To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy)

[Guest guest]

Om Brihaspataye Namah

 

Dear Rafalji,

Namaste

 

My apologies... I got a bit carried away.

I only mentioned the book to add to people's perspective. I respect

everyone's spiritual path.

 

Thankyou for your kind words.

 

Hare Krishna

Bivash

 

, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> Dear Bivash , Namaskar

>

> I think this was dictated by his inner feeling to help.Some inner

voice

> of mission. This is often early enthusiasm which force one to

spread the

> Guru message to everyone.

>

> Motive was innocent, but the tactic is far from gentle. Still its

> auspicious.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal

>

>

> Swee Chan napisał(a):

> >

> >

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> >

> > Dear Rafal,

> > Namaste

> >

> > At least thats the idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His

followers.

> >

> > Thank you, exactly my expression, though I wonder why Bivash

should

> > suggest this when the original content of the mail has nothing

to do

> > with this.

> >

> > love,

> >

> > Swee

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On 19 Apr 2008, at 19:17, Rafal Gendarz wrote:

> >>

> >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> >> Dear Swee , Namaskar

> >>

> >> No, this mantra should be recited on any stage. It has very

strong

> >> effect and for this corageous ones who are on the stage of

karmayoga

> >> even in grhasta asrama and engaged in 'material' duties this is

the

> >> strongest weapon in this kali age. We should not be lazy to

recite

> >> kaliyuga mantra as this is the risky proposition. At least

thats the

> >> idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His followers.

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> >> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com> /

> >> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Swee Chan napisał(a):

> >>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Jaya Jagannatha

> >>>

> >>> Dear Bivash,

> >>> Namaste

> >>>

> >>> In this material when one has to go about doing his/her social

> >>> duties, the mahamantra is not the mantra to chant as taught by

> >>> Sanjay ji. When you've reached the stage of retirement and you

are

> >>> ready to forsake your family and society should you consider

the art

> >>> of chanting the mahamantra.

> >>>

> >>> love,

> >>>

> >>> Swee

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> On 18 Apr 2008, at 08:03, Bivash Ramroop wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>> Om Brihaspataye Namah

> >>>>

> >>>> Dear Members,

> >>>> Namaste

> >>>>

> >>>> For anyone interested in reading the Glories of Sri Krishna's

Holy

> >>>> Names as taught by Lord Caitanya and His disciples, a good

book to

> >>>> read is the " Art of Chanting Hare Krishna " by HH Mahanidhi

Swami.

> >>>>

> >>>> It is a good book to read to add to your perspective! Enjoy!

> >>>>

> >>>> Hare Krishna!

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> <%40>, Swee Chan <swee@>

> >>>> <swee@> wrote:

> >>>> >

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >>>> >

> >>>> > My Dear JK,

> >>>> > Namaste

> >>>> >

> >>>> > How have you been keeping? In reply to your query below,

your

> >>>> > assumption is correct (less the vowels) if katapayadi is

the

> >>>> issue

> >>>> > here but not in this case and so the syllabic count in this

case

> >>>> is two.

> >>>> >

> >>>> > And so, it has been said: Once you call out any of the two

> >>>> syllabic

> >>>> > names, HIS name will never leave your lips. I guess I can

vouch

> >>>> for

> >>>> > that )

> >>>> >

> >>>> > love,

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Swee

> >>>> >

> >>>> >

> >>>> > On 16 Apr 2008, at 08:11, jk.dasgupta wrote:

> >>>> >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Dear Swee,

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Namaste.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Krishna & Vishnu should be 3 syllable.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Kri+sh+na & Vi+sh+nu

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Am I right?

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > jk

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> <%40>

> >>>> > > [

> >>>> <%40>]On Behalf Of Swee Chan

> >>>> > > Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:17 AM

> >>>> > >

> >>>> <%40>

> >>>> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and

respected

> >>>> > > Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy)

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Jaya Jagannatha

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Dear Visti,

> >>>> > > Namaste

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Agree on most points except that as far as I am told and

> >>>> believe,

> >>>> > > the two syllabic mantras which have the most potencies

are:

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Shi-va, Krish-na, Vish-nu )

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Hence one word and the lagna becomes the source and the

> >>>> strengths

> >>>> > > and energies are shifted to the second house.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Thanks for the exchange.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > love,

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Swee

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > On 14 Apr 2008, at 20:05, Visti Larsen wrote:

> >>>> > >> हरे राम क

à¥Æ'षà¥Âण

> >>>> > >> Dear Swee, Namaskar.

> >>>> > >> Glad to be typing with you.

> >>>> > >> I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-

kriya, -

> >>>> bhoga

> >>>> > >> and -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-

astakshari.

> >>>> > >> Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we

first

> >>>> > >> have to identify the source of the problem first, viz.:

If

> >>>> Surya

> >>>> > >> is a problem then the atma itself is suffering and

therefore

> >>>> Shiva

> >>>> > >> mantras are necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at

its core

> >>>> an

> >>>> > >> unfulfilled desire for wealth is likely to cause the

problem

> >>>> and

> >>>> > >> Vishnu will bless the native to overcome this problem.

Like

> >>>> this

> >>>> > >> we can continue.

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive

their

> >>>> energy

> >>>> > >> from the third house, a house which rules our hands and

> >>>> therefore

> >>>> > >> the first act of karma. If malefics are causing the

problem,

> >>>> it

> >>>> > >> would be a good idea to choose mantras which have the

same

> >>>> number

> >>>> > >> of words as the house where the malefic is posited. I.e.

for

> >>>> > >> malefics in the fourth house, it would be advisable to

choose

> >>>> > >> mantras consisting of four words.

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house

of

> >>>> Ripu.

> >>>> > >> Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu

mantra:

> >>>> om

> >>>> > >> vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the

number of

> >>>> > >> aksharas coincide with is the house of focus and where

the

> >>>> fruits

> >>>> > >> will be felt.

> >>>> > >> The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the

> >>>> > >> intelligence of the Devata is experienced. So if a

problem is

> >>>> that

> >>>> > >> the native isn't thinking propperly to begin with, then

> >>>> mantras

> >>>> > >> where the mantra-devata sits on the first house are

necessary.

> >>>> > >> Some excellent ones for Vishnu and Narayana are:

> >>>> > >> om namo naaraayanaaya

> >>>> > >> vyam vyasadevaaya namah

> >>>> > >> om vasudevaaya namah

> >>>> > >> kliiM vasudevaaya namah

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>>> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >>>> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com>

> >>>> > >> @: visti@

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> swee@ skrev:

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> Jaya Jagannatha

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> Dear Visti,

> >>>> > >>> Namaste

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> Thank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is

> >>>> merely

> >>>> > >>> based on

> >>>> > >>> planetary placement - which in this case is the 6th

house. So

> >>>> we

> >>>> > >>> should be

> >>>> > >>> looking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that

ripu. In

> >>>> the

> >>>> > >>> case of

> >>>> > >>> Mithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and

aspects

> >>>> the

> >>>> > >>> 8th, 11th

> >>>> > >>> and 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case,

does

> >>>> > >>> nothing for

> >>>> > >>> the lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with

its

> >>>> lord

> >>>> > >>> placement.

> >>>> > >>> What about the number of words? Not important?

> >>>> > >>> love,

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> Swee

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> >>>> > >>> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> >>>> > >>> > If a person has planets in the sixth then they are

> >>>> succombing

> >>>> > >>> to ripus.

> >>>> > >>> > The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the

> >>>> Narayana

> >>>> > >>> mantra

> >>>> > >>> > will keep the person in check and help them during

this

> >>>> dasa. This

> >>>> > >>> > should be started from a Sunday.

> >>>> > >>> > There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya

mantra

> >>>> > >>> during this

> >>>> > >>> > time either, but if the problem is ripus then

Narayana

> >>>> mantra

> >>>> > >>> is very

> >>>> > >>> > much advised.

> >>>> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>>> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >>>> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com>

> >>>> > >>> > @: visti@

> >>>> > >>> >

> >>>> > >>> > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> >>>> > >>> >> Dear Visti,

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly

clear

> >>>> now.

> >>>> > >>> Specially

> >>>> > >>> >> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has

mithun

> >>>> lagna

> >>>> > >>> and

> >>>> > >>> >> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is

undergoing

> >>>> > >>> vimsottari

> >>>> > >>> >> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering

some

> >>>> > >>> porblems as

> >>>> > >>> >> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN

mantra? And

> >>>> what

> >>>> > >>> would

> >>>> > >>> >> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday?

Since budh

> >>>> is

> >>>> > >>> the

> >>>> > >>> >> afflicting planet?

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked

to

> >>>> chant any

> >>>> > >>> >> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him?

For

> >>>> example

> >>>> > >>> can

> >>>> > >>> >> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native

for health

> >>>> > >>> >> protection?

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> -Thanks a lot in advance

> >>>> > >>> >> Rajarshi

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> */Visti Larsen <visti@> <visti@>/ * wrote:

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> ??? ??? ?????

> >>>> > >>> >> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> >>>> > >>> >> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome

problems

> >>>> > >>> based on

> >>>> > >>> >> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-

> >>>> shanibhyam

> >>>> > >>> >> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the

problems

> >>>> of

> >>>> > >>> 6th,

> >>>> > >>> >> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the

worship

> >>>> of

> >>>> > >>> >> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both.

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or

Mantra-

> >>>> bhoga is

> >>>> > >>> >> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from

the

> >>>> third

> >>>> > >>> >> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha)

on

> >>>> the

> >>>> > >>> lagna,

> >>>> > >>> >> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the

same

> >>>> distance

> >>>> > >>> >> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So

this

> >>>> mantra

> >>>> > >>> >> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural

bhava

> >>>> making

> >>>> > >>> the

> >>>> > >>> >> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character,

etc.

> >>>> And it

> >>>> > >>> >> does so by solving the issues in career (10th),

ripus (6th),

> >>>> > >>> >> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th).

> >>>> > >>> >> These steps have been described in VRA.

> >>>> > >>> >> Hope this helps.

> >>>> > >>> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>>> > >>> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >>>> > >>> >> www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com>

> >>>> > >>> >> @: visti@

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> swee@ skrev:

> >>>> > >>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha

> >>>> > >>> >>>

> >>>> > >>> >>> Dear Rajarshi

> >>>> > >>> >>> Namaste

> >>>> > >>> >>>

> >>>> > >>> >>> Will attempt this answer below:

> >>>> > >>> >>>

> >>>> > >>> >>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with " om namah

narayanaya " .

> >>>> the

> >>>> > >>> >>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual

energy

> >>>> is

> >>>> > >>> 8th

> >>>> > >>> >>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is

5th

> >>>> from the

> >>>> > >>> >>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that

the

> >>>> effect of a

> >>>> > >>> >>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing

the

> >>>> number of

> >>>> > >>> >>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should

count the

> >>>> > >>> >>> difference between the source and destination house

and

> >>>> add the

> >>>> > >>> >>> same from the

> >>>> > >>> >>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So

which

> >>>> is the

> >>>> > >>> >>> correct method?

> >>>> > >>> >>>

> >>>> > >>> >>> -Thanks in advance

> >>>> > >>> >>> Rajarshi

> >>>> > >>> >>>

> >>>> > >>> >>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the

3rd

> >>>> house. Om

> >>>> > >>> >>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where

the

> >>>> spiritual

> >>>> > >>> >>> energy emanates

> >>>> > >>> >>> from. (Count from the third house and you will

arrive at

> >>>> the

> >>>> > >>> >>> tenth.) So

> >>>> > >>> >>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional

> >>>> > >>> >>> issues.Incidentally , Markandeya Muni recited the

same and

> >>>> > >>> >>> survived Yama's snatch

> >>>> > >>> >>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years

(Narasimha

> >>>> > >>> >>> Upapurana).

> >>>> > >>> >>> love,

> >>>> > >>> >>>

> >>>> > >>> >>> Swee

> >>>> > >>> >>>

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> /*

> >>>> > >>> >> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam*

> >>>> > >>> >> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam

||*

> >>>> > >>> >> */

> >>>> > >>> >>

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> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> >

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

I remember to have heard from guru ji ,The Mantra was reversed by

Bhagwan Chaityna Mahaprabhu To make it useful to all people of the

world.Without reversal it was meant to take one toward moksha.With

reversal it is kali taran mantra also( it is a expansion of Janak

shadakshari Mantra in essence).

So all friends are correct in their views but confusion is because

of missing logic associated with it.

Hope this settles issue.

RCS

 

 

 

 

, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> Dear Bivash , Namaskar

>

> I think this was dictated by his inner feeling to help.Some inner

voice

> of mission. This is often early enthusiasm which force one to

spread the

> Guru message to everyone.

>

> Motive was innocent, but the tactic is far from gentle. Still its

> auspicious.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal

>

>

> Swee Chan napisał(a):

> >

> >

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> >

> > Dear Rafal,

> > Namaste

> >

> > At least thats the idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His

followers.

> >

> > Thank you, exactly my expression, though I wonder why Bivash

should

> > suggest this when the original content of the mail has nothing

to do

> > with this.

> >

> > love,

> >

> > Swee

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On 19 Apr 2008, at 19:17, Rafal Gendarz wrote:

> >>

> >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> >> Dear Swee , Namaskar

> >>

> >> No, this mantra should be recited on any stage. It has very

strong

> >> effect and for this corageous ones who are on the stage of

karmayoga

> >> even in grhasta asrama and engaged in 'material' duties this is

the

> >> strongest weapon in this kali age. We should not be lazy to

recite

> >> kaliyuga mantra as this is the risky proposition. At least

thats the

> >> idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His followers.

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> >> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com> /

> >> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Swee Chan napisał(a):

> >>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Jaya Jagannatha

> >>>

> >>> Dear Bivash,

> >>> Namaste

> >>>

> >>> In this material when one has to go about doing his/her social

> >>> duties, the mahamantra is not the mantra to chant as taught by

> >>> Sanjay ji. When you've reached the stage of retirement and you

are

> >>> ready to forsake your family and society should you consider

the art

> >>> of chanting the mahamantra.

> >>>

> >>> love,

> >>>

> >>> Swee

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> On 18 Apr 2008, at 08:03, Bivash Ramroop wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>> Om Brihaspataye Namah

> >>>>

> >>>> Dear Members,

> >>>> Namaste

> >>>>

> >>>> For anyone interested in reading the Glories of Sri Krishna's

Holy

> >>>> Names as taught by Lord Caitanya and His disciples, a good

book to

> >>>> read is the " Art of Chanting Hare Krishna " by HH Mahanidhi

Swami.

> >>>>

> >>>> It is a good book to read to add to your perspective! Enjoy!

> >>>>

> >>>> Hare Krishna!

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> <%40>, Swee Chan <swee@>

> >>>> <swee@> wrote:

> >>>> >

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >>>> >

> >>>> > My Dear JK,

> >>>> > Namaste

> >>>> >

> >>>> > How have you been keeping? In reply to your query below,

your

> >>>> > assumption is correct (less the vowels) if katapayadi is

the

> >>>> issue

> >>>> > here but not in this case and so the syllabic count in this

case

> >>>> is two.

> >>>> >

> >>>> > And so, it has been said: Once you call out any of the two

> >>>> syllabic

> >>>> > names, HIS name will never leave your lips. I guess I can

vouch

> >>>> for

> >>>> > that )

> >>>> >

> >>>> > love,

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Swee

> >>>> >

> >>>> >

> >>>> > On 16 Apr 2008, at 08:11, jk.dasgupta wrote:

> >>>> >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Dear Swee,

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Namaste.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Krishna & Vishnu should be 3 syllable.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Kri+sh+na & Vi+sh+nu

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Am I right?

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > jk

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> <%40>

> >>>> > > [

> >>>> <%40>]On Behalf Of Swee Chan

> >>>> > > Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:17 AM

> >>>> > >

> >>>> <%40>

> >>>> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and

respected

> >>>> > > Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy)

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Jaya Jagannatha

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Dear Visti,

> >>>> > > Namaste

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Agree on most points except that as far as I am told and

> >>>> believe,

> >>>> > > the two syllabic mantras which have the most potencies

are:

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Shi-va, Krish-na, Vish-nu )

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Hence one word and the lagna becomes the source and the

> >>>> strengths

> >>>> > > and energies are shifted to the second house.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Thanks for the exchange.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > love,

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Swee

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > On 14 Apr 2008, at 20:05, Visti Larsen wrote:

> >>>> > >> हरे राम क

à¥Æ'षà¥Âण

> >>>> > >> Dear Swee, Namaskar.

> >>>> > >> Glad to be typing with you.

> >>>> > >> I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-

kriya, -

> >>>> bhoga

> >>>> > >> and -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-

astakshari.

> >>>> > >> Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we

first

> >>>> > >> have to identify the source of the problem first, viz.:

If

> >>>> Surya

> >>>> > >> is a problem then the atma itself is suffering and

therefore

> >>>> Shiva

> >>>> > >> mantras are necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at

its core

> >>>> an

> >>>> > >> unfulfilled desire for wealth is likely to cause the

problem

> >>>> and

> >>>> > >> Vishnu will bless the native to overcome this problem.

Like

> >>>> this

> >>>> > >> we can continue.

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive

their

> >>>> energy

> >>>> > >> from the third house, a house which rules our hands and

> >>>> therefore

> >>>> > >> the first act of karma. If malefics are causing the

problem,

> >>>> it

> >>>> > >> would be a good idea to choose mantras which have the

same

> >>>> number

> >>>> > >> of words as the house where the malefic is posited. I.e.

for

> >>>> > >> malefics in the fourth house, it would be advisable to

choose

> >>>> > >> mantras consisting of four words.

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house

of

> >>>> Ripu.

> >>>> > >> Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu

mantra:

> >>>> om

> >>>> > >> vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the

number of

> >>>> > >> aksharas coincide with is the house of focus and where

the

> >>>> fruits

> >>>> > >> will be felt.

> >>>> > >> The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the

> >>>> > >> intelligence of the Devata is experienced. So if a

problem is

> >>>> that

> >>>> > >> the native isn't thinking propperly to begin with, then

> >>>> mantras

> >>>> > >> where the mantra-devata sits on the first house are

necessary.

> >>>> > >> Some excellent ones for Vishnu and Narayana are:

> >>>> > >> om namo naaraayanaaya

> >>>> > >> vyam vyasadevaaya namah

> >>>> > >> om vasudevaaya namah

> >>>> > >> kliiM vasudevaaya namah

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>>> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >>>> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com>

> >>>> > >> @: visti@

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> swee@ skrev:

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> Jaya Jagannatha

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> Dear Visti,

> >>>> > >>> Namaste

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> Thank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is

> >>>> merely

> >>>> > >>> based on

> >>>> > >>> planetary placement - which in this case is the 6th

house. So

> >>>> we

> >>>> > >>> should be

> >>>> > >>> looking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that

ripu. In

> >>>> the

> >>>> > >>> case of

> >>>> > >>> Mithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and

aspects

> >>>> the

> >>>> > >>> 8th, 11th

> >>>> > >>> and 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case,

does

> >>>> > >>> nothing for

> >>>> > >>> the lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with

its

> >>>> lord

> >>>> > >>> placement.

> >>>> > >>> What about the number of words? Not important?

> >>>> > >>> love,

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> Swee

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> >>>> > >>> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> >>>> > >>> > If a person has planets in the sixth then they are

> >>>> succombing

> >>>> > >>> to ripus.

> >>>> > >>> > The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the

> >>>> Narayana

> >>>> > >>> mantra

> >>>> > >>> > will keep the person in check and help them during

this

> >>>> dasa. This

> >>>> > >>> > should be started from a Sunday.

> >>>> > >>> > There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya

mantra

> >>>> > >>> during this

> >>>> > >>> > time either, but if the problem is ripus then

Narayana

> >>>> mantra

> >>>> > >>> is very

> >>>> > >>> > much advised.

> >>>> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>>> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >>>> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com>

> >>>> > >>> > @: visti@

> >>>> > >>> >

> >>>> > >>> > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> >>>> > >>> >> Dear Visti,

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly

clear

> >>>> now.

> >>>> > >>> Specially

> >>>> > >>> >> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has

mithun

> >>>> lagna

> >>>> > >>> and

> >>>> > >>> >> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is

undergoing

> >>>> > >>> vimsottari

> >>>> > >>> >> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering

some

> >>>> > >>> porblems as

> >>>> > >>> >> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN

mantra? And

> >>>> what

> >>>> > >>> would

> >>>> > >>> >> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday?

Since budh

> >>>> is

> >>>> > >>> the

> >>>> > >>> >> afflicting planet?

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked

to

> >>>> chant any

> >>>> > >>> >> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him?

For

> >>>> example

> >>>> > >>> can

> >>>> > >>> >> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native

for health

> >>>> > >>> >> protection?

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> -Thanks a lot in advance

> >>>> > >>> >> Rajarshi

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> */Visti Larsen <visti@> <visti@>/ * wrote:

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> ??? ??? ?????

> >>>> > >>> >> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> >>>> > >>> >> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome

problems

> >>>> > >>> based on

> >>>> > >>> >> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-

> >>>> shanibhyam

> >>>> > >>> >> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the

problems

> >>>> of

> >>>> > >>> 6th,

> >>>> > >>> >> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the

worship

> >>>> of

> >>>> > >>> >> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both.

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or

Mantra-

> >>>> bhoga is

> >>>> > >>> >> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from

the

> >>>> third

> >>>> > >>> >> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha)

on

> >>>> the

> >>>> > >>> lagna,

> >>>> > >>> >> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the

same

> >>>> distance

> >>>> > >>> >> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So

this

> >>>> mantra

> >>>> > >>> >> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural

bhava

> >>>> making

> >>>> > >>> the

> >>>> > >>> >> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character,

etc.

> >>>> And it

> >>>> > >>> >> does so by solving the issues in career (10th),

ripus (6th),

> >>>> > >>> >> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th).

> >>>> > >>> >> These steps have been described in VRA.

> >>>> > >>> >> Hope this helps.

> >>>> > >>> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>>> > >>> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >>>> > >>> >> www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com>

> >>>> > >>> >> @: visti@

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> swee@ skrev:

> >>>> > >>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha

> >>>> > >>> >>>

> >>>> > >>> >>> Dear Rajarshi

> >>>> > >>> >>> Namaste

> >>>> > >>> >>>

> >>>> > >>> >>> Will attempt this answer below:

> >>>> > >>> >>>

> >>>> > >>> >>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with " om namah

narayanaya " .

> >>>> the

> >>>> > >>> >>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual

energy

> >>>> is

> >>>> > >>> 8th

> >>>> > >>> >>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is

5th

> >>>> from the

> >>>> > >>> >>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that

the

> >>>> effect of a

> >>>> > >>> >>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing

the

> >>>> number of

> >>>> > >>> >>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should

count the

> >>>> > >>> >>> difference between the source and destination house

and

> >>>> add the

> >>>> > >>> >>> same from the

> >>>> > >>> >>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So

which

> >>>> is the

> >>>> > >>> >>> correct method?

> >>>> > >>> >>>

> >>>> > >>> >>> -Thanks in advance

> >>>> > >>> >>> Rajarshi

> >>>> > >>> >>>

> >>>> > >>> >>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the

3rd

> >>>> house. Om

> >>>> > >>> >>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where

the

> >>>> spiritual

> >>>> > >>> >>> energy emanates

> >>>> > >>> >>> from. (Count from the third house and you will

arrive at

> >>>> the

> >>>> > >>> >>> tenth.) So

> >>>> > >>> >>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional

> >>>> > >>> >>> issues.Incidentally , Markandeya Muni recited the

same and

> >>>> > >>> >>> survived Yama's snatch

> >>>> > >>> >>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years

(Narasimha

> >>>> > >>> >>> Upapurana).

> >>>> > >>> >>> love,

> >>>> > >>> >>>

> >>>> > >>> >>> Swee

> >>>> > >>> >>>

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> /*

> >>>> > >>> >> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam*

> >>>> > >>> >> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam

||*

> >>>> > >>> >> */

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---------

> >>>> --------- -

> >>>> > >>> >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading

messenger.

> >>>> > >>> Click here

> >>>> > >>> >> <http://in.rd. / tagline_webmesse

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> >>>> > >>> in.messenger. / webmessengerprom o.php>>>

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> >

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear RCS , Namaskar

 

One idea is thats it is reversed for the foreigners (rahu). But still

in India there are many Vaishnavas who are the followers of Chaitanya

Bhagavata (where the mantra is written besides Kali Shantara Up.) and

they are reciting in the reversed fashion. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu who was

the chaya-avatara (SB 7 Canto) preached this kirtana as the most

succesful method to achieve ultimate goal of life in Kaliyuga.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com /

email:

rafal

 

 

R.C.Srivastava napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

 

Dear friends,

I remember to have heard from guru ji ,The Mantra was reversed by

Bhagwan Chaityna Mahaprabhu To make it useful to all people of the

world.Without reversal it was meant to take one toward moksha.With

reversal it is kali taran mantra also( it is a expansion of Janak

shadakshari Mantra in essence).

So all friends are correct in their views but confusion is because

of missing logic associated with it.

Hope this settles issue.

RCS

 

@

. com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...>

wrote:

>

> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> Dear Bivash , Namaskar

>

> I think this was dictated by his inner feeling to help.Some inner

voice

> of mission. This is often early enthusiasm which force one to

spread the

> Guru message to everyone.

>

> Motive was innocent, but the tactic is far from gentle. Still its

> auspicious.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> www: http://rohinaa. com /

email: rafal

>

>

> Swee Chan napisał(a):

> >

> >

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> >

> > Dear Rafal,

> > Namaste

> >

> > At least thats the idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are

His

followers.

> >

> > Thank you, exactly my expression, though I wonder why Bivash

should

> > suggest this when the original content of the mail has

nothing

to do

> > with this.

> >

> > love,

> >

> > Swee

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On 19 Apr 2008, at 19:17, Rafal Gendarz wrote:

> >>

> >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> >> Dear Swee , Namaskar

> >>

> >> No, this mantra should be recited on any stage. It has

very

strong

> >> effect and for this corageous ones who are on the stage

of

karmayoga

> >> even in grhasta asrama and engaged in 'material' duties

this is

the

> >> strongest weapon in this kali age. We should not be lazy

to

recite

> >> kaliyuga mantra as this is the risky proposition. At

least

thats the

> >> idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His followers.

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> >> www: http://rohinaa. com

<http://www.rohinaa. com> /

> >> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Swee Chan napisał(a):

> >>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Jaya Jagannatha

> >>>

> >>> Dear Bivash,

> >>> Namaste

> >>>

> >>> In this material when one has to go about doing

his/her social

> >>> duties, the mahamantra is not the mantra to chant as

taught by

> >>> Sanjay ji. When you've reached the stage of

retirement and you

are

> >>> ready to forsake your family and society should you

consider

the art

> >>> of chanting the mahamantra.

> >>>

> >>> love,

> >>>

> >>> Swee

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> On 18 Apr 2008, at 08:03, Bivash Ramroop wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>> Om Brihaspataye Namah

> >>>>

> >>>> Dear Members,

> >>>> Namaste

> >>>>

> >>>> For anyone interested in reading the Glories of

Sri Krishna's

Holy

> >>>> Names as taught by Lord Caitanya and His

disciples, a good

book to

> >>>> read is the "Art of Chanting Hare Krishna" by HH

Mahanidhi

Swami.

> >>>>

> >>>> It is a good book to read to add to your

perspective! Enjoy!

> >>>>

> >>>> Hare Krishna!

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>,

Swee Chan <swee@>

> >>>> <swee@ > wrote:

> >>>> >

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >>>> >

> >>>> > My Dear JK,

> >>>> > Namaste

> >>>> >

> >>>> > How have you been keeping? In reply to your

query below,

your

> >>>> > assumption is correct (less the vowels) if

katapayadi is

the

> >>>> issue

> >>>> > here but not in this case and so the

syllabic count in this

case

> >>>> is two.

> >>>> >

> >>>> > And so, it has been said: Once you call out

any of the two

> >>>> syllabic

> >>>> > names, HIS name will never leave your lips.

I guess I can

vouch

> >>>> for

> >>>> > that )

> >>>> >

> >>>> > love,

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Swee

> >>>> >

> >>>> >

> >>>> > On 16 Apr 2008, at 08:11, jk.dasgupta wrote:

> >>>> >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Dear Swee,

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Namaste.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Krishna & Vishnu should be 3

syllable.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Kri+sh+na & Vi+sh+nu

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Am I right?

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > jk

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>

> >>>> > > [srijagannat h

 

> >>>> <srijagannat h%40.

com>]On Behalf Of Swee Chan

> >>>> > > Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:17 AM

> >>>> > >

> >>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>

> >>>> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri

Sanjay Rath and

respected

> >>>> > > Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy)

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Jaya Jagannatha

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Dear Visti,

> >>>> > > Namaste

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Agree on most points except that as far

as I am told and

> >>>> believe,

> >>>> > > the two syllabic mantras which have the

most potencies

are:

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Shi-va, Krish-na, Vish-nu )

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Hence one word and the lagna becomes

the source and the

> >>>> strengths

> >>>> > > and energies are shifted to the second

house.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Thanks for the exchange.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > love,

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Swee

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > On 14 Apr 2008, at 20:05, Visti Larsen

wrote:

> >>>> > >> à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡

à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•

à ¥Æ'à ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£

> >>>> > >> Dear Swee, Namaskar.

> >>>> > >> Glad to be typing with you.

> >>>> > >> I was disagreeing with your

calculations of mantra-

kriya, -

> >>>> bhoga

> >>>> > >> and -devata and clarifying the

impact of the Naryana-

astakshari.

> >>>> > >> Figuring the words and aksharas is

the second step as we

first

> >>>> > >> have to identify the source of the

problem first, viz.:

If

> >>>> Surya

> >>>> > >> is a problem then the atma itself

is suffering and

therefore

> >>>> Shiva

> >>>> > >> mantras are necessary. If Mercury

is a problem then at

its core

> >>>> an

> >>>> > >> unfulfilled desire for wealth is

likely to cause the

problem

> >>>> and

> >>>> > >> Vishnu will bless the native to

overcome this problem.

Like

> >>>> this

> >>>> > >> we can continue.

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> Some of the best mantras have 3

words as they derive

their

> >>>> energy

> >>>> > >> from the third house, a house which

rules our hands and

> >>>> therefore

> >>>> > >> the first act of karma. If malefics

are causing the

problem,

> >>>> it

> >>>> > >> would be a good idea to choose

mantras which have the

same

> >>>> number

> >>>> > >> of words as the house where the

malefic is posited. I.e.

for

> >>>> > >> malefics in the fourth house, it

would be advisable to

choose

> >>>> > >> mantras consisting of four words.

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> If it is six aksharas then it will

purify the six house

of

> >>>> Ripu.

> >>>> > >> Therefore in the given example the

shadakshari Vishnu

mantra:

> >>>> om

> >>>> > >> vishnave namah| is applicable.

Whichever house the

number of

> >>>> > >> aksharas coincide with is the house

of focus and where

the

> >>>> fruits

> >>>> > >> will be felt.

> >>>> > >> The resultant place of the

Mantra-devata shows where the

> >>>> > >> intelligence of the Devata is

experienced. So if a

problem is

> >>>> that

> >>>> > >> the native isn't thinking propperly

to begin with, then

> >>>> mantras

> >>>> > >> where the mantra-devata sits on the

first house are

necessary.

> >>>> > >> Some excellent ones for Vishnu and

Narayana are:

> >>>> > >> om namo naaraayanaaya

> >>>> > >> vyam vyasadevaaya namah

> >>>> > >> om vasudevaaya namah

> >>>> > >> kliiM vasudevaaya namah

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>>> > >> ------------ --------- ---------

--------- ----

> >>>> > >> www: http://srigaruda.

com <http://srigaruda. com>

> >>>> > >> @: visti@

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> swee@ skrev:

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> Jaya Jagannatha

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> Dear Visti,

> >>>> > >>> Namaste

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> Thank you for your insight.

What you are agreeing to is

> >>>> merely

> >>>> > >>> based on

> >>>> > >>> planetary placement - which in

this case is the 6th

house. So

> >>>> we

> >>>> > >>> should be

> >>>> > >>> looking at the mantra of 6

aksharas to cleanse that

ripu. In

> >>>> the

> >>>> > >>> case of

> >>>> > >>> Mithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th

house is co-lorded and

aspects

> >>>> the

> >>>> > >>> 8th, 11th

> >>>> > >>> and 2nd. The 8 akshara in your

reasoning in this case,

does

> >>>> > >>> nothing for

> >>>> > >>> the lagna as the lagna lord

does not rasi drishti with

its

> >>>> lord

> >>>> > >>> placement.

> >>>> > >>> What about the number of words?

Not important?

> >>>> > >>> love,

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> Swee

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> >>>> > >>> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> >>>> > >>> > If a person has planets in

the sixth then they are

> >>>> succombing

> >>>> > >>> to ripus.

> >>>> > >>> > The dasas of these will

bring these to fore. Yes, the

> >>>> Narayana

> >>>> > >>> mantra

> >>>> > >>> > will keep the person in

check and help them during

this

> >>>> dasa. This

> >>>> > >>> > should be started from a

Sunday.

> >>>> > >>> > There is nothing wrong

with advising the Mrtyunjaya

mantra

> >>>> > >>> during this

> >>>> > >>> > time either, but if the

problem is ripus then

Narayana

> >>>> mantra

> >>>> > >>> is very

> >>>> > >>> > much advised.

> >>>> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti

Larsen

> >>>> > >>> > ------------ ---------

--------- --------- ----

> >>>> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>

> >>>> > >>> > @: visti@

> >>>> > >>> >

> >>>> > >>> > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> >>>> > >>> >> Dear Visti,

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> Thanks a lot for the

explanation. It is perfectly

clear

> >>>> now.

> >>>> > >>> Specially

> >>>> > >>> >> about the pratyadi

devata part. So if someone has

mithun

> >>>> lagna

> >>>> > >>> and

> >>>> > >>> >> lagnesh is in 6th

house with venus, and he is

undergoing

> >>>> > >>> vimsottari

> >>>> > >>> >> dasa/antardasa of

mercury (lagnesh) and suffering

some

> >>>> > >>> porblems as

> >>>> > >>> >> well,, can I advice

him to chant this NARAYAN

mantra? And

> >>>> what

> >>>> > >>> would

> >>>> > >>> >> be teh best day to

start this mantra? Wednesday?

Since budh

> >>>> is

> >>>> > >>> the

> >>>> > >>> >> afflicting planet?

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> Also in this

particluar case, if the native is asked

to

> >>>> chant any

> >>>> > >>> >> mantra related to

shukra , will it be bad for him?

For

> >>>> example

> >>>> > >>> can

> >>>> > >>> >> mahamiryuntjaya mantra

be adivced for this native

for health

> >>>> > >>> >> protection?

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> -Thanks a lot in

advance

> >>>> > >>> >> Rajarshi

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> */Visti Larsen

<visti@> <visti@ >/ * wrote:

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> ??? ??? ?????

> >>>> > >>> >> Dear Swee and

Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> >>>> > >>> >> Pratyadhi devata

mantras are advised to overcome

problems

> >>>> > >>> based on

> >>>> > >>> >> the bhava-karaka.

Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-

> >>>> shanibhyam

> >>>> > >>> >> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It

means that we can solve the

problems

> >>>> of

> >>>> > >>> 6th,

> >>>> > >>> >> 8th, 12th (shani) and

tenth (budha) houses with the

worship

> >>>> of

> >>>> > >>> >> Narayana as he is the

Pratyadhi devata of both.

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> Because the mantra is

eight aksharas its focus or

Mantra-

> >>>> bhoga is

> >>>> > >>> >> on the eighth house

from LAGNA. Not the eighth from

the

> >>>> third

> >>>> > >>> >> house. Therefore the

mantra-devata will sit (arudha)

on

> >>>> the

> >>>> > >>> lagna,

> >>>> > >>> >> viz: count from third

to eighth and then count the

same

> >>>> distance

> >>>> > >>> >> therefrom and you will

arrive at the first house. So

this

> >>>> mantra

> >>>> > >>> >> places Narayana on the

Lagna which is his natural

bhava

> >>>> making

> >>>> > >>> the

> >>>> > >>> >> mantra prasiddha and

protects intellect, character,

etc.

> >>>> And it

> >>>> > >>> >> does so by solving the

issues in career (10th),

ripus (6th),

> >>>> > >>> >> dusthakarma (8th) and

meditation (12th).

> >>>> > >>> >> These steps have been

described in VRA.

> >>>> > >>> >> Hope this helps.

> >>>> > >>> >> Yours sincerely, Visti

Larsen

> >>>> > >>> >> ------------ ---------

--------- --------- ----

> >>>> > >>> >> www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>

> >>>> > >>> >> @: visti@

> >>>> > >>> >>

> >>>> > >>> >> swee@ skrev:

> >>>> > >>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha

> >>>> > >>> >>>

> >>>> > >>> >>> Dear Rajarshi

> >>>> > >>> >>> Namaste

> >>>> > >>> >>>

> >>>> > >>> >>> Will attempt this

answer below:

> >>>> > >>> >>>

> >>>> > >>> >>> 2)Also it is

mentioned that as with "om namah

narayanaya".

> >>>> the

> >>>> > >>> >>> source is the 3rd

house, the focus of the spiritual

energy

> >>>> is

> >>>> > >>> 8th

> >>>> > >>> >>> house (8 aksharas)

and the effect of the mantra is

5th

> >>>> from the

> >>>> > >>> >>> 8th house, i.e.

12th house. So does it mean that

the

> >>>> effect of a

> >>>> > >>> >>> mantra is always

fifth from the house representing

the

> >>>> number of

> >>>> > >>> >>> aksharas? I had

read in an article that we should

count the

> >>>> > >>> >>> difference between

the source and destination house

and

> >>>> add the

> >>>> > >>> >>> same from the

> >>>> > >>> >>> destination house

to find where the devata sits. So

which

> >>>> is the

> >>>> > >>> >>> correct method?

> >>>> > >>> >>>

> >>>> > >>> >>> -Thanks in advance

> >>>> > >>> >>> Rajarshi

> >>>> > >>> >>>

> >>>> > >>> >>> Tne mantra has

three words - hence source is the

3rd

> >>>> house. Om

> >>>> > >>> >>> Namo Narayanaya is

an eight syllabic mantra where

the

> >>>> spiritual

> >>>> > >>> >>> energy emanates

> >>>> > >>> >>> from. (Count from

the third house and you will

arrive at

> >>>> the

> >>>> > >>> >>> tenth.) So

> >>>> > >>> >>> this mantra

protects the kendra and professional

> >>>> > >>> >>>

issues.Incidentally , Markandeya Muni recited the

same and

> >>>> > >>> >>> survived Yama's

snatch

> >>>> > >>> >>> at aged 16 and

lived on for hundreds more years

(Narasimha

> >>>> > >>> >>> Upapurana).

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> >>>> > >>> >> *Aditya Hrudayam

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Also when u keep chanting something in the reverse, for consequetive chants the rhythms mixes with the main chant and then there is really not much difference between the main chant and the reverse chant.. specially in a mantra like this.. otherwise Kabir would not have attained enlightenment by chanting ma-ra instead of ra-ma..Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: kleem namah narasimhaayaDear RCS , NamaskarOne idea

is thats it is reversed for the foreigners (rahu). But still in India there are many Vaishnavas who are the followers of Chaitanya Bhagavata (where the mantra is written besides Kali Shantara Up.) and they are reciting in the reversed fashion. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu who was the chaya-avatara (SB 7 Canto) preached this kirtana as the most succesful method to achieve ultimate goal of life in Kaliyuga.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comR.C.Srivastava napisał(a): Dear friends,I remember to have heard from guru ji ,The Mantra was reversed by Bhagwan Chaityna Mahaprabhu To make it useful to all people of the world.Without reversal it was meant to take one toward moksha.With reversal it is kali taran mantra also( it is a expansion of Janak shadakshari Mantra in essence).So all friends are correct in their views but confusion is because of missing logic associated with it.Hope this settles issue.RCS , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> Dear Bivash , Namaskar> > I think this was dictated by his inner

feeling to help.Some inner voice > of mission. This is often early enthusiasm which force one to spread the > Guru message to everyone.> > Motive was innocent, but the tactic is far from gentle. Still its > auspicious.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal > > Swee Chan napisał(a):> >> >> > Jaya Jagannatha> >> >> > Dear Rafal,> > Namaste> >> > At least thats the idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His followers.> >> > Thank you, exactly my expression, though I wonder why Bivash should > > suggest this when the original content of the mail has nothing to do > > with this.> >> > love,> >> > Swee> >>

>> >> >> > On 19 Apr 2008, at 19:17, Rafal Gendarz wrote:> >>> >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> >> Dear Swee , Namaskar> >>> >> No, this mantra should be recited on any stage. It has very strong > >> effect and for this corageous ones who are on the stage of karmayoga > >> even in grhasta asrama and engaged in 'material' duties this is the > >> strongest weapon in this kali age. We should not be lazy to recite > >> kaliyuga mantra as this is the risky proposition. At least thats the > >> idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His followers.> >>> >> Regards,> >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> >> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com> / > >> email:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...>> >>> >>> >>> >> Swee Chan napisał(a):> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha> >>>> >>> Dear Bivash,> >>> Namaste> >>>> >>> In this material when one has to go about doing his/her social > >>> duties, the mahamantra is not the mantra to chant as taught by > >>> Sanjay ji. When you've reached the stage of retirement and you are > >>> ready to forsake your family and society should you consider the art > >>> of chanting the mahamantra.> >>>> >>> love,> >>>> >>> Swee> >>>> >>>> >>> On 18 Apr 2008, at 08:03,

Bivash Ramroop wrote:> >>>>> >>>> Om Brihaspataye Namah> >>>>> >>>> Dear Members,> >>>> Namaste> >>>>> >>>> For anyone interested in reading the Glories of Sri Krishna's Holy > >>>> Names as taught by Lord Caitanya and His disciples, a good book to > >>>> read is the "Art of Chanting Hare Krishna" by HH Mahanidhi Swami.> >>>>> >>>> It is a good book to read to add to your perspective! Enjoy! > >>>>> >>>> Hare Krishna! > >>>>> >>>> > >>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Swee Chan <swee@> > >>>> <swee@ > wrote:> >>>> >> >>>> > > >>>> > Jaya Jagannatha> >>>> > > >>>> > My Dear JK,> >>>> > Namaste> >>>> > > >>>> > How have you been keeping? In reply to your query below, your > >>>> > assumption is correct (less the vowels) if katapayadi is the > >>>> issue > >>>> > here but not in this case and so the syllabic count in this case > >>>> is two.> >>>> > > >>>> > And so, it has been said: Once you call out any of the two > >>>> syllabic > >>>> > names, HIS name will never leave your lips. I guess I can vouch > >>>> for >

>>>> > that )> >>>> > > >>>> > love,> >>>> > > >>>> > Swee> >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > On 16 Apr 2008, at 08:11, jk.dasgupta wrote:> >>>> > > >>>> > >> >>>> > > Dear Swee,> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Namaste.> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Krishna & Vishnu should be 3 syllable.> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Kri+sh+na & Vi+sh+nu> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Am I right?> >>>> > >> >>>> > > jk> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > -----Original

Message-----> >>>> > > > >>>> <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>> > > [srijagannat h > >>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>]On Behalf Of Swee Chan> >>>> > > Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:17 AM> >>>> > > > >>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>> >>>> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected > >>>> >

> Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy)> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Jaya Jagannatha> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Dear Visti,> >>>> > > Namaste> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Agree on most points except that as far as I am told and > >>>> believe, > >>>> > > the two syllabic mantras which have the most potencies are:> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Shi-va, Krish-na, Vish-nu )> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Hence one word and the lagna becomes the source and the > >>>> strengths > >>>> > > and energies are shifted to the second house.> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Thanks for the

exchange.> >>>> > >> >>>> > > love,> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Swee> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > On 14 Apr 2008, at 20:05, Visti Larsen wrote:> >>>> > >> à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥Æ'à ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£> >>>> > >> Dear Swee, Namaskar.> >>>> > >> Glad to be typing with you.> >>>> > >> I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-kriya, -> >>>> bhoga > >>>> > >> and -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-astakshari.> >>>> > >> Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we first > >>>> >

>> have to identify the source of the problem first, viz.: If > >>>> Surya > >>>> > >> is a problem then the atma itself is suffering and therefore > >>>> Shiva > >>>> > >> mantras are necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at its core > >>>> an > >>>> > >> unfulfilled desire for wealth is likely to cause the problem > >>>> and > >>>> > >> Vishnu will bless the native to overcome this problem. Like > >>>> this > >>>> > >> we can continue.> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >> Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive their > >>>> energy > >>>> > >> from the third house, a house which rules our hands and >

>>>> therefore > >>>> > >> the first act of karma. If malefics are causing the problem, > >>>> it > >>>> > >> would be a good idea to choose mantras which have the same > >>>> number > >>>> > >> of words as the house where the malefic is posited. I.e. for > >>>> > >> malefics in the fourth house, it would be advisable to choose > >>>> > >> mantras consisting of four words.> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >> If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house of > >>>> Ripu. > >>>> > >> Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu mantra: > >>>> om > >>>> > >> vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the

number of > >>>> > >> aksharas coincide with is the house of focus and where the > >>>> fruits > >>>> > >> will be felt.> >>>> > >> The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the > >>>> > >> intelligence of the Devata is experienced. So if a problem is > >>>> that > >>>> > >> the native isn't thinking propperly to begin with, then > >>>> mantras > >>>> > >> where the mantra-devata sits on the first house are necessary. > >>>> > >> Some excellent ones for Vishnu and Narayana are:> >>>> > >> om namo naaraayanaaya> >>>> > >> vyam vyasadevaaya namah> >>>> > >> om vasudevaaya namah> >>>> > >>

kliiM vasudevaaya namah> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> >>>> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> >>>> > >> @: visti@> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >> swee@ skrev:> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>> Jaya Jagannatha> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>> Dear Visti,> >>>> > >>> Namaste> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>> Thank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is > >>>>

merely > >>>> > >>> based on> >>>> > >>> planetary placement - which in this case is the 6th house. So > >>>> we > >>>> > >>> should be> >>>> > >>> looking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that ripu. In > >>>> the > >>>> > >>> case of> >>>> > >>> Mithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and aspects > >>>> the > >>>> > >>> 8th, 11th> >>>> > >>> and 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case, does > >>>> > >>> nothing for> >>>> > >>> the lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with its > >>>> lord > >>>> > >>>

placement.> >>>> > >>> What about the number of words? Not important?> >>>> > >>> love,> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>> Swee> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????> >>>> > >>> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> >>>> > >>> > If a person has planets in the sixth then they are > >>>> succombing > >>>> > >>> to ripus.> >>>> > >>> > The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the > >>>> Narayana > >>>> > >>> mantra> >>>> > >>> > will keep the person in check and help them during this > >>>> dasa. This> >>>> > >>>

> should be started from a Sunday.> >>>> > >>> > There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra > >>>> > >>> during this> >>>> > >>> > time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana > >>>> mantra > >>>> > >>> is very> >>>> > >>> > much advised.> >>>> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> >>>> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> >>>> > >>> > @: visti@> >>>> > >>> >> >>>> > >>> > rajarshi nandy

skrev:> >>>> > >>> >> Dear Visti,> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear > >>>> now. > >>>> > >>> Specially> >>>> > >>> >> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun > >>>> lagna > >>>> > >>> and> >>>> > >>> >> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing > >>>> > >>> vimsottari> >>>> > >>> >> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some > >>>> > >>> porblems as> >>>> > >>> >> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And > >>>>

what > >>>> > >>> would> >>>> > >>> >> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh > >>>> is > >>>> > >>> the> >>>> > >>> >> afflicting planet?> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to > >>>> chant any> >>>> > >>> >> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For > >>>> example > >>>> > >>> can> >>>> > >>> >> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health> >>>> > >>> >> protection?> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>>

>> -Thanks a lot in advance> >>>> > >>> >> Rajarshi> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >> */Visti Larsen <visti@> <visti@ >/ * wrote:> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >> ??? ??? ?????> >>>> > >>> >> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar.> >>>> > >>> >> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems > >>>> > >>> based on> >>>> > >>> >> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-> >>>> shanibhyam> >>>> > >>> >> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems > >>>> of >

>>>> > >>> 6th,> >>>> > >>> >> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship > >>>> of> >>>> > >>> >> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both.> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-> >>>> bhoga is> >>>> > >>> >> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the > >>>> third> >>>> > >>> >> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on > >>>> the > >>>> > >>> lagna,> >>>> > >>> >> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same > >>>> distance>

>>>> > >>> >> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this > >>>> mantra> >>>> > >>> >> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava > >>>> making > >>>> > >>> the> >>>> > >>> >> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. > >>>> And it> >>>> > >>> >> does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th),> >>>> > >>> >> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th).> >>>> > >>> >> These steps have been described in VRA.> >>>> > >>> >> Hope this helps.> >>>> > >>> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>> > >>> >>

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> >>>> > >>> >> www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> >>>> > >>> >> @: visti@> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >> swee@ skrev:> >>>> > >>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >>> Dear Rajarshi> >>>> > >>> >>> Namaste> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >>> Will attempt this answer below:> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya".

> >>>> the> >>>> > >>> >>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy > >>>> is > >>>> > >>> 8th> >>>> > >>> >>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th > >>>> from the> >>>> > >>> >>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the > >>>> effect of a> >>>> > >>> >>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing the > >>>> number of> >>>> > >>> >>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the> >>>> > >>> >>> difference between the source and destination house and > >>>> add the> >>>> >

>>> >>> same from the> >>>> > >>> >>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So which > >>>> is the> >>>> > >>> >>> correct method?> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >>> -Thanks in advance> >>>> > >>> >>> Rajarshi> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd > >>>> house. Om> >>>> > >>> >>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the > >>>> spiritual> >>>> > >>> >>> energy emanates> >>>> > >>> >>> from. (Count from the third house and you

will arrive at > >>>> the> >>>> > >>> >>> tenth.) So> >>>> > >>> >>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional> >>>> > >>> >>> issues.Incidentally , Markandeya Muni recited the same and> >>>> > >>> >>> survived Yama's snatch> >>>> > >>> >>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha> >>>> > >>> >>> Upapurana).> >>>> > >>> >>> love,> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >>> Swee> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>>

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|| Om Gurave Namah || Hari Om,

Dear Rafel,

Thanks for your nsight.Original Mantra is no bar to those initiated by Guru.By the way Mantra gives direction but journey may contnue for series of Birth.

with regards.

OM TATSAT--" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."--

 

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Monday, April 21, 2008 4:39 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy)

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaayaDear RCS , NamaskarOne idea is thats it is reversed for the foreigners (rahu). But still in India there are many Vaishnavas who are the followers of Chaitanya Bhagavata (where the mantra is written besides Kali Shantara Up.) and they are reciting in the reversed fashion. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu who was the chaya-avatara (SB 7 Canto) preached this kirtana as the most succesful method to achieve ultimate goal of life in Kaliyuga.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comR.C.Srivastava napisał(a):

 

 

 

Dear friends,I remember to have heard from guru ji ,The Mantra was reversed by Bhagwan Chaityna Mahaprabhu To make it useful to all people of the world.Without reversal it was meant to take one toward moksha.With reversal it is kali taran mantra also( it is a expansion of Janak shadakshari Mantra in essence).So all friends are correct in their views but confusion is because of missing logic associated with it.Hope this settles issue.RCS , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> Dear Bivash , Namaskar> > I think this was dictated by his inner feeling to help.Some inner voice > of mission. This is often early enthusiasm which force one to spread the > Guru message to everyone.> > Motive was innocent, but the tactic is far from gentle. Still its > auspicious.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal > > Swee Chan napisaÅ‚(a):> >> >> > Jaya Jagannatha> >> >> > Dear Rafal,> > Namaste> >> > At least thats the idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His followers.> >> > Thank you, exactly my expression, though I wonder why Bivash should > > suggest this when the original content of the mail has nothing to do > > with this.> >> > love,> >> > Swee> >> >> >> >> > On 19 Apr 2008, at 19:17, Rafal Gendarz wrote:> >>> >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> >> Dear Swee , Namaskar> >>> >> No, this mantra should be recited on any stage. It has very strong > >> effect and for this corageous ones who are on the stage of karmayoga > >> even in grhasta asrama and engaged in 'material' duties this is the > >> strongest weapon in this kali age. We should not be lazy to recite > >> kaliyuga mantra as this is the risky proposition. At least thats the > >> idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His followers.> >>> >> Regards,> >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> >> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com> / > >> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...>> >>> >>> >>> >> Swee Chan napisaÅ‚(a):> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha> >>>> >>> Dear Bivash,> >>> Namaste> >>>> >>> In this material when one has to go about doing his/her social > >>> duties, the mahamantra is not the mantra to chant as taught by > >>> Sanjay ji. When you've reached the stage of retirement and you are > >>> ready to forsake your family and society should you consider the art > >>> of chanting the mahamantra.> >>>> >>> love,> >>>> >>> Swee> >>>> >>>> >>> On 18 Apr 2008, at 08:03, Bivash Ramroop wrote:> >>>>> >>>> Om Brihaspataye Namah> >>>>> >>>> Dear Members,> >>>> Namaste> >>>>> >>>> For anyone interested in reading the Glories of Sri Krishna's Holy > >>>> Names as taught by Lord Caitanya and His disciples, a good book to > >>>> read is the "Art of Chanting Hare Krishna" by HH Mahanidhi Swami.> >>>>> >>>> It is a good book to read to add to your perspective! Enjoy! > >>>>> >>>> Hare Krishna! > >>>>> >>>> > >>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Swee Chan <swee@> > >>>> <swee@ > wrote:> >>>> >> >>>> > > >>>> > Jaya Jagannatha> >>>> > > >>>> > My Dear JK,> >>>> > Namaste> >>>> > > >>>> > How have you been keeping? In reply to your query below, your > >>>> > assumption is correct (less the vowels) if katapayadi is the > >>>> issue > >>>> > here but not in this case and so the syllabic count in this case > >>>> is two.> >>>> > > >>>> > And so, it has been said: Once you call out any of the two > >>>> syllabic > >>>> > names, HIS name will never leave your lips. I guess I can vouch > >>>> for > >>>> > that )> >>>> > > >>>> > love,> >>>> > > >>>> > Swee> >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > On 16 Apr 2008, at 08:11, jk.dasgupta wrote:> >>>> > > >>>> > >> >>>> > > Dear Swee,> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Namaste.> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Krishna & Vishnu should be 3 syllable.> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Kri+sh+na & Vi+sh+nu> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Am I right?> >>>> > >> >>>> > > jk> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>> > > [srijagannat h > >>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>]On Behalf Of Swee Chan> >>>> > > Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:17 AM> >>>> > > > >>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>> >>>> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected > >>>> > > Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy)> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Jaya Jagannatha> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Dear Visti,> >>>> > > Namaste> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Agree on most points except that as far as I am told and > >>>> believe, > >>>> > > the two syllabic mantras which have the most potencies are:> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Shi-va, Krish-na, Vish-nu )> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Hence one word and the lagna becomes the source and the > >>>> strengths > >>>> > > and energies are shifted to the second house.> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Thanks for the exchange.> >>>> > >> >>>> > > love,> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Swee> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > On 14 Apr 2008, at 20:05, Visti Larsen wrote:> >>>> > >> à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥Æ'à ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£> >>>> > >> Dear Swee, Namaskar.> >>>> > >> Glad to be typing with you.> >>>> > >> I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-kriya, -> >>>> bhoga > >>>> > >> and -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-astakshari.> >>>> > >> Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we first > >>>> > >> have to identify the source of the problem first, viz.: If > >>>> Surya > >>>> > >> is a problem then the atma itself is suffering and therefore > >>>> Shiva > >>>> > >> mantras are necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at its core > >>>> an > >>>> > >> unfulfilled desire for wealth is likely to cause the problem > >>>> and > >>>> > >> Vishnu will bless the native to overcome this problem. Like > >>>> this > >>>> > >> we can continue.> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >> Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive their > >>>> energy > >>>> > >> from the third house, a house which rules our hands and > >>>> therefore > >>>> > >> the first act of karma. If malefics are causing the problem, > >>>> it > >>>> > >> would be a good idea to choose mantras which have the same > >>>> number > >>>> > >> of words as the house where the malefic is posited. I.e. for > >>>> > >> malefics in the fourth house, it would be advisable to choose > >>>> > >> mantras consisting of four words.> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >> If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house of > >>>> Ripu. > >>>> > >> Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu mantra: > >>>> om > >>>> > >> vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the number of > >>>> > >> aksharas coincide with is the house of focus and where the > >>>> fruits > >>>> > >> will be felt.> >>>> > >> The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the > >>>> > >> intelligence of the Devata is experienced. So if a problem is > >>>> that > >>>> > >> the native isn't thinking propperly to begin with, then > >>>> mantras > >>>> > >> where the mantra-devata sits on the first house are necessary. > >>>> > >> Some excellent ones for Vishnu and Narayana are:> >>>> > >> om namo naaraayanaaya> >>>> > >> vyam vyasadevaaya namah> >>>> > >> om vasudevaaya namah> >>>> > >> kliiM vasudevaaya namah> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> >>>> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> >>>> > >> @: visti@> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >> swee@ skrev:> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>> Jaya Jagannatha> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>> Dear Visti,> >>>> > >>> Namaste> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>> Thank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is > >>>> merely > >>>> > >>> based on> >>>> > >>> planetary placement - which in this case is the 6th house. So > >>>> we > >>>> > >>> should be> >>>> > >>> looking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that ripu. In > >>>> the > >>>> > >>> case of> >>>> > >>> Mithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and aspects > >>>> the > >>>> > >>> 8th, 11th> >>>> > >>> and 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case, does > >>>> > >>> nothing for> >>>> > >>> the lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with its > >>>> lord > >>>> > >>> placement.> >>>> > >>> What about the number of words? Not important?> >>>> > >>> love,> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>> Swee> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????> >>>> > >>> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> >>>> > >>> > If a person has planets in the sixth then they are > >>>> succombing > >>>> > >>> to ripus.> >>>> > >>> > The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the > >>>> Narayana > >>>> > >>> mantra> >>>> > >>> > will keep the person in check and help them during this > >>>> dasa. This> >>>> > >>> > should be started from a Sunday.> >>>> > >>> > There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya mantra > >>>> > >>> during this> >>>> > >>> > time either, but if the problem is ripus then Narayana > >>>> mantra > >>>> > >>> is very> >>>> > >>> > much advised.> >>>> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> >>>> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> >>>> > >>> > @: visti@> >>>> > >>> >> >>>> > >>> > rajarshi nandy skrev:> >>>> > >>> >> Dear Visti,> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly clear > >>>> now. > >>>> > >>> Specially> >>>> > >>> >> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has mithun > >>>> lagna > >>>> > >>> and> >>>> > >>> >> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is undergoing > >>>> > >>> vimsottari> >>>> > >>> >> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering some > >>>> > >>> porblems as> >>>> > >>> >> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN mantra? And > >>>> what > >>>> > >>> would> >>>> > >>> >> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday? Since budh > >>>> is > >>>> > >>> the> >>>> > >>> >> afflicting planet?> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked to > >>>> chant any> >>>> > >>> >> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him? For > >>>> example > >>>> > >>> can> >>>> > >>> >> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native for health> >>>> > >>> >> protection?> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >> -Thanks a lot in advance> >>>> > >>> >> Rajarshi> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >> */Visti Larsen <visti@> <visti@ >/ * wrote:> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >> ??? ??? ?????> >>>> > >>> >> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar.> >>>> > >>> >> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome problems > >>>> > >>> based on> >>>> > >>> >> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-> >>>> shanibhyam> >>>> > >>> >> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the problems > >>>> of > >>>> > >>> 6th,> >>>> > >>> >> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the worship > >>>> of> >>>> > >>> >> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both.> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or Mantra-> >>>> bhoga is> >>>> > >>> >> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from the > >>>> third> >>>> > >>> >> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha) on > >>>> the > >>>> > >>> lagna,> >>>> > >>> >> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the same > >>>> distance> >>>> > >>> >> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So this > >>>> mantra> >>>> > >>> >> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural bhava > >>>> making > >>>> > >>> the> >>>> > >>> >> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character, etc. > >>>> And it> >>>> > >>> >> does so by solving the issues in career (10th), ripus (6th),> >>>> > >>> >> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th).> >>>> > >>> >> These steps have been described in VRA.> >>>> > >>> >> Hope this helps.> >>>> > >>> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>> > >>> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> >>>> > >>> >> www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> >>>> > >>> >> @: visti@> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >> swee@ skrev:> >>>> > >>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >>> Dear Rajarshi> >>>> > >>> >>> Namaste> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >>> Will attempt this answer below:> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah narayanaya". > >>>> the> >>>> > >>> >>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual energy > >>>> is > >>>> > >>> 8th> >>>> > >>> >>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is 5th > >>>> from the> >>>> > >>> >>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that the > >>>> effect of a> >>>> > >>> >>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing the > >>>> number of> >>>> > >>> >>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should count the> >>>> > >>> >>> difference between the source and destination house and > >>>> add the> >>>> > >>> >>> same from the> >>>> > >>> >>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So which > >>>> is the> >>>> > >>> >>> correct method?> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >>> -Thanks in advance> >>>> > >>> >>> Rajarshi> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the 3rd > >>>> house. Om> >>>> > >>> >>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where the > >>>> spiritual> >>>> > >>> >>> energy emanates> >>>> > >>> >>> from. (Count from the third house and you will arrive at > >>>> the> >>>> > >>> >>> tenth.) So> >>>> > >>> >>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional> >>>> > >>> >>> issues.Incidentally , Markandeya Muni recited the same and> >>>> > >>> >>> survived Yama's snatch> >>>> > >>> >>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years (Narasimha> >>>> > >>> >>> Upapurana).> >>>> > >>> >>> love,> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >>> Swee> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >> /*> >>>> > >>> >> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam*> >>>> > >>> >> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||*> >>>> > >>> >> */> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- > >>>> --------- -> >>>> > >>> >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > >>>> > >>> Click here> >>>> > >>> >> <http://in.rd. / tagline_webmesse nger_2/*http: // > >>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_webmesse nger_2/*http: //> > >>>> > >>> in.messenger. / webmessengerprom o.php>>>> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >>

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Dear Prabhus,

Hare Krishna!

 

> I remember to have heard from guru ji ,The Mantra was reversed by

> Bhagwan Chaityna Mahaprabhu To make it useful to all people of the

> world.Without reversal it was meant to take one toward moksha.With

> reversal it is kali taran mantra also( it is a expansion of Janak

> shadakshari Mantra in essence).

 

Interesting. I have heard from Gopi Paranadhana that most versions of

Kali-santarana Upanisad give it starting with Hare Rama because usually

mantras are not stated directly in the sastra, normally they are coded

somehow or other and then guru reveals the true form.

 

Humbly,

Adi Purusha Das

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Om Namah Shivaya

 

Dear Rajarshi, Namaste

 

Kabir or Valmiki?

 

Rgds

Anand

 

On 4/21/08, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote:

> Also when u keep chanting something in the reverse, for consequetive chants

> the rhythms mixes with the main chant and then there is really not much

> difference between the main chant and the reverse chant.. specially in a

> mantra like this.. otherwise Kabir would not have attained enlightenment by

> chanting ma-ra instead of ra-ma..

>

> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: kleem namah narasimhaaya

> Dear RCS , Namaskar

>

> One idea is thats it is reversed for the foreigners (rahu). But still in

> India there are many Vaishnavas who are the followers of Chaitanya Bhagavata

> (where the mantra is written besides Kali Shantara Up.) and they are

> reciting in the reversed fashion. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu who was the

> chaya-avatara (SB 7 Canto) preached this kirtana as the most succesful

> method to achieve ultimate goal of life in Kaliyuga.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal

>

>

> R.C.Srivastava napisa & #322;(a):

> Dear friends,

> I remember to have heard from guru ji ,The Mantra was reversed by

> Bhagwan Chaityna Mahaprabhu To make it useful to all people of the

> world.Without reversal it was meant to take one toward moksha.With

> reversal it is kali taran mantra also( it is a expansion of Janak

> shadakshari Mantra in essence).

> So all friends are correct in their views but confusion is because

> of missing logic associated with it.

> Hope this settles issue.

> RCS

>

> , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...>

> wrote:

> >

> > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > Dear Bivash , Namaskar

> >

> > I think this was dictated by his inner feeling to help.Some inner

> voice

> > of mission. This is often early enthusiasm which force one to

> spread the

> > Guru message to everyone.

> >

> > Motive was innocent, but the tactic is far from gentle. Still its

> > auspicious.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal

> >

> >

> > Swee Chan napisał(a):

> > >

> > >

> > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal,

> > > Namaste

> > >

> > > At least thats the idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His

> followers.

> > >

> > > Thank you, exactly my expression, though I wonder why Bivash

> should

> > > suggest this when the original content of the mail has nothing

> to do

> > > with this.

> > >

> > > love,

> > >

> > > Swee

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On 19 Apr 2008, at 19:17, Rafal Gendarz wrote:

> > >>

> > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > >> Dear Swee , Namaskar

> > >>

> > >> No, this mantra should be recited on any stage. It has very

> strong

> > >> effect and for this corageous ones who are on the stage of

> karmayoga

> > >> even in grhasta asrama and engaged in 'material' duties this is

> the

> > >> strongest weapon in this kali age. We should not be lazy to

> recite

> > >> kaliyuga mantra as this is the risky proposition. At least

> thats the

> > >> idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His followers.

> > >>

> > >> Regards,

> > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > >> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com> /

> > >> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Swee Chan napisał(a):

> > >>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> Jaya Jagannatha

> > >>>

> > >>> Dear Bivash,

> > >>> Namaste

> > >>>

> > >>> In this material when one has to go about doing his/her social

> > >>> duties, the mahamantra is not the mantra to chant as taught by

> > >>> Sanjay ji. When you've reached the stage of retirement and you

> are

> > >>> ready to forsake your family and society should you consider

> the art

> > >>> of chanting the mahamantra.

> > >>>

> > >>> love,

> > >>>

> > >>> Swee

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> On 18 Apr 2008, at 08:03, Bivash Ramroop wrote:

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Om Brihaspataye Namah

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Dear Members,

> > >>>> Namaste

> > >>>>

> > >>>> For anyone interested in reading the Glories of Sri Krishna's

> Holy

> > >>>> Names as taught by Lord Caitanya and His disciples, a good

> book to

> > >>>> read is the " Art of Chanting Hare Krishna " by HH Mahanidhi

> Swami.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> It is a good book to read to add to your perspective! Enjoy!

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Hare Krishna!

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Swee Chan <swee@>

> > >>>> <swee@ > wrote:

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > Jaya Jagannatha

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > My Dear JK,

> > >>>> > Namaste

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > How have you been keeping? In reply to your query below,

> your

> > >>>> > assumption is correct (less the vowels) if katapayadi is

> the

> > >>>> issue

> > >>>> > here but not in this case and so the syllabic count in this

> case

> > >>>> is two.

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > And so, it has been said: Once you call out any of the two

> > >>>> syllabic

> > >>>> > names, HIS name will never leave your lips. I guess I can

> vouch

> > >>>> for

> > >>>> > that )

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > love,

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > Swee

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > On 16 Apr 2008, at 08:11, jk.dasgupta wrote:

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Dear Swee,

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Namaste.

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Krishna & Vishnu should be 3 syllable.

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Kri+sh+na & Vi+sh+nu

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Am I right?

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > jk

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>

> > >>>> > > [srijagannat h

> > >>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>]On Behalf Of Swee Chan

> > >>>> > > Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:17 AM

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>

> > >>>> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and

> respected

> > >>>> > > Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy)

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Dear Visti,

> > >>>> > > Namaste

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Agree on most points except that as far as I am told and

> > >>>> believe,

> > >>>> > > the two syllabic mantras which have the most potencies

> are:

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Shi-va, Krish-na, Vish-nu )

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Hence one word and the lagna becomes the source and the

> > >>>> strengths

> > >>>> > > and energies are shifted to the second house.

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Thanks for the exchange.

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > love,

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Swee

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > On 14 Apr 2008, at 20:05, Visti Larsen wrote:

> > >>>> > >> à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•

> à ¥Æ'à ¤·à ¥ à ¤£

> > >>>> > >> Dear Swee, Namaskar.

> > >>>> > >> Glad to be typing with you.

> > >>>> > >> I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-

> kriya, -

> > >>>> bhoga

> > >>>> > >> and -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-

> astakshari.

> > >>>> > >> Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we

> first

> > >>>> > >> have to identify the source of the problem first, viz.:

> If

> > >>>> Surya

> > >>>> > >> is a problem then the atma itself is suffering and

> therefore

> > >>>> Shiva

> > >>>> > >> mantras are necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at

> its core

> > >>>> an

> > >>>> > >> unfulfilled desire for wealth is likely to cause the

> problem

> > >>>> and

> > >>>> > >> Vishnu will bless the native to overcome this problem.

> Like

> > >>>> this

> > >>>> > >> we can continue.

> > >>>> > >>

> > >>>> > >> Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive

> their

> > >>>> energy

> > >>>> > >> from the third house, a house which rules our hands and

> > >>>> therefore

> > >>>> > >> the first act of karma. If malefics are causing the

> problem,

> > >>>> it

> > >>>> > >> would be a good idea to choose mantras which have the

> same

> > >>>> number

> > >>>> > >> of words as the house where the malefic is posited. I.e.

> for

> > >>>> > >> malefics in the fourth house, it would be advisable to

> choose

> > >>>> > >> mantras consisting of four words.

> > >>>> > >>

> > >>>> > >> If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house

> of

> > >>>> Ripu.

> > >>>> > >> Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu

> mantra:

> > >>>> om

> > >>>> > >> vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the

> number of

> > >>>> > >> aksharas coincide with is the house of focus and where

> the

> > >>>> fruits

> > >>>> > >> will be felt.

> > >>>> > >> The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the

> > >>>> > >> intelligence of the Devata is experienced. So if a

> problem is

> > >>>> that

> > >>>> > >> the native isn't thinking propperly to begin with, then

> > >>>> mantras

> > >>>> > >> where the mantra-devata sits on the first house are

> necessary.

> > >>>> > >> Some excellent ones for Vishnu and Narayana are:

> > >>>> > >> om namo naaraayanaaya

> > >>>> > >> vyam vyasadevaaya namah

> > >>>> > >> om vasudevaaya namah

> > >>>> > >> kliiM vasudevaaya namah

> > >>>> > >>

> > >>>> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > >>>> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > >>>> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>

> > >>>> > >> @: visti@

> > >>>> > >>

> > >>>> > >> swee@ skrev:

> > >>>> > >>

> > >>>> > >>>

> > >>>> > >>> Jaya Jagannatha

> > >>>> > >>>

> > >>>> > >>> Dear Visti,

> > >>>> > >>> Namaste

> > >>>> > >>>

> > >>>> > >>> Thank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is

> > >>>> merely

> > >>>> > >>> based on

> > >>>> > >>> planetary placement - which in this case is the 6th

> house. So

> > >>>> we

> > >>>> > >>> should be

> > >>>> > >>> looking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that

> ripu. In

> > >>>> the

> > >>>> > >>> case of

> > >>>> > >>> Mithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and

> aspects

> > >>>> the

> > >>>> > >>> 8th, 11th

> > >>>> > >>> and 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case,

> does

> > >>>> > >>> nothing for

> > >>>> > >>> the lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with

> its

> > >>>> lord

> > >>>> > >>> placement.

> > >>>> > >>> What about the number of words? Not important?

> > >>>> > >>> love,

> > >>>> > >>>

> > >>>> > >>> Swee

> > >>>> > >>>

> > >>>> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> > >>>> > >>> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> > >>>> > >>> > If a person has planets in the sixth then they are

> > >>>> succombing

> > >>>> > >>> to ripus.

> > >>>> > >>> > The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the

> > >>>> Narayana

> > >>>> > >>> mantra

> > >>>> > >>> > will keep the person in check and help them during

> this

> > >>>> dasa. This

> > >>>> > >>> > should be started from a Sunday.

> > >>>> > >>> > There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya

> mantra

> > >>>> > >>> during this

> > >>>> > >>> > time either, but if the problem is ripus then

> Narayana

> > >>>> mantra

> > >>>> > >>> is very

> > >>>> > >>> > much advised.

> > >>>> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > >>>> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > >>>> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>

> > >>>> > >>> > @: visti@

> > >>>> > >>> >

> > >>>> > >>> > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> > >>>> > >>> >> Dear Visti,

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly

> clear

> > >>>> now.

> > >>>> > >>> Specially

> > >>>> > >>> >> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has

> mithun

> > >>>> lagna

> > >>>> > >>> and

> > >>>> > >>> >> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is

> undergoing

> > >>>> > >>> vimsottari

> > >>>> > >>> >> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering

> some

> > >>>> > >>> porblems as

> > >>>> > >>> >> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN

> mantra? And

> > >>>> what

> > >>>> > >>> would

> > >>>> > >>> >> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday?

> Since budh

> > >>>> is

> > >>>> > >>> the

> > >>>> > >>> >> afflicting planet?

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked

> to

> > >>>> chant any

> > >>>> > >>> >> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him?

> For

> > >>>> example

> > >>>> > >>> can

> > >>>> > >>> >> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native

> for health

> > >>>> > >>> >> protection?

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >> -Thanks a lot in advance

> > >>>> > >>> >> Rajarshi

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >> */Visti Larsen <visti@> <visti@ >/ * wrote:

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >> ??? ??? ?????

> > >>>> > >>> >> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> > >>>> > >>> >> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome

> problems

> > >>>> > >>> based on

> > >>>> > >>> >> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-

> > >>>> shanibhyam

> > >>>> > >>> >> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the

> problems

> > >>>> of

> > >>>> > >>> 6th,

> > >>>> > >>> >> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the

> worship

> > >>>> of

> > >>>> > >>> >> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both.

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or

> Mantra-

> > >>>> bhoga is

> > >>>> > >>> >> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from

> the

> > >>>> third

> > >>>> > >>> >> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha)

> on

> > >>>> the

> > >>>> > >>> lagna,

> > >>>> > >>> >> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the

> same

> > >>>> distance

> > >>>> > >>> >> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So

> this

> > >>>> mantra

> > >>>> > >>> >> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural

> bhava

> > >>>> making

> > >>>> > >>> the

> > >>>> > >>> >> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character,

> etc.

> > >>>> And it

> > >>>> > >>> >> does so by solving the issues in career (10th),

> ripus (6th),

> > >>>> > >>> >> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th).

> > >>>> > >>> >> These steps have been described in VRA.

> > >>>> > >>> >> Hope this helps.

> > >>>> > >>> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > >>>> > >>> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > >>>> > >>> >> www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>

> > >>>> > >>> >> @: visti@

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >> swee@ skrev:

> > >>>> > >>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha

> > >>>> > >>> >>>

> > >>>> > >>> >>> Dear Rajarshi

> > >>>> > >>> >>> Namaste

> > >>>> > >>> >>>

> > >>>> > >>> >>> Will attempt this answer below:

> > >>>> > >>> >>>

> > >>>> > >>> >>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with " om namah

> narayanaya " .

> > >>>> the

> > >>>> > >>> >>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual

> energy

> > >>>> is

> > >>>> > >>> 8th

> > >>>> > >>> >>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is

> 5th

> > >>>> from the

> > >>>> > >>> >>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that

> the

> > >>>> effect of a

> > >>>> > >>> >>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing

> the

> > >>>> number of

> > >>>> > >>> >>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should

> count the

> > >>>> > >>> >>> difference between the source and destination house

> and

> > >>>> add the

> > >>>> > >>> >>> same from the

> > >>>> > >>> >>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So

> which

> > >>>> is the

> > >>>> > >>> >>> correct method?

> > >>>> > >>> >>>

> > >>>> > >>> >>> -Thanks in advance

> > >>>> > >>> >>> Rajarshi

> > >>>> > >>> >>>

> > >>>> > >>> >>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the

> 3rd

> > >>>> house. Om

> > >>>> > >>> >>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where

> the

> > >>>> spiritual

> > >>>> > >>> >>> energy emanates

> > >>>> > >>> >>> from. (Count from the third house and you will

> arrive at

> > >>>> the

> > >>>> > >>> >>> tenth.) So

> > >>>> > >>> >>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional

> > >>>> > >>> >>> issues.Incidentally , Markandeya Muni recited the

> same and

> > >>>> > >>> >>> survived Yama's snatch

> > >>>> > >>> >>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years

> (Narasimha

> > >>>> > >>> >>> Upapurana).

> > >>>> > >>> >>> love,

> > >>>> > >>> >>>

> > >>>> > >>> >>> Swee

> > >>>> > >>> >>>

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >> /*

> > >>>> > >>> >> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam*

> > >>>> > >>> >> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam

> ||*

> > >>>> > >>> >> */

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---------

> > >>>> --------- -

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Dear Anand, You are right, it was rishi Valmiki of course. My mistake. -Regards RajarshiAnand Ravi <anandravi8 wrote: Om Namah ShivayaDear Rajarshi, NamasteKabir or Valmiki?RgdsAnandOn 4/21/08, rajarshi nandy wrote:> Also when u keep chanting something in the reverse, for consequetive chants> the rhythms mixes with the main chant and then there is really not much> difference between the main chant and the reverse chant.. specially in a> mantra like this.. otherwise Kabir would not have attained enlightenment by> chanting ma-ra instead of ra-ma..>> Rafal Gendarz wrote: kleem namah narasimhaaya> Dear RCS ,

Namaskar>> One idea is thats it is reversed for the foreigners (rahu). But still in> India there are many Vaishnavas who are the followers of Chaitanya Bhagavata> (where the mantra is written besides Kali Shantara Up.) and they are> reciting in the reversed fashion. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu who was the> chaya-avatara (SB 7 Canto) preached this kirtana as the most succesful> method to achieve ultimate goal of life in Kaliyuga.>> Regards,> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal>> R.C.Srivastava napisał(a):> Dear friends,> I remember to have heard from guru ji ,The Mantra was reversed by> Bhagwan Chaityna Mahaprabhu To make it useful to all people of the> world.Without reversal it was meant to take one toward moksha.With> reversal it is kali taran mantra also( it is a expansion of Janak>

shadakshari Mantra in essence).> So all friends are correct in their views but confusion is because> of missing logic associated with it.> Hope this settles issue.> RCS>> , Rafal Gendarz > wrote:> >> > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > Dear Bivash , Namaskar> >> > I think this was dictated by his inner feeling to help.Some inner> voice> > of mission. This is often early enthusiasm which force one to> spread the> > Guru message to everyone.> >> > Motive was innocent, but the tactic is far from gentle. Still its> > auspicious.> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal >> >> > Swee Chan napisał(a):> > >> > >>

> > Jaya Jagannatha> > >> > >> > > Dear Rafal,> > > Namaste> > >> > > At least thats the idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His> followers.> > >> > > Thank you, exactly my expression, though I wonder why Bivash> should> > > suggest this when the original content of the mail has nothing> to do> > > with this.> > >> > > love,> > >> > > Swee> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On 19 Apr 2008, at 19:17, Rafal Gendarz wrote:> > >>> > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > >> Dear Swee , Namaskar> > >>> > >> No, this mantra should be recited on any stage. It has very> strong> > >> effect and for this corageous ones who

are on the stage of> karmayoga> > >> even in grhasta asrama and engaged in 'material' duties this is> the> > >> strongest weapon in this kali age. We should not be lazy to> recite> > >> kaliyuga mantra as this is the risky proposition. At least> thats the> > >> idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His followers.> > >>> > >> Regards,> > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > >> www: http://rohinaa. com /> > >> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> Swee Chan napisał(a):> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Jaya Jagannatha> > >>>> > >>> Dear Bivash,> > >>> Namaste>

> >>>> > >>> In this material when one has to go about doing his/her social> > >>> duties, the mahamantra is not the mantra to chant as taught by> > >>> Sanjay ji. When you've reached the stage of retirement and you> are> > >>> ready to forsake your family and society should you consider> the art> > >>> of chanting the mahamantra.> > >>>> > >>> love,> > >>>> > >>> Swee> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> On 18 Apr 2008, at 08:03, Bivash Ramroop wrote:> > >>>>> > >>>> Om Brihaspataye Namah> > >>>>> > >>>> Dear Members,> > >>>> Namaste> > >>>>> > >>>> For anyone interested in reading the

Glories of Sri Krishna's> Holy> > >>>> Names as taught by Lord Caitanya and His disciples, a good> book to> > >>>> read is the "Art of Chanting Hare Krishna" by HH Mahanidhi> Swami.> > >>>>> > >>>> It is a good book to read to add to your perspective! Enjoy!> > >>>>> > >>>> Hare Krishna!> > >>>>> > >>>> > > >>>> , Swee Chan > > >>>> wrote:> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Jaya Jagannatha> > >>>> >> > >>>> > My Dear JK,> > >>>> > Namaste> > >>>> >> >

>>>> > How have you been keeping? In reply to your query below,> your> > >>>> > assumption is correct (less the vowels) if katapayadi is> the> > >>>> issue> > >>>> > here but not in this case and so the syllabic count in this> case> > >>>> is two.> > >>>> >> > >>>> > And so, it has been said: Once you call out any of the two> > >>>> syllabic> > >>>> > names, HIS name will never leave your lips. I guess I can> vouch> > >>>> for> > >>>> > that )> > >>>> >> > >>>> > love,> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Swee> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >

On 16 Apr 2008, at 08:11, jk.dasgupta wrote:> > >>>> >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > > Dear Swee,> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > > Namaste.> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > > Krishna & Vishnu should be 3 syllable.> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > > Kri+sh+na & Vi+sh+nu> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > > Am I right?> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > > jk> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > >

>>>> > > [srijagannat h> > >>>> ]On Behalf Of Swee Chan> > >>>> > > Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:17 AM> > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and> respected> > >>>> > > Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy)> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > > Jaya Jagannatha> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > > Dear Visti,> > >>>> > > Namaste> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > > Agree on most points except that as far as I am told

and> > >>>> believe,> > >>>> > > the two syllabic mantras which have the most potencies> are:> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > > Shi-va, Krish-na, Vish-nu )> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > > Hence one word and the lagna becomes the source and the> > >>>> strengths> > >>>> > > and energies are shifted to the second house.> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > > Thanks for the exchange.> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > > love,> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > > Swee> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > > On 14 Apr 2008, at 20:05, Visti Larsen wrote:> >

>>>> > >> à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•> à ¥Æ'à ¤·à ¥ à ¤£> > >>>> > >> Dear Swee, Namaskar.> > >>>> > >> Glad to be typing with you.> > >>>> > >> I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-> kriya, -> > >>>> bhoga> > >>>> > >> and -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-> astakshari.> > >>>> > >> Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we> first> > >>>> > >> have to identify the source of the problem first, viz.:> If> > >>>> Surya> > >>>> > >> is a problem then the atma itself is suffering and> therefore> > >>>> Shiva> > >>>> > >> mantras are

necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at> its core> > >>>> an> > >>>> > >> unfulfilled desire for wealth is likely to cause the> problem> > >>>> and> > >>>> > >> Vishnu will bless the native to overcome this problem.> Like> > >>>> this> > >>>> > >> we can continue.> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >> Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive> their> > >>>> energy> > >>>> > >> from the third house, a house which rules our hands and> > >>>> therefore> > >>>> > >> the first act of karma. If malefics are causing the> problem,> > >>>> it> > >>>> > >> would be a good

idea to choose mantras which have the> same> > >>>> number> > >>>> > >> of words as the house where the malefic is posited. I.e.> for> > >>>> > >> malefics in the fourth house, it would be advisable to> choose> > >>>> > >> mantras consisting of four words.> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >> If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house> of> > >>>> Ripu.> > >>>> > >> Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu> mantra:> > >>>> om> > >>>> > >> vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the> number of> > >>>> > >> aksharas coincide with is the house of focus and where> the> > >>>>

fruits> > >>>> > >> will be felt.> > >>>> > >> The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the> > >>>> > >> intelligence of the Devata is experienced. So if a> problem is> > >>>> that> > >>>> > >> the native isn't thinking propperly to begin with, then> > >>>> mantras> > >>>> > >> where the mantra-devata sits on the first house are> necessary.> > >>>> > >> Some excellent ones for Vishnu and Narayana are:> > >>>> > >> om namo naaraayanaaya> > >>>> > >> vyam vyasadevaaya namah> > >>>> > >> om vasudevaaya namah> > >>>> > >> kliiM vasudevaaya namah> > >>>> > >>> >

>>>> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > >>>> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > >>>> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > > >>>> > >> @: visti@> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >> swee@ skrev:> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Jaya Jagannatha> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Dear Visti,> > >>>> > >>> Namaste> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Thank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is> > >>>> merely> > >>>> > >>> based on> >

>>>> > >>> planetary placement - which in this case is the 6th> house. So> > >>>> we> > >>>> > >>> should be> > >>>> > >>> looking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that> ripu. In> > >>>> the> > >>>> > >>> case of> > >>>> > >>> Mithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and> aspects> > >>>> the> > >>>> > >>> 8th, 11th> > >>>> > >>> and 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case,> does> > >>>> > >>> nothing for> > >>>> > >>> the lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with> its> > >>>> lord> > >>>> > >>>

placement.> > >>>> > >>> What about the number of words? Not important?> > >>>> > >>> love,> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Swee> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????> > >>>> > >>> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> > >>>> > >>> > If a person has planets in the sixth then they are> > >>>> succombing> > >>>> > >>> to ripus.> > >>>> > >>> > The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the> > >>>> Narayana> > >>>> > >>> mantra> > >>>> > >>> > will keep the person in check and help them during> this> >

>>>> dasa. This> > >>>> > >>> > should be started from a Sunday.> > >>>> > >>> > There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya> mantra> > >>>> > >>> during this> > >>>> > >>> > time either, but if the problem is ripus then> Narayana> > >>>> mantra> > >>>> > >>> is very> > >>>> > >>> > much advised.> > >>>> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > >>>> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > >>>> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com > > >>>> > >>> > @: visti@> > >>>> > >>> >> >

>>>> > >>> > rajarshi nandy skrev:> > >>>> > >>> >> Dear Visti,> > >>>> > >>> >>> > >>>> > >>> >> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly> clear> > >>>> now.> > >>>> > >>> Specially> > >>>> > >>> >> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has> mithun> > >>>> lagna> > >>>> > >>> and> > >>>> > >>> >> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is> undergoing> > >>>> > >>> vimsottari> > >>>> > >>> >> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering> some> > >>>> > >>> porblems as> >

>>>> > >>> >> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN> mantra? And> > >>>> what> > >>>> > >>> would> > >>>> > >>> >> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday?> Since budh> > >>>> is> > >>>> > >>> the> > >>>> > >>> >> afflicting planet?> > >>>> > >>> >>> > >>>> > >>> >> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked> to> > >>>> chant any> > >>>> > >>> >> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him?> For> > >>>> example> > >>>> > >>> can> > >>>> > >>> >> mahamiryuntjaya

mantra be adivced for this native> for health> > >>>> > >>> >> protection?> > >>>> > >>> >>> > >>>> > >>> >> -Thanks a lot in advance> > >>>> > >>> >> Rajarshi> > >>>> > >>> >>> > >>>> > >>> >> */Visti Larsen / * wrote:> > >>>> > >>> >>> > >>>> > >>> >> ??? ??? ?????> > >>>> > >>> >> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar.> > >>>> > >>> >> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome> problems> > >>>> > >>> based on> > >>>> > >>> >> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini

says: budha-> > >>>> shanibhyam> > >>>> > >>> >> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the> problems> > >>>> of> > >>>> > >>> 6th,> > >>>> > >>> >> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the> worship> > >>>> of> > >>>> > >>> >> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both.> > >>>> > >>> >>> > >>>> > >>> >> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or> Mantra-> > >>>> bhoga is> > >>>> > >>> >> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from> the> > >>>> third> > >>>> > >>> >> house. Therefore the

mantra-devata will sit (arudha)> on> > >>>> the> > >>>> > >>> lagna,> > >>>> > >>> >> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the> same> > >>>> distance> > >>>> > >>> >> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So> this> > >>>> mantra> > >>>> > >>> >> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural> bhava> > >>>> making> > >>>> > >>> the> > >>>> > >>> >> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character,> etc.> > >>>> And it> > >>>> > >>> >> does so by solving the issues in career (10th),> ripus (6th),> > >>>> >

>>> >> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th).> > >>>> > >>> >> These steps have been described in VRA.> > >>>> > >>> >> Hope this helps.> > >>>> > >>> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > >>>> > >>> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > >>>> > >>> >> www: http://srigaruda. com > > >>>> > >>> >> @: visti@> > >>>> > >>> >>> > >>>> > >>> >> swee@ skrev:> > >>>> > >>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha> > >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>> > >>> >>> Dear Rajarshi> > >>>> > >>>

>>> Namaste> > >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>> > >>> >>> Will attempt this answer below:> > >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>> > >>> >>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with "om namah> narayanaya".> > >>>> the> > >>>> > >>> >>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual> energy> > >>>> is> > >>>> > >>> 8th> > >>>> > >>> >>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is> 5th> > >>>> from the> > >>>> > >>> >>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that> the> > >>>> effect of a> > >>>> > >>>

>>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing> the> > >>>> number of> > >>>> > >>> >>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should> count the> > >>>> > >>> >>> difference between the source and destination house> and> > >>>> add the> > >>>> > >>> >>> same from the> > >>>> > >>> >>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So> which> > >>>> is the> > >>>> > >>> >>> correct method?> > >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>> > >>> >>> -Thanks in advance> > >>>> > >>> >>> Rajarshi> > >>>> > >>>

>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the> 3rd> > >>>> house. Om> > >>>> > >>> >>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where> the> > >>>> spiritual> > >>>> > >>> >>> energy emanates> > >>>> > >>> >>> from. (Count from the third house and you will> arrive at> > >>>> the> > >>>> > >>> >>> tenth.) So> > >>>> > >>> >>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional> > >>>> > >>> >>> issues.Incidentally , Markandeya Muni recited the> same and> > >>>> > >>> >>> survived Yama's snatch> >

>>>> > >>> >>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years> (Narasimha> > >>>> > >>> >>> Upapurana).> > >>>> > >>> >>> love,> > >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>> > >>> >>> Swee> > >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>> > >>> >>> > >>>> > >>> >>> > >>>> > >>> >>> > >>>> > >>> >> /*> > >>>> > >>> >> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam*> > >>>> > >>> >> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam> ||*> > >>>> > >>> >> */> >

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

IT's Valmiki who chanted ma-ra (because he forgot what had Maharishi Narada told

him to chant) and attained enlightenment and wrote Ramayana.

 

 

Just copying an article appeared in India times long time ago from OSHO.

 

Valmiki - The Great Transformation

 

Osho says: It has happened many times that a sinner has taken the jump in a

moment and has become a saint. It happened to Valmiki, an Indian saint, the

first to tell the story of Rama. Valmiki was a robber and a murderer, and in a

single moment the transformation happened. It has never happened like that to

any pundit - and India is a great country of pundit s: the brahmin s, the

scholars. You cannot compete with Indian scholars - they have a long heritage of

thousands of years, and they have lived on words and words and words. But it has

never happened that a scholar in a single moment took a jump, exploded, was

broken from the past and became totally new. It has never happened that way. But

it has happened many times with sinners, in a single moment, because deep down

they were never able to make arrangements in their ego with whatsoever they were

doing. Whatsoever they were doing was ego-shattering - and ego is the wall, the

stone wall.

 

Osho illustrates this point with the story of Valmiki who was a dacoit, a

robber. He was looting all kinds of people. One day he came across the mystic

Narada. Narada was singing on his one-stringed guitar, utterly lost in ecstasy,

passing through a jungle, and the robber caught hold of him. Narada continued

playing on his one-stringed guitar.

The robber's name is Balia; later on he became a great seer, Valmiki. He was the

first man to write the story of Rama.

 

Balia could not believe his eyes, because he had seen two types of people up to

then, up to that moment. One was the type who would start trembling, seeing the

strong man. He was a very strong man, and very dangerous and murderous. Just

seeing him there, the other would start trembling and collapse, would give all

that he had, voluntarily, to him. He had seen one kind was that, the coward, the

fearful. And the other kind was the brave, who would start fighting back. Either

the person would start running or the person would start fighting. Fight or

flight -- these had been his two experiences up to then about people.

 

But Narada did nothing. He was a third type. For the first time Balia had come

upon the third type. He continued playing on his musical instrument with the

same joy and the same ecstasy. Even Balia started feeling the joy, the vibe. And

Narada was dancing, and Balia also started dancing. And Balia said, " This is

strange. What are you doing to me? I am a robber and a murderer. I can kill you.

You should not trust me. "

But there was nobody to listen to him; the song continued, the music continued,

that celestial vibe continued. And then when Narada was finished with his music

he asked Balia, " What do you want? "

 

By this time a great change had happened. Balia said, " I would like to be as

ecstatic as you are. Can you help me? I don't want anything else. You are the

first man who is really rich. I have come across only beggars up to now - rich

beggars, poor beggars, but all beggars. You are the first man who is really

rich, and you have such richness that I cannot rob it. It is your inner

richness. Can I also have some glimpses like this? Is it possible for a murderer

like me, a robber like me, a sinner like me? What should I do? "

Narada said, " You do one thing: start chanting the name of Rama. "

Then Narada went, and Balia got really into it. He was a man of will, very

strong. He chanted day in, day out.

 

When you chant " Rama, Rama, Rama, Rama " continuously, when there is not much gap

between " Rama " and " Rama " , slowly, slowly you will start hearing " Mara, Mara,

Mara. " If you chant " Rama, Rama, Rama " continuously, the gestalt will change.

The " m " of the " Ram " will become joined with the " ra " of another " Ram " that is

following. Then it becomes " Mara, Mara. " Ram means God, Ram means the immortal

element, the eternal element; mara means death.

 

Balia was a very uneducated man, had never been in any kind of religious

education. He forgot all about Ram; slowly slowly he chanted only " Mara, Mara,

Mara. "

Months passed. Narada went back; he was surprised. Balia was chanting " Mara,

Mara, Mara " ; his whole body was chanting " Mara, Mara, Mara. " Narda could feel

from miles away the change that had happened to that jungle. It had a different

atmosphere. When he came closer and heard " Mara, Mara, " he was surprised because

this man has been chanting completely in a wrong way.

 

He came closer and saw Balia. The man was totally transformed. He was luminous -

the ecstasy had happened. It happened even by chanting a wrong mantra. Narada

kept quiet; he didn't say anything to him. There was no need, no point in

disturbing the poor man. He had arrived!

 

There is a Sufi saying that even a wrong means becomes right in the right

person's hand, and vice versa, even a right means becomes wrong in a wrong man's

hand. And it is so. The ultimate result depends on your heart, not on the means

used.

Osho adds: It is said that before Rama was born, a great poet, Valmiki, wrote

Rama's whole life; before he was born! And then Rama was born; he had to follow

Valmiki, because when such a great poet writes something, it has to be followed.

What else can you do? It may not have been so, but the story is beautiful. It

says that life is a drama: as if it has been written already and it is only

unfolding. "

 

 

Best Regards

Sonia

 

 

On

Behalf Of Anand Ravi

Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:28 AM

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Sri Sanjay Rath and respected Jyotish

Gurus (Vedic Remedy)

 

Om Namah Shivaya

 

Dear Rajarshi, Namaste

 

Kabir or Valmiki?

 

Rgds

Anand

 

On 4/21/08, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote:

> Also when u keep chanting something in the reverse, for consequetive chants

> the rhythms mixes with the main chant and then there is really not much

> difference between the main chant and the reverse chant.. specially in a

> mantra like this.. otherwise Kabir would not have attained enlightenment by

> chanting ma-ra instead of ra-ma..

>

> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: kleem namah narasimhaaya

> Dear RCS , Namaskar

>

> One idea is thats it is reversed for the foreigners (rahu). But still in

> India there are many Vaishnavas who are the followers of Chaitanya Bhagavata

> (where the mantra is written besides Kali Shantara Up.) and they are

> reciting in the reversed fashion. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu who was the

> chaya-avatara (SB 7 Canto) preached this kirtana as the most succesful

> method to achieve ultimate goal of life in Kaliyuga.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal

>

>

> R.C.Srivastava napisa & #322;(a):

> Dear friends,

> I remember to have heard from guru ji ,The Mantra was reversed by

> Bhagwan Chaityna Mahaprabhu To make it useful to all people of the

> world.Without reversal it was meant to take one toward moksha.With

> reversal it is kali taran mantra also( it is a expansion of Janak

> shadakshari Mantra in essence).

> So all friends are correct in their views but confusion is because

> of missing logic associated with it.

> Hope this settles issue.

> RCS

>

> , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...>

> wrote:

> >

> > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > Dear Bivash , Namaskar

> >

> > I think this was dictated by his inner feeling to help.Some inner

> voice

> > of mission. This is often early enthusiasm which force one to

> spread the

> > Guru message to everyone.

> >

> > Motive was innocent, but the tactic is far from gentle. Still its

> > auspicious.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal

> >

> >

> > Swee Chan napisał(a):

> > >

> > >

> > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal,

> > > Namaste

> > >

> > > At least thats the idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His

> followers.

> > >

> > > Thank you, exactly my expression, though I wonder why Bivash

> should

> > > suggest this when the original content of the mail has nothing

> to do

> > > with this.

> > >

> > > love,

> > >

> > > Swee

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On 19 Apr 2008, at 19:17, Rafal Gendarz wrote:

> > >>

> > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > >> Dear Swee , Namaskar

> > >>

> > >> No, this mantra should be recited on any stage. It has very

> strong

> > >> effect and for this corageous ones who are on the stage of

> karmayoga

> > >> even in grhasta asrama and engaged in 'material' duties this is

> the

> > >> strongest weapon in this kali age. We should not be lazy to

> recite

> > >> kaliyuga mantra as this is the risky proposition. At least

> thats the

> > >> idea of Prabhupada and the ones who are His followers.

> > >>

> > >> Regards,

> > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > >> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com> /

> > >> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Swee Chan napisał(a):

> > >>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> Jaya Jagannatha

> > >>>

> > >>> Dear Bivash,

> > >>> Namaste

> > >>>

> > >>> In this material when one has to go about doing his/her social

> > >>> duties, the mahamantra is not the mantra to chant as taught by

> > >>> Sanjay ji. When you've reached the stage of retirement and you

> are

> > >>> ready to forsake your family and society should you consider

> the art

> > >>> of chanting the mahamantra.

> > >>>

> > >>> love,

> > >>>

> > >>> Swee

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> On 18 Apr 2008, at 08:03, Bivash Ramroop wrote:

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Om Brihaspataye Namah

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Dear Members,

> > >>>> Namaste

> > >>>>

> > >>>> For anyone interested in reading the Glories of Sri Krishna's

> Holy

> > >>>> Names as taught by Lord Caitanya and His disciples, a good

> book to

> > >>>> read is the " Art of Chanting Hare Krishna " by HH Mahanidhi

> Swami.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> It is a good book to read to add to your perspective! Enjoy!

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Hare Krishna!

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Swee Chan <swee@>

> > >>>> <swee@ > wrote:

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > Jaya Jagannatha

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > My Dear JK,

> > >>>> > Namaste

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > How have you been keeping? In reply to your query below,

> your

> > >>>> > assumption is correct (less the vowels) if katapayadi is

> the

> > >>>> issue

> > >>>> > here but not in this case and so the syllabic count in this

> case

> > >>>> is two.

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > And so, it has been said: Once you call out any of the two

> > >>>> syllabic

> > >>>> > names, HIS name will never leave your lips. I guess I can

> vouch

> > >>>> for

> > >>>> > that )

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > love,

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > Swee

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > On 16 Apr 2008, at 08:11, jk.dasgupta wrote:

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Dear Swee,

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Namaste.

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Krishna & Vishnu should be 3 syllable.

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Kri+sh+na & Vi+sh+nu

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Am I right?

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > jk

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>

> > >>>> > > [srijagannat h

> > >>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>]On Behalf Of Swee Chan

> > >>>> > > Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:17 AM

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>

> > >>>> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Sri Sanjay Rath and

> respected

> > >>>> > > Jyotish Gurus (Vedic Remedy)

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Dear Visti,

> > >>>> > > Namaste

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Agree on most points except that as far as I am told and

> > >>>> believe,

> > >>>> > > the two syllabic mantras which have the most potencies

> are:

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Shi-va, Krish-na, Vish-nu )

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Hence one word and the lagna becomes the source and the

> > >>>> strengths

> > >>>> > > and energies are shifted to the second house.

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Thanks for the exchange.

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > love,

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > Swee

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > >

> > >>>> > > On 14 Apr 2008, at 20:05, Visti Larsen wrote:

> > >>>> > >> à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾Ã

¤Â® à ¤•

> à ¥Æ'à ¤·à ¥ à ¤£

> > >>>> > >> Dear Swee, Namaskar.

> > >>>> > >> Glad to be typing with you.

> > >>>> > >> I was disagreeing with your calculations of mantra-

> kriya, -

> > >>>> bhoga

> > >>>> > >> and -devata and clarifying the impact of the Naryana-

> astakshari.

> > >>>> > >> Figuring the words and aksharas is the second step as we

> first

> > >>>> > >> have to identify the source of the problem first, viz.:

> If

> > >>>> Surya

> > >>>> > >> is a problem then the atma itself is suffering and

> therefore

> > >>>> Shiva

> > >>>> > >> mantras are necessary. If Mercury is a problem then at

> its core

> > >>>> an

> > >>>> > >> unfulfilled desire for wealth is likely to cause the

> problem

> > >>>> and

> > >>>> > >> Vishnu will bless the native to overcome this problem.

> Like

> > >>>> this

> > >>>> > >> we can continue.

> > >>>> > >>

> > >>>> > >> Some of the best mantras have 3 words as they derive

> their

> > >>>> energy

> > >>>> > >> from the third house, a house which rules our hands and

> > >>>> therefore

> > >>>> > >> the first act of karma. If malefics are causing the

> problem,

> > >>>> it

> > >>>> > >> would be a good idea to choose mantras which have the

> same

> > >>>> number

> > >>>> > >> of words as the house where the malefic is posited. I.e.

> for

> > >>>> > >> malefics in the fourth house, it would be advisable to

> choose

> > >>>> > >> mantras consisting of four words.

> > >>>> > >>

> > >>>> > >> If it is six aksharas then it will purify the six house

> of

> > >>>> Ripu.

> > >>>> > >> Therefore in the given example the shadakshari Vishnu

> mantra:

> > >>>> om

> > >>>> > >> vishnave namah| is applicable. Whichever house the

> number of

> > >>>> > >> aksharas coincide with is the house of focus and where

> the

> > >>>> fruits

> > >>>> > >> will be felt.

> > >>>> > >> The resultant place of the Mantra-devata shows where the

> > >>>> > >> intelligence of the Devata is experienced. So if a

> problem is

> > >>>> that

> > >>>> > >> the native isn't thinking propperly to begin with, then

> > >>>> mantras

> > >>>> > >> where the mantra-devata sits on the first house are

> necessary.

> > >>>> > >> Some excellent ones for Vishnu and Narayana are:

> > >>>> > >> om namo naaraayanaaya

> > >>>> > >> vyam vyasadevaaya namah

> > >>>> > >> om vasudevaaya namah

> > >>>> > >> kliiM vasudevaaya namah

> > >>>> > >>

> > >>>> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > >>>> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > >>>> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>

> > >>>> > >> @: visti@

> > >>>> > >>

> > >>>> > >> swee@ skrev:

> > >>>> > >>

> > >>>> > >>>

> > >>>> > >>> Jaya Jagannatha

> > >>>> > >>>

> > >>>> > >>> Dear Visti,

> > >>>> > >>> Namaste

> > >>>> > >>>

> > >>>> > >>> Thank you for your insight. What you are agreeing to is

> > >>>> merely

> > >>>> > >>> based on

> > >>>> > >>> planetary placement - which in this case is the 6th

> house. So

> > >>>> we

> > >>>> > >>> should be

> > >>>> > >>> looking at the mantra of 6 aksharas to cleanse that

> ripu. In

> > >>>> the

> > >>>> > >>> case of

> > >>>> > >>> Mithuna lagna, Buddha in 6th house is co-lorded and

> aspects

> > >>>> the

> > >>>> > >>> 8th, 11th

> > >>>> > >>> and 2nd. The 8 akshara in your reasoning in this case,

> does

> > >>>> > >>> nothing for

> > >>>> > >>> the lagna as the lagna lord does not rasi drishti with

> its

> > >>>> lord

> > >>>> > >>> placement.

> > >>>> > >>> What about the number of words? Not important?

> > >>>> > >>> love,

> > >>>> > >>>

> > >>>> > >>> Swee

> > >>>> > >>>

> > >>>> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> > >>>> > >>> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> > >>>> > >>> > If a person has planets in the sixth then they are

> > >>>> succombing

> > >>>> > >>> to ripus.

> > >>>> > >>> > The dasas of these will bring these to fore. Yes, the

> > >>>> Narayana

> > >>>> > >>> mantra

> > >>>> > >>> > will keep the person in check and help them during

> this

> > >>>> dasa. This

> > >>>> > >>> > should be started from a Sunday.

> > >>>> > >>> > There is nothing wrong with advising the Mrtyunjaya

> mantra

> > >>>> > >>> during this

> > >>>> > >>> > time either, but if the problem is ripus then

> Narayana

> > >>>> mantra

> > >>>> > >>> is very

> > >>>> > >>> > much advised.

> > >>>> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > >>>> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > >>>> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>

> > >>>> > >>> > @: visti@

> > >>>> > >>> >

> > >>>> > >>> > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> > >>>> > >>> >> Dear Visti,

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >> Thanks a lot for the explanation. It is perfectly

> clear

> > >>>> now.

> > >>>> > >>> Specially

> > >>>> > >>> >> about the pratyadi devata part. So if someone has

> mithun

> > >>>> lagna

> > >>>> > >>> and

> > >>>> > >>> >> lagnesh is in 6th house with venus, and he is

> undergoing

> > >>>> > >>> vimsottari

> > >>>> > >>> >> dasa/antardasa of mercury (lagnesh) and suffering

> some

> > >>>> > >>> porblems as

> > >>>> > >>> >> well,, can I advice him to chant this NARAYAN

> mantra? And

> > >>>> what

> > >>>> > >>> would

> > >>>> > >>> >> be teh best day to start this mantra? Wednesday?

> Since budh

> > >>>> is

> > >>>> > >>> the

> > >>>> > >>> >> afflicting planet?

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >> Also in this particluar case, if the native is asked

> to

> > >>>> chant any

> > >>>> > >>> >> mantra related to shukra , will it be bad for him?

> For

> > >>>> example

> > >>>> > >>> can

> > >>>> > >>> >> mahamiryuntjaya mantra be adivced for this native

> for health

> > >>>> > >>> >> protection?

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >> -Thanks a lot in advance

> > >>>> > >>> >> Rajarshi

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >> */Visti Larsen <visti@> <visti@ >/ * wrote:

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >> ??? ??? ?????

> > >>>> > >>> >> Dear Swee and Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> > >>>> > >>> >> Pratyadhi devata mantras are advised to overcome

> problems

> > >>>> > >>> based on

> > >>>> > >>> >> the bhava-karaka. Therefore when Jaimini says: budha-

> > >>>> shanibhyam

> > >>>> > >>> >> naaraayaNabhaktiH| It means that we can solve the

> problems

> > >>>> of

> > >>>> > >>> 6th,

> > >>>> > >>> >> 8th, 12th (shani) and tenth (budha) houses with the

> worship

> > >>>> of

> > >>>> > >>> >> Narayana as he is the Pratyadhi devata of both.

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >> Because the mantra is eight aksharas its focus or

> Mantra-

> > >>>> bhoga is

> > >>>> > >>> >> on the eighth house from LAGNA. Not the eighth from

> the

> > >>>> third

> > >>>> > >>> >> house. Therefore the mantra-devata will sit (arudha)

> on

> > >>>> the

> > >>>> > >>> lagna,

> > >>>> > >>> >> viz: count from third to eighth and then count the

> same

> > >>>> distance

> > >>>> > >>> >> therefrom and you will arrive at the first house. So

> this

> > >>>> mantra

> > >>>> > >>> >> places Narayana on the Lagna which is his natural

> bhava

> > >>>> making

> > >>>> > >>> the

> > >>>> > >>> >> mantra prasiddha and protects intellect, character,

> etc.

> > >>>> And it

> > >>>> > >>> >> does so by solving the issues in career (10th),

> ripus (6th),

> > >>>> > >>> >> dusthakarma (8th) and meditation (12th).

> > >>>> > >>> >> These steps have been described in VRA.

> > >>>> > >>> >> Hope this helps.

> > >>>> > >>> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > >>>> > >>> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > >>>> > >>> >> www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>

> > >>>> > >>> >> @: visti@

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >> swee@ skrev:

> > >>>> > >>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha

> > >>>> > >>> >>>

> > >>>> > >>> >>> Dear Rajarshi

> > >>>> > >>> >>> Namaste

> > >>>> > >>> >>>

> > >>>> > >>> >>> Will attempt this answer below:

> > >>>> > >>> >>>

> > >>>> > >>> >>> 2)Also it is mentioned that as with " om namah

> narayanaya " .

> > >>>> the

> > >>>> > >>> >>> source is the 3rd house, the focus of the spiritual

> energy

> > >>>> is

> > >>>> > >>> 8th

> > >>>> > >>> >>> house (8 aksharas) and the effect of the mantra is

> 5th

> > >>>> from the

> > >>>> > >>> >>> 8th house, i.e. 12th house. So does it mean that

> the

> > >>>> effect of a

> > >>>> > >>> >>> mantra is always fifth from the house representing

> the

> > >>>> number of

> > >>>> > >>> >>> aksharas? I had read in an article that we should

> count the

> > >>>> > >>> >>> difference between the source and destination house

> and

> > >>>> add the

> > >>>> > >>> >>> same from the

> > >>>> > >>> >>> destination house to find where the devata sits. So

> which

> > >>>> is the

> > >>>> > >>> >>> correct method?

> > >>>> > >>> >>>

> > >>>> > >>> >>> -Thanks in advance

> > >>>> > >>> >>> Rajarshi

> > >>>> > >>> >>>

> > >>>> > >>> >>> Tne mantra has three words - hence source is the

> 3rd

> > >>>> house. Om

> > >>>> > >>> >>> Namo Narayanaya is an eight syllabic mantra where

> the

> > >>>> spiritual

> > >>>> > >>> >>> energy emanates

> > >>>> > >>> >>> from. (Count from the third house and you will

> arrive at

> > >>>> the

> > >>>> > >>> >>> tenth.) So

> > >>>> > >>> >>> this mantra protects the kendra and professional

> > >>>> > >>> >>> issues.Incidentally , Markandeya Muni recited the

> same and

> > >>>> > >>> >>> survived Yama's snatch

> > >>>> > >>> >>> at aged 16 and lived on for hundreds more years

> (Narasimha

> > >>>> > >>> >>> Upapurana).

> > >>>> > >>> >>> love,

> > >>>> > >>> >>>

> > >>>> > >>> >>> Swee

> > >>>> > >>> >>>

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >>

> > >>>> > >>> >> /*

> > >>>> > >>> >> *Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam*

> > >>>> > >>> >> *** Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam

> ||*

> > >>>> > >>> >> */

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