U.S. States' Admissions: Time-Moments for 13 & 14

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RHODE ISLAND, the 13th: June 14, 1790 @ XX:YY:ZZ hrs, yet ever to be rectified for Washington's signature that

day. The May 29, 1790 event was the ratification in Providence, R.I. VERMONT, the

14th: March 4, 1791 @ 00:00:01 hrs This one was signed by President Washington on March 2nd, but with the prior understanding that the concurring Congressional legislation, the statute, designated March 4th as the start date. The Congressional "Season" was closed from the evening of March 3rd until re-opening on October 24, 1791. Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: Dear John, Thanks for your email. Corrected chart will follow… So far, it seems that the admission of

the new states after the initial 13, and before March 19, 1918, occurred at noon time. Best wishes, Jorge  SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of JohnTWBquinta-feira, 27 de Abril de 2006 02:55samva Subject: ILLINOIS ... rectification Well Done Hi Jorge I just wish to point out that the fine work of your rectification for 17:58:34 hrs is a much needed correction of Marc Penfield's rectified time of

09:08:00 hrs CST, published in his book in 1984.[see source below] The legislation for the admission of the State of Illinois to the U.S.Federal Union is reported in the Journals of the House and Senate, as follows: Senate approved December 1st; House of Representatives approved December 2nd; House Committee on Enrolled Bills reported "first thing" on the morning of December 4th that the President signed the bill on the previous day, the 3rd. How Penfield is wrong: If Marc Penfield were correct, ie. 09:08 CST = 10:08 in Washington D.C., then the President's approval would have been reported, as a matter of long established practice, to the House on the afternoon of the same day of the supposedly morning signature, the 3rd. Since it was reported only on the following morning, the 4th, evidently the Bill was signed earliest in the very late afternoon of the 3rd; certainly not signed in the morning of the 3rd. Penfield is wrong; Angelino right. P.S. However "co-ordinates-difference-insignificant", please correct your record for the State of Illinois' capital city: in that early era "Kaskaskia", not yet "Springfield", was the State's capital. Jorge's rectified chart of: ILLINOIS Dec 3, 1818Â 17:58:34 hrs +00:00 GMT Springfield, IL:USAÂ Longitude: 89W38 Latitude: 39N48 Lahiri Ayanamsha: 21:19 Current Period: ME/JU/RA JtwB's File entry on Admittance: (21) December 3, 1818: ILLINOIS, Kaskaskia; Enabling Act of April 18, 1818 Marc Penfield's Horoscopes of the Western Hemisphere, San Diego, 1984: Illinois3 Dec 1818Kaskaskia89w55 37n559:08 am CST Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. --Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.0/325 - Release 26.04.2006 --Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.0/325 - Release 26.04.2006

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Dear John,

 

Thank you for your email.

 

I will look at it carefully.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of JohnTWB

quinta-feira, 27 de Abril de

2006 04:28

SAMVA

U.S. States'

Admissions: Time-Moments for " 13 " & " 14 "

 

 

RHODE ISLAND, the

13th:

 

 

 

 

 

 

June 14, 1790 @ XX:YY:ZZ

hrs, yet ever to be rectified for Washington's signature that

day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The May 29, 1790 event

was the ratification in Providence, R.I.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

VERMONT, the

14th:

 

 

 

 

 

 

March 4, 1791 @ 00:00:01

hrs

 

 

 

 

 

This

one was signed by President Washington on March 2nd, but with the

prior understanding that the concurring Congressional legislation, the

statute, designated March 4th as the start date. The

Congressional " Season " was closed from the evening of March 3rd until

re-opening on October 24, 1791.

 

 

Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino

wrote:

 

 

 

Dear

John,

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

for your email. Corrected chart will follow…

 

 

 

 

 

So far,

it seems that the admission of the new states after the initial 13, and before

March 19, 1918, occurred at noon time.

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

Â

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of JohnTWB

quinta-feira, 27 de Abril de

2006 02:55

samva

ILLINOIS ...

rectification Well Done

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just wish to point out

that the fine work of your rectification for 17:58:34 hrs is a much needed

correction of Marc Penfield's rectified time of 09:08:00 hrs CST, published

in his book in 1984.[see source below]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The legislation for the

admission of the State of Illinois to the U.S.Federal Union is reported in the

Journals of the House and Senate, as follows: Senate approved December

1st; House of Representatives approved December 2nd; House Committee on

Enrolled Bills reported " first thing " on the morning of December 4th

that the President signed the bill on the previous day, the 3rd.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How Penfield is wrong: If

Marc Penfield were correct, ie. 09:08 CST = 10:08 in Washington D.C., then the

President's approval would have been reported, as a matter of long established

practice, to the House on the afternoon of the same day of the supposedly

morning signature, the 3rd. Since it was reported only on the following

morning, the 4th, evidently the Bill was signed earliest in the very late

afternoon of the 3rd; certainly not signed in the morning of the 3rd. Penfield

is wrong; Angelino right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P.S. However

" co-ordinates-difference-insignificant " , please correct your record

for the State of Illinois' capital city: in that early era

" Kaskaskia " , not yet " Springfield " , was the State's

capital.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge's rectified chart

of:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ILLINOIS

 

 

 

 

Dec 3, 1818Â

17:58:34 hrs +00:00 GMT

 

 

 

 

Springfield, IL:USAÂ

Longitude: 89W38 Latitude: 39N48

 

 

 

 

Lahiri Ayanamsha: 21:19

Current Period: ME/JU/RA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

JtwB's File entry on Admittance:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(21) December 3, 1818: ILLINOIS, Kaskaskia; Enabling Act of April

18, 1818

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Marc Penfield's

Horoscopes of the Western Hemisphere, San Diego, 1984:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Illinois

3 Dec 1818

Kaskaskia

89w55 37n55

9:08 am CST

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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OOPS!!!!! Mea Culpa The Rhode Island Constitutional Convention was located in NEWPORT, not Providence (as indicated in my previous post). Great work, Jorge Cheers, John Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: Dear John, Thank you for your email. I will look at it carefully. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of JohnTWBquinta-feira, 27 de Abril de 2006 04:28SAMVA Subject: U.S. States' Admissions: Time-Moments for "13" & "14" RHODE ISLAND, the 13th: June 14, 1790 @ XX:YY:ZZ hrs, yet ever to be rectified for Washington's signature that

day. The May 29, 1790 event was the ratification in Providence, R.I. VERMONT, the 14th: March 4, 1791 @ 00:00:01 hrs This one was signed by President Washington on March 2nd, but with the prior understanding that the concurring Congressional legislation, the statute, designated March 4th as the start date. The Congressional "Season" was closed from the evening of March 3rd until re-opening on October 24, 1791. Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: Dear John, Thanks for your email. Corrected chart will follow… So far, it seems that the admission of the new states after the initial 13, and before March 19, 1918, occurred at noon time. Best wishes, Jorge  SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of JohnTWBquinta-feira, 27 de Abril de 2006 02:55samva Subject: ILLINOIS ... rectification Well Done Hi Jorge I just wish to point out that the fine work of your rectification for 17:58:34 hrs is a much needed correction of Marc Penfield's rectified time of 09:08:00 hrs CST, published in his book in 1984.[see source below] The legislation for the admission of the State of Illinois to the U.S.Federal Union is reported in the Journals of the House and Senate, as follows: Senate approved December 1st;

House of Representatives approved December 2nd; House Committee on Enrolled Bills reported "first thing" on the morning of December 4th that the President signed the bill on the previous day, the 3rd. How Penfield is wrong: If Marc Penfield were correct, ie. 09:08 CST = 10:08 in Washington D.C., then the President's approval would have been reported, as a matter of long established practice, to the House on the afternoon of the same day of the supposedly morning signature, the 3rd. Since it was reported only on the following morning, the 4th, evidently the Bill was signed earliest in the

very late afternoon of the 3rd; certainly not signed in the morning of the 3rd. Penfield is wrong; Angelino right. P.S. However "co-ordinates-difference-insignificant", please correct your record for the State of Illinois' capital city: in that early era "Kaskaskia", not yet "Springfield", was the State's capital. Jorge's rectified chart of: ILLINOIS Dec 3, 1818Â 17:58:34 hrs +00:00 GMT Springfield, IL:USAÂ Longitude: 89W38 Latitude: 39N48 Lahiri Ayanamsha: 21:19 Current Period: ME/JU/RA JtwB's File entry on Admittance: (21) December 3, 1818: ILLINOIS, Kaskaskia; Enabling Act of April 18, 1818 Marc Penfield's Horoscopes of the Western Hemisphere, San Diego, 1984: Illinois3 Dec 1818Kaskaskia89w55 37n559:08 am CST Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. --Version: 7.1.385 / Virus

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