Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Rajarshi Namaste Will attempt this answer below: 2)Also it is mentioned that as with " om namah narayanaya " . the source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is 8th house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the difference between the source and destination house and add the same from the destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the correct method? -Thanks in advance Rajarshi Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual energy emanates from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the tenth.) So this mantra protects the kendra and professional issues.Incidentally, Markandeya Muni recited the same and survived Yama's snatch at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha Upapurana). love, Swee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar. Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems based on the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of 6th, 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both. Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the lagna, viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making the mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th), dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th). These steps have been described in VRA. Hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti swee skrev: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Rajarshi Namaste Will attempt this answer below: 2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya". the source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is 8th house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the difference between the source and destination house and add the same from the destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the correct method? -Thanks in advance Rajarshi Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual energy emanates from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the tenth.) So this mantra protects the kendra and professional issues.Incidentally, Markandeya Muni recited the same and survived Yama's snatch at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha Upapurana). love, Swee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Dear Visti, Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. Specially about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna and lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing vimsottari dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some porblems as well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what would be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is the afflicting planet? Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example can mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health protection? -Thanks a lot in advance RajarshiVisti Larsen <visti wrote: हरे राम कृष्णDear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar.Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems based on the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of 6th, 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both.Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the lagna, viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making the mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th), dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th).These steps have been described in VRA.Hope this helps.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm skrev: Jaya JagannathaDear RajarshiNamasteWill attempt this answer below:2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya". thesource is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is 8thhouse (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the 8thhouse, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a mantrais always fifth from the house representing the number of aksharas?I had read in an article that we should count the difference betweenthe source and destination house and add the same from thedestination house to find where the devata sits. So which is thecorrect method?-Thanks in advanceRajarshiTne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om NamoNarayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual energy emanatesfrom. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the tenth.) Sothis mantra protects the kendra and professional issues.Incidentally, Markandeya Muni recited the same and survived Yama's snatchat aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha Upapurana).love,Swee Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing to ripus. The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana mantra will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. This should be started from a Sunday. There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra during this time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra is very much advised. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. Specially about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna and lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing vimsottari dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some porblems as well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what would be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is the afflicting planet? Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example can mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health protection? -Thanks a lot in advance Rajarshi Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar. Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems based on the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of 6th, 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both. Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the lagna, viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making the mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th), dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th). These steps have been described in VRA. Hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm skrev: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Rajarshi Namaste Will attempt this answer below: 2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya". the source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is 8th house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the difference between the source and destination house and add the same from the destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the correct method? -Thanks in advance Rajarshi Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual energy emanates from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the tenth.) So this mantra protects the kendra and professional issues.Incidentally, Markandeya Muni recited the same and survived Yama's snatch at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha Upapurana). love, Swee Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Dear Guruji Visti, I am a new entrant on this group. Can u please advise what is "ripus" thanks Smart Player Visti Larsen <visti Sent: Monday, 14 April, 2008 3:46:37 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy) हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing to ripus. The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana mantra will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. This should be started from a Sunday.There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra during this time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra is very much advised.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. Specially about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna and lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing vimsottari dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some porblems as well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what would be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is the afflicting planet? Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example can mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health protection? -Thanks a lot in advance RajarshiVisti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar.Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems based on the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of 6th, 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both.Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the lagna, viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making the mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th), dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th).These steps have been described in VRA.Hope this helps.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm skrev: Jaya JagannathaDear RajarshiNamasteWill attempt this answer below:2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya". thesource is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is 8thhouse (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the 8thhouse, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a mantrais always fifth from the house representing the number of aksharas?I had read in an article that we should count the difference betweenthe source and destination house and add the same from thedestination house to find where the devata sits. So which is thecorrect method?-Thanks in advanceRajarshiTne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om NamoNarayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual energy emanatesfrom. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the tenth.) Sothis mantra protects the kendra and professional issues.Incidentally , Markandeya Muni recited the same and survived Yama's snatchat aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha Upapurana).love,Swee Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Sir, Namaskar. Ripu is often translated as 'sin', yet unlike in christian terminology where sin indicates a wrong action, in the vedic understanding it refers to a weakness in the native. Instead the eighth house confers more with the christian understanding of 'sin'. Ripu refers to six specific weaknesses: anger lust (kaama), (krodha), greed (lobha), obsession (moha), alcoholism (madha) and sexual addiction (mastyara). The sixth house shows all of these. This is part of vedic/sanskrit terminology and not specifically part of Jyotish or this group. Hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti smart player skrev: Dear Guruji Visti,  I am a new entrant on this group.  Can u please advise what is "ripus" thanks  Smart Player ----- Original Message ---- Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> Monday, 14 April, 2008 3:46:37 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy) हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing to ripus. The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana mantra will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. This should be started from a Sunday. There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra during this time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra is very much advised. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti,  Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. Specially about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna and lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing vimsottari dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some porblems as well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what would be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is the afflicting planet?  Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example can mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health protection?  -Thanks a lot in advance  Rajarshi Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar. Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems based on the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of 6th, 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both. Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the lagna, viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making the mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th), dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th). These steps have been described in VRA. Hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm skrev: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Rajarshi Namaste Will attempt this answer below: 2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya". the source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is 8th house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the difference between the source and destination house and add the same from the destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the correct method? -Thanks in advance Rajarshi Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual energy emanates from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the tenth.) So this mantra protects the kendra and professional issues.Incidentally , Markandeya Muni recited the same and survived Yama's snatch at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha Upapurana). love, Swee Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam  Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Visti, Namaste Thank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is merely based on planetary placement - which in this case is the 6th house. So we should be looking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that ripu. In the case of Mithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and aspects the 8th, 11th and 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case, does nothing for the lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with its lord placement. What about the number of words? Not important? love, Swee > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing to ripus. > The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana mantra > will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. This > should be started from a Sunday. > There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra during this > time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra is very > much advised. > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > www: http://srigaruda.com > @: visti > > rajarshi nandy skrev: >> Dear Visti, >> >> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. Specially >> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna and >> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing vimsottari >> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some porblems as >> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what would >> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is the >> afflicting planet? >> >> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any >> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example can >> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health >> protection? >> >> -Thanks a lot in advance >> Rajarshi >> >> */Visti Larsen <visti/* wrote: >> >> ??? ??? ????? >> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar. >> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems based on >> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam >> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of 6th, >> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of >> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both. >> >> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is >> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third >> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the lagna, >> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance >> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra >> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making the >> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it >> does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th), >> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th). >> These steps have been described in VRA. >> Hope this helps. >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen >> ---------- >> www: http://srigaruda.com >> @: visti >> >> swee skrev: >>> Jaya Jagannatha >>> >>> Dear Rajarshi >>> Namaste >>> >>> Will attempt this answer below: >>> >>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with " om namah narayanaya " . the >>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is 8th >>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the >>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a >>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of >>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the >>> difference between the source and destination house and add the >>> same from the >>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the >>> correct method? >>> >>> -Thanks in advance >>> Rajarshi >>> >>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om >>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual >>> energy emanates >>> from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the >>> tenth.) So >>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional >>> issues.Incidentally, Markandeya Muni recited the same and >>> survived Yama's snatch >>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha >>> Upapurana). >>> love, >>> >>> Swee >>> >> >> >> >> /* >> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam* >> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||* >> */ >> >> ------ >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here >> <http://in.rd./tagline_webmessenger_2/*http://in.messenger./we\ bmessengerpromo.php>>> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Dear Guruji Vistiji, To clear the ripu in the 6th house would a prayer of Shiva ie Om Namoh Shivay be effective since it is a 6 akshara mantra / prayer. ? Pls advise. Smart Player "swee" <swee Sent: Monday, 14 April, 2008 6:11:57 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy) Jaya JagannathaDear Visti,NamasteThank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is merely based onplanetary placement - which in this case is the 6th house. So we should belooking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that ripu. In the case ofMithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and aspects the 8th, 11thand 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case, does nothing forthe lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with its lord placement.What about the number of words? Not important?love,Swee> ??? ??? ?????> Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing to ripus.> The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana mantra> will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. This> should be started from a Sunday.> There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra during this> time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra is very> much advised.> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> www: http://srigaruda. com> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> rajarshi nandy skrev:>> Dear Visti,>>>> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. Specially>> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna and>> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing vimsottari>> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some porblems as>> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what would>> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is the>> afflicting planet?>>>> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any>> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example can>> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health>> protection?>>>> -Thanks a lot in advance>> Rajarshi>>>> */Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote:>>>> ??? ??? ?????>> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar.>> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems based on>> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam>> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of 6th,>> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of>> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both.>>>> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is>> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third>> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the lagna,>> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance>> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra>> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making the>> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it>> does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th),>> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th).>> These steps have been described in VRA.>> Hope this helps.>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---->> www: http://srigaruda. com>> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>>>> swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm skrev:>>> Jaya Jagannatha>>>>>> Dear Rajarshi>>> Namaste>>>>>> Will attempt this answer below:>>>>>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya". the>>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is 8th>>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the>>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a>>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of>>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the>>> difference between the source and destination house and add the>>> same from the>>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the>>> correct method?>>>>>> -Thanks in advance>>> Rajarshi>>>>>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om>>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual>>> energy emanates>>> from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the>>> tenth.) So>>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional>>> issues.Incidentally , Markandeya Muni recited the same and>>> survived Yama's snatch>>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha>>> Upapurana).>>> love,>>>>>> Swee>>>>>>>>>>> /*>> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam*>> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||*>> */>>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ->> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Hari OmDear Visti, NamasteCould you please throw more light on the 10th Budha as a problem to be propitiated? Thanks and best regards.PG wrote:4a. Re: To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy) Posted by: "Visti Larsen" visti in_joy_i_scream Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:07 am ((PDT))Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar.Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems based on the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of 6th, 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both.Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the lagna, viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making the mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th), dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th).These steps have been described in VRA.Hope this helps.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Swee, Namaskar. Glad to be typing with you. I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-kriya, -bhoga and -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-astakshari. Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we first have to identify the source of the problem first, viz.: If Surya is a problem then the atma itself is suffering and therefore Shiva mantras are necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at its core an unfulfilled desire for wealth is likely to cause the problem and Vishnu will bless the native to overcome this problem. Like this we can continue. Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive their energy from the third house, a house which rules our hands and therefore the first act of karma. If malefics are causing the problem, it would be a good idea to choose mantras which have the same number of words as the house where the malefic is posited. I.e. for malefics in the fourth house, it would be advisable to choose mantras consisting of four words. If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house of Ripu. Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu mantra: om vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the number of aksharas coincide with is the house of focus and where the fruits will be felt. The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the intelligence of the Devata is experienced. So if a problem is that the native isn't thinking propperly to begin with, then mantras where the mantra-devata sits on the first house are necessary. Some excellent ones for Vishnu and Narayana are: om namo naaraayanaaya vyam vyasadevaaya namah om vasudevaaya namah kliiM vasudevaaya namah Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti swee skrev: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Visti, Namaste Thank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is merely based on planetary placement - which in this case is the 6th house. So we should be looking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that ripu. In the case of Mithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and aspects the 8th, 11th and 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case, does nothing for the lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with its lord placement. What about the number of words? Not important? love, Swee > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing to ripus. > The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana mantra > will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. This > should be started from a Sunday. > There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra during this > time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra is very > much advised. > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > www: http://srigaruda.com > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > rajarshi nandy skrev: >> Dear Visti, >> >> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. Specially >> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna and >> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing vimsottari >> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some porblems as >> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what would >> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is the >> afflicting planet? >> >> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any >> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example can >> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health >> protection? >> >> -Thanks a lot in advance >> Rajarshi >> >> */Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote: >> >> ??? ??? ????? >> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar. >> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems based on >> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam >> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of 6th, >> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of >> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both. >> >> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is >> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third >> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the lagna, >> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance >> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra >> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making the >> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it >> does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th), >> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th). >> These steps have been described in VRA. >> Hope this helps. >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen >> ---------- >> www: http://srigaruda.com >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com >> >> swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm skrev: >>> Jaya Jagannatha >>> >>> Dear Rajarshi >>> Namaste >>> >>> Will attempt this answer below: >>> >>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya". the >>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is 8th >>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the >>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a >>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of >>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the >>> difference between the source and destination house and add the >>> same from the >>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the >>> correct method? >>> >>> -Thanks in advance >>> Rajarshi >>> >>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om >>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual >>> energy emanates >>> from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the >>> tenth.) So >>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional >>> issues.Incidentally, Markandeya Muni recited the same and >>> survived Yama's snatch >>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha >>> Upapurana). >>> love, >>> >>> Swee >>> >> >> >> >> /* >> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam* >> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||* >> */ >> >> ------------------------- >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear PG, Namaskar. Budha in tenth is not a problem, i think you misread my mail. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Patheya Goyal skrev: Hari Om Dear Visti, Namaste Could you please throw more light on the 10th Budha as a problem to be propitiated? Thanks and best regards. PG wrote: 4a. Re: To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy) Posted by: "Visti Larsen" visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com in_joy_i_scream Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:07 am ((PDT)) Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar. Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems based on the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of 6th, 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both. Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the lagna, viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making the mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th), dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th). These steps have been described in VRA. Hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Dear Visti, My understanding of mantra kriya, -bhoga and davata is as follows: A 3 word matra with 6 aksharas will transfer the energy of the 3rd house to the 8th (6th from the 3rd). The devata will sit in the 6th house from the 8th which is the Lagna. Can you clarify that you are saying the same thing as I read from your post that the 6th is energized instead of the 8th. My understanding is similar to Swee's and come from VRA. Regards, Mike , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Swee, Namaskar. > Glad to be typing with you. > I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-kriya, -bhoga and > -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-astakshari. > Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we first have to > identify the source of the problem first, viz.: If Surya is a problem > then the atma itself is suffering and therefore Shiva mantras are > necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at its core an unfulfilled > desire for wealth is likely to cause the problem and Vishnu will bless > the native to overcome this problem. Like this we can continue. > > Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive their energy from > the third house, a house which rules our hands and therefore the first > act of karma. If malefics are causing the problem, it would be a good > idea to choose mantras which have the same number of words as the house > where the malefic is posited. I.e. for malefics in the fourth house, it > would be advisable to choose mantras consisting of four words. > > If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house of Ripu. > Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu mantra: om > vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the number of aksharas > coincide with is the house of focus and where the fruits will be felt. > The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the intelligence of > the Devata is experienced. So if a problem is that the native isn't > thinking propperly to begin with, then mantras where the mantra- devata > sits on the first house are necessary. Some excellent ones for Vishnu > and Narayana are: > om namo naaraayanaaya > vyam vyasadevaaya namah > om vasudevaaya namah > kliiM vasudevaaya namah > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > www: http://srigaruda.com > @: visti > > swee skrev: > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Visti, > > Namaste > > > > Thank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is merely based on > > planetary placement - which in this case is the 6th house. So we should be > > looking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that ripu. In the case of > > Mithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and aspects the 8th, 11th > > and 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case, does nothing for > > the lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with its lord placement. > > What about the number of words? Not important? > > love, > > > > Swee > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing to ripus. > > > The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana mantra > > > will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. This > > > should be started from a Sunday. > > > There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra during this > > > time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra is very > > > much advised. > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > ---------- > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > @: visti <visti%40srigaruda.com> > > > > > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > >> Dear Visti, > > >> > > >> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. Specially > > >> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna and > > >> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing vimsottari > > >> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some porblems as > > >> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what would > > >> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is the > > >> afflicting planet? > > >> > > >> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any > > >> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example can > > >> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health > > >> protection? > > >> > > >> -Thanks a lot in advance > > >> Rajarshi > > >> > > >> */Visti Larsen <visti > > <visti%40srigaruda.com>>/* wrote: > > >> > > >> ??? ??? ????? > > >> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > >> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems based on > > >> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam > > >> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of 6th, > > >> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of > > >> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both. > > >> > > >> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is > > >> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third > > >> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the lagna, > > >> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance > > >> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra > > >> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making the > > >> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it > > >> does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th), > > >> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th). > > >> These steps have been described in VRA. > > >> Hope this helps. > > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > >> ---------- > > >> www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > >> @: visti <visti%40srigaruda.com> > > >> > > >> swee <swee%40coppernet.zm> skrev: > > >>> Jaya Jagannatha > > >>> > > >>> Dear Rajarshi > > >>> Namaste > > >>> > > >>> Will attempt this answer below: > > >>> > > >>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with " om namah narayanaya " . the > > >>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is 8th > > >>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the > > >>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a > > >>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of > > >>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the > > >>> difference between the source and destination house and add the > > >>> same from the > > >>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the > > >>> correct method? > > >>> > > >>> -Thanks in advance > > >>> Rajarshi > > >>> > > >>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om > > >>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual > > >>> energy emanates > > >>> from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the > > >>> tenth.) So > > >>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional > > >>> issues.Incidentally, Markandeya Muni recited the same and > > >>> survived Yama's snatch > > >>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha > > >>> Upapurana). > > >>> love, > > >>> > > >>> Swee > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> /* > > >> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam* > > >> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||* > > >> */ > > >> > > >> ------------------------- > > >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here > > >> > > <http://in.rd./tagline_webmessenger_2/*http://in.messenger.ya hoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php > > <http://in.rd./tagline_webmessenger_2/*http://in.messenger.ya hoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php>>>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Mike, Namaskar. I think you both misunderstood the principle. Please read page 379 in VRA again. The example given there is for the Narayana Astakshari - i.e. the 8 syllable Narayana mantra. It has 3 words and 8 aksharas. Therefore the mantrakriya is the third house and the mantrabhoga is the eighth house (from lagna). Since the mantrabhoga is in the sixth from the mantrakriya, we count the sixth (again) from the mantrabhoga (which was eighth house) to arrive at the mantradevata which is the lagna in this case. If this was for a 3 word and 6 syllable mantra like 'om vishnave namah', then the mantrakriya is in the third house, mantrabhoga is in the sixth house (from lagna) and the mantradevata sits in the ninth house (again from lagna). Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti mikefranc01 skrev: Dear Visti, My understanding of mantra kriya, -bhoga and davata is as follows: A 3 word matra with 6 aksharas will transfer the energy of the 3rd house to the 8th (6th from the 3rd). The devata will sit in the 6th house from the 8th which is the Lagna. Can you clarify that you are saying the same thing as I read from your post that the 6th is energized instead of the 8th. My understanding is similar to Swee's and come from VRA. Regards, Mike , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Swee, Namaskar. > Glad to be typing with you. > I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-kriya, -bhoga and > -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-astakshari. > Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we first have to > identify the source of the problem first, viz.: If Surya is a problem > then the atma itself is suffering and therefore Shiva mantras are > necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at its core an unfulfilled > desire for wealth is likely to cause the problem and Vishnu will bless > the native to overcome this problem. Like this we can continue. > > Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive their energy from > the third house, a house which rules our hands and therefore the first > act of karma. If malefics are causing the problem, it would be a good > idea to choose mantras which have the same number of words as the house > where the malefic is posited. I.e. for malefics in the fourth house, it > would be advisable to choose mantras consisting of four words. > > If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house of Ripu. > Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu mantra: om > vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the number of aksharas > coincide with is the house of focus and where the fruits will be felt. > The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the intelligence of > the Devata is experienced. So if a problem is that the native isn't > thinking propperly to begin with, then mantras where the mantra- devata > sits on the first house are necessary. Some excellent ones for Vishnu > and Narayana are: > om namo naaraayanaaya > vyam vyasadevaaya namah > om vasudevaaya namah > kliiM vasudevaaya namah > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > www: http://srigaruda.com > @: visti > > swee skrev: > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Visti, > > Namaste > > > > Thank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is merely based on > > planetary placement - which in this case is the 6th house. So we should be > > looking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that ripu. In the case of > > Mithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and aspects the 8th, 11th > > and 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case, does nothing for > > the lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with its lord placement. > > What about the number of words? Not important? > > love, > > > > Swee > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing to ripus. > > > The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana mantra > > > will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. This > > > should be started from a Sunday. > > > There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra during this > > > time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra is very > > > much advised. > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > ---------- > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > @: visti <visti%40srigaruda.com> > > > > > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > >> Dear Visti, > > >> > > >> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. Specially > > >> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna and > > >> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing vimsottari > > >> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some porblems as > > >> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what would > > >> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is the > > >> afflicting planet? > > >> > > >> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any > > >> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example can > > >> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health > > >> protection? > > >> > > >> -Thanks a lot in advance > > >> Rajarshi > > >> > > >> */Visti Larsen <visti > > <visti%40srigaruda.com>>/* wrote: > > >> > > >> ??? ??? ????? > > >> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > >> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems based on > > >> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam > > >> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of 6th, > > >> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of > > >> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both. > > >> > > >> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is > > >> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third > > >> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the lagna, > > >> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance > > >> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra > > >> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making the > > >> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it > > >> does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th), > > >> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th). > > >> These steps have been described in VRA. > > >> Hope this helps. > > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > >> ---------- > > >> www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > >> @: visti <visti%40srigaruda.com> > > >> > > >> swee <swee%40coppernet.zm> skrev: > > >>> Jaya Jagannatha > > >>> > > >>> Dear Rajarshi > > >>> Namaste > > >>> > > >>> Will attempt this answer below: > > >>> > > >>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya". the > > >>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is 8th > > >>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the > > >>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a > > >>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of > > >>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the > > >>> difference between the source and destination house and add the > > >>> same from the > > >>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the > > >>> correct method? > > >>> > > >>> -Thanks in advance > > >>> Rajarshi > > >>> > > >>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om > > >>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual > > >>> energy emanates > > >>> from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the > > >>> tenth.) So > > >>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional > > >>> issues.Incidentally, Markandeya Muni recited the same and > > >>> survived Yama's snatch > > >>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha > > >>> Upapurana). > > >>> love, > > >>> > > >>> Swee > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> /* > > >> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam* > > >> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||* > > >> */ > > >> > > >> ------------------------- > > >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here > > >> > > <http://in.rd./tagline_webmessenger_2/*http://in.messenger.ya hoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php > > <http://in.rd./tagline_webmessenger_2/*http://in.messenger.ya hoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php>>>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Jaya JagannathaDear Visti,NamasteAgree on most points except that as far as I am told and believe, the two syllabic mantras which have the most potencies are:Shi-va, Krish-na, Vish-nu )Hence one word and the lagna becomes the source and the strengths and energies are shifted to the second house.Thanks for the exchange.love,SweeOn 14 Apr 2008, at 20:05, Visti Larsen wrote:हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Swee, Namaskar.Glad to be typing with you.I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-kriya, -bhoga and -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-astakshari.Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we first have to identify the source of the problem first, viz.: If Surya is a problem then the atma itself is suffering and therefore Shiva mantras are necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at its core an unfulfilled desire for wealth is likely to cause the problem and Vishnu will bless the native to overcome this problem. Like this we can continue.Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive their energy from the third house, a house which rules our hands and therefore the first act of karma. If malefics are causing the problem, it would be a good idea to choose mantras which have the same number of words as the house where the malefic is posited. I.e. for malefics in the fourth house, it would be advisable to choose mantras consisting of four words.If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house of Ripu. Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu mantra: om vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the number of aksharas coincide with is the house of focus and where the fruits will be felt.The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the intelligence of the Devata is experienced. So if a problem is that the native isn't thinking propperly to begin with, then mantras where the mantra-devata sits on the first house are necessary. Some excellent ones for Vishnu and Narayana are:om namo naaraayanaayavyam vyasadevaaya namahom vasudevaaya namahkliiM vasudevaaya namahYours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm skrev:Jaya JagannathaDear Visti,NamasteThank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is merely based onplanetary placement - which in this case is the 6th house. So we should belooking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that ripu. In the case ofMithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and aspects the 8th, 11thand 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case, does nothing forthe lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with its lord placement.What about the number of words? Not important?love,Swee> ??? ??? ?????> Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing to ripus.> The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana mantra> will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. This> should be started from a Sunday.> There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra during this> time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra is very> much advised.> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ----------> www: http://srigaruda.com> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> rajarshi nandy skrev:>> Dear Visti,>>>> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. Specially>> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna and>> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing vimsottari>> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some porblems as>> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what would>> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is the>> afflicting planet?>>>> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any>> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example can>> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health>> protection?>>>> -Thanks a lot in advance>> Rajarshi>>>> */Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote:>>>> ??? ??? ?????>> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar.>> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems based on>> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam>> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of 6th,>> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of>> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both.>>>> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is>> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third>> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the lagna,>> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance>> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra>> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making the>> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it>> does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th),>> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th).>> These steps have been described in VRA.>> Hope this helps.>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen>> ---------->> www: http://srigaruda.com>> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>>>> swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm skrev:>>> Jaya Jagannatha>>>>>> Dear Rajarshi>>> Namaste>>>>>> Will attempt this answer below:>>>>>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya". the>>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is 8th>>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the>>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a>>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of>>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the>>> difference between the source and destination house and add the>>> same from the>>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the>>> correct method?>>>>>> -Thanks in advance>>> Rajarshi>>>>>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om>>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual>>> energy emanates>>> from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the>>> tenth.) So>>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional>>> issues.Incidentally, Markandeya Muni recited the same and>>> survived Yama's snatch>>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha>>> Upapurana).>>> love,>>>>>> Swee>>>>>>>>>>> /*>> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam*>> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||*>> */>>>> ------------------------->> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here>> <http://in.rd./tagline_webmessenger_2/*http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Thnaks Visti. For the Ganpati mantra " Om gang ganapathaye namah " (4 words and 10 letters), the energy of the 4th house is transfered to the 10th and the devata sits in 4th house (source house). What does this mean? What will be the effects in this case. Regards, Mike , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Mike, Namaskar. > I think you both misunderstood the principle. Please read page 379 in > VRA again. > The example given there is for the Narayana Astakshari - i.e. the 8 > syllable Narayana mantra. > It has 3 words and 8 aksharas. Therefore the mantrakriya is the third > house and the mantrabhoga is the eighth house (from lagna). Since the > mantrabhoga is in the sixth from the mantrakriya, we count the sixth > (again) from the mantrabhoga (which was eighth house) to arrive at the > mantradevata which is the lagna in this case. > > If this was for a 3 word and 6 syllable mantra like 'om vishnave namah', > then the mantrakriya is in the third house, mantrabhoga is in the sixth > house (from lagna) and the mantradevata sits in the ninth house (again > from lagna). > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > www: http://srigaruda.com > @: visti > > mikefranc01 skrev: > > > > Dear Visti, > > My understanding of mantra kriya, -bhoga and davata is as follows: > > A 3 word matra with 6 aksharas will transfer the energy of the 3rd > > house to the 8th (6th from the 3rd). The devata will sit in the 6th > > house from the 8th which is the Lagna. > > Can you clarify that you are saying the same thing as I read from > > your post that the 6th is energized instead of the 8th. My > > understanding is similar to Swee's and come from VRA. > > Regards, > > Mike > > > > > > <%40>, Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > Dear Swee, Namaskar. > > > Glad to be typing with you. > > > I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-kriya, -bhoga > > and > > > -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-astakshari. > > > Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we first have > > to > > > identify the source of the problem first, viz.: If Surya is a > > problem > > > then the atma itself is suffering and therefore Shiva mantras are > > > necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at its core an unfulfilled > > > desire for wealth is likely to cause the problem and Vishnu will > > bless > > > the native to overcome this problem. Like this we can continue. > > > > > > Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive their energy > > from > > > the third house, a house which rules our hands and therefore the > > first > > > act of karma. If malefics are causing the problem, it would be a > > good > > > idea to choose mantras which have the same number of words as the > > house > > > where the malefic is posited. I.e. for malefics in the fourth > > house, it > > > would be advisable to choose mantras consisting of four words. > > > > > > If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house of Ripu. > > > Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu mantra: om > > > vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the number of > > aksharas > > > coincide with is the house of focus and where the fruits will be > > felt. > > > The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the > > intelligence of > > > the Devata is experienced. So if a problem is that the native isn't > > > thinking propperly to begin with, then mantras where the mantra- > > devata > > > sits on the first house are necessary. Some excellent ones for > > Vishnu > > > and Narayana are: > > > om namo naaraayanaaya > > > vyam vyasadevaaya namah > > > om vasudevaaya namah > > > kliiM vasudevaaya namah > > > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > ---------- > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > swee@ skrev: > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > Thank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is merely > > based on > > > > planetary placement - which in this case is the 6th house. So we > > should be > > > > looking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that ripu. In the > > case of > > > > Mithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and aspects the > > 8th, 11th > > > > and 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case, does > > nothing for > > > > the lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with its lord > > placement. > > > > What about the number of words? Not important? > > > > love, > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > > > If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing > > to ripus. > > > > > The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana > > mantra > > > > > will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. > > This > > > > > should be started from a Sunday. > > > > > There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra > > during this > > > > > time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra > > is very > > > > > much advised. > > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > > ---------- > > > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > @: visti@ <visti%40srigaruda.com> > > > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > > >> Dear Visti, > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. > > Specially > > > > >> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna > > and > > > > >> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing > > vimsottari > > > > >> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some > > porblems as > > > > >> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what > > would > > > > >> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is > > the > > > > >> afflicting planet? > > > > >> > > > > >> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant > > any > > > > >> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example > > can > > > > >> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health > > > > >> protection? > > > > >> > > > > >> -Thanks a lot in advance > > > > >> Rajarshi > > > > >> > > > > >> */Visti Larsen <visti@ > > > > <visti%40srigaruda.com>>/* wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> ??? ??? ????? > > > > >> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > > >> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems > > based on > > > > >> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha- shanibhyam > > > > >> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of > > 6th, > > > > >> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of > > > > >> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both. > > > > >> > > > > >> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra- bhoga > > is > > > > >> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third > > > > >> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the > > lagna, > > > > >> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same > > distance > > > > >> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this > > mantra > > > > >> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making > > the > > > > >> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it > > > > >> does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th), > > > > >> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th). > > > > >> These steps have been described in VRA. > > > > >> Hope this helps. > > > > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > >> ---------- > > > > >> www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > >> @: visti@ <visti%40srigaruda.com> > > > > >> > > > > >> swee@ <swee%40coppernet.zm> skrev: > > > > >>> Jaya Jagannatha > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Dear Rajarshi > > > > >>> Namaste > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Will attempt this answer below: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with " om namah narayanaya " . the > > > > >>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is > > 8th > > > > >>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from > > the > > > > >>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect > > of a > > > > >>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number > > of > > > > >>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the > > > > >>> difference between the source and destination house and add > > the > > > > >>> same from the > > > > >>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is > > the > > > > >>> correct method? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> -Thanks in advance > > > > >>> Rajarshi > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om > > > > >>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the > > spiritual > > > > >>> energy emanates > > > > >>> from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the > > > > >>> tenth.) So > > > > >>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional > > > > >>> issues.Incidentally, Markandeya Muni recited the same and > > > > >>> survived Yama's snatch > > > > >>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha > > > > >>> Upapurana). > > > > >>> love, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Swee > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> /* > > > > >> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam* > > > > >> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||* > > > > >> */ > > > > >> > > > > >> ------------------------- > > > > >> Did you know? 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Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008  Dear Swee, Namaste. Krishna & Vishnu should be 3 syllable. Kri+sh+na & Vi+sh+nu Am I right? jk On Behalf Of Swee ChanWednesday, April 16, 2008 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy) Jaya Jagannatha Dear Visti, Namaste Agree on most points except that as far as I am told and believe, the two syllabic mantras which have the most potencies are: Shi-va, Krish-na, Vish-nu ) Hence one word and the lagna becomes the source and the strengths and energies are shifted to the second house. Thanks for the exchange. love, Swee On 14 Apr 2008, at 20:05, Visti Larsen wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Swee, Namaskar.Glad to be typing with you.I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-kriya, -bhoga and -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-astakshari.Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we first have to identify the source of the problem first, viz.: If Surya is a problem then the atma itself is suffering and therefore Shiva mantras are necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at its core an unfulfilled desire for wealth is likely to cause the problem and Vishnu will bless the native to overcome this problem. Like this we can continue.Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive their energy from the third house, a house which rules our hands and therefore the first act of karma. If malefics are causing the problem, it would be a good idea to choose mantras which have the same number of words as the house where the malefic is posited. I.e. for malefics in the fourth house, it would be advisable to choose mantras consisting of four words.If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house of Ripu. Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu mantra: om vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the number of aksharas coincide with is the house of focus and where the fruits will be felt.The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the intelligence of the Devata is experienced. So if a problem is that the native isn't thinking propperly to begin with, then mantras where the mantra-devata sits on the first house are necessary. Some excellent ones for Vishnu and Narayana are:om namo naaraayanaayavyam vyasadevaaya namahom vasudevaaya namahkliiM vasudevaaya namahYours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm skrev: Jaya JagannathaDear Visti,NamasteThank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is merely based onplanetary placement - which in this case is the 6th house. So we should belooking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that ripu. In the case ofMithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and aspects the 8th, 11thand 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case, does nothing forthe lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with its lord placement.What about the number of words? Not important?love,Swee> ??? ??? ?????> Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing to ripus.> The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana mantra> will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. This> should be started from a Sunday.> There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra during this> time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra is very> much advised.> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ----------> www: http://srigaruda.com> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> rajarshi nandy skrev:>> Dear Visti,>>>> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. Specially>> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna and>> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing vimsottari>> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some porblems as>> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what would>> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is the>> afflicting planet?>>>> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any>> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example can>> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health>> protection?>>>> -Thanks a lot in advance>> Rajarshi>>>> */Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote:>>>> ??? ??? ?????>> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar.>> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems based on>> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam>> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of 6th,>> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of>> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both.>>>> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is>> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third>> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the lagna,>> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance>> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra>> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making the>> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it>> does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th),>> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th).>> These steps have been described in VRA.>> Hope this helps.>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen>> ---------->> www: http://srigaruda.com>> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>>>> swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm skrev:>>> Jaya Jagannatha>>>>>> Dear Rajarshi>>> Namaste>>>>>> Will attempt this answer below:>>>>>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya". the>>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is 8th>>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the>>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a>>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of>>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the>>> difference between the source and destination house and add the>>> same from the>>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the>>> correct method?>>>>>> -Thanks in advance>>> Rajarshi>>>>>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om>>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual>>> energy emanates>>> from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the>>> tenth.) So>>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional>>> issues.Incidentally, Markandeya Muni recited the same and>>> survived Yama's snatch>>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha>>> Upapurana).>>> love,>>>>>> Swee>>>>>>>>>>> /*>> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam*>> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||*>> */>>>> ------------------------->> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Dear Sir, Krishna is actually 2 and half syllables. That is why in the literature of the bhakti movement we find it mentioned that the name of Krishna is synonymous with prem. Dhai akshar is the key. -Regards Rajarshi"jk.dasgupta" <jk.dasgupta wrote:  Dear Swee, Namaste. Krishna & Vishnu should be 3 syllable. Kri+sh+na & Vi+sh+nu Am I right? jk On Behalf Of Swee ChanWednesday, April 16, 2008 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy) Jaya Jagannatha Dear Visti, Namaste Agree on most points except that as far as I am told and believe, the two syllabic mantras which have the most potencies are: Shi-va, Krish-na, Vish-nu ) Hence one word and the lagna becomes the source and the strengths and energies are shifted to the second house. Thanks for the exchange. love, Swee On 14 Apr 2008, at 20:05, Visti Larsen wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Swee, Namaskar.Glad to be typing with you.I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-kriya, -bhoga and -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-astakshari.Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we first have to identify the source of the problem first, viz.: If Surya is a problem then the atma itself is suffering and therefore Shiva mantras are necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at its core an unfulfilled desire for wealth is likely to cause the problem and Vishnu will bless the native to overcome this problem. Like this we can continue.Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive their energy from the third house, a house which rules our hands and therefore the first act of karma. If malefics are causing the problem, it would be a good idea to choose mantras which have the same number of words as the house where the malefic is posited. I.e. for malefics in the fourth house, it would be advisable to choose mantras consisting of four words.If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house of Ripu. Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu mantra: om vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the number of aksharas coincide with is the house of focus and where the fruits will be felt.The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the intelligence of the Devata is experienced. So if a problem is that the native isn't thinking propperly to begin with, then mantras where the mantra-devata sits on the first house are necessary. Some excellent ones for Vishnu and Narayana are:om namo naaraayanaayavyam vyasadevaaya namahom vasudevaaya namahkliiM vasudevaaya namahYours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm skrev: Jaya JagannathaDear Visti,NamasteThank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is merely based onplanetary placement - which in this case is the 6th house. So we should belooking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that ripu. In the case ofMithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and aspects the 8th, 11thand 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case, does nothing forthe lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with its lord placement.What about the number of words? Not important?love,Swee> ??? ??? ?????> Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing to ripus.> The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana mantra> will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. This> should be started from a Sunday.> There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra during this> time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra is very> much advised.> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ----------> www: http://srigaruda.com> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> rajarshi nandy skrev:>> Dear Visti,>>>> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. Specially>> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna and>> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing vimsottari>> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some porblems as>> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what would>> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is the>> afflicting planet?>>>> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any>> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example can>> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health>> protection?>>>> -Thanks a lot in advance>> Rajarshi>>>> */Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote:>>>> ??? ??? ?????>> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar.>> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems based on>> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam>> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of 6th,>> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of>> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both.>>>> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is>> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third>> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the lagna,>> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance>> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra>> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making the>> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it>> does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th),>> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th).>> These steps have been described in VRA.>> Hope this helps.>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen>> ---------->> www: http://srigaruda.com>> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>>>> swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm skrev:>>> Jaya Jagannatha>>>>>> Dear Rajarshi>>> Namaste>>>>>> Will attempt this answer below:>>>>>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya". the>>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is 8th>>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the>>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a>>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of>>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the>>> difference between the source and destination house and add the>>> same from the>>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the>>> correct method?>>>>>> -Thanks in advance>>> Rajarshi>>>>>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om>>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual>>> energy emanates>>> from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the>>> tenth.) So>>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional>>> issues.Incidentally, Markandeya Muni recited the same and>>> survived Yama's snatch>>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha>>> Upapurana).>>> love,>>>>>> Swee>>>>>>>>>>> /*>> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam*>> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||*>> */>>>> ------------------------->> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Jaya JagannathaMy Dear JK,NamasteHow have you been keeping? In reply to your query below, your assumption is correct (less the vowels) if katapayadi is the issue here but not in this case and so the syllabic count in this case is two.And so, it has been said: Once you call out any of the two syllabic names, HIS name will never leave your lips. I guess I can vouch for that )love,SweeOn 16 Apr 2008, at 08:11, jk.dasgupta wrote:Dear Swee, Namaste. Krishna & Vishnu should be 3 syllable. Kri+sh+na & Vi+sh+nu Am I right? jk   On Behalf Of Swee ChanSent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:17 AMTo: Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy)Jaya JagannathaDear Visti,NamasteAgree on most points except that as far as I am told and believe, the two syllabic mantras which have the most potencies are:Shi-va, Krish-na, Vish-nu )Hence one word and the lagna becomes the source and the strengths and energies are shifted to the second house.Thanks for the exchange.love,SweeOn 14 Apr 2008, at 20:05, Visti Larsen wrote:हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Swee, Namaskar.Glad to be typing with you.I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-kriya, -bhoga and -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-astakshari.Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we first have to identify the source of the problem first, viz.: If Surya is a problem then the atma itself is suffering and therefore Shiva mantras are necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at its core an unfulfilled desire for wealth is likely to cause the problem and Vishnu will bless the native to overcome this problem. Like this we can continue.Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive their energy from the third house, a house which rules our hands and therefore the first act of karma. If malefics are causing the problem, it would be a good idea to choose mantras which have the same number of words as the house where the malefic is posited. I.e. for malefics in the fourth house, it would be advisable to choose mantras consisting of four words.If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house of Ripu. Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu mantra: om vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the number of aksharas coincide with is the house of focus and where the fruits will be felt.The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the intelligence of the Devata is experienced. So if a problem is that the native isn't thinking propperly to begin with, then mantras where the mantra-devata sits on the first house are necessary. Some excellent ones for Vishnu and Narayana are:om namo naaraayanaayavyam vyasadevaaya namahom vasudevaaya namahkliiM vasudevaaya namahYours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm skrev:Jaya JagannathaDear Visti,NamasteThank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is merely based onplanetary placement - which in this case is the 6th house. So we should belooking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that ripu. In the case ofMithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and aspects the 8th, 11thand 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case, does nothing forthe lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with its lord placement.What about the number of words? Not important?love,Swee> ??? ??? ?????> Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing to ripus.> The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana mantra> will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. This> should be started from a Sunday.> There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra during this> time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra is very> much advised.> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ----------> www: http://srigaruda.com> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> rajarshi nandy skrev:>> Dear Visti,>>>> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. Specially>> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna and>> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing vimsottari>> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some porblems as>> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what would>> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is the>> afflicting planet?>>>> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any>> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example can>> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health>> protection?>>>> -Thanks a lot in advance>> Rajarshi>>>> */Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote:>>>> ??? ??? ?????>> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar.>> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems based on>> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam>> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of 6th,>> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of>> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both.>>>> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is>> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third>> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the lagna,>> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance>> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra>> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making the>> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it>> does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th),>> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th).>> These steps have been described in VRA.>> Hope this helps.>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen>> ---------->> www: http://srigaruda.com>> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>>>> swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm skrev:>>> Jaya Jagannatha>>>>>> Dear Rajarshi>>> Namaste>>>>>> Will attempt this answer below:>>>>>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya". the>>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is 8th>>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the>>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a>>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of>>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the>>> difference between the source and destination house and add the>>> same from the>>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the>>> correct method?>>>>>> -Thanks in advance>>> Rajarshi>>>>>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om>>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual>>> energy emanates>>> from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the>>> tenth.) So>>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional>>> issues.Incidentally, Markandeya Muni recited the same and>>> survived Yama's snatch>>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha>>> Upapurana).>>> love,>>>>>> Swee>>>>>>>>>>> /*>> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam*>> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||*>> */>>>> ------------------------->> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here>> <http://in.rd./tagline_webmessenger_2/*http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008  yes i agree. I mixed up the two issues. I am ok now. Lot of work pressure now a days. jk On Behalf Of Swee ChanWednesday, April 16, 2008 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy) Jaya Jagannatha My Dear JK, Namaste How have you been keeping? In reply to your query below, your assumption is correct (less the vowels) if katapayadi is the issue here but not in this case and so the syllabic count in this case is two. And so, it has been said: Once you call out any of the two syllabic names, HIS name will never leave your lips. I guess I can vouch for that ) love, Swee On 16 Apr 2008, at 08:11, jk.dasgupta wrote: Dear Swee, Namaste. Krishna & Vishnu should be 3 syllable. Kri+sh+na & Vi+sh+nu Am I right? jk On Behalf Of Swee ChanWednesday, April 16, 2008 4:17 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy) Jaya Jagannatha Dear Visti, Namaste Agree on most points except that as far as I am told and believe, the two syllabic mantras which have the most potencies are: Shi-va, Krish-na, Vish-nu ) Hence one word and the lagna becomes the source and the strengths and energies are shifted to the second house. Thanks for the exchange. love, Swee On 14 Apr 2008, at 20:05, Visti Larsen wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Swee, Namaskar.Glad to be typing with you.I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-kriya, -bhoga and -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-astakshari.Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we first have to identify the source of the problem first, viz.: If Surya is a problem then the atma itself is suffering and therefore Shiva mantras are necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at its core an unfulfilled desire for wealth is likely to cause the problem and Vishnu will bless the native to overcome this problem. Like this we can continue.Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive their energy from the third house, a house which rules our hands and therefore the first act of karma. If malefics are causing the problem, it would be a good idea to choose mantras which have the same number of words as the house where the malefic is posited. I.e. for malefics in the fourth house, it would be advisable to choose mantras consisting of four words.If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house of Ripu. Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu mantra: om vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the number of aksharas coincide with is the house of focus and where the fruits will be felt.The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the intelligence of the Devata is experienced. So if a problem is that the native isn't thinking propperly to begin with, then mantras where the mantra-devata sits on the first house are necessary. Some excellent ones for Vishnu and Narayana are:om namo naaraayanaayavyam vyasadevaaya namahom vasudevaaya namahkliiM vasudevaaya namahYours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm skrev: Jaya JagannathaDear Visti,NamasteThank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is merely based onplanetary placement - which in this case is the 6th house. So we should belooking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that ripu. In the case ofMithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and aspects the 8th, 11thand 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case, does nothing forthe lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with its lord placement.What about the number of words? Not important?love,Swee> ??? ??? ?????> Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing to ripus.> The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana mantra> will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. This> should be started from a Sunday.> There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra during this> time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra is very> much advised.> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ----------> www: http://srigaruda.com> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> rajarshi nandy skrev:>> Dear Visti,>>>> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. Specially>> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna and>> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing vimsottari>> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some porblems as>> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what would>> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is the>> afflicting planet?>>>> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any>> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example can>> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health>> protection?>>>> -Thanks a lot in advance>> Rajarshi>>>> */Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote:>>>> ??? ??? ?????>> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar.>> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems based on>> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam>> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of 6th,>> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of>> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both.>>>> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is>> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third>> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the lagna,>> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance>> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra>> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making the>> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it>> does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th),>> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th).>> These steps have been described in VRA.>> Hope this helps.>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen>> ---------->> www: http://srigaruda.com>> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>>>> swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm skrev:>>> Jaya Jagannatha>>>>>> Dear Rajarshi>>> Namaste>>>>>> Will attempt this answer below:>>>>>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya". the>>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is 8th>>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the>>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a>>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of>>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the>>> difference between the source and destination house and add the>>> same from the>>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the>>> correct method?>>>>>> -Thanks in advance>>> Rajarshi>>>>>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om>>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual>>> energy emanates>>> from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the>>> tenth.) So>>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional>>> issues.Incidentally, Markandeya Muni recited the same and>>> survived Yama's snatch>>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha>>> Upapurana).>>> love,>>>>>> Swee>>>>>>>>>>> /*>> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam*>> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||*>> */>>>> ------------------------->> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here>> <http://in.rd./tagline_webmessenger_2/*http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Om Brihaspataye Namah Dear Members, Namaste For anyone interested in reading the Glories of Sri Krishna's Holy Names as taught by Lord Caitanya and His disciples, a good book to read is the " Art of Chanting Hare Krishna " by HH Mahanidhi Swami. It is a good book to read to add to your perspective! Enjoy! Hare Krishna! , Swee Chan <swee wrote: > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > My Dear JK, > Namaste > > How have you been keeping? In reply to your query below, your > assumption is correct (less the vowels) if katapayadi is the issue > here but not in this case and so the syllabic count in this case is two. > > And so, it has been said: Once you call out any of the two syllabic > names, HIS name will never leave your lips. I guess I can vouch for > that ) > > love, > > Swee > > > On 16 Apr 2008, at 08:11, jk.dasgupta wrote: > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > Namaste. > > > > Krishna & Vishnu should be 3 syllable. > > > > Kri+sh+na & Vi+sh+nu > > > > Am I right? > > > > jk > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Swee Chan > > Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:17 AM > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected > > Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy) > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > Namaste > > > > Agree on most points except that as far as I am told and believe, > > the two syllabic mantras which have the most potencies are: > > > > Shi-va, Krish-na, Vish-nu ) > > > > Hence one word and the lagna becomes the source and the strengths > > and energies are shifted to the second house. > > > > Thanks for the exchange. > > > > love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > On 14 Apr 2008, at 20:05, Visti Larsen wrote: > >> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ > >> Dear Swee, Namaskar. > >> Glad to be typing with you. > >> I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-kriya, - bhoga > >> and -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-astakshari. > >> Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we first > >> have to identify the source of the problem first, viz.: If Surya > >> is a problem then the atma itself is suffering and therefore Shiva > >> mantras are necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at its core an > >> unfulfilled desire for wealth is likely to cause the problem and > >> Vishnu will bless the native to overcome this problem. Like this > >> we can continue. > >> > >> Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive their energy > >> from the third house, a house which rules our hands and therefore > >> the first act of karma. If malefics are causing the problem, it > >> would be a good idea to choose mantras which have the same number > >> of words as the house where the malefic is posited. I.e. for > >> malefics in the fourth house, it would be advisable to choose > >> mantras consisting of four words. > >> > >> If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house of Ripu. > >> Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu mantra: om > >> vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the number of > >> aksharas coincide with is the house of focus and where the fruits > >> will be felt. > >> The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the > >> intelligence of the Devata is experienced. So if a problem is that > >> the native isn't thinking propperly to begin with, then mantras > >> where the mantra-devata sits on the first house are necessary. > >> Some excellent ones for Vishnu and Narayana are: > >> om namo naaraayanaaya > >> vyam vyasadevaaya namah > >> om vasudevaaya namah > >> kliiM vasudevaaya namah > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >> ---------- > >> www: http://srigaruda.com > >> @: visti > >> > >> swee skrev: > >> > >>> > >>> Jaya Jagannatha > >>> > >>> Dear Visti, > >>> Namaste > >>> > >>> Thank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is merely > >>> based on > >>> planetary placement - which in this case is the 6th house. So we > >>> should be > >>> looking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that ripu. In the > >>> case of > >>> Mithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and aspects the > >>> 8th, 11th > >>> and 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case, does > >>> nothing for > >>> the lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with its lord > >>> placement. > >>> What about the number of words? Not important? > >>> love, > >>> > >>> Swee > >>> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >>> > If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing > >>> to ripus. > >>> > The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana > >>> mantra > >>> > will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. This > >>> > should be started from a Sunday. > >>> > There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra > >>> during this > >>> > time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra > >>> is very > >>> > much advised. > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> > ---------- > >>> > www: http://srigaruda.com > >>> > @: visti > >>> > > >>> > rajarshi nandy skrev: > >>> >> Dear Visti, > >>> >> > >>> >> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. > >>> Specially > >>> >> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna > >>> and > >>> >> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing > >>> vimsottari > >>> >> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some > >>> porblems as > >>> >> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what > >>> would > >>> >> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is > >>> the > >>> >> afflicting planet? > >>> >> > >>> >> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any > >>> >> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example > >>> can > >>> >> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health > >>> >> protection? > >>> >> > >>> >> -Thanks a lot in advance > >>> >> Rajarshi > >>> >> > >>> >> */Visti Larsen <visti/* wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> ??? ??? ????? > >>> >> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >>> >> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems > >>> based on > >>> >> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha- shanibhyam > >>> >> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of > >>> 6th, > >>> >> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of > >>> >> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both. > >>> >> > >>> >> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra- bhoga is > >>> >> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third > >>> >> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the > >>> lagna, > >>> >> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance > >>> >> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra > >>> >> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making > >>> the > >>> >> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it > >>> >> does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th), > >>> >> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th). > >>> >> These steps have been described in VRA. > >>> >> Hope this helps. > >>> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> >> ---------- > >>> >> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>> >> @: visti > >>> >> > >>> >> swee skrev: > >>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Dear Rajarshi > >>> >>> Namaste > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Will attempt this answer below: > >>> >>> > >>> >>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with " om namah narayanaya " . the > >>> >>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is > >>> 8th > >>> >>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the > >>> >>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a > >>> >>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of > >>> >>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the > >>> >>> difference between the source and destination house and add the > >>> >>> same from the > >>> >>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the > >>> >>> correct method? > >>> >>> > >>> >>> -Thanks in advance > >>> >>> Rajarshi > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om > >>> >>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual > >>> >>> energy emanates > >>> >>> from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the > >>> >>> tenth.) So > >>> >>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional > >>> >>> issues.Incidentally, Markandeya Muni recited the same and > >>> >>> survived Yama's snatch > >>> >>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha > >>> >>> Upapurana). > >>> >>> love, > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Swee > >>> >>> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> /* > >>> >> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam* > >>> >> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||* > >>> >> */ > >>> >> > >>> >> ------------------------- > >>> >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > >>> Click here > >>> >> <http://in.rd./tagline_webmessenger_2/*http:// > >>> in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php>>> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 Jaya JagannathaDear Bivash,NamasteIn this material when one has to go about doing his/her social duties, the mahamantra is not the mantra to chant as taught by Sanjay ji. When you've reached the stage of retirement and you are ready to forsake your family and society should you consider the art of chanting the mahamantra.love,SweeOn 18 Apr 2008, at 08:03, Bivash Ramroop wrote:Om Brihaspataye NamahDear Members,NamasteFor anyone interested in reading the Glories of Sri Krishna's Holy Names as taught by Lord Caitanya and His disciples, a good book to read is the "Art of Chanting Hare Krishna" by HH Mahanidhi Swami.It is a good book to read to add to your perspective! Enjoy! Hare Krishna! --- In , Swee Chan <swee wrote:>> > Jaya Jagannatha> > My Dear JK,> Namaste> > How have you been keeping? In reply to your query below, your > assumption is correct (less the vowels) if katapayadi is the issue > here but not in this case and so the syllabic count in this case is two.> > And so, it has been said: Once you call out any of the two syllabic > names, HIS name will never leave your lips. I guess I can vouch for > that )> > love,> > Swee> > > On 16 Apr 2008, at 08:11, jk.dasgupta wrote:> > >> > Dear Swee,> >> > Namaste.> >> > Krishna & Vishnu should be 3 syllable.> >> > Kri+sh+na & Vi+sh+nu> >> > Am I right?> >> > jk> >> >> > > >   > > On Behalf Of Swee Chan> > Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:17 AM> > To: > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected > > Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy)> >> > Jaya Jagannatha> >> >> > Dear Visti,> > Namaste> >> > Agree on most points except that as far as I am told and believe, > > the two syllabic mantras which have the most potencies are:> >> > Shi-va, Krish-na, Vish-nu )> >> > Hence one word and the lagna becomes the source and the strengths > > and energies are shifted to the second house.> >> > Thanks for the exchange.> >> > love,> >> > Swee> >> >> > On 14 Apr 2008, at 20:05, Visti Larsen wrote:> >> à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥ƒà ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£> >> Dear Swee, Namaskar.> >> Glad to be typing with you.> >> I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-kriya, -bhoga > >> and -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-astakshari.> >> Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we first > >> have to identify the source of the problem first, viz.: If Surya > >> is a problem then the atma itself is suffering and therefore Shiva > >> mantras are necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at its core an > >> unfulfilled desire for wealth is likely to cause the problem and > >> Vishnu will bless the native to overcome this problem. Like this > >> we can continue.> >>> >> Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive their energy > >> from the third house, a house which rules our hands and therefore > >> the first act of karma. If malefics are causing the problem, it > >> would be a good idea to choose mantras which have the same number > >> of words as the house where the malefic is posited. I.e. for > >> malefics in the fourth house, it would be advisable to choose > >> mantras consisting of four words.> >>> >> If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house of Ripu. > >> Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu mantra: om > >> vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the number of > >> aksharas coincide with is the house of focus and where the fruits > >> will be felt.> >> The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the > >> intelligence of the Devata is experienced. So if a problem is that > >> the native isn't thinking propperly to begin with, then mantras > >> where the mantra-devata sits on the first house are necessary. > >> Some excellent ones for Vishnu and Narayana are:> >> om namo naaraayanaaya> >> vyam vyasadevaaya namah> >> om vasudevaaya namah> >> kliiM vasudevaaya namah> >>> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >> ----------> >> www: http://srigaruda.com> >> @: visti >>> >> swee skrev:> >>> >>>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha> >>>> >>> Dear Visti,> >>> Namaste> >>>> >>> Thank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is merely > >>> based on> >>> planetary placement - which in this case is the 6th house. So we > >>> should be> >>> looking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that ripu. In the > >>> case of> >>> Mithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and aspects the > >>> 8th, 11th> >>> and 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case, does > >>> nothing for> >>> the lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with its lord > >>> placement.> >>> What about the number of words? Not important?> >>> love,> >>>> >>> Swee> >>>> >>> > ??? ??? ?????> >>> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> >>> > If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing > >>> to ripus.> >>> > The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana > >>> mantra> >>> > will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. This> >>> > should be started from a Sunday.> >>> > There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra > >>> during this> >>> > time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra > >>> is very> >>> > much advised.> >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>> > ----------> >>> > www: http://srigaruda.com> >>> > @: visti >>> >> >>> > rajarshi nandy skrev:> >>> >> Dear Visti,> >>> >>> >>> >> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. > >>> Specially> >>> >> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna > >>> and> >>> >> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing > >>> vimsottari> >>> >> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some > >>> porblems as> >>> >> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what > >>> would> >>> >> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is > >>> the> >>> >> afflicting planet?> >>> >>> >>> >> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any> >>> >> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example > >>> can> >>> >> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health> >>> >> protection?> >>> >>> >>> >> -Thanks a lot in advance> >>> >> Rajarshi> >>> >>> >>> >> */Visti Larsen <visti/* wrote:> >>> >>> >>> >> ??? ??? ?????> >>> >> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar.> >>> >> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems > >>> based on> >>> >> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam> >>> >> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of > >>> 6th,> >>> >> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of> >>> >> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both.> >>> >>> >>> >> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is> >>> >> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third> >>> >> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the > >>> lagna,> >>> >> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance> >>> >> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra> >>> >> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making > >>> the> >>> >> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it> >>> >> does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th),> >>> >> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th).> >>> >> These steps have been described in VRA.> >>> >> Hope this helps.> >>> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>> >> ----------> >>> >> www: http://srigaruda.com> >>> >> @: visti >>> >>> >>> >> swee skrev:> >>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha> >>> >>>> >>> >>> Dear Rajarshi> >>> >>> Namaste> >>> >>>> >>> >>> Will attempt this answer below:> >>> >>>> >>> >>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya". the> >>> >>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is > >>> 8th> >>> >>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the> >>> >>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a> >>> >>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of> >>> >>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the> >>> >>> difference between the source and destination house and add the> >>> >>> same from the> >>> >>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the> >>> >>> correct method?> >>> >>>> >>> >>> -Thanks in advance> >>> >>> Rajarshi> >>> >>>> >>> >>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om> >>> >>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual> >>> >>> energy emanates> >>> >>> from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the> >>> >>> tenth.) So> >>> >>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional> >>> >>> issues.Incidentally, Markandeya Muni recited the same and> >>> >>> survived Yama's snatch> >>> >>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha> >>> >>> Upapurana).> >>> >>> love,> >>> >>>> >>> >>> Swee> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> /*> >>> >> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam*> >>> >> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||*> >>> >> */> >>> >>> >>> >> -------------------------> >>> >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > >>> Click here> >>> >> <http://in.rd./tagline_webmessenger_2/*http:// > >>> in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Swee  , Namaskar No, this mantra should be recited on any stage. It has very strong effect and for this corageous ones who are on the stage of karmayoga even in grhasta asrama and engaged in 'material' duties this is the strongest weapon in this kali age. We should not be lazy to recite kaliyuga mantra as this is the risky proposition. At least thats the idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His followers. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Swee Chan napisaÅ‚(a): Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bivash, Namaste In this material when one has to go about doing his/her social duties, the mahamantra is not the mantra to chant as taught by Sanjay ji. When you've reached the stage of retirement and you are ready to forsake your family and society should you consider the art of chanting the mahamantra. love, Swee On 18 Apr 2008, at 08:03, Bivash Ramroop wrote: Om Brihaspataye Namah Dear Members, Namaste For anyone interested in reading the Glories of Sri Krishna's Holy Names as taught by Lord Caitanya and His disciples, a good book to read is the "Art of Chanting Hare Krishna" by HH Mahanidhi Swami. It is a good book to read to add to your perspective! Enjoy! Hare Krishna! --- In @ . com, Swee Chan <swee wrote: > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > My Dear JK, > Namaste > > How have you been keeping? In reply to your query below, your > assumption is correct (less the vowels) if katapayadi is the issue > here but not in this case and so the syllabic count in this case is two. > > And so, it has been said: Once you call out any of the two syllabic > names, HIS name will never leave your lips. I guess I can vouch for > that ) > > love, > > Swee > > > On 16 Apr 2008, at 08:11, jk.dasgupta wrote: > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > Namaste. > > > > Krishna & Vishnu should be 3 syllable. > > > > Kri+sh+na & Vi+sh+nu > > > > Am I right? > > > > jk > > > > > > > >  @ . com > > [@ . com]On Behalf Of Swee Chan > > Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:17 AM > > To: @ . com > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected > > Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy) > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > Namaste > > > > Agree on most points except that as far as I am told and believe, > > the two syllabic mantras which have the most potencies are: > > > > Shi-va, Krish-na, Vish-nu ) > > > > Hence one word and the lagna becomes the source and the strengths > > and energies are shifted to the second house. > > > > Thanks for the exchange. > > > > love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > On 14 Apr 2008, at 20:05, Visti Larsen wrote: > >> à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥ƒà ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£ > >> Dear Swee, Namaskar. > >> Glad to be typing with you. > >> I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-kriya, - bhoga > >> and -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-astakshari. > >> Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we first > >> have to identify the source of the problem first, viz.: If Surya > >> is a problem then the atma itself is suffering and therefore Shiva > >> mantras are necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at its core an > >> unfulfilled desire for wealth is likely to cause the problem and > >> Vishnu will bless the native to overcome this problem. Like this > >> we can continue. > >> > >> Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive their energy > >> from the third house, a house which rules our hands and therefore > >> the first act of karma. If malefics are causing the problem, it > >> would be a good idea to choose mantras which have the same number > >> of words as the house where the malefic is posited. I.e. for > >> malefics in the fourth house, it would be advisable to choose > >> mantras consisting of four words. > >> > >> If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house of Ripu. > >> Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu mantra: om > >> vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the number of > >> aksharas coincide with is the house of focus and where the fruits > >> will be felt. > >> The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the > >> intelligence of the Devata is experienced. So if a problem is that > >> the native isn't thinking propperly to begin with, then mantras > >> where the mantra-devata sits on the first house are necessary. > >> Some excellent ones for Vishnu and Narayana are: > >> om namo naaraayanaaya > >> vyam vyasadevaaya namah > >> om vasudevaaya namah > >> kliiM vasudevaaya namah > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > >> @: visti > >> > >> swee skrev: > >> > >>> > >>> Jaya Jagannatha > >>> > >>> Dear Visti, > >>> Namaste > >>> > >>> Thank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is merely > >>> based on > >>> planetary placement - which in this case is the 6th house. So we > >>> should be > >>> looking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that ripu. In the > >>> case of > >>> Mithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and aspects the > >>> 8th, 11th > >>> and 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case, does > >>> nothing for > >>> the lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with its lord > >>> placement. > >>> What about the number of words? Not important? > >>> love, > >>> > >>> Swee > >>> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >>> > If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing > >>> to ripus. > >>> > The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana > >>> mantra > >>> > will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. This > >>> > should be started from a Sunday. > >>> > There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra > >>> during this > >>> > time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra > >>> is very > >>> > much advised. > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com > >>> > @: visti > >>> > > >>> > rajarshi nandy skrev: > >>> >> Dear Visti, > >>> >> > >>> >> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. > >>> Specially > >>> >> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna > >>> and > >>> >> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing > >>> vimsottari > >>> >> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some > >>> porblems as > >>> >> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what > >>> would > >>> >> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is > >>> the > >>> >> afflicting planet? > >>> >> > >>> >> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any > >>> >> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example > >>> can > >>> >> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health > >>> >> protection? > >>> >> > >>> >> -Thanks a lot in advance > >>> >> Rajarshi > >>> >> > >>> >> */Visti Larsen <visti/ * wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> ??? ??? ????? > >>> >> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >>> >> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems > >>> based on > >>> >> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha- shanibhyam > >>> >> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of > >>> 6th, > >>> >> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of > >>> >> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both. > >>> >> > >>> >> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra- bhoga is > >>> >> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third > >>> >> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the > >>> lagna, > >>> >> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance > >>> >> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra > >>> >> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making > >>> the > >>> >> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it > >>> >> does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th), > >>> >> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th). > >>> >> These steps have been described in VRA. > >>> >> Hope this helps. > >>> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>> >> www: http://srigaruda. com > >>> >> @: visti > >>> >> > >>> >> swee skrev: > >>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Dear Rajarshi > >>> >>> Namaste > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Will attempt this answer below: > >>> >>> > >>> >>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya". the > >>> >>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is > >>> 8th > >>> >>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the > >>> >>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a > >>> >>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of > >>> >>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the > >>> >>> difference between the source and destination house and add the > >>> >>> same from the > >>> >>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the > >>> >>> correct method? > >>> >>> > >>> >>> -Thanks in advance > >>> >>> Rajarshi > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om > >>> >>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual > >>> >>> energy emanates > >>> >>> from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the > >>> >>> tenth.) So > >>> >>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional > >>> >>> issues.Incidentally , Markandeya Muni recited the same and > >>> >>> survived Yama's snatch > >>> >>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha > >>> >>> Upapurana). > >>> >>> love, > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Swee > >>> >>> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> /* > >>> >> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam* > >>> >> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||* > >>> >> */ > >>> >> > >>> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > >>> >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > >>> Click here > >>> >> <http://in.rd. / tagline_webmesse nger_2/*http: // > >>> in.messenger. / webmessengerprom o.php>>> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Hi I believe Rafal is right, there really is little alternative than the mahamantra, when someone of the calibre of Mahaprabhu says this I guess we can safely chant this mahamantra.. Also it depends on once perspective, of how important spiritual realization is compared to other material benifits of life.. so anyone under any circumstance should ideally keep chanting it rather than postoning it for some future date believing it would be more reasonable and convinient.. to go into the higher layers of spirituality is a huge huge huge task and very difficult path... not one minute should be lost.. because only He/She alone knows how many thousands of more birth will be needed to be granted access to the refined and beautiful realms.. So yes keep chanting the mahamantra.. as hard and as best as one can for the mind will throw everyth possible obstacle it can.. and wait for anugraha... for without anughara not even million births will suffice to reach Him/Her -Regards RajarshiRafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Swee  , NamaskarNo, this mantra should be recited on any stage. It has very strong effect and for this corageous ones who are on the stage of karmayoga even in grhasta asrama and engaged in 'material' duties this is the strongest weapon in this kali age. We should not be lazy to recite kaliyuga mantra as this is the risky proposition. At least thats the idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His followers.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comSwee Chan napisaÅ‚(a): Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bivash, Namaste In this material when one has to go about doing his/her social duties, the mahamantra is not the mantra to chant as taught by Sanjay ji. When you've reached the stage of retirement and you are ready to forsake your family and society should you consider the art of chanting the mahamantra. love, Swee On 18 Apr 2008, at 08:03, Bivash Ramroop wrote: Om Brihaspataye NamahDear Members,NamasteFor anyone interested in reading the Glories of Sri Krishna's Holy Names as taught by Lord Caitanya and His disciples, a good book to read is the "Art of Chanting Hare Krishna" by HH Mahanidhi Swami.It is a good book to read to add to your perspective! Enjoy! Hare Krishna! --- In , Swee Chan <swee wrote:>> > Jaya Jagannatha> > My Dear JK,> Namaste> > How have you been keeping? In reply to your query below, your > assumption is correct (less the vowels) if katapayadi is the issue > here but not in this case and so the syllabic count in this case is two.> > And so, it has been said: Once you call out any of the two syllabic > names, HIS name will never leave your lips. I guess I can vouch for > that )> > love,> > Swee> > > On 16 Apr 2008, at 08:11, jk.dasgupta wrote:> > >> > Dear Swee,> >> > Namaste.> >> > Krishna & Vishnu should be 3 syllable.> >> > Kri+sh+na & Vi+sh+nu> >> > Am I right?> >> > jk> >> >> > > >   > > []On Behalf Of Swee Chan> > Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:17 AM> > To: > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected > > Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy)> >> > Jaya Jagannatha> >> >> > Dear Visti,> > Namaste> >> > Agree on most points except that as far as I am told and believe, > > the two syllabic mantras which have the most potencies are:> >> > Shi-va, Krish-na, Vish-nu )> >> > Hence one word and the lagna becomes the source and the strengths > > and energies are shifted to the second house.> >> > Thanks for the exchange.> >> > love,> >> > Swee> >> >> > On 14 Apr 2008, at 20:05, Visti Larsen wrote:> >> à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥ƒà ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£> >> Dear Swee, Namaskar.> >> Glad to be typing with you.> >> I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-kriya, -bhoga > >> and -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-astakshari.> >> Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we first > >> have to identify the source of the problem first, viz.: If Surya > >> is a problem then the atma itself is suffering and therefore Shiva > >> mantras are necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at its core an > >> unfulfilled desire for wealth is likely to cause the problem and > >> Vishnu will bless the native to overcome this problem. Like this > >> we can continue.> >>> >> Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive their energy > >> from the third house, a house which rules our hands and therefore > >> the first act of karma. If malefics are causing the problem, it > >> would be a good idea to choose mantras which have the same number > >> of words as the house where the malefic is posited. I.e. for > >> malefics in the fourth house, it would be advisable to choose > >> mantras consisting of four words.> >>> >> If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house of Ripu. > >> Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu mantra: om > >> vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the number of > >> aksharas coincide with is the house of focus and where the fruits > >> will be felt.> >> The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the > >> intelligence of the Devata is experienced. So if a problem is that > >> the native isn't thinking propperly to begin with, then mantras > >> where the mantra-devata sits on the first house are necessary. > >> Some excellent ones for Vishnu and Narayana are:> >> om namo naaraayanaaya> >> vyam vyasadevaaya namah> >> om vasudevaaya namah> >> kliiM vasudevaaya namah> >>> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> >> www: http://srigaruda. com> >> @: visti >>> >> swee skrev:> >>> >>>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha> >>>> >>> Dear Visti,> >>> Namaste> >>>> >>> Thank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is merely > >>> based on> >>> planetary placement - which in this case is the 6th house. So we > >>> should be> >>> looking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that ripu. In the > >>> case of> >>> Mithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and aspects the > >>> 8th, 11th> >>> and 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case, does > >>> nothing for> >>> the lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with its lord > >>> placement.> >>> What about the number of words? Not important?> >>> love,> >>>> >>> Swee> >>>> >>> > ??? ??? ?????> >>> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> >>> > If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing > >>> to ripus.> >>> > The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana > >>> mantra> >>> > will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. This> >>> > should be started from a Sunday.> >>> > There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra > >>> during this> >>> > time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra > >>> is very> >>> > much advised.> >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com> >>> > @: visti >>> >> >>> > rajarshi nandy skrev:> >>> >> Dear Visti,> >>> >>> >>> >> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. > >>> Specially> >>> >> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna > >>> and> >>> >> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing > >>> vimsottari> >>> >> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some > >>> porblems as> >>> >> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what > >>> would> >>> >> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is > >>> the> >>> >> afflicting planet?> >>> >>> >>> >> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any> >>> >> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example > >>> can> >>> >> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health> >>> >> protection?> >>> >>> >>> >> -Thanks a lot in advance> >>> >> Rajarshi> >>> >>> >>> >> */Visti Larsen <visti/ * wrote:> >>> >>> >>> >> ??? ??? ?????> >>> >> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar.> >>> >> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems > >>> based on> >>> >> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam> >>> >> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of > >>> 6th,> >>> >> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of> >>> >> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both.> >>> >>> >>> >> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is> >>> >> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third> >>> >> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the > >>> lagna,> >>> >> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance> >>> >> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra> >>> >> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making > >>> the> >>> >> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it> >>> >> does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th),> >>> >> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th).> >>> >> These steps have been described in VRA.> >>> >> Hope this helps.> >>> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> >>> >> www: http://srigaruda. com> >>> >> @: visti >>> >>> >>> >> swee skrev:> >>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha> >>> >>>> >>> >>> Dear Rajarshi> >>> >>> Namaste> >>> >>>> >>> >>> Will attempt this answer below:> >>> >>>> >>> >>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya". the> >>> >>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is > >>> 8th> >>> >>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the> >>> >>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a> >>> >>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of> >>> >>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the> >>> >>> difference between the source and destination house and add the> >>> >>> same from the> >>> >>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the> >>> >>> correct method?> >>> >>>> >>> >>> -Thanks in advance> >>> >>> Rajarshi> >>> >>>> >>> >>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om> >>> >>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual> >>> >>> energy emanates> >>> >>> from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the> >>> >>> tenth.) So> >>> >>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional> >>> >>> issues.Incidentally , Markandeya Muni recited the same and> >>> >>> survived Yama's snatch> >>> >>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha> >>> >>> Upapurana).> >>> >>> love,> >>> >>>> >>> >>> Swee> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> /*> >>> >> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam*> >>> >> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||*> >>> >> */> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> >>> >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > >>> Click here> >>> >> <http://in.rd. / tagline_webmesse nger_2/*http: // > >>> in.messenger. / webmessengerprom o.php>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Jaya JagannathaDear Rafal,NamasteAt least thats the idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His followers.Thank you, exactly my expression, though I wonder why Bivash should suggest this when the original content of the mail has nothing to do with this.love,SweeOn 19 Apr 2008, at 19:17, Rafal Gendarz wrote:kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Swee  , NamaskarNo, this mantra should be recited on any stage. It has very strong effect and for this corageous ones who are on the stage of karmayoga even in grhasta asrama and engaged in 'material' duties this is the strongest weapon in this kali age. We should not be lazy to recite kaliyuga mantra as this is the risky proposition. At least thats the idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His followers.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comSwee Chan napisaÅ‚(a):Jaya JagannathaDear Bivash,NamasteIn this material when one has to go about doing his/her social duties, the mahamantra is not the mantra to chant as taught by Sanjay ji. When you've reached the stage of retirement and you are ready to forsake your family and society should you consider the art of chanting the mahamantra.love,SweeOn 18 Apr 2008, at 08:03, Bivash Ramroop wrote:Om Brihaspataye NamahDear Members,NamasteFor anyone interested in reading the Glories of Sri Krishna's Holy Names as taught by Lord Caitanya and His disciples, a good book to read is the "Art of Chanting Hare Krishna" by HH Mahanidhi Swami.It is a good book to read to add to your perspective! Enjoy! Hare Krishna! --- In , Swee Chan <swee wrote:>> > Jaya Jagannatha> > My Dear JK,> Namaste> > How have you been keeping? In reply to your query below, your > assumption is correct (less the vowels) if katapayadi is the issue > here but not in this case and so the syllabic count in this case is two.> > And so, it has been said: Once you call out any of the two syllabic > names, HIS name will never leave your lips. I guess I can vouch for > that )> > love,> > Swee> > > On 16 Apr 2008, at 08:11, jk.dasgupta wrote:> > >> > Dear Swee,> >> > Namaste.> >> > Krishna & Vishnu should be 3 syllable.> >> > Kri+sh+na & Vi+sh+nu> >> > Am I right?> >> > jk> >> >> > > >   > > []On Behalf Of Swee Chan> > Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:17 AM> > To: > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected > > Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy)> >> > Jaya Jagannatha> >> >> > Dear Visti,> > Namaste> >> > Agree on most points except that as far as I am told and believe, > > the two syllabic mantras which have the most potencies are:> >> > Shi-va, Krish-na, Vish-nu )> >> > Hence one word and the lagna becomes the source and the strengths > > and energies are shifted to the second house.> >> > Thanks for the exchange.> >> > love,> >> > Swee> >> >> > On 14 Apr 2008, at 20:05, Visti Larsen wrote:> >> à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥ƒà ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£> >> Dear Swee, Namaskar.> >> Glad to be typing with you.> >> I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-kriya, -bhoga > >> and -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-astakshari.> >> Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we first > >> have to identify the source of the problem first, viz.: If Surya > >> is a problem then the atma itself is suffering and therefore Shiva > >> mantras are necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at its core an > >> unfulfilled desire for wealth is likely to cause the problem and > >> Vishnu will bless the native to overcome this problem. Like this > >> we can continue.> >>> >> Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive their energy > >> from the third house, a house which rules our hands and therefore > >> the first act of karma. If malefics are causing the problem, it > >> would be a good idea to choose mantras which have the same number > >> of words as the house where the malefic is posited. I.e. for > >> malefics in the fourth house, it would be advisable to choose > >> mantras consisting of four words.> >>> >> If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house of Ripu. > >> Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu mantra: om > >> vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the number of > >> aksharas coincide with is the house of focus and where the fruits > >> will be felt.> >> The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the > >> intelligence of the Devata is experienced. So if a problem is that > >> the native isn't thinking propperly to begin with, then mantras > >> where the mantra-devata sits on the first house are necessary. > >> Some excellent ones for Vishnu and Narayana are:> >> om namo naaraayanaaya> >> vyam vyasadevaaya namah> >> om vasudevaaya namah> >> kliiM vasudevaaya namah> >>> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> >> www: http://srigaruda. com> >> @: visti >>> >> swee skrev:> >>> >>>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha> >>>> >>> Dear Visti,> >>> Namaste> >>>> >>> Thank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is merely > >>> based on> >>> planetary placement - which in this case is the 6th house. So we > >>> should be> >>> looking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that ripu. In the > >>> case of> >>> Mithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and aspects the > >>> 8th, 11th> >>> and 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case, does > >>> nothing for> >>> the lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with its lord > >>> placement.> >>> What about the number of words? Not important?> >>> love,> >>>> >>> Swee> >>>> >>> > ??? ??? ?????> >>> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> >>> > If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing > >>> to ripus.> >>> > The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana > >>> mantra> >>> > will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. This> >>> > should be started from a Sunday.> >>> > There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra > >>> during this> >>> > time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra > >>> is very> >>> > much advised.> >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com> >>> > @: visti >>> >> >>> > rajarshi nandy skrev:> >>> >> Dear Visti,> >>> >>> >>> >> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. > >>> Specially> >>> >> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna > >>> and> >>> >> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing > >>> vimsottari> >>> >> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some > >>> porblems as> >>> >> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what > >>> would> >>> >> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is > >>> the> >>> >> afflicting planet?> >>> >>> >>> >> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any> >>> >> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example > >>> can> >>> >> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health> >>> >> protection?> >>> >>> >>> >> -Thanks a lot in advance> >>> >> Rajarshi> >>> >>> >>> >> */Visti Larsen <visti/ * wrote:> >>> >>> >>> >> ??? ??? ?????> >>> >> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar.> >>> >> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems > >>> based on> >>> >> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-shanibhyam> >>> >> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of > >>> 6th,> >>> >> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of> >>> >> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both.> >>> >>> >>> >> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-bhoga is> >>> >> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third> >>> >> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the > >>> lagna,> >>> >> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance> >>> >> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra> >>> >> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making > >>> the> >>> >> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it> >>> >> does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th),> >>> >> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th).> >>> >> These steps have been described in VRA.> >>> >> Hope this helps.> >>> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> >>> >> www: http://srigaruda. com> >>> >> @: visti >>> >>> >>> >> swee skrev:> >>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha> >>> >>>> >>> >>> Dear Rajarshi> >>> >>> Namaste> >>> >>>> >>> >>> Will attempt this answer below:> >>> >>>> >>> >>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya". the> >>> >>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is > >>> 8th> >>> >>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the> >>> >>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a> >>> >>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of> >>> >>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the> >>> >>> difference between the source and destination house and add the> >>> >>> same from the> >>> >>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the> >>> >>> correct method?> >>> >>>> >>> >>> -Thanks in advance> >>> >>> Rajarshi> >>> >>>> >>> >>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om> >>> >>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual> >>> >>> energy emanates> >>> >>> from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the> >>> >>> tenth.) So> >>> >>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional> >>> >>> issues.Incidentally , Markandeya Muni recited the same and> >>> >>> survived Yama's snatch> >>> >>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha> >>> >>> Upapurana).> >>> >>> love,> >>> >>>> >>> >>> Swee> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> /*> >>> >> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam*> >>> >> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||*> >>> >> */> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> >>> >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > >>> Click here> >>> >> <http://in.rd. / tagline_webmesse nger_2/*http: // > >>> in.messenger. / webmessengerprom o.php>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Bivash , Namaskar I think this was dictated by his inner feeling to help.Some inner voice of mission. This is often early enthusiasm which force one to spread the Guru message to everyone. Motive was innocent, but the tactic is far from gentle. Still its auspicious. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Swee Chan napisaÅ‚(a): Jaya Jagannatha Dear Rafal, Namaste At least thats the idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His followers. Thank you, exactly my expression, though I wonder why Bivash should suggest this when the original content of the mail has nothing to do with this. love, Swee On 19 Apr 2008, at 19:17, Rafal Gendarz wrote: kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Swee  , Namaskar No, this mantra should be recited on any stage. It has very strong effect and for this corageous ones who are on the stage of karmayoga even in grhasta asrama and engaged in 'material' duties this is the strongest weapon in this kali age. We should not be lazy to recite kaliyuga mantra as this is the risky proposition. At least thats the idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His followers. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com  / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Swee Chan napisaÅ‚(a): Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bivash, Namaste In this material when one has to go about doing his/her social duties, the mahamantra is not the mantra to chant as taught by Sanjay ji. When you've reached the stage of retirement and you are ready to forsake your family and society should you consider the art of chanting the mahamantra. love, Swee On 18 Apr 2008, at 08:03, Bivash Ramroop wrote: Om Brihaspataye Namah Dear Members, Namaste For anyone interested in reading the Glories of Sri Krishna's Holy Names as taught by Lord Caitanya and His disciples, a good book to read is the "Art of Chanting Hare Krishna" by HH Mahanidhi Swami. It is a good book to read to add to your perspective! Enjoy! Hare Krishna! --- In @ . com, Swee Chan <swee wrote: > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > My Dear JK, > Namaste > > How have you been keeping? In reply to your query below, your > assumption is correct (less the vowels) if katapayadi is the issue > here but not in this case and so the syllabic count in this case is two. > > And so, it has been said: Once you call out any of the two syllabic > names, HIS name will never leave your lips. I guess I can vouch for > that ) > > love, > > Swee > > > On 16 Apr 2008, at 08:11, jk.dasgupta wrote: > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > Namaste. > > > > Krishna & Vishnu should be 3 syllable. > > > > Kri+sh+na & Vi+sh+nu > > > > Am I right? > > > > jk > > > > > > > >  @ . com > > [@ . com]On Behalf Of Swee Chan > > Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:17 AM > > To: @ . com > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected > > Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy) > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > Namaste > > > > Agree on most points except that as far as I am told and believe, > > the two syllabic mantras which have the most potencies are: > > > > Shi-va, Krish-na, Vish-nu ) > > > > Hence one word and the lagna becomes the source and the strengths > > and energies are shifted to the second house. > > > > Thanks for the exchange. > > > > love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > On 14 Apr 2008, at 20:05, Visti Larsen wrote: > >> à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥ƒà ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£ > >> Dear Swee, Namaskar. > >> Glad to be typing with you. > >> I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-kriya, - bhoga > >> and -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-astakshari. > >> Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we first > >> have to identify the source of the problem first, viz.: If Surya > >> is a problem then the atma itself is suffering and therefore Shiva > >> mantras are necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at its core an > >> unfulfilled desire for wealth is likely to cause the problem and > >> Vishnu will bless the native to overcome this problem. Like this > >> we can continue. > >> > >> Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive their energy > >> from the third house, a house which rules our hands and therefore > >> the first act of karma. If malefics are causing the problem, it > >> would be a good idea to choose mantras which have the same number > >> of words as the house where the malefic is posited. I.e. for > >> malefics in the fourth house, it would be advisable to choose > >> mantras consisting of four words. > >> > >> If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house of Ripu. > >> Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu mantra: om > >> vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the number of > >> aksharas coincide with is the house of focus and where the fruits > >> will be felt. > >> The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the > >> intelligence of the Devata is experienced. So if a problem is that > >> the native isn't thinking propperly to begin with, then mantras > >> where the mantra-devata sits on the first house are necessary. > >> Some excellent ones for Vishnu and Narayana are: > >> om namo naaraayanaaya > >> vyam vyasadevaaya namah > >> om vasudevaaya namah > >> kliiM vasudevaaya namah > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > >> @: visti > >> > >> swee skrev: > >> > >>> > >>> Jaya Jagannatha > >>> > >>> Dear Visti, > >>> Namaste > >>> > >>> Thank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is merely > >>> based on > >>> planetary placement - which in this case is the 6th house. So we > >>> should be > >>> looking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that ripu. In the > >>> case of > >>> Mithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and aspects the > >>> 8th, 11th > >>> and 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case, does > >>> nothing for > >>> the lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with its lord > >>> placement. > >>> What about the number of words? Not important? > >>> love, > >>> > >>> Swee > >>> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >>> > If a person has planets in the sixth then they are succombing > >>> to ripus. > >>> > The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the Narayana > >>> mantra > >>> > will keep the person in check and help them during this dasa. This > >>> > should be started from a Sunday. > >>> > There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra > >>> during this > >>> > time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana mantra > >>> is very > >>> > much advised. > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com > >>> > @: visti > >>> > > >>> > rajarshi nandy skrev: > >>> >> Dear Visti, > >>> >> > >>> >> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear now. > >>> Specially > >>> >> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun lagna > >>> and > >>> >> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing > >>> vimsottari > >>> >> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some > >>> porblems as > >>> >> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And what > >>> would > >>> >> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh is > >>> the > >>> >> afflicting planet? > >>> >> > >>> >> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to chant any > >>> >> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For example > >>> can > >>> >> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health > >>> >> protection? > >>> >> > >>> >> -Thanks a lot in advance > >>> >> Rajarshi > >>> >> > >>> >> */Visti Larsen <visti/ * wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> ??? ??? ????? > >>> >> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >>> >> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems > >>> based on > >>> >> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha- shanibhyam > >>> >> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems of > >>> 6th, > >>> >> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship of > >>> >> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both. > >>> >> > >>> >> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra- bhoga is > >>> >> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the third > >>> >> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on the > >>> lagna, > >>> >> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same distance > >>> >> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this mantra > >>> >> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava making > >>> the > >>> >> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. And it > >>> >> does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th), > >>> >> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th). > >>> >> These steps have been described in VRA. > >>> >> Hope this helps. > >>> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>> >> www: http://srigaruda. com > >>> >> @: visti > >>> >> > >>> >> swee skrev: > >>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Dear Rajarshi > >>> >>> Namaste > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Will attempt this answer below: > >>> >>> > >>> >>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya". the > >>> >>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy is > >>> 8th > >>> >>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th from the > >>> >>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the effect of a > >>> >>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing the number of > >>> >>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the > >>> >>> difference between the source and destination house and add the > >>> >>> same from the > >>> >>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So which is the > >>> >>> correct method? > >>> >>> > >>> >>> -Thanks in advance > >>> >>> Rajarshi > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd house. Om > >>> >>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the spiritual > >>> >>> energy emanates > >>> >>> from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at the > >>> >>> tenth.) So > >>> >>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional > >>> >>> issues.Incidentally , Markandeya Muni recited the same and > >>> >>> survived Yama's snatch > >>> >>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha > >>> >>> Upapurana). > >>> >>> love, > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Swee > >>> >>> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> /* > >>> >> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam* > >>> >> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||* > >>> >> */ > >>> >> > >>> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > >>> >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > >>> Click here > >>> >> <http://in.rd. / tagline_webmesse nger_2/*http: // > >>> in.messenger. / webmessengerprom o.php>>> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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