Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Last Updated: Monday, 14 November 2005, 09:56 GMT France seeks to extend crisis law The unrest has persisted for 18 days The French cabinet is to ask parliament to extend a state of emergency aimed at tackling unrest in impoverished suburbs by three months, a spokesman has said. The laws, which allow local councils to impose curfews and ban gatherings, were introduced last Wednesday for 12 days. Parliament is expected to approve an extension of the laws, which officials say have helped curb the rioting. There were scattered incidents overnight. The EU has offered France 50m euros ($59m; £34m) to help recover. European Commission head Jose Manuel Barroso said up to 1bn euros could be made available eventually for job creation and to help social cohesion. French insurers estimate that damage claims alone will reach 200m euros. Curfews The cabinet is expected to propose extending the emergency laws for three months from 21 November. CARS BURNED 13 November: 284 cars 12 November: 374 cars 11 November: 502 cars 10 November: 463 cars 9 November: 394 cars 8 November: 617 cars 7 November: 1,400 cars The extension of the state of emergency beyond 12 days can only be authorised by a law passed by parliament. " To limit these exceptional measures to what is strictly necessary, the draft bill would allow them to be ended by decree before the expiration, " government spokesman Jean-Francois Cope said. The BBC's David Chazan in Paris says the bill is likely to pass. The laws allow local authorities to impose stringent security measures, including curfews and bans on public gatherings. About 40 towns and cities have used the laws to introduce temporary curfews for minors. Paris banned public meetings on Saturday, over fears of violent demonstrations. Downward trend Unrest has persisted among mainly Arab and African communities on rundown housing estates for 18 straight nights, since the accidental deaths last month of two teenagers who were reportedly trying to hide from police. Police said 284 cars were set on fire overnight on Sunday, and 115 people were arrested. Vandals rammed a car into a primary school in the southern city of Toulouse before setting the building on fire. In northern France, arsonists set fire to a sports centre in the suburb of Faches-Thumesnil and a school in the town of Halluin. If the downwards trend continues, " things could return to normal very quickly " , national police chief Michel Gaudin said. Also on Sunday, Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy said France would this week begin deporting up to 120 foreigners found guilty of involvement in the riots. The far-right National Front party, which has a zero-immigration platform, is to hold a rally in Paris on Monday to protest the disturbances. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4434576.stm Dear List Members, Dasha: Sa/Mo/Ve/Ju/Ve. Best wishes, satva Jorge Angelino Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 2925-598 Azeitão Portugal jorge.angelino tel: mobile: 210813674 963916784 Add me to your address book... Want a signature like this? -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release 11.11.2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005  Hello my dear Jorge, Currently there are multiple transit influences which do not show early relief in the situation. Natal Mercury and the Sun are under the exact affliction of transit Saturn (MMP) and under the close affliction of Rahu and Ketu. Transit Jupiter closely afflicts the natal Jupiter. MMP Saturn also closely afflicts transit Mars. These influences show that there is mass unrest involving chaos and violence. Some amount of control of situation appears to be forthcoming when the Sun moves to Scorpio but situation continues to be quite difficult for another about couple of months. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Monday, November 14, 2005 3:56 PM France seeks to extend crisis law Last Updated: Monday, 14 November 2005, 09:56 GMT France seeks to extend crisis law The unrest has persisted for 18 days The French cabinet is to ask parliament to extend a state of emergency aimed at tackling unrest in impoverished suburbs by three months, a spokesman has said. The laws, which allow local councils to impose curfews and ban gatherings, were introduced last Wednesday for 12 days. Parliament is expected to approve an extension of the laws, which officials say have helped curb the rioting. There were scattered incidents overnight. The EU has offered France 50m euros ($59m; £34m) to help recover. European Commission head Jose Manuel Barroso said up to 1bn euros could be made available eventually for job creation and to help social cohesion. French insurers estimate that damage claims alone will reach 200m euros. Curfews The cabinet is expected to propose extending the emergency laws for three months from 21 November. CARS BURNED 13 November: 284 cars 12 November: 374 cars 11 November: 502 cars 10 November: 463 cars 9 November: 394 cars 8 November: 617 cars 7 November: 1,400 cars The extension of the state of emergency beyond 12 days can only be authorised by a law passed by parliament. "To limit these exceptional measures to what is strictly necessary, the draft bill would allow them to be ended by decree before the expiration," government spokesman Jean-Francois Cope said. The BBC's David Chazan in Paris says the bill is likely to pass. The laws allow local authorities to impose stringent security measures, including curfews and bans on public gatherings. About 40 towns and cities have used the laws to introduce temporary curfews for minors. Paris banned public meetings on Saturday, over fears of violent demonstrations. Downward trend Unrest has persisted among mainly Arab and African communities on rundown housing estates for 18 straight nights, since the accidental deaths last month of two teenagers who were reportedly trying to hide from police. Police said 284 cars were set on fire overnight on Sunday, and 115 people were arrested. Vandals rammed a car into a primary school in the southern city of Toulouse before setting the building on fire. In northern France, arsonists set fire to a sports centre in the suburb of Faches-Thumesnil and a school in the town of Halluin. If the downwards trend continues, "things could return to normal very quickly", national police chief Michel Gaudin said. Also on Sunday, Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy said France would this week begin deporting up to 120 foreigners found guilty of involvement in the riots. The far-right National Front party, which has a zero-immigration platform, is to hold a rally in Paris on Monday to protest the disturbances. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4434576.stm Dear List Members, Dasha: Sa/Mo/Ve/Ju/Ve. Best wishes, satva Jorge Angelino Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 292925-598 AzeitãoPortugal jorge.angelino tel: mobile: 210813674963916784 Add me to your address book... Want a signature like this? --Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release 11.11.2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 My dear Professor, Thank you for your clarification on this subject. I am of the same opinion. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha segunda-feira, 14 de Novembro de 2005 11:33 SAMVA Re: France seeks to extend crisis law Hello my dear Jorge, Currently there are multiple transit influences which do not show early relief in the situation. Natal Mercury and the Sun are under the exact affliction of transit Saturn (MMP) and under the close affliction of Rahu and Ketu. Transit Jupiter closely afflicts the natal Jupiter. MMP Saturn also closely afflicts transit Mars. These influences show that there is mass unrest involving chaos and violence. Some amount of control of situation appears to be forthcoming when the Sun moves to Scorpio but situation continues to be quite difficult for another about couple of months. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Monday, November 14, 2005 3:56 PM France seeks to extend crisis law Last Updated: Monday, 14 November 2005, 09:56 GMT France seeks to extend crisis law The unrest has persisted for 18 days The French cabinet is to ask parliament to extend a state of emergency aimed at tackling unrest in impoverished suburbs by three months, a spokesman has said. The laws, which allow local councils to impose curfews and ban gatherings, were introduced last Wednesday for 12 days. Parliament is expected to approve an extension of the laws, which officials say have helped curb the rioting. There were scattered incidents overnight. The EU has offered France 50m euros ($59m; £34m) to help recover. European Commission head Jose Manuel Barroso said up to 1bn euros could be made available eventually for job creation and to help social cohesion. French insurers estimate that damage claims alone will reach 200m euros. Curfews The cabinet is expected to propose extending the emergency laws for three months from 21 November. CARS BURNED 13 November: 284 cars 12 November: 374 cars 11 November: 502 cars 10 November: 463 cars 9 November: 394 cars 8 November: 617 cars 7 November: 1,400 cars The extension of the state of emergency beyond 12 days can only be authorised by a law passed by parliament. " To limit these exceptional measures to what is strictly necessary, the draft bill would allow them to be ended by decree before the expiration, " government spokesman Jean-Francois Cope said. The BBC's David Chazan in Paris says the bill is likely to pass. The laws allow local authorities to impose stringent security measures, including curfews and bans on public gatherings. About 40 towns and cities have used the laws to introduce temporary curfews for minors. Paris banned public meetings on Saturday, over fears of violent demonstrations. Downward trend Unrest has persisted among mainly Arab and African communities on rundown housing estates for 18 straight nights, since the accidental deaths last month of two teenagers who were reportedly trying to hide from police. Police said 284 cars were set on fire overnight on Sunday, and 115 people were arrested. Vandals rammed a car into a primary school in the southern city of Toulouse before setting the building on fire. In northern France, arsonists set fire to a sports centre in the suburb of Faches-Thumesnil and a school in the town of Halluin. If the downwards trend continues, " things could return to normal very quickly " , national police chief Michel Gaudin said. Also on Sunday, Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy said France would this week begin deporting up to 120 foreigners found guilty of involvement in the riots. The far-right National Front party, which has a zero-immigration platform, is to hold a rally in Paris on Monday to protest the disturbances. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4434576.stm Dear List Members, Dasha: Sa/Mo/Ve/Ju/Ve. Best wishes, satva Jorge Angelino Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 2925-598 Azeitão Portugal jorge.angelino tel: mobile: 210813674 963916784 Add me to your address book... Want a signature like this? -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release 11.11.2005 -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release 11.11.2005 -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release 11.11.2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Hello dear Cosmologer, You are right to understand that the lifting of the stationary movement of the nodes is not so important to explain the developments in France as the nodes will still be applying in their aspect/conjunction to natal planets in the chart. Some improvement is expected with the transit Sun coming out of debilitation. Best wishes, - " cosmologer " <cosmologer <SAMVA > Monday, November 14, 2005 6:57 PM Re: France seeks to extend crisis law Dear , Jorge and list members, Thank you for the clarification, , and for removing doubt as to how the situation should be expected to unfold in view of the transits. We are then correct to understand that the lifting of the stationary movement of the nodes is not so important to explain the developments in France. Would this be so because the nodes are still applying in their aspect to natal planets in the chart? Interestingly, the police in France are now saying the situation seems to be easing. Best regards, C SAMVA , <siha> wrote: > > Hello my dear Jorge, > > Currently there are multiple transit influences which do not show early relief in the situation. Natal Mercury and the Sun are under the exact affliction of transit Saturn (MMP) and under the close affliction of Rahu and Ketu. Transit Jupiter closely afflicts the natal Jupiter. MMP Saturn also closely afflicts transit Mars. These influences show that there is mass unrest involving chaos and violence. Some amount of control of situation appears to be forthcoming when the Sun moves to Scorpio but situation continues to be quite difficult for another about couple of months. > > Best wishes, > > > > > > - > Jorge Angelino > SAMVA > Monday, November 14, 2005 3:56 PM > France seeks to extend crisis law > > > Last Updated: Monday, 14 November 2005, 09:56 GMT > > > > > France seeks to extend crisis law > > > > The unrest has persisted for 18 days > > The French cabinet is to ask parliament to extend a state of emergency aimed at tackling unrest in impoverished suburbs by three months, a spokesman has said. > > The laws, which allow local councils to impose curfews and ban gatherings, were introduced last Wednesday for 12 days. > > Parliament is expected to approve an extension of the laws, which officials say have helped curb the rioting. There were scattered incidents overnight. > > The EU has offered France 50m euros ($59m; £34m) to help recover. > > European Commission head Jose Manuel Barroso said up to 1bn euros could be made available eventually for job creation and to help social cohesion. > > French insurers estimate that damage claims alone will reach 200m euros. > > Curfews > > The cabinet is expected to propose extending the emergency laws for three months from 21 November. > > > CARS BURNED > > > > 13 November: 284 cars > > 12 November: 374 cars > > 11 November: 502 cars > > 10 November: 463 cars > > 9 November: 394 cars > > 8 November: 617 cars > > 7 November: 1,400 cars > > The extension of the state of emergency beyond 12 days can only be authorised by a law passed by parliament. > > " To limit these exceptional measures to what is strictly necessary, the draft bill would allow them to be ended by decree before the expiration, " government spokesman Jean-Francois Cope said. > > The BBC's David Chazan in Paris says the bill is likely to pass. > > The laws allow local authorities to impose stringent security measures, including curfews and bans on public gatherings. > > About 40 towns and cities have used the laws to introduce temporary curfews for minors. Paris banned public meetings on Saturday, over fears of violent demonstrations. > > Downward trend > > Unrest has persisted among mainly Arab and African communities on rundown housing estates for 18 straight nights, since the accidental deaths last month of two teenagers who were reportedly trying to hide from police. > > Police said 284 cars were set on fire overnight on Sunday, and 115 people were arrested. > > Vandals rammed a car into a primary school in the southern city of Toulouse before setting the building on fire. > > In northern France, arsonists set fire to a sports centre in the suburb of Faches-Thumesnil and a school in the town of Halluin. > > If the downwards trend continues, " things could return to normal very quickly " , national police chief Michel Gaudin said. > > Also on Sunday, Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy said France would this week begin deporting up to 120 foreigners found guilty of involvement in the riots. > > The far-right National Front party, which has a zero- immigration platform, is to hold a rally in Paris on Monday to protest the disturbances. > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4434576.stm > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > Dasha: Sa/Mo/Ve/Ju/Ve. > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > satva > > > > > > Jorge Angelino > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 > 2925-598 Azeitão > Portugal > > jorge.angelino@n... > tel: > mobile: > 210813674 > 963916784 > > > > Add me to your address book... > Want a signature like this? > > -- ---------- > > > a.. 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Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005  Hello my dear Jorge, When the opinion is based on a set of principles it is likely to be same. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Monday, November 14, 2005 6:46 PM RE: France seeks to extend crisis law My dear Professor, Thank you for your clarification on this subject. I am of the same opinion. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of sihaSent: segunda-feira, 14 de Novembro de 2005 11:33SAMVA Subject: Re: France seeks to extend crisis law Hello my dear Jorge, Currently there are multiple transit influences which do not show early relief in the situation. Natal Mercury and the Sun are under the exact affliction of transit Saturn (MMP) and under the close affliction of Rahu and Ketu. Transit Jupiter closely afflicts the natal Jupiter. MMP Saturn also closely afflicts transit Mars. These influences show that there is mass unrest involving chaos and violence. Some amount of control of situation appears to be forthcoming when the Sun moves to Scorpio but situation continues to be quite difficult for another about couple of months. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Monday, November 14, 2005 3:56 PM France seeks to extend crisis law Last Updated: Monday, 14 November 2005, 09:56 GMT France seeks to extend crisis law The unrest has persisted for 18 days The French cabinet is to ask parliament to extend a state of emergency aimed at tackling unrest in impoverished suburbs by three months, a spokesman has said. The laws, which allow local councils to impose curfews and ban gatherings, were introduced last Wednesday for 12 days. Parliament is expected to approve an extension of the laws, which officials say have helped curb the rioting. There were scattered incidents overnight. The EU has offered France 50m euros ($59m; £34m) to help recover. European Commission head Jose Manuel Barroso said up to 1bn euros could be made available eventually for job creation and to help social cohesion. French insurers estimate that damage claims alone will reach 200m euros. Curfews The cabinet is expected to propose extending the emergency laws for three months from 21 November. CARS BURNED 13 November: 284 cars 12 November: 374 cars 11 November: 502 cars 10 November: 463 cars 9 November: 394 cars 8 November: 617 cars 7 November: 1,400 cars The extension of the state of emergency beyond 12 days can only be authorised by a law passed by parliament. "To limit these exceptional measures to what is strictly necessary, the draft bill would allow them to be ended by decree before the expiration," government spokesman Jean-Francois Cope said. The BBC's David Chazan in Paris says the bill is likely to pass. The laws allow local authorities to impose stringent security measures, including curfews and bans on public gatherings. About 40 towns and cities have used the laws to introduce temporary curfews for minors. Paris banned public meetings on Saturday, over fears of violent demonstrations. Downward trend Unrest has persisted among mainly Arab and African communities on rundown housing estates for 18 straight nights, since the accidental deaths last month of two teenagers who were reportedly trying to hide from police. Police said 284 cars were set on fire overnight on Sunday, and 115 people were arrested. Vandals rammed a car into a primary school in the southern city of Toulouse before setting the building on fire. In northern France, arsonists set fire to a sports centre in the suburb of Faches-Thumesnil and a school in the town of Halluin. If the downwards trend continues, "things could return to normal very quickly", national police chief Michel Gaudin said. Also on Sunday, Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy said France would this week begin deporting up to 120 foreigners found guilty of involvement in the riots. The far-right National Front party, which has a zero-immigration platform, is to hold a rally in Paris on Monday to protest the disturbances. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4434576.stm Dear List Members, Dasha: Sa/Mo/Ve/Ju/Ve. Best wishes, satva Jorge Angelino Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 292925-598 AzeitãoPortugal jorge.angelino tel: mobile: 210813674963916784 Add me to your address book... Want a signature like this? --Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release 11.11.2005 --Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release 11.11.2005 --Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release 11.11.2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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