Regarding A.Sivasamy Vaideeswaran Koil

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

 

I am a new joinee to this group. I have great interest in

spirituality, astrology and recently naadi astrology. Recently I

visited to A.Sivasamy whom everybody told genuine. Even I was very

particular about the nadi reader. I asked for " ganeshan " who is

Sivasamy's brother. They told Ganeshan is not available. I insisted

them. They told next day only you may (or may not) see him. Still I

waited and saw in the next day.

 

He has asked few questions as usual. Then he found my nadi after 1 to

2 Hrs. I was stunned by the accuracy and I saw my nadi first page

which contained my name, family members name, my horoscope details,

etc., Till this point, I beleive they are able to give correct.

 

After that, I was told to take break for 1.5 Hrs since it will take

time to transulate. Since I had great faith I went out and came back

after 2 Hrs. Then reading went on.

 

During the finding out process of my nadi, I told some extra things

since I believed 100% and wanted to find out the correct nadi. I was

surprised to find out that what ever I told came in the poems! (like

my mother was sugar patient, my lucky no is: 7) No other info I was

not able to find out which is outside.

 

The main problem is: when I returned to read my nadi after 2 Hrs, I

found that, the nadi readers were busy in writing poems in clients

reading book. They did not use nadi at all! since they got rasi

chart, everybody was using it like a bit paper (in exams, we used to

copy:-) ) and transulating it. I was shocked. I don't know how they

have done my reading. It is not guaranteed that it might have come

from nadi but rasi chart! My predictions are yet to come true (sep

this year), I am unable to verify it. But after seeing mischief done

for others, how can I believe that they have read correctly for me?

 

It is important that you have to get correct reader and also

important that you have to see not only your first page of the nadi

but also all the poems which are written and taped for you. Once you

do that, I think it should be correct. I missed it. But plese you

don't.

 

If I find any one genuine, I will intimate to this group.

 

Thanks,

Dhanapal

[Guest guest]

Dear Dhanapal,

 

Thank you for your post, it is very helpful. I, too, have mixed

feelings about the reader. A few yrs ago, I went there with a friend

since he was highly recommended by many people. I got my general

Kandam and Past life the first time I went there..my friend got only

the General Kandam. From what i have researched from various people

and from personal intuition, I think that the general kandams were

genuine because there were many details in there which they could

not have found out through their questioning. And i did not give

them the time of my birth at all, and still they gave me my rasi

chart which had the correct lagna, and the planets were not 100%

accurate but very very close. Also, couple of my friends say that

their predictions are 90% accurate so far. My personal predictions

have also come out ok. But i think the past life kandam was made up.

And just recently, about a few weeks back i phoned them and got 4

more detail kandams, which I think are not very genuine and little

vague compared to my general.

So i have come to the conclusion that the readings might not be 100%

genuine, and they may be mixing things up. That is why some people

get very accurate readings and others get vague ones. I think it has

become very business-like. it seems the real authentic ones are not

well-known and there is some Bhrigu reader in Hoshiarpur who is very

reputed. i guess everything is destined anyway, even the incorrect

readings.

 

Regards

 

 

, " tdhanapal_logic "

<tdhanapal_logic wrote:

>

>

> Hi all,

>

> I am a new joinee to this group. I have great interest in

> spirituality, astrology and recently naadi astrology. Recently I

> visited to A.Sivasamy whom everybody told genuine. Even I was very

> particular about the nadi reader. I asked for " ganeshan " who is

> Sivasamy's brother. They told Ganeshan is not available. I

insisted

> them. They told next day only you may (or may not) see him. Still

I

> waited and saw in the next day.

>

> He has asked few questions as usual. Then he found my nadi after 1

to

> 2 Hrs. I was stunned by the accuracy and I saw my nadi first page

> which contained my name, family members name, my horoscope

details,

> etc., Till this point, I beleive they are able to give correct.

>

> After that, I was told to take break for 1.5 Hrs since it will

take

> time to transulate. Since I had great faith I went out and came

back

> after 2 Hrs. Then reading went on.

>

> During the finding out process of my nadi, I told some extra

things

> since I believed 100% and wanted to find out the correct nadi. I

was

> surprised to find out that what ever I told came in the poems!

(like

> my mother was sugar patient, my lucky no is: 7) No other info I

was

> not able to find out which is outside.

>

> The main problem is: when I returned to read my nadi after 2 Hrs,

I

> found that, the nadi readers were busy in writing poems in clients

> reading book. They did not use nadi at all! since they got rasi

> chart, everybody was using it like a bit paper (in exams, we used

to

> copy:-) ) and transulating it. I was shocked. I don't know how

they

> have done my reading. It is not guaranteed that it might have come

> from nadi but rasi chart! My predictions are yet to come true (sep

> this year), I am unable to verify it. But after seeing mischief

done

> for others, how can I believe that they have read correctly for me?

>

> It is important that you have to get correct reader and also

> important that you have to see not only your first page of the

nadi

> but also all the poems which are written and taped for you. Once

you

> do that, I think it should be correct. I missed it. But plese you

> don't.

>

> If I find any one genuine, I will intimate to this group.

>

> Thanks,

> Dhanapal

>

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,Regarding the genuinity of kandams in various Centers and charges asked for in 13 & 14 Chapters, many persons including me have mixed experiences.To clear doubts, I have personally checked the leaves of 13 & 14 chapters, while I was in Chennai in 1994 to 1996.

In that I found that there is a clear cut mention about the amounts to be charged, in one cases Rs 2260/- were asked to pay that is to say 15,108 to be multiplied by 15 paise (Pananai - Why '15' only ? could not be explained) in some cases the amount as per the wish of the seeker was mentioned , in some cases the amount of expenses of seekers' Shanti deeksha were to be incured by the Naadi center. To substanciate this point, in one of the opern meetings of the Astrological Seminars in Pune, I invited one such person from named Shri. Vidhyadhar Shenolikar (whose email adderss is in our group)

More of information and some more doubts are clarified in my book - "Naadi Predictions A Mind Boggling Miracle."Interested persons can send email separately to me for further details.

Wg Cdr Shashikant Oak,Pune.

[Guest guest]

Thanks bluerutas for your information. The funniest part there was: Sivasamy himself was writing in the clients' notebook based on rasi chart! What else can we say? One thing is for sure. If somebody has somuch population, then it will be nothing but commericial. Finding genuine ones in spirituality, astrology and nadi are the difficult ones in life! I was lucky to findout the first one and searching others!. Let's see. After reading all the 250+ messages in this group, I found that no body was able to give the correct address of a genuine nadi reader! Or I am not finding, I don't know. I am trying with some sources. If I found them really genuine after personally analysing, I will inform to this group. Bluerutas, could you give the address information of Bhirugu reader in Hoshirapur you mentioned? Best regards, Dhanapal bluerutas

<highpriezt wrote: Dear Dhanapal,Thank you for your post, it is very helpful. I, too, have mixed feelings about the reader. A few yrs ago, I went there with a friend since he was highly recommended by many people. I got my general Kandam and Past life the first time I went there..my friend got only the General Kandam. From what i have researched from various people and from personal intuition, I think that the general kandams were genuine because there were many details in there which they could not have found out through their questioning. And i did not give them the time of my birth at all, and still they gave me my rasi chart which had the correct lagna, and the planets were not 100% accurate but very very close. Also, couple of my friends say that their predictions are 90% accurate so

far. My personal predictions have also come out ok. But i think the past life kandam was made up. And just recently, about a few weeks back i phoned them and got 4 more detail kandams, which I think are not very genuine and little vague compared to my general.So i have come to the conclusion that the readings might not be 100% genuine, and they may be mixing things up. That is why some people get very accurate readings and others get vague ones. I think it has become very business-like. it seems the real authentic ones are not well-known and there is some Bhrigu reader in Hoshiarpur who is very reputed. i guess everything is destined anyway, even the incorrect readings.Regards , "tdhanapal_logic" <tdhanapal_logic wrote:>> > Hi all,> > I am a new joinee to this group. I have great interest in > spirituality,

astrology and recently naadi astrology. Recently I > visited to A.Sivasamy whom everybody told genuine. Even I was very > particular about the nadi reader. I asked for "ganeshan" who is > Sivasamy's brother. They told Ganeshan is not available. I insisted > them. They told next day only you may (or may not) see him. Still I > waited and saw in the next day.> > He has asked few questions as usual. Then he found my nadi after 1 to > 2 Hrs. I was stunned by the accuracy and I saw my nadi first page > which contained my name, family members name, my horoscope details, > etc., Till this point, I beleive they are able to give correct.> > After that, I was told to take break for 1.5 Hrs since it will take > time to transulate. Since I had great faith I went out and came back > after 2 Hrs. Then reading went on.> > During the finding out process

of my nadi, I told some extra things > since I believed 100% and wanted to find out the correct nadi. I was > surprised to find out that what ever I told came in the poems! (like > my mother was sugar patient, my lucky no is: 7) No other info I was > not able to find out which is outside.> > The main problem is: when I returned to read my nadi after 2 Hrs, I > found that, the nadi readers were busy in writing poems in clients > reading book. They did not use nadi at all! since they got rasi > chart, everybody was using it like a bit paper (in exams, we used to > copy:-) ) and transulating it. I was shocked. I don't know how they > have done my reading. It is not guaranteed that it might have come > from nadi but rasi chart! My predictions are yet to come true (sep > this year), I am unable to verify it. But after seeing mischief done > for

others, how can I believe that they have read correctly for me?> > It is important that you have to get correct reader and also > important that you have to see not only your first page of the nadi > but also all the poems which are written and taped for you. Once you > do that, I think it should be correct. I missed it. But plese you > don't.> > If I find any one genuine, I will intimate to this group.> > Thanks,> Dhanapal>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Dhanapal,

 

Yes, it seems there are no indications of genuine readers here other

than some posts by Mr. Sashi Oak.

 

This is the info on the web abt the lady in Hoshiarpur:

Bhrigu Reader in Hoshiarpur

There is a woman named Sneha Amritananda who does Bhrigu readings in

Hoshiarpur. Hoshiarpur is located about 100km east of Amritsar in

the Punjab. Her phone number is 01882-22122. Anyone interested in

seeing her must call for an appointment. It is also suggested that

you call her and give her your birth information, so that she can

draw up a chart before seeing you.

 

Bhrigu Muni is the authority on Vedic astrology. It is said that

many years ago he wrote down the destiny of many living entities. A

Bhrigu reading is when an experienced Bhrigu reader tells you what

was written. Sneha Amritananda is said to have a book written by

Bhrigu Muni himself, which includes the destiny of every living

entity. She has a small Bhrigu temple in her home.

 

http://www.vegetarian-restaurants.net/India-

Guide/IndianStates/Punjab-Haryana/Punjab-Haryana.htm

 

Regards

 

, Dhanapal T

<tdhanapal_logic wrote:

>

>

> Thanks bluerutas for your information. The funniest part there

was: Sivasamy himself was writing in the clients' notebook based on

rasi chart! What else can we say? One thing is for sure. If somebody

has somuch population, then it will be nothing but commericial.

Finding genuine ones in spirituality, astrology and nadi are the

difficult ones in life! I was lucky to findout the first one and

searching others!. Let's see.

>

> After reading all the 250+ messages in this group, I found that

no body was able to give the correct address of a genuine nadi

reader! Or I am not finding, I don't know. I am trying with some

sources. If I found them really genuine after personally analysing,

I will inform to this group.

>

> Bluerutas, could you give the address information of Bhirugu

reader in Hoshirapur you mentioned?

>

> Best regards,

> Dhanapal

>

> bluerutas <highpriezt wrote:

> Dear Dhanapal,

>

> Thank you for your post, it is very helpful. I, too, have mixed

> feelings about the reader. A few yrs ago, I went there with a

friend

> since he was highly recommended by many people. I got my general

> Kandam and Past life the first time I went there..my friend got

only

> the General Kandam. From what i have researched from various

people

> and from personal intuition, I think that the general kandams were

> genuine because there were many details in there which they could

> not have found out through their questioning. And i did not give

> them the time of my birth at all, and still they gave me my rasi

> chart which had the correct lagna, and the planets were not 100%

> accurate but very very close. Also, couple of my friends say that

> their predictions are 90% accurate so far. My personal predictions

> have also come out ok. But i think the past life kandam was made

up.

> And just recently, about a few weeks back i phoned them and got 4

> more detail kandams, which I think are not very genuine and little

> vague compared to my general.

> So i have come to the conclusion that the readings might not be

100%

> genuine, and they may be mixing things up. That is why some people

> get very accurate readings and others get vague ones. I think it

has

> become very business-like. it seems the real authentic ones are

not

> well-known and there is some Bhrigu reader in Hoshiarpur who is

very

> reputed. i guess everything is destined anyway, even the incorrect

> readings.

>

> Regards

>

>

> , " tdhanapal_logic "

> <tdhanapal_logic@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I am a new joinee to this group. I have great interest in

> > spirituality, astrology and recently naadi astrology. Recently I

> > visited to A.Sivasamy whom everybody told genuine. Even I was

very

> > particular about the nadi reader. I asked for " ganeshan " who is

> > Sivasamy's brother. They told Ganeshan is not available. I

> insisted

> > them. They told next day only you may (or may not) see him.

Still

> I

> > waited and saw in the next day.

> >

> > He has asked few questions as usual. Then he found my nadi after

1

> to

> > 2 Hrs. I was stunned by the accuracy and I saw my nadi first

page

> > which contained my name, family members name, my horoscope

> details,

> > etc., Till this point, I beleive they are able to give correct.

> >

> > After that, I was told to take break for 1.5 Hrs since it will

> take

> > time to transulate. Since I had great faith I went out and came

> back

> > after 2 Hrs. Then reading went on.

> >

> > During the finding out process of my nadi, I told some extra

> things

> > since I believed 100% and wanted to find out the correct nadi. I

> was

> > surprised to find out that what ever I told came in the poems!

> (like

> > my mother was sugar patient, my lucky no is: 7) No other info I

> was

> > not able to find out which is outside.

> >

> > The main problem is: when I returned to read my nadi after 2

Hrs,

> I

> > found that, the nadi readers were busy in writing poems in

clients

> > reading book. They did not use nadi at all! since they got rasi

> > chart, everybody was using it like a bit paper (in exams, we

used

> to

> > copy:-) ) and transulating it. I was shocked. I don't know how

> they

> > have done my reading. It is not guaranteed that it might have

come

> > from nadi but rasi chart! My predictions are yet to come true

(sep

> > this year), I am unable to verify it. But after seeing mischief

> done

> > for others, how can I believe that they have read correctly for

me?

> >

> > It is important that you have to get correct reader and also

> > important that you have to see not only your first page of the

> nadi

> > but also all the poems which are written and taped for you. Once

> you

> > do that, I think it should be correct. I missed it. But plese

you

> > don't.

> >

> > If I find any one genuine, I will intimate to this group.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Dhanapal

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I ve seen naadi in a few places and have spoken to a few readers.

what i found is that naadi has a mix of

- leaves of individuals based on their name/parents name etc., these

re are individual leaves.

- leaves containing naadi astro. rules like normal astro. rules. For

example, a person with sun+moon in mesha raasi with a particular

raegai will have a partcular type of name. Using these leaves

predictions can be derived for many many more people.

 

According to an article in the Hindu a year back, Brigu naadi has

individual leaves for about 5 lakh people and leaves containing

rules using which predictions for abotu50 lakh people can

be " derived " by the readers( they act like astrologers in this case).

These are of course,spread across the various readers.

 

Most of the readings I think belong to the second category and

therefore not very accurate.

 

One more thing everyone notices is that no reader is willing to allow

us to photograph the leaves or give us the leaf.

 

But, one good thing of Sivasamy is that he ADMITS in a circular given

to clients that as per their experience Naadi is only 80% accurate.

 

 

 

, " bluerutas " <highpriezt

wrote:

>

> Hi Dhanapal,

>

> Yes, it seems there are no indications of genuine readers here

other

> than some posts by Mr. Sashi Oak.

>

> This is the info on the web abt the lady in Hoshiarpur:

> Bhrigu Reader in Hoshiarpur

> There is a woman named Sneha Amritananda who does Bhrigu readings

in

> Hoshiarpur. Hoshiarpur is located about 100km east of Amritsar in

> the Punjab. Her phone number is 01882-22122. Anyone interested in

> seeing her must call for an appointment. It is also suggested that

> you call her and give her your birth information, so that she can

> draw up a chart before seeing you.

>

> Bhrigu Muni is the authority on Vedic astrology. It is said that

> many years ago he wrote down the destiny of many living entities. A

> Bhrigu reading is when an experienced Bhrigu reader tells you what

> was written. Sneha Amritananda is said to have a book written by

> Bhrigu Muni himself, which includes the destiny of every living

> entity. She has a small Bhrigu temple in her home.

>

> http://www.vegetarian-restaurants.net/India-

> Guide/IndianStates/Punjab-Haryana/Punjab-Haryana.htm

>

> Regards

>

> , Dhanapal T

> <tdhanapal_logic@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Thanks bluerutas for your information. The funniest part there

> was: Sivasamy himself was writing in the clients' notebook based on

> rasi chart! What else can we say? One thing is for sure. If

somebody

> has somuch population, then it will be nothing but commericial.

> Finding genuine ones in spirituality, astrology and nadi are the

> difficult ones in life! I was lucky to findout the first one and

> searching others!. Let's see.

> >

> > After reading all the 250+ messages in this group, I found that

> no body was able to give the correct address of a genuine nadi

> reader! Or I am not finding, I don't know. I am trying with some

> sources. If I found them really genuine after personally analysing,

> I will inform to this group.

> >

> > Bluerutas, could you give the address information of Bhirugu

> reader in Hoshirapur you mentioned?

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Dhanapal

> >

> > bluerutas <highpriezt@> wrote:

> > Dear Dhanapal,

> >

> > Thank you for your post, it is very helpful. I, too, have mixed

> > feelings about the reader. A few yrs ago, I went there with a

> friend

> > since he was highly recommended by many people. I got my general

> > Kandam and Past life the first time I went there..my friend got

> only

> > the General Kandam. From what i have researched from various

> people

> > and from personal intuition, I think that the general kandams

were

> > genuine because there were many details in there which they could

> > not have found out through their questioning. And i did not give

> > them the time of my birth at all, and still they gave me my rasi

> > chart which had the correct lagna, and the planets were not 100%

> > accurate but very very close. Also, couple of my friends say that

> > their predictions are 90% accurate so far. My personal

predictions

> > have also come out ok. But i think the past life kandam was made

> up.

> > And just recently, about a few weeks back i phoned them and got 4

> > more detail kandams, which I think are not very genuine and

little

> > vague compared to my general.

> > So i have come to the conclusion that the readings might not be

> 100%

> > genuine, and they may be mixing things up. That is why some

people

> > get very accurate readings and others get vague ones. I think it

> has

> > become very business-like. it seems the real authentic ones are

> not

> > well-known and there is some Bhrigu reader in Hoshiarpur who is

> very

> > reputed. i guess everything is destined anyway, even the

incorrect

> > readings.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> > , " tdhanapal_logic "

> > <tdhanapal_logic@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > I am a new joinee to this group. I have great interest in

> > > spirituality, astrology and recently naadi astrology. Recently

I

> > > visited to A.Sivasamy whom everybody told genuine. Even I was

> very

> > > particular about the nadi reader. I asked for " ganeshan " who is

> > > Sivasamy's brother. They told Ganeshan is not available. I

> > insisted

> > > them. They told next day only you may (or may not) see him.

> Still

> > I

> > > waited and saw in the next day.

> > >

> > > He has asked few questions as usual. Then he found my nadi

after

> 1

> > to

> > > 2 Hrs. I was stunned by the accuracy and I saw my nadi first

> page

> > > which contained my name, family members name, my horoscope

> > details,

> > > etc., Till this point, I beleive they are able to give correct.

> > >

> > > After that, I was told to take break for 1.5 Hrs since it will

> > take

> > > time to transulate. Since I had great faith I went out and came

> > back

> > > after 2 Hrs. Then reading went on.

> > >

> > > During the finding out process of my nadi, I told some extra

> > things

> > > since I believed 100% and wanted to find out the correct nadi.

I

> > was

> > > surprised to find out that what ever I told came in the poems!

> > (like

> > > my mother was sugar patient, my lucky no is: 7) No other info I

> > was

> > > not able to find out which is outside.

> > >

> > > The main problem is: when I returned to read my nadi after 2

> Hrs,

> > I

> > > found that, the nadi readers were busy in writing poems in

> clients

> > > reading book. They did not use nadi at all! since they got rasi

> > > chart, everybody was using it like a bit paper (in exams, we

> used

> > to

> > > copy:-) ) and transulating it. I was shocked. I don't know how

> > they

> > > have done my reading. It is not guaranteed that it might have

> come

> > > from nadi but rasi chart! My predictions are yet to come true

> (sep

> > > this year), I am unable to verify it. But after seeing mischief

> > done

> > > for others, how can I believe that they have read correctly for

> me?

> > >

> > > It is important that you have to get correct reader and also

> > > important that you have to see not only your first page of the

> > nadi

> > > but also all the poems which are written and taped for you.

Once

> > you

> > > do that, I think it should be correct. I missed it. But plese

> you

> > > don't.

> > >

> > > If I find any one genuine, I will intimate to this group.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Dhanapal

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >