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Dear List Members

 

Following is practically the only literature I have cited regarding

KP Astrology. It was written by Professor Krishnamurti's son.

 

The hierarchy of rulership is explained and this much I understand.

 

In the final paragraph I get confused regarding the use of subs.

 

If Mars is in the 6th house in nakshatra Ashlesha and Mercury is in

the eigth house then Mars is first rate significator for the eigth

house. To determine how effective Mars is in the eigth house do I

check the subs of Mars or Mercury?

 

" According to KP, owners or occupants of a house do not offer the

result by ownership or occupation, but they offer the results of the

lord of the constellation as signified by occupation or ownership of

the constellation lord (star lord). Suppose for example, the planet

Mars is in the 8th house for a Pisces born Ascendant. Here Mars is

owner of 2nd Aries and 9th Scorpio and occupies Libra where 8th cusp

falls. Suppose Mars is in the star of Jupiter (lord of 1 and 10) and

Jupiter is in 2nd house Aries. Here though Mars is owner of 2 and 9

and is placed in 8th house Mars himself will not be giving 2nd and

9th and 8th house results. On the other hand, Mars being placed in

the constellation of Jupiter will offer the results of 2nd house

(because Mars star lord Jupiter occupies the 2nd). Again, Mars will

give the result of lagna and 10th house as Jupiter is lord of Lagna

and 10th house. In other words, Mars. the tenant planet in a Jupiter

star will act as agent of Jupiter for 2nd, Lagna and 10th house

results. Here Mars though occupying 8th house will not signify 8th

house matters. So here Mars in Jupiter constellation or star will be

a significator for houses 1, 10 and 2 and not for the houses 2, 8 and

9 to which Mars is lord and occupant. If Mars signifies the matter of

houses 1, 10 and 2, by virtue of being placed in a Jupiter ruled

star, then which planet will offer the results of Mars for house

matters 2, 8 and 9? It will be that planet or planets tenanting one

of the three stars of Mars (Mriga, Chitra, Dhanista).

 

Suppose there are none in the stars of Mars mentioned above. Then

Mars itself will offer the results of houses 2, 8 and 9 in addition

to house results of 1, 2, and 10. In this state (i.e. no planet

tenanting Mars stars), Mars is said to acquire " Positional Strength "

for the house occupied by it (8th) and also houses 2 and 9 owned by

it, provided houses 2 and 9 are untenanted. Again when the houses

owned by a planet are occupied by other planets, the owner planet

becomes a very weak significator for the house owned and the occupant

planet becomes stronger than the owner. The occupant is always

stronger than the owner and occupation is always stronger than

ownership.

 

In KP, that planet which is placed in any one of the 3 stars of the

occupant is the strongest significator known as first rate

significator. Suppose no planet tenants any one of the three stars of

the occupant of a house. Then the occupant himself becomes the

strongest significator for the house occupied but this is next in

strength only to first rate significator. Mars for example, in the

above cited case suppose there is no occupant at all in a house which

is vacant. Then the planet in the star of the lord of the house will

be significator for the vacant house. Suppose there is no planet at

all in the stars of the Lord of the house, then the lord of the house

himself will become the significator provided the houses owned by him

are not occupied by any other planet. This is how significators are

fixed and decided in Krishnamurti Padhati.

 

For the same matter there may be many significator planets and the

same planet may be signifying several matters. So, before proceeding

to commence judgment of a horoscope, we must draw up a significator

table, based upon the above considerations. Again in KP, the sub lord

exclusively decides the success or failure of a matter. If the sub

lord of the tenanting planet is in the constellation of a planet

signifying favorable houses for the matter under consideration, the

tenanting planet offers the results of this constellation lord as

decided by the sublord when the period of the tenant planet runs or

whenever any planet transits the asterism of the tenanting planet. "