Guest guest Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 According to Boyd & Campion, Cornwallis' surrender was brought to "closure" at 10:00 am on October 17th and that (according to Campion)the Oct 19th event cited in my previous message was only an after-the-fact formality. Campion's explanation is found in his THE BOOK OF WORLD HOROSCOPES, pages 421-22. Curiously the footnote reference cited does not support his contention: Henry B Carrington's BATTLES OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION: quote "At about 10:00 am on the 17th, Cornwallis sent a flag of truce, making a proposal for the cessation of hostilities"... Exactly right and exactly why this event DID NOT mark the closure of the surrender. Washington knew that Cornwallis was not in complete control of the British side of the battlefield situation. The threat of attack by the British navy was a distinct possibility which if realized would put all troops back on a live combat footing. The battle wasn't over until the British forces laid down their arms. It was really that straight forward and in keeping with military practice: it's not over until arms are surrendered. Appended here is a verbatim transcript of the Articles of Capitulation: On the afternoon of October 19th, 1781: . I. The garrisons at York and Gloucester to surrender themselves prisoners of war; the land troops to remain prisoners to the United States; the naval forces to the naval army of the French king. II. The artillery, munitions, stores, & c., to be delivered to proper officers appointed to receive them. III. The two redoubts captured on the sixteenth to be surrendered, one to the Americans, the other to the French troops. At 2:00 pm: The garrison at York to march out at two o’clock, with shouldered arms, colors cased, * and drums beating; there to lay down their arms and return to their encampment: The works on the Gloucester side to be delivered to the Americans and French; At 3:00 pm: the garrison to lay down their arms at three o’clock. IV. The officers to retain their side-arms, papers, and private property. Also, the property of Loyalists found in the garrison to be retained. V. The soldiers to be kept in Virginia, Maryland, and Pennsylvania, and to be subsisted by the Americans. British, Anspach, and Hessian officers allowed to be quartered near them, and supply them with clothing and necessities. VI. The officers allowed to go on parole to Europe, or to any part of the American confederacy; proper vessels to be granted by Count De Grasse to convey them, under flags of truce, to New York, within ten days, if they choose. Passports to be granted to those who go by land. VII. Officers allowed to keep soldiers as servants, and servants, not soldiers, not to be considered prisoners. VIII. The Bonetta to be under the entire control of Cornwallis, to go to New York with dispatches, and then to be delivered to Count De Grasse. † IX. Traders not considered close prisoners of war but on parole, and allowed three months to dispose of their property, or remove it. X. Loyalists not to be punished on account of having joined the British army. Considering this matter to be of a civil character, Washington would not assent to the article. XI. Proper hospitals to be furnished for the sick and wounded, they to be attended by the British surgeons. XII. Wagons to be furnished, if possible, for carrying the baggage of officers attending the soldiers, and of the hospital surgeons when traveling on account of the sick. XIII. The shipping and boats in the two harbors, with all their appendages, arms, and stores, to be delivered up, unimpaired, after the private property was unloaded. ‡ John TWB <jtwbjakarta wrote: Hi Group While I remain very much persuaded by Jorge's reckonong of the birthday of the USA, I still remain receptive to other possibilities, which are not of Constitutional import: Cornwallis' Surrender after the Battle of Yorktown, Virginia: The unofficial birthday of the USA, recognized by Military Masons: October 19, 1781 @ 3:00 pm (Based on Washington's written order to Cornwallis that "arms" be surrendered at 3:00 pm) Sun's placement: 08th House, Libra The Boston Tea Party: December 16, 1773: Actual dumping in the early evening hours following a general open-to-the-publicTown Meeting whereat the decision to dump resulted in a resolution duly voted on: unanimously, at about 2:45 pm. Sun's placement: 08th House, Sag Cheers, John Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: TOB 16:48:24 Jorge Sally Spencer [sally234] sábado, 13 de Novembro de 2004 12:08SAMVA Subject: Re: FW: USA rectified chart, Asc. 15:26 Scorpio You used 26 seconds in the time. Correct? Otherwise I get a lower ascendant degree. SallyJorge Angelino wrote: Correcção ao mapa anterior dos EUA… Um abraço, Jorge Jorge Angelino [jorge.angelino] quinta-feira, 11 de Novembro de 2004 05:12SAMVA Subject: USA rectified chart, Asc. 15:26 Scorpio Dear list members, Please forget about the previous rectified charts of USA. The chart to be tested through predictions should be this one: USA, 2nd Congress Jul 2, 1776 4:48 PM +05:00 EST Philadelphia, PA:USA Longitude: 75W10 Latitude: 39N57 Lahiri Ayanamsha: 20:44 Current Period: VE/SA/SA Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord ================================================ Asc 15:26 Sco Anuradha Sa Sun 20:39 Gem +00:57:11 WK Punarvasu Ju Moon 07:22 Cap +14:18:36 WK U.Shadya Su Mars 29:15 Tau +00:41:03 FM Mrigsira Ma MercR 04:15 Can -00:19:39 CM Pushya Sa Jupt 14:44 Gem +00:13:35 CM Ardra Ra Ven 09:53 Gem +01:13:28 FM Ardra Ra Sat 24:00 Vir +00:01:37 WK Chitra Ma Rahu 15:50 Can -00:00:44 FM Pushya Sa Ketu 15:50 Cap -00:00:44 FM Shravana Mo True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 950 beats Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 4:37 AM Tithi: Krishna Dvitiya Yoga Pt: 1:21 Cn Yogi:Ju AviYogi:Su Dup Yogi: Mo Dagha Rashis: Sag Pisces Rashi Chart ******************************************************* ** 9 * * 7 ** *10* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *MO 07:22 * * * * * *KE 15:50 * 8 AS 15:26 * 6 SA 24:00* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * ** *11 * 5 * ** * * ** *12* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * MER04:15* * * 2 MA 29:15 * 4 RA 15:50* * * * * * * * * * VE 09:53* * * * * * JU 14:44 * * * * * * SU 20:39 * * * * * * * * ** 1 * * 3 ** ******************************************************* Navamsha ******************************************************* ** 9 * * 7 ** *10* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * VE * * * * * * * AS * * * * * 8 RA * 6 MA * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * MER ** *11 JU * 5 SA * ** * * ** *12* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *MO * 2 KE * 4 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SU * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** 1 * * 3 ** ******************************************************* Best wishes, satva Jorge Angelino Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 292925-598 AzeitãoPortugal jorge.angelino tel: mobile: 210813674963916784 Add me to your address book... 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