Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Sumanth, Venus in eight and (if I remember correctly) lording Navamsa Lagna is straight combination for this. Nodes indicate forceps, Mangal caesarian on Navamsa Lg. Guru deb in D9 is bad because its Pakesh. Venus as Varesh and 12L is wellplaced with exalted Buddha, Buddha is in good tatkalik with both of lagneshes so the health will improve. Lagnesh always must be strengthed to fight any battle (or disease) - Saravali. Regards, Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com sumanth krishna napisał(a): Dear members i am attaching a chart of a baby,which is a month premature born and very light weight and very weak. 1)I want to know,is there any way to find,premature birth from the child, in this case,nodes influence on D9 lagna is the reason??? 2) Is the retro jupiter in lagna,debilitated in D9,is the reason for bad health?? even though Mars lagnadhipathi, and sun are well placed, and possess strength in navamasa too..why the child is weak?? 3)since mars the lagndhipathi, in 11 from Sun indicate the childs health will improve on time???? plz correct me if am wrong.. plz respected members give ur valuable findings thanks in advance sumanth Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Dear members i am attaching a chart of a baby,which is a month premature born and very light weight and very weak. 1)I want to know,is there any way to find,premature birth from the child, in this case,nodes influence on D9 lagna is the reason??? 2) Is the retro jupiter in lagna,debilitated in D9,is the reason for bad health?? even though Mars lagnadhipathi,and sun are well placed, and possess strength in navamasa too..why the child is weak?? 3)since mars the lagndhipathi, in 11 from Sun indicate the childs health will improve on time???? plz correct me if am wrong.. plz respected members give ur valuable findings thanks in advance sumanth Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 In a message dated 6/3/07 1:02:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sanji_sumanth writes: Hari Om Sumanth, The problem is not the premature birth but the afflictions in the chart. Many children are born prematurely and do very well. A month premature is not unusual. The lagna is gandanta and as you said, Jupiter is neecha in the navamsa and therefore cannot give his full protection. There is a Sarpa yoga to the lagna and Jupiter as well. Jupiter is also lord of A8. The lagna lord is in the 5th house in A8 and there is a parivartna beween Mars and Jupiter. Mars the LL and 6L is aspected by Rahu and also by the badhakesh. The child was born in Sun/Saturn/Jupiter/Saturn. The Sun is karaka for the health and the lagna and he does aspect the lagna but the vaara lord is Venus and dispositor of this Sun is placed in the 8th house, conjoined the 8th lord. There is a problem here with Agni, the digestive fire. Saturn is the Antara and he is in the AL and also aspecting the lord of the AL. In my opinion the AL has a lot to do with health matters and it is the arudha of the lagna after all. Saturn is also the karaka for disease and here he is aspected by the Sun and Rahu and that weak Jupiter and he occupies the badhakasthana. He is in the nakshatra of the Mercury the 8th lord and he is the lord of the 22nd drekkana. His placement in the 9th house is not auspicious for the native and we have another malefic in the 5th. This is a bandana yoga for the lagna, although Mars is the LL and should modify this. In addition, this Saturn aspects the 6th house and this is a real problem in my opinion. The 6th is surrounded by papa grahas and also aspected by the nodes and I see a major issue with the digestion and the capacity to absorb mother's milk. There is a digestive fire problem and indeed there may be a liver problem too. We might expect a Samana vayu and Pachaka pitta problem... in ayurvedic terms. Saturn is in the lagna in D-6 and D-30, a MKS for Saturn, and is blocking the flow of prana. The Sun is lord of the 6th house in D-6 and Saturn is in the 1st. The Sthira Paryaya dasa of Aq is active in D-6 and it is the 12th house with Jupiter, the LL placed there. The antara is Cn, the 6th from Aq and it is very afflicted by the nodes and its lord is gone to the 8th from the lagna. The Moon of course rules and is the karaka for milk and mother. It's placement in the 8th house here is problematic... a MKS for the Moon. There may be a problem bonding as well and the rasi should be examined further for this. AL and A4 are in 6/8. Doesn't every Scorpio lagna have some problem with this... with Saturn and Rahu ruling the 4th and the Moon being the badhakesha? The vaara lord is lord of the 8th in D-6 and neecha in the 7th and again we see a problem with the karaka for health and let me tell you that health is simply a matter of strong digestion. Agni is the solar energy and the vaara lord becomes very important in health matters. Is the child feeding properly? I suspect not at all. I hope this helps! All the best, Brendan SJC Jyotish Guru Dear members i am attaching a chart of a baby,which is a month premature born and very light weight and very weak. 1)I want to know,is there any way to find,premature birth from the child, in this case,nodes influence on D9 lagna is the reason??? 2) Is the retro jupiter in lagna,debilitated in D9,is the reason for bad health?? even though Mars lagnadhipathi,and sun are well placed, and possess strength in navamasa too..why the child is weak?? 3)since mars the lagndhipathi, in 11 from Sun indicate the childs health will improve on time???? plz correct me if am wrong.. plz respected members give ur valuable findings thanks in advance sumanth See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Dear visti, Here is a case of premature birth. If we look at adhan teaching, from the chart Lagna lord Mras is placed in Invisible half showing less than 273 days intrautreun life . But Mars as lagna lord has exchange with Jupiter So simple interpretation should be child should have stayed in side womb for more than 273 days. Can you expalin Why child is born premature? I think answer may lie in Adhan chakra, but calculation of Lagna degree in Adhan chakra is unclear to me. Any guidelines.I mean rider, exception etc here. OM TAT SAT - sumanth krishna list ; Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:29 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Premature Baby in bad health Dear members i am attaching a chart of a baby,which is a month premature born and very light weight and very weak. 1)I want to know,is there any way to find,premature birth from the child, in this case,nodes influence on D9 lagna is the reason??? 2) Is the retro jupiter in lagna,debilitated in D9,is the reason for bad health?? even though Mars lagnadhipathi,and sun are well placed, and possess strength in navamasa too..why the child is weak?? 3)since mars the lagndhipathi, in 11 from Sun indicate the childs health will improve on time???? plz correct me if am wrong.. plz respected members give ur valuable findings thanks in advance sumanth Get your own web address.Have a HUGE year through Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Srivastava, Namaskar The given chart: Natal Chart May 25, 2007 Time: 9:57:00 pm Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 84 W 23' 17", 33 N 44' 56" Atlanta, Georgia, USA Altitude: 50.00 meters As I had explained in the same lecture, the method of ascertaining premature delivery is different, because the method I taught so far can only show birth 30 days prior or 30 days after the nine month period. So we need to use different principles to ascertain birth after seven months, and that too we should be able to define birth 30 days prior or after the seven month period. Here they are: i) There must be some balarishta yoga of some sorts. In this chart Lagna is in Moola Gandanta justifying some balarishta. There is Sarpa yoga. ii) Venus must have the strongest influence on the eighth house. Here the eighth house is occupied by Mercury and Venus. Mercury is in own sign, but being the lord and joined Venus, Venus will dominate. iii) Navamsa lagna must be in first/seventh from Venus. This last point is used for rectification Now you can use the adhana chakra principles, but instead of 273 days (27.3x10) as the spectrum for analysis, we will use 27.3x8 = 218.4 days for the base span of pregnancy. Ascertaining the length. - Now see that lagnesh is indicating birth AFTER 218 days due to Parivartana. Fine-tuning the day - The Saturn-Gulika correction indicates a three day difference, i.e. after 221 days the child was born. This is about 16th October 2006. Chandra Rasi - The moon must be in kendra to natal moon, so we will select the closest dual sign on 19th of October 2006. Lagna - Lagna at birth is Scorpio, so at Adhana it must be Taurus. Hora - Birth was during nighttime, so adhana must have day-forces stronger. Taurus is a night sign and thus Moons hora will have day-forces stronger. Lagna degree - At birth the span of night at birth was 9hrs, 53 minutes and birth was 1hr, 19 minutes after sunset. This indicates a fraction of 13% of night passed. So similarly the lagna will be 13% of the Moons hora in Taurus lagna. This is 3:59:48 degrees of Taurus lagna. Final result: Adhana Chart October 19, 2006 Time: 8:31:35 pm Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 84 W 23' 17", 33 N 44' 56" Atlanta, Georgia, USA Altitude: 50.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Vyaya - Aswayuja Tithi: Krishna Chaturdasi (Ve) (99.40% left) Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (10.47% left) Yoga: Indra (Ra) (41.47% left) Karana: Vishti (Sa) (98.80% left) Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Ar) Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Ta) Kaala Lord: Moon (Mahakala: Rahu) Sunrise: 7:45:42 am Sunset: 6:57:12 pm Janma Ghatis: 31.9119 Ayanamsa: 23-57-09.05 Sidereal Time: 20:47:23 Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com swamircs wrote: Dear visti, Here is a case of premature birth. If we look at adhan teaching, from the chart Lagna lord Mras is placed in Invisible half showing less than 273 days intrautreun life . But Mars as lagna lord has exchange with Jupiter So simple interpretation should be child should have stayed in side womb for more than 273 days. Can you expalin Why child is born premature? I think answer may lie in Adhan chakra, but calculation of Lagna degree in Adhan chakra is unclear to me. Any guidelines.I mean rider, exception etc here. OM TAT SAT ----- Original Message ----- sumanth krishna To: list ; Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:29 PM Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Premature Baby in bad health Dear members i am attaching a chart of a baby,which is a month premature born and very light weight and very weak. 1)I want to know,is there any way to find,premature birth from the child, in this case,nodes influence on D9 lagna is the reason??? 2) Is the retro jupiter in lagna,debilitated in D9,is the reason for bad health?? even though Mars lagnadhipathi,and sun are well placed, and possess strength in navamasa too..why the child is weak?? 3)since mars the lagndhipathi, in 11 from Sun indicate the childs health will improve on time???? plz correct me if am wrong.. plz respected members give ur valuable findings thanks in advance sumanth Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 II Om Gurave Namah IIHari OM Dear Visti, Thanks for your educative reply. You are great as ever. OM TAT SAT OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.SrivastavaB.Sc., Grad ; Telecom Engg: Grad Ayurveda, JyotishiTel: +91 562-2232323/4001223;Mob 9412268768 Email: swami_rcs:Skype: swami daivayga ------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." - Visti Larsen Monday, June 04, 2007 5:40 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Premature Baby in bad health हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Srivastava, NamaskarThe given chart:Natal Chart May 25, 2007Time: 9:57:00 pmTime Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 84 W 23' 17", 33 N 44' 56" Atlanta, Georgia, USAAltitude: 50.00 meters As I had explained in the same lecture, the method of ascertaining premature delivery is different, because the method I taught so far can only show birth 30 days prior or 30 days after the nine month period. So we need to use different principles to ascertain birth after seven months, and that too we should be able to define birth 30 days prior or after the seven month period. Here they are:i) There must be some balarishta yoga of some sorts. In this chart Lagna is in Moola Gandanta justifying some balarishta. There is Sarpa yoga.ii) Venus must have the strongest influence on the eighth house. Here the eighth house is occupied by Mercury and Venus. Mercury is in own sign, but being the lord and joined Venus, Venus will dominate.iii) Navamsa lagna must be in first/seventh from Venus. This last point is used for rectification Now you can use the adhana chakra principles, but instead of 273 days (27.3x10) as the spectrum for analysis, we will use 27.3x8 = 218.4 days for the base span of pregnancy. Ascertaining the length.- Now see that lagnesh is indicating birth AFTER 218 days due to Parivartana. Fine-tuning the day - The Saturn-Gulika correction indicates a three day difference, i.e. after 221 days the child was born. This is about 16th October 2006. Chandra Rasi- The moon must be in kendra to natal moon, so we will select the closest dual sign on 19th of October 2006. Lagna- Lagna at birth is Scorpio, so at Adhana it must be Taurus. Hora- Birth was during nighttime, so adhana must have day-forces stronger. Taurus is a night sign and thus Moons hora will have day-forces stronger. Lagna degree- At birth the span of night at birth was 9hrs, 53 minutes and birth was 1hr, 19 minutes after sunset. This indicates a fraction of 13% of night passed. So similarly the lagna will be 13% of the Moons hora in Taurus lagna. This is 3:59:48 degrees of Taurus lagna. Final result: Adhana Chart October 19, 2006Time: 8:31:35 pmTime Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 84 W 23' 17", 33 N 44' 56" Atlanta, Georgia, USAAltitude: 50.00 metersLunar Yr-Mo: Vyaya - AswayujaTithi: Krishna Chaturdasi (Ve) (99.40% left)Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju)Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (10.47% left)Yoga: Indra (Ra) (41.47% left)Karana: Vishti (Sa) (98.80% left)Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Ar)Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Ta)Kaala Lord: Moon (Mahakala: Rahu)Sunrise: 7:45:42 amSunset: 6:57:12 pmJanma Ghatis: 31.9119Ayanamsa: 23-57-09.05Sidereal Time: 20:47:23 Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC GuruJaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com swamircs wrote: Dear visti, Here is a case of premature birth. If we look at adhan teaching, from the chart Lagna lord Mras is placed in Invisible half showing less than 273 days intrautreun life . But Mars as lagna lord has exchange with Jupiter So simple interpretation should be child should have stayed in side womb for more than 273 days. Can you expalin Why child is born premature? I think answer may lie in Adhan chakra, but calculation of Lagna degree in Adhan chakra is unclear to me. Any guidelines.I mean rider, exception etc here. OM TAT SAT - sumanth krishna list ; Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:29 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Premature Baby in bad health Dear members i am attaching a chart of a baby,which is a month premature born and very light weight and very weak. 1)I want to know,is there any way to find,premature birth from the child, in this case,nodes influence on D9 lagna is the reason??? 2) Is the retro jupiter in lagna,debilitated in D9,is the reason for bad health?? even though Mars lagnadhipathi,and sun are well placed, and possess strength in navamasa too..why the child is weak?? 3)since mars the lagndhipathi, in 11 from Sun indicate the childs health will improve on time???? plz correct me if am wrong.. plz respected members give ur valuable findings thanks in advance sumanth Get your own web address.Have a HUGE year through Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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