Guest guest Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury and 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction) of Saturn or Rahu. If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental confusion and can believe things which are not real. If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is very sensitive. If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this borders insanity. Hope this clarifies. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti prathoshg skrev: Hare Krishna 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as strong or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as 10th is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as weak moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which planet is that only SATURN ????????????? Other than that u mean other 8 planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness example a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu ?????? 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me worst than all human being in world i feel specially only depression and loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to overcome but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or watch cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will talk to family or will keep themselves busy very much but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE VISTIJI 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will affect why cant other planet help here???// why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc etc is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being VENUS PLANET OF JOY ????????????/ LAST IMP THING SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS BADHAKA 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS MOON DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK??????????????? PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION AND LONELINESS AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC JUPITER CANT HELP?????????????? Thanking u prathosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008  Dear Visti, Namaskar! Wow, I see this yoga in my chart. Yet, although I'm certainly very sensitive, and have periods of a bit depression, it is not that bad. 5th lord from AK is Moon, who is conjunct Sat-Rah. Is the affliction not so bad then? Attached is the chart of a person who has a very interesting situation in regard to his siblings. Can you see anything special in this area? Thanks! Yours,Dhira Vedic astrology and ritualsTel. 003286387014Skype: dhira.behttp://boongaworld.comhttp://dna-gifts.com - Visti Larsen Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:58 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Visitji Clear Explanation and Valauable help required from u pls help हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Pratosh, Namaskar.I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific.1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury and2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction) of Saturn or Rahu. If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental confusion and can believe things which are not real.If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is very sensitive.If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this borders insanity.Hope this clarifies.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com prathoshg skrev: Hare Krishna1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as strong or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as 10th is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as weak moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which planet is that only SATURN ????????????? Other than that u mean other 8 planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness example a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu??????3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me worst than all human being in world i feel specially only depression and loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to overcome but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or watch cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will talk to family or will keep themselves busy very much but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE VISTIJI 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will affect why cant other planet help here???//why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc etc is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being VENUS PLANET OF JOY ????????????/LAST IMP THINGSATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS BADHAKA 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS MOON DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK???????????????PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION AND LONELINESS AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC JUPITER CANT HELP??????????????Thanking uprathosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Dear Visti ji,My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. However, I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you think has saved me from the trouble?7-Sep-19586:15 amBangaloreRegards,KrishnaVisti Larsen <visti wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury and 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction) of Saturn or Rahu. If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental confusion and can believe things which are not real. If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is very sensitive. If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this borders insanity. Hope this clarifies. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com prathoshg skrev: Hare Krishna 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as strong or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as 10th is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as weak moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which planet is that only SATURN ????????????? Other than that u mean other 8 planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness example a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu ?????? 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me worst than all human being in world i feel specially only depression and loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to overcome but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or watch cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will talk to family or will keep themselves busy very much but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE VISTIJI 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will affect why cant other planet help here???// why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc etc is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being VENUS PLANET OF JOY ????????????/ LAST IMP THING SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS BADHAKA 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS MOON DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK??????????????? PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION AND LONELINESS AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC JUPITER CANT HELP?????????????? Thanking u prathosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 p.s. To my previous mail: In the Shastyamsa-Trimsamsa Lagna or the fifth house should be connected to the eighth house to cause long term mental-disease, whereas without this the person can see madness around them or suffer from short bouts of madness which reoccur. Visti Larsen skrev: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury and 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction) of Saturn or Rahu. If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental confusion and can believe things which are not real. If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is very sensitive. If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this borders insanity. Hope this clarifies. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com prathoshg skrev: Hare Krishna 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as strong or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as 10th is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as weak moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which planet is that only SATURN ????????????? Other than that u mean other 8 planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness example a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu ?????? 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me worst than all human being in world i feel specially only depression and loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to overcome but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or watch cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will talk to family or will keep themselves busy very much but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE VISTIJI 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will affect why cant other planet help here???// why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc etc is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being VENUS PLANET OF JOY ????????????/ LAST IMP THING SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS BADHAKA 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS MOON DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK??????????????? PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION AND LONELINESS AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC JUPITER CANT HELP?????????????? Thanking u prathosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Krishna Namste, WOW! That is one very bright Surya in chart. And you were born on Sunday morning (in Surya Hora...). Apart from rest of your chart, those position are considered to make native very cheerful. I am waiting for more comments on your chart. Best regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Visti ji, > > My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. However, I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you think has saved me from the trouble? > > 7-Sep-1958 > 6:15 am > Bangalore > > Regards, > Krishna > > Visti Larsen <visti wrote: & #2361; & #2352; & #2375; & #2352; & #2366; & #2350; & #2325; & #2371; & #2359; & #2381; & #2339; > Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. > I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. > 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury > and > 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction) of Saturn or Rahu. > > If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental confusion and can believe things which are not real. > If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is very sensitive. > > If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this borders insanity. > > Hope this clarifies. > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > www: http://srigaruda.com > @: visti > > prathoshg skrev: > Hare Krishna > > 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as strong > or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as 10th > is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as weak > moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this > > 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which planet > is that only SATURN ????????????? Other than that u mean other 8 > planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness example > a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu > ?????? > > 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me worst > than all human being in world i feel specially only depression and > loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji > > suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to overcome > but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and > lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or watch > cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will talk > to family or will keep themselves busy very much > > but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on > thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE VISTIJI > 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will > affect why cant other planet help here???// > > why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc etc > is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being VENUS > PLANET OF JOY ????????????/ > LAST IMP THING > > SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS BADHAKA > 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS MOON > DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK??????????????? > > PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION AND > LONELINESS > > AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC JUPITER > CANT HELP?????????????? > > Thanking u > prathosh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Krishna , Namaskar I was taught that Ra/Sa must be in trikona to Moon. Here 5L from AK is yuti Guru. Two benefics are in Lagna. I would never say you will have some serious problem with depressions. I would say more with short temper due to agni yoga, rudra yoga in AL and Ma/Sa in Kendra, but still those benefics in Lagna make things mild. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Krishnamurthy Seetharama napisał(a): Dear Visti ji, My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. However, I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you think has saved me from the trouble? 7-Sep-1958 6:15 am Bangalore Regards, Krishna Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury and 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction ) of Saturn or Rahu. If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental confusion and can believe things which are not real. If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is very sensitive. If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this borders insanity. Hope this clarifies. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com prathoshg skrev: Hare Krishna 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as strong or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as 10th is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as weak moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which planet is that only SATURN ???????????? ? Other than that u mean other 8 planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness example a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu ?????? 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me worst than all human being in world i feel specially only depression and loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to overcome but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or watch cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will talk to family or will keep themselves busy very much but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE VISTIJI 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will affect why cant other planet help here???// why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc etc is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being VENUS PLANET OF JOY ???????????? / LAST IMP THING SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS BADHAKA 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS MOON DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK???????? ??????? PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION AND LONELINESS AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC JUPITER CANT HELP???????? ?????? Thanking u prathosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Dear Rafal,Thanks for the clarification. In addition, both luminaries are strong being in their moola trikonas might also help. And, looking from Moon Saturn is yogakaraka. Will that help as well?Regards,KrishnaRafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Krishna , Namaskar I was taught that Ra/Sa must be in trikona to Moon. Here 5L from AK is yuti Guru. Two benefics are in Lagna. I would never say you will have some serious problem with depressions. I would say more with short temper due to agni yoga, rudra yoga in AL and Ma/Sa in Kendra, but still those benefics in Lagna make things mild. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Krishnamurthy Seetharama napisał(a): Dear Visti ji, My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. However, I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you think has saved me from the trouble? 7-Sep-1958 6:15 am Bangalore Regards, Krishna Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury and 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction ) of Saturn or Rahu. If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental confusion and can believe things which are not real. If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is very sensitive. If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this borders insanity. Hope this clarifies. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com prathoshg skrev: Hare Krishna 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as strong or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as 10th is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as weak moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which planet is that only SATURN ???????????? ? Other than that u mean other 8 planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness example a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu ?????? 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me worst than all human being in world i feel specially only depression and loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to overcome but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or watch cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will talk to family or will keep themselves busy very much but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE VISTIJI 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will affect why cant other planet help here???// why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc etc is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being VENUS PLANET OF JOY ???????????? / LAST IMP THING SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS BADHAKA 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS MOON DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK???????? ??????? PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION AND LONELINESS AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC JUPITER CANT HELP???????? ?????? Thanking u prathosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Dear Maja,Yes, you are right. I am cheerful most of the times :-) Sometimes, I get short temper. But, I cool down equally fast. Though my colleagues at work have not seen me get angry, my family has seen my bursts many times :-)Regards,Krishnamajastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote: Om Gurave Namah Dear Krishna Namste, WOW! That is one very bright Surya in chart. And you were born on Sunday morning (in Surya Hora...). Apart from rest of your chart, those position are considered to make native very cheerful. I am waiting for more comments on your chart. Best regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Visti ji, > > My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. However, I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you think has saved me from the trouble? > > 7-Sep-1958 > 6:15 am > Bangalore > > Regards, > Krishna > > Visti Larsen <visti wrote: & #2361; & #2352; & #2375; & #2352; & #2366; & #2350; & #2325; & #2371; & #2359; & #2381; & #2339; > Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. > I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. > 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury > and > 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction) of Saturn or Rahu. > > If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental confusion and can believe things which are not real. > If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is very sensitive. > > If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this borders insanity. > > Hope this clarifies. > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > www: http://srigaruda.com > @: visti > > prathoshg skrev: > Hare Krishna > > 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as strong > or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as 10th > is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as weak > moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this > > 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which planet > is that only SATURN ????????????? Other than that u mean other 8 > planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness example > a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu > ?????? > > 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me worst > than all human being in world i feel specially only depression and > loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji > > suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to overcome > but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and > lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or watch > cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will talk > to family or will keep themselves busy very much > > but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on > thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE VISTIJI > 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will > affect why cant other planet help here???// > > why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc etc > is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being VENUS > PLANET OF JOY ????????????/ > LAST IMP THING > > SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS BADHAKA > 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS MOON > DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK??????????????? > > PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION AND > LONELINESS > > AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC JUPITER > CANT HELP?????????????? > > Thanking u > prathosh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Krishna , Namaskar Surya is the answer, Vara, Tithi, Hora. Strong luminaries also adds satva and light. Yogakaraka from Moon doesnt help in this context. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Krishnamurthy Seetharama napisał(a): Dear Rafal, Thanks for the clarification. In addition, both luminaries are strong being in their moola trikonas might also help. And, looking from Moon Saturn is yogakaraka. Will that help as well? Regards, Krishna Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Krishna , Namaskar I was taught that Ra/Sa must be in trikona to Moon. Here 5L from AK is yuti Guru. Two benefics are in Lagna. I would never say you will have some serious problem with depressions. I would say more with short temper due to agni yoga, rudra yoga in AL and Ma/Sa in Kendra, but still those benefics in Lagna make things mild. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Krishnamurthy Seetharama napisał(a): Dear Visti ji, My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. However, I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you think has saved me from the trouble? 7-Sep-1958 6:15 am Bangalore Regards, Krishna Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury and 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction ) of Saturn or Rahu. If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental confusion and can believe things which are not real. If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is very sensitive. If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this borders insanity. Hope this clarifies. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com prathoshg skrev: Hare Krishna 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as strong or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as 10th is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as weak moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which planet is that only SATURN ???????????? ? Other than that u mean other 8 planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness example a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu ?????? 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me worst than all human being in world i feel specially only depression and loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to overcome but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or watch cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will talk to family or will keep themselves busy very much but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE VISTIJI 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will affect why cant other planet help here???// why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc etc is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being VENUS PLANET OF JOY ???????????? / LAST IMP THING SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS BADHAKA 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS MOON DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK???????? ??????? PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION AND LONELINESS AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC JUPITER CANT HELP???????? ?????? Thanking u prathosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Dear Rafal,Thanks again!Regards,KrishnaRafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Krishna , Namaskar Surya is the answer, Vara, Tithi, Hora. Strong luminaries also adds satva and light. Yogakaraka from Moon doesnt help in this context. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Krishnamurthy Seetharama napisał(a): Dear Rafal, Thanks for the clarification. In addition, both luminaries are strong being in their moola trikonas might also help. And, looking from Moon Saturn is yogakaraka. Will that help as well? Regards, Krishna Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Krishna , Namaskar I was taught that Ra/Sa must be in trikona to Moon. Here 5L from AK is yuti Guru. Two benefics are in Lagna. I would never say you will have some serious problem with depressions. I would say more with short temper due to agni yoga, rudra yoga in AL and Ma/Sa in Kendra, but still those benefics in Lagna make things mild. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Krishnamurthy Seetharama napisał(a): Dear Visti ji, My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. However, I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you think has saved me from the trouble? 7-Sep-1958 6:15 am Bangalore Regards, Krishna Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury and 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction ) of Saturn or Rahu. If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental confusion and can believe things which are not real. If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is very sensitive. If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this borders insanity. Hope this clarifies. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com prathoshg skrev: Hare Krishna 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as strong or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as 10th is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as weak moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which planet is that only SATURN ???????????? ? Other than that u mean other 8 planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness example a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu ?????? 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me worst than all human being in world i feel specially only depression and loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to overcome but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or watch cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will talk to family or will keep themselves busy very much but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE VISTIJI 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will affect why cant other planet help here???// why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc etc is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being VENUS PLANET OF JOY ???????????? / LAST IMP THING SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS BADHAKA 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS MOON DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK???????? ??????? PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION AND LONELINESS AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC JUPITER CANT HELP???????? ?????? Thanking u prathosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Respected Vistiji, The combinations that you have mentioned are clear in this chart and this person is suffering from depression and anxiety.What remedy would you suggest in the chart? Date of Birth-7th may 1952 time - 5:00 pm place 74E 54 30 N 12 Regards Shreeya , " prathoshg " <prathoshg wrote: > > Hare Krishna > > 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as strong > or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as 10th > is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as weak > moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this > > > 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which planet > is that only SATURN ????????????? Other than that u mean other 8 > planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness example > a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu > ?????? > > > 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me worst > than all human being in world i feel specially only depression and > loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji > > > suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to overcome > but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and > lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or watch > cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will talk > to family or will keep themselves busy very much > > but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on > thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE VISTIJI > 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will > affect why cant other planet help here???// > > > why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc etc > is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being VENUS > PLANET OF JOY ????????????/ > LAST IMP THING > > SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS BADHAKA > 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS MOON > DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK??????????????? > > PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION AND > LONELINESS > > > AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC JUPITER > CANT HELP?????????????? > > Thanking u > prathosh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Dear Vedic teachers I have the given yoga and have been depressed deeply and also bordered on self destruction 20+ years ago. I see my personality as being somewhat obsessive. My life after 17 years of age, has been one disappoinment after another. Even though I was very good at studies, through a silly mistake of time by mother, was late & failed to pass university entrance exams. Tried to go to USA, was offered partial scholarship there, but father objected. Started part time professional studies while working but mother forced marriage as eldest of 5 children and of 3 girls, in early 1982. When I saw bridegroom fell in love with him though protested vehemently before. Through interference of my family because of questions about husbands character, marriage broke after 2 months. Husband who worked abroad gave up job in shame and embarrassment and has to date not recovered his career though he has crossed continents to try to get onto a better life. We were separated but in 1988 but husband made a reconciliation before migrating in June, I was to follow in 6 months, but mother died in August. (Brother in law has Sun+Rahu 10H VIRGO) Second sisters marriage was coming up so stayed behind at fathers request - husband angry again. After 3rd sister's elopement in '97, brother & father helped me atlast join husband, who forgave and accepted me in 99. A this time father wrote a part of property to me. Life however is difficult financially, and though it started affectionately the relationship is also very troubled now. Since lately father wants property written back to him and says given only for visa purposes. Husband has lost almost all due to marriage failure and this request woulnd me deeply. I have been as good and obedient child as was possible to him. I have Rahu 10H - which I believe is Sarpa dosa, and actually I have killed serpents in the garden duringearly '90s. Infact one was a she snake with eggs in belly, the memory still sends shivers in me. I once calculated the Jiva & Sharira grahas on planetery placements as adviced by a friend, and remember being hysterical when I found out all were finally under influence of the nodes Rahu/ Kethu. Sometimes I wonder if our troubles are all because of me - I feel very sorry for my husband - he is a very hard working honourable man, through prone to temper & violence. I read somewhere sarpa dosa people are born for a specific reason; I love buddhist meditation, have had very very good states of samadhi before - would love to be yogini. Is this why family life unsuccessful? We also have no children, we both wanted them at different times. If you would please help us - as I live ineurope i have no access to temples or priests, but do vratams finding info from the web, which have helped me greatly. self- 03rd night 4th early morning March 1959 at 01 hour 23/ 27minutes, Colombo Sri Lanka. Saggitarius. Vrashabha/ Cancer Navamsaka. Moola nakshatra IV pada (Poorvasala Nakshatra used during marriage time as birth time was taken as 4th afternoon, I believe.)A complete mess. husband-27.02.1951 10am Kandy Sri Lanka. Aries. Visakha Nakshatra Birth times are not exact. Please help us and may you be blessed. , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. > I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. > 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury > and > 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction) of Saturn or Rahu. > > If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental confusion and > can believe things which are not real. > If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is very > sensitive. > > If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is affected then > the native suffers deeply throughout life and this borders insanity. > > Hope this clarifies. > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > www: http://srigaruda.com > @: visti > > prathoshg skrev: > > > > Hare Krishna > > > > 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as strong > > or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as 10th > > is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as weak > > moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this > > > > 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which planet > > is that only SATURN ????????????? Other than that u mean other 8 > > planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness example > > a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu > > ?????? > > > > 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me worst > > than all human being in world i feel specially only depression and > > loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji > > > > suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to overcome > > but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and > > lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or watch > > cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will talk > > to family or will keep themselves busy very much > > > > but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on > > thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE VISTIJI > > 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will > > affect why cant other planet help here???// > > > > why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc etc > > is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being VENUS > > PLANET OF JOY ????????????/ > > LAST IMP THING > > > > SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS BADHAKA > > 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS MOON > > DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK??????????????? > > > > PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION AND > > LONELINESS > > > > AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC JUPITER > > CANT HELP?????????????? > > > > Thanking u > > prathosh > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Krishna Namaste, this morning sky was cloudy until I opened your chart :) I mean, when one enters your birth data in J.Hora program and looks at Pancang section, almost everything is Sy; Sy; Sy; oh, and for a change some more Sy. Well... I also wanted to add that I am very glad that owner of such chart is in Jyotish story. Even Navamsa is interesting as well. You really enjoy this. I could be your daughter and with all my respect to your age, but with such aspects on Chandra (fortunately in mooltrikona) in your chart, please try to be as much diplomatic, polite and nice to all members of your family (especially female members). Even when they are very in wrong. Count to 10 first whenever you feel upset. That might help. Although I do admit that you were newer upset without reasonable cause. Seems to me that this discussion over clearing out positions which lead in depression is more going towards taking in consideration both luminaries, rather than just Chandra. Yet, there was one explanation on the very beginning of this thread (though subject of that email was named differently, I can not remember) that each graha is mind level. That one seems more acceptable to me. What do you think? I also think that weak and very afflicted benefices can lead in such state. Chandra and Surya as first in line. Maybe that would bring the importance of lagna and 4th bhava lord as well, and their position. Weak malefic (Sani and Rahu as first) on lagna or in trines (respectively) could also lead to same. If there is mixture of all these positions in chart, that could be such case. This is just an opinion. If you (or someone else) have any comment, please, I would be glad to read it. Warm regards, Maja , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Maja, > > Yes, you are right. I am cheerful most of the times :-) Sometimes, I get short temper. But, I cool down equally fast. Though my colleagues at work have not seen me get angry, my family has seen my bursts many times :-) > > Regards, > Krishna > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Krishna Namste, > > WOW! That is one very bright Surya in chart. And you were born on > Sunday morning (in Surya Hora...). Apart from rest of your chart, > those position are considered to make native very cheerful. > > I am waiting for more comments on your chart. > > Best regards, > Maja > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > Dear Visti ji, > > > > My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. However, > I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you think has > saved me from the trouble? > > > > 7-Sep-1958 > > 6:15 am > > Bangalore > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > & #2361; & #2352; & #2375; & #2352; & #2366; & #2350; > & #2325; & #2371; & #2359; & #2381; & #2339; > > Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. > > I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. > > 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury > > and > > 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction) of Saturn or > Rahu. > > > > If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental > confusion and can believe things which are not real. > > If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is > very sensitive. > > > > If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is > affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this > borders insanity. > > > > Hope this clarifies. > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti@ > > > > prathoshg skrev: > > Hare Krishna > > > > 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as > strong > > or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as > 10th > > is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as > weak > > moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this > > > > 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which > planet > > is that only SATURN ????????????? Other than that u mean other 8 > > planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness > example > > a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu > > ?????? > > > > 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me > worst > > than all human being in world i feel specially only depression > and > > loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji > > > > suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to > overcome > > but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and > > lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or > watch > > cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will > talk > > to family or will keep themselves busy very much > > > > but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on > > thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE > VISTIJI > > 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will > > affect why cant other planet help here???// > > > > why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc > etc > > is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being > VENUS > > PLANET OF JOY ????????????/ > > LAST IMP THING > > > > SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS > BADHAKA > > 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS > MOON > > DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK??????????????? > > > > PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION > AND > > LONELINESS > > > > AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC > JUPITER > > CANT HELP?????????????? > > > > Thanking u > > prathosh > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Maja,Surya is neecha in Navamsa with Rahu.Respectfully,Michalmajastrbacastro <majastrbacastro Sent: Sunday, June 8, 2008 8:23:24 PM[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Visitji Clear Explanation and Valauable help required from u pls help Om Gurave Namah Dear Krishna Namste, WOW! That is one very bright Surya in chart. And you were born on Sunday morning (in Surya Hora...). Apart from rest of your chart, those position are considered to make native very cheerful. I am waiting for more comments on your chart. Best regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Visti ji, > > My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. However, I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you think has saved me from the trouble? > > 7-Sep-1958 > 6:15 am > Bangalore > > Regards, > Krishna > > Visti Larsen <visti wrote: & #2361; & #2352; & #2375; & #2352; & #2366; & #2350; & #2325; & #2371; & #2359; & # 2381; & #2339; > Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. > I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. > 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury > and > 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction ) of Saturn or Rahu. > > If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental confusion and can believe things which are not real. > If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is very sensitive. > > If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this borders insanity. > > Hope this clarifies. > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > www: http://srigaruda. com > @: visti > > prathoshg skrev: > Hare Krishna > > 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as strong > or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as 10th > is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as weak > moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this > > 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which planet > is that only SATURN ???????????? ? Other than that u mean other 8 > planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness example > a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu > ?????? > > 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me worst > than all human being in world i feel specially only depression and > loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji > > suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to overcome > but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and > lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or watch > cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will talk > to family or will keep themselves busy very much > > but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on > thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE VISTIJI > 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will > affect why cant other planet help here???// > > why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc etc > is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being VENUS > PLANET OF JOY ???????????? / > LAST IMP THING > > SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS BADHAKA > 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS MOON > DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK???????? ??????? > > PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION AND > LONELINESS > > AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC JUPITER > CANT HELP???????? ?????? > > Thanking u > prathosh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Michal , Namaskar So there is some adharma coming from past life, due to kendra position of Ve/Ma the situation is milded and help/support comes from areas related to Ve/Ma yogas. Also Surya in uccha in D30-60 which shows the blessings still.. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Michal Dziwulski napisał(a): Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Maja, Surya is neecha in Navamsa with Rahu. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro > Sunday, June 8, 2008 8:23:24 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Visitji Clear Explanation and Valauable help required from u pls help Om Gurave Namah Dear Krishna Namste, WOW! That is one very bright Surya in chart. And you were born on Sunday morning (in Surya Hora...). Apart from rest of your chart, those position are considered to make native very cheerful. I am waiting for more comments on your chart. Best regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat @ . com, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Visti ji, > > My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. However, I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you think has saved me from the trouble? > > 7-Sep-1958 > 6:15 am > Bangalore > > Regards, > Krishna > > Visti Larsen <visti wrote: & #2361; & #2352; & #2375; & #2352; & #2366; & #2350; & #2325; & #2371; & #2359; & # 2381; & #2339; > Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. > I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. > 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury > and > 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction ) of Saturn or Rahu. > > If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental confusion and can believe things which are not real. > If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is very sensitive. > > If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this borders insanity. > > Hope this clarifies. > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > www: http://srigaruda. com > @: visti > > prathoshg skrev: > Hare Krishna > > 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as strong > or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as 10th > is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as weak > moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this > > 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which planet > is that only SATURN ???????????? ? Other than that u mean other 8 > planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness example > a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu > ?????? > > 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me worst > than all human being in world i feel specially only depression and > loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji > > suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to overcome > but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and > lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or watch > cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will talk > to family or will keep themselves busy very much > > but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on > thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE VISTIJI > 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will > affect why cant other planet help here???// > > why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc etc > is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being VENUS > PLANET OF JOY ???????????? / > LAST IMP THING > > SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS BADHAKA > 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS MOON > DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK???????? ??????? > > PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION AND > LONELINESS > > AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC JUPITER > CANT HELP???????? ?????? > > Thanking u > prathosh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rafal,Venus is in 6th house in Navamsa.Surya is not uccha in either D30 or D60.Perhaps there is some difference in the software we are using?Respectfully,MichalRafal Gendarz <starsuponme Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 8:59:11 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Visitji Clear Explanation and Valauable help required from u pls help kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Michal , Namaskar So there is some adharma coming from past life, due to kendra position of Ve/Ma the situation is milded and help/support comes from areas related to Ve/Ma yogas. Also Surya in uccha in D30-60 which shows the blessings still.. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski napisa³(a): Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Maja, Surya is neecha in Navamsa with Rahu. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > Sunday, June 8, 2008 8:23:24 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Visitji Clear Explanation and Valauable help required from u pls help Om Gurave Namah Dear Krishna Namste, WOW! That is one very bright Surya in chart. And you were born on Sunday morning (in Surya Hora...). Apart from rest of your chart, those position are considered to make native very cheerful. I am waiting for more comments on your chart. Best regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat @ . com, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Visti ji, > > My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. However, I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you think has saved me from the trouble? > > 7-Sep-1958 > 6:15 am > Bangalore > > Regards, > Krishna > > Visti Larsen <visti wrote: & #2361; & #2352; & #2375; & #2352; & #2366; & #2350; & #2325; & #2371; & #2359; & # 2381; & #2339; > Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. > I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. > 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury > and > 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction ) of Saturn or Rahu. > > If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental confusion and can believe things which are not real. > If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is very sensitive. > > If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this borders insanity. > > Hope this clarifies. > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > www: http://srigaruda. com > @: visti > > prathoshg skrev: > Hare Krishna > > 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as strong > or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as 10th > is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as weak > moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this > > 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which planet > is that only SATURN ???????????? ? Other than that u mean other 8 > planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness example > a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu > ?????? > > 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me worst > than all human being in world i feel specially only depression and > loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji > > suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to overcome > but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and > lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or watch > cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will talk > to family or will keep themselves busy very much > > but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on > thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE VISTIJI > 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will > affect why cant other planet help here???// > > why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc etc > is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being VENUS > PLANET OF JOY ???????????? / > LAST IMP THING > > SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS BADHAKA > 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS MOON > DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK???????? ??????? > > PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION AND > LONELINESS > > AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC JUPITER > CANT HELP???????? ?????? > > Thanking u > prathosh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Michal, Namaskar 1. You should check the bhanga grahas in D1 to judge impact on whole life (outside dharma and vivaha). 2. You should check the avastha in Trimsamsa-like-Shastyamsa which is different from Trimsamsa & Shastyamsa. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Michal Dziwulski napisa³(a): Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Rafal, Venus is in 6th house in Navamsa. Surya is not uccha in either D30 or D60. Perhaps there is some difference in the software we are using? Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Monday, June 9, 2008 8:59:11 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Visitji Clear Explanation and Valauable help required from u pls help kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Michal , Namaskar So there is some adharma coming from past life, due to kendra position of Ve/Ma the situation is milded and help/support comes from areas related to Ve/Ma yogas. Also Surya in uccha in D30-60 which shows the blessings still.. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski napisa³(a): Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Maja, Surya is neecha in Navamsa with Rahu. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > Sunday, June 8, 2008 8:23:24 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Visitji Clear Explanation and Valauable help required from u pls help Om Gurave Namah Dear Krishna Namste, WOW! That is one very bright Surya in chart. And you were born on Sunday morning (in Surya Hora...). Apart from rest of your chart, those position are considered to make native very cheerful. I am waiting for more comments on your chart. Best regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat @ . com, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Visti ji, > > My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. However, I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you think has saved me from the trouble? > > 7-Sep-1958 > 6:15 am > Bangalore > > Regards, > Krishna > > Visti Larsen <visti wrote: & #2361; & #2352; & #2375; & #2352; & #2366; & #2350; & #2325; & #2371; & #2359; & # 2381; & #2339; > Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. > I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. > 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury > and > 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction ) of Saturn or Rahu. > > If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental confusion and can believe things which are not real. > If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is very sensitive. > > If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this borders insanity. > > Hope this clarifies. > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > www: http://srigaruda. com > @: visti > > prathoshg skrev: > Hare Krishna > > 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as strong > or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as 10th > is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as weak > moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this > > 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which planet > is that only SATURN ???????????? ? Other than that u mean other 8 > planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness example > a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu > ?????? > > 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me worst > than all human being in world i feel specially only depression and > loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji > > suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to overcome > but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and > lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or watch > cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will talk > to family or will keep themselves busy very much > > but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on > thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE VISTIJI > 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will > affect why cant other planet help here???// > > why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc etc > is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being VENUS > PLANET OF JOY ???????????? / > LAST IMP THING > > SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS BADHAKA > 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS MOON > DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK???????? ??????? > > PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION AND > LONELINESS > > AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC JUPITER > CANT HELP???????? ?????? > > Thanking u > prathosh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Michal, Namaste yes that is right. Rahu is AK and trines to AK in Navamsa is what Soul level wishes to accomplish or develop in this life. Surya (what is Jyotish among Grahas? is on lagnamsa also with AK. This is also Shiva yoga. All this on Navamsa lagna means that it is inborn talent. Well I think that neecha won't cancel all of it. And this is a perfect moment to check if I remembered correctly, but I think that this Surya has neecha banga in Navamsa. Lord of exaltation sign for Surya is Mangal, and in this Navamsa it is in Kendra to Surya and lagna (one of these two is very important and I can not remember which one, not even if my life would depend on it. Kendra sounds with more common science) and it is ucca (exaltated)... Help! Someone?! I was wandering if this is correct this morning and there you are. Noticing that same thing. Cheers! Warm regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat , Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > Dear Maja, > > Surya is neecha in Navamsa with Rahu. > > Respectfully, > Michal > > > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro > > Sunday, June 8, 2008 8:23:24 PM > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Visitji Clear Explanation and Valauable help required from u pls help > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Krishna Namste, > > WOW! That is one very bright Surya in chart. And you were born on > Sunday morning (in Surya Hora...). Apart from rest of your chart, > those position are considered to make native very cheerful. > > I am waiting for more comments on your chart. > > Best regards, > Maja > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Visti ji, > > > > My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. However, > I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you think has > saved me from the trouble? > > > > 7-Sep-1958 > > 6:15 am > > Bangalore > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > & #2361; & #2352; & #2375; & #2352; & #2366; & #2350; > & #2325; & #2371; & #2359; & # 2381; & #2339; > > Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. > > I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. > > 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury > > and > > 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction ) of Saturn or > Rahu. > > > > If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental > confusion and can believe things which are not real. > > If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is > very sensitive. > > > > If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is > affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this > borders insanity. > > > > Hope this clarifies. > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > www: http://srigaruda. com > > @: visti@ > > > > prathoshg skrev: > > Hare Krishna > > > > 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as > strong > > or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as > 10th > > is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as > weak > > moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this > > > > 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which > planet > > is that only SATURN ???????????? ? Other than that u mean other 8 > > planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness > example > > a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu > > ?????? > > > > 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me > worst > > than all human being in world i feel specially only depression > and > > loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji > > > > suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to > overcome > > but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and > > lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or > watch > > cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will > talk > > to family or will keep themselves busy very much > > > > but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on > > thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE > VISTIJI > > 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will > > affect why cant other planet help here???// > > > > why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc > etc > > is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being > VENUS > > PLANET OF JOY ???????????? / > > LAST IMP THING > > > > SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS > BADHAKA > > 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS > MOON > > DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK???????? ??????? > > > > PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION > AND > > LONELINESS > > > > AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC > JUPITER > > CANT HELP???????? ?????? > > > > Thanking u > > prathosh > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Michal, Namaste please, pay no attention to first part of my email down there. I thought you were giving comments for another email I sent right after that one. Anyway, waiting for your reply to rest of that email... Best regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat , " majastrbacastro " <majastrbacastro wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Michal, > Namaste > > yes that is right. Rahu is AK and trines to AK in Navamsa is what > Soul level wishes to accomplish or develop in this life. Surya (what > is Jyotish among Grahas? is on lagnamsa also with AK. This is > also Shiva yoga. All this on Navamsa lagna means that it is inborn > talent. Well I think that neecha won't cancel all of it. > > And this is a perfect moment to check if I remembered correctly, but > I think that this Surya has neecha banga in Navamsa. Lord of > exaltation sign for Surya is Mangal, and in this Navamsa it is in > Kendra to Surya and lagna (one of these two is very important and I > can not remember which one, not even if my life would depend on it. > Kendra sounds with more common science) and it is ucca > (exaltated)... > Help! Someone?! > > I was wandering if this is correct this morning and > there you are. Noticing that same thing. Cheers! > > Warm regards, > Maja > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > , Michal Dziwulski > <nearmichal@> wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > Dear Maja, > > > > Surya is neecha in Navamsa with Rahu. > > > > Respectfully, > > Michal > > > > > > > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> > > > > Sunday, June 8, 2008 8:23:24 PM > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Visitji Clear Explanation and > Valauable help required from u pls help > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Krishna Namste, > > > > WOW! That is one very bright Surya in chart. And you were born on > > Sunday morning (in Surya Hora...). Apart from rest of your chart, > > those position are considered to make native very cheerful. > > > > I am waiting for more comments on your chart. > > > > Best regards, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Visti ji, > > > > > > My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. > However, > > I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you think > has > > saved me from the trouble? > > > > > > 7-Sep-1958 > > > 6:15 am > > > Bangalore > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > & #2361; & #2352; & #2375; & #2352; & #2366; & #2350; > > & #2325; & #2371; & #2359; & # 2381; & #2339; > > > Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. > > > I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. > > > 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury > > > and > > > 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction ) of Saturn > or > > Rahu. > > > > > > If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental > > confusion and can believe things which are not real. > > > If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is > > very sensitive. > > > > > > If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is > > affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this > > borders insanity. > > > > > > Hope this clarifies. > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > www: http://srigaruda. com > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > prathoshg skrev: > > > Hare Krishna > > > > > > 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as > > strong > > > or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such > as > > 10th > > > is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as > > weak > > > moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this > > > > > > 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which > > planet > > > is that only SATURN ???????????? ? Other than that u mean other > 8 > > > planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness > > example > > > a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed > rahu > > > ?????? > > > > > > 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me > > worst > > > than all human being in world i feel specially only depression > > and > > > loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji > > > > > > suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to > > overcome > > > but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed > and > > > lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or > > watch > > > cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or > will > > talk > > > to family or will keep themselves busy very much > > > > > > but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep > on > > > thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE > > VISTIJI > > > 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression > will > > > affect why cant other planet help here???// > > > > > > why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc > > etc > > > is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being > > VENUS > > > PLANET OF JOY ???????????? / > > > LAST IMP THING > > > > > > SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS > > BADHAKA > > > 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS > > MOON > > > DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK???????? ??????? > > > > > > PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO > DEPRESSION > > AND > > > LONELINESS > > > > > > AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC > > JUPITER > > > CANT HELP???????? ?????? > > > > > > Thanking u > > > prathosh > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Dear Vistiji, Namaskar I hve a chart here tht seems to satisfy all criteria 1 moon kendra to mercury 2 moon receives asp of Sa and Ra 3 5th fr AK moon, has Ra 4 In both d6 and d30 LL is in 8hse. Natal Chart - female October 6, 1946 Time: 5:05 pm Time Zone: 7:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 101 E 42' 00 " , 3 N 10' 00 " Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Native has a v curious life. Certainly a v difficult lonely and depressed life throught out. But not, and has nver been insane - whats the saving grace? Ju in 9 asp lag? If possible could you comment on the spiritual life/potential of this person. [not req remedies or solutions, merely yr opinion of the chart]. regds Su , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > p.s. > To my previous mail: In the Shastyamsa-Trimsamsa Lagna or the fifth > house should be connected to the eighth house to cause long term > mental-disease, whereas without this the person can see madness around > them or suffer from short bouts of madness which reoccur. > > Visti Larsen skrev: > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. > > I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. > > 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury > > and > > 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction) of Saturn or Rahu. > > > > If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental confusion > > and can believe things which are not real. > > If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is very > > sensitive. > > > > If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is affected > > then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this borders insanity. > > > > Hope this clarifies. > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti > > > > prathoshg skrev: > > > >> Hare Krishna > >> > >> 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as strong > >> or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as 10th > >> is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as weak > >> moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this > >> > >> 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which planet > >> is that only SATURN ????????????? Other than that u mean other 8 > >> planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness example > >> a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu > >> ?????? > >> > >> 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me worst > >> than all human being in world i feel specially only depression and > >> loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji > >> > >> suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to overcome > >> but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and > >> lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or watch > >> cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will talk > >> to family or will keep themselves busy very much > >> > >> but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on > >> thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE VISTIJI > >> 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will > >> affect why cant other planet help here???// > >> > >> why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc etc > >> is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being VENUS > >> PLANET OF JOY ????????????/ > >> LAST IMP THING > >> > >> SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS BADHAKA > >> 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS MOON > >> DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK??????????????? > >> > >> PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION AND > >> LONELINESS > >> > >> AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC JUPITER > >> CANT HELP?????????????? > >> > >> Thanking u > >> prathosh > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Dear Maja,That was a very sweet mail! I have two daughters. Possibly, you could be of the age of one of my daughters. That makes your mail even more sweet :-)You are right that I am never upset without a reasonable cause. Even my family members acknowledge that. What provokes me the most is when see someone behaving stupidly or when I discover that someone has lied to me. In any case, I will definitely take your advice seriously :-)Coming back to the discussion about depression and which elements cause it. What I believe is that it is primarily Lagna and Chandra. Surya also comes into picture being lagnakaraka. What other planets contribute depends upon their influence on the above three.Though you see a lot of Surya in my chart, I was a bit concerned that Surya is debilitated in navamsha as someone also pointed out. Probably, this is one of the few negatives in my chart. However, I see that things are not too bad as Surya holds such a strong position in Rasi and panchanga. Added to it, Rafal has also given some other sources of strength for Surya.Regards,Krishna majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote: Om Gurave Namah Dear Krishna Namaste, this morning sky was cloudy until I opened your chart :) I mean, when one enters your birth data in J.Hora program and looks at Pancang section, almost everything is Sy; Sy; Sy; oh, and for a change some more Sy. Well... I also wanted to add that I am very glad that owner of such chart is in Jyotish story. Even Navamsa is interesting as well. You really enjoy this. I could be your daughter and with all my respect to your age, but with such aspects on Chandra (fortunately in mooltrikona) in your chart, please try to be as much diplomatic, polite and nice to all members of your family (especially female members). Even when they are very in wrong. Count to 10 first whenever you feel upset. That might help. Although I do admit that you were newer upset without reasonable cause. Seems to me that this discussion over clearing out positions which lead in depression is more going towards taking in consideration both luminaries, rather than just Chandra. Yet, there was one explanation on the very beginning of this thread (though subject of that email was named differently, I can not remember) that each graha is mind level. That one seems more acceptable to me. What do you think? I also think that weak and very afflicted benefices can lead in such state. Chandra and Surya as first in line. Maybe that would bring the importance of lagna and 4th bhava lord as well, and their position. Weak malefic (Sani and Rahu as first) on lagna or in trines (respectively) could also lead to same. If there is mixture of all these positions in chart, that could be such case. This is just an opinion. If you (or someone else) have any comment, please, I would be glad to read it. Warm regards, Maja , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Maja, > > Yes, you are right. I am cheerful most of the times :-) Sometimes, I get short temper. But, I cool down equally fast. Though my colleagues at work have not seen me get angry, my family has seen my bursts many times :-) > > Regards, > Krishna > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Krishna Namste, > > WOW! That is one very bright Surya in chart. And you were born on > Sunday morning (in Surya Hora...). Apart from rest of your chart, > those position are considered to make native very cheerful. > > I am waiting for more comments on your chart. > > Best regards, > Maja > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > Dear Visti ji, > > > > My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. However, > I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you think has > saved me from the trouble? > > > > 7-Sep-1958 > > 6:15 am > > Bangalore > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > & #2361; & #2352; & #2375; & #2352; & #2366; & #2350; > & #2325; & #2371; & #2359; & #2381; & #2339; > > Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. > > I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. > > 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury > > and > > 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction) of Saturn or > Rahu. > > > > If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental > confusion and can believe things which are not real. > > If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person is > very sensitive. > > > > If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is > affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this > borders insanity. > > > > Hope this clarifies. > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti@ > > > > prathoshg skrev: > > Hare Krishna > > > > 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as > strong > > or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such as > 10th > > is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as > weak > > moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this > > > > 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which > planet > > is that only SATURN ????????????? Other than that u mean other 8 > > planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness > example > > a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed rahu > > ?????? > > > > 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me > worst > > than all human being in world i feel specially only depression > and > > loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji > > > > suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to > overcome > > but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed and > > lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies or > watch > > cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or will > talk > > to family or will keep themselves busy very much > > > > but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep on > > thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE > VISTIJI > > 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression will > > affect why cant other planet help here???// > > > > why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc etc > etc > > is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being > VENUS > > PLANET OF JOY ????????????/ > > LAST IMP THING > > > > SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS > BADHAKA > > 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS > MOON > > DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK??????????????? > > > > PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO DEPRESSION > AND > > LONELINESS > > > > AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC > JUPITER > > CANT HELP?????????????? > > > > Thanking u > > prathosh > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Krishna, Namaste oh, daughters, so sweet... I would like to have at least one some day. Yes, stupidity, lies, bad intensions… I can understand quite well how much this can upset you. Yet, when there are malefics involved to Chandra, hardest task is to be tolerant to family members(but they deserve it more than anyone on planet). When I read that your colleagues never see you in such mood, and family members do have that opportunity sometimes, it just crossed my mind how great would it be if this was just reversed. Don't worry, soon you'll see that the more times you " count to ten " and say what you have in a different way, the less times you will even feel need to " count to ten " . Chandra is something you need to nourish in your chart, so you could have more peace of mind. Although it is so great that Chandra in this case is in high dignity. As far as your colleagues, doesn't matter so much. I saw that you got two almost identical replies at one point of this thread, one from Rafal and another from me (there is even possibility that we typed those emails at the same time . Nothing surprising, I belong to same Jyotish linage where he is a Jyotish Guru. It was very helpful from his email to finally find out that both luminaries are so important about that issue. Surya is not as bad in Navamsa as you might think at first. Yes, it is in debilitation sign; yes, it is in same sign where Rahu is, but good news. (I already wrote about it, but I did not see a reply yet) Anyway, there is cancellation of debility in Navamsa. To find that we observe lord of exaltation sign for Surya and that is Mangal. Mangal in your Navamsa is in exaltation sign and it is in Kendra from Surya and lagna as well. That makes situation much better. And I think there is a better side of Sy/Ra yoga in Navamsa. I think that it is good to have Surya in Karakamsa sign for this knowledge. Even if Ak is Rahu. Maybe that yoga is a little bit painful, but it is still Shiva Yoga. Have that in mind. My warmest regards to you and your whole family, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Maja, > > That was a very sweet mail! I have two daughters. Possibly, you could be of the age of one of my daughters. That makes your mail even more sweet :-) > > You are right that I am never upset without a reasonable cause. Even my family members acknowledge that. What provokes me the most is when see someone behaving stupidly or when I discover that someone has lied to me. In any case, I will definitely take your advice seriously :-) > > Coming back to the discussion about depression and which elements cause it. What I believe is that it is primarily Lagna and Chandra. Surya also comes into picture being lagnakaraka. What other planets contribute depends upon their influence on the above three. > > Though you see a lot of Surya in my chart, I was a bit concerned that Surya is debilitated in navamsha as someone also pointed out. Probably, this is one of the few negatives in my chart. However, I see that things are not too bad as Surya holds such a strong position in Rasi and panchanga. Added to it, Rafal has also given some other sources of strength for Surya. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Krishna Namaste, > > this morning sky was cloudy until I opened your chart :) I > mean, when one enters your birth data in J.Hora program and looks at > Pancang section, almost everything is Sy; Sy; Sy; oh, and for a > change some more Sy. > > Well... I also wanted to add that I am very glad that owner of such > chart is in Jyotish story. Even Navamsa is interesting as well. You > really enjoy this. > > I could be your daughter and with all my respect to your age, but > with such aspects on Chandra (fortunately in mooltrikona) in your > chart, please try to be as much diplomatic, polite and nice to all > members of your family (especially female members). Even when they > are very in wrong. Count to 10 first whenever you feel upset. > That might help. Although I do admit that you were newer upset > without reasonable cause. > > Seems to me that this discussion over clearing out positions which > lead in depression is more going towards taking in consideration > both luminaries, rather than just Chandra. Yet, there was one > explanation on the very beginning of this thread (though subject of > that email was named differently, I can not remember) that each > graha is mind level. That one seems more acceptable to me. What do > you think? I also think that weak and very afflicted benefices can > lead in such state. Chandra and Surya as first in line. Maybe that > would bring the importance of lagna and 4th bhava lord as well, and > their position. Weak malefic (Sani and Rahu as first) on lagna or in > trines (respectively) could also lead to same. If there is mixture > of all these positions in chart, that could be such case. This is > just an opinion. If you (or someone else) have any comment, please, > I would be glad to read it. > > Warm regards, > Maja > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > Dear Maja, > > > > Yes, you are right. I am cheerful most of the times :-) Sometimes, > I get short temper. But, I cool down equally fast. Though my > colleagues at work have not seen me get angry, my family has seen my > bursts many times :-) > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> > wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Krishna Namste, > > > > WOW! That is one very bright Surya in chart. And you were born on > > Sunday morning (in Surya Hora...). Apart from rest of your chart, > > those position are considered to make native very cheerful. > > > > I am waiting for more comments on your chart. > > > > Best regards, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Visti ji, > > > > > > My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. > However, > > I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you think > has > > saved me from the trouble? > > > > > > 7-Sep-1958 > > > 6:15 am > > > Bangalore > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > & #2361; & #2352; & #2375; & #2352; & #2366; & #2350; > > & #2325; & #2371; & #2359; & #2381; & #2339; > > > Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. > > > I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. > > > 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury > > > and > > > 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction) of Saturn > or > > Rahu. > > > > > > If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental > > confusion and can believe things which are not real. > > > If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person > is > > very sensitive. > > > > > > If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is > > affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this > > borders insanity. > > > > > > Hope this clarifies. > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > ---------- > > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > prathoshg skrev: > > > Hare Krishna > > > > > > 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as > > strong > > > or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such > as > > 10th > > > is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as > > weak > > > moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this > > > > > > 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which > > planet > > > is that only SATURN ????????????? Other than that u mean other > 8 > > > planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness > > example > > > a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed > rahu > > > ?????? > > > > > > 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me > > worst > > > than all human being in world i feel specially only depression > > and > > > loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji > > > > > > suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to > > overcome > > > but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed > and > > > lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies > or > > watch > > > cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or > will > > talk > > > to family or will keep themselves busy very much > > > > > > but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep > on > > > thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE > > VISTIJI > > > 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression > will > > > affect why cant other planet help here???// > > > > > > why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc > etc > > etc > > > is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being > > VENUS > > > PLANET OF JOY ????????????/ > > > LAST IMP THING > > > > > > SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS > > BADHAKA > > > 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS > > MOON > > > DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK??????????????? > > > > > > PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO > DEPRESSION > > AND > > > LONELINESS > > > > > > AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC > > JUPITER > > > CANT HELP?????????????? > > > > > > Thanking u > > > prathosh > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Dear Maja, Namaste.Not just two girls, I have the third one in my lap now in the form of my grand daughter!As my Sat-Moon period has just started, I have decided to take control of my short temper and discipline myself. I have started reading Bhagavadgita and that has made to take this step. By the way, I am doing quite well over the past one week :-)I agree with you that there is cancellation of Sun's debilitation in Navamsha. I don't know anything about Shiva Yoga. Please give me pointers to understand the same.I wish all your dreams come true.Regards,Krishnamajastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote: Om Gurave Namah Dear Krishna, Namaste oh, daughters, so sweet... I would like to have at least one some day. Yes, stupidity, lies, bad intensions… I can understand quite well how much this can upset you. Yet, when there are malefics involved to Chandra, hardest task is to be tolerant to family members(but they deserve it more than anyone on planet). When I read that your colleagues never see you in such mood, and family members do have that opportunity sometimes, it just crossed my mind how great would it be if this was just reversed. Don't worry, soon you'll see that the more times you "count to ten" and say what you have in a different way, the less times you will even feel need to "count to ten". Chandra is something you need to nourish in your chart, so you could have more peace of mind. Although it is so great that Chandra in this case is in high dignity. As far as your colleagues, doesn't matter so much. I saw that you got two almost identical replies at one point of this thread, one from Rafal and another from me (there is even possibility that we typed those emails at the same time . Nothing surprising, I belong to same Jyotish linage where he is a Jyotish Guru. It was very helpful from his email to finally find out that both luminaries are so important about that issue. Surya is not as bad in Navamsa as you might think at first. Yes, it is in debilitation sign; yes, it is in same sign where Rahu is, but good news. (I already wrote about it, but I did not see a reply yet) Anyway, there is cancellation of debility in Navamsa. To find that we observe lord of exaltation sign for Surya and that is Mangal. Mangal in your Navamsa is in exaltation sign and it is in Kendra from Surya and lagna as well. That makes situation much better. And I think there is a better side of Sy/Ra yoga in Navamsa. I think that it is good to have Surya in Karakamsa sign for this knowledge. Even if Ak is Rahu. Maybe that yoga is a little bit painful, but it is still Shiva Yoga. Have that in mind. My warmest regards to you and your whole family, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Maja, > > That was a very sweet mail! I have two daughters. Possibly, you could be of the age of one of my daughters. That makes your mail even more sweet :-) > > You are right that I am never upset without a reasonable cause. Even my family members acknowledge that. What provokes me the most is when see someone behaving stupidly or when I discover that someone has lied to me. In any case, I will definitely take your advice seriously :-) > > Coming back to the discussion about depression and which elements cause it. What I believe is that it is primarily Lagna and Chandra. Surya also comes into picture being lagnakaraka. What other planets contribute depends upon their influence on the above three. > > Though you see a lot of Surya in my chart, I was a bit concerned that Surya is debilitated in navamsha as someone also pointed out. Probably, this is one of the few negatives in my chart. However, I see that things are not too bad as Surya holds such a strong position in Rasi and panchanga. Added to it, Rafal has also given some other sources of strength for Surya. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Krishna Namaste, > > this morning sky was cloudy until I opened your chart :) I > mean, when one enters your birth data in J.Hora program and looks at > Pancang section, almost everything is Sy; Sy; Sy; oh, and for a > change some more Sy. > > Well... I also wanted to add that I am very glad that owner of such > chart is in Jyotish story. Even Navamsa is interesting as well. You > really enjoy this. > > I could be your daughter and with all my respect to your age, but > with such aspects on Chandra (fortunately in mooltrikona) in your > chart, please try to be as much diplomatic, polite and nice to all > members of your family (especially female members). Even when they > are very in wrong. Count to 10 first whenever you feel upset. > That might help. Although I do admit that you were newer upset > without reasonable cause. > > Seems to me that this discussion over clearing out positions which > lead in depression is more going towards taking in consideration > both luminaries, rather than just Chandra. Yet, there was one > explanation on the very beginning of this thread (though subject of > that email was named differently, I can not remember) that each > graha is mind level. That one seems more acceptable to me. What do > you think? I also think that weak and very afflicted benefices can > lead in such state. Chandra and Surya as first in line. Maybe that > would bring the importance of lagna and 4th bhava lord as well, and > their position. Weak malefic (Sani and Rahu as first) on lagna or in > trines (respectively) could also lead to same. If there is mixture > of all these positions in chart, that could be such case. This is > just an opinion. If you (or someone else) have any comment, please, > I would be glad to read it. > > Warm regards, > Maja > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > Dear Maja, > > > > Yes, you are right. I am cheerful most of the times :-) Sometimes, > I get short temper. But, I cool down equally fast. Though my > colleagues at work have not seen me get angry, my family has seen my > bursts many times :-) > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> > wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Krishna Namste, > > > > WOW! That is one very bright Surya in chart. And you were born on > > Sunday morning (in Surya Hora...). Apart from rest of your chart, > > those position are considered to make native very cheerful. > > > > I am waiting for more comments on your chart. > > > > Best regards, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Visti ji, > > > > > > My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. > However, > > I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you think > has > > saved me from the trouble? > > > > > > 7-Sep-1958 > > > 6:15 am > > > Bangalore > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > & #2361; & #2352; & #2375; & #2352; & #2366; & #2350; > > & #2325; & #2371; & #2359; & #2381; & #2339; > > > Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. > > > I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. > > > 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury > > > and > > > 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction) of Saturn > or > > Rahu. > > > > > > If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental > > confusion and can believe things which are not real. > > > If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the person > is > > very sensitive. > > > > > > If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is > > affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and this > > borders insanity. > > > > > > Hope this clarifies. > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > ---------- > > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > prathoshg skrev: > > > Hare Krishna > > > > > > 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon as > > strong > > > or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra such > as > > 10th > > > is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th as > > weak > > > moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this > > > > > > 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by which > > planet > > > is that only SATURN ????????????? Other than that u mean other > 8 > > > planets even badly placed wont give depression or loneliness > > example > > > a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly placed > rahu > > > ?????? > > > > > > 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects me > > worst > > > than all human being in world i feel specially only depression > > and > > > loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji > > > > > > suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to > > overcome > > > but what is my depression doing is even though i am depressed > and > > > lonely i am not able to come out like people will see movies > or > > watch > > > cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or > will > > talk > > > to family or will keep themselves busy very much > > > > > > but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and keep > on > > > thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont BELIEVE > > VISTIJI > > > 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly depression > will > > > affect why cant other planet help here???// > > > > > > why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc > etc > > etc > > > is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one being > > VENUS > > > PLANET OF JOY ????????????/ > > > LAST IMP THING > > > > > > SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS > > BADHAKA > > > 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF THIS > > MOON > > > DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK??????????????? > > > > > > PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO > DEPRESSION > > AND > > > LONELINESS > > > > > > AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC > > JUPITER > > > CANT HELP?????????????? > > > > > > Thanking u > > > prathosh > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 || Hare Krishna || Dear Sir, Namaskar, One trine lord and one kendra lord together in anyhouse leads to " Shiva Yoga " and it is blessings. Maja please rectify me if I am wrong. Regards, Jim , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Maja, Namaste. > > Not just two girls, I have the third one in my lap now in the form of my grand daughter! > > As my Sat-Moon period has just started, I have decided to take control of my short temper and discipline myself. I have started reading Bhagavadgita and that has made to take this step. By the way, I am doing quite well over the past one week :-) > > I agree with you that there is cancellation of Sun's debilitation in Navamsha. I don't know anything about Shiva Yoga. Please give me pointers to understand the same. > > I wish all your dreams come true. > > Regards, > Krishna > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Krishna, > > Namaste > > oh, daughters, so sweet... I would like to have at least one some > day. > > Yes, stupidity, lies, bad intensions… I can understand quite well > how much this can upset you. Yet, when there are malefics involved > to Chandra, hardest task is to be tolerant to family members(but > they deserve it more than anyone on planet). When I read that your > colleagues never see you in such mood, and family members do have > that opportunity sometimes, it just crossed my mind how great would > it be if this was just reversed. Don't worry, soon you'll see that > the more times you " count to ten " and say what you have in a > different way, the less times you will even feel need to " count to > ten " . Chandra is something you need to nourish in your chart, so you > could have more peace of mind. Although it is so great that Chandra > in this case is in high dignity. As far as your colleagues, doesn't > matter so much. > > I saw that you got two almost identical replies at one point of this > thread, one from Rafal and another from me (there is even > possibility that we typed those emails at the same time . Nothing > surprising, I belong to same Jyotish linage where he is a Jyotish > Guru. It was very helpful from his email to finally find out that > both luminaries are so important about that issue. > > Surya is not as bad in Navamsa as you might think at first. Yes, it > is in debilitation sign; yes, it is in same sign where Rahu is, but > good news. (I already wrote about it, but I did not see a reply yet) > Anyway, there is cancellation of debility in Navamsa. To find that > we observe lord of exaltation sign for Surya and that is Mangal. > Mangal in your Navamsa is in exaltation sign and it is in Kendra > from Surya and lagna as well. That makes situation much better. And > I think there is a better side of Sy/Ra yoga in Navamsa. I think > that it is good to have Surya in Karakamsa sign for this knowledge. > Even if Ak is Rahu. Maybe that yoga is a little bit painful, but it > is still Shiva Yoga. Have that in mind. > > My warmest regards to you and your whole family, > Maja > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > Dear Maja, > > > > That was a very sweet mail! I have two daughters. Possibly, you > could be of the age of one of my daughters. That makes your mail > even more sweet :-) > > > > You are right that I am never upset without a reasonable cause. > Even my family members acknowledge that. What provokes me the most > is when see someone behaving stupidly or when I discover that > someone has lied to me. In any case, I will definitely take your > advice seriously :-) > > > > Coming back to the discussion about depression and which elements > cause it. What I believe is that it is primarily Lagna and Chandra. > Surya also comes into picture being lagnakaraka. What other planets > contribute depends upon their influence on the above three. > > > > Though you see a lot of Surya in my chart, I was a bit concerned > that Surya is debilitated in navamsha as someone also pointed out. > Probably, this is one of the few negatives in my chart. However, I > see that things are not too bad as Surya holds such a strong > position in Rasi and panchanga. Added to it, Rafal has also given > some other sources of strength for Surya. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> > wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Krishna Namaste, > > > > this morning sky was cloudy until I opened your chart :) I > > mean, when one enters your birth data in J.Hora program and looks > at > > Pancang section, almost everything is Sy; Sy; Sy; oh, and for a > > change some more Sy. > > > > Well... I also wanted to add that I am very glad that owner of > such > > chart is in Jyotish story. Even Navamsa is interesting as well. > You > > really enjoy this. > > > > I could be your daughter and with all my respect to your age, but > > with such aspects on Chandra (fortunately in mooltrikona) in your > > chart, please try to be as much diplomatic, polite and nice to > all > > members of your family (especially female members). Even when > they > > are very in wrong. Count to 10 first whenever you feel upset. > > That might help. Although I do admit that you were newer upset > > without reasonable cause. > > > > Seems to me that this discussion over clearing out positions > which > > lead in depression is more going towards taking in consideration > > both luminaries, rather than just Chandra. Yet, there was one > > explanation on the very beginning of this thread (though subject > of > > that email was named differently, I can not remember) that each > > graha is mind level. That one seems more acceptable to me. What > do > > you think? I also think that weak and very afflicted benefices > can > > lead in such state. Chandra and Surya as first in line. Maybe > that > > would bring the importance of lagna and 4th bhava lord as well, > and > > their position. Weak malefic (Sani and Rahu as first) on lagna or > in > > trines (respectively) could also lead to same. If there is > mixture > > of all these positions in chart, that could be such case. This is > > just an opinion. If you (or someone else) have any comment, > please, > > I would be glad to read it. > > > > Warm regards, > > Maja > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Maja, > > > > > > Yes, you are right. I am cheerful most of the times :-) > Sometimes, > > I get short temper. But, I cool down equally fast. Though my > > colleagues at work have not seen me get angry, my family has seen > my > > bursts many times :-) > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna > > > > > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> > > wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Dear Krishna Namste, > > > > > > WOW! That is one very bright Surya in chart. And you were born > on > > > Sunday morning (in Surya Hora...). Apart from rest of your > chart, > > > those position are considered to make native very cheerful. > > > > > > I am waiting for more comments on your chart. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Maja > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Visti ji, > > > > > > > > My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. > > However, > > > I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you > think > > has > > > saved me from the trouble? > > > > > > > > 7-Sep-1958 > > > > 6:15 am > > > > Bangalore > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> > wrote: > > > & #2361; & #2352; & #2375; & #2352; & #2366; & #2350; > > > & #2325; & #2371; & #2359; & #2381; & #2339; > > > > Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. > > > > I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. > > > > 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury > > > > and > > > > 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction) of > Saturn > > or > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental > > > confusion and can believe things which are not real. > > > > If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the > person > > is > > > very sensitive. > > > > > > > > If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is > > > affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and > this > > > borders insanity. > > > > > > > > Hope this clarifies. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > ---------- > > > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > prathoshg skrev: > > > > Hare Krishna > > > > > > > > 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon > as > > > strong > > > > or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra > such > > as > > > 10th > > > > is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th > as > > > weak > > > > moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this > > > > > > > > 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by > which > > > planet > > > > is that only SATURN ????????????? Other than that u mean > other > > 8 > > > > planets even badly placed wont give depression or > loneliness > > > example > > > > a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly > placed > > rahu > > > > ?????? > > > > > > > > 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects > me > > > worst > > > > than all human being in world i feel specially only > depression > > > and > > > > loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji > > > > > > > > suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to > > > overcome > > > > but what is my depression doing is even though i am > depressed > > and > > > > lonely i am not able to come out like people will see > movies > > or > > > watch > > > > cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or > > will > > > talk > > > > to family or will keep themselves busy very much > > > > > > > > but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and > keep > > on > > > > thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont > BELIEVE > > > VISTIJI > > > > 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly > depression > > will > > > > affect why cant other planet help here???// > > > > > > > > why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc > > etc > > > etc > > > > is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one > being > > > VENUS > > > > PLANET OF JOY ????????????/ > > > > LAST IMP THING > > > > > > > > SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS > > > BADHAKA > > > > 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF > THIS > > > MOON > > > > DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK??????????????? > > > > > > > > PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO > > DEPRESSION > > > AND > > > > LONELINESS > > > > > > > > AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC > > > JUPITER > > > > CANT HELP?????????????? > > > > > > > > Thanking u > > > > prathosh > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Jim, Namaste nice to have you included! Ofcourse, there is yoga formed by kendra and kona lord, and it is Lakshmi (kona) Narayana (kendra) Yoga. Shiva Yoga is yuti or mutual aspect of Surya and Rahu (Shakti yoga is Chandra and Rahu). Krishna has this yoga in his Navamsa chart. I shall reply to him about meaning of this yoga in a few hours, so I hope you won't mind to read it from there. Best regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat , " vedicastro_mind " <vedicastro_mind wrote: > > || Hare Krishna || > Dear Sir, > Namaskar, > > One trine lord and one kendra lord together in anyhouse leads > to " Shiva Yoga " and it is blessings. > > Maja please rectify me if I am wrong. > > Regards, > Jim > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > Dear Maja, Namaste. > > > > Not just two girls, I have the third one in my lap now in the form > of my grand daughter! > > > > As my Sat-Moon period has just started, I have decided to take > control of my short temper and discipline myself. I have started > reading Bhagavadgita and that has made to take this step. By the way, > I am doing quite well over the past one week :-) > > > > I agree with you that there is cancellation of Sun's debilitation > in Navamsha. I don't know anything about Shiva Yoga. Please give me > pointers to understand the same. > > > > I wish all your dreams come true. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> > wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Krishna, > > > > Namaste > > > > oh, daughters, so sweet... I would like to have at least one some > > day. > > > > Yes, stupidity, lies, bad intensions… I can understand quite well > > how much this can upset you. Yet, when there are malefics involved > > to Chandra, hardest task is to be tolerant to family members (but > > they deserve it more than anyone on planet). When I read that > your > > colleagues never see you in such mood, and family members do have > > that opportunity sometimes, it just crossed my mind how great > would > > it be if this was just reversed. Don't worry, soon you'll see that > > the more times you " count to ten " and say what you have in a > > different way, the less times you will even feel need to " count to > > ten " . Chandra is something you need to nourish in your chart, so > you > > could have more peace of mind. Although it is so great that > Chandra > > in this case is in high dignity. As far as your colleagues, > doesn't > > matter so much. > > > > I saw that you got two almost identical replies at one point of > this > > thread, one from Rafal and another from me (there is even > > possibility that we typed those emails at the same time . > Nothing > > surprising, I belong to same Jyotish linage where he is a Jyotish > > Guru. It was very helpful from his email to finally find out that > > both luminaries are so important about that issue. > > > > Surya is not as bad in Navamsa as you might think at first. Yes, > it > > is in debilitation sign; yes, it is in same sign where Rahu is, > but > > good news. (I already wrote about it, but I did not see a reply > yet) > > Anyway, there is cancellation of debility in Navamsa. To find that > > we observe lord of exaltation sign for Surya and that is Mangal. > > Mangal in your Navamsa is in exaltation sign and it is in Kendra > > from Surya and lagna as well. That makes situation much better. > And > > I think there is a better side of Sy/Ra yoga in Navamsa. I think > > that it is good to have Surya in Karakamsa sign for this > knowledge. > > Even if Ak is Rahu. Maybe that yoga is a little bit painful, but > it > > is still Shiva Yoga. Have that in mind. > > > > My warmest regards to you and your whole family, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Maja, > > > > > > That was a very sweet mail! I have two daughters. Possibly, you > > could be of the age of one of my daughters. That makes your mail > > even more sweet :-) > > > > > > You are right that I am never upset without a reasonable cause. > > Even my family members acknowledge that. What provokes me the most > > is when see someone behaving stupidly or when I discover that > > someone has lied to me. In any case, I will definitely take your > > advice seriously :-) > > > > > > Coming back to the discussion about depression and which > elements > > cause it. What I believe is that it is primarily Lagna and > Chandra. > > Surya also comes into picture being lagnakaraka. What other > planets > > contribute depends upon their influence on the above three. > > > > > > Though you see a lot of Surya in my chart, I was a bit concerned > > that Surya is debilitated in navamsha as someone also pointed out. > > Probably, this is one of the few negatives in my chart. However, I > > see that things are not too bad as Surya holds such a strong > > position in Rasi and panchanga. Added to it, Rafal has also given > > some other sources of strength for Surya. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> > > wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Dear Krishna Namaste, > > > > > > this morning sky was cloudy until I opened your chart :) > I > > > mean, when one enters your birth data in J.Hora program and > looks > > at > > > Pancang section, almost everything is Sy; Sy; Sy; oh, and for a > > > change some more Sy. > > > > > > Well... I also wanted to add that I am very glad that owner of > > such > > > chart is in Jyotish story. Even Navamsa is interesting as well. > > You > > > really enjoy this. > > > > > > I could be your daughter and with all my respect to your age, > but > > > with such aspects on Chandra (fortunately in mooltrikona) in > your > > > chart, please try to be as much diplomatic, polite and nice to > > all > > > members of your family (especially female members). Even when > > they > > > are very in wrong. Count to 10 first whenever you feel > upset. > > > That might help. Although I do admit that you were newer upset > > > without reasonable cause. > > > > > > Seems to me that this discussion over clearing out positions > > which > > > lead in depression is more going towards taking in > consideration > > > both luminaries, rather than just Chandra. Yet, there was one > > > explanation on the very beginning of this thread (though > subject > > of > > > that email was named differently, I can not remember) that each > > > graha is mind level. That one seems more acceptable to me. What > > do > > > you think? I also think that weak and very afflicted benefices > > can > > > lead in such state. Chandra and Surya as first in line. Maybe > > that > > > would bring the importance of lagna and 4th bhava lord as well, > > and > > > their position. Weak malefic (Sani and Rahu as first) on lagna > or > > in > > > trines (respectively) could also lead to same. If there is > > mixture > > > of all these positions in chart, that could be such case. This > is > > > just an opinion. If you (or someone else) have any comment, > > please, > > > I would be glad to read it. > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > Maja > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Maja, > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right. I am cheerful most of the times :-) > > Sometimes, > > > I get short temper. But, I cool down equally fast. Though my > > > colleagues at work have not seen me get angry, my family has > seen > > my > > > bursts many times :-) > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> > > > wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Dear Krishna Namste, > > > > > > > > WOW! That is one very bright Surya in chart. And you were > born > > on > > > > Sunday morning (in Surya Hora...). Apart from rest of your > > chart, > > > > those position are considered to make native very cheerful. > > > > > > > > I am waiting for more comments on your chart. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy > Seetharama > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti ji, > > > > > > > > > > My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. > > > However, > > > > I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you > > think > > > has > > > > saved me from the trouble? > > > > > > > > > > 7-Sep-1958 > > > > > 6:15 am > > > > > Bangalore > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> > > wrote: > > > > & #2361; & #2352; & #2375; & #2352; & #2366; & #2350; > > > > & #2325; & #2371; & #2359; & #2381; & #2339; > > > > > Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. > > > > > I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. > > > > > 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury > > > > > and > > > > > 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction) of > > Saturn > > > or > > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental > > > > confusion and can believe things which are not real. > > > > > If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the > > person > > > is > > > > very sensitive. > > > > > > > > > > If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is > > > > affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and > > this > > > > borders insanity. > > > > > > > > > > Hope this clarifies. > > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > > ---------- > > > > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > > > prathoshg skrev: > > > > > Hare Krishna > > > > > > > > > > 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define > moon > > as > > > > strong > > > > > or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra > > such > > > as > > > > 10th > > > > > is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in > 8th > > as > > > > weak > > > > > moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this > > > > > > > > > > 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by > > which > > > > planet > > > > > is that only SATURN ????????????? Other than that u mean > > other > > > 8 > > > > > planets even badly placed wont give depression or > > loneliness > > > > example > > > > > a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly > > placed > > > rahu > > > > > ?????? > > > > > > > > > > 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness > affects > > me > > > > worst > > > > > than all human being in world i feel specially only > > depression > > > > and > > > > > loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji > > > > > > > > > > suppose if ur having some depression any person will try > to > > > > overcome > > > > > but what is my depression doing is even though i am > > depressed > > > and > > > > > lonely i am not able to come out like people will see > > movies > > > or > > > > watch > > > > > cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends > or > > > will > > > > talk > > > > > to family or will keep themselves busy very much > > > > > > > > > > but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and > > keep > > > on > > > > > thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont > > BELIEVE > > > > VISTIJI > > > > > 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly > > depression > > > will > > > > > affect why cant other planet help here???// > > > > > > > > > > why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or > etc > > > etc > > > > etc > > > > > is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one > > being > > > > VENUS > > > > > PLANET OF JOY ????????????/ > > > > > LAST IMP THING > > > > > > > > > > SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON > AS > > > > BADHAKA > > > > > 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF > > THIS > > > > MOON > > > > > DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK??????????????? > > > > > > > > > > PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO > > > DEPRESSION > > > > AND > > > > > LONELINESS > > > > > > > > > > AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND > BENEFIC > > > > JUPITER > > > > > CANT HELP?????????????? > > > > > > > > > > Thanking u > > > > > prathosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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