Guest guest Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 dear members . i am a silent member of this forum. i am watching a quite a number of posts. i want to share our family experiance with this forum. 1)during 1993 when i was studying B.E at madurai , there was a lot of problems in our family. first one was my elder sisters health problem.she was suffering from some tumour which was occuring in her vagina every 3 months and she took treatement including surgery every four months to remove it for about four years or some time it breaks itself.reason doctors not able to find.at the time i was studying astrology under the great astrolger sri p.s iyer in madurai. he advised me to consult a agasthiar nadi reader at madurai who just started his center in madurai.i went there and sri agasthair told to do some pariharaams. my sister sincerley finished everything and the same month she was scrunntised this time by a male doctor and her biopsy was sent to some research center and after that some new drugs were suggsted and after that that tumor stopped occuring.we sincerly believes her recovery was due to sri Agasthiars advice 2)during 1995 my brothers marriage was stopped due to some family problems . i again went to the same center and got the readings and even though brother was not interested , he finished all his pariharams and donating some money[550] according to the discriptions given by the nadi were(a) bride wiil be from a vaishnavite family , it was odd because we are saivites, indeed my sister in law is a vaaishnavite family (b)among brides parents only one will be active, it became true as brides father was physically inactive and he passed away in one year. © marriage happened exactly the month specified. in 1995 3) my own personal readings i tried to do pariharams and failed twice to complete.first time i was told to go to three muruga temples in hills anad after the day i returned from palani in june 1995, my father wsa diognaised with cancer. second time at 1996 at thiruparangundram temple during parihara puja the cocaunut as broken to pices, a bad omen and puja was stopped. in 2000 after my marriage i tried again but i made a mistake of not giving some dress materials and money[rs.750] to nadi reader as directed in nadi and failed to experiance the result indicated by nadi.between 2000 and 2007 i suffered all kind of sufferings setbacks in my life including a failed spine surgry which all most made me immobile.in march 2007 when a a visit to trichy i met a agasthiar nadi reader by chance and he wanted to read for me which i first refused then relutanaly because of wifes insistance i accepted. sri agasthiar told when he gave advice in 1994 and why it was a failure and told me to do some pariharama within two hours which i did and from then he adviced to get ashi khandam[blessing]every month full moon day. from that time my life became spritual and he is giving me advice which temple i have to visit and when to do anna dhana .in 2008 i was fortunate to meet sri hanumanthdhasan at chennai due to blessings of sri agasthiar and gave me unbeleivable things of my family history which only elders knew.i was told that all parihrams failed because my grandmother had 9 abrotions and she was instrumental of spliting a huasband and wife using mantra proyoga and the mantras prononced by priest during parihara was not proper , he adviced me to erect a naga devata at kanchipuram which i finished now. now all the predictions by nadi is happeneing , my wife [doctor] got promotion and i am enjoying a best finacial and spritual life in my life and iam fortunate to visit sevearal temples every month and i was able to to do a quite number of charities to temples [ i never did earlier] thank to my guru sri agasthiar. with all this i want to stress that the pariharam helped my brother and my sister but it failed for me earlier because i has to finish my karma then only nadi readings will be happening with regards rathina kumar asst professor sri sankara university kanchipuram - 1 9942085320 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Dear Prof Rathina Kumar, Thanks indeed for sharing your experiences with agastthiar jeeva naadi. I am quite happy to note it has worked well for you. I should say yours is one of the very well written post. You have given with facts and figures to substantiate your views. I am sure every reader would learn a lot from your experience. I would like to make some humble obserevations: 1. While Rathina Kumar's (RK) siblings were able to perform the pariharams fortwith and benefit, RK himself was not able to do it for 12 years. He had consulted the Sri HD agasthiar naadi after 12 years and was told that he was not able to do because of sins of grandmother. Cool. We have a new dimension which (at least I have not heard of). Doing pariharam for sins of ancestors. Folks in the forum may kindly say if they had ever come across such karmas in naadi. All people I discussed generally have said that naadi spoke only of their own sins not of their relatives. Grandmother's sin should have affected RK's parents first before touching him, I feel. 2. Another reason sighted for not having the positive result for pariharam is also very important. " Mantra pariyoga of the priest performing the pariharam was not correct " . (In RK's description he had never mentioned that his pariharam involved priests so I am not sure which he is refering to - in any case i assume it is a minor oversight in his documentation). The fact I want to highlight is that from RK's experience, even doing parihaaram would not work if not done correctly and this is outside your control since you may need to engage priests! So Beware. 3. Finally, RK says that " i want to stress that the pariharam helped my brother and my sister but it failed for me earlier because i has to finish my karma then only nadi readings will be happening " So Beware folks. The simple moral is you have to pay for your sins. You cannot even perform parihaaram if the gestation period is not over. You have to suffer through it. Fortunately for RK's siblings they had " suffered through " when they read their naadi; while RK had to wait 12 years. So my feeling is there is a strong argument to saying that just as you are destined to read nadi, so is you are destined to have benefits from it or not. So it is zero sum game. You are stuck with destiny with or without nadi. Meaning even if you had not read the nadi if you are destined to come out of trouble some supernatural power would have advised you to do the pariharam. In this case nadi is merely coicidental in its role. 4. RK had his parihaarams stopped. I feel that just like you are destined to read naadi you are also destined to do parihaarams. So in all RK's note only state one thing: Destiny. So I would feel that destiny cannot be altered by naadi but gets altered through fate and naadi is one such medium. So folks my strong advise is try to do good always. You don't need nadi to tell you that you visit temples monthly or do donations or prayers. Keep doing these regularly whether or not you have had sins in past life; whether or not you have sufferings; prayers help much more than what we realise. There is nothing called " correct " good deed or " wrong " good deed. For instance naadi says annadaanam. But assume if you have been giving cash to the ones below poverty line, that in itself is annadaanam. That would have already averted all your sins and there is no further need to go and cook food and distribute. Folks. Pray and do good all will be fine. There are no quick fix solutions. Now - Prof RK, please do not mistake me for the comments. I just thought of giving a perspective. I am happy that it has worked for you - infact very few lucky ones for whom it has really worked. I would like to give a few of advises though. Number 1: You said that you are happy that you are visiting temples every month. I dont thing as a devote Hindu you really needed nadi to tell you that. Sad. At least in future advise your friends, children and students to do good, charities and prayers without waiting for naadi to tell them that. Every religion says that - shame we have to wait for some naadi reader to tell us this. Number 2: I know something about naga devata. It is easy to errect. Please make sure that it is prayed regularly and well maintained. The ill effects of not doing is equally disastrous as the benefits accrued. This is mentioned in good intentions, else you may be visiting another naadi few years down the road to learn what to do if something turns sour. (touch wook I pray that you should stay healthy and happy). Number 3: I really fail to understand why you did not give Rs 750 and clothes to naadi reader in 2000. It really seems quite shocking since you have had success stories in your family and the pariharam amount was really small. I think it is careless of you.... Sorry if I was blunt. Bests, VR , " rathinakumar " <rathina_mari wrote: > > dear members . > > i am a silent member of this forum. i am watching a quite a number > of posts. i want to share our family experiance with this forum. > > 1)during 1993 when i was studying B.E at madurai , there was a > lot of problems in our family. first one was my elder sisters > health problem.she was suffering from some tumour which was occuring > in her vagina every 3 months and she took treatement including > surgery every four months to remove it for about four years or some > time it breaks itself.reason doctors not able to find.at the time i > was studying astrology under the great astrolger sri p.s iyer in > madurai. he advised me to consult a agasthiar nadi reader at madurai > who just started his center in madurai.i went there and sri > agasthair told to do some pariharaams. my sister sincerley finished > everything and the same month she was scrunntised this time by a > male doctor and her biopsy was sent to some research center and > after that some new drugs were suggsted and after that that tumor > stopped occuring.we sincerly believes her recovery was due to sri > Agasthiars advice > > 2)during 1995 my brothers marriage was stopped due to some family > problems . i again went to the same center and got the readings and > even though brother was not interested , he finished all his > pariharams and donating some money[550] according to the > discriptions given by the nadi were(a) bride wiil be from a > vaishnavite family , it was odd because we are saivites, indeed my > sister in law is a vaaishnavite family > (b)among brides parents only one will be active, it became true as > brides father was physically inactive and he passed away in one year. > © marriage happened exactly the month specified. in 1995 > > 3) my own personal readings i tried to do pariharams and failed > twice to complete.first time i was told to go to three muruga > temples in hills anad after the day i returned from palani in june > 1995, my father wsa diognaised with cancer. second time at 1996 at > thiruparangundram temple during parihara puja the cocaunut as > broken to pices, a bad omen and puja was stopped. in 2000 after my > marriage i tried again but i made a mistake of not giving some > dress materials and money[rs.750] to nadi reader as directed in nadi > and failed to experiance the result indicated by nadi.between 2000 > and 2007 i suffered all kind of sufferings setbacks in my life > including a failed spine surgry which all most made me immobile.in > march 2007 when a a visit to trichy i met a agasthiar nadi reader > by chance and he wanted to read for me which i first refused then > relutanaly because of wifes insistance i accepted. sri agasthiar > told when he gave advice in 1994 and why it was a failure and told > me to do some pariharama within two hours which i did and from then > he adviced to get ashi khandam[blessing]every month full moon day. > from that time my life became spritual and he is giving me advice > which temple i have to visit and when to do anna dhana .in 2008 i > was fortunate to meet sri hanumanthdhasan at chennai due to > blessings of sri agasthiar and gave me unbeleivable things of my > family history which only elders knew.i was told that all parihrams > failed because my grandmother had 9 abrotions and she was > instrumental of spliting a huasband and wife using mantra proyoga > and the mantras prononced by priest during parihara was not > proper , he adviced me to erect a naga devata at kanchipuram which i > finished now. > > now all the predictions by nadi is happeneing , my wife [doctor] got > promotion and i am enjoying a best finacial and spritual life in my > life and iam fortunate to visit sevearal temples every month and i > was able to to do a quite number of charities to temples [ i never > did earlier] thank to my guru sri agasthiar. > > > with all this i want to stress that the pariharam helped my brother > and my sister but it failed for me earlier because i has to finish > my karma then only nadi readings will be happening > > with regards > > > rathina kumar > asst professor > sri sankara university > kanchipuram - 1 > 9942085320 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 dear members , thank you for the comments. 1) at the time of first reading i didnt know the importance of shanthi pariahrams and i was only studying my ug my parents didnt allowed. 2) even though i am born in to a religious family i am not a regular temple workshipper and never got a chance to visit jeeva samadhis of siddha purushas. now frequetly i am getting chances to visit jeeva samadhis all over tamil nadu 3) no body ever approched me for charities for temples but now people are approching me to do some service to the temples. 4)jeeva nadi of sri hanumanth dasan deals with last birth and present family history 5)i also seen sri kagabujanadar nadi at kanchipuram there my past birth details were different from sri agasthiar nadi.where other nadis deals with any one of our past nine births .this i clarified from the nadi reader in tirichi. each phase of our life is controlled by the karma we accumulated from past nine births and so when at a particular phase of life if we approach pariharams coresponding to that past birth is given. this is my personal belief after a detiled talk with nadi reader in trichi 6) each full moon day sri agasthiar gives me instructions to the temple i have to visit and austerities i have to follow through asi kandam which is read free . when i am deviating from spritual practice he advices me what mistake i done and the way to rectify it. this is given last birth i workshiped siddhas with regards rathina kumar sankara university kanchipuram Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 dear members , thank you for the comments. 1) at the time of first reading i didnt know the importance of shanthi pariahrams and i was only studying my ug my parents didnt allowed. 2) even though i am born in to a religious family i am not a regular temple workshipper and never got a chance to visit jeeva samadhis of siddha purushas. now frequetly i am getting chances to visit jeeva samadhis all over tamil nadu 3) no body ever approched me for charities for temples but now people are approching me to do some service to the temples. 4)jeeva nadi of sri hanumanth dasan deals with last birth and present family history 5)i also seen sri kagabujanadar nadi at kanchipuram there my past birth details were different from sri agasthiar nadi.where other nadis deals with any one of our past nine births .this i clarified from the nadi reader in tirichi. each phase of our life is controlled by the karma we accumulated from past nine births and so when at a particular phase of life if we approach pariharams coresponding to that past birth is given. this is my personal belief after a detiled talk with nadi reader in trichi 6) each full moon day sri agasthiar gives me instructions to the temple i have to visit and austerities i have to follow through asi kandam which is read free . when i am deviating from spritual practice he advices me what mistake i done and the way to rectify it. this is given last birth i workshiped siddhas with regards rathina kumar sankara university kanchipuram Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 1) Yes even for me and my sister, naadi reader told there is some curse in your family because of ancestors and hence you will have some problems in marriage life. You are absolutely true VR. If we have done sins in our present or past life, we have to reap the returns also. That can never be escaped by these naadi pariharams. Irrespective of what naadi reader is telling, we can always visit temple, do charity and God will be pleased. Else only Nadi Reader will be pleased.. Thats my thought. , " vr.2006 " <vr.2006 wrote: > > Dear Prof Rathina Kumar, > > Thanks indeed for sharing your experiences with agastthiar jeeva > naadi. I am quite happy to note it has worked well for you. > > I should say yours is one of the very well written post. You have > given with facts and figures to substantiate your views. I am sure > every reader would learn a lot from your experience. > > I would like to make some humble obserevations: > > 1. While Rathina Kumar's (RK) siblings were able to perform the > pariharams fortwith and benefit, RK himself was not able to do it for > 12 years. He had consulted the Sri HD agasthiar naadi after 12 years > and was told that he was not able to do because of sins of > grandmother. Cool. We have a new dimension which (at least I have not > heard of). Doing pariharam for sins of ancestors. Folks in the forum > may kindly say if they had ever come across such karmas in naadi. All > people I discussed generally have said that naadi spoke only of their > own sins not of their relatives. Grandmother's sin should have > affected RK's parents first before touching him, I feel. > > 2. Another reason sighted for not having the positive result for > pariharam is also very important. " Mantra pariyoga of the priest > performing the pariharam was not correct " . (In RK's description he > had never mentioned that his pariharam involved priests so I am not > sure which he is refering to - in any case i assume it is a minor > oversight in his documentation). The fact I want to highlight is that > from RK's experience, even doing parihaaram would not work if not > done correctly and this is outside your control since you may need to > engage priests! So Beware. > > 3. Finally, RK says that " i want to stress that the pariharam helped > my brother and my sister but it failed for me earlier because i has > to finish my karma then only nadi readings will be happening " So > Beware folks. The simple moral is you have to pay for your sins. You > cannot even perform parihaaram if the gestation period is not over. > You have to suffer through it. Fortunately for RK's siblings they > had " suffered through " when they read their naadi; while RK had to > wait 12 years. So my feeling is there is a strong argument to saying > that just as you are destined to read nadi, so is you are destined to > have benefits from it or not. So it is zero sum game. You are stuck > with destiny with or without nadi. Meaning even if you had not read > the nadi if you are destined to come out of trouble some supernatural > power would have advised you to do the pariharam. In this case nadi > is merely coicidental in its role. > > 4. RK had his parihaarams stopped. I feel that just like you are > destined to read naadi you are also destined to do parihaarams. So in > all RK's note only state one thing: Destiny. So I would feel that > destiny cannot be altered by naadi but gets altered through fate and > naadi is one such medium. > > So folks my strong advise is try to do good always. You don't need > nadi to tell you that you visit temples monthly or do donations or > prayers. Keep doing these regularly whether or not you have had sins > in past life; whether or not you have sufferings; prayers help much > more than what we realise. There is nothing called " correct " good > deed or " wrong " good deed. For instance naadi says annadaanam. But > assume if you have been giving cash to the ones below poverty line, > that in itself is annadaanam. That would have already averted all > your sins and there is no further need to go and cook food and > distribute. > > Folks. Pray and do good all will be fine. There are no quick fix > solutions. > > Now - Prof RK, please do not mistake me for the comments. I just > thought of giving a perspective. I am happy that it has worked for > you - infact very few lucky ones for whom it has really worked. I > would like to give a few of advises though. > > Number 1: You said that you are happy that you are visiting temples > every month. I dont thing as a devote Hindu you really needed nadi to > tell you that. Sad. At least in future advise your friends, children > and students to do good, charities and prayers without waiting for > naadi to tell them that. Every religion says that - shame we have to > wait for some naadi reader to tell us this. > > Number 2: I know something about naga devata. It is easy to errect. > Please make sure that it is prayed regularly and well maintained. The > ill effects of not doing is equally disastrous as the benefits > accrued. This is mentioned in good intentions, else you may be > visiting another naadi few years down the road to learn what to do if > something turns sour. (touch wook I pray that you should stay healthy > and happy). > > Number 3: I really fail to understand why you did not give Rs 750 and > clothes to naadi reader in 2000. It really seems quite shocking since > you have had success stories in your family and the pariharam amount > was really small. I think it is careless of you.... > > Sorry if I was blunt. > > Bests, > VR > > > > , " rathinakumar " > <rathina_mari@> wrote: > > > > dear members . > > > > i am a silent member of this forum. i am watching a quite a number > > of posts. i want to share our family experiance with this forum. > > > > 1)during 1993 when i was studying B.E at madurai , there was a > > lot of problems in our family. first one was my elder sisters > > health problem.she was suffering from some tumour which was > occuring > > in her vagina every 3 months and she took treatement including > > surgery every four months to remove it for about four years or some > > time it breaks itself.reason doctors not able to find.at the time i > > was studying astrology under the great astrolger sri p.s iyer in > > madurai. he advised me to consult a agasthiar nadi reader at > madurai > > who just started his center in madurai.i went there and sri > > agasthair told to do some pariharaams. my sister sincerley > finished > > everything and the same month she was scrunntised this time by a > > male doctor and her biopsy was sent to some research center and > > after that some new drugs were suggsted and after that that tumor > > stopped occuring.we sincerly believes her recovery was due to sri > > Agasthiars advice > > > > 2)during 1995 my brothers marriage was stopped due to some family > > problems . i again went to the same center and got the readings and > > even though brother was not interested , he finished all his > > pariharams and donating some money[550] according to the > > discriptions given by the nadi were(a) bride wiil be from a > > vaishnavite family , it was odd because we are saivites, indeed my > > sister in law is a vaaishnavite family > > (b)among brides parents only one will be active, it became true as > > brides father was physically inactive and he passed away in one > year. > > © marriage happened exactly the month specified. in 1995 > > > > 3) my own personal readings i tried to do pariharams and failed > > twice to complete.first time i was told to go to three muruga > > temples in hills anad after the day i returned from palani in june > > 1995, my father wsa diognaised with cancer. second time at 1996 at > > thiruparangundram temple during parihara puja the cocaunut as > > broken to pices, a bad omen and puja was stopped. in 2000 after my > > marriage i tried again but i made a mistake of not giving some > > dress materials and money[rs.750] to nadi reader as directed in > nadi > > and failed to experiance the result indicated by nadi.between 2000 > > and 2007 i suffered all kind of sufferings setbacks in my life > > including a failed spine surgry which all most made me immobile.in > > march 2007 when a a visit to trichy i met a agasthiar nadi reader > > by chance and he wanted to read for me which i first refused then > > relutanaly because of wifes insistance i accepted. sri agasthiar > > told when he gave advice in 1994 and why it was a failure and told > > me to do some pariharama within two hours which i did and from then > > he adviced to get ashi khandam[blessing]every month full moon day. > > from that time my life became spritual and he is giving me advice > > which temple i have to visit and when to do anna dhana .in 2008 i > > was fortunate to meet sri hanumanthdhasan at chennai due to > > blessings of sri agasthiar and gave me unbeleivable things of my > > family history which only elders knew.i was told that all parihrams > > failed because my grandmother had 9 abrotions and she was > > instrumental of spliting a huasband and wife using mantra proyoga > > and the mantras prononced by priest during parihara was not > > proper , he adviced me to erect a naga devata at kanchipuram which > i > > finished now. > > > > now all the predictions by nadi is happeneing , my wife [doctor] > got > > promotion and i am enjoying a best finacial and spritual life in my > > life and iam fortunate to visit sevearal temples every month and i > > was able to to do a quite number of charities to temples [ i never > > did earlier] thank to my guru sri agasthiar. > > > > > > with all this i want to stress that the pariharam helped my brother > > and my sister but it failed for me earlier because i has to finish > > my karma then only nadi readings will be happening > > > > with regards > > > > > > rathina kumar > > asst professor > > sri sankara university > > kanchipuram - 1 > > 9942085320 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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