Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Dear Friends: Here's a fun exchange about the nature of Jupiter & Saturn.... over the next few years.. Mark K. Hi Sam: Glad you liked it. And thanks for the heads up about the typo. You're first one of 2 people who noticed. You said: Also, while I have your attention, could you also explain what it means that Jupiter will be Retrograde at 15 degrees in Virgo on May 16, 2005 and at 18 degrees in Libra on May 16, 2006. You mean Jupter at 15 degees Leo, on May 16, 2005 When you watch Jupiter, you come to realize many things that 'Guru' represents. Jupiter represents progress, and prosperity. It is especially associated with expansive tendencies, and spirituality. Also, practical experience shows that Jupiter going through the different Signs represents different aspects of 'Beneficness' for Jupiter as well as different shades of karma for us, with our individual charts.. I had a lot of fun watching Jupiter moving thorugh Cancer last year, since it's supposed to be Exalted in Cancer. Also, because I have Cancer in my 10th House, it was quite fun, moving through there. However, since Jupiter's gone into Leo, I've really noticed it having a very good, positive influence upon my 11th House. Jupiter retrograde, however, generally represents a slowing down, an inward stage of Jupiter, which is very telling. Now, the difference between Jupiter in Virgo and Libra....... represents both a difference in quality of Jupiter.... but I also wanted people to understand that Jupiter and Saturn have been in an important relationship for awhile, and that movement through Virgo...would be about 'that' relationship as well. In 2005, Jupiter will be in Virgo, but Saturn will still be close to influencing Jupiter, due to it's 3rd House aspect....since Saturn's at 29 degrees of Gemini, on the 16th of 2005, but then quickly goes back into Cancer...where it continues to influence Jupiter in Virgo... So, it's really only in 2006, that Jupiter finally breaks free! take care Mark K. ps.... If you don't mind, I'd love it if you'd send emails and questions, comments, through our new Nature's Astrology chart, in case you'd be open to sharing thoughts with others of our group. You can go to: / to sign up. Mark " samroy7 " <samroy7 Sun, 16 May 2004 13:01:31 -0400 " Mark Kincaid " <m.kincaid RE: 5/16 Sunday's Star Report Waning Moon & Jupiter, Saturn & Rahu....Planetary Aspect, now! 04jfm Mark, Good Afternoon!!! Very Good Newsletter---I have flagged it for future reference!!! I just wanted to point out a typo, on May 16, 2006, Rahu will be at 9 degrees Pisces (not at 28 degrees Pisces, which is correct for May 16, 2005 only). Also, while I have your attention, could you also explain what it means that Jupiter will be Retrograde at 15 degrees in Virgo on May 16, 2005 and at 18 degrees in Libra on May 16, 2006. Will await your reply or supplemental message. Thanks, SAM Mark Kincaid [m.kincaid] Sunday, May 16, 2004 12:22 PM 5/16 Sunday's Star Report Waning Moon & Jupiter, Saturn & Rahu....Planetary Aspect, now! 04jfm Starlight Unlimited PO Box 1831 Fairfield, Iowa US 52556 (641) 472-0000 Nature's Astrology: Star Report Sunday, 5/16....11am...CDT, US Add on top of that, the intense mutual aspects between Jupiter, Saturn, & Rahu.... and you can see the state of the World in these transits... Jupiter's now at 15 degrees Leo....(though moving forward) and Saturn's now at 16 degrees, in Gemini.... So, Jupiter's moving very close to the 3rd House aspect of Saturn...and the economies, markets, (expressive of Jupiter & Saturn, the 2 primary planets of progress and prosperity).... So, the markets are down, and/or very sluggish! Add, on top of even this..the fact that Rahu's still at 17 degrees of Aries... and Rahu is directly influencing Jupiter's 15 degree of Leo, due to it's 5th House aspect from Aries.... This condition will continue for at least a month... June/16/04 when Jupiter moves, very slowly to it's 17th degree of Leo, and Saturn will be at 20 degrees of Gemini, on June 16th..... and Rahu will be still very close in it's mutual influence,....at 16 degrees of Aries... Then in July ....on July 16, 2004.... Jupiter will finally have pulled away from the bizarre influences of Rahu, Jupiter being at 21 degrees of Leo, and Rahu will be at 14 degrees....Aries... But, Saturn will still be dogging Jupiter, running still very close to Jupiter, Saturn at 24 degrees in Gemini.... And finally, by August, specifically on... August 16, ..... Jupiter will have moved to the 27th degree of Leo.... while Saturn...will also be at the 27th degrees of Gemini.... This will be a very intense....time....! Though, fortunately, Rahu will be pretty far from the heighth of it's malefic effects, now...at only 10 degrees of Aries.... This time, will be very hard for many people...as Saturn acts too malefically, for most... However, if you approach your progress and prosperity....issues.... by taking into account.... the needed time, and patience, that Saturn recommends,....then this time can be good.... Only be prepared! By....September....and specifically on 9/16/04.... Jupiter will have moved into Virgo, and at 4 degrees... while....Saturn... will be at 00:59 degrees Cancer... So, they're still very close in their degree, but at least Jupiter is beginning to move ahead... By...October....and specifically on 10/16/04.... Jupiter will have moved to the 10th degree of Virgo, while... Saturn will finally start to fall behind, at 2 degrees..... And in...November....and specifically on 11/16/04.... Jupiter will have moved to the 17th degree of Virgo, while... Saturn will only be at 3 degrees, and will in fact have become retrograde which will make it's malefic influences, less so.... So, Jupiter's progressive, expansive nature will finally start moving ahead, but I don't think it'll be soon enough for George Bush.... And finally in...December....and specifically on 12/16/04.... Jupiter will have moved to the 21st degree of Virgo, while... Saturn will only be at 2 degrees, of Cancer, due to it's Retrograde motion... This should represent the beginning of a nice.... Jupiter expansion... finally after over 4 years....of sluggishness....due to the Saturn/Jupiter planetary war.... which first began....in the middle of 1999, take June 16, 1999 for example, when Jupiter climbed into Aries, on that day, at 4 degrees of Aries, while Saturn was also, in Aries, (where Saturn's debilitated by the way), and at 21 degrees of Aries... Ever since that time, Jupiter & Saturn...have been dancing through the sky, with especially Saturn negatively effecting Jupiter's nature to expand... The positive side, is that these Saturn times, are meant to be powerful, healing, and rest periods.... where in fact, whole economies, and cultures, are meant to slow down, and rest from previous Jupiter periods... as was the case for the 12 years previously to 1999. In Conclusion: Next Few Years: Today: May 16, 2004..... Jupiter: 15 degrees Leo... Saturn: 16 degrees Gemini.... (Still way too close!) Rahu: 17 degrees Aries... (Also negatively, malefically influencing Jupiter) Next Year....May 16, 2005..... Jupiter: 15 degrees Virgo... Jupiter really beginning to move ahead! Saturn: 29 degrees Gemini.... Not close at all, finally Rahu: 28 degrees Pisces... (Rahu & Ketu will have moved into new Signs) May 16, 2006..... Jupiter: 18 degrees Libra... Finally Jupiter really moving on, picking up Speed..... Saturn: 11 degrees Cancer.... And really not aspecting Jupiter! Rahu: 28 degrees Pisces... (Rahu & Ketu will have moved into new Signs) Special Quote of the Day! " The future belongs to those who believe in the beautfy of their dreams. You can have anything you want - if you want it badly enough. You can be anything you want to be, do anything you set out to accomplish... if you hold that desire with singleness of purpose. " Abraham Lincoln This quote may have been more perfect during the Sun's exaltation... but I thought it might be worth including... especially now as we go through a few remaining months of tension between, Jupiter, Saturn & Rahu! We can have anything we want! But, Saturn teaches us how to hold on to that desire with singleness.... Which is .... in Silence! Good Luck! And... God, Guru.....bless.... Mark Kincaid Jai Guru! For those of you who are new to this Newsletter, we also have a Web site on Nature's Astrology, see below. For More Jyotish; please go to: New Website Coming Soon! Nature's Astrology.... Site: Have you seen the new up-dates for our new, Nature's Astrology website?... Check it out! Angelia Mansfield is doing a great job in the website design! Send her some of your business! http://www.sun-angel.com// Still in Progress! Will Announce when finally ready.... 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Payments: All payments can be made through my paypal.com account Please use my below account name/email address when submitting. kincaidmark Otherwise payments can be sent to: Starlight Unlimited Checks or money orders c/o Mark Kincaid PO Box 1831 Fairfield, Iowa 52556 Some Samples of People who've had charts 'Done', or 'Read'. From Sally, Milwaukee, Wisconsin..... US " Mark, You did a reading for me about my relationship with my husband. He and I have a contentious marriage. You looked at our charts and saw exactly why he's been in a dark time for several years. You then told me that he could be lifting out of that, in 5-6 months. Other advice you gave me was to be 'love' for him, to show him the way out of the darkness. You said that by holding steadfast to my spiritual disciplines and showing him a path, not pushing, but just being an example, it would help him out of his troubles. You said to be love for him, but NOT to just take it when he is being difficult. Not let him be a bully. But, be love, and stand up to him and you helped me realize, ...I could walk away when he's being less than respectful, in a conversation. I really needed to hear these things and I immediately put them into practice. It has helped immensely. I appreciate your sage advice. " Sally From Sheryll, Chicago, Illinois US " Mark, I've dubbed, the 'Practical Astrologer'. I've had charts done before that focused on my natal chart, or maybe transits, but I didn't feel like I had the whole picture. The information I got didn't exactly fit my experience. I started reading Mark's star reports and his descriptions of the impact of chart, transits and dasas. All three must be considered to get an accurate picture. I decided that I needed a reading that would focus on all three as they relate to many aspects in my life. 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