Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Dear Rafal Ji, Namaskar, Did this person get married anytime between May/2006 and Mar/2007. More precisely might be in the month of May-Jun 2006. If I am correct then I may give my approach. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: hare rama krsnaDear Jyotisha's!We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see this mail:Quiz: September 17, 1975Time: 14:19:43Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 19 E 50' 00", 54 N 23' 00"Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house - they meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to marriage and he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). Please try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get married. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 and good at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also).Rasi Lagna - Dhanus.Navamsa Lagna - Taurus.(rectified - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is also working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona).Regards,Rafal GendarzSJC Guruwww.rohinaa.com(+48) 503 44 18 18 Anurag Sharma napisał(a): |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in SJC and discussed on the Lists. I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and Navamsha but this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method in his paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas. Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful approach can be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions. In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the native to commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing of this potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the Prashna and the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative approach in this regard. I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, placed with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very encouraging as Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the results of Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL placed in the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL. Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly help as it aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate events in this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP placed in UL in Rashi Chakra. Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in Navamsha and has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have unobstructed Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be a time for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari Dasha will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha. As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area of life appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the auspicious effects to come. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *hare rama krsna*> > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji> > They are many techniques for timing marriage like:> > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA> > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA (here are > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar touching the > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari and A7 > in D9 technique.> > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala)> > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect this last > two, then You have many many dasas)> > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit> > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was recomended > so far> > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play role as > confirmer> > of course there are many more like Sahams etc..> > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our Narasimha > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or someone from > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please kindly share > experience with us which of these points are important and many others > You may know.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> SJC Guru> www.rohinaa. com> (+48) 503 44 18 18> > Amit Puri napisaÅ‚(a):> >> > !! Jai Ganesha !!> >> > * à¥** * ÅšrÄ« MÄtre Namaḥ !> >> > Namskar Anurag ji> >> > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! …Can we narrow down some > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > >> > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week of July > > 2007… and having good shadbala and more positive contributing bindu > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? …. Will > > wait for your comments> >> > > > Amit puri> >> > > >> >> >> > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* <anuraagsharma27@ > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27 wrote:> >> > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> >> > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> >> > Dear Michal,> >> > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the Karma of> > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications.> >> > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the person might> > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the Lagnesh and> > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is worse in> > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the Karma> > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also> > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma.> >> > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is> > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, being> > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed in an> > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now.> >> > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could show coming> > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana> > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of> > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be remedied. If> > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably> > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results as the> > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. Some of> > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject through> > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the Dasha and> > the significance of the various permutations and combinations of> > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This> > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am> > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater> > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the learned> > scholars.> >> > Best regards,> >> > Anurag Sharma> >> > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com>> >> > > >> >> > > > < , Michal Dziwulski> > nearmichal@ ..> wrote:> > >> > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > >> > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav,> > >> > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that neither> > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved.> > >> > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her emotionally> > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th from the> > Moon.> > >> > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in Navamsa and> > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this?> > >> > > Respectfully,> > > Michal> > >> > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > >> > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ...> > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com> > <sohamsa; Vedic Astrology List> > vedic astrology> > <vedic- astrology; Srijagannath> > < > >> > > Cc: Me anuraag9@> > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a> > Desperate Girl> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > |Om Shreenivasaya> > > Namah|> > >> > > |Om Lakshmyai> > > Namah|> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Gaurav,> > >> > > Namaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > > The most important facet of> > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by the Graha> > Drishti of Rahu,> > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the Naisargika Karaka> > of marriage,> > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow and anger> > might manifest> > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. The fact> > that Shukra is> > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which invited the> > curse in the> > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) was not> > done with the> > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be severe.> > >> > >> > >> > > The curse can be remedied as> > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for Rahu.> > Also, the fact> > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed strength to its> > > significations.> > >> > >> > >> > > Donation of an idol of> > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, donating a> > bed for their> > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to attempt> > to come out of> > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will> > affect her> > > intelligence and being directly.> > >> > >> > >> > > The debilitated malefic Mars> > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is> > conjoined the A7, a> > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would have> > been a headstrong> > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox disapproval at> > home (Shani in> > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to> > marry the person> > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. The 2nd> > Lord from the UL,> > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury.> > >> > >> > >> > > She is on the 2nd Upapada.> > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; 20:39:13;> > Dehradun, India.> > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines to the> > natal 2nd UL> > > Kumbha.> > >> > >> > >> > > Your recommendation of> > > fasting is correct and essential.> > >> > >> > >> > > She should also propitiate> > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva.> > >> > >> > >> > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be> > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other Mantra.> > Else, start her> > > with 1 Mala.> > >> > >> > >> > > The exaltation of Venus in> > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya.> > >> > >> > >> > > This aspect of life is not> > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in> > Rashi is also in> > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and this UL> > are not too badly> > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL and the> > 2nd House from> > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation.> > >> > >> > >> > > Best Wishes,> > > Anurag Sharma> > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > >> > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the> > > Articles page> > >> > >> > > Aum Durgayai namah> > >> > > Namaste Gurus,> > >> > > Please find a request for> > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get> > > married, but unable to find> > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on> > > mondays (UL),> > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of> > > Jupiter> > > Mahadasa.> > >> > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and> > > other co lord> > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun,> > > all this indicating that> > > the person will be from a good family and> > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9,> > > the mangal is srong in own house.> > >> > >> > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in> > > D9...> > >> > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help;> > >> > > Date:> > > November 18, 1977> > > Time:> > > 17:40:00> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East> > > of GMT)> > > Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26> > > N 55' 10"> > > jaipur, , USA> > > Altitude: 425.00> > > meters> > >> > > Namaste> > > Gaurav Jain> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > <!--> > >> > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica,> > clean, sans-serif;}> > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;}> > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica,> > clean, sans-serif;}> > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;}> > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;}> > > #ygrp-text{> > > font-family: Georgia;> > > }> > > #ygrp-text p{> > > margin:0 0 1em 0;}> > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{> > > font-family: Arial;> > > clear:both;}> > > #ygrp-vitnav{> > > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;}> > > #ygrp-vitnav a{> > > padding:0 1px;}> > > #ygrp-actbar{> > > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text-> > align:right; }> > > #ygrp-actbar .left{> > > float:left;white- space:nowrap; }> > > .bld{font-weight: bold;}> > > #ygrp-grft{> > > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;}> > > #ygrp-ft{> > > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666;> > > padding:5px 0;> > > }> > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{> > > padding-bottom: 10px;}> > >> > > #ygrp-vital{> > > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px> > 8px;}> > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{> > > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold;> > color:#333; text-transform: uppercase; }> > > #ygrp-vital ul{> > > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;}> > > #ygrp-vital ul li{> > > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee;> > > }> > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{> > > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text-> > align:right; padding-right: .5em;}> > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{> > > font-weight: bold;}> > > #ygrp-vital a {> > > text-decoration: none;}> > >> > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{> > > text-decoration: underline; }> > >> > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{> > > color:#999;font- size:77%; }> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{> > > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{> > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; }> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{> > > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{> > > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc {> > > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{> > > padding:8px 0;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{> > > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size:> > 100%;line- height:122% ;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{> > > text-decoration: none;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{> > > text-decoration: underline; }> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{> > > margin:0;}> > > o {font-size:0; }> > > .MsoNormal {> > > margin:0 0 0 0;}> > > #ygrp-text tt{> > > font-size:120% ;}> > > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;}> > > .replbq {margin:4;}> > > -->> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________> > _________ _________ _________> > > Never miss an email again!> > > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives.> > > http://tools. search.. com/toolbar/ features/ mail/> > >> >> >> >> Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Rafal, Namaskar. The Upapada in the 6th House from the AL and Venus in the 6th from the AL can show some distancing in the marriage. This is especially so because Venus is in the 12th House in the Navamsha. As you have pointed out, the great strength of the 2nd Lord from the UL protects the marriage, forming Dharmakarmadhipati Yoga in the Rashi Chart. The native knew the girl before marriage as the lord of UL, Sun is placed in the A7 in the 10th House. There is Jara Yoga. The Chandra Vimshottari Dasha of Guru from 1998 is promising. Guru is also giving Argala to Navamsha Lagna which is not fully obstructed by Rahu though Rahu gives Vipreeta Argala of its own. The Antardashas of Mercury and Ketu are promising as they give Argala to the 7th House in the Navamsha. Mercury gives Argala to the 7th Lord also. Annual TP of 2002-2003 appears unlikely to have given marriage. Annual TP of 2003-2004 is more likely as the Lagna rising in the TP Rashi Chart is Dhanu and the Hora Lord Mars is placed in the 7th House in the Navamsha. The thing is that with this time Guru is transiting Upapada and he may have met the spouse at this time in late 2003. The annual TP of 2004-2005 has Leo Lagna rising which is in trines to natal Lagna and indicates an auspicious event. The Hora Lord Moon is in the 7th House indicating marriage. In the Navamsha, the Moon is placed in the 9th House of Bhagya as the Hora Lord, though afflicted by Ketu. Ketu Antardasha runs in Vimshottari and gives Vipreeta Argala to the 7th House. Ketu is also the 7th Lord of the Navamsha. Jupiter transits the 2nd House from the UL. Maybe the marriage happened from 30th March, 2005 to 22nd May, 2005 in the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of the Hora Lord Moon. The Navamsha Narayan Dasha of Taurus would be running which is the Lagna. Marriage is possible. Marriage at about 30 is possible as retrograde Venus is in the UL in Rashi chart and in the 12th House in the Navamsha Chart. The AD of Libra and Scorpio are both possible. In the AD of Scorpio, the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of Mars would be on. Mars lords the Navamsha Lagna. So summer of 2005 appears to be a possibility. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com--- In sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hare rama krsna*> > Dear Jyotisha's!> > We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see this mail:> > *Quiz:*> > *September 17, 1975> Time: 14:19:43> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 19 E 50' 00", 54 N 23' 00"*> > Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house - they > meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to marriage and > he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). *Please > try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get > married*. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 and good > at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also).> > > Rasi Lagna - Dhanus.> *> Navamsa Lagna - Taurus*.> (*rectified* - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is also > working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona).> > > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> SJC Guru> www.rohinaa.com> (+48) 503 44 18 18> > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> >> > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> >> > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> >> > Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members,> >> > That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I > > think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in SJC and > > discussed on the Lists.> >> > I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and Navamsha but > > this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method in his > > paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas. > > Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful approach can > > be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures > > where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions.> >> > In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the native to > > commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing of this > > potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the Prashna and > > the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative > > approach in this regard.> >> > I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the > > relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, placed > > with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the > > Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very encouraging as > > Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the results of > > Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL placed in > > the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL.> >> > Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these > > matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be > > studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly help as it > > aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate events in > > this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP placed in > > UL in Rashi Chakra.> >> > Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in Navamsha and > > has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have unobstructed > > Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be a time > > for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari Dasha > > will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha.> >> > As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area of life > > appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the > > auspicious effects to come.> >> > Regards,> >> > Anurag Sharma> >> > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hare rama krsna*> > >> > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji> > >> > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like:> > >> > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA> > >> > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA (here are> > > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar touching the> > > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari and A7> > > in D9 technique.> > >> > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala)> > >> > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect this last> > > two, then You have many many dasas)> > >> > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa Pravesh > > Chakra> > >> > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit> > >> > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was > > recomended> > > so far> > >> > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play role as> > > confirmer> > >> > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc..> > >> > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our > > Narasimha> > > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or someone from> > > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please kindly share> > > experience with us which of these points are important and many others> > > You may know.> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz> > > SJC Guru> > > www.rohinaa. com> > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > >> > > Amit Puri napisaÅ,(a):> > > >> > > > !! Jai Ganesha !!> > > >> > > > * à¥?** * Ås(rÄ« MÄ?tre Namaḥ !> > > >> > > > Namskar Anurag ji> > > >> > > >> > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! âEUR¦Can we narrow > > down some> > > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ?> > > >> > > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week of July> > > > 2007âEUR¦ and having good shadbala and more positive contributing > > bindu> > > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? âEUR¦. > > Will> > > > wait for your comments> > > >> > > >> > > > Amit puri> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* <anuraagsharma27@> > > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27@ wrote:> > > >> > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > >> > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> > > >> > > > Dear Michal,> > > >> > > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the Karma of> > > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications.> > > >> > > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the person might> > > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the Lagnesh and> > > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is worse in> > > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the Karma> > > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also> > > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma.> > > >> > > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is> > > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, being> > > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed in an> > > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now.> > > >> > > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could show coming> > > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana> > > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of> > > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be remedied. If> > > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably> > > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results as the> > > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. Some of> > > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject through> > > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the Dasha and> > > > the significance of the various permutations and combinations of> > > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This> > > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am> > > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater> > > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the learned> > > > scholars.> > > >> > > > Best regards,> > > >> > > > Anurag Sharma> > > >> > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > < , Michal Dziwulski> > > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > > > >> > > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav,> > > > >> > > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that neither> > > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved.> > > > >> > > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her emotionally> > > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th from the> > > > Moon.> > > > >> > > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in Navamsa and> > > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this?> > > > >> > > > > Respectfully,> > > > > Michal> > > > >> > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ...> > > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com> > > > <sohamsa; Vedic Astrology List> > > > vedic astrology> > > > <vedic- astrology; Srijagannath> > > > < > > > >> > > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@> > > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a> > > > Desperate Girl> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya> > > > > Namah|> > > > >> > > > > |Om Lakshmyai> > > > > Namah|> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Gaurav,> > > > >> > > > > Namaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The most important facet of> > > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by the Graha> > > > Drishti of Rahu,> > > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the Naisargika Karaka> > > > of marriage,> > > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow and anger> > > > might manifest> > > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. The fact> > > > that Shukra is> > > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which invited the> > > > curse in the> > > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) was not> > > > done with the> > > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be severe.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The curse can be remedied as> > > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for Rahu.> > > > Also, the fact> > > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed strength to its> > > > > significations.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Donation of an idol of> > > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, donating a> > > > bed for their> > > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to attempt> > > > to come out of> > > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will> > > > affect her> > > > > intelligence and being directly.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The debilitated malefic Mars> > > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is> > > > conjoined the A7, a> > > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would have> > > > been a headstrong> > > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox disapproval at> > > > home (Shani in> > > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to> > > > marry the person> > > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. The 2nd> > > > Lord from the UL,> > > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada.> > > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; 20:39:13;> > > > Dehradun, India.> > > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines to the> > > > natal 2nd UL> > > > > Kumbha.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Your recommendation of> > > > > fasting is correct and essential.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > She should also propitiate> > > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be> > > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other Mantra.> > > > Else, start her> > > > > with 1 Mala.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The exaltation of Venus in> > > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > This aspect of life is not> > > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in> > > > Rashi is also in> > > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and this UL> > > > are not too badly> > > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL and the> > > > 2nd House from> > > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Best Wishes,> > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > >> > > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the> > > > > Articles page> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Aum Durgayai namah> > > > >> > > > > Namaste Gurus,> > > > >> > > > > Please find a request for> > > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get> > > > > married, but unable to find> > > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on> > > > > mondays (UL),> > > > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of> > > > > Jupiter> > > > > Mahadasa.> > > > >> > > > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and> > > > > other co lord> > > > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun,> > > > > all this indicating that> > > > > the person will be from a good family and> > > > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9,> > > > > the mangal is srong in own house.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in> > > > > D9...> > > > >> > > > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help;> > > > >> > > > > Date:> > > > > November 18, 1977> > > > > Time:> > > > > 17:40:00> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East> > > > > of GMT)> > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26> > > > > N 55' 10"> > > > > jaipur, , USA> > > > > Altitude: 425.00> > > > > meters> > > > >> > > > > Namaste> > > > > Gaurav Jain> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > <!--> > > > >> > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica,> > > > clean, sans-serif;}> > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;}> > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica,> > > > clean, sans-serif;}> > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;}> > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;}> > > > > #ygrp-text{> > > > > font-family: Georgia;> > > > > }> > > > > #ygrp-text p{> > > > > margin:0 0 1em 0;}> > > > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{> > > > > font-family: Arial;> > > > > clear:both;}> > > > > #ygrp-vitnav{> > > > > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;}> > > > > #ygrp-vitnav a{> > > > > padding:0 1px;}> > > > > #ygrp-actbar{> > > > > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text-> > > > align:right; }> > > > > #ygrp-actbar .left{> > > > > float:left;white- space:nowrap; }> > > > > .bld{font-weight: bold;}> > > > > #ygrp-grft{> > > > > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;}> > > > > #ygrp-ft{> > > > > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666;> > > > > padding:5px 0;> > > > > }> > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{> > > > > padding-bottom: 10px;}> > > > >> > > > > #ygrp-vital{> > > > > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px> > > > 8px;}> > > > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{> > > > > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold;> > > > color:#333; text-transform: uppercase; }> > > > > #ygrp-vital ul{> > > > > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;}> > > > > #ygrp-vital ul li{> > > > > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee;> > > > > }> > > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{> > > > > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text-> > > > align:right; padding-right: .5em;}> > > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{> > > > > font-weight: bold;}> > > > > #ygrp-vital a {> > > > > text-decoration: none;}> > > > >> > > > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{> > > > > text-decoration: underline; }> > > > >> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{> > > > > color:#999;font- size:77%; }> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{> > > > > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;}> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{> > > > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; }> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{> > > > > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;}> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{> > > > > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;}> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc {> > > > > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;}> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{> > > > > padding:8px 0;}> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{> > > > > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size:> > > > 100%;line- height:122% ;}> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{> > > > > text-decoration: none;}> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{> > > > > text-decoration: underline; }> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{> > > > > margin:0;}> > > > > o {font-size:0; }> > > > > .MsoNormal {> > > > > margin:0 0 0 0;}> > > > > #ygrp-text tt{> > > > > font-size:120% ;}> > > > > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;}> > > > > .replbq {margin:4;}> > > > > -->> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________> > > > _________ _________ _________> > > > > Never miss an email again!> > > > > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives.> > > > > http://tools. search.. com/toolbar/ features/ mail/> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Dear Rafal Ji, Namaskar, Did this person get married anytime between May/2006 and Mar/2007. More precisely might be in the month of May-Jun 2006. If I am correct then I may give my approach. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: hare rama krsnaDear Jyotisha's!We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see this mail:Quiz: September 17, 1975Time: 14:19:43Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 19 E 50' 00", 54 N 23' 00"Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house - they meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to marriage and he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). Please try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get married. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 and good at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also).Rasi Lagna - Dhanus.Navamsa Lagna - Taurus.(rectified - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is also working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona).Regards,Rafal GendarzSJC Guruwww.rohinaa.com(+48) 503 44 18 18 Anurag Sharma napisał(a): |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in SJC and discussed on the Lists. I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and Navamsha but this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method in his paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas. Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful approach can be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions. In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the native to commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing of this potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the Prashna and the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative approach in this regard. I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, placed with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very encouraging as Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the results of Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL placed in the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL. Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly help as it aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate events in this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP placed in UL in Rashi Chakra. Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in Navamsha and has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have unobstructed Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be a time for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari Dasha will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha. As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area of life appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the auspicious effects to come. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *hare rama krsna*> > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji> > They are many techniques for timing marriage like:> > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA> > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA (here are > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar touching the > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari and A7 > in D9 technique.> > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala)> > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect this last > two, then You have many many dasas)> > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit> > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was recomended > so far> > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play role as > confirmer> > of course there are many more like Sahams etc..> > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our Narasimha > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or someone from > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please kindly share > experience with us which of these points are important and many others > You may know.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> SJC Guru> www.rohinaa. com> (+48) 503 44 18 18> > Amit Puri napisaÅ‚(a):> >> > !! Jai Ganesha !!> >> > * à¥** * ÅšrÄ« MÄtre Namaḥ !> >> > Namskar Anurag ji> >> > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! …Can we narrow down some > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > >> > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week of July > > 2007… and having good shadbala and more positive contributing bindu > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? …. Will > > wait for your comments> >> > > > Amit puri> >> > > >> >> >> > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* <anuraagsharma27@ > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27 wrote:> >> > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> >> > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> >> > Dear Michal,> >> > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the Karma of> > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications.> >> > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the person might> > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the Lagnesh and> > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is worse in> > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the Karma> > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also> > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma.> >> > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is> > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, being> > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed in an> > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now.> >> > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could show coming> > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana> > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of> > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be remedied. If> > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably> > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results as the> > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. Some of> > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject through> > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the Dasha and> > the significance of the various permutations and combinations of> > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This> > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am> > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater> > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the learned> > scholars.> >> > Best regards,> >> > Anurag Sharma> >> > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com>> >> > > >> >> > > > < , Michal Dziwulski> > nearmichal@ ..> wrote:> > >> > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > >> > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav,> > >> > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that neither> > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved.> > >> > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her emotionally> > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th from the> > Moon.> > >> > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in Navamsa and> > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this?> > >> > > Respectfully,> > > Michal> > >> > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > >> > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ...> > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com> > <sohamsa; Vedic Astrology List> > vedic astrology> > <vedic- astrology; Srijagannath> > < > >> > > Cc: Me anuraag9@> > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a> > Desperate Girl> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > |Om Shreenivasaya> > > Namah|> > >> > > |Om Lakshmyai> > > Namah|> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Gaurav,> > >> > > Namaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > > The most important facet of> > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by the Graha> > Drishti of Rahu,> > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the Naisargika Karaka> > of marriage,> > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow and anger> > might manifest> > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. The fact> > that Shukra is> > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which invited the> > curse in the> > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) was not> > done with the> > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be severe.> > >> > >> > >> > > The curse can be remedied as> > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for Rahu.> > Also, the fact> > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed strength to its> > > significations.> > >> > >> > >> > > Donation of an idol of> > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, donating a> > bed for their> > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to attempt> > to come out of> > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will> > affect her> > > intelligence and being directly.> > >> > >> > >> > > The debilitated malefic Mars> > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is> > conjoined the A7, a> > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would have> > been a headstrong> > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox disapproval at> > home (Shani in> > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to> > marry the person> > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. The 2nd> > Lord from the UL,> > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury.> > >> > >> > >> > > She is on the 2nd Upapada.> > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; 20:39:13;> > Dehradun, India.> > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines to the> > natal 2nd UL> > > Kumbha.> > >> > >> > >> > > Your recommendation of> > > fasting is correct and essential.> > >> > >> > >> > > She should also propitiate> > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva.> > >> > >> > >> > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be> > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other Mantra.> > Else, start her> > > with 1 Mala.> > >> > >> > >> > > The exaltation of Venus in> > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya.> > >> > >> > >> > > This aspect of life is not> > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in> > Rashi is also in> > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and this UL> > are not too badly> > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL and the> > 2nd House from> > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation.> > >> > >> > >> > > Best Wishes,> > > Anurag Sharma> > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > >> > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the> > > Articles page> > >> > >> > > Aum Durgayai namah> > >> > > Namaste Gurus,> > >> > > Please find a request for> > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get> > > married, but unable to find> > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on> > > mondays (UL),> > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of> > > Jupiter> > > Mahadasa.> > >> > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and> > > other co lord> > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun,> > > all this indicating that> > > the person will be from a good family and> > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9,> > > the mangal is srong in own house.> > >> > >> > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in> > > D9...> > >> > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help;> > >> > > Date:> > > November 18, 1977> > > Time:> > > 17:40:00> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East> > > of GMT)> > > Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26> > > N 55' 10"> > > jaipur, , USA> > > Altitude: 425.00> > > meters> > >> > > Namaste> > > Gaurav Jain> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > <!--> > >> > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica,> > clean, sans-serif;}> > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;}> > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica,> > clean, sans-serif;}> > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;}> > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;}> > > #ygrp-text{> > > font-family: Georgia;> > > }> > > #ygrp-text p{> > > margin:0 0 1em 0;}> > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{> > > font-family: Arial;> > > clear:both;}> > > #ygrp-vitnav{> > > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;}> > > #ygrp-vitnav a{> > > padding:0 1px;}> > > #ygrp-actbar{> > > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text-> > align:right; }> > > #ygrp-actbar .left{> > > float:left;white- space:nowrap; }> > > .bld{font-weight: bold;}> > > #ygrp-grft{> > > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;}> > > #ygrp-ft{> > > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666;> > > padding:5px 0;> > > }> > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{> > > padding-bottom: 10px;}> > >> > > #ygrp-vital{> > > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px> > 8px;}> > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{> > > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold;> > color:#333; text-transform: uppercase; }> > > #ygrp-vital ul{> > > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;}> > > #ygrp-vital ul li{> > > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee;> > > }> > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{> > > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text-> > align:right; padding-right: .5em;}> > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{> > > font-weight: bold;}> > > #ygrp-vital a {> > > text-decoration: none;}> > >> > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{> > > text-decoration: underline; }> > >> > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{> > > color:#999;font- size:77%; }> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{> > > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{> > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; }> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{> > > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{> > > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc {> > > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{> > > padding:8px 0;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{> > > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size:> > 100%;line- height:122% ;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{> > > text-decoration: none;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{> > > text-decoration: underline; }> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{> > > margin:0;}> > > o {font-size:0; }> > > .MsoNormal {> > > margin:0 0 0 0;}> > > #ygrp-text tt{> > > font-size:120% ;}> > > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;}> > > .replbq {margin:4;}> > > -->> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________> > _________ _________ _________> > > Never miss an email again!> > > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives.> > > http://tools. search.. com/toolbar/ features/ mail/> > >> >> >> >> Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Dear Rafal, Did this native marry between oct 2003 and 2004 july. About 16th to 18th Nov 2003. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hare rama krsna* > > Dear Jyotisha's! > > We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see this mail: > > *Quiz:* > > * September 17, 1975 > Time: 14:19:43 > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 19 E 50' 00 " , 54 N 23' 00 " * > > Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house - they > meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to marriage and > he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). *Please > try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get > married*. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 and good > at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also). > > > Rasi Lagna - Dhanus. > * > Navamsa Lagna - Taurus*. > (*rectified* - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is also > working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona). > > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Guru > www.rohinaa.com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a): > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, > > > > That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I > > think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in SJC and > > discussed on the Lists. > > > > I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and Navamsha but > > this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method in his > > paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas. > > Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful approach can > > be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures > > where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions. > > > > In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the native to > > commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing of this > > potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the Prashna and > > the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative > > approach in this regard. > > > > I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the > > relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, placed > > with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the > > Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very encouraging as > > Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the results of > > Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL placed in > > the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL. > > > > Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these > > matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be > > studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly help as it > > aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate events in > > this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP placed in > > UL in Rashi Chakra. > > > > Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in Navamsha and > > has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have unobstructed > > Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be a time > > for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari Dasha > > will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha. > > > > As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area of life > > appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the > > auspicious effects to come. > > > > Regards, > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji > > > > > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like: > > > > > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA > > > > > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA (here are > > > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar touching the > > > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari and A7 > > > in D9 technique. > > > > > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala) > > > > > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect this last > > > two, then You have many many dasas) > > > > > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa Pravesh > > Chakra > > > > > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit > > > > > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was > > recomended > > > so far > > > > > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play role as > > > confirmer > > > > > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc.. > > > > > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our > > Narasimha > > > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or someone from > > > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please kindly share > > > experience with us which of these points are important and many others > > > You may know. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Guru > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > Amit Puri napisaÅ,(a): > > > > > > > > !! Jai Ganesha !! > > > > > > > > * à¥?** * Ås(rÄ« MÄ?tre Namaḥ ! > > > > > > > > Namskar Anurag ji > > > > > > > > > > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! âEUR¦Can we narrow > > down some > > > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > > > > > > > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week of July > > > > 2007âEUR¦ and having good shadbala and more positive contributing > > bindu > > > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? âEUR¦. > > Will > > > > wait for your comments > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit puri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* <anuraagsharma27@ > > > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27@> wrote: > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the Karma of > > > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications. > > > > > > > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the person might > > > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the Lagnesh and > > > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is worse in > > > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the Karma > > > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also > > > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma. > > > > > > > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is > > > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, being > > > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed in an > > > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now. > > > > > > > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could show coming > > > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana > > > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of > > > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be remedied. If > > > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably > > > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results as the > > > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. Some of > > > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject through > > > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the Dasha and > > > > the significance of the various permutations and combinations of > > > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This > > > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am > > > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater > > > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the learned > > > > scholars. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < , Michal Dziwulski > > > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that neither > > > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved. > > > > > > > > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her emotionally > > > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th from the > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in Navamsa and > > > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this? > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ... > > > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com > > > > <sohamsa; Vedic Astrology List > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic- astrology; Srijagannath > > > > < > > > > > > > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@ > > > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a > > > > Desperate Girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya > > > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai > > > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most important facet of > > > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by the Graha > > > > Drishti of Rahu, > > > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the Naisargika Karaka > > > > of marriage, > > > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow and anger > > > > might manifest > > > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. The fact > > > > that Shukra is > > > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which invited the > > > > curse in the > > > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) was not > > > > done with the > > > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The curse can be remedied as > > > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for Rahu. > > > > Also, the fact > > > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed strength to its > > > > > significations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donation of an idol of > > > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, donating a > > > > bed for their > > > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to attempt > > > > to come out of > > > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will > > > > affect her > > > > > intelligence and being directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The debilitated malefic Mars > > > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is > > > > conjoined the A7, a > > > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would have > > > > been a headstrong > > > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox disapproval at > > > > home (Shani in > > > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to > > > > marry the person > > > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. The 2nd > > > > Lord from the UL, > > > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada. > > > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; 20:39:13; > > > > Dehradun, India. > > > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines to the > > > > natal 2nd UL > > > > > Kumbha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your recommendation of > > > > > fasting is correct and essential. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She should also propitiate > > > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be > > > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other Mantra. > > > > Else, start her > > > > > with 1 Mala. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The exaltation of Venus in > > > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This aspect of life is not > > > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in > > > > Rashi is also in > > > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and this UL > > > > are not too badly > > > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL and the > > > > 2nd House from > > > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the > > > > > Articles page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai namah > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Gurus, > > > > > > > > > > Please find a request for > > > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get > > > > > married, but unable to find > > > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on > > > > > mondays (UL), > > > > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > Mahadasa. > > > > > > > > > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and > > > > > other co lord > > > > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun, > > > > > all this indicating that > > > > > the person will be from a good family and > > > > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9, > > > > > the mangal is srong in own house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in > > > > > D9... > > > > > > > > > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help; > > > > > > > > > > Date: > > > > > November 18, 1977 > > > > > Time: > > > > > 17:40:00 > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East > > > > > of GMT) > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 10 " , 26 > > > > > N 55' 10 " > > > > > jaipur, , USA > > > > > Altitude: 425.00 > > > > > meters > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > Gaurav Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, > > > > clean, sans-serif;} > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, > > > > clean, sans-serif;} > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > > > > > #ygrp-text{ > > > > > font-family: Georgia; > > > > > } > > > > > #ygrp-text p{ > > > > > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > > > > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > > > > > font-family: Arial; > > > > > clear:both;} > > > > > #ygrp-vitnav{ > > > > > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} > > > > > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > > > > > padding:0 1px;} > > > > > #ygrp-actbar{ > > > > > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- > > > > align:right; } > > > > > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > > > > > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > > > > > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > > > > > #ygrp-grft{ > > > > > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > > > > > #ygrp-ft{ > > > > > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; > > > > > padding:5px 0; > > > > > } > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > > > > > padding-bottom: 10px;} > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-vital{ > > > > > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px > > > > 8px;} > > > > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > > > > > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; > > > > color:#333; text-transform: uppercase; } > > > > > #ygrp-vital ul{ > > > > > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > > > > > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > > > > > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > > > > > } > > > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > > > > > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- > > > > align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > > > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > > > > > font-weight: bold;} > > > > > #ygrp-vital a { > > > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > > > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > > > > > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > > > > > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > > > > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > > > > > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > > > > > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > > > > > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > > > > > padding:8px 0;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > > > > > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size: > > > > 100%;line- height:122% ;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > > > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > > > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > > > > > margin:0;} > > > > > o {font-size:0; } > > > > > .MsoNormal { > > > > > margin:0 0 0 0;} > > > > > #ygrp-text tt{ > > > > > font-size:120% ;} > > > > > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > > > > > .replbq {margin:4;} > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > > > _________ _________ _________ > > > > > Never miss an email again! > > > > > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. > > > > > http://tools. search.. com/toolbar/ features/ mail/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Rafal, Namaskar. The Upapada in the 6th House from the AL and Venus in the 6th from the AL can show some distancing in the marriage. This is especially so because Venus is in the 12th House in the Navamsha. As you have pointed out, the great strength of the 2nd Lord from the UL protects the marriage, forming Dharmakarmadhipati Yoga in the Rashi Chart. The native knew the girl before marriage as the lord of UL, Sun is placed in the A7 in the 10th House. There is Jara Yoga. The Chandra Vimshottari Dasha of Guru from 1998 is promising. Guru is also giving Argala to Navamsha Lagna which is not fully obstructed by Rahu though Rahu gives Vipreeta Argala of its own. The Antardashas of Mercury and Ketu are promising as they give Argala to the 7th House in the Navamsha. Mercury gives Argala to the 7th Lord also. Annual TP of 2002-2003 appears unlikely to have given marriage. Annual TP of 2003-2004 is more likely as the Lagna rising in the TP Rashi Chart is Dhanu and the Hora Lord Mars is placed in the 7th House in the Navamsha. The thing is that with this time Guru is transiting Upapada and he may have met the spouse at this time in late 2003. The annual TP of 2004-2005 has Leo Lagna rising which is in trines to natal Lagna and indicates an auspicious event. The Hora Lord Moon is in the 7th House indicating marriage. In the Navamsha, the Moon is placed in the 9th House of Bhagya as the Hora Lord, though afflicted by Ketu. Ketu Antardasha runs in Vimshottari and gives Vipreeta Argala to the 7th House. Ketu is also the 7th Lord of the Navamsha. Jupiter transits the 2nd House from the UL. Maybe the marriage happened from 30th March, 2005 to 22nd May, 2005 in the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of the Hora Lord Moon. The Navamsha Narayan Dasha of Taurus would be running which is the Lagna. Marriage is possible. Marriage at about 30 is possible as retrograde Venus is in the UL in Rashi chart and in the 12th House in the Navamsha Chart. The AD of Libra and Scorpio are both possible. In the AD of Scorpio, the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of Mars would be on. Mars lords the Navamsha Lagna. So summer of 2005 appears to be a possibility. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com--- In , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hare rama krsna*> > Dear Jyotisha's!> > We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see this mail:> > *Quiz:*> > *September 17, 1975> Time: 14:19:43> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 19 E 50' 00", 54 N 23' 00"*> > Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house - they > meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to marriage and > he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). *Please > try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get > married*. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 and good > at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also).> > > Rasi Lagna - Dhanus.> *> Navamsa Lagna - Taurus*.> (*rectified* - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is also > working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona).> > > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> SJC Guru> www.rohinaa.com> (+48) 503 44 18 18> > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> >> > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> >> > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> >> > Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members,> >> > That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I > > think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in SJC and > > discussed on the Lists.> >> > I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and Navamsha but > > this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method in his > > paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas. > > Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful approach can > > be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures > > where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions.> >> > In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the native to > > commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing of this > > potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the Prashna and > > the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative > > approach in this regard.> >> > I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the > > relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, placed > > with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the > > Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very encouraging as > > Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the results of > > Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL placed in > > the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL.> >> > Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these > > matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be > > studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly help as it > > aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate events in > > this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP placed in > > UL in Rashi Chakra.> >> > Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in Navamsha and > > has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have unobstructed > > Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be a time > > for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari Dasha > > will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha.> >> > As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area of life > > appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the > > auspicious effects to come.> >> > Regards,> >> > Anurag Sharma> >> > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hare rama krsna*> > >> > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji> > >> > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like:> > >> > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA> > >> > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA (here are> > > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar touching the> > > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari and A7> > > in D9 technique.> > >> > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala)> > >> > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect this last> > > two, then You have many many dasas)> > >> > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa Pravesh > > Chakra> > >> > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit> > >> > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was > > recomended> > > so far> > >> > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play role as> > > confirmer> > >> > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc..> > >> > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our > > Narasimha> > > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or someone from> > > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please kindly share> > > experience with us which of these points are important and many others> > > You may know.> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz> > > SJC Guru> > > www.rohinaa. com> > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > >> > > Amit Puri napisaÅ,(a):> > > >> > > > !! Jai Ganesha !!> > > >> > > > * à¥?** * Ås(rÄ« MÄ?tre Namaḥ !> > > >> > > > Namskar Anurag ji> > > >> > > >> > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! âEUR¦Can we narrow > > down some> > > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ?> > > >> > > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week of July> > > > 2007âEUR¦ and having good shadbala and more positive contributing > > bindu> > > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? âEUR¦. > > Will> > > > wait for your comments> > > >> > > >> > > > Amit puri> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* <anuraagsharma27@> > > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27@ wrote:> > > >> > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > >> > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> > > >> > > > Dear Michal,> > > >> > > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the Karma of> > > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications.> > > >> > > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the person might> > > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the Lagnesh and> > > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is worse in> > > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the Karma> > > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also> > > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma.> > > >> > > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is> > > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, being> > > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed in an> > > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now.> > > >> > > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could show coming> > > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana> > > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of> > > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be remedied. If> > > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably> > > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results as the> > > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. Some of> > > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject through> > > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the Dasha and> > > > the significance of the various permutations and combinations of> > > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This> > > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am> > > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater> > > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the learned> > > > scholars.> > > >> > > > Best regards,> > > >> > > > Anurag Sharma> > > >> > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > < , Michal Dziwulski> > > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > > > >> > > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav,> > > > >> > > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that neither> > > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved.> > > > >> > > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her emotionally> > > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th from the> > > > Moon.> > > > >> > > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in Navamsa and> > > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this?> > > > >> > > > > Respectfully,> > > > > Michal> > > > >> > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ...> > > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com> > > > <sohamsa; Vedic Astrology List> > > > vedic astrology> > > > <vedic- astrology; Srijagannath> > > > < > > > >> > > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@> > > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a> > > > Desperate Girl> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya> > > > > Namah|> > > > >> > > > > |Om Lakshmyai> > > > > Namah|> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Gaurav,> > > > >> > > > > Namaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The most important facet of> > > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by the Graha> > > > Drishti of Rahu,> > > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the Naisargika Karaka> > > > of marriage,> > > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow and anger> > > > might manifest> > > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. The fact> > > > that Shukra is> > > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which invited the> > > > curse in the> > > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) was not> > > > done with the> > > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be severe.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The curse can be remedied as> > > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for Rahu.> > > > Also, the fact> > > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed strength to its> > > > > significations.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Donation of an idol of> > > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, donating a> > > > bed for their> > > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to attempt> > > > to come out of> > > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will> > > > affect her> > > > > intelligence and being directly.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The debilitated malefic Mars> > > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is> > > > conjoined the A7, a> > > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would have> > > > been a headstrong> > > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox disapproval at> > > > home (Shani in> > > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to> > > > marry the person> > > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. The 2nd> > > > Lord from the UL,> > > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada.> > > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; 20:39:13;> > > > Dehradun, India.> > > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines to the> > > > natal 2nd UL> > > > > Kumbha.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Your recommendation of> > > > > fasting is correct and essential.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > She should also propitiate> > > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be> > > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other Mantra.> > > > Else, start her> > > > > with 1 Mala.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The exaltation of Venus in> > > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > This aspect of life is not> > > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in> > > > Rashi is also in> > > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and this UL> > > > are not too badly> > > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL and the> > > > 2nd House from> > > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Best Wishes,> > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > >> > > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the> > > > > Articles page> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Aum Durgayai namah> > > > >> > > > > Namaste Gurus,> > > > >> > > > > Please find a request for> > > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get> > > > > married, but unable to find> > > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on> > > > > mondays (UL),> > > > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of> > > > > Jupiter> > > > > Mahadasa.> > > > >> > > > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and> > > > > other co lord> > > > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun,> > > > > all this indicating that> > > > > the person will be from a good family and> > > > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9,> > > > > the mangal is srong in own house.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in> > > > > D9...> > > > >> > > > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help;> > > > >> > > > > Date:> > > > > November 18, 1977> > > > > Time:> > > > > 17:40:00> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East> > > > > of GMT)> > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26> > > > > N 55' 10"> > > > > jaipur, , USA> > > > > Altitude: 425.00> > > > > meters> > > > >> > > > > Namaste> > > > > Gaurav Jain> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > <!--> > > > >> > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica,> > > > clean, sans-serif;}> > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;}> > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica,> > > > clean, sans-serif;}> > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;}> > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;}> > > > > #ygrp-text{> > > > > font-family: Georgia;> > > > > }> > > > > #ygrp-text p{> > > > > margin:0 0 1em 0;}> > > > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{> > > > > font-family: Arial;> > > > > clear:both;}> > > > > #ygrp-vitnav{> > > > > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;}> > > > > #ygrp-vitnav a{> > > > > padding:0 1px;}> > > > > #ygrp-actbar{> > > > > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text-> > > > align:right; }> > > > > #ygrp-actbar .left{> > > > > float:left;white- space:nowrap; }> > > > > .bld{font-weight: bold;}> > > > > #ygrp-grft{> > > > > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;}> > > > > #ygrp-ft{> > > > > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666;> > > > > padding:5px 0;> > > > > }> > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{> > > > > padding-bottom: 10px;}> > > > >> > > > > #ygrp-vital{> > > > > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px> > > > 8px;}> > > > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{> > > > > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold;> > > > color:#333; text-transform: uppercase; }> > > > > #ygrp-vital ul{> > > > > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;}> > > > > #ygrp-vital ul li{> > > > > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee;> > > > > }> > > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{> > > > > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text-> > > > align:right; padding-right: .5em;}> > > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{> > > > > font-weight: bold;}> > > > > #ygrp-vital a {> > > > > text-decoration: none;}> > > > >> > > > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{> > > > > text-decoration: underline; }> > > > >> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{> > > > > color:#999;font- size:77%; }> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{> > > > > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;}> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{> > > > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; }> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{> > > > > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;}> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{> > > > > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;}> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc {> > > > > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;}> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{> > > > > padding:8px 0;}> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{> > > > > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size:> > > > 100%;line- height:122% ;}> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{> > > > > text-decoration: none;}> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{> > > > > text-decoration: underline; }> > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{> > > > > margin:0;}> > > > > o {font-size:0; }> > > > > .MsoNormal {> > > > > margin:0 0 0 0;}> > > > > #ygrp-text tt{> > > > > font-size:120% ;}> > > > > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;}> > > > > .replbq {margin:4;}> > > > > -->> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________> > > > _________ _________ _________> > > > > Never miss an email again!> > > > > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives.> > > > > http://tools. search.. com/toolbar/ features/ mail/> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 hare rama krsna Dear Cheers and other's I will give the answer in Monday - so You have two days. Please give the method You were using in forecasting the marriage date. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Guru www.rohinaa.com (+48) 503 44 18 18 ashsam73 napisał(a): Dear Rafal, Did this native marry between oct 2003 and 2004 july. About 16th to 18th Nov 2003. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca @ . com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *hare rama krsna* > > Dear Jyotisha's! > > We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see this mail: > > *Quiz:* > > *September 17, 1975 > Time: 14:19:43 > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 19 E 50' 00", 54 N 23' 00"* > > Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house - they > meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to marriage and > he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). *Please > try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get > married*. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 and good > at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also). > > > Rasi Lagna - Dhanus. > * > Navamsa Lagna - Taurus*. > (*rectified* - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is also > working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona). > > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Guru > www.rohinaa. com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a): > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, > > > > That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I > > think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in SJC and > > discussed on the Lists. > > > > I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and Navamsha but > > this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method in his > > paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas. > > Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful approach can > > be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures > > where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions. > > > > In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the native to > > commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing of this > > potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the Prashna and > > the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative > > approach in this regard. > > > > I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the > > relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, placed > > with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the > > Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very encouraging as > > Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the results of > > Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL placed in > > the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL. > > > > Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these > > matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be > > studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly help as it > > aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate events in > > this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP placed in > > UL in Rashi Chakra. > > > > Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in Navamsha and > > has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have unobstructed > > Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be a time > > for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari Dasha > > will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha. > > > > As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area of life > > appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the > > auspicious effects to come. > > > > Regards, > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji > > > > > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like: > > > > > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA > > > > > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA (here are > > > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar touching the > > > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari and A7 > > > in D9 technique. > > > > > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala) > > > > > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect this last > > > two, then You have many many dasas) > > > > > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa Pravesh > > Chakra > > > > > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit > > > > > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was > > recomended > > > so far > > > > > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play role as > > > confirmer > > > > > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc.. > > > > > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our > > Narasimha > > > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or someone from > > > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please kindly share > > > experience with us which of these points are important and many others > > > You may know. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Guru > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > Amit Puri napisaÅ,(a): > > > > > > > > !! Jai Ganesha !! > > > > > > > > * à¥?** * Ås(rÄ« MÄ?tre Namaḥ ! > > > > > > > > Namskar Anurag ji > > > > > > > > > > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! âEUR¦Can we narrow > > down some > > > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > > > > > > > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week of July > > > > 2007âEUR¦ and having good shadbala and more positive contributing > > bindu > > > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? âEUR¦. > > Will > > > > wait for your comments > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit puri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* <anuraagsharma27@ > > > > hotmail.com <anuraagshar m a27@> wrote: > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the Karma of > > > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications. > > > > > > > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the person might > > > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the Lagnesh and > > > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is worse in > > > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the Karma > > > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also > > > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma. > > > > > > > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is > > > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, being > > > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed in an > > > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now. > > > > > > > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could show coming > > > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana > > > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of > > > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be remedied. If > > > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably > > > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results as the > > > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. Some of > > > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject through > > > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the Dasha and > > > > the significance of the various permutations and combinations of > > > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This > > > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am > > > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater > > > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the learned > > > > scholars. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h , Michal Dziwulski > > > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that neither > > > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved. > > > > > > > > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her emotionally > > > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th from the > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in Navamsa and > > > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this? > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ... > > > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com > > > > <sohamsa; Vedic Astrology List > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic- astrology; Srijagannath > > > > <srijagannat h > > > > > > > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@ > > > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a > > > > Desperate Girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya > > > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai > > > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most important facet of > > > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by the Graha > > > > Drishti of Rahu, > > > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the Naisargika Karaka > > > > of marriage, > > > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow and anger > > > > might manifest > > > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. The fact > > > > that Shukra is > > > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which invited the > > > > curse in the > > > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) was not > > > > done with the > > > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The curse can be remedied as > > > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for Rahu. > > > > Also, the fact > > > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed strength to its > > > > > significations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donation of an idol of > > > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, donating a > > > > bed for their > > > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to attempt > > > > to come out of > > > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will > > > > affect her > > > > > intelligence and being directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The debilitated malefic Mars > > > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is > > > > conjoined the A7, a > > > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would have > > > > been a headstrong > > > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox disapproval at > > > > home (Shani in > > > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to > > > > marry the person > > > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. The 2nd > > > > Lord from the UL, > > > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada. > > > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; 20:39:13; > > > > Dehradun, India. > > > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines to the > > > > natal 2nd UL > > > > > Kumbha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your recommendation of > > > > > fasting is correct and essential. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She should also propitiate > > > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be > > > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other Mantra. > > > > Else, start her > > > > > with 1 Mala. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The exaltation of Venus in > > > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This aspect of life is not > > > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in > > > > Rashi is also in > > > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and this UL > > > > are not too badly > > > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL and the > > > > 2nd House from > > > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the > > > > > Articles page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai namah > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Gurus, > > > > > > > > > > Please find a request for > > > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get > > > > > married, but unable to find > > > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on > > > > > mondays (UL), > > > > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > Mahadasa. > > > > > > > > > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and > > > > > other co lord > > > > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun, > > > > > all this indicating that > > > > > the person will be from a good family and > > > > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9, > > > > > the mangal is srong in own house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in > > > > > D9... > > > > > > > > > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help; > > > > > > > > > > Date: > > > > > November 18, 1977 > > > > > Time: > > > > > 17:40:00 > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East > > > > > of GMT) > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26 > > > > > N 55' 10" > > > > > jaipur, , USA > > > > > Altitude: 425.00 > > > > > meters > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > Gaurav Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, > > > > clean, sans-serif;} > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, > > > > clean, sans-serif;} > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > > > > > #ygrp-text{ > > > > > font-family: Georgia; > > > > > } > > > > > #ygrp-text p{ > > > > > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > > > > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > > > > > font-family: Arial; > > > > > clear:both;} > > > > > #ygrp-vitnav{ > > > > > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} > > > > > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > > > > > padding:0 1px;} > > > > > #ygrp-actbar{ > > > > > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- > > > > align:right; } > > > > > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > > > > > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > > > > > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > > > > > #ygrp-grft{ > > > > > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > > > > > #ygrp-ft{ > > > > > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; > > > > > padding:5px 0; > > > > > } > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > > > > > padding-bottom: 10px;} > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-vital{ > > > > > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px > > > > 8px;} > > > > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > > > > > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; > > > > color:#333; text-transform: uppercase; } > > > > > #ygrp-vital ul{ > > > > > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > > > > > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > > > > > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > > > > > } > > > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > > > > > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- > > > > align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > > > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > > > > > font-weight: bold;} > > > > > #ygrp-vital a { > > > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > > > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > > > > > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > > > > > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > > > > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > > > > > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > > > > > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > > > > > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > > > > > padding:8px 0;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > > > > > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size: > > > > 100%;line- height:122% ;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > > > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > > > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > > > > > margin:0;} > > > > > o {font-size:0; } > > > > > .MsoNormal { > > > > > margin:0 0 0 0;} > > > > > #ygrp-text tt{ > > > > > font-size:120% ;} > > > > > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > > > > > .replbq {margin:4;} > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > > > _________ _________ _________ > > > > > Never miss an email again! > > > > > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. > > > > > http://tools. search.. com/toolbar/ features/ mail/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 hare rama krsna Dear Anuragji, Yes..thank You for the background beside Your tries. Please decide for the one data, because that will be what the client will want from You in the reading - one good try. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Guru www.rohinaa.com (+48) 503 44 18 18 Anurag Sharma napisał(a): |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Rafal, Namaskar. The Upapada in the 6th House from the AL and Venus in the 6th from the AL can show some distancing in the marriage. This is especially so because Venus is in the 12th House in the Navamsha. As you have pointed out, the great strength of the 2nd Lord from the UL protects the marriage, forming Dharmakarmadhipati Yoga in the Rashi Chart. The native knew the girl before marriage as the lord of UL, Sun is placed in the A7 in the 10th House. There is Jara Yoga. The Chandra Vimshottari Dasha of Guru from 1998 is promising. Guru is also giving Argala to Navamsha Lagna which is not fully obstructed by Rahu though Rahu gives Vipreeta Argala of its own. The Antardashas of Mercury and Ketu are promising as they give Argala to the 7th House in the Navamsha. Mercury gives Argala to the 7th Lord also. Annual TP of 2002-2003 appears unlikely to have given marriage. Annual TP of 2003-2004 is more likely as the Lagna rising in the TP Rashi Chart is Dhanu and the Hora Lord Mars is placed in the 7th House in the Navamsha. The thing is that with this time Guru is transiting Upapada and he may have met the spouse at this time in late 2003. The annual TP of 2004-2005 has Leo Lagna rising which is in trines to natal Lagna and indicates an auspicious event. The Hora Lord Moon is in the 7th House indicating marriage. In the Navamsha, the Moon is placed in the 9th House of Bhagya as the Hora Lord, though afflicted by Ketu. Ketu Antardasha runs in Vimshottari and gives Vipreeta Argala to the 7th House. Ketu is also the 7th Lord of the Navamsha. Jupiter transits the 2nd House from the UL. Maybe the marriage happened from 30th March, 2005 to 22nd May, 2005 in the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of the Hora Lord Moon. The Navamsha Narayan Dasha of Taurus would be running which is the Lagna. Marriage is possible. Marriage at about 30 is possible as retrograde Venus is in the UL in Rashi chart and in the 12th House in the Navamsha Chart. The AD of Libra and Scorpio are both possible. In the AD of Scorpio, the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of Mars would be on. Mars lords the Navamsha Lagna. So summer of 2005 appears to be a possibility. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ....> wrote: > > *hare rama krsna* > > Dear Jyotisha's! > > We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see this mail: > > *Quiz:* > > *September 17, 1975 > Time: 14:19:43 > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 19 E 50' 00", 54 N 23' 00"* > > Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house - they > meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to marriage and > he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). *Please > try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get > married*. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 and good > at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also). > > > Rasi Lagna - Dhanus. > * > Navamsa Lagna - Taurus*. > (*rectified* - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is also > working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona). > > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Guru > www.rohinaa. com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a): > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, > > > > That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I > > think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in SJC and > > discussed on the Lists. > > > > I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and Navamsha but > > this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method in his > > paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas. > > Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful approach can > > be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures > > where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions. > > > > In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the native to > > commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing of this > > potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the Prashna and > > the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative > > approach in this regard. > > > > I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the > > relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, placed > > with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the > > Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very encouraging as > > Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the results of > > Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL placed in > > the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL. > > > > Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these > > matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be > > studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly help as it > > aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate events in > > this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP placed in > > UL in Rashi Chakra. > > > > Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in Navamsha and > > has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have unobstructed > > Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be a time > > for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari Dasha > > will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha. > > > > As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area of life > > appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the > > auspicious effects to come. > > > > Regards, > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji > > > > > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like: > > > > > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA > > > > > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA (here are > > > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar touching the > > > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari and A7 > > > in D9 technique. > > > > > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala) > > > > > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect this last > > > two, then You have many many dasas) > > > > > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa Pravesh > > Chakra > > > > > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit > > > > > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was > > recomended > > > so far > > > > > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play role as > > > confirmer > > > > > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc.. > > > > > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our > > Narasimha > > > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or someone from > > > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please kindly share > > > experience with us which of these points are important and many others > > > You may know. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Guru > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > Amit Puri napisaÅ,(a): > > > > > > > > !! Jai Ganesha !! > > > > > > > > * à¥?** * Ås(rÄ« MÄ?tre Namaḥ ! > > > > > > > > Namskar Anurag ji > > > > > > > > > > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! âEUR¦Can we narrow > > down some > > > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > > > > > > > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week of July > > > > 2007âEUR¦ and having good shadbala and more positive contributing > > bindu > > > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? âEUR¦. > > Will > > > > wait for your comments > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit puri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* <anuraagsharma27@ > > > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27@ wrote: > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the Karma of > > > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications. > > > > > > > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the person might > > > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the Lagnesh and > > > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is worse in > > > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the Karma > > > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also > > > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma. > > > > > > > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is > > > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, being > > > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed in an > > > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now. > > > > > > > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could show coming > > > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana > > > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of > > > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be remedied. If > > > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably > > > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results as the > > > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. Some of > > > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject through > > > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the Dasha and > > > > the significance of the various permutations and combinations of > > > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This > > > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am > > > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater > > > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the learned > > > > scholars. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < , Michal Dziwulski > > > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that neither > > > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved. > > > > > > > > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her emotionally > > > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th from the > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in Navamsa and > > > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this? > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ... > > > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com > > > > <sohamsa; Vedic Astrology List > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic- astrology; Srijagannath > > > > < > > > > > > > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@ > > > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a > > > > Desperate Girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya > > > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai > > > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most important facet of > > > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by the Graha > > > > Drishti of Rahu, > > > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the Naisargika Karaka > > > > of marriage, > > > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow and anger > > > > might manifest > > > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. The fact > > > > that Shukra is > > > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which invited the > > > > curse in the > > > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) was not > > > > done with the > > > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The curse can be remedied as > > > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for Rahu. > > > > Also, the fact > > > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed strength to its > > > > > significations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donation of an idol of > > > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, donating a > > > > bed for their > > > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to attempt > > > > to come out of > > > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will > > > > affect her > > > > > intelligence and being directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The debilitated malefic Mars > > > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is > > > > conjoined the A7, a > > > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would have > > > > been a headstrong > > > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox disapproval at > > > > home (Shani in > > > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to > > > > marry the person > > > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. The 2nd > > > > Lord from the UL, > > > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada. > > > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; 20:39:13; > > > > Dehradun, India. > > > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines to the > > > > natal 2nd UL > > > > > Kumbha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your recommendation of > > > > > fasting is correct and essential. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She should also propitiate > > > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be > > > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other Mantra. > > > > Else, start her > > > > > with 1 Mala. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The exaltation of Venus in > > > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This aspect of life is not > > > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in > > > > Rashi is also in > > > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and this UL > > > > are not too badly > > > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL and the > > > > 2nd House from > > > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the > > > > > Articles page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai namah > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Gurus, > > > > > > > > > > Please find a request for > > > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get > > > > > married, but unable to find > > > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on > > > > > mondays (UL), > > > > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > Mahadasa. > > > > > > > > > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and > > > > > other co lord > > > > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun, > > > > > all this indicating that > > > > > the person will be from a good family and > > > > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9, > > > > > the mangal is srong in own house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in > > > > > D9... > > > > > > > > > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help; > > > > > > > > > > Date: > > > > > November 18, 1977 > > > > > Time: > > > > > 17:40:00 > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East > > > > > of GMT) > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26 > > > > > N 55' 10" > > > > > jaipur, , USA > > > > > Altitude: 425.00 > > > > > meters > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > Gaurav Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, > > > > clean, sans-serif;} > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, > > > > clean, sans-serif;} > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > > > > > #ygrp-text{ > > > > > font-family: Georgia; > > > > > } > > > > > #ygrp-text p{ > > > > > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > > > > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > > > > > font-family: Arial; > > > > > clear:both;} > > > > > #ygrp-vitnav{ > > > > > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} > > > > > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > > > > > padding:0 1px;} > > > > > #ygrp-actbar{ > > > > > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- > > > > align:right; } > > > > > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > > > > > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > > > > > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > > > > > #ygrp-grft{ > > > > > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > > > > > #ygrp-ft{ > > > > > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; > > > > > padding:5px 0; > > > > > } > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > > > > > padding-bottom: 10px;} > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-vital{ > > > > > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px > > > > 8px;} > > > > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > > > > > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; > > > > color:#333; text-transform: uppercase; } > > > > > #ygrp-vital ul{ > > > > > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > > > > > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > > > > > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > > > > > } > > > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > > > > > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- > > > > align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > > > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > > > > > font-weight: bold;} > > > > > #ygrp-vital a { > > > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > > > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > > > > > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > > > > > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > > > > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > > > > > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > > > > > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > > > > > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > > > > > padding:8px 0;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > > > > > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size: > > > > 100%;line- height:122% ;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > > > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > > > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > > > > > margin:0;} > > > > > o {font-size:0; } > > > > > .MsoNormal { > > > > > margin:0 0 0 0;} > > > > > #ygrp-text tt{ > > > > > font-size:120% ;} > > > > > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > > > > > .replbq {margin:4;} > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > > > _________ _________ _________ > > > > > Never miss an email again! > > > > > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. > > > > > http://tools. search.. com/toolbar/ features/ mail/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 Dear Rafal, Its Ash and not Cheers :-). The method is based on KAS. If the answer is in ball park, I will give my detailed approach on how I have reached this time frame. If its not, I shall learn. I look forward to the answer. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hare rama krsna* > > Dear Cheers and other's > > I will give the answer in Monday - so You have two days. > > Please give the method You were using in forecasting the marriage date. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Guru > www.rohinaa.com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > ashsam73 napisa?(a): > > > > Dear Rafal, > > Did this native marry between oct 2003 and 2004 july. > > About 16th to 18th Nov 2003. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > Dear Jyotisha's! > > > > > > We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see > > this mail: > > > > > > *Quiz:* > > > > > > *September 17, 1975 > > > Time: 14:19:43 > > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 19 E 50' 00 " , 54 N 23' 00 " * > > > > > > Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house - they > > > meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to marriage and > > > he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). *Please > > > try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get > > > married*. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 and good > > > at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also). > > > > > > > > > Rasi Lagna - Dhanus. > > > * > > > Navamsa Lagna - Taurus*. > > > (*rectified* - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is > > also > > > working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona). > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Guru > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, > > > > > > > > That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I > > > > think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in SJC > > and > > > > discussed on the Lists. > > > > > > > > I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and Navamsha but > > > > this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method in his > > > > paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas. > > > > Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful approach can > > > > be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures > > > > where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions. > > > > > > > > In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the > > native to > > > > commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing of this > > > > potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the Prashna and > > > > the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative > > > > approach in this regard. > > > > > > > > I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the > > > > relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, placed > > > > with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the > > > > Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very encouraging as > > > > Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the > > results of > > > > Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL placed in > > > > the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL. > > > > > > > > Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these > > > > matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be > > > > studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly help as it > > > > aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate events in > > > > this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP > > placed in > > > > UL in Rashi Chakra. > > > > > > > > Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in Navamsha > > and > > > > has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have unobstructed > > > > Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be a time > > > > for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari > > Dasha > > > > will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha. > > > > > > > > As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area of life > > > > appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the > > > > auspicious effects to come. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji > > > > > > > > > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like: > > > > > > > > > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA > > > > > > > > > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA > > (here are > > > > > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar > > touching the > > > > > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari > > and A7 > > > > > in D9 technique. > > > > > > > > > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala) > > > > > > > > > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect this last > > > > > two, then You have many many dasas) > > > > > > > > > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa Pravesh > > > > Chakra > > > > > > > > > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit > > > > > > > > > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was > > > > recomended > > > > > so far > > > > > > > > > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play > > role as > > > > > confirmer > > > > > > > > > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc.. > > > > > > > > > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our > > > > Narasimha > > > > > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or someone from > > > > > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please > > kindly share > > > > > experience with us which of these points are important and many > > others > > > > > You may know. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > SJC Guru > > > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > > > > > Amit Puri napisaÅ,(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > !! Jai Ganesha !! > > > > > > > > > > > > * à¥?** * Ås(rÄ« MÄ?tre Namaḥ ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Namskar Anurag ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! âEUR¦Can we narrow > > > > down some > > > > > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > > > > > > > > > > > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week > > of July > > > > > > 2007âEUR¦ and having good shadbala and more positive contributing > > > > bindu > > > > > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? > > âEUR¦. > > > > Will > > > > > > wait for your comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit puri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* <anuraagsharma27@ > > > > > > hotmail.com <anuraagshar m a27@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the Karma of > > > > > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications. > > > > > > > > > > > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the person might > > > > > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the Lagnesh and > > > > > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is worse in > > > > > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the Karma > > > > > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also > > > > > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is > > > > > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, being > > > > > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed in an > > > > > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now. > > > > > > > > > > > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could show coming > > > > > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana > > > > > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of > > > > > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be remedied. If > > > > > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably > > > > > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results as the > > > > > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. Some of > > > > > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject through > > > > > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the Dasha and > > > > > > the significance of the various permutations and combinations of > > > > > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This > > > > > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am > > > > > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater > > > > > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the learned > > > > > > scholars. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h , Michal Dziwulski > > > > > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that > > neither > > > > > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her emotionally > > > > > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th from the > > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in Navamsa and > > > > > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ... > > > > > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > <sohamsa; Vedic Astrology List > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > <vedic- astrology; Srijagannath > > > > > > <srijagannat h > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@ > > > > > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM > > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a > > > > > > Desperate Girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya > > > > > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai > > > > > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most important facet of > > > > > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by the Graha > > > > > > Drishti of Rahu, > > > > > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the Naisargika Karaka > > > > > > of marriage, > > > > > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow and anger > > > > > > might manifest > > > > > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. The fact > > > > > > that Shukra is > > > > > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which invited the > > > > > > curse in the > > > > > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) > > was not > > > > > > done with the > > > > > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be > > severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The curse can be remedied as > > > > > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for Rahu. > > > > > > Also, the fact > > > > > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed strength > > to its > > > > > > > significations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donation of an idol of > > > > > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, donating a > > > > > > bed for their > > > > > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to attempt > > > > > > to come out of > > > > > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will > > > > > > affect her > > > > > > > intelligence and being directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The debilitated malefic Mars > > > > > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is > > > > > > conjoined the A7, a > > > > > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would have > > > > > > been a headstrong > > > > > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox disapproval at > > > > > > home (Shani in > > > > > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to > > > > > > marry the person > > > > > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. The 2nd > > > > > > Lord from the UL, > > > > > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada. > > > > > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; 20:39:13; > > > > > > Dehradun, India. > > > > > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines to the > > > > > > natal 2nd UL > > > > > > > Kumbha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your recommendation of > > > > > > > fasting is correct and essential. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She should also propitiate > > > > > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be > > > > > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other Mantra. > > > > > > Else, start her > > > > > > > with 1 Mala. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The exaltation of Venus in > > > > > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This aspect of life is not > > > > > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in > > > > > > Rashi is also in > > > > > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and this UL > > > > > > are not too badly > > > > > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL and the > > > > > > 2nd House from > > > > > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the > > > > > > > Articles page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Gurus, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please find a request for > > > > > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get > > > > > > > married, but unable to find > > > > > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on > > > > > > > mondays (UL), > > > > > > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > Mahadasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and > > > > > > > other co lord > > > > > > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun, > > > > > > > all this indicating that > > > > > > > the person will be from a good family and > > > > > > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9, > > > > > > > the mangal is srong in own house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in > > > > > > > D9... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: > > > > > > > November 18, 1977 > > > > > > > Time: > > > > > > > 17:40:00 > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East > > > > > > > of GMT) > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 10 " , 26 > > > > > > > N 55' 10 " > > > > > > > jaipur, , USA > > > > > > > Altitude: 425.00 > > > > > > > meters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > Gaurav Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; 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Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 hare rama krsna Dear Anuragji, Yes..in COVA Sanjayji states that Vimshottari can give many options, so there is Upadesa to work with Narayana, but if You did some reading then You will also see (and there is also some example in COVA I suppose) that Bhaya Rasi can also give marriage. Of course then Sanjayji states many other confirmations like to see Dasa Rasi from : a) Moon b) AL c) Darakaraka/Venus..and I found this quite problematic as I saw some charts when the Dasa Rasi of marriage was 6 from AL etc. #1 That is one group of methods which all are welcomed to comment. Next : # 2 How is Your experience with Narayana Dasa in D9 (of course counting from seventh lord)? Which points are You using? I found that Dasa Rasi in Kendra to Surya activates relationships. Example: June 24, 1983 Time: 18:57:01 Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 19 E 03' 10", 50 N 17' 10" * Here the Ta-Ge period give relationship (2nd Upapada). Ge is in kendra & aspected by Sun and 2H (2nd relation). It was shortlasted because of 8H position of starting (Ge is eight bhava) & the native was accused of being not responsible enough(3L in Lagna - Sani). But for example in next period of CN - which is 3nd relation (9 house) native hasnt any relationship..one can say that there is 8L, but in 8H period there was relationship (Ge)..maybe Moon in sixth with Ketu was too strong combo. Now is Leo he is very desirous of relationship (Ve in seventh) and there is aspect of A9 (third relation)..its also Kendra to Mahadasa. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Guru www.rohinaa.com (+48) 503 44 18 18 Anurag Sharma napisał(a): |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Rafal, Quite true. I agree. Logically, this is an eminent possibility and in that case the present quiz will be remarkably similar if not identical to that situation. So, the best thing to do would be, no matter how hard it is, to explore whatever periods appear likely and pick one out of those. The benefit in this kind of an exercise is that the 'tools' of analysis are refreshed even though the factual answer may or may not be correct. There is an element of irony in this situation for me. In my own horoscope, which I examine quite frequently, and accomplished Jyotishis on this List and elsewhere have analysed the chart too, so many divergent opinions seem to come out even regarding the static aspects of marriage. Of course, just as the Jyotishi cannot pose his own queries and answer his own Prashna: Sanjay Ji says it does not work that way, even others have a different take based on the same Yogas. And this is about static aspects. Timing is even tougher I guess. Regarding Vimshottari, I think I recall Sanjay Ji writing in COVA in one chart that Vimshottari gave so many possible periods of marrige that it was only Narayan Dasha that could be relied on. I am not certain but perhaps that was the chart of his first wife. So, I agree with you about your views on the Vimshottari. The solemnization of the marriage might not be seen from this Dasha. At least not as a rule, as it is mind centric and can show emotional stimuli and reactions that may go on to constitute courtship. In a lighter vein, and after agreeing with you, if a 17 year old would come to me about his marriage, I would advise him to focus on his studies instead, much as we do not analyse Prashna elaborately when it does not satisfy the rules. No, but more seriously, we have to grapple with this problem of identifying possible periods for marriage. In all the books that we read, it is always about possible periods rather than a very definite period. Many planets and periods seem to become candidates and finally you pick the best or a couple of the best. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ....> wrote: > > *hare rama krsna* > > Dear Anuragji, > > #1 This quiz rather is more similar to situation when the parents of > child comes to You as Daivajna and ask this question when the person > will get married, this of course can be important to manage reasonably > the years in life with events. In my history I see that timing of > marriage is very hard task because it also appeals to the official side > of the relationship, Vimshottari used with D9 can show us clearly when > one will meet the partner=dating, but the final decision to marry can be > not so simply seen. Especially when no yajna is conducted. > > #2 THEREFORE: I see no special difference between this quiz and reading > in live. Because the client will ask You when He will marry (and all > Jyotisha's know - its very often question coming from the clients) - so > just imagine this person comes to You at age of 17 and ask You for reading. > > #3 In the monday I will give the answer. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Guru > www.rohinaa. com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Anurag Sharma napisaÅ‚(a): > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > Namaskar. > > > > But I have given the probable time as summer of 2005. Now just a > > thought about how clients want readings. See, in a quiz on marriage, > > for someone born in 1975, you have a very large segment of years in > > which the person can get married. In COVA, Sanjay Ji takes this > > approach. See, before starting the Jyotish analysis, when the native > > might get married based on his or her age and in the Desh-Kal-Patra. > > For example, when child marriage was in vogue in India, this exercise > > would have been many times tougher. > > > > When a client actually wants a reading, say today, the Jyotishi has > > the luxury of not looking at the past for possible times of marriage. > > Of course, the native may have been married before etc and all that > > can be seen or coupled with feedback.So, there is an inherent > > difference between a live reading for the client and a Jyotish > > exercise of this sort. > > > > Marriage analysis can even be distinguished say from Saptamsha > > analysis in the static sense, when one is trying to glean the number > > of progeny. That one may do even in the horoscope of a child. Timing > > is a different issue. So, what the client wants is an issue that > > stands on a quite different footing. > > > > In my email, I have given a very small window which appears to me to > > be a likely period. One that came out was March-May, 2005. But the AD > > of Scorpio follows in the Navamsha Narayan Dasha. I suppose you are > > asking me to choose between these two periods. Scorpio being the 7th > > House in the Navamsha becomes a stronger candidate than Libra to give > > the marriage. March-December as Ketu AD in the Vimshottari runs till > > 1st December, 2005. So maybe the period from 15.6.2005 to 1.12.2005 > > comes out to be a more likely period. > > > > The Gochar of Guru in the 2nd from Upapada is another factor that is a > > positive for this set of timing. > > > > If you notice, the Hora Lord for two successive TP charts is linked > > with the 7th House in either Rashi or Navamsha. > > > > Regards, > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > Dear Anuragji, > > > > > > Yes..thank You for the background beside Your tries. Please decide for > > > the one data, because that will be what the client will want from > > You in > > > the reading - one good try. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Guru > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > The Upapada in the 6th House from the AL and Venus in the 6th from > > the > > > > AL can show some distancing in the marriage. This is especially so > > > > because Venus is in the 12th House in the Navamsha. As you have > > > > pointed out, the great strength of the 2nd Lord from the UL protects > > > > the marriage, forming Dharmakarmadhipati Yoga in the Rashi Chart. > > > > > > > > The native knew the girl before marriage as the lord of UL, Sun is > > > > placed in the A7 in the 10th House. There is Jara Yoga. > > > > > > > > The Chandra Vimshottari Dasha of Guru from 1998 is promising. Guru is > > > > also giving Argala to Navamsha Lagna which is not fully obstructed by > > > > Rahu though Rahu gives Vipreeta Argala of its own. > > > > > > > > The Antardashas of Mercury and Ketu are promising as they give Argala > > > > to the 7th House in the Navamsha. Mercury gives Argala to the 7th > > Lord > > > > also. > > > > > > > > Annual TP of 2002-2003 appears unlikely to have given marriage. > > Annual > > > > TP of 2003-2004 is more likely as the Lagna rising in the TP Rashi > > > > Chart is Dhanu and the Hora Lord Mars is placed in the 7th House in > > > > the Navamsha. > > > > > > > > The thing is that with this time Guru is transiting Upapada and he > > may > > > > have met the spouse at this time in late 2003. > > > > > > > > The annual TP of 2004-2005 has Leo Lagna rising which is in trines to > > > > natal Lagna and indicates an auspicious event. The Hora Lord Moon is > > > > in the 7th House indicating marriage. In the Navamsha, the Moon is > > > > placed in the 9th House of Bhagya as the Hora Lord, though afflicted > > > > by Ketu. Ketu Antardasha runs in Vimshottari and gives Vipreeta > > Argala > > > > to the 7th House. Ketu is also the 7th Lord of the Navamsha. > > > > > > > > Jupiter transits the 2nd House from the UL. > > > > > > > > Maybe the marriage happened from 30th March, 2005 to 22nd May, > > 2005 in > > > > the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of the Hora Lord Moon. > > > > > > > > The Navamsha Narayan Dasha of Taurus would be running which is the > > > > Lagna. Marriage is possible. > > > > > > > > Marriage at about 30 is possible as retrograde Venus is in the UL in > > > > Rashi chart and in the 12th House in the Navamsha Chart. > > > > > > > > The AD of Libra and Scorpio are both possible. In the AD of Scorpio, > > > > the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of Mars would be on. Mars lords the > > > > Navamsha Lagna. So summer of 2005 appears to be a possibility. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > <http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com/> > > > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jyotisha's! > > > > > > > > > > We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see > > > > this mail: > > > > > > > > > > *Quiz:* > > > > > > > > > > *September 17, 1975 > > > > > Time: 14:19:43 > > > > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > Place: 19 E 50' 00", 54 N 23' 00"* > > > > > > > > > > Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house > > - they > > > > > meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to > > marriage and > > > > > he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). > > *Please > > > > > try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get > > > > > married*. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 > > and good > > > > > at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rasi Lagna - Dhanus. > > > > > * > > > > > Navamsa Lagna - Taurus*. > > > > > (*rectified* - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is > > > > also > > > > > working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > SJC Guru > > > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, > > > > > > > > > > > > That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I > > > > > > think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in > > SJC > > > > and > > > > > > discussed on the Lists. > > > > > > > > > > > > I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and > > Navamsha but > > > > > > this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method > > in his > > > > > > paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas. > > > > > > Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful > > approach can > > > > > > be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's > > lectures > > > > > > where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the > > > > native to > > > > > > commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing > > of this > > > > > > potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the > > Prashna and > > > > > > the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative > > > > > > approach in this regard. > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the > > > > > > relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, > > placed > > > > > > with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the > > > > > > Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very > > encouraging as > > > > > > Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the > > > > results of > > > > > > Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL > > placed in > > > > > > the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL. > > > > > > > > > > > > Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these > > > > > > matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be > > > > > > studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly > > help as it > > > > > > aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate > > events in > > > > > > this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP > > > > placed in > > > > > > UL in Rashi Chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in > > Navamsha > > > > and > > > > > > has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have > > unobstructed > > > > > > Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be > > a time > > > > > > for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari > > > > Dasha > > > > > > will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area > > of life > > > > > > appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the > > > > > > auspicious effects to come. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA > > > > (here are > > > > > > > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar > > > > touching the > > > > > > > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari > > > > and A7 > > > > > > > in D9 technique. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect > > this last > > > > > > > two, then You have many many dasas) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa > > Pravesh > > > > > > Chakra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was > > > > > > recomended > > > > > > > so far > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play > > > > role as > > > > > > > confirmer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or > > someone from > > > > > > > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please > > > > kindly share > > > > > > > experience with us which of these points are important and many > > > > others > > > > > > > You may know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > SJC Guru > > > > > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit Puri napisaÃ…,(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > !! Jai Ganesha !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * à ¥?** * Ã…s(rÄ« MÄ?tre Namaḥ ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namskar Anurag ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! âEUR¦Can we > > narrow > > > > > > down some > > > > > > > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week > > > > of July > > > > > > > > 2007âEUR¦ and having good shadbala and more positive > > contributing > > > > > > bindu > > > > > > > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? > > > > âEUR¦. > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > > wait for your comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit puri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* > > <anuraagsharma27@ > > > > > > > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the > > Karma of > > > > > > > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the > > person might > > > > > > > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the > > Lagnesh and > > > > > > > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is > > worse in > > > > > > > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the > > Karma > > > > > > > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also > > > > > > > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is > > > > > > > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, > > being > > > > > > > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed > > in an > > > > > > > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could > > show coming > > > > > > > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana > > > > > > > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of > > > > > > > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be > > remedied. If > > > > > > > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably > > > > > > > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results > > as the > > > > > > > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. > > Some of > > > > > > > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject > > through > > > > > > > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the > > Dasha and > > > > > > > > the significance of the various permutations and > > combinations of > > > > > > > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This > > > > > > > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am > > > > > > > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater > > > > > > > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the > > learned > > > > > > > > scholars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @ . com > > > > > > > > < , Michal Dziwulski > > > > > > > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that > > > > neither > > > > > > > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her > > emotionally > > > > > > > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th > > from the > > > > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in > > Navamsa and > > > > > > > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ... > > > > > > > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > <sohamsa@ . com; Vedic Astrology List > > > > > > > > vedic astrology@ . com > > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology@ . com; Srijagannath > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@ > > > > > > > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM > > > > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a > > > > > > > > Desperate Girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya > > > > > > > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai > > > > > > > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most important facet of > > > > > > > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by > > the Graha > > > > > > > > Drishti of Rahu, > > > > > > > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the > > Naisargika Karaka > > > > > > > > of marriage, > > > > > > > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow > > and anger > > > > > > > > might manifest > > > > > > > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. > > The fact > > > > > > > > that Shukra is > > > > > > > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which > > invited the > > > > > > > > curse in the > > > > > > > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) > > > > was not > > > > > > > > done with the > > > > > > > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be > > > > severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The curse can be remedied as > > > > > > > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > Also, the fact > > > > > > > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed > > strength > > > > to its > > > > > > > > > significations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donation of an idol of > > > > > > > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, > > donating a > > > > > > > > bed for their > > > > > > > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to > > attempt > > > > > > > > to come out of > > > > > > > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will > > > > > > > > affect her > > > > > > > > > intelligence and being directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The debilitated malefic Mars > > > > > > > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is > > > > > > > > conjoined the A7, a > > > > > > > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would > > have > > > > > > > > been a headstrong > > > > > > > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox > > disapproval at > > > > > > > > home (Shani in > > > > > > > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to > > > > > > > > marry the person > > > > > > > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. > > The 2nd > > > > > > > > Lord from the UL, > > > > > > > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada. > > > > > > > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; > > 20:39:13; > > > > > > > > Dehradun, India. > > > > > > > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines > > to the > > > > > > > > natal 2nd UL > > > > > > > > > Kumbha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your recommendation of > > > > > > > > > fasting is correct and essential. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She should also propitiate > > > > > > > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be > > > > > > > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other > > Mantra. > > > > > > > > Else, start her > > > > > > > > > with 1 Mala. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The exaltation of Venus in > > > > > > > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This aspect of life is not > > > > > > > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in > > > > > > > > Rashi is also in > > > > > > > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and > > this UL > > > > > > > > are not too badly > > > > > > > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL > > and the > > > > > > > > 2nd House from > > > > > > > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the > > > > > > > > > Articles page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Gurus, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please find a request for > > > > > > > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get > > > > > > > > > married, but unable to find > > > > > > > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on > > > > > > > > > mondays (UL), > > > > > > > > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of > > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > Mahadasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and > > > > > > > > > other co lord > > > > > > > > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun, > > > > > > > > > all this indicating that > > > > > > > > > the person will be from a good family and > > > > > > > > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9, > > > > > > > > > the mangal is srong in own house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in > > > > > > > > > D9... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: > > > > > > > > > November 18, 1977 > > > > > > > > > Time: > > > > > > > > > 17:40:00 > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East > > > > > > > > > of GMT) > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26 > > > > > > > > > N 55' 10" > > > > > > > > > jaipur, , USA > > > > > > > > > Altitude: 425.00 > > > > > > > > > meters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > Gaurav Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; 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Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 hare rama krsna Dear Amitji, Thank You..as You know in Monday I will give the answer. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Guru www.rohinaa.com (+48) 503 44 18 18 Amit Puri napisaÅ‚(a): !! Jai Ganesha !! ॠŚrÄ« MÄtre Namaḥ!  Namskar Rafal ji Rafal ji thanks for sending such a interesting chart  There are very less chances of early marriage or bala vivha due to the following reason. The Upapada lagan lord in sankranti dosh.. The person is born on Wednesday so the 7th and 10th house come under chk and the day  lord joined Sun in 10th house.. The 7th lord from venus in Ayush debility in 12th house i.e rahu in Vrischika .. Kartari on 7th house…   These are major issue will help for future marital and profession prediction also..  So I am looking after 24 year for getting marriage and I found following dasa for marriage..  Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):  Pi MD: 1990-09-17 (10:33:60 am) - 2002-09-17 (12:22:27 pm)  Li AD: 2001-09-17 (6:16:09 am) - 2002-09-17 (12:22:27 pm)   Ta PD: 2002-06-15 (5:34:34 pm) - 2002-07-17 (4:23:54 am)  High lighted portion i.e 15-6-2002 to 17-7-2002... considering as marriage period.. I applied one simple rule of Naryana dasa will wait for your answer ,,  Regards,  Amit Puri On 13 Apr 2007 07:45:14 -0700, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: hare rama krsna Dear Jyotisha's! We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see this mail: Quiz: Date:         September 17, 1975 Time:         14:19:43 Time Zone:    1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        19 E 50' 00", 54 N 23' 00" Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house - they meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to marriage and he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). Please try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get married . She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 and good at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also). Rasi Lagna - Dhanus. Navamsa Lagna - Taurus . (rectified - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is also working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona). Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Guru www.rohinaa. com (+48) 503 44 18 18 Anurag Sharma napisaÅ‚(a): |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in SJC and discussed on the Lists. I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and Navamsha but this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method in his paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas. Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful approach can be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions. In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the native to commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing of this potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the Prashna and the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative approach in this regard. I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, placed with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very encouraging as Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the results of Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL placed in the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL. Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly help as it aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate events in this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP placed in UL in Rashi Chakra. Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in Navamsha and has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have unobstructed Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be a time for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari Dasha will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha. As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area of life appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the auspicious effects to come. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ....> wrote: > > *hare rama krsna* > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like: > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA (here are > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar touching the > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari and A7 > in D9 technique. > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala) > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect this last > two, then You have many many dasas) > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was recomended > so far > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play role as > confirmer > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc.. > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our Narasimha > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or someone from > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please kindly share > experience with us which of these points are important and many others > You may know. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Guru > www.rohinaa. com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Amit Puri napisaÅ‚(a): > > > > !! Jai Ganesha !! > > > > * à ¥Â** * Ã…Å¡rÄ« MÄÂtre Namaḥ ! > > > > Namskar Anurag ji > > > > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! …Can we narrow down some > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > > > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week of July > > 2007… and having good shadbala and more positive contributing bindu > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? …. Will > > wait for your comments > > > > > > Amit puri > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* <anuraagsharma27@ > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27 wrote: > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the Karma of > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications. > > > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the person might > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the Lagnesh and > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is worse in > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the Karma > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma. > > > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, being > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed in an > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now. > > > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could show coming > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be remedied. If > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results as the > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. Some of > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject through > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the Dasha and > > the significance of the various permutations and combinations of > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the learned > > scholars. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > < , Michal Dziwulski > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav, > > > > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that neither > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved. > > > > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her emotionally > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th from the > > Moon. > > > > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in Navamsa and > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this? > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ... > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa@ . com; Vedic Astrology List > > vedic astrology > > <vedic- astrology@ . com; Srijagannath > > < > > > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@ > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a > > Desperate Girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya > > > Namah| > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav, > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > The most important facet of > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by the Graha > > Drishti of Rahu, > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the Naisargika Karaka > > of marriage, > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow and anger > > might manifest > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. The fact > > that Shukra is > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which invited the > > curse in the > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) was not > > done with the > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > The curse can be remedied as > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for Rahu. > > Also, the fact > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed strength to its > > > significations. > > > > > > > > > > > > Donation of an idol of > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, donating a > > bed for their > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to attempt > > to come out of > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will > > affect her > > > intelligence and being directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > The debilitated malefic Mars > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is > > conjoined the A7, a > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would have > > been a headstrong > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox disapproval at > > home (Shani in > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to > > marry the person > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. The 2nd > > Lord from the UL, > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada. > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; 20:39:13; > > Dehradun, India. > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines to the > > natal 2nd UL > > > Kumbha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your recommendation of > > > fasting is correct and essential. > > > > > > > > > > > > She should also propitiate > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other Mantra. > > Else, start her > > > with 1 Mala. > > > > > > > > > > > > The exaltation of Venus in > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > This aspect of life is not > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in > > Rashi is also in > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and this UL > > are not too badly > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL and the > > 2nd House from > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Anurag Sharma > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the > > > Articles page > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai namah > > > > > > Namaste Gurus, > > > > > > Please find a request for > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get > > > married, but unable to find > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on > > > mondays (UL), > > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of > > > Jupiter > > > Mahadasa. > > > > > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and > > > other co lord > > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun, > > > all this indicating that > > > the person will be from a good family and > > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9, > > > the mangal is srong in own house. > > > > > > > > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in > > > D9... > > > > > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help; > > > > > > Date: > > > November 18, 1977 > > > Time: > > > 17:40:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East > > > of GMT) > > > Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26 > > > N 55' 10" > > > jaipur, , USA > > > Altitude: 425.00 > > > meters > > > > > > Namaste > > > Gaurav Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, > > clean, sans-serif;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, > > clean, sans-serif;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > > > #ygrp-text{ > > > font-family: Georgia; > > > } > > > #ygrp-text p{ > > > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > > > font-family: Arial; > > > clear:both;} > > > #ygrp-vitnav{ > > > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} > > > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > > > padding:0 1px;} > > > #ygrp-actbar{ > > > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- > > align:right; } > > > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > > > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > > > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > > > #ygrp-grft{ > > > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > > > #ygrp-ft{ > > > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; > > > padding:5px 0; > > > } > > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > > > padding-bottom: 10px;} > > > > > > #ygrp-vital{ > > > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px > > 8px;} > > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > > > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; > > color:#333; text-transform: uppercase; } > > > #ygrp-vital ul{ > > > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > > > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > > > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > > > } > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > > > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- > > align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > > > font-weight: bold;} > > > #ygrp-vital a { > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > > > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > > > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > > > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > > > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > > > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > > > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > > > padding:8px 0;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > > > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size: > > 100%;line- height:122% ;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > > > margin:0;} > > > o {font-size:0; } > > > .MsoNormal { > > > margin:0 0 0 0;} > > > #ygrp-text tt{ > > > font-size:120% ;} > > > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > > > .replbq {margin:4;} > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > _________ _________ _________ > > > Never miss an email again! > > > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. > > > http://tools. search.. com/toolbar/ features/ mail/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 Dear Rafal, I would like to attempt this quiz. My logic would be as folows: 1. 7th lord: Budha - Exalted - Vargottama - Not combust - Aspected by Guru 2. Karaka: Sukra - Retrograde - In enemy's house in Rasi - In Papakartari - In 12th house in Navamsa - Aspected by enemy Mars 3. 7th House - In Papakartari - No benefic aspects 7th lord is very favourable and at the same time Karaka is very badly placed. If not for well placed Budha, the marriage would have been either very late or wouldn't have taken place at all. Things are better because of Budha. Hence, it is neither an early marriage nor a very late marriage. Possibility is in the vicinity of about 30 years. The MD lord during this time frame is Guru. Guru is in his own house and aspects Sani, Budha, Ravi and Rahu. As Budha is the 7th lord who is excellently placed, Budha MD is higly probable. Chandra is in the second house of family and has a parivartana with Sani. Hence, even Chandra and Saturn would provide support. Sani is also aspected by Guru. Because of parivartana, I guess the marriage will take place during Chandra's perod. Note that Guru aspects Chandra and Budha is conjunct Chandra in Navamsa. Hence, my prediction would be: Guru-Budha-Chandra period: Sept 2003 to Nov. 2003 It is worth checking the next possibility as Chandra is a dusthana lord: Guru-Budha-Sani period: Aug. 2004 to Dec. 2004 I will wait for the answer from you. Regards, Krishna --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > *hare rama krsna* > > Dear Jyotisha's! > > We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please > see this mail: > > *Quiz:* > > * September 17, 1975 > Time: 14:19:43 > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 19 E 50' 00 " , 54 N 23' 00 " * > > Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth > house - they > meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to > marriage and > he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). > *Please > try to write (of course with methods used) when this person > get > married*. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 > and good > at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also). > > > Rasi Lagna - Dhanus. > * > Navamsa Lagna - Taurus*. > (*rectified* - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, > he is also > working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in > kona). > > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Guru > www.rohinaa.com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a): > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, > > > > That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal > Gendarz. I > > think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught > in SJC and > > discussed on the Lists. > > > > I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and > Navamsha but > > this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 > method in his > > paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the > Vargas. > > Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful > approach can > > be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's > lectures > > where he makes extensive use of this technique in > predictions. > > > > In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the > native to > > commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the > timing of this > > potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the > Prashna and > > the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a > conservative > > approach in this regard. > > > > I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord > of the > > relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for > 2007, placed > > with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, > the > > Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very > encouraging as > > Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the > results of > > Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL > placed in > > the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL. > > > > Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of > these > > matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing > may be > > studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly > help as it > > aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate > events in > > this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP > placed in > > UL in Rashi Chakra. > > > > Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in > Navamsha and > > has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have > unobstructed > > Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to > be a time > > for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi > Ashtottari Dasha > > will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha. > > > > As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this > area of life > > appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for > the > > auspicious effects to come. > > > > Regards, > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > , Rafal Gendarz > <starsuponme@ > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji > > > > > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like: > > > > > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA > > > > > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) > COVA (here are > > > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar > touching the > > > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi > ashottari and A7 > > > in D9 technique. > > > > > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also > argala) > > > > > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect > this last > > > two, then You have many many dasas) > > > > > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa > Pravesh > > Chakra > > > > > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit > > > > > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one > was > > recomended > > > so far > > > > > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can > play role as > > > confirmer > > > > > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc.. > > > > > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the > our > > Narasimha > > > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or > someone from > > > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please > kindly share > > > experience with us which of these points are important and > many others > > > You may know. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Guru > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > Amit Puri napisaÅ,(a): > > > > > > > > !! Jai Ganesha !! > > > > > > > > * à¥?** * Ås(rÄ« MÄ?tre Namaḥ ! > > > > > > > > Namskar Anurag ji > > > > > > > > > > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! âEUR¦Can we > narrow > > down some > > > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > === message truncated === Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Rafal, Namaskar. But I have given the probable time as summer of 2005. Now just a thought about how clients want readings. See, in a quiz on marriage, for someone born in 1975, you have a very large segment of years in which the person can get married. In COVA, Sanjay Ji takes this approach. See, before starting the Jyotish analysis, when the native might get married based on his or her age and in the Desh-Kal-Patra. For example, when child marriage was in vogue in India, this exercise would have been many times tougher. When a client actually wants a reading, say today, the Jyotishi has the luxury of not looking at the past for possible times of marriage. Of course, the native may have been married before etc and all that can be seen or coupled with feedback.So, there is an inherent difference between a live reading for the client and a Jyotish exercise of this sort. Marriage analysis can even be distinguished say from Saptamsha analysis in the static sense, when one is trying to glean the number of progeny. That one may do even in the horoscope of a child. Timing is a different issue. So, what the client wants is an issue that stands on a quite different footing. In my email, I have given a very small window which appears to me to be a likely period. One that came out was March-May, 2005. But the AD of Scorpio follows in the Navamsha Narayan Dasha. I suppose you are asking me to choose between these two periods. Scorpio being the 7th House in the Navamsha becomes a stronger candidate than Libra to give the marriage. March-December as Ketu AD in the Vimshottari runs till 1st December, 2005. So maybe the period from 15.6.2005 to 1.12.2005 comes out to be a more likely period. The Gochar of Guru in the 2nd from Upapada is another factor that is a positive for this set of timing. If you notice, the Hora Lord for two successive TP charts is linked with the 7th House in either Rashi or Navamsha. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com--- In , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hare rama krsna*> > Dear Anuragji,> > Yes..thank You for the background beside Your tries. Please decide for > the one data, because that will be what the client will want from You in > the reading - one good try.> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> SJC Guru> www.rohinaa.com> (+48) 503 44 18 18> > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> >> > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> >> > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> >> > Dear Rafal,> >> > Namaskar.> >> > The Upapada in the 6th House from the AL and Venus in the 6th from the > > AL can show some distancing in the marriage. This is especially so > > because Venus is in the 12th House in the Navamsha. As you have > > pointed out, the great strength of the 2nd Lord from the UL protects > > the marriage, forming Dharmakarmadhipati Yoga in the Rashi Chart.> >> > The native knew the girl before marriage as the lord of UL, Sun is > > placed in the A7 in the 10th House. There is Jara Yoga.> >> > The Chandra Vimshottari Dasha of Guru from 1998 is promising. Guru is > > also giving Argala to Navamsha Lagna which is not fully obstructed by > > Rahu though Rahu gives Vipreeta Argala of its own.> >> > The Antardashas of Mercury and Ketu are promising as they give Argala > > to the 7th House in the Navamsha. Mercury gives Argala to the 7th Lord > > also.> >> > Annual TP of 2002-2003 appears unlikely to have given marriage. Annual > > TP of 2003-2004 is more likely as the Lagna rising in the TP Rashi > > Chart is Dhanu and the Hora Lord Mars is placed in the 7th House in > > the Navamsha.> >> > The thing is that with this time Guru is transiting Upapada and he may > > have met the spouse at this time in late 2003.> >> > The annual TP of 2004-2005 has Leo Lagna rising which is in trines to > > natal Lagna and indicates an auspicious event. The Hora Lord Moon is > > in the 7th House indicating marriage. In the Navamsha, the Moon is > > placed in the 9th House of Bhagya as the Hora Lord, though afflicted > > by Ketu. Ketu Antardasha runs in Vimshottari and gives Vipreeta Argala > > to the 7th House. Ketu is also the 7th Lord of the Navamsha.> >> > Jupiter transits the 2nd House from the UL.> >> > Maybe the marriage happened from 30th March, 2005 to 22nd May, 2005 in > > the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of the Hora Lord Moon.> >> > The Navamsha Narayan Dasha of Taurus would be running which is the > > Lagna. Marriage is possible.> >> > Marriage at about 30 is possible as retrograde Venus is in the UL in > > Rashi chart and in the 12th House in the Navamsha Chart.> >> > The AD of Libra and Scorpio are both possible. In the AD of Scorpio, > > the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of Mars would be on. Mars lords the > > Navamsha Lagna. So summer of 2005 appears to be a possibility.> >> > Regards,> >> > Anurag Sharma> >> > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com/>> > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hare rama krsna*> > >> > > Dear Jyotisha's!> > >> > > We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see > > this mail:> > >> > > *Quiz:*> > >> > > *September 17, 1975> > > Time: 14:19:43> > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 19 E 50' 00", 54 N 23' 00"*> > >> > > Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house - they> > > meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to marriage and> > > he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). *Please> > > try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get> > > married*. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 and good> > > at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also).> > >> > >> > > Rasi Lagna - Dhanus.> > > *> > > Navamsa Lagna - Taurus*.> > > (*rectified* - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is > > also> > > working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona).> > >> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz> > > SJC Guru> > > www.rohinaa. com> > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > >> > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > >> > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > >> > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> > > >> > > > Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members,> > > >> > > > That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I> > > > think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in SJC > > and> > > > discussed on the Lists.> > > >> > > > I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and Navamsha but> > > > this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method in his> > > > paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas.> > > > Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful approach can> > > > be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures> > > > where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions.> > > >> > > > In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the > > native to> > > > commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing of this> > > > potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the Prashna and> > > > the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative> > > > approach in this regard.> > > >> > > > I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the> > > > relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, placed> > > > with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the> > > > Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very encouraging as> > > > Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the > > results of> > > > Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL placed in> > > > the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL.> > > >> > > > Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these> > > > matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be> > > > studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly help as it> > > > aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate events in> > > > this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP > > placed in> > > > UL in Rashi Chakra.> > > >> > > > Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in Navamsha > > and> > > > has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have unobstructed> > > > Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be a time> > > > for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari > > Dasha> > > > will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha.> > > >> > > > As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area of life> > > > appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the> > > > auspicious effects to come.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Anurag Sharma> > > >> > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > > ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > > >> > > > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji> > > > >> > > > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like:> > > > >> > > > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA> > > > >> > > > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA > > (here are> > > > > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar > > touching the> > > > > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari > > and A7> > > > > in D9 technique.> > > > >> > > > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala)> > > > >> > > > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect this last> > > > > two, then You have many many dasas)> > > > >> > > > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa Pravesh> > > > Chakra> > > > >> > > > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit> > > > >> > > > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was> > > > recomended> > > > > so far> > > > >> > > > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play > > role as> > > > > confirmer> > > > >> > > > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc..> > > > >> > > > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our> > > > Narasimha> > > > > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or someone from> > > > > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please > > kindly share> > > > > experience with us which of these points are important and many > > others> > > > > You may know.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > SJC Guru> > > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > >> > > > > Amit Puri napisaÅ,(a):> > > > > >> > > > > > !! Jai Ganesha !!> > > > > >> > > > > > * à¥?** * Ås(rÄ« MÄ?tre Namaḥ !> > > > > >> > > > > > Namskar Anurag ji> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! âEUR¦Can we narrow> > > > down some> > > > > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ?> > > > > >> > > > > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week > > of July> > > > > > 2007âEUR¦ and having good shadbala and more positive contributing> > > > bindu> > > > > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? > > âEUR¦.> > > > Will> > > > > > wait for your comments> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Amit puri> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* <anuraagsharma27@> > > > > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > > >> > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Michal,> > > > > >> > > > > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the Karma of> > > > > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications.> > > > > >> > > > > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the person might> > > > > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the Lagnesh and> > > > > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is worse in> > > > > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the Karma> > > > > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also> > > > > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma.> > > > > >> > > > > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is> > > > > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, being> > > > > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed in an> > > > > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now.> > > > > >> > > > > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could show coming> > > > > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana> > > > > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of> > > > > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be remedied. If> > > > > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably> > > > > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results as the> > > > > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. Some of> > > > > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject through> > > > > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the Dasha and> > > > > > the significance of the various permutations and combinations of> > > > > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This> > > > > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am> > > > > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater> > > > > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the learned> > > > > > scholars.> > > > > >> > > > > > Best regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > > >> > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > < , Michal Dziwulski> > > > > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that > > neither> > > > > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her emotionally> > > > > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th from the> > > > > > Moon.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in Navamsa and> > > > > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Respectfully,> > > > > > > Michal> > > > > > >> > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ...> > > > > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com> > > > > > <sohamsa; Vedic Astrology List> > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > <vedic- astrology; Srijagannath> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@> > > > > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM> > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a> > > > > > Desperate Girl> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya> > > > > > > Namah|> > > > > > >> > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai> > > > > > > Namah|> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Gaurav,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Namaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The most important facet of> > > > > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by the Graha> > > > > > Drishti of Rahu,> > > > > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the Naisargika Karaka> > > > > > of marriage,> > > > > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow and anger> > > > > > might manifest> > > > > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. The fact> > > > > > that Shukra is> > > > > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which invited the> > > > > > curse in the> > > > > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) > > was not> > > > > > done with the> > > > > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be > > severe.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The curse can be remedied as> > > > > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for Rahu.> > > > > > Also, the fact> > > > > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed strength > > to its> > > > > > > significations.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Donation of an idol of> > > > > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, donating a> > > > > > bed for their> > > > > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to attempt> > > > > > to come out of> > > > > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will> > > > > > affect her> > > > > > > intelligence and being directly.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The debilitated malefic Mars> > > > > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is> > > > > > conjoined the A7, a> > > > > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would have> > > > > > been a headstrong> > > > > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox disapproval at> > > > > > home (Shani in> > > > > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to> > > > > > marry the person> > > > > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. The 2nd> > > > > > Lord from the UL,> > > > > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada.> > > > > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; 20:39:13;> > > > > > Dehradun, India.> > > > > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines to the> > > > > > natal 2nd UL> > > > > > > Kumbha.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Your recommendation of> > > > > > > fasting is correct and essential.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > She should also propitiate> > > > > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be> > > > > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other Mantra.> > > > > > Else, start her> > > > > > > with 1 Mala.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The exaltation of Venus in> > > > > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > This aspect of life is not> > > > > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in> > > > > > Rashi is also in> > > > > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and this UL> > > > > > are not too badly> > > > > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL and the> > > > > > 2nd House from> > > > > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Best Wishes,> > > > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > > > >> > > > > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the> > > > > > > Articles page> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Aum Durgayai namah> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Namaste Gurus,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Please find a request for> > > > > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get> > > > > > > married, but unable to find> > > > > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on> > > > > > > mondays (UL),> > > > > > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of> > > > > > > Jupiter> > > > > > > Mahadasa.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and> > > > > > > other co lord> > > > > > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun,> > > > > > > all this indicating that> > > > > > > the person will be from a good family and> > > > > > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9,> > > > > > > the mangal is srong in own house.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in> > > > > > > D9...> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help;> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Date:> > > > > > > November 18, 1977> > > > > > > Time:> > > > > > > 17:40:00> > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East> > > > > > > of GMT)> > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26> > > > > > > N 55' 10"> > > > > > > jaipur, , USA> > > > > > > Altitude: 425.00> > > > > > > meters> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Namaste> > > > > > > Gaurav Jain> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > <!--> > > > > > >> > > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; 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Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Rafal,Looking at Narayana Dasa I would say Pisces Mahadasa would be very unlikely as it houses a vargottama Jupiter who is Atmakaraka and Lagnesha in Arudha Lagna. This would have been a very self focused time.The next dasa of Scorpio is conducive to meeting a partner as the planet occupying is Rahu who is 7th Lord from Venus (though he may have known of her or seen her during Saturn antardasa in Jupiter Mahadasa). Calculating the bhoga rasi for Scorpio we arrive at Leo the UL showing that the fruit of the dasa will be marriage.In Vimshottari, Mercury antardasa in Jupiter dasa is the obvious choice for marriage as Mercury is 7th Lord, is in 7th from Mahadasa Lord, conjoins A7 and Sun who is darakaraka and UL lord. Having said that, the following dasa is that of Ketu, lord of 7th in Navamsa conjoined darakaraka in the 9th.The Tithi Pravesha chart for 2004 is notable. 1. Leo rises, which is the 9th house and Upapada Lagna in the birth chart.2. Hora Lord is Moon placed in 7th house in Rasi showing the focus on 7th house matters.3. The UL in this chart is conjoined Sun, Jupiter, Mercury, and 9th Lord Mars.In Narayana Dasa of D9 chart starting the dasas from the 9th lord because marriage has to do with Dharma, Taurus dasa is running at this time, and my guess for antardasa would be Libra.So in the broad range of Sept 2004 - October 2005and tentative approximation of Sept 2004 - June 2005Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme ; sohamsa Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 3:07:11 AM Marriage timing - quiz hare rama krsna Dear Jyotisha's! We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see this mail: Quiz: September 17, 1975 Time: 14:19:43 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 19 E 50' 00", 54 N 23' 00" Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house - they meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to marriage and he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). Please try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get married. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 and good at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also). Rasi Lagna - Dhanus. Navamsa Lagna - Taurus. (rectified - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is also working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona). Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Guru www.rohinaa. com (+48) 503 44 18 18 Anurag Sharma napisał(a): |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in SJC and discussed on the Lists. I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and Navamsha but this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method in his paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas. Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful approach can be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions. In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the native to commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing of this potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the Prashna and the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative approach in this regard. I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, placed with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very encouraging as Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the results of Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL placed in the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL. Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly help as it aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate events in this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP placed in UL in Rashi Chakra. Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in Navamsha and has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have unobstructed Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be a time for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari Dasha will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha. As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area of life appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the auspicious effects to come. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ....> wrote: > > *hare rama krsna* > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like: > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA (here are > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar touching the > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari and A7 > in D9 technique. > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala) > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect this last > two, then You have many many dasas) > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was recomended > so far > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play role as > confirmer > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc.. > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our Narasimha > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or someone from > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please kindly share > experience with us which of these points are important and many others > You may know. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Guru > www.rohinaa. com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Amit Puri napisaÅ‚(a): > > > > !! Jai Ganesha !! > > > > * à ¥�** * ÅšrÄ« MÄ�tre Namaḥ ! > > > > Namskar Anurag ji > > > > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! …Can we narrow down some > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > > > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week of July > > 2007… and having good shadbala and more positive contributing bindu > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? …. Will > > wait for your comments > > > > > > Amit puri > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* <anuraagsharma27@ > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27 wrote: > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the Karma of > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications. > > > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the person might > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the Lagnesh and > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is worse in > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the Karma > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma. > > > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, being > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed in an > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now. > > > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could show coming > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be remedied. If > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results as the > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. Some of > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject through > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the Dasha and > > the significance of the various permutations and combinations of > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the learned > > scholars. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > < , Michal Dziwulski > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav, > > > > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that neither > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved. > > > > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her emotionally > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th from the > > Moon. > > > > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in Navamsa and > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this? > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ... > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa; Vedic Astrology List > > vedic astrology > > <vedic- astrology; Srijagannath > > < > > > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@ > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a > > Desperate Girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya > > > Namah| > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav, > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > The most important facet of > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by the Graha > > Drishti of Rahu, > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the Naisargika Karaka > > of marriage, > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow and anger > > might manifest > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. The fact > > that Shukra is > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which invited the > > curse in the > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) was not > > done with the > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > The curse can be remedied as > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for Rahu. > > Also, the fact > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed strength to its > > > significations. > > > > > > > > > > > > Donation of an idol of > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, donating a > > bed for their > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to attempt > > to come out of > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will > > affect her > > > intelligence and being directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > The debilitated malefic Mars > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is > > conjoined the A7, a > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would have > > been a headstrong > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox disapproval at > > home (Shani in > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to > > marry the person > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. The 2nd > > Lord from the UL, > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada. > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; 20:39:13; > > Dehradun, India. > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines to the > > natal 2nd UL > > > Kumbha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your recommendation of > > > fasting is correct and essential. > > > > > > > > > > > > She should also propitiate > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other Mantra. > > Else, start her > > > with 1 Mala. > > > > > > > > > > > > The exaltation of Venus in > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > This aspect of life is not > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in > > Rashi is also in > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and this UL > > are not too badly > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL and the > > 2nd House from > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Anurag Sharma > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the > > > Articles page > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai namah > > > > > > Namaste Gurus, > > > > > > Please find a request for > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get > > > married, but unable to find > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on > > > mondays (UL), > > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of > > > Jupiter > > > Mahadasa. > > > > > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and > > > other co lord > > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun, > > > all this indicating that > > > the person will be from a good family and > > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9, > > > the mangal is srong in own house. > > > > > > > > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in > > > D9... > > > > > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help; > > > > > > Date: > > > November 18, 1977 > > > Time: > > > 17:40:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East > > > of GMT) > > > Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26 > > > N 55' 10" > > > jaipur, , USA > > > Altitude: 425.00 > > > meters > > > > > > Namaste > > > Gaurav Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, > > clean, sans-serif;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, > > clean, sans-serif;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > > > #ygrp-text{ > > > font-family: Georgia; > > > } > > > #ygrp-text p{ > > > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > > > font-family: Arial; > > > clear:both;} > > > #ygrp-vitnav{ > > > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} > > > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > > > padding:0 1px;} > > > #ygrp-actbar{ > > > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- > > align:right; } > > > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > > > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > > > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > > > #ygrp-grft{ > > > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > > > #ygrp-ft{ > > > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; > > > padding:5px 0; > > > } > > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > > > padding-bottom: 10px;} > > > > > > #ygrp-vital{ > > > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px > > 8px;} > > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > > > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; > > color:#333; text-transform: uppercase; } > > > #ygrp-vital ul{ > > > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > > > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > > > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > > > } > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > > > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- > > align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > > > font-weight: bold;} > > > #ygrp-vital a { > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > > > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > > > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > > > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > > > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > > > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > > > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > > > padding:8px 0;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > > > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size: > > 100%;line- height:122% ;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > > > margin:0;} > > > o {font-size:0; } > > > .MsoNormal { > > > margin:0 0 0 0;} > > > #ygrp-text tt{ > > > font-size:120% ;} > > > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > > > .replbq {margin:4;} > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > _________ _________ _________ > > > Never miss an email again! > > > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. > > > http://tools. search.. com/toolbar/ features/ mail/ > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? 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Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 *hare rama krsna* Dear Anuragji, #1 This quiz rather is more similar to situation when the parents of child comes to You as Daivajna and ask this question when the person will get married, this of course can be important to manage reasonably the years in life with events. In my history I see that timing of marriage is very hard task because it also appeals to the official side of the relationship, Vimshottari used with D9 can show us clearly when one will meet the partner=dating, but the final decision to marry can be not so simply seen. Especially when no yajna is conducted. #2 THEREFORE: I see no special difference between this quiz and reading in live. Because the client will ask You when He will marry (and all Jyotisha's know - its very often question coming from the clients) - so just imagine this person comes to You at age of 17 and ask You for reading. #3 In the monday I will give the answer. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Guru www.rohinaa.com (+48) 503 44 18 18 Anurag Sharma napisał(a): > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > Dear Rafal, > > Namaskar. > > But I have given the probable time as summer of 2005. Now just a > thought about how clients want readings. See, in a quiz on marriage, > for someone born in 1975, you have a very large segment of years in > which the person can get married. In COVA, Sanjay Ji takes this > approach. See, before starting the Jyotish analysis, when the native > might get married based on his or her age and in the Desh-Kal-Patra. > For example, when child marriage was in vogue in India, this exercise > would have been many times tougher. > > When a client actually wants a reading, say today, the Jyotishi has > the luxury of not looking at the past for possible times of marriage. > Of course, the native may have been married before etc and all that > can be seen or coupled with feedback.So, there is an inherent > difference between a live reading for the client and a Jyotish > exercise of this sort. > > Marriage analysis can even be distinguished say from Saptamsha > analysis in the static sense, when one is trying to glean the number > of progeny. That one may do even in the horoscope of a child. Timing > is a different issue. So, what the client wants is an issue that > stands on a quite different footing. > > In my email, I have given a very small window which appears to me to > be a likely period. One that came out was March-May, 2005. But the AD > of Scorpio follows in the Navamsha Narayan Dasha. I suppose you are > asking me to choose between these two periods. Scorpio being the 7th > House in the Navamsha becomes a stronger candidate than Libra to give > the marriage. March-December as Ketu AD in the Vimshottari runs till > 1st December, 2005. So maybe the period from 15.6.2005 to 1.12.2005 > comes out to be a more likely period. > > The Gochar of Guru in the 2nd from Upapada is another factor that is a > positive for this set of timing. > > If you notice, the Hora Lord for two successive TP charts is linked > with the 7th House in either Rashi or Navamsha. > > Regards, > > Anurag Sharma > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > ...> wrote: > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > Dear Anuragji, > > > > Yes..thank You for the background beside Your tries. Please decide for > > the one data, because that will be what the client will want from > You in > > the reading - one good try. > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > SJC Guru > > www.rohinaa. com > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a): > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > The Upapada in the 6th House from the AL and Venus in the 6th from > the > > > AL can show some distancing in the marriage. This is especially so > > > because Venus is in the 12th House in the Navamsha. As you have > > > pointed out, the great strength of the 2nd Lord from the UL protects > > > the marriage, forming Dharmakarmadhipati Yoga in the Rashi Chart. > > > > > > The native knew the girl before marriage as the lord of UL, Sun is > > > placed in the A7 in the 10th House. There is Jara Yoga. > > > > > > The Chandra Vimshottari Dasha of Guru from 1998 is promising. Guru is > > > also giving Argala to Navamsha Lagna which is not fully obstructed by > > > Rahu though Rahu gives Vipreeta Argala of its own. > > > > > > The Antardashas of Mercury and Ketu are promising as they give Argala > > > to the 7th House in the Navamsha. Mercury gives Argala to the 7th > Lord > > > also. > > > > > > Annual TP of 2002-2003 appears unlikely to have given marriage. > Annual > > > TP of 2003-2004 is more likely as the Lagna rising in the TP Rashi > > > Chart is Dhanu and the Hora Lord Mars is placed in the 7th House in > > > the Navamsha. > > > > > > The thing is that with this time Guru is transiting Upapada and he > may > > > have met the spouse at this time in late 2003. > > > > > > The annual TP of 2004-2005 has Leo Lagna rising which is in trines to > > > natal Lagna and indicates an auspicious event. The Hora Lord Moon is > > > in the 7th House indicating marriage. In the Navamsha, the Moon is > > > placed in the 9th House of Bhagya as the Hora Lord, though afflicted > > > by Ketu. Ketu Antardasha runs in Vimshottari and gives Vipreeta > Argala > > > to the 7th House. Ketu is also the 7th Lord of the Navamsha. > > > > > > Jupiter transits the 2nd House from the UL. > > > > > > Maybe the marriage happened from 30th March, 2005 to 22nd May, > 2005 in > > > the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of the Hora Lord Moon. > > > > > > The Navamsha Narayan Dasha of Taurus would be running which is the > > > Lagna. Marriage is possible. > > > > > > Marriage at about 30 is possible as retrograde Venus is in the UL in > > > Rashi chart and in the 12th House in the Navamsha Chart. > > > > > > The AD of Libra and Scorpio are both possible. In the AD of Scorpio, > > > the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of Mars would be on. Mars lords the > > > Navamsha Lagna. So summer of 2005 appears to be a possibility. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > <http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com/> > > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > > > Dear Jyotisha's! > > > > > > > > We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see > > > this mail: > > > > > > > > *Quiz:* > > > > > > > > *September 17, 1975 > > > > Time: 14:19:43 > > > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 19 E 50' 00 " , 54 N 23' 00 " * > > > > > > > > Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house > - they > > > > meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to > marriage and > > > > he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). > *Please > > > > try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get > > > > married*. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 > and good > > > > at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also). > > > > > > > > > > > > Rasi Lagna - Dhanus. > > > > * > > > > Navamsa Lagna - Taurus*. > > > > (*rectified* - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is > > > also > > > > working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > SJC Guru > > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, > > > > > > > > > > That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I > > > > > think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in > SJC > > > and > > > > > discussed on the Lists. > > > > > > > > > > I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and > Navamsha but > > > > > this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method > in his > > > > > paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas. > > > > > Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful > approach can > > > > > be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's > lectures > > > > > where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions. > > > > > > > > > > In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the > > > native to > > > > > commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing > of this > > > > > potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the > Prashna and > > > > > the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative > > > > > approach in this regard. > > > > > > > > > > I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the > > > > > relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, > placed > > > > > with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the > > > > > Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very > encouraging as > > > > > Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the > > > results of > > > > > Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL > placed in > > > > > the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL. > > > > > > > > > > Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these > > > > > matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be > > > > > studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly > help as it > > > > > aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate > events in > > > > > this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP > > > placed in > > > > > UL in Rashi Chakra. > > > > > > > > > > Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in > Navamsha > > > and > > > > > has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have > unobstructed > > > > > Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be > a time > > > > > for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari > > > Dasha > > > > > will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha. > > > > > > > > > > As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area > of life > > > > > appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the > > > > > auspicious effects to come. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji > > > > > > > > > > > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA > > > (here are > > > > > > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar > > > touching the > > > > > > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari > > > and A7 > > > > > > in D9 technique. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala) > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect > this last > > > > > > two, then You have many many dasas) > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa > Pravesh > > > > > Chakra > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was > > > > > recomended > > > > > > so far > > > > > > > > > > > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play > > > role as > > > > > > confirmer > > > > > > > > > > > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or > someone from > > > > > > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please > > > kindly share > > > > > > experience with us which of these points are important and many > > > others > > > > > > You may know. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > SJC Guru > > > > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit Puri napisaÅ,(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > !! Jai Ganesha !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * à ¥?** * Ås(rÄ« MÄ?tre Namaḥ ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namskar Anurag ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! âEUR¦Can we > narrow > > > > > down some > > > > > > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week > > > of July > > > > > > > 2007âEUR¦ and having good shadbala and more positive > contributing > > > > > bindu > > > > > > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? > > > âEUR¦. > > > > > Will > > > > > > > wait for your comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit puri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* > <anuraagsharma27@ > > > > > > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the > Karma of > > > > > > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the > person might > > > > > > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the > Lagnesh and > > > > > > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is > worse in > > > > > > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the > Karma > > > > > > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also > > > > > > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is > > > > > > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, > being > > > > > > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed > in an > > > > > > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could > show coming > > > > > > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana > > > > > > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of > > > > > > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be > remedied. If > > > > > > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably > > > > > > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results > as the > > > > > > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. > Some of > > > > > > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject > through > > > > > > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the > Dasha and > > > > > > > the significance of the various permutations and > combinations of > > > > > > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This > > > > > > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am > > > > > > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater > > > > > > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the > learned > > > > > > > scholars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < , Michal Dziwulski > > > > > > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that > > > neither > > > > > > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her > emotionally > > > > > > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th > from the > > > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in > Navamsa and > > > > > > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ... > > > > > > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > <sohamsa; Vedic Astrology List > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology; Srijagannath > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@ > > > > > > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM > > > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a > > > > > > > Desperate Girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya > > > > > > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai > > > > > > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most important facet of > > > > > > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by > the Graha > > > > > > > Drishti of Rahu, > > > > > > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the > Naisargika Karaka > > > > > > > of marriage, > > > > > > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow > and anger > > > > > > > might manifest > > > > > > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. > The fact > > > > > > > that Shukra is > > > > > > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which > invited the > > > > > > > curse in the > > > > > > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) > > > was not > > > > > > > done with the > > > > > > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be > > > severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The curse can be remedied as > > > > > > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for > Rahu. > > > > > > > Also, the fact > > > > > > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed > strength > > > to its > > > > > > > > significations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donation of an idol of > > > > > > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, > donating a > > > > > > > bed for their > > > > > > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to > attempt > > > > > > > to come out of > > > > > > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will > > > > > > > affect her > > > > > > > > intelligence and being directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The debilitated malefic Mars > > > > > > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is > > > > > > > conjoined the A7, a > > > > > > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would > have > > > > > > > been a headstrong > > > > > > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox > disapproval at > > > > > > > home (Shani in > > > > > > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to > > > > > > > marry the person > > > > > > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. > The 2nd > > > > > > > Lord from the UL, > > > > > > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada. > > > > > > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; > 20:39:13; > > > > > > > Dehradun, India. > > > > > > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines > to the > > > > > > > natal 2nd UL > > > > > > > > Kumbha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your recommendation of > > > > > > > > fasting is correct and essential. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She should also propitiate > > > > > > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be > > > > > > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other > Mantra. > > > > > > > Else, start her > > > > > > > > with 1 Mala. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The exaltation of Venus in > > > > > > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This aspect of life is not > > > > > > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in > > > > > > > Rashi is also in > > > > > > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and > this UL > > > > > > > are not too badly > > > > > > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL > and the > > > > > > > 2nd House from > > > > > > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the > > > > > > > > Articles page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Gurus, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please find a request for > > > > > > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get > > > > > > > > married, but unable to find > > > > > > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on > > > > > > > > mondays (UL), > > > > > > > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > Mahadasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and > > > > > > > > other co lord > > > > > > > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun, > > > > > > > > all this indicating that > > > > > > > > the person will be from a good family and > > > > > > > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9, > > > > > > > > the mangal is srong in own house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in > > > > > > > > D9... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: > > > > > > > > November 18, 1977 > > > > > > > > Time: > > > > > > > > 17:40:00 > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East > > > > > > > > of GMT) > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 10 " , 26 > > > > > > > > N 55' 10 " > > > > > > > > jaipur, , USA > > > > > > > > Altitude: 425.00 > > > > > > > > meters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > Gaurav Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; 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Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 Dear Rafal, With reference to the quiz,my comments are as follows. 1.The 7th house Gemeni is hemmed between malefics,Mars,Ketu in 6th and Satiin 8th. Hence little happiness from partner.Even if marriage takes place possibility of separation due Mars in 6th. 2.Saturn aspecting 7th lord Mer indicates a delay.Also Moon asp by Sat 3.For timimg of marriage,I use the principle of simultaneous aspect of Jup and Saturn on Lagna/7th ansd also Moon Lagan/7th. Under this principle there was a possibility last year when Jup was in Tula and Sat in Karka. 4. In future, marriage possible when Jup in Makara and Sat in Simha.Jup/Sun dasa.(2009) 5.According to KP Prashna, Merc sub of 7th indicates multiple attempts, possibility of more than one marriage. Period of marriage mid 2009. Detailed analysis for moths etc no carried out. Look forward to your details. Regards, Satish , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hare rama krsna* > > Dear Anuragji, > > #1 This quiz rather is more similar to situation when the parents of > child comes to You as Daivajna and ask this question when the person > will get married, this of course can be important to manage reasonably > the years in life with events. In my history I see that timing of > marriage is very hard task because it also appeals to the official side > of the relationship, Vimshottari used with D9 can show us clearly when > one will meet the partner=dating, but the final decision to marry can be > not so simply seen. Especially when no yajna is conducted. > > #2 THEREFORE: I see no special difference between this quiz and reading > in live. Because the client will ask You when He will marry (and all > Jyotisha's know - its very often question coming from the clients) - so > just imagine this person comes to You at age of 17 and ask You for reading. > > #3 In the monday I will give the answer. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Guru > www.rohinaa.com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Anurag Sharma napisał(a): > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > Namaskar. > > > > But I have given the probable time as summer of 2005. Now just a > > thought about how clients want readings. See, in a quiz on marriage, > > for someone born in 1975, you have a very large segment of years in > > which the person can get married. In COVA, Sanjay Ji takes this > > approach. See, before starting the Jyotish analysis, when the native > > might get married based on his or her age and in the Desh-Kal- Patra. > > For example, when child marriage was in vogue in India, this exercise > > would have been many times tougher. > > > > When a client actually wants a reading, say today, the Jyotishi has > > the luxury of not looking at the past for possible times of marriage. > > Of course, the native may have been married before etc and all that > > can be seen or coupled with feedback.So, there is an inherent > > difference between a live reading for the client and a Jyotish > > exercise of this sort. > > > > Marriage analysis can even be distinguished say from Saptamsha > > analysis in the static sense, when one is trying to glean the number > > of progeny. That one may do even in the horoscope of a child. Timing > > is a different issue. So, what the client wants is an issue that > > stands on a quite different footing. > > > > In my email, I have given a very small window which appears to me to > > be a likely period. One that came out was March-May, 2005. But the AD > > of Scorpio follows in the Navamsha Narayan Dasha. I suppose you are > > asking me to choose between these two periods. Scorpio being the 7th > > House in the Navamsha becomes a stronger candidate than Libra to give > > the marriage. March-December as Ketu AD in the Vimshottari runs till > > 1st December, 2005. So maybe the period from 15.6.2005 to 1.12.2005 > > comes out to be a more likely period. > > > > The Gochar of Guru in the 2nd from Upapada is another factor that is a > > positive for this set of timing. > > > > If you notice, the Hora Lord for two successive TP charts is linked > > with the 7th House in either Rashi or Navamsha. > > > > Regards, > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > Dear Anuragji, > > > > > > Yes..thank You for the background beside Your tries. Please decide for > > > the one data, because that will be what the client will want from > > You in > > > the reading - one good try. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Guru > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > The Upapada in the 6th House from the AL and Venus in the 6th from > > the > > > > AL can show some distancing in the marriage. This is especially so > > > > because Venus is in the 12th House in the Navamsha. As you have > > > > pointed out, the great strength of the 2nd Lord from the UL protects > > > > the marriage, forming Dharmakarmadhipati Yoga in the Rashi Chart. > > > > > > > > The native knew the girl before marriage as the lord of UL, Sun is > > > > placed in the A7 in the 10th House. There is Jara Yoga. > > > > > > > > The Chandra Vimshottari Dasha of Guru from 1998 is promising. Guru is > > > > also giving Argala to Navamsha Lagna which is not fully obstructed by > > > > Rahu though Rahu gives Vipreeta Argala of its own. > > > > > > > > The Antardashas of Mercury and Ketu are promising as they give Argala > > > > to the 7th House in the Navamsha. Mercury gives Argala to the 7th > > Lord > > > > also. > > > > > > > > Annual TP of 2002-2003 appears unlikely to have given marriage. > > Annual > > > > TP of 2003-2004 is more likely as the Lagna rising in the TP Rashi > > > > Chart is Dhanu and the Hora Lord Mars is placed in the 7th House in > > > > the Navamsha. > > > > > > > > The thing is that with this time Guru is transiting Upapada and he > > may > > > > have met the spouse at this time in late 2003. > > > > > > > > The annual TP of 2004-2005 has Leo Lagna rising which is in trines to > > > > natal Lagna and indicates an auspicious event. The Hora Lord Moon is > > > > in the 7th House indicating marriage. In the Navamsha, the Moon is > > > > placed in the 9th House of Bhagya as the Hora Lord, though afflicted > > > > by Ketu. Ketu Antardasha runs in Vimshottari and gives Vipreeta > > Argala > > > > to the 7th House. Ketu is also the 7th Lord of the Navamsha. > > > > > > > > Jupiter transits the 2nd House from the UL. > > > > > > > > Maybe the marriage happened from 30th March, 2005 to 22nd May, > > 2005 in > > > > the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of the Hora Lord Moon. > > > > > > > > The Navamsha Narayan Dasha of Taurus would be running which is the > > > > Lagna. Marriage is possible. > > > > > > > > Marriage at about 30 is possible as retrograde Venus is in the UL in > > > > Rashi chart and in the 12th House in the Navamsha Chart. > > > > > > > > The AD of Libra and Scorpio are both possible. In the AD of Scorpio, > > > > the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of Mars would be on. Mars lords the > > > > Navamsha Lagna. So summer of 2005 appears to be a possibility. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > <http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com/> > > > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jyotisha's! > > > > > > > > > > We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see > > > > this mail: > > > > > > > > > > *Quiz:* > > > > > > > > > > *September 17, 1975 > > > > > Time: 14:19:43 > > > > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > Place: 19 E 50' 00 " , 54 N 23' 00 " * > > > > > > > > > > Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house > > - they > > > > > meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to > > marriage and > > > > > he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). > > *Please > > > > > try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get > > > > > married*. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 > > and good > > > > > at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rasi Lagna - Dhanus. > > > > > * > > > > > Navamsa Lagna - Taurus*. > > > > > (*rectified* - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is > > > > also > > > > > working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > SJC Guru > > > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, > > > > > > > > > > > > That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I > > > > > > think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in > > SJC > > > > and > > > > > > discussed on the Lists. > > > > > > > > > > > > I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and > > Navamsha but > > > > > > this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method > > in his > > > > > > paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas. > > > > > > Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful > > approach can > > > > > > be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's > > lectures > > > > > > where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the > > > > native to > > > > > > commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing > > of this > > > > > > potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the > > Prashna and > > > > > > the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative > > > > > > approach in this regard. > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the > > > > > > relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, > > placed > > > > > > with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the > > > > > > Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very > > encouraging as > > > > > > Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the > > > > results of > > > > > > Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL > > placed in > > > > > > the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL. > > > > > > > > > > > > Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these > > > > > > matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be > > > > > > studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly > > help as it > > > > > > aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate > > events in > > > > > > this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP > > > > placed in > > > > > > UL in Rashi Chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in > > Navamsha > > > > and > > > > > > has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have > > unobstructed > > > > > > Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be > > a time > > > > > > for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari > > > > Dasha > > > > > > will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area > > of life > > > > > > appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the > > > > > > auspicious effects to come. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA > > > > (here are > > > > > > > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa- antar > > > > touching the > > > > > > > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari > > > > and A7 > > > > > > > in D9 technique. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect > > this last > > > > > > > two, then You have many many dasas) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa > > Pravesh > > > > > > Chakra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was > > > > > > recomended > > > > > > > so far > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play > > > > role as > > > > > > > confirmer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or > > someone from > > > > > > > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please > > > > kindly share > > > > > > > experience with us which of these points are important and many > > > > others > > > > > > > You may know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > SJC Guru > > > > > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit Puri napisaÅ,(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > !! Jai Ganesha !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * à ¥?** * Ås(rÄ« MÄ?tre Namaḥ ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namskar Anurag ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! â EUR¦Can we > > narrow > > > > > > down some > > > > > > > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week > > > > of July > > > > > > > > 2007âEUR¦ and having good shadbala and more positive > > contributing > > > > > > bindu > > > > > > > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? > > > > âEUR¦. > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > > wait for your comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit puri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* > > <anuraagsharma27@ > > > > > > > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the > > Karma of > > > > > > > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the > > person might > > > > > > > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the > > Lagnesh and > > > > > > > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is > > worse in > > > > > > > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the > > Karma > > > > > > > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also > > > > > > > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is > > > > > > > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, > > being > > > > > > > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed > > in an > > > > > > > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could > > show coming > > > > > > > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana > > > > > > > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of > > > > > > > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be > > remedied. If > > > > > > > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably > > > > > > > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results > > as the > > > > > > > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. > > Some of > > > > > > > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject > > through > > > > > > > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the > > Dasha and > > > > > > > > the significance of the various permutations and > > combinations of > > > > > > > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This > > > > > > > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am > > > > > > > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater > > > > > > > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the > > learned > > > > > > > > scholars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < , Michal Dziwulski > > > > > > > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that > > > > neither > > > > > > > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her > > emotionally > > > > > > > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th > > from the > > > > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in > > Navamsa and > > > > > > > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ... > > > > > > > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > <sohamsa; Vedic Astrology List > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology; Srijagannath > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@ > > > > > > > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM > > > > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a > > > > > > > > Desperate Girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya > > > > > > > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai > > > > > > > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most important facet of > > > > > > > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by > > the Graha > > > > > > > > Drishti of Rahu, > > > > > > > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the > > Naisargika Karaka > > > > > > > > of marriage, > > > > > > > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow > > and anger > > > > > > > > might manifest > > > > > > > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. > > The fact > > > > > > > > that Shukra is > > > > > > > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which > > invited the > > > > > > > > curse in the > > > > > > > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) > > > > was not > > > > > > > > done with the > > > > > > > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be > > > > severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The curse can be remedied as > > > > > > > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > Also, the fact > > > > > > > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed > > strength > > > > to its > > > > > > > > > significations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donation of an idol of > > > > > > > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, > > donating a > > > > > > > > bed for their > > > > > > > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to > > attempt > > > > > > > > to come out of > > > > > > > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will > > > > > > > > affect her > > > > > > > > > intelligence and being directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The debilitated malefic Mars > > > > > > > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is > > > > > > > > conjoined the A7, a > > > > > > > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would > > have > > > > > > > > been a headstrong > > > > > > > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox > > disapproval at > > > > > > > > home (Shani in > > > > > > > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to > > > > > > > > marry the person > > > > > > > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. > > The 2nd > > > > > > > > Lord from the UL, > > > > > > > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada. > > > > > > > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; > > 20:39:13; > > > > > > > > Dehradun, India. > > > > > > > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines > > to the > > > > > > > > natal 2nd UL > > > > > > > > > Kumbha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your recommendation of > > > > > > > > > fasting is correct and essential. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She should also propitiate > > > > > > > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be > > > > > > > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other > > Mantra. > > > > > > > > Else, start her > > > > > > > > > with 1 Mala. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The exaltation of Venus in > > > > > > > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This aspect of life is not > > > > > > > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in > > > > > > > > Rashi is also in > > > > > > > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and > > this UL > > > > > > > > are not too badly > > > > > > > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL > > and the > > > > > > > > 2nd House from > > > > > > > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the > > > > > > > > > Articles page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Gurus, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please find a request for > > > > > > > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get > > > > > > > > > married, but unable to find > > > > > > > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on > > > > > > > > > mondays (UL), > > > > > > > > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of > > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > Mahadasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and > > > > > > > > > other co lord > > > > > > > > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun, > > > > > > > > > all this indicating that > > > > > > > > > the person will be from a good family and > > > > > > > > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9, > > > > > > > > > the mangal is srong in own house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in > > > > > > > > > D9... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: > > > > > > > > > November 18, 1977 > > > > > > > > > Time: > > > > > > > > > 17:40:00 > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East > > > > > > > > > of GMT) > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 10 " , 26 > > > > > > > > > N 55' 10 " > > > > > > > > > jaipur, , USA > > > > > > > > > Altitude: 425.00 > > > > > > > > > meters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > Gaurav Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; 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Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Rafal, Quite true. I agree. Logically, this is an eminent possibility and in that case the present quiz will be remarkably similar if not identical to that situation. So, the best thing to do would be, no matter how hard it is, to explore whatever periods appear likely and pick one out of those. The benefit in this kind of an exercise is that the 'tools' of analysis are refreshed even though the factual answer may or may not be correct. There is an element of irony in this situation for me. In my own horoscope, which I examine quite frequently, and accomplished Jyotishis on this List and elsewhere have analysed the chart too, so many divergent opinions seem to come out even regarding the static aspects of marriage. Of course, just as the Jyotishi cannot pose his own queries and answer his own Prashna: Sanjay Ji says it does not work that way, even others have a different take based on the same Yogas. And this is about static aspects. Timing is even tougher I guess. Regarding Vimshottari, I think I recall Sanjay Ji writing in COVA in one chart that Vimshottari gave so many possible periods of marrige that it was only Narayan Dasha that could be relied on. I am not certain but perhaps that was the chart of his first wife. So, I agree with you about your views on the Vimshottari. The solemnization of the marriage might not be seen from this Dasha. At least not as a rule, as it is mind centric and can show emotional stimuli and reactions that may go on to constitute courtship. In a lighter vein, and after agreeing with you, if a 17 year old would come to me about his marriage, I would advise him to focus on his studies instead, much as we do not analyse Prashna elaborately when it does not satisfy the rules. No, but more seriously, we have to grapple with this problem of identifying possible periods for marriage. In all the books that we read, it is always about possible periods rather than a very definite period. Many planets and periods seem to become candidates and finally you pick the best or a couple of the best. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hare rama krsna*> > Dear Anuragji,> > #1 This quiz rather is more similar to situation when the parents of > child comes to You as Daivajna and ask this question when the person > will get married, this of course can be important to manage reasonably > the years in life with events. In my history I see that timing of > marriage is very hard task because it also appeals to the official side > of the relationship, Vimshottari used with D9 can show us clearly when > one will meet the partner=dating, but the final decision to marry can be > not so simply seen. Especially when no yajna is conducted.> > #2 THEREFORE: I see no special difference between this quiz and reading > in live. Because the client will ask You when He will marry (and all > Jyotisha's know - its very often question coming from the clients) - so > just imagine this person comes to You at age of 17 and ask You for reading.> > #3 In the monday I will give the answer.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> SJC Guru> www.rohinaa.com> (+48) 503 44 18 18> > Anurag Sharma napisał(a):> >> > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> >> > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> >> > Dear Rafal,> >> > Namaskar.> >> > But I have given the probable time as summer of 2005. Now just a > > thought about how clients want readings. See, in a quiz on marriage, > > for someone born in 1975, you have a very large segment of years in > > which the person can get married. In COVA, Sanjay Ji takes this > > approach. See, before starting the Jyotish analysis, when the native > > might get married based on his or her age and in the Desh-Kal-Patra. > > For example, when child marriage was in vogue in India, this exercise > > would have been many times tougher.> >> > When a client actually wants a reading, say today, the Jyotishi has > > the luxury of not looking at the past for possible times of marriage. > > Of course, the native may have been married before etc and all that > > can be seen or coupled with feedback.So, there is an inherent > > difference between a live reading for the client and a Jyotish > > exercise of this sort.> >> > Marriage analysis can even be distinguished say from Saptamsha > > analysis in the static sense, when one is trying to glean the number > > of progeny. That one may do even in the horoscope of a child. Timing > > is a different issue. So, what the client wants is an issue that > > stands on a quite different footing.> >> > In my email, I have given a very small window which appears to me to > > be a likely period. One that came out was March-May, 2005. But the AD > > of Scorpio follows in the Navamsha Narayan Dasha. I suppose you are > > asking me to choose between these two periods. Scorpio being the 7th > > House in the Navamsha becomes a stronger candidate than Libra to give > > the marriage. March-December as Ketu AD in the Vimshottari runs till > > 1st December, 2005. So maybe the period from 15.6.2005 to 1.12.2005 > > comes out to be a more likely period.> >> > The Gochar of Guru in the 2nd from Upapada is another factor that is a > > positive for this set of timing.> >> > If you notice, the Hora Lord for two successive TP charts is linked > > with the 7th House in either Rashi or Navamsha.> >> > Regards,> >> > Anurag Sharma> >> > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hare rama krsna*> > >> > > Dear Anuragji,> > >> > > Yes..thank You for the background beside Your tries. Please decide for> > > the one data, because that will be what the client will want from > > You in> > > the reading - one good try.> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz> > > SJC Guru> > > www.rohinaa. com> > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > >> > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > >> > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > >> > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> > > >> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > >> > > > Namaskar.> > > >> > > > The Upapada in the 6th House from the AL and Venus in the 6th from > > the> > > > AL can show some distancing in the marriage. This is especially so> > > > because Venus is in the 12th House in the Navamsha. As you have> > > > pointed out, the great strength of the 2nd Lord from the UL protects> > > > the marriage, forming Dharmakarmadhipati Yoga in the Rashi Chart.> > > >> > > > The native knew the girl before marriage as the lord of UL, Sun is> > > > placed in the A7 in the 10th House. There is Jara Yoga.> > > >> > > > The Chandra Vimshottari Dasha of Guru from 1998 is promising. Guru is> > > > also giving Argala to Navamsha Lagna which is not fully obstructed by> > > > Rahu though Rahu gives Vipreeta Argala of its own.> > > >> > > > The Antardashas of Mercury and Ketu are promising as they give Argala> > > > to the 7th House in the Navamsha. Mercury gives Argala to the 7th > > Lord> > > > also.> > > >> > > > Annual TP of 2002-2003 appears unlikely to have given marriage. > > Annual> > > > TP of 2003-2004 is more likely as the Lagna rising in the TP Rashi> > > > Chart is Dhanu and the Hora Lord Mars is placed in the 7th House in> > > > the Navamsha.> > > >> > > > The thing is that with this time Guru is transiting Upapada and he > > may> > > > have met the spouse at this time in late 2003.> > > >> > > > The annual TP of 2004-2005 has Leo Lagna rising which is in trines to> > > > natal Lagna and indicates an auspicious event. The Hora Lord Moon is> > > > in the 7th House indicating marriage. In the Navamsha, the Moon is> > > > placed in the 9th House of Bhagya as the Hora Lord, though afflicted> > > > by Ketu. Ketu Antardasha runs in Vimshottari and gives Vipreeta > > Argala> > > > to the 7th House. Ketu is also the 7th Lord of the Navamsha.> > > >> > > > Jupiter transits the 2nd House from the UL.> > > >> > > > Maybe the marriage happened from 30th March, 2005 to 22nd May, > > 2005 in> > > > the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of the Hora Lord Moon.> > > >> > > > The Navamsha Narayan Dasha of Taurus would be running which is the> > > > Lagna. Marriage is possible.> > > >> > > > Marriage at about 30 is possible as retrograde Venus is in the UL in> > > > Rashi chart and in the 12th House in the Navamsha Chart.> > > >> > > > The AD of Libra and Scorpio are both possible. In the AD of Scorpio,> > > > the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of Mars would be on. Mars lords the> > > > Navamsha Lagna. So summer of 2005 appears to be a possibility.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Anurag Sharma> > > >> > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > <http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com/>> > > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > > ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > > >> > > > > Dear Jyotisha's!> > > > >> > > > > We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see> > > > this mail:> > > > >> > > > > *Quiz:*> > > > >> > > > > *September 17, 1975> > > > > Time: 14:19:43> > > > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > Place: 19 E 50' 00", 54 N 23' 00"*> > > > >> > > > > Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house > > - they> > > > > meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to > > marriage and> > > > > he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). > > *Please> > > > > try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get> > > > > married*. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 > > and good> > > > > at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also).> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Rasi Lagna - Dhanus.> > > > > *> > > > > Navamsa Lagna - Taurus*.> > > > > (*rectified* - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is> > > > also> > > > > working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona).> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > SJC Guru> > > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > >> > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > > > >> > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > > >> > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members,> > > > > >> > > > > > That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I> > > > > > think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in > > SJC> > > > and> > > > > > discussed on the Lists.> > > > > >> > > > > > I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and > > Navamsha but> > > > > > this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method > > in his> > > > > > paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas.> > > > > > Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful > > approach can> > > > > > be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's > > lectures> > > > > > where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions.> > > > > >> > > > > > In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the> > > > native to> > > > > > commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing > > of this> > > > > > potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the > > Prashna and> > > > > > the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative> > > > > > approach in this regard.> > > > > >> > > > > > I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the> > > > > > relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, > > placed> > > > > > with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the> > > > > > Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very > > encouraging as> > > > > > Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the> > > > results of> > > > > > Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL > > placed in> > > > > > the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL.> > > > > >> > > > > > Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these> > > > > > matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be> > > > > > studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly > > help as it> > > > > > aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate > > events in> > > > > > this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP> > > > placed in> > > > > > UL in Rashi Chakra.> > > > > >> > > > > > Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in > > Navamsha> > > > and> > > > > > has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have > > unobstructed> > > > > > Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be > > a time> > > > > > for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari> > > > Dasha> > > > > > will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha.> > > > > >> > > > > > As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area > > of life> > > > > > appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the> > > > > > auspicious effects to come.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > > >> > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > > > > ...> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji> > > > > > >> > > > > > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA> > > > (here are> > > > > > > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar> > > > touching the> > > > > > > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari> > > > and A7> > > > > > > in D9 technique.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala)> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect > > this last> > > > > > > two, then You have many many dasas)> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa > > Pravesh> > > > > > Chakra> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was> > > > > > recomended> > > > > > > so far> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play> > > > role as> > > > > > > confirmer> > > > > > >> > > > > > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc..> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our> > > > > > Narasimha> > > > > > > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or > > someone from> > > > > > > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please> > > > kindly share> > > > > > > experience with us which of these points are important and many> > > > others> > > > > > > You may know.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > SJC Guru> > > > > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Amit Puri napisaÅ,(a):> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > !! Jai Ganesha !!> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > * à ¥?** * Ås(rÄ« MÄ?tre Namaḥ !> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Namskar Anurag ji> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! âEUR¦Can we > > narrow> > > > > > down some> > > > > > > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week> > > > of July> > > > > > > > 2007âEUR¦ and having good shadbala and more positive > > contributing> > > > > > bindu> > > > > > > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ??> > > > âEUR¦.> > > > > > Will> > > > > > > > wait for your comments> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Amit puri> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* > > <anuraagsharma27@> > > > > > > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Michal,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the > > Karma of> > > > > > > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the > > person might> > > > > > > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the > > Lagnesh and> > > > > > > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is > > worse in> > > > > > > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the > > Karma> > > > > > > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also> > > > > > > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is> > > > > > > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, > > being> > > > > > > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed > > in an> > > > > > > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could > > show coming> > > > > > > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana> > > > > > > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of> > > > > > > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be > > remedied. If> > > > > > > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably> > > > > > > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results > > as the> > > > > > > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. > > Some of> > > > > > > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject > > through> > > > > > > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the > > Dasha and> > > > > > > > the significance of the various permutations and > > combinations of> > > > > > > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This> > > > > > > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am> > > > > > > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater> > > > > > > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the > > learned> > > > > > > > scholars.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Best regards,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > > > > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < , Michal Dziwulski> > > > > > > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that> > > > neither> > > > > > > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her > > emotionally> > > > > > > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th > > from the> > > > > > > > Moon.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in > > Navamsa and> > > > > > > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Respectfully,> > > > > > > > > Michal> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ...> > > > > > > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com> > > > > > > > <sohamsa; Vedic Astrology List> > > > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology; Srijagannath> > > > > > > > <> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@> > > > > > > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM> > > > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a> > > > > > > > Desperate Girl> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya> > > > > > > > > Namah|> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai> > > > > > > > > Namah|> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Namaskar.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The most important facet of> > > > > > > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by > > the Graha> > > > > > > > Drishti of Rahu,> > > > > > > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the > > Naisargika Karaka> > > > > > > > of marriage,> > > > > > > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow > > and anger> > > > > > > > might manifest> > > > > > > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. > > The fact> > > > > > > > that Shukra is> > > > > > > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which > > invited the> > > > > > > > curse in the> > > > > > > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord)> > > > was not> > > > > > > > done with the> > > > > > > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be> > > > severe.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The curse can be remedied as> > > > > > > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for > > Rahu.> > > > > > > > Also, the fact> > > > > > > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed > > strength> > > > to its> > > > > > > > > significations.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Donation of an idol of> > > > > > > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, > > donating a> > > > > > > > bed for their> > > > > > > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to > > attempt> > > > > > > > to come out of> > > > > > > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will> > > > > > > > affect her> > > > > > > > > intelligence and being directly.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The debilitated malefic Mars> > > > > > > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is> > > > > > > > conjoined the A7, a> > > > > > > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would > > have> > > > > > > > been a headstrong> > > > > > > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox > > disapproval at> > > > > > > > home (Shani in> > > > > > > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to> > > > > > > > marry the person> > > > > > > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. > > The 2nd> > > > > > > > Lord from the UL,> > > > > > > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada.> > > > > > > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; > > 20:39:13;> > > > > > > > Dehradun, India.> > > > > > > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines > > to the> > > > > > > > natal 2nd UL> > > > > > > > > Kumbha.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Your recommendation of> > > > > > > > > fasting is correct and essential.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > She should also propitiate> > > > > > > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be> > > > > > > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other > > Mantra.> > > > > > > > Else, start her> > > > > > > > > with 1 Mala.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The exaltation of Venus in> > > > > > > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > This aspect of life is not> > > > > > > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in> > > > > > > > Rashi is also in> > > > > > > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and > > this UL> > > > > > > > are not too badly> > > > > > > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL > > and the> > > > > > > > 2nd House from> > > > > > > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Best Wishes,> > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > > > > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the> > > > > > > > > Articles page> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai namah> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Namaste Gurus,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Please find a request for> > > > > > > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get> > > > > > > > > married, but unable to find> > > > > > > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on> > > > > > > > > mondays (UL),> > > > > > > > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of> > > > > > > > > Jupiter> > > > > > > > > Mahadasa.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and> > > > > > > > > other co lord> > > > > > > > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun,> > > > > > > > > all this indicating that> > > > > > > > > the person will be from a good family and> > > > > > > > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9,> > > > > > > > > the mangal is srong in own house.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in> > > > > > > > > D9...> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help;> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Date:> > > > > > > > > November 18, 1977> > > > > > > > > Time:> > > > > > > > > 17:40:00> > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East> > > > > > > > > of GMT)> > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26> > > > > > > > > N 55' 10"> > > > > > > > > jaipur, , USA> > > > > > > > > Altitude: 425.00> > > > > > > > > meters> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Namaste> > > > > > > > > Gaurav Jain> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > <!--> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; 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Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 Dear Rafalji, He possibly got married between 25-04-04 and 17-08-2004. Jupiter MD, Mercury AD and Jupiter PD. Jupiter LL and 4L aspects the 7L at 10th house indicating that he got married after he was employed. Jupiter was also transiting Leo at that time. Regards Ravi Nair Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: hare rama krsnaDear Jyotisha's!We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see this mail:Quiz: September 17, 1975Time: 14:19:43Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 19 E 50' 00", 54 N 23' 00"Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house - they meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to marriage and he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). Please try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get married. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 and good at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also).Rasi Lagna - Dhanus.Navamsa Lagna - Taurus.(rectified - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is also working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona).Regards,Rafal GendarzSJC Guruwww.rohinaa.com(+48) 503 44 18 18 Anurag Sharma napisał(a): |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in SJC and discussed on the Lists. I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and Navamsha but this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method in his paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas. Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful approach can be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions. In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the native to commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing of this potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the Prashna and the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative approach in this regard. I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, placed with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very encouraging as Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the results of Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL placed in the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL. Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly help as it aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate events in this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP placed in UL in Rashi Chakra. Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in Navamsha and has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have unobstructed Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be a time for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari Dasha will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha. As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area of life appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the auspicious effects to come. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *hare rama krsna*> > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji> > They are many techniques for timing marriage like:> > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA> > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA (here are > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar touching the > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari and A7 > in D9 technique.> > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala)> > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect this last > two, then You have many many dasas)> > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit> > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was recomended > so far> > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play role as > confirmer> > of course there are many more like Sahams etc..> > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our Narasimha > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or someone from > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please kindly share > experience with us which of these points are important and many others > You may know.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> SJC Guru> www.rohinaa. com> (+48) 503 44 18 18> > Amit Puri napisaÅ‚(a):> >> > !! Jai Ganesha !!> >> > * à¥** * ÅšrÄ« MÄtre Namaḥ !> >> > Namskar Anurag ji> >> > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! …Can we narrow down some > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > >> > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week of July > > 2007… and having good shadbala and more positive contributing bindu > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? …. Will > > wait for your comments> >> > > > Amit puri> >> > > >> >> >> > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* <anuraagsharma27@ > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27 wrote:> >> > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> >> > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> >> > Dear Michal,> >> > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the Karma of> > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications.> >> > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the person might> > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the Lagnesh and> > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is worse in> > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the Karma> > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also> > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma.> >> > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is> > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, being> > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed in an> > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now.> >> > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could show coming> > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana> > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of> > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be remedied. If> > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably> > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results as the> > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. Some of> > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject through> > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the Dasha and> > the significance of the various permutations and combinations of> > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This> > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am> > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater> > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the learned> > scholars.> >> > Best regards,> >> > Anurag Sharma> >> > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com>> >> > > >> >> > > > < , Michal Dziwulski> > nearmichal@ ..> wrote:> > >> > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > >> > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav,> > >> > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that neither> > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved.> > >> > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her emotionally> > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th from the> > Moon.> > >> > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in Navamsa and> > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this?> > >> > > Respectfully,> > > Michal> > >> > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > >> > > ----- Original Message ----> > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ...> > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com> > <sohamsa; Vedic Astrology List> > vedic astrology> > <vedic- astrology; Srijagannath> > < > >> > > Cc: Me anuraag9@> > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a> > Desperate Girl> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > |Om Shreenivasaya> > > Namah|> > >> > > |Om Lakshmyai> > > Namah|> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Gaurav,> > >> > > Namaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > > The most important facet of> > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by the Graha> > Drishti of Rahu,> > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the Naisargika Karaka> > of marriage,> > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow and anger> > might manifest> > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. The fact> > that Shukra is> > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which invited the> > curse in the> > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) was not> > done with the> > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be severe.> > >> > >> > >> > > The curse can be remedied as> > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for Rahu.> > Also, the fact> > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed strength to its> > > significations.> > >> > >> > >> > > Donation of an idol of> > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, donating a> > bed for their> > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to attempt> > to come out of> > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will> > affect her> > > intelligence and being directly.> > >> > >> > >> > > The debilitated malefic Mars> > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is> > conjoined the A7, a> > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would have> > been a headstrong> > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox disapproval at> > home (Shani in> > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to> > marry the person> > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. The 2nd> > Lord from the UL,> > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury.> > >> > >> > >> > > She is on the 2nd Upapada.> > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; 20:39:13;> > Dehradun, India.> > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines to the> > natal 2nd UL> > > Kumbha.> > >> > >> > >> > > Your recommendation of> > > fasting is correct and essential.> > >> > >> > >> > > She should also propitiate> > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva.> > >> > >> > >> > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be> > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other Mantra.> > Else, start her> > > with 1 Mala.> > >> > >> > >> > > The exaltation of Venus in> > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya.> > >> > >> > >> > > This aspect of life is not> > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in> > Rashi is also in> > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and this UL> > are not too badly> > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL and the> > 2nd House from> > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation.> > >> > >> > >> > > Best Wishes,> > > Anurag Sharma> > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > >> > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the> > > Articles page> > >> > >> > > Aum Durgayai namah> > >> > > Namaste Gurus,> > >> > > Please find a request for> > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get> > > married, but unable to find> > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on> > > mondays (UL),> > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of> > > Jupiter> > > Mahadasa.> > >> > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and> > > other co lord> > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun,> > > all this indicating that> > > the person will be from a good family and> > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9,> > > the mangal is srong in own house.> > >> > >> > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in> > > D9...> > >> > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help;> > >> > > Date:> > > November 18, 1977> > > Time:> > > 17:40:00> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East> > > of GMT)> > > Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26> > > N 55' 10"> > > jaipur, , USA> > > Altitude: 425.00> > > meters> > >> > > Namaste> > > Gaurav Jain> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > <!--> > >> > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica,> > clean, sans-serif;}> > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;}> > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica,> > clean, sans-serif;}> > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;}> > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;}> > > #ygrp-text{> > > font-family: Georgia;> > > }> > > #ygrp-text p{> > > margin:0 0 1em 0;}> > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{> > > font-family: Arial;> > > clear:both;}> > > #ygrp-vitnav{> > > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;}> > > #ygrp-vitnav a{> > > padding:0 1px;}> > > #ygrp-actbar{> > > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text-> > align:right; }> > > #ygrp-actbar .left{> > > float:left;white- space:nowrap; }> > > .bld{font-weight: bold;}> > > #ygrp-grft{> > > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;}> > > #ygrp-ft{> > > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666;> > > padding:5px 0;> > > }> > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{> > > padding-bottom: 10px;}> > >> > > #ygrp-vital{> > > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px> > 8px;}> > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{> > > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold;> > color:#333; text-transform: uppercase; }> > > #ygrp-vital ul{> > > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;}> > > #ygrp-vital ul li{> > > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee;> > > }> > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{> > > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text-> > align:right; padding-right: .5em;}> > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{> > > font-weight: bold;}> > > #ygrp-vital a {> > > text-decoration: none;}> > >> > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{> > > text-decoration: underline; }> > >> > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{> > > color:#999;font- size:77%; }> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{> > > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{> > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; }> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{> > > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{> > > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc {> > > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{> > > padding:8px 0;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{> > > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size:> > 100%;line- height:122% ;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{> > > text-decoration: none;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{> > > text-decoration: underline; }> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{> > > margin:0;}> > > o {font-size:0; }> > > .MsoNormal {> > > margin:0 0 0 0;}> > > #ygrp-text tt{> > > font-size:120% ;}> > > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;}> > > .replbq {margin:4;}> > > -->> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________> > _________ _________ _________> > > Never miss an email again!> > > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives.> > > http://tools. search.. com/toolbar/ features/ mail/> > >> >> >> >> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? 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Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 !! Jai Ganesha !!ॠŚrÄ« MÄtre Namaḥ! Namskar Rafal jiRafal ji thanks for sending such a interesting chart There are very less chances of early marriage or bala vivha due to the following reason. The Upapada lagan lord in sankranti dosh.. The person is born on Wednesday so the 7th and 10th house come under chk and the day lord joined Sun in 10th house.. The 7th lord from venus in Ayush debility in 12th house i.e rahu in Vrischika .. Kartari on 7th house… These are major issue will help for future marital and profession prediction also.. So I am looking after 24 year for getting marriage and I found following dasa for marriage.. Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): Pi MD: 1990-09-17 (10:33:60 am) - 2002-09-17 (12:22:27 pm) Li AD: 2001-09-17 (6:16:09 am) - 2002-09-17 (12:22:27 pm) Ta PD: 2002-06-15 (5:34:34 pm) - 2002-07-17 (4:23:54 am) High lighted portion i.e 15-6-2002 to 17-7-2002... considering as marriage period.. I applied one simple rule of Naryana dasa will wait for your answer ,, Regards, Amit Puri On 13 Apr 2007 07:45:14 -0700, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: hare rama krsna Dear Jyotisha's! We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see this mail: Quiz: September 17, 1975 Time: 14:19:43 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 19 E 50' 00 " , 54 N 23' 00 " Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house - they meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to marriage and he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). Please try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get married. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 and good at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also). Rasi Lagna - Dhanus. Navamsa Lagna - Taurus. (rectified - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is also working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona). Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Guru www.rohinaa.com (+48) 503 44 18 18 Anurag Sharma napisaÅ‚(a): |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in SJC and discussed on the Lists. I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and Navamsha but this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method in his paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas. Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful approach can be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions. In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the native to commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing of this potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the Prashna and the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative approach in this regard. I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, placed with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very encouraging as Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the results of Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL placed in the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL. Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly help as it aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate events in this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP placed in UL in Rashi Chakra. Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in Navamsha and has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have unobstructed Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be a time for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari Dasha will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha. As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area of life appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the auspicious effects to come. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ....> wrote: > > *hare rama krsna* > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like: > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA (here are > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar touching the > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari and A7 > in D9 technique. > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala) > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect this last > two, then You have many many dasas) > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was recomended > so far > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play role as > confirmer > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc.. > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our Narasimha > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or someone from > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please kindly share > experience with us which of these points are important and many others > You may know. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Guru > www.rohinaa. com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Amit Puri napisaÅ‚(a): > > > > !! Jai Ganesha !! > > > > * à ¥Â** * Ã…Å¡rÄ« MÄÂtre Namaḥ ! > > > > Namskar Anurag ji > > > > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! …Can we narrow down some > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > > > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week of July > > 2007… and having good shadbala and more positive contributing bindu > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? …. Will > > wait for your comments > > > > > > Amit puri > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* <anuraagsharma27@ > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27 wrote: > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the Karma of > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications. > > > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the person might > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the Lagnesh and > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is worse in > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the Karma > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma. > > > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, being > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed in an > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now. > > > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could show coming > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be remedied. If > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results as the > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. Some of > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject through > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the Dasha and > > the significance of the various permutations and combinations of > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the learned > > scholars. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > < , Michal Dziwulski > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav, > > > > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that neither > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved. > > > > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her emotionally > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th from the > > Moon. > > > > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in Navamsa and > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this? > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ... > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa; Vedic Astrology List > > vedic astrology > > <vedic- astrology; Srijagannath > > < > > > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@ > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a > > Desperate Girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya > > > Namah| > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav, > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > The most important facet of > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by the Graha > > Drishti of Rahu, > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the Naisargika Karaka > > of marriage, > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow and anger > > might manifest > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. The fact > > that Shukra is > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which invited the > > curse in the > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) was not > > done with the > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > The curse can be remedied as > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for Rahu. > > Also, the fact > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed strength to its > > > significations. > > > > > > > > > > > > Donation of an idol of > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, donating a > > bed for their > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to attempt > > to come out of > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will > > affect her > > > intelligence and being directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > The debilitated malefic Mars > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is > > conjoined the A7, a > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would have > > been a headstrong > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox disapproval at > > home (Shani in > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to > > marry the person > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. The 2nd > > Lord from the UL, > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada. > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; 20:39:13; > > Dehradun, India. > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines to the > > natal 2nd UL > > > Kumbha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your recommendation of > > > fasting is correct and essential. > > > > > > > > > > > > She should also propitiate > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other Mantra. > > Else, start her > > > with 1 Mala. > > > > > > > > > > > > The exaltation of Venus in > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > This aspect of life is not > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in > > Rashi is also in > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and this UL > > are not too badly > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL and the > > 2nd House from > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Anurag Sharma > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the > > > Articles page > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai namah > > > > > > Namaste Gurus, > > > > > > Please find a request for > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get > > > married, but unable to find > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on > > > mondays (UL), > > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of > > > Jupiter > > > Mahadasa. > > > > > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and > > > other co lord > > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun, > > > all this indicating that > > > the person will be from a good family and > > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9, > > > the mangal is srong in own house. > > > > > > > > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in > > > D9... > > > > > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help; > > > > > > Date: > > > November 18, 1977 > > > Time: > > > 17:40:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East > > > of GMT) > > > Place: 75 E 49' 10 " , 26 > > > N 55' 10 " > > > jaipur, , USA > > > Altitude: 425.00 > > > meters > > > > > > Namaste > > > Gaurav Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, > > clean, sans-serif;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, > > clean, sans-serif;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > > > #ygrp-text{ > > > font-family: Georgia; > > > } > > > #ygrp-text p{ > > > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > > > font-family: Arial; > > > clear:both;} > > > #ygrp-vitnav{ > > > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} > > > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > > > padding:0 1px;} > > > #ygrp-actbar{ > > > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- > > align:right; } > > > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > > > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > > > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > > > #ygrp-grft{ > > > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > > > #ygrp-ft{ > > > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; > > > padding:5px 0; > > > } > > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > > > padding-bottom: 10px;} > > > > > > #ygrp-vital{ > > > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px > > 8px;} > > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > > > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; > > color:#333; text-transform: uppercase; } > > > #ygrp-vital ul{ > > > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > > > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > > > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > > > } > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > > > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- > > align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > > > font-weight: bold;} > > > #ygrp-vital a { > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > > > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > > > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > > > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > > > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > > > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > > > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > > > padding:8px 0;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > > > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size: > > 100%;line- height:122% ;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > > > margin:0;} > > > o {font-size:0; } > > > .MsoNormal { > > > margin:0 0 0 0;} > > > #ygrp-text tt{ > > > font-size:120% ;} > > > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > > > .replbq {margin:4;} > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > _________ _________ _________ > > > Never miss an email again! > > > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. > > > http://tools. search.. com/toolbar/ features/ mail/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 hare rama krsna Dear Anuragji, Yes..in COVA Sanjayji states that Vimshottari can give many options, so there is Upadesa to work with Narayana, but if You did some reading then You will also see (and there is also some example in COVA I suppose) that Bhaya Rasi can also give marriage. Of course then Sanjayji states many other confirmations like to see Dasa Rasi from : a) Moon b) AL c) Darakaraka/Venus..and I found this quite problematic as I saw some charts when the Dasa Rasi of marriage was 6 from AL etc. #1 That is one group of methods which all are welcomed to comment. Next : # 2 How is Your experience with Narayana Dasa in D9 (of course counting from seventh lord)? Which points are You using? I found that Dasa Rasi in Kendra to Surya activates relationships. Example: June 24, 1983 Time: 18:57:01 Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 19 E 03' 10", 50 N 17' 10" * Here the Ta-Ge period give relationship (2nd Upapada). Ge is in kendra & aspected by Sun and 2H (2nd relation). It was shortlasted because of 8H position of starting (Ge is eight bhava) & the native was accused of being not responsible enough(3L in Lagna - Sani). But for example in next period of CN - which is 3nd relation (9 house) native hasnt any relationship..one can say that there is 8L, but in 8H period there was relationship (Ge)..maybe Moon in sixth with Ketu was too strong combo. Now is Leo he is very desirous of relationship (Ve in seventh) and there is aspect of A9 (third relation)..its also Kendra to Mahadasa. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Guru www.rohinaa.com (+48) 503 44 18 18 Anurag Sharma napisał(a): |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Rafal, Quite true. I agree. Logically, this is an eminent possibility and in that case the present quiz will be remarkably similar if not identical to that situation. So, the best thing to do would be, no matter how hard it is, to explore whatever periods appear likely and pick one out of those. The benefit in this kind of an exercise is that the 'tools' of analysis are refreshed even though the factual answer may or may not be correct. There is an element of irony in this situation for me. In my own horoscope, which I examine quite frequently, and accomplished Jyotishis on this List and elsewhere have analysed the chart too, so many divergent opinions seem to come out even regarding the static aspects of marriage. Of course, just as the Jyotishi cannot pose his own queries and answer his own Prashna: Sanjay Ji says it does not work that way, even others have a different take based on the same Yogas. And this is about static aspects. Timing is even tougher I guess. Regarding Vimshottari, I think I recall Sanjay Ji writing in COVA in one chart that Vimshottari gave so many possible periods of marrige that it was only Narayan Dasha that could be relied on. I am not certain but perhaps that was the chart of his first wife. So, I agree with you about your views on the Vimshottari. The solemnization of the marriage might not be seen from this Dasha. At least not as a rule, as it is mind centric and can show emotional stimuli and reactions that may go on to constitute courtship. In a lighter vein, and after agreeing with you, if a 17 year old would come to me about his marriage, I would advise him to focus on his studies instead, much as we do not analyse Prashna elaborately when it does not satisfy the rules. No, but more seriously, we have to grapple with this problem of identifying possible periods for marriage. In all the books that we read, it is always about possible periods rather than a very definite period. Many planets and periods seem to become candidates and finally you pick the best or a couple of the best. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ....> wrote: > > *hare rama krsna* > > Dear Anuragji, > > #1 This quiz rather is more similar to situation when the parents of > child comes to You as Daivajna and ask this question when the person > will get married, this of course can be important to manage reasonably > the years in life with events. In my history I see that timing of > marriage is very hard task because it also appeals to the official side > of the relationship, Vimshottari used with D9 can show us clearly when > one will meet the partner=dating, but the final decision to marry can be > not so simply seen. Especially when no yajna is conducted. > > #2 THEREFORE: I see no special difference between this quiz and reading > in live. Because the client will ask You when He will marry (and all > Jyotisha's know - its very often question coming from the clients) - so > just imagine this person comes to You at age of 17 and ask You for reading. > > #3 In the monday I will give the answer. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Guru > www.rohinaa. com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Anurag Sharma napisaÅ‚(a): > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > Namaskar. > > > > But I have given the probable time as summer of 2005. Now just a > > thought about how clients want readings. See, in a quiz on marriage, > > for someone born in 1975, you have a very large segment of years in > > which the person can get married. In COVA, Sanjay Ji takes this > > approach. See, before starting the Jyotish analysis, when the native > > might get married based on his or her age and in the Desh-Kal-Patra. > > For example, when child marriage was in vogue in India, this exercise > > would have been many times tougher. > > > > When a client actually wants a reading, say today, the Jyotishi has > > the luxury of not looking at the past for possible times of marriage. > > Of course, the native may have been married before etc and all that > > can be seen or coupled with feedback.So, there is an inherent > > difference between a live reading for the client and a Jyotish > > exercise of this sort. > > > > Marriage analysis can even be distinguished say from Saptamsha > > analysis in the static sense, when one is trying to glean the number > > of progeny. That one may do even in the horoscope of a child. Timing > > is a different issue. So, what the client wants is an issue that > > stands on a quite different footing. > > > > In my email, I have given a very small window which appears to me to > > be a likely period. One that came out was March-May, 2005. But the AD > > of Scorpio follows in the Navamsha Narayan Dasha. I suppose you are > > asking me to choose between these two periods. Scorpio being the 7th > > House in the Navamsha becomes a stronger candidate than Libra to give > > the marriage. March-December as Ketu AD in the Vimshottari runs till > > 1st December, 2005. So maybe the period from 15.6.2005 to 1.12.2005 > > comes out to be a more likely period. > > > > The Gochar of Guru in the 2nd from Upapada is another factor that is a > > positive for this set of timing. > > > > If you notice, the Hora Lord for two successive TP charts is linked > > with the 7th House in either Rashi or Navamsha. > > > > Regards, > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > Dear Anuragji, > > > > > > Yes..thank You for the background beside Your tries. Please decide for > > > the one data, because that will be what the client will want from > > You in > > > the reading - one good try. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Guru > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > The Upapada in the 6th House from the AL and Venus in the 6th from > > the > > > > AL can show some distancing in the marriage. This is especially so > > > > because Venus is in the 12th House in the Navamsha. As you have > > > > pointed out, the great strength of the 2nd Lord from the UL protects > > > > the marriage, forming Dharmakarmadhipati Yoga in the Rashi Chart. > > > > > > > > The native knew the girl before marriage as the lord of UL, Sun is > > > > placed in the A7 in the 10th House. There is Jara Yoga. > > > > > > > > The Chandra Vimshottari Dasha of Guru from 1998 is promising. Guru is > > > > also giving Argala to Navamsha Lagna which is not fully obstructed by > > > > Rahu though Rahu gives Vipreeta Argala of its own. > > > > > > > > The Antardashas of Mercury and Ketu are promising as they give Argala > > > > to the 7th House in the Navamsha. Mercury gives Argala to the 7th > > Lord > > > > also. > > > > > > > > Annual TP of 2002-2003 appears unlikely to have given marriage. > > Annual > > > > TP of 2003-2004 is more likely as the Lagna rising in the TP Rashi > > > > Chart is Dhanu and the Hora Lord Mars is placed in the 7th House in > > > > the Navamsha. > > > > > > > > The thing is that with this time Guru is transiting Upapada and he > > may > > > > have met the spouse at this time in late 2003. > > > > > > > > The annual TP of 2004-2005 has Leo Lagna rising which is in trines to > > > > natal Lagna and indicates an auspicious event. The Hora Lord Moon is > > > > in the 7th House indicating marriage. In the Navamsha, the Moon is > > > > placed in the 9th House of Bhagya as the Hora Lord, though afflicted > > > > by Ketu. Ketu Antardasha runs in Vimshottari and gives Vipreeta > > Argala > > > > to the 7th House. Ketu is also the 7th Lord of the Navamsha. > > > > > > > > Jupiter transits the 2nd House from the UL. > > > > > > > > Maybe the marriage happened from 30th March, 2005 to 22nd May, > > 2005 in > > > > the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of the Hora Lord Moon. > > > > > > > > The Navamsha Narayan Dasha of Taurus would be running which is the > > > > Lagna. Marriage is possible. > > > > > > > > Marriage at about 30 is possible as retrograde Venus is in the UL in > > > > Rashi chart and in the 12th House in the Navamsha Chart. > > > > > > > > The AD of Libra and Scorpio are both possible. In the AD of Scorpio, > > > > the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of Mars would be on. Mars lords the > > > > Navamsha Lagna. So summer of 2005 appears to be a possibility. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > <http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com/> > > > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jyotisha's! > > > > > > > > > > We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see > > > > this mail: > > > > > > > > > > *Quiz:* > > > > > > > > > > *September 17, 1975 > > > > > Time: 14:19:43 > > > > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > Place: 19 E 50' 00", 54 N 23' 00"* > > > > > > > > > > Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house > > - they > > > > > meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to > > marriage and > > > > > he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). > > *Please > > > > > try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get > > > > > married*. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 > > and good > > > > > at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rasi Lagna - Dhanus. > > > > > * > > > > > Navamsa Lagna - Taurus*. > > > > > (*rectified* - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is > > > > also > > > > > working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > SJC Guru > > > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, > > > > > > > > > > > > That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I > > > > > > think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in > > SJC > > > > and > > > > > > discussed on the Lists. > > > > > > > > > > > > I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and > > Navamsha but > > > > > > this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method > > in his > > > > > > paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas. > > > > > > Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful > > approach can > > > > > > be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's > > lectures > > > > > > where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the > > > > native to > > > > > > commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing > > of this > > > > > > potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the > > Prashna and > > > > > > the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative > > > > > > approach in this regard. > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the > > > > > > relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, > > placed > > > > > > with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the > > > > > > Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very > > encouraging as > > > > > > Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the > > > > results of > > > > > > Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL > > placed in > > > > > > the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL. > > > > > > > > > > > > Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these > > > > > > matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be > > > > > > studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly > > help as it > > > > > > aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate > > events in > > > > > > this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP > > > > placed in > > > > > > UL in Rashi Chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in > > Navamsha > > > > and > > > > > > has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have > > unobstructed > > > > > > Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be > > a time > > > > > > for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari > > > > Dasha > > > > > > will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area > > of life > > > > > > appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the > > > > > > auspicious effects to come. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA > > > > (here are > > > > > > > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar > > > > touching the > > > > > > > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari > > > > and A7 > > > > > > > in D9 technique. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect > > this last > > > > > > > two, then You have many many dasas) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa > > Pravesh > > > > > > Chakra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was > > > > > > recomended > > > > > > > so far > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play > > > > role as > > > > > > > confirmer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or > > someone from > > > > > > > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please > > > > kindly share > > > > > > > experience with us which of these points are important and many > > > > others > > > > > > > You may know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > SJC Guru > > > > > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit Puri napisaÃ…,(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > !! Jai Ganesha !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * à ¥?** * Ã…s(rÄ« MÄ?tre Namaḥ ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namskar Anurag ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! âEUR¦Can we > > narrow > > > > > > down some > > > > > > > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week > > > > of July > > > > > > > > 2007âEUR¦ and having good shadbala and more positive > > contributing > > > > > > bindu > > > > > > > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? > > > > âEUR¦. > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > > wait for your comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit puri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* > > <anuraagsharma27@ > > > > > > > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the > > Karma of > > > > > > > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the > > person might > > > > > > > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the > > Lagnesh and > > > > > > > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is > > worse in > > > > > > > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the > > Karma > > > > > > > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also > > > > > > > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is > > > > > > > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, > > being > > > > > > > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed > > in an > > > > > > > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could > > show coming > > > > > > > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana > > > > > > > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of > > > > > > > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be > > remedied. If > > > > > > > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably > > > > > > > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results > > as the > > > > > > > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. > > Some of > > > > > > > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject > > through > > > > > > > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the > > Dasha and > > > > > > > > the significance of the various permutations and > > combinations of > > > > > > > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This > > > > > > > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am > > > > > > > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater > > > > > > > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the > > learned > > > > > > > > scholars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @ . com > > > > > > > > < , Michal Dziwulski > > > > > > > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that > > > > neither > > > > > > > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her > > emotionally > > > > > > > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th > > from the > > > > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in > > Navamsa and > > > > > > > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ... > > > > > > > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > <sohamsa@ . com; Vedic Astrology List > > > > > > > > vedic astrology@ . com > > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology@ . com; Srijagannath > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@ > > > > > > > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM > > > > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a > > > > > > > > Desperate Girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya > > > > > > > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai > > > > > > > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most important facet of > > > > > > > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by > > the Graha > > > > > > > > Drishti of Rahu, > > > > > > > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the > > Naisargika Karaka > > > > > > > > of marriage, > > > > > > > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow > > and anger > > > > > > > > might manifest > > > > > > > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. > > The fact > > > > > > > > that Shukra is > > > > > > > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which > > invited the > > > > > > > > curse in the > > > > > > > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) > > > > was not > > > > > > > > done with the > > > > > > > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be > > > > severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The curse can be remedied as > > > > > > > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > Also, the fact > > > > > > > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed > > strength > > > > to its > > > > > > > > > significations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donation of an idol of > > > > > > > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, > > donating a > > > > > > > > bed for their > > > > > > > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to > > attempt > > > > > > > > to come out of > > > > > > > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will > > > > > > > > affect her > > > > > > > > > intelligence and being directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The debilitated malefic Mars > > > > > > > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is > > > > > > > > conjoined the A7, a > > > > > > > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would > > have > > > > > > > > been a headstrong > > > > > > > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox > > disapproval at > > > > > > > > home (Shani in > > > > > > > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to > > > > > > > > marry the person > > > > > > > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. > > The 2nd > > > > > > > > Lord from the UL, > > > > > > > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada. > > > > > > > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; > > 20:39:13; > > > > > > > > Dehradun, India. > > > > > > > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines > > to the > > > > > > > > natal 2nd UL > > > > > > > > > Kumbha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your recommendation of > > > > > > > > > fasting is correct and essential. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She should also propitiate > > > > > > > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be > > > > > > > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other > > Mantra. > > > > > > > > Else, start her > > > > > > > > > with 1 Mala. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The exaltation of Venus in > > > > > > > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This aspect of life is not > > > > > > > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in > > > > > > > > Rashi is also in > > > > > > > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and > > this UL > > > > > > > > are not too badly > > > > > > > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL > > and the > > > > > > > > 2nd House from > > > > > > > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the > > > > > > > > > Articles page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Gurus, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please find a request for > > > > > > > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get > > > > > > > > > married, but unable to find > > > > > > > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on > > > > > > > > > mondays (UL), > > > > > > > > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of > > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > Mahadasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and > > > > > > > > > other co lord > > > > > > > > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun, > > > > > > > > > all this indicating that > > > > > > > > > the person will be from a good family and > > > > > > > > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9, > > > > > > > > > the mangal is srong in own house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in > > > > > > > > > D9... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: > > > > > > > > > November 18, 1977 > > > > > > > > > Time: > > > > > > > > > 17:40:00 > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East > > > > > > > > > of GMT) > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26 > > > > > > > > > N 55' 10" > > > > > > > > > jaipur, , USA > > > > > > > > > Altitude: 425.00 > > > > > > > > > meters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > Gaurav Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; 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Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 hare rama krsna Dear Amitji, Thank You..as You know in Monday I will give the answer. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Guru www.rohinaa.com (+48) 503 44 18 18 Amit Puri napisaÅ‚(a): !! Jai Ganesha !! ॠŚrÄ« MÄtre Namaḥ!  Namskar Rafal ji Rafal ji thanks for sending such a interesting chart  There are very less chances of early marriage or bala vivha due to the following reason. The Upapada lagan lord in sankranti dosh.. The person is born on Wednesday so the 7th and 10th house come under chk and the day  lord joined Sun in 10th house.. The 7th lord from venus in Ayush debility in 12th house i.e rahu in Vrischika .. Kartari on 7th house…   These are major issue will help for future marital and profession prediction also..  So I am looking after 24 year for getting marriage and I found following dasa for marriage..  Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):  Pi MD: 1990-09-17 (10:33:60 am) - 2002-09-17 (12:22:27 pm)  Li AD: 2001-09-17 (6:16:09 am) - 2002-09-17 (12:22:27 pm)   Ta PD: 2002-06-15 (5:34:34 pm) - 2002-07-17 (4:23:54 am)  High lighted portion i.e 15-6-2002 to 17-7-2002... considering as marriage period.. I applied one simple rule of Naryana dasa will wait for your answer ,,  Regards,  Amit Puri On 13 Apr 2007 07:45:14 -0700, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: hare rama krsna Dear Jyotisha's! We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see this mail: Quiz: Date:         September 17, 1975 Time:         14:19:43 Time Zone:    1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        19 E 50' 00", 54 N 23' 00" Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house - they meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to marriage and he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). Please try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get married . She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 and good at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also). Rasi Lagna - Dhanus. Navamsa Lagna - Taurus . (rectified - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is also working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona). Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Guru www.rohinaa. com (+48) 503 44 18 18 Anurag Sharma napisaÅ‚(a): |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in SJC and discussed on the Lists. I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and Navamsha but this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method in his paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas. Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful approach can be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions. In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the native to commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing of this potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the Prashna and the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative approach in this regard. I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, placed with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very encouraging as Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the results of Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL placed in the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL. Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly help as it aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate events in this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP placed in UL in Rashi Chakra. Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in Navamsha and has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have unobstructed Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be a time for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari Dasha will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha. As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area of life appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the auspicious effects to come. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ....> wrote: > > *hare rama krsna* > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like: > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA (here are > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar touching the > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari and A7 > in D9 technique. > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala) > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect this last > two, then You have many many dasas) > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was recomended > so far > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play role as > confirmer > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc.. > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our Narasimha > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or someone from > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please kindly share > experience with us which of these points are important and many others > You may know. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Guru > www.rohinaa. com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Amit Puri napisaÅ‚(a): > > > > !! Jai Ganesha !! > > > > * à ¥Â** * Ã…Å¡rÄ« MÄÂtre Namaḥ ! > > > > Namskar Anurag ji > > > > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! …Can we narrow down some > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > > > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week of July > > 2007… and having good shadbala and more positive contributing bindu > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? …. Will > > wait for your comments > > > > > > Amit puri > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* <anuraagsharma27@ > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27 wrote: > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the Karma of > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications. > > > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the person might > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the Lagnesh and > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is worse in > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the Karma > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma. > > > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, being > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed in an > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now. > > > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could show coming > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be remedied. If > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results as the > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. Some of > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject through > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the Dasha and > > the significance of the various permutations and combinations of > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the learned > > scholars. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > < , Michal Dziwulski > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav, > > > > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that neither > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved. > > > > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her emotionally > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th from the > > Moon. > > > > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in Navamsa and > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this? > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ... > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa@ . com; Vedic Astrology List > > vedic astrology > > <vedic- astrology@ . com; Srijagannath > > < > > > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@ > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a > > Desperate Girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya > > > Namah| > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav, > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > The most important facet of > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by the Graha > > Drishti of Rahu, > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the Naisargika Karaka > > of marriage, > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow and anger > > might manifest > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. The fact > > that Shukra is > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which invited the > > curse in the > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) was not > > done with the > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > The curse can be remedied as > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for Rahu. > > Also, the fact > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed strength to its > > > significations. > > > > > > > > > > > > Donation of an idol of > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, donating a > > bed for their > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to attempt > > to come out of > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will > > affect her > > > intelligence and being directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > The debilitated malefic Mars > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is > > conjoined the A7, a > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would have > > been a headstrong > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox disapproval at > > home (Shani in > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to > > marry the person > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. The 2nd > > Lord from the UL, > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada. > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; 20:39:13; > > Dehradun, India. > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines to the > > natal 2nd UL > > > Kumbha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your recommendation of > > > fasting is correct and essential. > > > > > > > > > > > > She should also propitiate > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other Mantra. > > Else, start her > > > with 1 Mala. > > > > > > > > > > > > The exaltation of Venus in > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > This aspect of life is not > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in > > Rashi is also in > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and this UL > > are not too badly > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL and the > > 2nd House from > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Anurag Sharma > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the > > > Articles page > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai namah > > > > > > Namaste Gurus, > > > > > > Please find a request for > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get > > > married, but unable to find > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on > > > mondays (UL), > > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of > > > Jupiter > > > Mahadasa. > > > > > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and > > > other co lord > > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun, > > > all this indicating that > > > the person will be from a good family and > > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9, > > > the mangal is srong in own house. > > > > > > > > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in > > > D9... > > > > > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help; > > > > > > Date: > > > November 18, 1977 > > > Time: > > > 17:40:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East > > > of GMT) > > > Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26 > > > N 55' 10" > > > jaipur, , USA > > > Altitude: 425.00 > > > meters > > > > > > Namaste > > > Gaurav Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, > > clean, sans-serif;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, > > clean, sans-serif;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > > > #ygrp-text{ > > > font-family: Georgia; > > > } > > > #ygrp-text p{ > > > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > > > font-family: Arial; > > > clear:both;} > > > #ygrp-vitnav{ > > > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} > > > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > > > padding:0 1px;} > > > #ygrp-actbar{ > > > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- > > align:right; } > > > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > > > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > > > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > > > #ygrp-grft{ > > > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > > > #ygrp-ft{ > > > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; > > > padding:5px 0; > > > } > > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > > > padding-bottom: 10px;} > > > > > > #ygrp-vital{ > > > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px > > 8px;} > > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > > > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; > > color:#333; text-transform: uppercase; } > > > #ygrp-vital ul{ > > > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > > > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > > > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > > > } > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > > > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- > > align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > > > font-weight: bold;} > > > #ygrp-vital a { > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > > > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > > > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > > > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > > > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > > > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > > > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > > > padding:8px 0;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > > > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size: > > 100%;line- height:122% ;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > > > margin:0;} > > > o {font-size:0; } > > > .MsoNormal { > > > margin:0 0 0 0;} > > > #ygrp-text tt{ > > > font-size:120% ;} > > > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > > > .replbq {margin:4;} > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > _________ _________ _________ > > > Never miss an email again! > > > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. > > > http://tools. search.. com/toolbar/ features/ mail/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 |Om Namo Narasimhaaya| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Rafal, Namaskar. In the Narayan Dasha book Sanjay Ji had taught that the 9th Lord of Rashi in the Navamsha should be taken as the Dasha seed and the 7th Lord of Rashi should be similarly taken in the Saptamsha. The rationale given was that marriage was a function of Dharma and progeny was a fruit of marriage. These are the settings I use; I think they are the default settings in JHora. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com--- In , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hare rama krsna*> > Dear Anuragji,> > Yes..in COVA Sanjayji states that Vimshottari can give many options, so > there is Upadesa to work with Narayana, but if You did some reading then > You will also see (and there is also some example in COVA I suppose) > that Bhaya Rasi can also give marriage. Of course then Sanjayji states > many other confirmations like to see Dasa Rasi from : a) Moon b) AL c) > Darakaraka/Venus..and I found this quite problematic as I saw some > charts when the Dasa Rasi of marriage was 6 from AL etc.> > #1 That is one group of methods which all are welcomed to comment.> > Next :> > *# 2 How is Your experience with Narayana Dasa in D9 (of course counting > from seventh lord)? Which points are You using? I found that Dasa Rasi > in Kendra to Surya activates relationships.> > Example:> > June 24, 1983> Time: 18:57:01> Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 19 E 03' 10", 50 N 17' 10"> > * Here the Ta-Ge period give relationship (2nd Upapada). Ge is in kendra > & aspected by Sun and 2H (2nd relation). It was shortlasted because of > 8H position of starting (Ge is eight bhava) & the native was accused of > being not responsible enough(3L in Lagna - Sani).> > But for example in next period of CN - which is 3nd relation (9 house) > native hasnt any relationship..one can say that there is 8L, but in 8H > period there was relationship (Ge)..maybe Moon in sixth with Ketu was > too strong combo. Now is Leo he is very desirous of relationship (Ve in > seventh) and there is aspect of A9 (third relation)..its also Kendra to > Mahadasa.> > *> Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> SJC Guru> www.rohinaa.com> (+48) 503 44 18 18> > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> >> > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> >> > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> >> > Dear Rafal,> >> > Quite true. I agree. Logically, this is an eminent possibility and in > > that case the present quiz will be remarkably similar if not identical > > to that situation. So, the best thing to do would be, no matter how > > hard it is, to explore whatever periods appear likely and pick one out > > of those. The benefit in this kind of an exercise is that the 'tools' > > of analysis are refreshed even though the factual answer may or may > > not be correct.> >> > There is an element of irony in this situation for me. In my own > > horoscope, which I examine quite frequently, and accomplished > > Jyotishis on this List and elsewhere have analysed the chart too, so > > many divergent opinions seem to come out even regarding the static > > aspects of marriage. Of course, just as the Jyotishi cannot pose his > > own queries and answer his own Prashna: Sanjay Ji says it does not > > work that way, even others have a different take based on the same > > Yogas. And this is about static aspects. Timing is even tougher I guess.> >> > Regarding Vimshottari, I think I recall Sanjay Ji writing in COVA in > > one chart that Vimshottari gave so many possible periods of marrige > > that it was only Narayan Dasha that could be relied on. I am not > > certain but perhaps that was the chart of his first wife. So, I agree > > with you about your views on the Vimshottari. The solemnization of the > > marriage might not be seen from this Dasha. At least not as a rule, as > > it is mind centric and can show emotional stimuli and reactions that > > may go on to constitute courtship.> >> > In a lighter vein, and after agreeing with you, if a 17 year old would > > come to me about his marriage, I would advise him to focus on his > > studies instead, much as we do not analyse Prashna elaborately when it > > does not satisfy the rules. No, but more seriously, we have to grapple > > with this problem of identifying possible periods for marriage. In all > > the books that we read, it is always about possible periods rather > > than a very definite period. Many planets and periods seem to become > > candidates and finally you pick the best or a couple of the best.> >> > Regards,> >> > Anurag Sharma> >> > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> >> >> > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hare rama krsna*> > >> > > Dear Anuragji,> > >> > > #1 This quiz rather is more similar to situation when the parents of> > > child comes to You as Daivajna and ask this question when the person> > > will get married, this of course can be important to manage reasonably> > > the years in life with events. In my history I see that timing of> > > marriage is very hard task because it also appeals to the official side> > > of the relationship, Vimshottari used with D9 can show us clearly when> > > one will meet the partner=dating, but the final decision to marry > > can be> > > not so simply seen. Especially when no yajna is conducted.> > >> > > #2 THEREFORE: I see no special difference between this quiz and reading> > > in live. Because the client will ask You when He will marry (and all> > > Jyotisha's know - its very often question coming from the clients) - so> > > just imagine this person comes to You at age of 17 and ask You for > > reading.> > >> > > #3 In the monday I will give the answer.> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz> > > SJC Guru> > > www.rohinaa. com> > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > >> > > Anurag Sharma napisaÅ,(a):> > > >> > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > >> > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> > > >> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > >> > > > Namaskar.> > > >> > > > But I have given the probable time as summer of 2005. Now just a> > > > thought about how clients want readings. See, in a quiz on marriage,> > > > for someone born in 1975, you have a very large segment of years in> > > > which the person can get married. In COVA, Sanjay Ji takes this> > > > approach. See, before starting the Jyotish analysis, when the native> > > > might get married based on his or her age and in the Desh-Kal-Patra.> > > > For example, when child marriage was in vogue in India, this exercise> > > > would have been many times tougher.> > > >> > > > When a client actually wants a reading, say today, the Jyotishi has> > > > the luxury of not looking at the past for possible times of marriage.> > > > Of course, the native may have been married before etc and all that> > > > can be seen or coupled with feedback.So, there is an inherent> > > > difference between a live reading for the client and a Jyotish> > > > exercise of this sort.> > > >> > > > Marriage analysis can even be distinguished say from Saptamsha> > > > analysis in the static sense, when one is trying to glean the number> > > > of progeny. That one may do even in the horoscope of a child. Timing> > > > is a different issue. So, what the client wants is an issue that> > > > stands on a quite different footing.> > > >> > > > In my email, I have given a very small window which appears to me to> > > > be a likely period. One that came out was March-May, 2005. But the AD> > > > of Scorpio follows in the Navamsha Narayan Dasha. I suppose you are> > > > asking me to choose between these two periods. Scorpio being the 7th> > > > House in the Navamsha becomes a stronger candidate than Libra to give> > > > the marriage. March-December as Ketu AD in the Vimshottari runs till> > > > 1st December, 2005. So maybe the period from 15.6.2005 to 1.12.2005> > > > comes out to be a more likely period.> > > >> > > > The Gochar of Guru in the 2nd from Upapada is another factor that > > is a> > > > positive for this set of timing.> > > >> > > > If you notice, the Hora Lord for two successive TP charts is linked> > > > with the 7th House in either Rashi or Navamsha.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Anurag Sharma> > > >> > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > > ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > > >> > > > > Dear Anuragji,> > > > >> > > > > Yes..thank You for the background beside Your tries. Please > > decide for> > > > > the one data, because that will be what the client will want from> > > > You in> > > > > the reading - one good try.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > SJC Guru> > > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > >> > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > > > >> > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > > >> > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > >> > > > > > Namaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > > The Upapada in the 6th House from the AL and Venus in the 6th > > from> > > > the> > > > > > AL can show some distancing in the marriage. This is especially so> > > > > > because Venus is in the 12th House in the Navamsha. As you have> > > > > > pointed out, the great strength of the 2nd Lord from the UL > > protects> > > > > > the marriage, forming Dharmakarmadhipati Yoga in the Rashi Chart.> > > > > >> > > > > > The native knew the girl before marriage as the lord of UL, Sun is> > > > > > placed in the A7 in the 10th House. There is Jara Yoga.> > > > > >> > > > > > The Chandra Vimshottari Dasha of Guru from 1998 is promising. > > Guru is> > > > > > also giving Argala to Navamsha Lagna which is not fully > > obstructed by> > > > > > Rahu though Rahu gives Vipreeta Argala of its own.> > > > > >> > > > > > The Antardashas of Mercury and Ketu are promising as they give > > Argala> > > > > > to the 7th House in the Navamsha. Mercury gives Argala to the 7th> > > > Lord> > > > > > also.> > > > > >> > > > > > Annual TP of 2002-2003 appears unlikely to have given marriage.> > > > Annual> > > > > > TP of 2003-2004 is more likely as the Lagna rising in the TP Rashi> > > > > > Chart is Dhanu and the Hora Lord Mars is placed in the 7th > > House in> > > > > > the Navamsha.> > > > > >> > > > > > The thing is that with this time Guru is transiting Upapada > > and he> > > > may> > > > > > have met the spouse at this time in late 2003.> > > > > >> > > > > > The annual TP of 2004-2005 has Leo Lagna rising which is in > > trines to> > > > > > natal Lagna and indicates an auspicious event. The Hora Lord > > Moon is> > > > > > in the 7th House indicating marriage. In the Navamsha, the Moon is> > > > > > placed in the 9th House of Bhagya as the Hora Lord, though > > afflicted> > > > > > by Ketu. Ketu Antardasha runs in Vimshottari and gives Vipreeta> > > > Argala> > > > > > to the 7th House. Ketu is also the 7th Lord of the Navamsha.> > > > > >> > > > > > Jupiter transits the 2nd House from the UL.> > > > > >> > > > > > Maybe the marriage happened from 30th March, 2005 to 22nd May,> > > > 2005 in> > > > > > the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of the Hora Lord Moon.> > > > > >> > > > > > The Navamsha Narayan Dasha of Taurus would be running which is the> > > > > > Lagna. Marriage is possible.> > > > > >> > > > > > Marriage at about 30 is possible as retrograde Venus is in the > > UL in> > > > > > Rashi chart and in the 12th House in the Navamsha Chart.> > > > > >> > > > > > The AD of Libra and Scorpio are both possible. In the AD of > > Scorpio,> > > > > > the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of Mars would be on. Mars lords the> > > > > > Navamsha Lagna. So summer of 2005 appears to be a possibility.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > > >> > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > > > <http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com/>> > > > > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > > > > ...> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Jyotisha's!> > > > > > >> > > > > > > We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see> > > > > > this mail:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *Quiz:*> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *September 17, 1975> > > > > > > Time: 14:19:43> > > > > > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > Place: 19 E 50' 00", 54 N 23' 00"*> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house> > > > - they> > > > > > > meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to> > > > marriage and> > > > > > > he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9).> > > > *Please> > > > > > > try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get> > > > > > > married*. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9> > > > and good> > > > > > > at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also).> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Rasi Lagna - Dhanus.> > > > > > > *> > > > > > > Navamsa Lagna - Taurus*.> > > > > > > (*rectified* - person works on music - Mo and Su are in > > kona, he is> > > > > > also> > > > > > > working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in > > kona).> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > SJC Guru> > > > > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal > > Gendarz. I> > > > > > > > think it includes many methods of timing marriage as > > taught in> > > > SJC> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > discussed on the Lists.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and> > > > Navamsha but> > > > > > > > this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method> > > > in his> > > > > > > > paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the > > Vargas.> > > > > > > > Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful> > > > approach can> > > > > > > > be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's> > > > lectures> > > > > > > > where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the> > > > > > native to> > > > > > > > commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing> > > > of this> > > > > > > > potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the> > > > Prashna and> > > > > > > > the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative> > > > > > > > approach in this regard.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the > > lord of the> > > > > > > > relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for > > 2007,> > > > placed> > > > > > > > with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In > > Rashi, the> > > > > > > > Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very> > > > encouraging as> > > > > > > > Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the> > > > > > results of> > > > > > > > Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL> > > > placed in> > > > > > > > the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea > > of these> > > > > > > > matters and as the situation improves, then specific > > timing may be> > > > > > > > studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly> > > > help as it> > > > > > > > aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate> > > > events in> > > > > > > > this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP> > > > > > placed in> > > > > > > > UL in Rashi Chakra.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in> > > > Navamsha> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have> > > > unobstructed> > > > > > > > Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears > > to be> > > > a time> > > > > > > > for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi > > Ashtottari> > > > > > Dasha> > > > > > > > will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area> > > > of life> > > > > > > > appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation > > for the> > > > > > > > auspicious effects to come.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > > > > > , Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@> > > > > > > > ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA> > > > > > (here are> > > > > > > > > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar> > > > > > touching the> > > > > > > > > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi > > ashottari> > > > > > and A7> > > > > > > > > in D9 technique.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect> > > > this last> > > > > > > > > two, then You have many many dasas)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa> > > > Pravesh> > > > > > > > Chakra> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last > > one was> > > > > > > > recomended> > > > > > > > > so far> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and > > can play> > > > > > role as> > > > > > > > > confirmer> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc..> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that > > the our> > > > > > > > Narasimha> > > > > > > > > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or> > > > someone from> > > > > > > > > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please> > > > > > kindly share> > > > > > > > > experience with us which of these points are important > > and many> > > > > > others> > > > > > > > > You may know.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > > > SJC Guru> > > > > > > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Amit Puri napisaÃ...,(a):> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > !! Jai Ganesha !!> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > * à ¥?** * Ã...s(rÃ"« MÃ"?tre Namaḥ !> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Namskar Anurag ji> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! > > âEUR¦Can we> > > > narrow> > > > > > > > down some> > > > > > > > > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in > > first week> > > > > > of July> > > > > > > > > > 2007âEUR¦ and having good shadbala and more positive> > > > contributing> > > > > > > > bindu> > > > > > > > > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some > > positive ??> > > > > > âEUR¦.> > > > > > > > Will> > > > > > > > > > wait for your comments> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Amit puri> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma*> > > > <anuraagsharma27@> > > > > > > > > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the> > > > Karma of> > > > > > > > > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good > > indications.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the> > > > person might> > > > > > > > > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the> > > > Lagnesh and> > > > > > > > > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is> > > > worse in> > > > > > > > > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying > > the> > > > Karma> > > > > > > > > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it > > is also> > > > > > > > > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the > > Dasha is> > > > > > > > > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart,> > > > being> > > > > > > > > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is > > placed> > > > in an> > > > > > > > > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could> > > > show coming> > > > > > > > > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in > > Dusthana> > > > > > > > > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the > > lack of> > > > > > > > > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be> > > > remedied. If> > > > > > > > > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be > > reasonably> > > > > > > > > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good > > results> > > > as the> > > > > > > > > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was > > good.> > > > Some of> > > > > > > > > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the > > subject> > > > through> > > > > > > > > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the> > > > Dasha and> > > > > > > > > > the significance of the various permutations and> > > > combinations of> > > > > > > > > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are > > noted. This> > > > > > > > > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest > > and I am> > > > > > > > > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater> > > > > > > > > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the> > > > learned> > > > > > > > > > scholars.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Best regards,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > > > > > > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com>> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < , Michal Dziwulski> > > > > > > > > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice > > that> > > > > > neither> > > > > > > > > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her> > > > emotionally> > > > > > > > > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th> > > > from the> > > > > > > > > > Moon.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in> > > > Navamsa and> > > > > > > > > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully,> > > > > > > > > > > Michal> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com> > > > > > > > > > <sohamsa; Vedic Astrology List> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology; Srijagannath> > > > > > > > > > <> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@> > > > > > > > > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM> > > > > > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed > > Marriage for a> > > > > > > > > > Desperate Girl> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya> > > > > > > > > > > Namah|> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai> > > > > > > > > > > Namah|> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > The most important facet of> > > > > > > > > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by> > > > the Graha> > > > > > > > > > Drishti of Rahu,> > > > > > > > > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the> > > > Naisargika Karaka> > > > > > > > > > of marriage,> > > > > > > > > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow> > > > and anger> > > > > > > > > > might manifest> > > > > > > > > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage.> > > > The fact> > > > > > > > > > that Shukra is> > > > > > > > > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which> > > > invited the> > > > > > > > > > curse in the> > > > > > > > > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th > > Lord)> > > > > > was not> > > > > > > > > > done with the> > > > > > > > > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas > > could be> > > > > > severe.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > The curse can be remedied as> > > > > > > > > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for> > > > Rahu.> > > > > > > > > > Also, the fact> > > > > > > > > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed> > > > strength> > > > > > to its> > > > > > > > > > > significations.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Donation of an idol of> > > > > > > > > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married,> > > > donating a> > > > > > > > > > bed for their> > > > > > > > > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial > > measures to> > > > attempt> > > > > > > > > > to come out of> > > > > > > > > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the > > experiences will> > > > > > > > > > affect her> > > > > > > > > > > intelligence and being directly.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > The debilitated malefic Mars> > > > > > > > > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the > > UL is> > > > > > > > > > conjoined the A7, a> > > > > > > > > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This > > would> > > > have> > > > > > > > > > been a headstrong> > > > > > > > > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox> > > > disapproval at> > > > > > > > > > home (Shani in> > > > > > > > > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very > > keen to> > > > > > > > > > marry the person> > > > > > > > > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong.> > > > The 2nd> > > > > > > > > > Lord from the UL,> > > > > > > > > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada.> > > > > > > > > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007;> > > > 20:39:13;> > > > > > > > > > Dehradun, India.> > > > > > > > > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines> > > > to the> > > > > > > > > > natal 2nd UL> > > > > > > > > > > Kumbha.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Your recommendation of> > > > > > > > > > > fasting is correct and essential.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > She should also propitiate> > > > > > > > > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be> > > > > > > > > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other> > > > Mantra.> > > > > > > > > > Else, start her> > > > > > > > > > > with 1 Mala.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > The exaltation of Venus in> > > > > > > > > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This aspect of life is not> > > > > > > > > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The > > 2nd UL in> > > > > > > > > > Rashi is also in> > > > > > > > > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and> > > > this UL> > > > > > > > > > are not too badly> > > > > > > > > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect > > the AL> > > > and the> > > > > > > > > > 2nd House from> > > > > > > > > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > > > > > > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> > > at the> > > > > > > > > > > Articles page> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai namah> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Gurus,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Please find a request for> > > > > > > > > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get> > > > > > > > > > > married, but unable to find> > > > > > > > > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on> > > > > > > > > > > mondays (UL),> > > > > > > > > > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the > > end of> > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter> > > > > > > > > > > Mahadasa.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her > > UL, and> > > > > > > > > > > other co lord> > > > > > > > > > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun,> > > > > > > > > > > all this indicating that> > > > > > > > > > > the person will be from a good family and> > > > > > > > > > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9,> > > > > > > > > > > the mangal is srong in own house.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong > > exalted in> > > > > > > > > > > D9...> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help;> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Date:> > > > > > > > > > > November 18, 1977> > > > > > > > > > > Time:> > > > > > > > > > > 17:40:00> > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East> > > > > > > > > > > of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26> > > > > > > > > > > N 55' 10"> > > > > > > > > > > jaipur, , USA> > > > > > > > > > > Altitude: 425.00> > > > > > > > > > > meters> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Namaste> > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav Jain> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > <!--> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; 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Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 hare rama krsna Dear Anurgaji Yes, I was taught however with the seventh lord, like in D24 I do with the forth lord. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Guru www.rohinaa.com (+48) 503 44 18 18 Anurag Sharma napisał(a): |Om Namo Narasimhaaya| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Rafal, Namaskar. In the Narayan Dasha book Sanjay Ji had taught that the 9th Lord of Rashi in the Navamsha should be taken as the Dasha seed and the 7th Lord of Rashi should be similarly taken in the Saptamsha. The rationale given was that marriage was a function of Dharma and progeny was a fruit of marriage. These are the settings I use; I think they are the default settings in JHora. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ....> wrote: > > *hare rama krsna* > > Dear Anuragji, > > Yes..in COVA Sanjayji states that Vimshottari can give many options, so > there is Upadesa to work with Narayana, but if You did some reading then > You will also see (and there is also some example in COVA I suppose) > that Bhaya Rasi can also give marriage. Of course then Sanjayji states > many other confirmations like to see Dasa Rasi from : a) Moon b) AL c) > Darakaraka/Venus. .and I found this quite problematic as I saw some > charts when the Dasa Rasi of marriage was 6 from AL etc. > > #1 That is one group of methods which all are welcomed to comment. > > Next : > > *# 2 How is Your experience with Narayana Dasa in D9 (of course counting > from seventh lord)? Which points are You using? I found that Dasa Rasi > in Kendra to Surya activates relationships. > > Example: > > June 24, 1983 > Time: 18:57:01 > Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 19 E 03' 10", 50 N 17' 10" > > * Here the Ta-Ge period give relationship (2nd Upapada). Ge is in kendra > & aspected by Sun and 2H (2nd relation). It was shortlasted because of > 8H position of starting (Ge is eight bhava) & the native was accused of > being not responsible enough(3L in Lagna - Sani). > > But for example in next period of CN - which is 3nd relation (9 house) > native hasnt any relationship. .one can say that there is 8L, but in 8H > period there was relationship (Ge)..maybe Moon in sixth with Ketu was > too strong combo. Now is Leo he is very desirous of relationship (Ve in > seventh) and there is aspect of A9 (third relation)..its also Kendra to > Mahadasa. > > * > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Guru > www.rohinaa. com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a): > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > Quite true. I agree. Logically, this is an eminent possibility and in > > that case the present quiz will be remarkably similar if not identical > > to that situation. So, the best thing to do would be, no matter how > > hard it is, to explore whatever periods appear likely and pick one out > > of those. The benefit in this kind of an exercise is that the 'tools' > > of analysis are refreshed even though the factual answer may or may > > not be correct. > > > > There is an element of irony in this situation for me. In my own > > horoscope, which I examine quite frequently, and accomplished > > Jyotishis on this List and elsewhere have analysed the chart too, so > > many divergent opinions seem to come out even regarding the static > > aspects of marriage. Of course, just as the Jyotishi cannot pose his > > own queries and answer his own Prashna: Sanjay Ji says it does not > > work that way, even others have a different take based on the same > > Yogas. And this is about static aspects. Timing is even tougher I guess. > > > > Regarding Vimshottari, I think I recall Sanjay Ji writing in COVA in > > one chart that Vimshottari gave so many possible periods of marrige > > that it was only Narayan Dasha that could be relied on. I am not > > certain but perhaps that was the chart of his first wife. So, I agree > > with you about your views on the Vimshottari. The solemnization of the > > marriage might not be seen from this Dasha. At least not as a rule, as > > it is mind centric and can show emotional stimuli and reactions that > > may go on to constitute courtship. > > > > In a lighter vein, and after agreeing with you, if a 17 year old would > > come to me about his marriage, I would advise him to focus on his > > studies instead, much as we do not analyse Prashna elaborately when it > > does not satisfy the rules. No, but more seriously, we have to grapple > > with this problem of identifying possible periods for marriage. In all > > the books that we read, it is always about possible periods rather > > than a very definite period. Many planets and periods seem to become > > candidates and finally you pick the best or a couple of the best. > > > > Regards, > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > Dear Anuragji, > > > > > > #1 This quiz rather is more similar to situation when the parents of > > > child comes to You as Daivajna and ask this question when the person > > > will get married, this of course can be important to manage reasonably > > > the years in life with events. In my history I see that timing of > > > marriage is very hard task because it also appeals to the official side > > > of the relationship, Vimshottari used with D9 can show us clearly when > > > one will meet the partner=dating, but the final decision to marry > > can be > > > not so simply seen. Especially when no yajna is conducted. > > > > > > #2 THEREFORE: I see no special difference between this quiz and reading > > > in live. Because the client will ask You when He will marry (and all > > > Jyotisha's know - its very often question coming from the clients) - so > > > just imagine this person comes to You at age of 17 and ask You for > > reading. > > > > > > #3 In the monday I will give the answer. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Guru > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > Anurag Sharma napisaÅ,(a): > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > But I have given the probable time as summer of 2005. Now just a > > > > thought about how clients want readings. See, in a quiz on marriage, > > > > for someone born in 1975, you have a very large segment of years in > > > > which the person can get married. In COVA, Sanjay Ji takes this > > > > approach. See, before starting the Jyotish analysis, when the native > > > > might get married based on his or her age and in the Desh-Kal-Patra. > > > > For example, when child marriage was in vogue in India, this exercise > > > > would have been many times tougher. > > > > > > > > When a client actually wants a reading, say today, the Jyotishi has > > > > the luxury of not looking at the past for possible times of marriage. > > > > Of course, the native may have been married before etc and all that > > > > can be seen or coupled with feedback.So, there is an inherent > > > > difference between a live reading for the client and a Jyotish > > > > exercise of this sort. > > > > > > > > Marriage analysis can even be distinguished say from Saptamsha > > > > analysis in the static sense, when one is trying to glean the number > > > > of progeny. That one may do even in the horoscope of a child. Timing > > > > is a different issue. So, what the client wants is an issue that > > > > stands on a quite different footing. > > > > > > > > In my email, I have given a very small window which appears to me to > > > > be a likely period. One that came out was March-May, 2005. But the AD > > > > of Scorpio follows in the Navamsha Narayan Dasha. I suppose you are > > > > asking me to choose between these two periods. Scorpio being the 7th > > > > House in the Navamsha becomes a stronger candidate than Libra to give > > > > the marriage. March-December as Ketu AD in the Vimshottari runs till > > > > 1st December, 2005. So maybe the period from 15.6.2005 to 1.12.2005 > > > > comes out to be a more likely period. > > > > > > > > The Gochar of Guru in the 2nd from Upapada is another factor that > > is a > > > > positive for this set of timing. > > > > > > > > If you notice, the Hora Lord for two successive TP charts is linked > > > > with the 7th House in either Rashi or Navamsha. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anuragji, > > > > > > > > > > Yes..thank You for the background beside Your tries. Please > > decide for > > > > > the one data, because that will be what the client will want from > > > > You in > > > > > the reading - one good try. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > SJC Guru > > > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Upapada in the 6th House from the AL and Venus in the 6th > > from > > > > the > > > > > > AL can show some distancing in the marriage. This is especially so > > > > > > because Venus is in the 12th House in the Navamsha. As you have > > > > > > pointed out, the great strength of the 2nd Lord from the UL > > protects > > > > > > the marriage, forming Dharmakarmadhipati Yoga in the Rashi Chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > The native knew the girl before marriage as the lord of UL, Sun is > > > > > > placed in the A7 in the 10th House. There is Jara Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Chandra Vimshottari Dasha of Guru from 1998 is promising. > > Guru is > > > > > > also giving Argala to Navamsha Lagna which is not fully > > obstructed by > > > > > > Rahu though Rahu gives Vipreeta Argala of its own. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Antardashas of Mercury and Ketu are promising as they give > > Argala > > > > > > to the 7th House in the Navamsha. Mercury gives Argala to the 7th > > > > Lord > > > > > > also. > > > > > > > > > > > > Annual TP of 2002-2003 appears unlikely to have given marriage. > > > > Annual > > > > > > TP of 2003-2004 is more likely as the Lagna rising in the TP Rashi > > > > > > Chart is Dhanu and the Hora Lord Mars is placed in the 7th > > House in > > > > > > the Navamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > The thing is that with this time Guru is transiting Upapada > > and he > > > > may > > > > > > have met the spouse at this time in late 2003. > > > > > > > > > > > > The annual TP of 2004-2005 has Leo Lagna rising which is in > > trines to > > > > > > natal Lagna and indicates an auspicious event. The Hora Lord > > Moon is > > > > > > in the 7th House indicating marriage. In the Navamsha, the Moon is > > > > > > placed in the 9th House of Bhagya as the Hora Lord, though > > afflicted > > > > > > by Ketu. Ketu Antardasha runs in Vimshottari and gives Vipreeta > > > > Argala > > > > > > to the 7th House. Ketu is also the 7th Lord of the Navamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter transits the 2nd House from the UL. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe the marriage happened from 30th March, 2005 to 22nd May, > > > > 2005 in > > > > > > the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of the Hora Lord Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Navamsha Narayan Dasha of Taurus would be running which is the > > > > > > Lagna. Marriage is possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > Marriage at about 30 is possible as retrograde Venus is in the > > UL in > > > > > > Rashi chart and in the 12th House in the Navamsha Chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > The AD of Libra and Scorpio are both possible. In the AD of > > Scorpio, > > > > > > the Tithi Ashtottari Dasha of Mars would be on. Mars lords the > > > > > > Navamsha Lagna. So summer of 2005 appears to be a possibility. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > <http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com/> > > > > > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jyotisha's! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see > > > > > > this mail: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Quiz:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *September 17, 1975 > > > > > > > Time: 14:19:43 > > > > > > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > Place: 19 E 50' 00", 54 N 23' 00"* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house > > > > - they > > > > > > > meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to > > > > marriage and > > > > > > > he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). > > > > *Please > > > > > > > try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get > > > > > > > married*. She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 > > > > and good > > > > > > > at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rasi Lagna - Dhanus. > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > Navamsa Lagna - Taurus*. > > > > > > > (*rectified* - person works on music - Mo and Su are in > > kona, he is > > > > > > also > > > > > > > working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in > > kona). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > SJC Guru > > > > > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal > > Gendarz. I > > > > > > > > think it includes many methods of timing marriage as > > taught in > > > > SJC > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > discussed on the Lists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and > > > > Navamsha but > > > > > > > > this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method > > > > in his > > > > > > > > paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the > > Vargas. > > > > > > > > Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful > > > > approach can > > > > > > > > be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's > > > > lectures > > > > > > > > where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the > > > > > > native to > > > > > > > > commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing > > > > of this > > > > > > > > potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the > > > > Prashna and > > > > > > > > the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative > > > > > > > > approach in this regard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the > > lord of the > > > > > > > > relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for > > 2007, > > > > placed > > > > > > > > with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In > > Rashi, the > > > > > > > > Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very > > > > encouraging as > > > > > > > > Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the > > > > > > results of > > > > > > > > Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL > > > > placed in > > > > > > > > the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea > > of these > > > > > > > > matters and as the situation improves, then specific > > timing may be > > > > > > > > studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly > > > > help as it > > > > > > > > aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate > > > > events in > > > > > > > > this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP > > > > > > placed in > > > > > > > > UL in Rashi Chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in > > > > Navamsha > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have > > > > unobstructed > > > > > > > > Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears > > to be > > > > a time > > > > > > > > for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi > > Ashtottari > > > > > > Dasha > > > > > > > > will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area > > > > of life > > > > > > > > appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation > > for the > > > > > > > > auspicious effects to come. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > @ . com, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ > > > > > > > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA > > > > > > (here are > > > > > > > > > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar > > > > > > touching the > > > > > > > > > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi > > ashottari > > > > > > and A7 > > > > > > > > > in D9 technique. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect > > > > this last > > > > > > > > > two, then You have many many dasas) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa > > > > Pravesh > > > > > > > > Chakra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last > > one was > > > > > > > > recomended > > > > > > > > > so far > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and > > can play > > > > > > role as > > > > > > > > > confirmer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that > > the our > > > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > > > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or > > > > someone from > > > > > > > > > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please > > > > > > kindly share > > > > > > > > > experience with us which of these points are important > > and many > > > > > > others > > > > > > > > > You may know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > SJC Guru > > > > > > > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit Puri napisaÃ...,(a) : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > !! Jai Ganesha !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * à ¥?** * Ã...s(rÃ"« MÃ"?tre Namaḥ ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namskar Anurag ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! > > âEUR¦Can we > > > > narrow > > > > > > > > down some > > > > > > > > > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in > > first week > > > > > > of July > > > > > > > > > > 2007âEUR¦ and having good shadbala and more positive > > > > contributing > > > > > > > > bindu > > > > > > > > > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some > > positive ?? > > > > > > âEUR¦. > > > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > > > > wait for your comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit puri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* > > > > <anuraagsharma27@ > > > > > > > > > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the > > > > Karma of > > > > > > > > > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good > > indications. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the > > > > person might > > > > > > > > > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the > > > > Lagnesh and > > > > > > > > > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is > > > > worse in > > > > > > > > > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying > > the > > > > Karma > > > > > > > > > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it > > is also > > > > > > > > > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the > > Dasha is > > > > > > > > > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is > > placed > > > > in an > > > > > > > > > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could > > > > show coming > > > > > > > > > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in > > Dusthana > > > > > > > > > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the > > lack of > > > > > > > > > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be > > > > remedied. If > > > > > > > > > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be > > reasonably > > > > > > > > > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good > > results > > > > as the > > > > > > > > > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was > > good. > > > > Some of > > > > > > > > > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the > > subject > > > > through > > > > > > > > > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the > > > > Dasha and > > > > > > > > > > the significance of the various permutations and > > > > combinations of > > > > > > > > > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are > > noted. This > > > > > > > > > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest > > and I am > > > > > > > > > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater > > > > > > > > > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the > > > > learned > > > > > > > > > > scholars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @ . com > > > > > > > > > > < , Michal Dziwulski > > > > > > > > > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice > > that > > > > > > neither > > > > > > > > > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her > > > > emotionally > > > > > > > > > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th > > > > from the > > > > > > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in > > > > Navamsa and > > > > > > > > > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > <sohamsa@ . com; Vedic Astrology List > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology@ . com > > > > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology; Srijagannath > > > > > > > > > > @ . com < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@ > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM > > > > > > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed > > Marriage for a > > > > > > > > > > Desperate Girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya > > > > > > > > > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai > > > > > > > > > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most important facet of > > > > > > > > > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by > > > > the Graha > > > > > > > > > > Drishti of Rahu, > > > > > > > > > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the > > > > Naisargika Karaka > > > > > > > > > > of marriage, > > > > > > > > > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow > > > > and anger > > > > > > > > > > might manifest > > > > > > > > > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. > > > > The fact > > > > > > > > > > that Shukra is > > > > > > > > > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which > > > > invited the > > > > > > > > > > curse in the > > > > > > > > > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th > > Lord) > > > > > > was not > > > > > > > > > > done with the > > > > > > > > > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas > > could be > > > > > > severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The curse can be remedied as > > > > > > > > > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for > > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > Also, the fact > > > > > > > > > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed > > > > strength > > > > > > to its > > > > > > > > > > > significations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donation of an idol of > > > > > > > > > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, > > > > donating a > > > > > > > > > > bed for their > > > > > > > > > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial > > measures to > > > > attempt > > > > > > > > > > to come out of > > > > > > > > > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the > > experiences will > > > > > > > > > > affect her > > > > > > > > > > > intelligence and being directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The debilitated malefic Mars > > > > > > > > > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the > > UL is > > > > > > > > > > conjoined the A7, a > > > > > > > > > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This > > would > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > been a headstrong > > > > > > > > > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox > > > > disapproval at > > > > > > > > > > home (Shani in > > > > > > > > > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very > > keen to > > > > > > > > > > marry the person > > > > > > > > > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. > > > > The 2nd > > > > > > > > > > Lord from the UL, > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada. > > > > > > > > > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; > > > > 20:39:13; > > > > > > > > > > Dehradun, India. > > > > > > > > > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > natal 2nd UL > > > > > > > > > > > Kumbha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your recommendation of > > > > > > > > > > > fasting is correct and essential. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She should also propitiate > > > > > > > > > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be > > > > > > > > > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other > > > > Mantra. > > > > > > > > > > Else, start her > > > > > > > > > > > with 1 Mala. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The exaltation of Venus in > > > > > > > > > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This aspect of life is not > > > > > > > > > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The > > 2nd UL in > > > > > > > > > > Rashi is also in > > > > > > > > > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and > > > > this UL > > > > > > > > > > are not too badly > > > > > > > > > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect > > the AL > > > > and the > > > > > > > > > > 2nd House from > > > > > > > > > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> > > at the > > > > > > > > > > > Articles page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Gurus, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please find a request for > > > > > > > > > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get > > > > > > > > > > > married, but unable to find > > > > > > > > > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on > > > > > > > > > > > mondays (UL), > > > > > > > > > > > still unable to find a spouse. 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Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 hare rama krsna Dear Jyotisha's He married in December 1999, so noone get the right date. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Guru www.rohinaa.com (+48) 503 44 18 18 Rafal Gendarz napisaÅ‚(a): hare rama krsna Dear Amitji, Thank You..as You know in Monday I will give the answer. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Guru www.rohinaa.com (+48) 503 44 18 18 Amit Puri napisaÅ‚(a): !! Jai Ganesha !! ॠŚrÄ« MÄtre Namaḥ!  Namskar Rafal ji Rafal ji thanks for sending such a interesting chart  There are very less chances of early marriage or bala vivha due to the following reason. The Upapada lagan lord in sankranti dosh.. The person is born on Wednesday so the 7th and 10th house come under chk and the day  lord joined Sun in 10th house.. The 7th lord from venus in Ayush debility in 12th house i.e rahu in Vrischika .. Kartari on 7th house…   These are major issue will help for future marital and profession prediction also..  So I am looking after 24 year for getting marriage and I found following dasa for marriage..  Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):  Pi MD: 1990-09-17 (10:33:60 am) - 2002-09-17 (12:22:27 pm)  Li AD: 2001-09-17 (6:16:09 am) - 2002-09-17 (12:22:27 pm)   Ta PD: 2002-06-15 (5:34:34 pm) - 2002-07-17 (4:23:54 am)  High lighted portion i.e 15-6-2002 to 17-7-2002... considering as marriage period.. I applied one simple rule of Naryana dasa will wait for your answer ,,  Regards,  Amit Puri On 13 Apr 2007 07:45:14 -0700, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: hare rama krsna Dear Jyotisha's! We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see this mail: Quiz: Date:         September 17, 1975 Time:         14:19:43 Time Zone:    1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        19 E 50' 00", 54 N 23' 00" Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house - they meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to marriage and he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). Please try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get married . She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 and good at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also). Rasi Lagna - Dhanus. Navamsa Lagna - Taurus . (rectified - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is also working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona). Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Guru www.rohinaa. com (+48) 503 44 18 18 Anurag Sharma napisaÅ‚(a): |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in SJC and discussed on the Lists. I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and Navamsha but this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method in his paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas. Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful approach can be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions. In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the native to commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing of this potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the Prashna and the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative approach in this regard. I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, placed with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very encouraging as Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the results of Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL placed in the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL. Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly help as it aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate events in this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP placed in UL in Rashi Chakra. Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in Navamsha and has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have unobstructed Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be a time for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari Dasha will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha. As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area of life appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the auspicious effects to come. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ....> wrote: > > *hare rama krsna* > > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji > > They are many techniques for timing marriage like: > > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA > > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA (here are > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar touching the > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari and A7 > in D9 technique. > > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala) > > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect this last > two, then You have many many dasas) > > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit > > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was recomended > so far > > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play role as > confirmer > > of course there are many more like Sahams etc.. > > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our Narasimha > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or someone from > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please kindly share > experience with us which of these points are important and many others > You may know. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Guru > www.rohinaa. com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Amit Puri napisaÅ‚(a): > > > > !! Jai Ganesha !! > > > > * à ¥Â** * Ã…Å¡rÄ« MÄÂtre Namaḥ ! > > > > Namskar Anurag ji > > > > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! …Can we narrow down some > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > > > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week of July > > 2007… and having good shadbala and more positive contributing bindu > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? …. Will > > wait for your comments > > > > > > Amit puri > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* <anuraagsharma27@ > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27 wrote: > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the Karma of > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications. > > > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the person might > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the Lagnesh and > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is worse in > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the Karma > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma. > > > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, being > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed in an > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now. > > > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could show coming > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be remedied. If > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results as the > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. Some of > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject through > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the Dasha and > > the significance of the various permutations and combinations of > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the learned > > scholars. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > < , Michal Dziwulski > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav, > > > > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that neither > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved. > > > > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her emotionally > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th from the > > Moon. > > > > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in Navamsa and > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this? > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ... > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa@ . com; Vedic Astrology List > > vedic astrology > > <vedic- astrology@ . com; Srijagannath > > < > > > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@ > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a > > Desperate Girl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya > > > Namah| > > > > > > |Om Lakshmyai > > > Namah| > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav, > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > The most important facet of > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by the Graha > > Drishti of Rahu, > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the Naisargika Karaka > > of marriage, > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow and anger > > might manifest > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. The fact > > that Shukra is > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which invited the > > curse in the > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) was not > > done with the > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > The curse can be remedied as > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for Rahu. > > Also, the fact > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed strength to its > > > significations. > > > > > > > > > > > > Donation of an idol of > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, donating a > > bed for their > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to attempt > > to come out of > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will > > affect her > > > intelligence and being directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > The debilitated malefic Mars > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is > > conjoined the A7, a > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would have > > been a headstrong > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox disapproval at > > home (Shani in > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to > > marry the person > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. The 2nd > > Lord from the UL, > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada. > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; 20:39:13; > > Dehradun, India. > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines to the > > natal 2nd UL > > > Kumbha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your recommendation of > > > fasting is correct and essential. > > > > > > > > > > > > She should also propitiate > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other Mantra. > > Else, start her > > > with 1 Mala. > > > > > > > > > > > > The exaltation of Venus in > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > This aspect of life is not > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in > > Rashi is also in > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and this UL > > are not too badly > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL and the > > 2nd House from > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Anurag Sharma > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the > > > Articles page > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai namah > > > > > > Namaste Gurus, > > > > > > Please find a request for > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get > > > married, but unable to find > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on > > > mondays (UL), > > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of > > > Jupiter > > > Mahadasa. > > > > > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and > > > other co lord > > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun, > > > all this indicating that > > > the person will be from a good family and > > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9, > > > the mangal is srong in own house. > > > > > > > > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in > > > D9... > > > > > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help; > > > > > > Date: > > > November 18, 1977 > > > Time: > > > 17:40:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East > > > of GMT) > > > Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26 > > > N 55' 10" > > > jaipur, , USA > > > Altitude: 425.00 > > > meters > > > > > > Namaste > > > Gaurav Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, > > clean, sans-serif;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, > > clean, sans-serif;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > > > #ygrp-text{ > > > font-family: Georgia; > > > } > > > #ygrp-text p{ > > > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > > > font-family: Arial; > > > clear:both;} > > > #ygrp-vitnav{ > > > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} > > > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > > > padding:0 1px;} > > > #ygrp-actbar{ > > > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- > > align:right; } > > > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > > > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > > > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > > > #ygrp-grft{ > > > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > > > #ygrp-ft{ > > > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; > > > padding:5px 0; > > > } > > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > > > padding-bottom: 10px;} > > > > > > #ygrp-vital{ > > > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px > > 8px;} > > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > > > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; > > color:#333; text-transform: uppercase; } > > > #ygrp-vital ul{ > > > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > > > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > > > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > > > } > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > > > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- > > align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > > > font-weight: bold;} > > > #ygrp-vital a { > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > > > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > > > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > > > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > > > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > > > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > > > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > > > padding:8px 0;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > > > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size: > > 100%;line- height:122% ;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > > > margin:0;} > > > o {font-size:0; } > > > .MsoNormal { > > > margin:0 0 0 0;} > > > #ygrp-text tt{ > > > font-size:120% ;} > > > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > > > .replbq {margin:4;} > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > _________ _________ _________ > > > Never miss an email again! > > > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. > > > http://tools. search.. com/toolbar/ features/ mail/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Dear Rafalji, So, the marriage was conducted in Jupiter MD, Jupiter AD and Rahu PD. Could not follow the involvement of Rahu (in its own star Visaka) from 3rd house (6L) influencing the marriage. Could you pl elaborate the astrological reasoning a little more. Regards Ravi Nair Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: hare rama krsnaDear Jyotisha'sHe married in December 1999, so noone get the right date.Regards,Rafal GendarzSJC Guruwww.rohinaa.com(+48) 503 44 18 18 Rafal Gendarz napisaÅ‚(a): hare rama krsnaDear Amitji,Thank You..as You know in Monday I will give the answer.Regards,Rafal GendarzSJC Guruwww.rohinaa.com(+48) 503 44 18 18Amit Puri napisaÅ‚(a): !! Jai Ganesha !!ॠŚrÄ« MÄtre Namaḥ!  Namskar Rafal ji Rafal ji thanks for sending such a interesting chart  There are very less chances of early marriage or bala vivha due to the following reason. The Upapada lagan lord in sankranti dosh.. The person is born on Wednesday so the 7th and 10th house come under chk and the day  lord joined Sun in 10th house.. The 7th lord from venus in Ayush debility in 12th house i.e rahu in Vrischika .. Kartari on 7th house…   These are major issue will help for future marital and profession prediction also..  So I am looking after 24 year for getting marriage and I found following dasa for marriage..  Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):  Pi MD: 1990-09-17 (10:33:60 am) - 2002-09-17 (12:22:27 pm)  Li AD: 2001-09-17 (6:16:09 am) - 2002-09-17 (12:22:27 pm)   Ta PD: 2002-06-15 (5:34:34 pm) - 2002-07-17 (4:23:54 am)  High lighted portion i.e 15-6-2002 to 17-7-2002... considering as marriage period.. I applied one simple rule of Naryana dasa will wait for your answer ,,  Regards,  Amit Puri On 13 Apr 2007 07:45:14 -0700, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: hare rama krsna Dear Jyotisha's!We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see this mail:Quiz: Date:         September 17, 1975Time:         14:19:43Time Zone:    1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place:        19 E 50' 00", 54 N 23' 00" Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house - they meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to marriage and he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in D1 & D9). Please try to write (of course with methods used) when this person get married . She is very religious (Jupier in arthatrikona in D9 and good at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she worked as cooker also).Rasi Lagna - Dhanus. Navamsa Lagna - Taurus .(rectified - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he is also working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo in kona).Regards,Rafal GendarzSJC Guruwww.rohinaa. com(+48) 503 44 18 18 Anurag Sharma napisaÅ‚(a): |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. I think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in SJC and discussed on the Lists. I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and Navamsha but this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the A7 method in his paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha Pada in the Vargas. Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be checked. A useful approach can be developed by carefully listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures where he makes extensive use of this technique in predictions. In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the native to commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the timing of this potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions as the Prashna and the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year indicate a conservative approach in this regard. I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of the relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for 2007, placed with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. In Rashi, the Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been very encouraging as Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim Vardhanam'. But the results of Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is the co-lord of the 2nd UL placed in the 8th therefrom and in the 7th from the AL. Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of these matters and as the situation improves, then specific timing may be studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will certainly help as it aspects the 2nd from this UL and would likely precipitate events in this direction. This is confirmed by the Hora Lord in the TP placed in UL in Rashi Chakra. Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in Navamsha and has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also have unobstructed Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, 2008 appears to be a time for strong developments in this regard as Shani Tithi Ashtottari Dasha will be running. Shani is the lord of UL in TP Navamsha. As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area of life appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation for the auspicious effects to come. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *hare rama krsna*> > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji> > They are many techniques for timing marriage like:> > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA> > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA (here are > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar touching the > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi ashottari and A7 > in D9 technique.> > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala)> > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect this last > two, then You have many many dasas)> > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit> > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was recomended > so far> > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can play role as > confirmer> > of course there are many more like Sahams etc..> > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our Narasimha > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or someone from > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please kindly share > experience with us which of these points are important and many others > You may know.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> SJC Guru> www.rohinaa. com> (+48) 503 44 18 18> > Amit Puri napisaÅ‚(a):> >> > !! Jai Ganesha !!> >> > * à ¥Â** * Ã…Å¡rÄ« MÄÂtre Namaḥ !> >> > Namskar Anurag ji> >> > > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! …Can we narrow down some > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > >> > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first week of July > > 2007… and having good shadbala and more positive contributing bindu > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? …. Will > > wait for your comments> >> > > > Amit puri> >> > > >> >> >> > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* <anuraagsharma27@ > > hotmail.com <anuraagsharm a27 wrote:> >> > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> >> > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> >> > Dear Michal,> >> > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the Karma of> > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications.> >> > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the person might> > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the Lagnesh and> > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is worse in> > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the Karma> > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also> > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma.> >> > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is> > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, being> > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed in an> > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now.> >> > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could show coming> > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana> > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of> > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be remedied. If> > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably> > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results as the> > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. Some of> > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject through> > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the Dasha and> > the significance of the various permutations and combinations of> > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This> > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am> > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater> > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the learned> > scholars.> >> > Best regards,> >> > Anurag Sharma> >> > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com>> >> > > >> >> > > > < , Michal Dziwulski> > nearmichal@ ..> wrote:> > >> > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > >> > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav,> > >> > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that neither> > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved.> > >> > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her emotionally> > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th from the> > Moon.> > >> > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in Navamsa and> > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this?> > >> > > Respectfully,> > > Michal> > >> > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > >> > > > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ ...> > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com> > <sohamsa; Vedic Astrology List> > vedic astrology> > <vedic- astrology; Srijagannath> > < > >> > > Cc: Me anuraag9@> > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a> > Desperate Girl> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > |Om Shreenivasaya> > > Namah|> > >> > > |Om Lakshmyai> > > Namah|> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Gaurav,> > >> > > Namaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > > The most important facet of> > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by the Graha> > Drishti of Rahu,> > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the Naisargika Karaka> > of marriage,> > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow and anger> > might manifest> > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. The fact> > that Shukra is> > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which invited the> > curse in the> > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) was not> > done with the> > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could be severe.> > >> > >> > >> > > The curse can be remedied as> > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for Rahu.> > Also, the fact> > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed strength to its> > > significations.> > >> > >> > >> > > Donation of an idol of> > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, donating a> > bed for their> > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to attempt> > to come out of> > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will> > affect her> > > intelligence and being directly.> > >> > >> > >> > > The debilitated malefic Mars> > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is> > conjoined the A7, a> > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would have> > been a headstrong> > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox disapproval at> > home (Shani in> > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to> > marry the person> > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. The 2nd> > Lord from the UL,> > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury.> > >> > >> > >> > > She is on the 2nd Upapada.> > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; 20:39:13;> > Dehradun, India.> > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines to the> > natal 2nd UL> > > Kumbha.> > >> > >> > >> > > Your recommendation of> > > fasting is correct and essential.> > >> > >> > >> > > She should also propitiate> > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva.> > >> > >> > >> > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be> > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other Mantra.> > Else, start her> > > with 1 Mala.> > >> > >> > >> > > The exaltation of Venus in> > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya.> > >> > >> > >> > > This aspect of life is not> > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in> > Rashi is also in> > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and this UL> > are not too badly> > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL and the> > 2nd House from> > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation.> > >> > >> > >> > > Best Wishes,> > > Anurag Sharma> > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > >> > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> at the> > > Articles page> > >> > >> > > Aum Durgayai namah> > >> > > Namaste Gurus,> > >> > > Please find a request for> > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get> > > married, but unable to find> > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on> > > mondays (UL),> > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of> > > Jupiter> > > Mahadasa.> > >> > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and> > > other co lord> > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun,> > > all this indicating that> > > the person will be from a good family and> > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9,> > > the mangal is srong in own house.> > >> > >> > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in> > > D9...> > >> > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help;> > >> > > Date:> > > November 18, 1977> > > Time:> > > 17:40:00> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East> > > of GMT)> > > Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26> > > N 55' 10"> > > jaipur, , USA> > > Altitude: 425.00> > > meters> > >> > > Namaste> > > Gaurav Jain> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > <!--> > >> > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica,> > clean, sans-serif;}> > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;}> > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica,> > clean, sans-serif;}> > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;}> > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;}> > > #ygrp-text{> > > font-family: Georgia;> > > }> > > #ygrp-text p{> > > margin:0 0 1em 0;}> > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{> > > font-family: Arial;> > > clear:both;}> > > #ygrp-vitnav{> > > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;}> > > #ygrp-vitnav a{> > > padding:0 1px;}> > > #ygrp-actbar{> > > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text-> > align:right; }> > > #ygrp-actbar .left{> > > float:left;white- space:nowrap; }> > > .bld{font-weight: bold;}> > > #ygrp-grft{> > > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;}> > > #ygrp-ft{> > > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666;> > > padding:5px 0;> > > }> > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{> > > padding-bottom: 10px;}> > >> > > #ygrp-vital{> > > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px> > 8px;}> > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{> > > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold;> > color:#333; text-transform: uppercase; }> > > #ygrp-vital ul{> > > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;}> > > #ygrp-vital ul li{> > > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee;> > > }> > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{> > > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text-> > align:right; padding-right: .5em;}> > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{> > > font-weight: bold;}> > > #ygrp-vital a {> > > text-decoration: none;}> > >> > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{> > > text-decoration: underline; }> > >> > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{> > > color:#999;font- size:77%; }> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{> > > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{> > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; }> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{> > > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{> > > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc {> > > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{> > > padding:8px 0;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{> > > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size:> > 100%;line- height:122% ;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{> > > text-decoration: none;}> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{> > > text-decoration: underline; }> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{> > > margin:0;}> > > o {font-size:0; }> > > .MsoNormal {> > > margin:0 0 0 0;}> > > #ygrp-text tt{> > > font-size:120% ;}> > > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;}> > > .replbq {margin:4;}> > > -->> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________> > _________ _________ _________> > > Never miss an email again!> > > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives.> > > http://tools. search.. com/toolbar/ features/ mail/> > >> >> >> >> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? 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Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 hare rama krsna Dear Ash, Methodology: Udu dasa: Venus and DK has good relation because DK is dispositor and in UL. So it can be in Venus Mahadasa in Naisargika Dasa. Its Buddha-Shukra-Buddha. Rasi: Buddha is 7L - Shukra is in Upapada. Buddha is 7L. D9: Buddha has 2nd argala on Lagna (Mahadasa). Shukra is in kona to 7L (Antara) and Buddha is kona lord in D9 (pratyantar level). Narayana dasa (D1) Pi-Sg. Anubhava (or bhaya) for this period is Ge Rasi - seventh lord. 9L (dharma) and A7 & UL dispositors are aspecting both periods. (its the last period of Mahadasa belonging to aspects). IN DPC Shukra is tithesh and dispositor of 7L and being Lagnesh so Yoga is complete. Narayana Dasa (d9 - counted from 7L) Ta-Pi - Anubhava is ninth bhava with 7L (Ketu). Ta is Navamsa Lagna. Pi has AL. (beside anubhava technique hard to determine) Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Guru www.rohinaa.com (+48) 503 44 18 18 ashsam73 napisał(a): Dear Rafal, With Saturn in 5th house in navamsa, Marriage cannot be that early. Here in this case even Jupiter is not aspecting Sa and on top of that there is 1 zero in SAV in the 9th house due to Moon. Kindly explain the methodology that was used to predict an early marriage. Also kindly give the original time without your rectification. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca @ . com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *hare rama krsna* > > Dear Jyotisha's > > He married in December 1999, so noone get the right date. > > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Guru > www.rohinaa. com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Rafal Gendarz napisaÅ‚(a): > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > Dear Amitji, > > > > Thank You..as You know in Monday I will give the answer. > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > SJC Guru > > www.rohinaa. com > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > Amit Puri napisaÅ‚(a): > > > >> !! Jai Ganesha !! > >> *à¥** *ÅšrÄ« MÄtre Namaḥ! > >> > >> > >> Namskar Rafal ji > >> > >> Rafal ji thanks for sending such a interesting chart > >> > >> There are very less chances of early marriage or bala vivha due to > >> the following reason. > >> > >> 1. The Upapada lagan lord in sankranti dosh.. > >> 2. The person is born on Wednesday so the 7th and 10th house > >> come under chk and the day lord joined Sun in 10^th house.. > >> 3. The 7^th lord from venus in Ayush debility in 12^th house i.e > >> rahu in Vrischika .. > >> 4. Kartari on 7^th house… > >> > >> > >> These are major issue will help for future marital and profession > >> prediction also.. > >> > >> So I am looking after 24 year for getting marriage and I found > >> following dasa for marriage.. > >> > >> Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): > >> > >> Pi MD: 1990-09-17 (10:33:60 am) - 2002-09-17 (12:22:27 pm) > >> > >> Li AD: 2001-09-17 (6:16:09 am) - 2002-09-17 (12:22:27 pm) > >> > >> Ta PD: 2002-06-15 (5:34:34 pm) - 2002-07-17 (4:23:54 am) > >> > >> High lighted portion i.e 15-6-2002 to 17-7-2002... considering as > >> marriage period.. I applied one simple rule of Naryana dasa will > >> wait for your answer ,, > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Amit Puri > >> > >> > >> > >> On 13 Apr 2007 07:45:14 -0700, *Rafal Gendarz* <starsuponme@ wp.pl > >> <starsuponme > wrote: > >> > >> *hare rama krsna* > >> > >> Dear Jyotisha's! > >> > >> We have some discusion with Anuragji about marriages, please see > >> this mail: > >> > >> *Quiz:* > >> > >> *September 17, 1975 > >> Time: 14:19:43 > >> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > >> Place: 19 E 50' 00", 54 N 23' 00"* > >> > >> Please all see this chart. First Upapada is in Leo (ninth house - > >> they meet in temple) and he has only one girl - this turn up to > >> marriage and he is still with this girl (buddha 2L wellplaced in > >> D1 & D9). *Please try to write (of course with methods used) when > >> this person get married* . She is very religious (Jupier in > >> arthatrikona in D9 and good at cooking Ma in 10 from 7H; she > >> worked as cooker also). > >> > >> > >> Rasi Lagna - Dhanus. > >> * > >> Navamsa Lagna - Taurus *. > >> (*rectified* - person works on music - Mo and Su are in kona, he > >> is also working with numbers - Ke and sells medicines - Me and Mo > >> in kona). > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> Rafal Gendarz > >> SJC Guru > >> www.rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com> > >> (+48) 503 44 18 18 > >> > >> Anurag Sharma napisaÅ‚(a): > >> > >>> |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > >>> > >>> |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > >>> > >>> Dear Rafal, Amit Ji and learned members, > >>> > >>> That is a very fine list compiled by Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz. > >>> I think it includes many methods of timing marriage as taught in > >>> SJC and discussed on the Lists. > >>> > >>> I myself use Vimshottari and Narayan Dashas in Rashi and > >>> Navamsha but this is more because of habit. Sanjay Ji taught the > >>> A7 method in his paper which also clarified the usage of Arudha > >>> Pada in the Vargas. Tithi Pravesha Chakra should always be > >>> checked. A useful approach can be developed by carefully > >>> listening to PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures where he makes > >>> extensive use of this technique in predictions. > >>> > >>> In the chart in question, my first priority would be for the > >>> native to commence Upaya. I have made some suggestions as to the > >>> timing of this potential marriage. I kept myself to suggestions > >>> as the Prashna and the Tithi Pravesha for the coming year > >>> indicate a conservative approach in this regard. > >>> > >>> I agree with your views about Shani. Shani is also the lord of > >>> the relevant Upapada. It is also the Hora Lord in the TP for > >>> 2007, placed with Ketu in Upapada. It is the Vargottama Badhak. > >>> In Rashi, the Narayan Dasha of Meena would ordinarily have been > >>> very encouraging as Ketu is placed there and 'Ketu Kulastim > >>> Vardhanam'. But the results of Kanya Rashi will be felt. Rahu is > >>> the co-lord of the 2nd UL placed in the 8th therefrom and in the > >>> 7th from the AL. > >>> > >>> Upon commencing Upaya, the native may have a clearer idea of > >>> these matters and as the situation improves, then specific > >>> timing may be studied. The transit of Guru in Dhanu Rashi will > >>> certainly help as it aspects the 2nd from this UL and would > >>> likely precipitate events in this direction. This is confirmed > >>> by the Hora Lord in the TP placed in UL in Rashi Chakra. > >>> > >>> Even in the Vimshottari Dasha, Shani is the Lagna Lord in > >>> Navamsha and has obstructed Argala on Lagna. Saturn AD will also > >>> have unobstructed Argala on the 7th Lord. 27th April to June, > >>> 2008 appears to be a time for strong developments in this regard > >>> as Shani Tithi Ashtottari Dasha will be running. Shani is the > >>> lord of UL in TP Navamsha. > >>> > >>> As I ventured in the initial writing on this chart, this area of > >>> life appears to be stressed and it would require propitiation > >>> for the auspicious effects to come. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Anurag Sharma > >>> > >>> http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > >>> , Rafal Gendarz > >>> <starsuponme@ ...> <starsuponme @> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > *hare rama krsna* > >>> > > >>> > Dear Narasimhaji, Amitji and Anuragji > >>> > > >>> > They are many techniques for timing marriage like: > >>> > > >>> > 1) vimshottari dasa with d9 (kona to 7H - antardasa) COVA > >>> > > >>> > 2) vimshottari dasa with d9 (argala to 7L - antardasa) COVA > >>> (here are > >>> > also many Vimshottari things like Bhaya or Mahadasa-antar > >>> touching the > >>> > 7L or 7H), in the udu dasa scheme there is also Tithi > >>> ashottari and A7 > >>> > in D9 technique. > >>> > > >>> > 3) narayana dasa rasi asp by Ke/UL/Ve (here is also argala) > >>> > > >>> > 4) narayana bhaya rasi asp by Ke/Ve/UL (now if You connect > >>> this last > >>> > two, then You have many many dasas) > >>> > > >>> > 5) so now this can be narrowed down to next technique Dasa > >>> Pravesh Chakra > >>> > > >>> > 6) now we have also Ashtakavarga presented by Amit > >>> > > >>> > 7) Tithi Pravesh & Solar Progression in D9 - the last one was > >>> recomended > >>> > so far > >>> > > >>> > 8) Prasna - this can be add to all the natal rules and can > >>> play role as > >>> > confirmer > >>> > > >>> > of course there are many more like Sahams etc.. > >>> > > >>> > I read once opinion of Sanjayji about Narasimha - that the our > >>> Narasimha > >>> > never failed (only in timing marriage of His brother or > >>> someone from > >>> > family) to time marriage in his reading history..so please > >>> kindly share > >>> > experience with us which of these points are important and > >>> many others > >>> > You may know. > >>> > > >>> > Regards, > >>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>> > SJC Guru > >>> > www.rohinaa <http://www.rohinaa>. com > >>> > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > >>> > > >>> > Amit Puri napisaÅ‚(a): > >>> > > > >>> > > !! Jai Ganesha !! > >>> > > > >>> > > * à ¥Â** * Ã…Å¡rÄ« MÄÂtre Namaḥ ! > >>> > > > >>> > > Namskar Anurag ji > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > I like your reading for the said chart but ! …Can we > >>> narrow down some > >>> > > specific timing of marriage,,,, ? > >>> > > > >>> > > As i think yogakarka Saturn dasa going to start in first > >>> week of July > >>> > > 2007… and having good shadbala and more positive > >>> contributing bindu > >>> > > 7^th from Venus astakvarga (PAV) can bring some positive ?? > >>> …. Will > >>> > > wait for your comments > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Amit puri > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > On 12 Apr 2007 23:59:33 -0700, *Anurag Sharma* > >>> <anuraagsharma27@ > >>> > > hotmail.com <http://hotmail. com> <anuraagshar m > >>> a27@> <anuraagshar ma27@> wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > >>> > > > >>> > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > >>> > > > >>> > > Dear Michal, > >>> > > > >>> > > Severity as far as the burden of sin (8th Lord) and the Karma of > >>> > > the soul (AK) is lacking and these are very good indications. > >>> > > > >>> > > But the involvement of the Lagnesh indicates that the person > >>> might > >>> > > have to experience the results of the Shrapa. Both the > >>> Lagnesh and > >>> > > the AK indicate the involvement of the native. The AK is > >>> worse in > >>> > > terms of suffering because the Soul itself is carrying the Karma > >>> > > and if remedial measures are allowed by the chart, it is also > >>> > > capable of receiving aid in the absolving of the Karma. > >>> > > > >>> > > The Moola Dasha of Shani is running whichever way the Dasha is > >>> > > computed. Shani is the most malefic planet for the chart, being > >>> > > Badhakesh, even though it is also Yogakaraka. It is placed in an > >>> > > inimical Rashi. Thus the question has arisen now. > >>> > > > >>> > > The next Dasha of Venus starting later this year could show > >>> coming > >>> > > out of the curse. A natura benefic strongly placed in Dusthana > >>> > > under a curse is a significant negative despite the lack of > >>> > > involvement of the AK and the 8th Lord. It should be > >>> remedied. If > >>> > > such a planet is in a Kendra or Trikona, one can be reasonably > >>> > > confident that addressed, the Yoga will yield good results > >>> as the > >>> > > intention behind the act which invited the curse was good. > >>> Some of > >>> > > these aspects have been studied in my paper on the subject > >>> through > >>> > > case studies, where alternate methods of computing the Dasha and > >>> > > the significance of the various permutations and combinations of > >>> > > the cursed planet and those causing the curse are noted. This > >>> > > might appear in the next issue of the Jyotish Digest and I am > >>> > > hoping it will lead to more discussion so that greater > >>> > > understanding may then ensue from the viewpoints of the learned > >>> > > scholars. > >>> > > > >>> > > Best regards, > >>> > > > >>> > > Anurag Sharma > >>> > > > >>> > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > >>> > > <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com> > >>> <http://ytransformat ion.blogspot. com> > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > <srijagannat h , Michal Dziwulski > >>> > > nearmichal@ ..> wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Dear Anurag, Gaurav, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Do you think the curse is really so severe? I notice that > >>> neither > >>> > > Atmakaraka or 8th lord are involved. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Mars debilitated there with UL and A7 would make her > >>> emotionally > >>> > > unbalanced regarding these matters. Mars is also in 6th from the > >>> > > Moon. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > What is her career? Mars is well placed in 10th in Navamsa and > >>> > > Moon in 10th in Rasi. Does she give to much time to this? > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Respectfully, > >>> > > > Michal > >>> > > > > >>> > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Anurag Sharma anuraagsharma27@ .... > >>> > > > sohamsa sohamsa@ .com > >>> > > <sohamsa; Vedic Astrology List > >>> > > vedic astrology > >>> > > <vedic- astrology@ . com; Srijagannath > >>> > > <srijagannat h > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > > > Cc: Me anuraag9@ > >>> > > > Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54:33 AM > >>> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:Case of Delayed Marriage for a > >>> > > Desperate Girl > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > |Om Shreenivasaya > >>> > > > Namah| > >>> > > > > >>> > > > |Om Lakshmyai > >>> > > > Namah| > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Dear Gaurav, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Namaskar. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > The most important facet of > >>> > > > this chart appears to be the Kalatra Shrapa formed by the > >>> Graha > >>> > > Drishti of Rahu, > >>> > > > Shani and Mangal. As three malefics aspect the Naisargika > >>> Karaka > >>> > > of marriage, > >>> > > > the area is stressed. Shock, cheating, deceit, sorrow and > >>> anger > >>> > > might manifest > >>> > > > in the mental experience related to love and marriage. The > >>> fact > >>> > > that Shukra is > >>> > > > placed in the 6th House suggests that the act which > >>> invited the > >>> > > curse in the > >>> > > > immediately preceding incarnation (Shani is the 9th Lord) > >>> was not > >>> > > done with the > >>> > > > best intention. Thus, the suffering in these areas could > >>> be severe. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > The curse can be remedied as > >>> > > > none of the aspecting malefics are retrograde, save for Rahu. > >>> > > Also, the fact > >>> > > > that Shukra is in Tula, can impart some much needed > >>> strength to its > >>> > > > significations. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Donation of an idol of > >>> > > > Lakshmi-Narayan, helping a poor couple get married, donating a > >>> > > bed for their > >>> > > > matrimonial home can be some of the remedial measures to > >>> attempt > >>> > > to come out of > >>> > > > the curse. As Venus is the Lagna Lord, the experiences will > >>> > > affect her > >>> > > > intelligence and being directly. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > The debilitated malefic Mars > >>> > > > may keep the first Upapada from manifesting. As the UL is > >>> > > conjoined the A7, a > >>> > > > relationship might not culminate in marriage. This would have > >>> > > been a headstrong > >>> > > > relationship shown by Neecha Mangal and orthodox > >>> disapproval at > >>> > > home (Shani in > >>> > > > 4th) might have ended the relationship. She was very keen to > >>> > > marry the person > >>> > > > and this keenness further made the opposition strong. The 2nd > >>> > > Lord from the UL, > >>> > > > Sun is with the 5th Lord of love, Mercury. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > She is on the 2nd Upapada. > >>> > > > This is seen in the Prashna Chakra: April 12, 2007; 20:39:13; > >>> > > Dehradun, India. > >>> > > > In this chart, the UL is in Mithun, which is in trines to the > >>> > > natal 2nd UL > >>> > > > Kumbha. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Your recommendation of > >>> > > > fasting is correct and essential. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > She should also propitiate > >>> > > > the Devata of the 6th House: Lord Shiva. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > 'Om Namah Shivaaya' can be > >>> > > > chanted. 6 Malas can be good if she is not doing other Mantra. > >>> > > Else, start her > >>> > > > with 1 Mala. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > The exaltation of Venus in > >>> > > > the 2nd House can promise a good spouse after Upaya. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > This aspect of life is not > >>> > > > easy for her and the Prashna also reflects it. The 2nd UL in > >>> > > Rashi is also in > >>> > > > the 12th House from the AL but the lords of the AL and this UL > >>> > > are not too badly > >>> > > > placed. Guru in Dhanu later this year will aspect the AL > >>> and the > >>> > > 2nd House from > >>> > > > the 2nd UL, bringing auspiciousness to the situation. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Best Wishes, > >>> > > > Anurag Sharma > >>> > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > >>> > > > > >>> > > > http://www.astrolog yguild.com <http://yguild. com> > >>> <http://yguild. com> <http://yguild. com> at the > >>> > > > Articles page > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Aum Durgayai namah > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Namaste Gurus, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Please find a request for > >>> > > > analysis of a desperate girl trying to get > >>> > > > married, but unable to find > >>> > > > a spouse. As per my recommendation she is Fasting on > >>> > > > mondays (UL), > >>> > > > still unable to find a spouse. Currently running the end of > >>> > > > Jupiter > >>> > > > Mahadasa. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Her 7th house co lord is mangal debilitated in her UL, and > >>> > > > other co lord > >>> > > > ketu is in meena in AL..7th house has mercury and sun, > >>> > > > all this indicating that > >>> > > > the person will be from a good family and > >>> > > > prone to little haste/anger. .in D9, > >>> > > > the mangal is srong in own house. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > LL venus is in MKS in own house, and also strong exalted in > >>> > > > D9... > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Kindly throw some light into this case and help; > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Date: > >>> > > > November 18, 1977 > >>> > > > Time: > >>> > > > 17:40:00 > >>> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East > >>> > > > of GMT) > >>> > > > Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26 > >>> > > > N 55' 10" > >>> > > > jaipur, , USA > >>> > > > Altitude: 425.00 > >>> > > > meters > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Namaste > >>> > > > Gaurav Jain > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > <!-- > >>> > > > > >>> > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, > >>> > > clean, sans-serif;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, > >>> helvetica, > >>> > > clean, sans-serif;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-text{ > >>> > > > font-family: Georgia; > >>> > > > } > >>> > > > #ygrp-text p{ > >>> > > > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > >>> > > > font-family: Arial; > >>> > > > clear:both;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-vitnav{ > >>> > > > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: > >>> 77%;margin: 0;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > >>> > > > padding:0 1px;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-actbar{ > >>> > > > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: > >>> #666;text- > >>> > > align:right; } > >>> > > > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > >>> > > > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > >>> > > > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-grft{ > >>> > > > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-ft{ > >>> > > > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid > >>> #666; > >>> > > > padding:5px 0; > >>> > > > } > >>> > > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > >>> > > > padding-bottom: 10px;} > >>> > > > > >>> > > > #ygrp-vital{ > >>> > > > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px > >>> 0 8px > >>> > > 8px;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > >>> > > > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; > >>> > > color:#333; text-transform: uppercase; } > >>> > > > #ygrp-vital ul{ > >>> > > > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > >>> > > > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > >>> > > > } > >>> > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > >>> > > > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- > >>> > > align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > >>> > > > font-weight: bold;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-vital a { > >>> > > > text-decoration: none;} > >>> > > > > >>> > > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > >>> > > > text-decoration: underline; } > >>> > > > > >>> > > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > >>> > > > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > >>> > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > >>> > > > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: > >>> 20px;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > >>> > > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > >>> > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > >>> > > > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > >>> > > > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > >>> > > > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > >>> > > > padding:8px 0;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > >>> > > > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; > >>> font-size: > >>> > > 100%;line- height:122% ;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > >>> > > > text-decoration: none;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > >>> > > > text-decoration: underline; } > >>> > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > >>> > > > margin:0;} > >>> > > > o {font-size:0; } > >>> > > > .MsoNormal { > >>> > > > margin:0 0 0 0;} > >>> > > > #ygrp-text tt{ > >>> > > > font-size:120% ;} > >>> > > > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > >>> > > > .replbq {margin:4;} > >>> > > > --> > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > >>> > > _________ _________ _________ > >>> > > > Never miss an email again! 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