Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Immigration rally in L.A. one of city's largest -- ever Half-million protesters peacefully clog L.A. streets Proposed legislation targets immigrants, employers, Samaritans Saturday, March 25, 2006; Posted: 9:19 p.m. EST (02:19 GMT) LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- They surprised the police, and maybe themselves, their T-shirts turning block after block of downtown Los Angeles streets white in a demonstration so massive that few causes in recent U.S. history have matched it. Police said more than 500,000 people marched Saturday to protest a proposed federal crackdown on illegal immigration. Wearing white as a sign of peace, and waving flags from the U.S., Mexico, Guatemala and other countries, they came to show that illegal immigrants already are part of the American fabric, and want the chance to be legal, law-abiding citizens. Police used helicopters to come up with the crowd estimate. " I've been on the force 38 years and I've never seen a rally this big, " said Cmdr. Louis Gray Jr., incident commander for the rally. In Denver, Colorado, more than 50,000 people protested downtown Saturday, according to police who had expected only a few thousand. Phoenix was similarly surprised Friday when an estimated 20,000 people gathered for one of the biggest demonstrations in city history, and more than 10,000 marched in Milwaukee on Thursday. The demonstrators oppose legislation passed by the U.S. House that would make it a felony to be in the U.S. illegally. It also would impose new penalties on employers who hire illegal immigrants, require churches to check the legal status of parishioners before helping them and erect fences along one-third of the U.S.-Mexican border. " I think it's just inhumane, " said Elger Aloy of Riverside, a 26-year-old premed student who was pushing his 8-month-old son in a stroller at the Los Angeles march. " Everybody deserves the right to a better life. " Many demonstrators said they had immigrant relatives or had crossed the border themselves. " My mom came from Mexico. She had to cross the river, and thank God she did, " said David Gonzalez, 22, who held a sign saying, " I'm in my homeland. " ' Gonzalez rejected claims by advocates of the legislation that it would help protect the nation from terrorism, noting that it would hurt Hispanics the most. " When did you ever see a Mexican blow up the World Trade Center? " he said. " Who do you think built the World Trade Center? " The Senate was to begin debating immigration proposals Tuesday. President Bush is pushing for a guest worker program that could provide temporary legal status for some of the estimated 12 million undocumented immigrants in the United States, but many of his fellow Republicans are taking a more restrictive stance. " As we debate the immigration issue, we must remember there are hardworking individuals, doing jobs that Americans will not do, who are contributing to the economic vitality of our country, " Bush said Saturday in his weekly radio address. Some immigrant-rights advocates, however, are also against Bush's proposed guest worker program, saying it would create an underclass of foreign workers. Illegal immigrants want legislation that would protect them, unify their families and address future flows of immigrants, Lisa Duran, of the group Rights for All People, said at the Denver protest. The rally at Denver's Civic Center Park, like the one in Los Angeles, was peaceful. Denver police spokesman Sonny Jackson said the crowd, mostly made up of families and older people, was respectful. Arvada resident Elsa Rodriguez, a pilot who came to Colorado in 1999 from Mexico to look for work, said she came to the Denver protest because she just wants to be considered equal. " We're like the ancestors who started this country. They came from other countries without documents, too, " said Rodriguez, 30. " They call us lazy and dirty, but we just want to come to work. If you see, we have families, too. " http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/25/immigration.rallies.ap/index.html Dasha: Ve/Sa/Su/Ju/Ju satva Jorge Angelino Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 2925-598 Azeitão Portugal jorge.angelino tel: mobile: 210813674 963916784 Add me to your address book... Want a signature like this? -- Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.1/292 - Release 24.03.2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006  Dear Jorge and Friends.... In reviewing the chart being used for USA..... it would appear that the final subperiod of the Venus main period could prove difficult for USA. This period, July 2010 to Sept. 2011, is ruled by Ketu, which is close to the Most Effective Point of the chart. So both Rahu and Ketu will be afflicting the houses they occupy and aspect. The onset of the period will see stationary Ketu in the eighth house, afflicting Sun and Jupiter. Other periods of stationary positions of the nodes may also prove difficult. David Hawthorne - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Sunday, March 26, 2006 2:00 AM US - Half-million protesters peacefully clog L.A. streets Immigration rally in L.A. one of city's largest -- ever Half-million protesters peacefully clog L.A. streets Proposed legislation targets immigrants, employers, Samaritans Saturday, March 25, 2006; Posted: 9:19 p.m. EST (02:19 GMT) LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- They surprised the police, and maybe themselves, their T-shirts turning block after block of downtown Los Angeles streets white in a demonstration so massive that few causes in recent U.S. history have matched it. Police said more than 500,000 people marched Saturday to protest a proposed federal crackdown on illegal immigration. Wearing white as a sign of peace, and waving flags from the U.S., Mexico, Guatemala and other countries, they came to show that illegal immigrants already are part of the American fabric, and want the chance to be legal, law-abiding citizens. Police used helicopters to come up with the crowd estimate. "I've been on the force 38 years and I've never seen a rally this big," said Cmdr. Louis Gray Jr., incident commander for the rally. In Denver, Colorado, more than 50,000 people protested downtown Saturday, according to police who had expected only a few thousand. Phoenix was similarly surprised Friday when an estimated 20,000 people gathered for one of the biggest demonstrations in city history, and more than 10,000 marched in Milwaukee on Thursday. The demonstrators oppose legislation passed by the U.S. House that would make it a felony to be in the U.S. illegally. It also would impose new penalties on employers who hire illegal immigrants, require churches to check the legal status of parishioners before helping them and erect fences along one-third of the U.S.-Mexican border. "I think it's just inhumane," said Elger Aloy of Riverside, a 26-year-old premed student who was pushing his 8-month-old son in a stroller at the Los Angeles march. "Everybody deserves the right to a better life." Many demonstrators said they had immigrant relatives or had crossed the border themselves. "My mom came from Mexico. She had to cross the river, and thank God she did," said David Gonzalez, 22, who held a sign saying, "I'm in my homeland."' Gonzalez rejected claims by advocates of the legislation that it would help protect the nation from terrorism, noting that it would hurt Hispanics the most. "When did you ever see a Mexican blow up the World Trade Center?" he said. "Who do you think built the World Trade Center?" The Senate was to begin debating immigration proposals Tuesday. President Bush is pushing for a guest worker program that could provide temporary legal status for some of the estimated 12 million undocumented immigrants in the United States, but many of his fellow Republicans are taking a more restrictive stance. "As we debate the immigration issue, we must remember there are hardworking individuals, doing jobs that Americans will not do, who are contributing to the economic vitality of our country," Bush said Saturday in his weekly radio address. Some immigrant-rights advocates, however, are also against Bush's proposed guest worker program, saying it would create an underclass of foreign workers. Illegal immigrants want legislation that would protect them, unify their families and address future flows of immigrants, Lisa Duran, of the group Rights for All People, said at the Denver protest. The rally at Denver's Civic Center Park, like the one in Los Angeles, was peaceful. Denver police spokesman Sonny Jackson said the crowd, mostly made up of families and older people, was respectful. Arvada resident Elsa Rodriguez, a pilot who came to Colorado in 1999 from Mexico to look for work, said she came to the Denver protest because she just wants to be considered equal. "We're like the ancestors who started this country. They came from other countries without documents, too," said Rodriguez, 30. "They call us lazy and dirty, but we just want to come to work. If you see, we have families, too." http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/25/immigration.rallies.ap/index.html Dasha: Ve/Sa/Su/Ju/Ju satva Jorge Angelino Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 292925-598 AzeitãoPortugal jorge.angelino tel: mobile: 210813674963916784 Add me to your address book... Want a signature like this? --Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.1/292 - Release 24.03.2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Dear David, I agree with you…Ketu subperiod will be especially difficult. Before that, Mercury subperiod will bring some serious fires, earthquakes and/or accidents related with dams, as it is combust, retrograde, placed in Cancer (which makes it dependent on its dispositor strength), and its house of placement and mooltrikona house are exactly afflicted by the Rahu/Ketu axis and Ketu, respectively. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of David Hawthorne domingo, 26 de Março de 2006 14:28 SAMVA Re: US - Half-million protesters peacefully clog L.A. streets Dear Jorge and Friends.... In reviewing the chart being used for USA..... it would appear that the final subperiod of the Venus main period could prove difficult for USA. This period, July 2010 to Sept. 2011, is ruled by Ketu, which is close to the Most Effective Point of the chart. So both Rahu and Ketu will be afflicting the houses they occupy and aspect. The onset of the period will see stationary Ketu in the eighth house, afflicting Sun and Jupiter. Other periods of stationary positions of the nodes may also prove difficult. David Hawthorne - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Sunday, March 26, 2006 2:00 AM US - Half-million protesters peacefully clog L.A. streets Immigration rally in L.A. one of city's largest -- ever Half-million protesters peacefully clog L.A. streets Proposed legislation targets immigrants, employers, Samaritans Saturday, March 25, 2006; Posted: 9:19 p.m. EST (02:19 GMT) LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- They surprised the police, and maybe themselves, their T-shirts turning block after block of downtown Los Angeles streets white in a demonstration so massive that few causes in recent U.S. history have matched it. Police said more than 500,000 people marched Saturday to protest a proposed federal crackdown on illegal immigration. Wearing white as a sign of peace, and waving flags from the U.S., Mexico, Guatemala and other countries, they came to show that illegal immigrants already are part of the American fabric, and want the chance to be legal, law-abiding citizens. Police used helicopters to come up with the crowd estimate. " I've been on the force 38 years and I've never seen a rally this big, " said Cmdr. Louis Gray Jr., incident commander for the rally. In Denver, Colorado, more than 50,000 people protested downtown Saturday, according to police who had expected only a few thousand. Phoenix was similarly surprised Friday when an estimated 20,000 people gathered for one of the biggest demonstrations in city history, and more than 10,000 marched in Milwaukee on Thursday. The demonstrators oppose legislation passed by the U.S. House that would make it a felony to be in the U.S. illegally. It also would impose new penalties on employers who hire illegal immigrants, require churches to check the legal status of parishioners before helping them and erect fences along one-third of the U.S.-Mexican border. " I think it's just inhumane, " said Elger Aloy of Riverside, a 26-year-old premed student who was pushing his 8-month-old son in a stroller at the Los Angeles march. " Everybody deserves the right to a better life. " Many demonstrators said they had immigrant relatives or had crossed the border themselves. " My mom came from Mexico. She had to cross the river, and thank God she did, " said David Gonzalez, 22, who held a sign saying, " I'm in my homeland. " ' Gonzalez rejected claims by advocates of the legislation that it would help protect the nation from terrorism, noting that it would hurt Hispanics the most. " When did you ever see a Mexican blow up the World Trade Center? " he said. " Who do you think built the World Trade Center? " The Senate was to begin debating immigration proposals Tuesday. President Bush is pushing for a guest worker program that could provide temporary legal status for some of the estimated 12 million undocumented immigrants in the United States, but many of his fellow Republicans are taking a more restrictive stance. " As we debate the immigration issue, we must remember there are hardworking individuals, doing jobs that Americans will not do, who are contributing to the economic vitality of our country, " Bush said Saturday in his weekly radio address. Some immigrant-rights advocates, however, are also against Bush's proposed guest worker program, saying it would create an underclass of foreign workers. Illegal immigrants want legislation that would protect them, unify their families and address future flows of immigrants, Lisa Duran, of the group Rights for All People, said at the Denver protest. The rally at Denver's Civic Center Park, like the one in Los Angeles, was peaceful. Denver police spokesman Sonny Jackson said the crowd, mostly made up of families and older people, was respectful. Arvada resident Elsa Rodriguez, a pilot who came to Colorado in 1999 from Mexico to look for work, said she came to the Denver protest because she just wants to be considered equal. " We're like the ancestors who started this country. They came from other countries without documents, too, " said Rodriguez, 30. " They call us lazy and dirty, but we just want to come to work. If you see, we have families, too. " http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/25/immigration.rallies.ap/index.html Dasha: Ve/Sa/Su/Ju/Ju satva Jorge Angelino Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 2925-598 Azeitão Portugal jorge.angelino tel: mobile: 210813674 963916784 Add me to your address book... 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