1889 May 31. USA, Pennsylvania, Jonestown: dam break 2,209 people died (flood)

 

New York, New York - March 25, 1911. Triangle Shirtwaist factory fire. 146 dead.

 

Newfoundland - February 3, 1943. S.S. Dorchester is sunk. 904 people aboard. 605 dead.

 

18 May - 1980 Mount St. Helens, a volcanic peak in Washington, suffers a massive eruption losing 1,700 feet.

 

1927 April 20th. Mississippi, Greenville: about 500 people died, 162,000 homes were flooded and 41,000 buildings destroyed; rescue operations include 33,000 people.

 

The Whittier Narrows Earthquake of October 1, 1987. Epicenter: 34.0°N, 118.1°W; depth: 11 km; magnitude 5.9; damage: $358 million; 8 deaths.

 

USS Iowa explosion - 19 April 1989, an explosion of undetermined cause ripped through her Number Two

sixteen-inch gun turret killing 47 crewmen.

 

USS Pueblo, which was attacked and captured by the North Korean Navy on January 23, 1968, was the first United States Navy ship to be hijacked on the high seas by a foreign military force in over 150 years.

 

22 NOVEMBER 1975: The U.S. aircraft carrier USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67) collided with the cruiser USS Belknap (CG-26) in rough seas at night during air exercises in the Mediterranean Sea off Sicily. Seven sailors killed aboard

USS BELKNAP.

 

USAir Flight 427 crash - 08 SEP 1994 - All 132 people on board were killed.

 

On July 19, 1989, Crash of United Flight 232 at the Sioux City airport at 3:55 p.m. 184 people survived Sioux

City crash; 112 died.

 

1928 March 12th. USA, Los Angeles area: collapse of the San Francis Dam, estimated 450 people died, 900 buildings were destroyed, 300 houses damaged and 24,000 acres of agricultural land was devastated (flood)

 

1937 January 22nd. USA, Ohio & Mississippi River Valleys in Kentucky / Ohio: cities like Louisville and cincinnati were under water, nearly one million people became homeless, property damage estimated over 400 million, 380 people died (flood)

 

1976 July 31st. USA, Colorado, Big Thompson Canyon River: rain storm produced a 20-foot high flash flood over a 25-mile stretch of the canyon; 418 buildings were destroyed, hundreds of people injured and 139 people died

 

August 1, 1993. USA, Midwest / Mississippi: worst flooding in recorded history, 38,000 homes damaged or destroyed, 20

million acres of farmland under water. Ve/Ve/Ve

 

October 4, 1998. USA, Kansas, Kansas City:severe flash floods caused by heavy rain, city had no flood reaction plan, 12

people died. Ve/Mo/Ke

 

February 26, 1993, a massive explosion occurred in the public parking garage of the World Trade Center in

New York. Ve/Ve/Ve

 

April 19, 1995, around 9:03 a.m., just after parents dropped their children off at day care at the Murrah Federal

Building in downtown Oklahoma City, the unthinkable happened. A massive bomb inside a rental truck exploded, blowing half of the nine-story building into oblivion. Ve/Ve/Sa

 

At 11:38 a.m. EST on January 28, 1986, Space Shuttle Challenger lifted off from the launch pad 39B at Cape Canaveral's Kennedy Space Center. Seven astronauts were lost 73 seconds after launch when Space Shuttle Challenger exploded. Me/Sa/Ju

 

USS Stark (FFG-31), She is remembered for the incident of May 17, 1987 when she was struck by two Exocet missiles from an Iraqi Mirage fighter during the Iran-Iraq War. The fighter had taken off from Shaibah at 20:00 and had flown south into the Persian Gulf. Shortly after being routinely challenged by the frigate at around 22:10 the fighter fired two Exocet ASM missiles. Thirty-seven crew were killed and twenty-one were injured. Ke/Ve/Sa

 

August 7, 1998, bombing of the American Embassy in Nairobi. 80 killed. Ve/Mo/Me

 

Crash: loss of vertical stabilizer and shedding of both engines on American Airlines Airbus Model 300-600, followed by crash into residential area shortly after takeoff from JFK International. Deaths: 265. Belle Harbor, NY, USA. (November 12, 2001) - Ve/Ra/Me

 

Fire in wooden building and evacuation problems: The Station (nightclub). Deaths: 100. West Warwick, RI, USA. (Feb. 27,

2003) - Ve/Ra/Ma

 

Blackout: of Northeast US electrical grid. Report pending. People affected: Est. 30-50 million. (August 14, 2003) - Ve/Ju/Ju

 

Sultana (American steamboat): boiler explosion Mississippi River, near Memphis, Tennessee, United

States.

April 27, 1865. Deaths: at least 1,800 (ex-prisoners, crew and commercial passengers).

 

July 17, 1996. Mysterious crash of TWA Flight 800. 230 passengers died.

New London School: gas explosion. New London, Texas, United States. March 18, 1937. Deaths: 298 (students and teachers)

 

Texas City docks: explosions of two fertilizer-carrying ships. Texas City, Texas, United States. April 16-17, 1947.

Deaths: 580 (workers, firefighters and bystanders)

 

Thresher (American submarine): sunk. Atlantic Ocean. April 10, 1963. Deaths: 129 (crew and contractor personnel)

 

Canadian-United States Eastern Interconnection (CANUSE): blackout lasting up to 13 hours, affecting 30 million people

Northeast United States. November 9, 1965.

 

Eastern Airlines L-1011 airliner: crash into swamp at night. Everglades, Florida, United States. December 29,

1972.

Deaths: 101 (crew and passengers)

 

Hyatt Regency Hotel: collapse of two skywalks during “tea dance”. Kansas City, Missouri, United States. July 17,

1981.

Deaths: 114.

 

Galaxy Airlines Electra II airliner: crash during emergency return to airport. Reno, Nevada, United States. January 21,

1985. Deaths: 70

 

Pacific Engineering & Production Co. of Nevada (PEPCON): fire and explosion of 4,500 tons of ammonium perchlorate

Henderson, Nevada, United States. May 4, 1988. Deaths: 2 (managers on site)

 

Phillips 66 Co. Houston Chemical Complex: explosion and fire. Pasadena, Texas, United States. October 23, 1989.

Deaths: 23

 

ValuJet DC-9 airliner: crash following fire in cargo compartment. Everglades, Florida, United States. May 1,

1996.

Deaths: 110 (crew and passengers)

 

May 28, 1977, a devastating fire swept through the Beverly Hills Supper Club in Southgate, Ky. The fire was discovered shortly before 9 p.m. and burned most of the night. It killed 165 people.

 

Buffalo Creek, West Virginia - February 26, 1972. Dam breaks causing flood. 118 people die; 7 were missing. 4,000 homeless; 500 homes destroyed; $50 million in property damage.

 

February 3, 1943. S.S. Dorchester is sunk. 904 people aboard. 605 dead.

 

New York, New York - March 25, 1911. Triangle Shirtwaist factory fire. 146 dead.

 

Boston, Massachusetts - November 28, 1942. Coconut Grove nightclub fire. Kills 492. Injures 166.

 

Willamette Valley, Oregon - Columbus Day Storm, October 12, 1960. Forty-two people killed. $170 million property damage.

 

Rapid City, South Dakota - June 9 & 10, 1972. Floods killed 238 persons; left 1,300 families homeless; caused over $100 million in property damage.

 

Los Angeles, California - February 9, 1971. Earthquake kills 50.

 

Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania - June 23, 1972. Hurricane Agnes creates flood. Six people killed. 80,000 evacuated, damage to 25,000 homes and destruction of 400 homes. Property damage estimated at over $2 billion.

 

Southgate, Kentucky - May 28, 1977 - Beverly Hills Supper Club fire. Kills 165. Injures 60

 

1968 May 27, The US nuclear submarine Scorpion was lost.

 

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