please do not step beyond limits - explanation withJanakiraman's case... 22/7

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Dear Mohanrammji

 

it is true astrology is not about accuracy but it is more than that something

that can help soothe a ruffled mind, soul find a direction in gloom as the

saying goes misfortune doesnt come single but many follow why is is because

people get dumb struck or bogged down by an even and may slip attention on

others that pile up just like a wild fire if checked correctly limits its damage

but one reacts late all will be lost.

 

at times we can even givem the a sugar coated reading as our job is to counsel

not excel in predicting we can bring some hope and from hope direction to future

issues can be deealt better even if a current crisis we [appear not to indicate

though we may know it and also know che client can;t take it] without assessing

a clients mental strength readings must not be given a face to face sitting

makes a lot of difference always.

on KP i had a similar line and had a few mean people target me in cheap style in

a different group by BM and his cronies Tarun etc.

 

where I defend krshnamurthy as a great seer not his concepts as no one has come

anywhere near him so he wasa gifted man not his system where as vedic if

followed correctly there are centuries of successful astrologers, it is the

capacity to handle such great works effectively with dharmic, satvic life where

intution opens the right ends in delivering them systems are just the means

right approach is more important where almighty has his touch too a davignya is

a instrument of god not god.

 

 

 

 

best wishes

 

G B Prashant Kumar

 

 

 

mohanraaam <mohanraaam

vedic astrology

Saturday, July 21, 2007 12:54:49 PM

[vedic astrology] please do not step beyond limits - explanation

withJanakiraman's case...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Pramchopra:

 

 

 

It is not clear what you wanted to say to the esteemed expert!

 

Panditji has responded to the query of a member......

 

 

 

In fact, astrologers who predict generally and based on generic

 

axioms sometimes unwittingly give more accurate readings than those

 

who claim that they are accurate with their researches which are

 

usually hit or miss! Please try to change your approach. In fact KP

 

astrology itself has the reputation of " hit or miss " , and the

 

literature of KP books trashing traditional astrology again and again

 

claiming it as the ONLY accurate method is an absurdity. You people

 

claim that you have subdivided the zodiac into 249 divisions which is

 

more than the 108 navamsas and hence the sub-points are more

 

accurate. But, in traditional astrology we have naadiamsas and

 

sookshmanaadiamasas which divide the zodiac circle into far more

 

minute divisions. KP authors usually gloss over this fact and act as

 

if traditional astrology is limited in scope and KP is the best. No

 

doubt, KP astrology has very strong points and it was devised by

 

Shri. Krishnamurthiji of revered memory after great research. For

 

your information, I am a person who has personally worked with

 

Krishnamurthiji and know what a great savant he was! No other KP

 

astrologer after him has that calibere.... and Krishnamurthiji was an

 

expert who started with traditional astrology and he had the highest

 

respect for traditional astrology. He was critical only of half-baked

 

astrologers of ancient traditions; otherwise, he himself used to

 

admire astrological dictums and axioms, and had standard techniques

 

culled from them himself!

 

 

 

The style of prediction is unique to each astrologer, and the main

 

idea of astrolgy is not " fortune-telling " of the hit and miss type;

 

but to educate the individuals concerned towards taking " informed

 

decisions " . Too much fatalistic predictions will never do the

 

subject any good; and your failures will reflect on the subject

 

itself.

 

 

 

Blessings,

 

Mohanraaam.- -- In vedic astrology, Pram Chopra

 

<pramchopra1964@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

> Dear Dakshinastrologer

 

>

 

> God Bless U

 

>

 

> My Experience says about client and astrologer is you have to be

 

more precise fix and to the point. What ever i am giving in my

 

postings is honesty and my firm will with my skill and intuitions

 

with grace of God. I love God because I believe that God is watching

 

me every moment of course.

 

>

 

> A Foresight Prince of India

 

> Prem Chopra

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@ ...>

 

> vedic astrology

 

> Saturday, July 21, 2007 10:55:49 AM

 

> [vedic astrology] Re: A question for all savants

 

(compatibility between astro and client) - update

 

>

 

> Dear Shri Primus:

 

>

 

> Another important thing I left out.....

 

>

 

> If the compatibility between the astrologer and the client is not

 

> good (for instance if the client's lagna is 8th or 6th to the

 

> astrologer's horoscope), even then it will not affect the actual

 

> efficacy of the reading. But, the " perceived satisfaction " of the

 

> client may be missing in the reading. That is, though the client

 

> gets a satisfactory reading, he/she will feel as if they have not

 

got

 

> enough.

 

>

 

> If the querent's lagna or Moon is 7th to the astrologer's lagna or

 

> Moon, the professional relationship might start with differences

 

but

 

> they will still be gravitated towards each other. The client will

 

> usually give gruding respect to the astrologer though often they

 

may

 

> not see eye to eye regarding some suggestions.

 

>

 

> But, it is better not check these before a reading because this

 

will

 

> spoil the astrologer's objectivity. Unless an astrologer is

 

> objective and uninfluenced by other external factors, predictions

 

> might lose their " sharpness " and " accuracy " .

 

>

 

> Blessed be.

 

> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

 

>

 

> vedic astrology, " dakshinastrologer "

 

> <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Dear Shri. Primus:

 

> >

 

> > No....the astrologer must never check the compatibility between

 

his

 

> > chart and his client's chart. A king may have subjects who may

 

not

 

> > have a good impression about him or who may not be compatible to

 

> > him. But, Raaja Dharma of those days demanded that the king

 

should

 

> > be above such considerations (there have been many ideal rulers

 

who

 

> > have followed this). Like this, an astrologer must always provide

 

> > services to any client who requests his service with a sincere

 

> > intent. If the client treats the astrologer with respect,

 

> regarding

 

> > the person giving the prediction the respect due to a Guru with

 

> vedic

 

> > etiquette, and humbly presents the query, no matter how their

 

> > individual compatibilities be, the interactions will turn out to

 

be

 

> > most cordial for both parties concerned.

 

> >

 

> > The positional respect and protocols (Rafalji has also written

 

this

 

> > in one of his recent mails) being followed will overshadow all

 

> > possible negative influences based on natal compatibilities

 

between

 

> > the astrologer and the client. Actually works like Prashna Maarga

 

> > clearly indicate how the querent should approach the astrologer

 

and

 

> > how the astrologer should answer queries. Both cannot stray in

 

> those

 

> > protocols.

 

> >

 

> > Problems between good astrologers and clients is a rarity. If the

 

> > astrologer has dealt with thousands of cases, probably one or two

 

> > might be dissatisfied. That is an infinitesimal minority and not

 

> > worthy of consideration at all. The problem might be more due to

 

> the

 

> > inherent nature of the person. Once a person requests help, it

 

> might

 

> > be impossible for the astrologer to check whether that person has

 

> > good attitude,etc. because just to check the odd apple out of

 

> 10,000

 

> > good apples, the astrologer cannot waste time applying the great

 

> > principles to everyone which is a waste of time. The astrologer

 

> has

 

> > to necessariy go by the attitude as shown by the mails/

 

> > interactions. If he/ she is not satisfied with the tone/

 

perceived

 

> > attitude of the client, it is best to reject the client right

 

away.

 

> >

 

> > Relying on one's own inner voice and heeding it completely is

 

best

 

> > for astrologers while deciding whether to take a client or not.

 

Of

 

> > course, prashna charts will indicate whether the " intent " is good

 

> or

 

> > not. In my experience, I have found that even if the " intent " is

 

> not

 

> > dishonest, there are certain persons with an inherent " I-am-not-

 

> > satisfied; I deserve something better " attitude, who will never

 

get

 

> > satisfied. But, they will be the same with every person. That

 

> > attitude is their problem, not the astrologer's. A good

 

> astrologer's

 

> > reputation is not easily tarnished no matter who writes what

 

about

 

> > him/ her. Only the emotional trauma of being rubbished and the

 

> hurt

 

> > professional pride might be there. It will pass away with the

 

> > soothing reassurances of other satisfied clients who are in the

 

> > majority.

 

> >

 

> > In short, the astrologer should strive to serve every person who

 

> > approaches him/ her with a humble and prayerful attitude. The

 

> > astrologer- in turn should adopt a humble attitude " By God's

 

Grace,

 

> I

 

> > am a tool in deciphering the Fate of this individual and in

 

> providing

 

> > insight to the client. Let Divinities guide me best " .

 

> >

 

> > Blessed be.

 

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

 

> >

 

> > - In vedic astrology, " Jyotish Volunteers "

 

> > <primusjyotishi@ > wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > > When a client approaches a divinator (astrologer for instance)

 

> > > Should the astrologer first run a compatibility analysis

 

between

 

> > the

 

> > > nativity and the astrologer's chart before accepting the client?

 

> > >

 

> > > As a regular practice?

 

> > >

 

> > > Any clues as to what the compatibility must include?

 

> > >

 

> > > Has anyone looked into this earlier and what were their

 

findings,

 

> > if

 

> > > they would care to share?

 

> > >

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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