Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. Please do not make it a habbit to write in capitols as it will be interpreted as shouting. Moon is Mana-karaka only, and the strength of the other planets does not speak of the mind as one can have a great career or finances, but still lack happiness or suffer from mental problems. So Moon is the focus for the mind, and everything else are just excuses for the mind to be happy or sad. Here the Moon itself is the most important as it gathers impressions from the world around us, through which it decides what it likes or not. The working of the mind is seen from the fourth house, where we see the minds pre-disposition due to experiences of childhood... i.e. based on what its experienced - how is the mind affected. Mantra is the most important. Mana traya iti mantra. The mantra protects the mind, and this is seen from the fifth house - second from the fourth. A weakness here shows the persons mind is unprotected and the person cannot control the impressions they receive from the world. In worst case this can make the person hear voices, or even see things which are not real... This extreme requires a malefic association of Rahu and one more malefic on the fifth lord, and further a similar problem with Jupiter. Hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti prathoshg skrev: Hare Krishna Dear Vistiji When we say Depression we can say every person will face depression once atleast in life but this depression sometimes become unbearable and so severe that it takes a person to level of suicide be it whoever they may be rich or poor or actress or actor or any one now my question is SOME PEOPLE IF THEY FAIL IN EXAM THEY SUICIDE SOME PEOPLE IF THEY GET REJECTED IN LOVE OR IN JOB THEY SUICIDE SOME EVEN IF THEY HAVE 100 PROB SURVIVE NOW OUT OF THIS 3 THINGS HOW DO WE CATEGORISE IF U SAY ITS STRENGTH OF MIND THEN AGAIN THERE COMES A DOUBT IF MOON IS KARAKA FOR MIND THEN ONLY IF MOON IS STRONG AND OTHER 8 PLANETS WEAK STILL CAN WE SURVIVE ????? IF NO THEN WHETHER IF 8 PLANETS ARE WEAK WHETHER THEY WILL AFFECT OUR BRAIN BY THOUGHTS WHICH ARE PAINFUL HURTFUL WORRYFUL AND GRIEF IF YES THEN WHY MOON IS KARAKA FOR MIND? ALL 9 GRAHAS SHD BE KARAKA FOR MIND RIGHT ?????/ BEC ALL GRAHAS HAVE EQUAL SHARE IN CONTROLLING MIND OF PERSON WHY IS MOON GIVEN STATUS PLS ANSWER KINDLY THANKING U PRATHOSH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Dear Visti, Sorry for interupting the conversation. Very beautiful expression you have written in the mail regarding how one proceses the information. So would the fifth lord's association with rahu and another malefic(shani/mars) be sufficient reason for someone to have problems of schizophrenic nature, like hearing voices and sights etc etc. Also the jupiter needs to be weak in such a case? And if malefics are in trines to moon or AK that can indicate depression? -Regards Rajarshi हरे राम कृष्णDear Pratosh, Namaskar.Please do not make it a habbit to write in capitols as it will be interpreted as shouting.Moon is Mana-karaka only, and the strength of the other planets does not speak of the mind as one can have a great career or finances, but still lack happiness or suffer from mental problems. So Moon is the focus for the mind, and everything else are just excuses for the mind to be happy or sad.Here the Moon itself is the most important as it gathers impressions from the world around us, through which it decides what it likes or not. The working of the mind is seen from the fourth house, where we see the minds pre-disposition due to experiences of childhood... i.e. based on what its experienced - how is the mind affected.Mantra is the most important. Mana traya iti mantra. The mantra protects the mind, and this is seen from the fifth house - second from the fourth. A weakness here shows the persons mind is unprotected and the person cannot control the impressions they receive from the world. In worst case this can make the person hear voices, or even see things which are not real... This extreme requires a malefic association of Rahu and one more malefic on the fifth lord, and further a similar problem with Jupiter.Hope this helps.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com prathoshg skrev: Hare Krishna Dear VistijiWhen we say Depression we can say every person will face depression once atleast in lifebut this depression sometimes become unbearable and so severe that it takes a person to level of suicide be it whoever they may be rich or poor or actress or actor or any one now my question is SOME PEOPLE IF THEY FAIL IN EXAM THEY SUICIDE SOME PEOPLE IF THEY GET REJECTED IN LOVE OR IN JOB THEY SUICIDESOME EVEN IF THEY HAVE 100 PROB SURVIVENOW OUT OF THIS 3 THINGSHOW DO WE CATEGORISEIF U SAY ITS STRENGTH OF MIND THEN AGAIN THERE COMES A DOUBTIF MOON IS KARAKA FOR MINDTHEN ONLY IF MOON IS STRONG AND OTHER 8 PLANETS WEAK STILL CAN WE SURVIVE ?????IF NO THEN WHETHER IF 8 PLANETS ARE WEAK WHETHER THEY WILL AFFECT OUR BRAIN BY THOUGHTS WHICH ARE PAINFUL HURTFUL WORRYFUL AND GRIEF IF YESTHEN WHY MOON IS KARAKA FOR MIND?ALL 9 GRAHAS SHD BE KARAKA FOR MIND RIGHT ?????/BEC ALL GRAHAS HAVE EQUAL SHARE IN CONTROLLING MIND OF PERSON WHY IS MOON GIVEN STATUS PLS ANSWER KINDLYTHANKING UPRATHOSH Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. One malefic is never enough - two is more than enough. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Sorry for interupting the conversation. Very beautiful expression you have written in the mail regarding how one proceses the information. So would the fifth lord's association with rahu and another malefic(shani/mars) be sufficient reason for someone to have problems of schizophrenic nature, like hearing voices and sights etc etc. Also the jupiter needs to be weak in such a case? And if malefics are in trines to moon or AK that can indicate depression? -Regards Rajarshi हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. Please do not make it a habbit to write in capitols as it will be interpreted as shouting. Moon is Mana-karaka only, and the strength of the other planets does not speak of the mind as one can have a great career or finances, but still lack happiness or suffer from mental problems. So Moon is the focus for the mind, and everything else are just excuses for the mind to be happy or sad. Here the Moon itself is the most important as it gathers impressions from the world around us, through which it decides what it likes or not. The working of the mind is seen from the fourth house, where we see the minds pre-disposition due to experiences of childhood... i.e. based on what its experienced - how is the mind affected. Mantra is the most important. Mana traya iti mantra. The mantra protects the mind, and this is seen from the fifth house - second from the fourth. A weakness here shows the persons mind is unprotected and the person cannot control the impressions they receive from the world. In worst case this can make the person hear voices, or even see things which are not real... This extreme requires a malefic association of Rahu and one more malefic on the fifth lord, and further a similar problem with Jupiter. Hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com prathoshg skrev: Hare Krishna Dear Vistiji When we say Depression we can say every person will face depression once atleast in life but this depression sometimes become unbearable and so severe that it takes a person to level of suicide be it whoever they may be rich or poor or actress or actor or any one now my question is SOME PEOPLE IF THEY FAIL IN EXAM THEY SUICIDE SOME PEOPLE IF THEY GET REJECTED IN LOVE OR IN JOB THEY SUICIDE SOME EVEN IF THEY HAVE 100 PROB SURVIVE NOW OUT OF THIS 3 THINGS HOW DO WE CATEGORISE IF U SAY ITS STRENGTH OF MIND THEN AGAIN THERE COMES A DOUBT IF MOON IS KARAKA FOR MIND THEN ONLY IF MOON IS STRONG AND OTHER 8 PLANETS WEAK STILL CAN WE SURVIVE ????? IF NO THEN WHETHER IF 8 PLANETS ARE WEAK WHETHER THEY WILL AFFECT OUR BRAIN BY THOUGHTS WHICH ARE PAINFUL HURTFUL WORRYFUL AND GRIEF IF YES THEN WHY MOON IS KARAKA FOR MIND? ALL 9 GRAHAS SHD BE KARAKA FOR MIND RIGHT ?????/ BEC ALL GRAHAS HAVE EQUAL SHARE IN CONTROLLING MIND OF PERSON WHY IS MOON GIVEN STATUS PLS ANSWER KINDLY THANKING U PRATHOSH Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Dear Visti, Thank you for clarifying, I was wondering if the malefics (2 or more including rahu) happen to be either ak/amk/bk, then does it change something? I personally have my fifth lord jupiter afflicted by rahu(ak), shani(amk) and mars(bk) but even during rahu dasa rahu AD i did not have any kind of hallucinations either visual or auditory. Though i did get affected by acute cronic depression (which I think was also because of a sade sati that was running) but I did not have any hallucinatinos. So was wondering if the malefics become the first three CKs then does it change something? -Regards RajarshiVisti Larsen <visti wrote: हरे राम कृष्णDear Rajarshi, Namaskar.One malefic is never enough - two is more than enough.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Sorry for interupting the conversation. Very beautiful expression you have written in the mail regarding how one proceses the information. So would the fifth lord's association with rahu and another malefic(shani/mars) be sufficient reason for someone to have problems of schizophrenic nature, like hearing voices and sights etc etc. Also the jupiter needs to be weak in such a case? And if malefics are in trines to moon or AK that can indicate depression? -Regards Rajarshi हरे राम कृष्णDear Pratosh, Namaskar.Please do not make it a habbit to write in capitols as it will be interpreted as shouting.Moon is Mana-karaka only, and the strength of the other planets does not speak of the mind as one can have a great career or finances, but still lack happiness or suffer from mental problems. So Moon is the focus for the mind, and everything else are just excuses for the mind to be happy or sad.Here the Moon itself is the most important as it gathers impressions from the world around us, through which it decides what it likes or not. The working of the mind is seen from the fourth house, where we see the minds pre-disposition due to experiences of childhood... i.e. based on what its experienced - how is the mind affected.Mantra is the most important. Mana traya iti mantra. The mantra protects the mind, and this is seen from the fifth house - second from the fourth. A weakness here shows the persons mind is unprotected and the person cannot control the impressions they receive from the world. In worst case this can make the person hear voices, or even see things which are not real... This extreme requires a malefic association of Rahu and one more malefic on the fifth lord, and further a similar problem with Jupiter.Hope this helps.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com prathoshg skrev: Hare Krishna Dear VistijiWhen we say Depression we can say every person will face depression once atleast in lifebut this depression sometimes become unbearable and so severe that it takes a person to level of suicide be it whoever they may be rich or poor or actress or actor or any one now my question is SOME PEOPLE IF THEY FAIL IN EXAM THEY SUICIDE SOME PEOPLE IF THEY GET REJECTED IN LOVE OR IN JOB THEY SUICIDESOME EVEN IF THEY HAVE 100 PROB SURVIVENOW OUT OF THIS 3 THINGSHOW DO WE CATEGORISEIF U SAY ITS STRENGTH OF MIND THEN AGAIN THERE COMES A DOUBTIF MOON IS KARAKA FOR MINDTHEN ONLY IF MOON IS STRONG AND OTHER 8 PLANETS WEAK STILL CAN WE SURVIVE ?????IF NO THEN WHETHER IF 8 PLANETS ARE WEAK WHETHER THEY WILL AFFECT OUR BRAIN BY THOUGHTS WHICH ARE PAINFUL HURTFUL WORRYFUL AND GRIEF IF YESTHEN WHY MOON IS KARAKA FOR MIND?ALL 9 GRAHAS SHD BE KARAKA FOR MIND RIGHT ?????/BEC ALL GRAHAS HAVE EQUAL SHARE IN CONTROLLING MIND OF PERSON WHY IS MOON GIVEN STATUS PLS ANSWER KINDLYTHANKING UPRATHOSH Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. The rasi is not enough to verify such problems, otherwise a lot more of such incidents would appear. But the Rasi is a good start - just as you have pointed out, whereas the Trimsamsa (d30) is supposed to show whether its a real mental disease or otherwise. On the latter i have only limited information, but was instructed to observe the same in cases of severe mental problems. Is the eighth lord involved with your fifth house/lord? If not we cannot say there is any disease as such to begin with. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for clarifying, I was wondering if the malefics (2 or more including rahu) happen to be either ak/amk/bk, then does it change something? I personally have my fifth lord jupiter afflicted by rahu(ak), shani(amk) and mars(bk) but even during rahu dasa rahu AD i did not have any kind of hallucinations either visual or auditory. Though i did get affected by acute cronic depression (which I think was also because of a sade sati that was running) but I did not have any hallucinatinos. So was wondering if the malefics become the first three CKs then does it change something? -Regards Rajarshi Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष & # 2381;ण Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. One malefic is never enough - two is more than enough. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Sorry for interupting the conversation. Very beautiful expression you have written in the mail regarding how one proceses the information. So would the fifth lord's association with rahu and another malefic(shani/mars) be sufficient reason for someone to have problems of schizophrenic nature, like hearing voices and sights etc etc. Also the jupiter needs to be weak in such a case? And if malefics are in trines to moon or AK that can indicate depression? -Regards Rajarshi हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. Please do not make it a habbit to write in capitols as it will be interpreted as shouting. Moon is Mana-karaka only, and the strength of the other planets does not speak of the mind as one can have a great career or finances, but still lack happiness or suffer from mental problems. So Moon is the focus for the mind, and everything else are just excuses for the mind to be happy or sad. Here the Moon itself is the most important as it gathers impressions from the world around us, through which it decides what it likes or not. The working of the mind is seen from the fourth house, where we see the minds pre-disposition due to experiences of childhood... i.e. based on what its experienced - how is the mind affected. Mantra is the most important. Mana traya iti mantra. The mantra protects the mind, and this is seen from the fifth house - second from the fourth. A weakness here shows the persons mind is unprotected and the person cannot control the impressions they receive from the world. In worst case this can make the person hear voices, or even see things which are not real... This extreme requires a malefic association of Rahu and one more malefic on the fifth lord, and further a similar problem with Jupiter. Hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com prathoshg skrev: Hare Krishna Dear Vistiji When we say Depression we can say every person will face depression once atleast in life but this depression sometimes become unbearable and so severe that it takes a person to level of suicide be it whoever they may be rich or poor or actress or actor or any one now my question is SOME PEOPLE IF THEY FAIL IN EXAM THEY SUICIDE SOME PEOPLE IF THEY GET REJECTED IN LOVE OR IN JOB THEY SUICIDE SOME EVEN IF THEY HAVE 100 PROB SURVIVE NOW OUT OF THIS 3 THINGS HOW DO WE CATEGORISE IF U SAY ITS STRENGTH OF MIND THEN AGAIN THERE COMES A DOUBT IF MOON IS KARAKA FOR MIND THEN ONLY IF MOON IS STRONG AND OTHER 8 PLANETS WEAK STILL CAN WE SURVIVE ????? IF NO THEN WHETHER IF 8 PLANETS ARE WEAK WHETHER THEY WILL AFFECT OUR BRAIN BY THOUGHTS WHICH ARE PAINFUL HURTFUL WORRYFUL AND GRIEF IF YES THEN WHY MOON IS KARAKA FOR MIND? ALL 9 GRAHAS SHD BE KARAKA FOR MIND RIGHT ?????/ BEC ALL GRAHAS HAVE EQUAL SHARE IN CONTROLLING MIND OF PERSON WHY IS MOON GIVEN STATUS PLS ANSWER KINDLY THANKING U PRATHOSH Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Dear Visti, No the 8th lord does not have a connection with either the fifth lord (ju) or the fifth house. I see your point, trimamsa must come into play. Thats logical. Thanks once again for clarifying. -Regards RajarshiVisti Larsen <visti wrote: हरे राम कृष्णDear Rajarshi, Namaskar.The rasi is not enough to verify such problems, otherwise a lot more of such incidents would appear. But the Rasi is a good start - just as you have pointed out, whereas the Trimsamsa (d30) is supposed to show whether its a real mental disease or otherwise. On the latter i have only limited information, but was instructed to observe the same in cases of severe mental problems.Is the eighth lord involved with your fifth house/lord? If not we cannot say there is any disease as such to begin with.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for clarifying, I was wondering if the malefics (2 or more including rahu) happen to be either ak/amk/bk, then does it change something? I personally have my fifth lord jupiter afflicted by rahu(ak), shani(amk) and mars(bk) but even during rahu dasa rahu AD i did not have any kind of hallucinations either visual or auditory. Though i did get affected by acute cronic depression (which I think was also because of a sade sati that was running) but I did not have any hallucinatinos. So was wondering if the malefics become the first three CKs then does it change something? -Regards RajarshiVisti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष & # 2381;णDear Rajarshi, Namaskar.One malefic is never enough - two is more than enough.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Sorry for interupting the conversation. Very beautiful expression you have written in the mail regarding how one proceses the information. So would the fifth lord's association with rahu and another malefic(shani/mars) be sufficient reason for someone to have problems of schizophrenic nature, like hearing voices and sights etc etc. Also the jupiter needs to be weak in such a case? And if malefics are in trines to moon or AK that can indicate depression? -Regards Rajarshi हरे राम कृष्णDear Pratosh, Namaskar.Please do not make it a habbit to write in capitols as it will be interpreted as shouting.Moon is Mana-karaka only, and the strength of the other planets does not speak of the mind as one can have a great career or finances, but still lack happiness or suffer from mental problems. So Moon is the focus for the mind, and everything else are just excuses for the mind to be happy or sad.Here the Moon itself is the most important as it gathers impressions from the world around us, through which it decides what it likes or not. The working of the mind is seen from the fourth house, where we see the minds pre-disposition due to experiences of childhood... i.e. based on what its experienced - how is the mind affected.Mantra is the most important. Mana traya iti mantra. The mantra protects the mind, and this is seen from the fifth house - second from the fourth. A weakness here shows the persons mind is unprotected and the person cannot control the impressions they receive from the world. In worst case this can make the person hear voices, or even see things which are not real... This extreme requires a malefic association of Rahu and one more malefic on the fifth lord, and further a similar problem with Jupiter.Hope this helps.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com prathoshg skrev: Hare Krishna Dear VistijiWhen we say Depression we can say every person will face depression once atleast in lifebut this depression sometimes become unbearable and so severe that it takes a person to level of suicide be it whoever they may be rich or poor or actress or actor or any one now my question is SOME PEOPLE IF THEY FAIL IN EXAM THEY SUICIDE SOME PEOPLE IF THEY GET REJECTED IN LOVE OR IN JOB THEY SUICIDESOME EVEN IF THEY HAVE 100 PROB SURVIVENOW OUT OF THIS 3 THINGSHOW DO WE CATEGORISEIF U SAY ITS STRENGTH OF MIND THEN AGAIN THERE COMES A DOUBTIF MOON IS KARAKA FOR MINDTHEN ONLY IF MOON IS STRONG AND OTHER 8 PLANETS WEAK STILL CAN WE SURVIVE ?????IF NO THEN WHETHER IF 8 PLANETS ARE WEAK WHETHER THEY WILL AFFECT OUR BRAIN BY THOUGHTS WHICH ARE PAINFUL HURTFUL WORRYFUL AND GRIEF IF YESTHEN WHY MOON IS KARAKA FOR MIND?ALL 9 GRAHAS SHD BE KARAKA FOR MIND RIGHT ?????/BEC ALL GRAHAS HAVE EQUAL SHARE IN CONTROLLING MIND OF PERSON WHY IS MOON GIVEN STATUS PLS ANSWER KINDLYTHANKING UPRATHOSH Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Jyotishas , Namaskar Also Ra/Sa in kona to Moon and AK should be checked. Besides prasna marga teachings (5H and 8H) Jataka Parijata advises to check Jupiter and forth bhava for hapiness. This may be crucial for disorders as well. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal rajarshi nandy napisał(a): Dear Visti, No the 8th lord does not have a connection with either the fifth lord (ju) or the fifth house. I see your point, trimamsa must come into play. Thats logical. Thanks once again for clarifying. -Regards Rajarshi Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. The rasi is not enough to verify such problems, otherwise a lot more of such incidents would appear. But the Rasi is a good start - just as you have pointed out, whereas the Trimsamsa (d30) is supposed to show whether its a real mental disease or otherwise. On the latter i have only limited information, but was instructed to observe the same in cases of severe mental problems. Is the eighth lord involved with your fifth house/lord? If not we cannot say there is any disease as such to begin with. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for clarifying, I was wondering if the malefics (2 or more including rahu) happen to be either ak/amk/bk, then does it change something? I personally have my fifth lord jupiter afflicted by rahu(ak), shani(amk) and mars(bk) but even during rahu dasa rahu AD i did not have any kind of hallucinations either visual or auditory. Though i did get affected by acute cronic depression (which I think was also because of a sade sati that was running) but I did not have any hallucinatinos. So was wondering if the malefics become the first three CKs then does it change something? -Regards Rajarshi Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष & # 2381;ण Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. One malefic is never enough - two is more than enough. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Sorry for interupting the conversation. Very beautiful expression you have written in the mail regarding how one proceses the information. So would the fifth lord's association with rahu and another malefic(shani/mars) be sufficient reason for someone to have problems of schizophrenic nature, like hearing voices and sights etc etc. Also the jupiter needs to be weak in such a case? And if malefics are in trines to moon or AK that can indicate depression? -Regards Rajarshi हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. Please do not make it a habbit to write in capitols as it will be interpreted as shouting. Moon is Mana-karaka only, and the strength of the other planets does not speak of the mind as one can have a great career or finances, but still lack happiness or suffer from mental problems. So Moon is the focus for the mind, and everything else are just excuses for the mind to be happy or sad. Here the Moon itself is the most important as it gathers impressions from the world around us, through which it decides what it likes or not. The working of the mind is seen from the fourth house, where we see the minds pre-disposition due to experiences of childhood... i.e. based on what its experienced - how is the mind affected. Mantra is the most important. Mana traya iti mantra. The mantra protects the mind, and this is seen from the fifth house - second from the fourth. A weakness here shows the persons mind is unprotected and the person cannot control the impressions they receive from the world. In worst case this can make the person hear voices, or even see things which are not real... This extreme requires a malefic association of Rahu and one more malefic on the fifth lord, and further a similar problem with Jupiter. Hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com prathoshg skrev: Hare Krishna Dear Vistiji When we say Depression we can say every person will face depression once atleast in life but this depression sometimes become unbearable and so severe that it takes a person to level of suicide be it whoever they may be rich or poor or actress or actor or any one now my question is SOME PEOPLE IF THEY FAIL IN EXAM THEY SUICIDE SOME PEOPLE IF THEY GET REJECTED IN LOVE OR IN JOB THEY SUICIDE SOME EVEN IF THEY HAVE 100 PROB SURVIVE NOW OUT OF THIS 3 THINGS HOW DO WE CATEGORISE IF U SAY ITS STRENGTH OF MIND THEN AGAIN THERE COMES A DOUBT IF MOON IS KARAKA FOR MIND THEN ONLY IF MOON IS STRONG AND OTHER 8 PLANETS WEAK STILL CAN WE SURVIVE ????? IF NO THEN WHETHER IF 8 PLANETS ARE WEAK WHETHER THEY WILL AFFECT OUR BRAIN BY THOUGHTS WHICH ARE PAINFUL HURTFUL WORRYFUL AND GRIEF IF YES THEN WHY MOON IS KARAKA FOR MIND? ALL 9 GRAHAS SHD BE KARAKA FOR MIND RIGHT ?????/ BEC ALL GRAHAS HAVE EQUAL SHARE IN CONTROLLING MIND OF PERSON WHY IS MOON GIVEN STATUS PLS ANSWER KINDLY THANKING U PRATHOSH Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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