Finding a spiritual Guru/Timing

July 30, 2008

Jaya JagannathaDear Bivash,NamasteTiming is from Drig Dasa. Guru in trines to your mantrapada or 9th rasi from Karakamsa is a good timing.love,SweeOn 30 Jul 2008, at 06:47, Bivash Ramroop wrote:Om Brihaspataye NamahDear Guru Vistiji, NamasteYou've mentioned in an earlier post to a querent about finding a spiritual Guru. Can you please give some hints as to how one can time when one will meet/find a Guru? I'd like to investigate my chart and see when (and if ever)I will find my own spiritual Guru! Jaya Radha Radhanatha!Bivash

August 2, 2008

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Bivash, Namaskar.

I have one practical addition to what has been advised.

Invariably what ever happens when you meet a Guru, if the ninth house

from Karakamsa (vijnanamsa) is not being activated in the vimshottari

antaradasa, it is hard to say that the person actually received vijnana

and with that also diksha during that particular dasa/antara.

When you do apply this in charts keep in mind the applicability of

lagna, chanda and utpana vimshottari dasa. I.e. in a ladies chart the

ninth from karakamsa is Pisces occupied by Jupiter and this receives

the rasi dristi of Rahu. Using regular Chandra-Vimshottari she was

undergoing Jupiter-Rahu (guru-chandala) when she attained a major

important diksha. Whereas with Utpanna-Vimshottari, which was

applicable due to Moon in third house in Rasi, it was much clearer in

that she was running Venus-Jupiter during the time and Jupiter was well

placed in the ninth from karakamsa, and gave a clearer image of the

situation.

Having said that I take the liberty to comment on the advise given by

Smt. Sarbani to share what i was taught in this matter:

Transit of

Jupiter with respect to Mantrapada

This is much in tune with Swee's advise. Preferably Jupiter has Rasi

dristi on the mantrapada as this ensures that you REMEMBER the mantra

and the mantra doesn't leave you after some time. I cannot stress the

importance of such a transit, but some people do forget their mantras,

so this is preferably used for choosing the best time for receiving a

mantra.

Transit of

Ketu in trines to AL: renunciation…meant to take you towards moksha gati

Just as it says - moksha gati begins.

Dåg Daçä of

AL.

When this occurs its said to define ones spiritual presence in society,

i.e. you will show the world during such a dasa that you are spiritual

and become vegeterian, read gita, etc.

My personal inference based on this: for the one who decides not to

embrace spirituality this dasa can potentially make one imbibe the

opposite actions than those spiritually benefiting. This is just my

inference and i was not taught this.

Dåg Daçä of

lagna or signs aspecting lagna: dawn of knowledge. The higher knowledge

of the ninth house awakens the intelligence. (Reading)

Just as it says.

Dasas of

natural benefics associated with the ninth from the AL

Important transformations will occur during this time related to the

areas indicated by the benefics in the ninth, i.e. Mercury in ninth

from AL indicates changes in career and job outlook. You could change

your career completely during such a time for a more spiritual purpose.

Dasas of

natural benefics 3rd and 6th from AL

Time for ahimsa. If these benefics are debilitated then instead

rajayoga happens and the spirituality lessens. Mercury in one of these

bhavas can encourage renunciation.

Viàçottaré

daçä of planets influencing the 5th and the ninth

Time for Mantra (5th) and Sadhana (9th).

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

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@: visti

Bivash Ramroop skrev:

Om Brihaspataye Namah

Dear Guru Vistiji,

Namaste

You've mentioned in an earlier post to a querent about finding a

spiritual Guru.

Can you please give some hints as to how one can time when one will

meet/find a Guru?

I'd like to investigate my chart and see when (and if ever)I will find

my own spiritual Guru!

Jaya Radha Radhanatha!

Bivash

August 2, 2008

Dear Vistiji,

Hope that you are well.

I've not received any reply regarding to those files i sent you and if you received the payment through pay pal.

Please do let me know.

Regards,

Prabhu Ganesh--- On Sat, 8/2/08, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

Visti Larsen <visti[Om Krishna Guru] Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Finding a spiritual Guru/Timing , Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 6:28 AM

à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£Dear Bivash, Namaskar.I have one practical addition to what has been advised.Invariably what ever happens when you meet a Guru, if the ninth house from Karakamsa (vijnanamsa) is not being activated in the vimshottari antaradasa, it is hard to say that the person actually received vijnana and with that also diksha during that particular dasa/antara.When you do apply this in charts keep in mind the applicability of lagna, chanda and utpana vimshottari dasa. I.e. in a ladies chart the ninth from karakamsa is Pisces occupied by Jupiter and this receives the rasi dristi of Rahu. Using regular Chandra-Vimshottari she was undergoing Jupiter-Rahu (guru-chandala) when she attained a major important diksha. Whereas with Utpanna-Vimshottari , which was applicable due to Moon in third house in Rasi, it was much clearer in that she was running Venus-Jupiter during the time and Jupiter was well placed in the

ninth from karakamsa, and gave a clearer image of the situation.Having said that I take the liberty to comment on the advise given by Smt. Sarbani to share what i was taught in this matter:

Transit of Jupiter with respect to MantrapadaThis is much in tune with Swee's advise. Preferably Jupiter has Rasi dristi on the mantrapada as this ensures that you REMEMBER the mantra and the mantra doesn't leave you after some time. I cannot stress the importance of such a transit, but some people do forget their mantras, so this is preferably used for choosing the best time for receiving a mantra.

Transit of Ketu in trines to AL: renunciationâ€¦meant to take you towards moksha gatiJust as it says - moksha gati begins.

DÃ¥g DaÃ§Ã¤ of AL.When this occurs its said to define ones spiritual presence in society, i.e. you will show the world during such a dasa that you are spiritual and become vegeterian, read gita, etc. My personal inference based on this: for the one who decides not to embrace spirituality this dasa can potentially make one imbibe the opposite actions than those spiritually benefiting. This is just my inference and i was not taught this.

DÃ¥g DaÃ§Ã¤ of lagna or signs aspecting lagna: dawn of knowledge. The higher knowledge of the ninth house awakens the intelligence. (Reading)Just as it says.

Dasas of natural benefics associated with the ninth from the ALImportant transformations will occur during this time related to the areas indicated by the benefics in the ninth, i.e. Mercury in ninth from AL indicates changes in career and job outlook. You could change your career completely during such a time for a more spiritual purpose.

Dasas of natural benefics 3rd and 6th from ALTime for ahimsa. If these benefics are debilitated then instead rajayoga happens and the spirituality lessens. Mercury in one of these bhavas can encourage renunciation.

ViÃ Ã§ottarÃ© daÃ§Ã¤ of planets influencing the 5th and the ninthTime for Mantra (5th) and Sadhana (9th).Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Bivash Ramroop skrev:

Om Brihaspataye NamahDear Guru Vistiji, NamasteYou've mentioned in an earlier post to a querent about finding a spiritual Guru. Can you please give some hints as to how one can time when one will meet/find a Guru? I'd like to investigate my chart and see when (and if ever)I will find my own spiritual Guru! Jaya Radha Radhanatha!Bivash

August 8, 2008

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Reema, Namaste.

Here's a principle from the tradition: The apoklimas (3rd, 6th, 9th

& 12th) from the Arudha lagna are tamasic in nature therefore any

grahas in these houses are constantly trying to get out of the tamas.

Among these, the grahas in 3rd, 6th and 12th succumb very easily to the

tamas as their karakas: Mars & Saturn are tamasic in nature, whilst

those in 9th will lead to big blessings afterwards as its karaka

(Jupiter) is sattvic.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

www: http://srigaruda.com

@: visti

Reema Patel Sriganesh skrev:

|| Hare Rama Krushna ||

Namaskaar Visti Ji,

> 1. Dasas of natural benefics associated with the ninth from the AL

>

> Important transformations will occur during this time related to

the

> areas indicated by the benefics in the ninth, i.e. Mercury in

ninth from

> AL indicates changes in career and job outlook. You could change

your

> career completely during such a time for a more spiritual purpose.

Generally transformation of arudha is seen from the 8th therefrom. So

why are we timing transformations with spiritual overtones from the

9th? Planets in the 9th protect the native, as we have been taught.

Benefics could protect the native by making them more spiritual perhaps?

May Sri Vishnu bless us all,

Reema.

, Visti Larsen

<visti wrote:

>

> ??? ??? ?????

> Dear Bivash, Namaskar.

> I have one practical addition to what has been advised.

> Invariably what ever happens when you meet a Guru, if the ninth

house

> from Karakamsa (vijnanamsa) is not being activated in the

vimshottari

> antaradasa, it is hard to say that the person actually received

vijnana

> and with that also diksha during that particular dasa/antara.

>

> When you do apply this in charts keep in mind the applicability of

> lagna, chanda and utpana vimshottari dasa. I.e. in a ladies chart

the

> ninth from karakamsa is Pisces occupied by Jupiter and this

receives the

> rasi dristi of Rahu. Using regular Chandra-Vimshottari she was

> undergoing Jupiter-Rahu (guru-chandala) when she attained a major

> important diksha. Whereas with Utpanna-Vimshottari, which was

applicable

> due to Moon in third house in Rasi, it was much clearer in that

she was

> running Venus-Jupiter during the time and Jupiter was well placed

in the

> ninth from karakamsa, and gave a clearer image of the situation.

>

> Having said that I take the liberty to comment on the advise given

by

> Smt. Sarbani to share what i was taught in this matter:

>

> 1. Transit of Jupiter with respect to Mantrapada

>

> This is much in tune with Swee's advise. Preferably Jupiter has

Rasi

> dristi on the mantrapada as this ensures that you REMEMBER the

mantra

> and the mantra doesn't leave you after some time. I cannot stress

the

> importance of such a transit, but some people do forget their

mantras,

> so this is preferably used for choosing the best time for

receiving a

> mantra.

>

> 1. Transit of Ketu in trines to AL: renunciation...meant to

take you

> towards moksha gati

>

> Just as it says - moksha gati begins.

>

> 1. Dåg Daçä of AL.

>

> When this occurs its said to define ones spiritual presence in

society,

> i.e. you will show the world during such a dasa that you are

spiritual

> and become vegeterian, read gita, etc.

> My personal inference based on this: for the one who decides not

to

> embrace spirituality this dasa can potentially make one imbibe the

> opposite actions than those spiritually benefiting. This is just

my

> inference and i was not taught this.

>

> 1. Dåg Daçä of lagna or signs aspecting lagna: dawn of knowledge.

The

> higher knowledge of the ninth house awakens the intelligence.

> (Reading)

>

> Just as it says.

>

> 1. Dasas of natural benefics associated with the ninth from the AL

>

> Important transformations will occur during this time related to

the

> areas indicated by the benefics in the ninth, i.e. Mercury in

ninth from

> AL indicates changes in career and job outlook. You could change

your

> career completely during such a time for a more spiritual purpose.

>

> 1. Dasas of natural benefics 3rd and 6th from AL

>

> Time for ahimsa. If these benefics are debilitated then instead

rajayoga

> happens and the spirituality lessens. Mercury in one of these

bhavas can

> encourage renunciation.

>

> 1. Viàçottaré daçä of planets influencing the 5th and the ninth

>

> Time for Mantra (5th) and Sadhana (9th).

>

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

> www: http://srigaruda.com

> @: visti

>

> Bivash Ramroop skrev:

> >

> > Om Brihaspataye Namah

> >

> > Dear Guru Vistiji,

> > Namaste

> >

> > You've mentioned in an earlier post to a querent about

finding a

> > spiritual Guru.

> >

> > Can you please give some hints as to how one can time when

one will

> > meet/find a Guru?

> >

> > I'd like to investigate my chart and see when (and if ever)I

will find

> > my own spiritual Guru!

> >

> > Jaya Radha Radhanatha!

> > Bivash

> >

>

August 8, 2008

|| Hare Rama Krushna ||Namaskaar Visti Ji,On similar lines, 8th from Arudha pada is sattvic in nature as are rest of the panapharas. So grahas placed in panapharas (2, 5, 8, 11) are bound to do good for the native. However, bhava karaka of 8th, Shani, is tamasic. Which means that an ashubha graha such as Mangala or Rahu or Shani in 8th is bound to make transformation/change into a difficult experience for the native. However, this transformation/change will "always" lead towards something good given that 8th from arudha pada is ruled by Sri Shakti. Is my understanding correct? May Sri Vishnu bless us all,Reema. , Visti Larsen <visti wrote:>> ??? ??? ?????> Dear Reema, Namaste.> Here's a principle from the tradition: The apoklimas (3rd, 6th, 9th & > 12th) from the Arudha lagna are tamasic in nature therefore any grahas > in these houses are constantly trying to get out of the tamas. Among > these, the grahas in 3rd, 6th and 12th succumb very easily to the tamas > as their karakas: Mars & Saturn are tamasic in nature, whilst those in > 9th will lead to big blessings afterwards as its karaka (Jupiter) is > sattvic.> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ----------> www: http://srigaruda.com> @: visti > Reema Patel Sriganesh skrev:> >> > *|| Hare Rama Krushna ||*> >> > Namaskaar Visti Ji,> >> > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics associated with the ninth from the AL> > >> > > Important transformations will occur during this time related to the> > > areas indicated by the benefics in the ninth, i.e. Mercury in ninth > > from> > > AL indicates changes in career and job outlook. You could change your> > > career completely during such a time for a more spiritual purpose.> >> > Generally transformation of arudha is seen from the 8th therefrom. So > > why are we timing transformations with spiritual overtones from the > > 9th? Planets in the 9th protect the native, as we have been taught. > > Benefics could protect the native by making them more spiritual perhaps?> >> > *May Sri Vishnu bless us all*,> > Reema.> >> > , Visti Larsen visti@ wrote:> > >> > > ??? ??? ?????> > > Dear Bivash, Namaskar.> > > I have one practical addition to what has been advised.> > > Invariably what ever happens when you meet a Guru, if the ninth house> > > from Karakamsa (vijnanamsa) is not being activated in the vimshottari> > > antaradasa, it is hard to say that the person actually received vijnana> > > and with that also diksha during that particular dasa/antara.> > >> > > When you do apply this in charts keep in mind the applicability of> > > lagna, chanda and utpana vimshottari dasa. I.e. in a ladies chart the> > > ninth from karakamsa is Pisces occupied by Jupiter and this receives > > the> > > rasi dristi of Rahu. Using regular Chandra-Vimshottari she was> > > undergoing Jupiter-Rahu (guru-chandala) when she attained a major> > > important diksha. Whereas with Utpanna-Vimshottari, which was > > applicable> > > due to Moon in third house in Rasi, it was much clearer in that she was> > > running Venus-Jupiter during the time and Jupiter was well placed in > > the> > > ninth from karakamsa, and gave a clearer image of the situation.> > >> > > Having said that I take the liberty to comment on the advise given by> > > Smt. Sarbani to share what i was taught in this matter:> > >> > > 1. Transit of Jupiter with respect to Mantrapada> > >> > > This is much in tune with Swee's advise. Preferably Jupiter has Rasi> > > dristi on the mantrapada as this ensures that you REMEMBER the mantra> > > and the mantra doesn't leave you after some time. I cannot stress the> > > importance of such a transit, but some people do forget their mantras,> > > so this is preferably used for choosing the best time for receiving a> > > mantra.> > >> > > 1. Transit of Ketu in trines to AL: renunciation...meant to take you> > > towards moksha gati> > >> > > Just as it says - moksha gati begins.> > >> > > 1. Dåg Daçä of AL.> > >> > > When this occurs its said to define ones spiritual presence in society,> > > i.e. you will show the world during such a dasa that you are spiritual> > > and become vegeterian, read gita, etc.> > > My personal inference based on this: for the one who decides not to> > > embrace spirituality this dasa can potentially make one imbibe the> > > opposite actions than those spiritually benefiting. This is just my> > > inference and i was not taught this.> > >> > > 1. Dåg Daçä of lagna or signs aspecting lagna: dawn of knowledge. The> > > higher knowledge of the ninth house awakens the intelligence.> > > (Reading)> > >> > > Just as it says.> > >> > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics associated with the ninth from the AL> > >> > > Important transformations will occur during this time related to the> > > areas indicated by the benefics in the ninth, i.e. Mercury in ninth > > from> > > AL indicates changes in career and job outlook. You could change your> > > career completely during such a time for a more spiritual purpose.> > >> > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics 3rd and 6th from AL> > >> > > Time for ahimsa. If these benefics are debilitated then instead > > rajayoga> > > happens and the spirituality lessens. Mercury in one of these bhavas > > can> > > encourage renunciation.> > >> > > 1. Viàçottaré daçä of planets influencing the 5th and the ninth> > >> > > Time for Mantra (5th) and Sadhana (9th).> > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > ----------> > > www: http://srigaruda.com> > > @: visti@> > >> > > Bivash Ramroop skrev:> > > >> > > > Om Brihaspataye Namah> > > >> > > > Dear Guru Vistiji,> > > > Namaste> > > >> > > > You've mentioned in an earlier post to a querent about finding a> > > > spiritual Guru.> > > >> > > > Can you please give some hints as to how one can time when one will> > > > meet/find a Guru?> > > >> > > > I'd like to investigate my chart and see when (and if ever)I will find> > > > my own spiritual Guru!> > > >> > > > Jaya Radha Radhanatha!> > > > Bivash> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

August 8, 2008

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Reema, Namaskar.

Ahh... How good is it to take loans in the end eh?

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

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@: visti

Reema Patel Sriganesh skrev:

|| Hare Rama Krushna ||

Namaskaar Visti Ji,

On similar lines, 8th from Arudha pada is sattvic in nature as are rest

of the panapharas. So grahas placed in panapharas (2, 5, 8, 11) are

bound to do good for the native. However, bhava karaka of 8th, Shani,

is tamasic. Which means that an ashubha graha such as Mangala or Rahu

or Shani in 8th is bound to make transformation/change into a

difficult experience for the native. However, this transformation/change

will "always" lead towards something good given that 8th from

arudha pada is ruled by Sri Shakti. Is my understanding correct?

May Sri Vishnu bless us all,

Reema.

, Visti Larsen

<visti wrote:

>

> ??? ??? ?????

> Dear Reema, Namaste.

> Here's a principle from the tradition: The apoklimas (3rd, 6th,

9th &

> 12th) from the Arudha lagna are tamasic in nature therefore any

grahas

> in these houses are constantly trying to get out of the tamas.

Among

> these, the grahas in 3rd, 6th and 12th succumb very easily to the

tamas

> as their karakas: Mars & Saturn are tamasic in nature, whilst

those in

> 9th will lead to big blessings afterwards as its karaka (Jupiter)

is

> sattvic.

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

> www: http://srigaruda.com

> @: visti

>

> Reema Patel Sriganesh skrev:

> >

> > *|| Hare Rama Krushna ||*

> >

> > Namaskaar Visti Ji,

> >

> > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics associated with the ninth

from the AL

> > >

> > > Important transformations will occur during this time

related to the

> > > areas indicated by the benefics in the ninth, i.e.

Mercury in ninth

> > from

> > > AL indicates changes in career and job outlook. You

could change your

> > > career completely during such a time for a more

spiritual purpose.

> >

> > Generally transformation of arudha is seen from the 8th

therefrom. So

> > why are we timing transformations with spiritual overtones

from the

> > 9th? Planets in the 9th protect the native, as we have been

taught.

> > Benefics could protect the native by making them more

spiritual perhaps?

> >

> > *May Sri Vishnu bless us all*,

> > Reema.

> >

> > , Visti Larsen

visti@ wrote:

> > >

> > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > Dear Bivash, Namaskar.

> > > I have one practical addition to what has been advised.

> > > Invariably what ever happens when you meet a Guru, if

the ninth house

> > > from Karakamsa (vijnanamsa) is not being activated in

the vimshottari

> > > antaradasa, it is hard to say that the person actually

received vijnana

> > > and with that also diksha during that particular

dasa/antara.

> > >

> > > When you do apply this in charts keep in mind the

applicability of

> > > lagna, chanda and utpana vimshottari dasa. I.e. in a

ladies chart the

> > > ninth from karakamsa is Pisces occupied by Jupiter and

this receives

> > the

> > > rasi dristi of Rahu. Using regular Chandra-Vimshottari

she was

> > > undergoing Jupiter-Rahu (guru-chandala) when she

attained a major

> > > important diksha. Whereas with Utpanna-Vimshottari,

which was

> > applicable

> > > due to Moon in third house in Rasi, it was much clearer

in that she was

> > > running Venus-Jupiter during the time and Jupiter was

well placed in

> > the

> > > ninth from karakamsa, and gave a clearer image of the

situation.

> > >

> > > Having said that I take the liberty to comment on the

advise given by

> > > Smt. Sarbani to share what i was taught in this matter:

> > >

> > > 1. Transit of Jupiter with respect to Mantrapada

> > >

> > > This is much in tune with Swee's advise. Preferably

Jupiter has Rasi

> > > dristi on the mantrapada as this ensures that you

REMEMBER the mantra

> > > and the mantra doesn't leave you after some time. I

cannot stress the

> > > importance of such a transit, but some people do forget

their mantras,

> > > so this is preferably used for choosing the best time

for receiving a

> > > mantra.

> > >

> > > 1. Transit of Ketu in trines to AL: renunciation...meant

to take you

> > > towards moksha gati

> > >

> > > Just as it says - moksha gati begins.

> > >

> > > 1. Dåg Daçä of AL.

> > >

> > > When this occurs its said to define ones spiritual

presence in society,

> > > i.e. you will show the world during such a dasa that you

are spiritual

> > > and become vegeterian, read gita, etc.

> > > My personal inference based on this: for the one who

decides not to

> > > embrace spirituality this dasa can potentially make one

imbibe the

> > > opposite actions than those spiritually benefiting. This

is just my

> > > inference and i was not taught this.

> > >

> > > 1. Dåg Daçä of lagna or signs aspecting lagna: dawn of

knowledge. The

> > > higher knowledge of the ninth house awakens the

intelligence.

> > > (Reading)

> > >

> > > Just as it says.

> > >

> > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics associated with the ninth

from the AL

> > >

> > > Important transformations will occur during this time

related to the

> > > areas indicated by the benefics in the ninth, i.e.

Mercury in ninth

> > from

> > > AL indicates changes in career and job outlook. You

could change your

> > > career completely during such a time for a more

spiritual purpose.

> > >

> > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics 3rd and 6th from AL

> > >

> > > Time for ahimsa. If these benefics are debilitated then

instead

> > rajayoga

> > > happens and the spirituality lessens. Mercury in one of

these bhavas

> > can

> > > encourage renunciation.

> > >

> > > 1. Viàçottaré daçä of planets influencing the 5th and

the ninth

> > >

> > > Time for Mantra (5th) and Sadhana (9th).

> > >

> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > ----------

> > > www: http://srigaruda.com

> > > @: visti@

> > >

> > > Bivash Ramroop skrev:

> > > >

> > > > Om Brihaspataye Namah

> > > >

> > > > Dear Guru Vistiji,

> > > > Namaste

> > > >

> > > > You've mentioned in an earlier post to a querent

about finding a

> > > > spiritual Guru.

> > > >

> > > > Can you please give some hints as to how one can

time when one will

> > > > meet/find a Guru?

> > > >

> > > > I'd like to investigate my chart and see when (and

if ever)I will find

> > > > my own spiritual Guru!

> > > >

> > > > Jaya Radha Radhanatha!

> > > > Bivash

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 8, 2008

Dear Visti and Reema

As per the discussion below..is it necessary tath every body who has an antar dasa of a planet which connects to 9th frmo karakamsa will get diksha? But not everyone takes diksha.. so how to find that out?

-Regards

Rajarshi

"This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet--- On Fri, 8/8/08, Reema Patel Sriganesh <reema_sriganesh wrote:

Reema Patel Sriganesh <reema_sriganesh[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Finding a spiritual Guru/Timing Date: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 5:00 PM

|| Hare Rama Krushna ||Namaskaar Visti Ji,On similar lines, 8th from Arudha pada is sattvic in nature as are rest of the panapharas. So grahas placed in panapharas (2, 5, 8, 11) are bound to do good for the native. However, bhava karaka of 8th, Shani, is tamasic. Which means that an ashubha graha such as Mangala or Rahu or Shani in 8th is bound to make transformation/ change into a difficult experience for the native. However, this transformation/ change will "always" lead towards something good given that 8th from arudha pada is ruled by Sri Shakti. Is my understanding correct? May Sri Vishnu bless us all,Reema., Visti Larsen <visti wrote:>> ??? ??? ?????> Dear Reema, Namaste.> Here's a principle from the tradition: The apoklimas (3rd, 6th, 9th & > 12th)

from the Arudha lagna are tamasic in nature therefore any grahas > in these houses are constantly trying to get out of the tamas. Among > these, the grahas in 3rd, 6th and 12th succumb very easily to the tamas > as their karakas: Mars & Saturn are tamasic in nature, whilst those in > 9th will lead to big blessings afterwards as its karaka (Jupiter) is > sattvic.> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> www: http://srigaruda. com> @: visti > Reema Patel Sriganesh skrev:> >> > *|| Hare Rama Krushna ||*> >> > Namaskaar Visti Ji,> >> > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics associated with the ninth from the AL> > >> > > Important transformations will occur during this time related to the> > > areas indicated by the benefics in the ninth,

i.e. Mercury in ninth > > from> > > AL indicates changes in career and job outlook. You could change your> > > career completely during such a time for a more spiritual purpose.> >> > Generally transformation of arudha is seen from the 8th therefrom. So > > why are we timing transformations with spiritual overtones from the > > 9th? Planets in the 9th protect the native, as we have been taught. > > Benefics could protect the native by making them more spiritual perhaps?> >> > *May Sri Vishnu bless us all*,> > Reema.> >> > , Visti Larsen visti@ wrote:> > >> > > ??? ??? ?????> > > Dear Bivash, Namaskar.> > > I have one practical addition to what has been advised.> > > Invariably what ever happens when you meet a Guru, if

the ninth house> > > from Karakamsa (vijnanamsa) is not being activated in the vimshottari> > > antaradasa, it is hard to say that the person actually received vijnana> > > and with that also diksha during that particular dasa/antara.> > >> > > When you do apply this in charts keep in mind the applicability of> > > lagna, chanda and utpana vimshottari dasa. I.e. in a ladies chart the> > > ninth from karakamsa is Pisces occupied by Jupiter and this receives > > the> > > rasi dristi of Rahu. Using regular Chandra-Vimshottari she was> > > undergoing Jupiter-Rahu (guru-chandala) when she attained a major> > > important diksha. Whereas with Utpanna-Vimshottari , which was > > applicable> > > due to Moon in third house in Rasi, it was much clearer in that she was> > > running

Venus-Jupiter during the time and Jupiter was well placed in > > the> > > ninth from karakamsa, and gave a clearer image of the situation.> > >> > > Having said that I take the liberty to comment on the advise given by> > > Smt. Sarbani to share what i was taught in this matter:> > >> > > 1. Transit of Jupiter with respect to Mantrapada> > >> > > This is much in tune with Swee's advise. Preferably Jupiter has Rasi> > > dristi on the mantrapada as this ensures that you REMEMBER the mantra> > > and the mantra doesn't leave you after some time. I cannot stress the> > > importance of such a transit, but some people do forget their mantras,> > > so this is preferably used for choosing the best time for receiving a> > > mantra.> > >> > > 1. Transit of Ketu

in trines to AL: renunciation. ..meant to take you> > > towards moksha gati> > >> > > Just as it says - moksha gati begins.> > >> > > 1. DÃ¥g DaÃ§Ã¤ of AL.> > >> > > When this occurs its said to define ones spiritual presence in society,> > > i.e. you will show the world during such a dasa that you are spiritual> > > and become vegeterian, read gita, etc.> > > My personal inference based on this: for the one who decides not to> > > embrace spirituality this dasa can potentially make one imbibe the> > > opposite actions than those spiritually benefiting. This is just my> > > inference and i was not taught this.> > >> > > 1. DÃ¥g DaÃ§Ã¤ of lagna or signs aspecting lagna: dawn of knowledge. The> > > higher knowledge of the ninth house awakens the

intelligence.> > > (Reading)> > >> > > Just as it says.> > >> > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics associated with the ninth from the AL> > >> > > Important transformations will occur during this time related to the> > > areas indicated by the benefics in the ninth, i.e. Mercury in ninth > > from> > > AL indicates changes in career and job outlook. You could change your> > > career completely during such a time for a more spiritual purpose.> > >> > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics 3rd and 6th from AL> > >> > > Time for ahimsa. If these benefics are debilitated then instead > > rajayoga> > > happens and the spirituality lessens. Mercury in one of these bhavas > > can> > > encourage renunciation.> > >> >

> 1. ViÃ Ã§ottarÃ© daÃ§Ã¤ of planets influencing the 5th and the ninth> > >> > > Time for Mantra (5th) and Sadhana (9th).> > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > www: http://srigaruda. com> > > @: visti@> > >> > > Bivash Ramroop skrev:> > > >> > > > Om Brihaspataye Namah> > > >> > > > Dear Guru Vistiji,> > > > Namaste> > > >> > > > You've mentioned in an earlier post to a querent about finding a> > > > spiritual Guru.> > > >> > > > Can you please give some hints as to how one can time when one will> > > > meet/find a Guru?> > > >> > > > I'd like to investigate my chart and

see when (and if ever)I will find> > > > my own spiritual Guru!> > > >> > > > Jaya Radha Radhanatha!> > > > Bivash> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

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|| Hare Rama Krushna ||Namaskaar Visti Ji,> Ahh... How good is it to take loans in the end eh?Going by the current credit crisis, it seems like taking loans is a wholly bad idea ...Jesting aside, I am trying to understand the confluence of subha/asubha graha in the various bhavas from arudha pada presided over by the three shaktis of Narayana. Can you please explain why you asked the above question? Are you suggesting that subha grahas in the 8th from arudha pada end up giving good changes materially, and not spiritually? If so, I would find it very hard to accept. Sri shakti is to do with sustenance in the purest possible manner.May Sri Vishnu bless us all,Reema. , Visti Larsen <visti wrote:>> ??? ??? ?????> Dear Reema, Namaskar.> Ahh... How good is it to take loans in the end eh?> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ----------> www: http://srigaruda.com> @: visti > Reema Patel Sriganesh skrev:> >> > *|| Hare Rama Krushna ||*> >> > Namaskaar Visti Ji,> >> > On similar lines, 8th from Arudha pada is sattvic in nature as are > > rest of the panapharas. So grahas placed in panapharas (2, 5, 8, 11) > > are bound to do good for the native. However, bhava karaka of 8th, > > Shani, is tamasic. Which means that an ashubha graha such as Mangala > > or Rahu or Shani in 8th is bound to make transformation/change into a > > difficult experience for the native. However, this > > transformation/change will "*always*" lead towards something good > > given that 8th from arudha pada is ruled by Sri Shakti. Is my > > understanding correct?> >> > *May Sri Vishnu bless us all*,> > Reema.> >> > , Visti Larsen visti@ wrote:> > >> > > ??? ??? ?????> > > Dear Reema, Namaste.> > > Here's a principle from the tradition: The apoklimas (3rd, 6th, 9th & > > > 12th) from the Arudha lagna are tamasic in nature therefore any grahas> > > in these houses are constantly trying to get out of the tamas. Among> > > these, the grahas in 3rd, 6th and 12th succumb very easily to the tamas> > > as their karakas: Mars & Saturn are tamasic in nature, whilst those in> > > 9th will lead to big blessings afterwards as its karaka (Jupiter) is> > > sattvic.> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > ----------> > > www: http://srigaruda.com> > > @: visti@> > >> > > Reema Patel Sriganesh skrev:> > > >> > > > *|| Hare Rama Krushna ||*> > > >> > > > Namaskaar Visti Ji,> > > >> > > > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics associated with the ninth from the AL> > > > >> > > > > Important transformations will occur during this time related to the> > > > > areas indicated by the benefics in the ninth, i.e. Mercury in ninth> > > > from> > > > > AL indicates changes in career and job outlook. You could change > > your> > > > > career completely during such a time for a more spiritual purpose.> > > >> > > > Generally transformation of arudha is seen from the 8th therefrom. So> > > > why are we timing transformations with spiritual overtones from the> > > > 9th? Planets in the 9th protect the native, as we have been taught.> > > > Benefics could protect the native by making them more spiritual > > perhaps?> > > >> > > > *May Sri Vishnu bless us all*,> > > > Reema.> > > >> > > > , Visti Larsen visti@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > ??? ??? ?????> > > > > Dear Bivash, Namaskar.> > > > > I have one practical addition to what has been advised.> > > > > Invariably what ever happens when you meet a Guru, if the ninth > > house> > > > > from Karakamsa (vijnanamsa) is not being activated in the > > vimshottari> > > > > antaradasa, it is hard to say that the person actually received > > vijnana> > > > > and with that also diksha during that particular dasa/antara.> > > > >> > > > > When you do apply this in charts keep in mind the applicability of> > > > > lagna, chanda and utpana vimshottari dasa. I.e. in a ladies > > chart the> > > > > ninth from karakamsa is Pisces occupied by Jupiter and this > > receives> > > > the> > > > > rasi dristi of Rahu. Using regular Chandra-Vimshottari she was> > > > > undergoing Jupiter-Rahu (guru-chandala) when she attained a major> > > > > important diksha. Whereas with Utpanna-Vimshottari, which was> > > > applicable> > > > > due to Moon in third house in Rasi, it was much clearer in that > > she was> > > > > running Venus-Jupiter during the time and Jupiter was well > > placed in> > > > the> > > > > ninth from karakamsa, and gave a clearer image of the situation.> > > > >> > > > > Having said that I take the liberty to comment on the advise > > given by> > > > > Smt. Sarbani to share what i was taught in this matter:> > > > >> > > > > 1. Transit of Jupiter with respect to Mantrapada> > > > >> > > > > This is much in tune with Swee's advise. Preferably Jupiter has Rasi> > > > > dristi on the mantrapada as this ensures that you REMEMBER the > > mantra> > > > > and the mantra doesn't leave you after some time. I cannot > > stress the> > > > > importance of such a transit, but some people do forget their > > mantras,> > > > > so this is preferably used for choosing the best time for > > receiving a> > > > > mantra.> > > > >> > > > > 1. Transit of Ketu in trines to AL: renunciation...meant to take you> > > > > towards moksha gati> > > > >> > > > > Just as it says - moksha gati begins.> > > > >> > > > > 1. Dåg Daçä of AL.> > > > >> > > > > When this occurs its said to define ones spiritual presence in > > society,> > > > > i.e. you will show the world during such a dasa that you are > > spiritual> > > > > and become vegeterian, read gita, etc.> > > > > My personal inference based on this: for the one who decides not to> > > > > embrace spirituality this dasa can potentially make one imbibe the> > > > > opposite actions than those spiritually benefiting. This is just my> > > > > inference and i was not taught this.> > > > >> > > > > 1. Dåg Daçä of lagna or signs aspecting lagna: dawn of > > knowledge. The> > > > > higher knowledge of the ninth house awakens the intelligence.> > > > > (Reading)> > > > >> > > > > Just as it says.> > > > >> > > > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics associated with the ninth from the AL> > > > >> > > > > Important transformations will occur during this time related to the> > > > > areas indicated by the benefics in the ninth, i.e. Mercury in ninth> > > > from> > > > > AL indicates changes in career and job outlook. You could change > > your> > > > > career completely during such a time for a more spiritual purpose.> > > > >> > > > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics 3rd and 6th from AL> > > > >> > > > > Time for ahimsa. If these benefics are debilitated then instead> > > > rajayoga> > > > > happens and the spirituality lessens. Mercury in one of these > > bhavas> > > > can> > > > > encourage renunciation.> > > > >> > > > > 1. Viàçottaré daçä of planets influencing the 5th and the ninth> > > > >> > > > > Time for Mantra (5th) and Sadhana (9th).> > > > >> > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > > > ----------> > > > > www: http://srigaruda.com> > > > > @: visti@> > > > >> > > > > Bivash Ramroop skrev:> > > > > >> > > > > > Om Brihaspataye Namah> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Guru Vistiji,> > > > > > Namaste> > > > > >> > > > > > You've mentioned in an earlier post to a querent about finding a> > > > > > spiritual Guru.> > > > > >> > > > > > Can you please give some hints as to how one can time when one > > will> > > > > > meet/find a Guru?> > > > > >> > > > > > I'd like to investigate my chart and see when (and if ever)I > > will find> > > > > > my own spiritual Guru!> > > > > >> > > > > > Jaya Radha Radhanatha!> > > > > > Bivash> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

August 8, 2008

|| Hare Rama Krushna ||Namaskaar Rajarshi Ji,If I remember correctly, the 9th from karakamsa has to be associated with karakamsa to be initiated by a Diksha Guru.May Sri Vishnu bless us all,Reema. , rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote:>> > Dear Visti and Reema> Â > As per the discussion below..is it necessary tath every body who has an antar dasa of a planet which connects to 9th frmo karakamsa will get diksha? But not everyone takes diksha.. so how to find that out?> Â > -Regards> Â Rajarshi> > > "This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet> > --- On Fri, 8/8/08, Reema Patel Sriganesh reema_sriganesh wrote:> > Reema Patel Sriganesh reema_sriganesh [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Finding a spiritual Guru/Timing> > Friday, 8 August, 2008, 5:00 PM> > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krushna ||> > Namaskaar Visti Ji,> > On similar lines, 8th from Arudha pada is sattvic in nature as are rest of the panapharas. So grahas placed in panapharas (2, 5, 8, 11) are bound to do good for the native. However, bhava karaka of 8th, Shani, is tamasic. Which means that an ashubha graha such as Mangala or Rahu or Shani in 8th is bound to make transformation/ change into a difficult experience for the native. However, this transformation/ change will "always" lead towards something good given that 8th from arudha pada is ruled by Sri Shakti. Is my understanding correct? > > May Sri Vishnu bless us all,> Reema.> > , Visti Larsen visti@ wrote:> >> > ??? ??? ?????> > Dear Reema, Namaste.> > Here's a principle from the tradition: The apoklimas (3rd, 6th, 9th & > > 12th) from the Arudha lagna are tamasic in nature therefore any grahas > > in these houses are constantly trying to get out of the tamas. Among > > these, the grahas in 3rd, 6th and 12th succumb very easily to the tamas > > as their karakas: Mars & Saturn are tamasic in nature, whilst those in > > 9th will lead to big blessings afterwards as its karaka (Jupiter) is > > sattvic.> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > www: http://srigaruda. com> > @: visti@> > > > Reema Patel Sriganesh skrev:> > >> > > *|| Hare Rama Krushna ||*> > >> > > Namaskaar Visti Ji,> > >> > > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics associated with the ninth from the AL> > > >> > > > Important transformations will occur during this time related to the> > > > areas indicated by the benefics in the ninth, i.e. Mercury in ninth > > > from> > > > AL indicates changes in career and job outlook. You could change your> > > > career completely during such a time for a more spiritual purpose.> > >> > > Generally transformation of arudha is seen from the 8th therefrom. So > > > why are we timing transformations with spiritual overtones from the > > > 9th? Planets in the 9th protect the native, as we have been taught. > > > Benefics could protect the native by making them more spiritual perhaps?> > >> > > *May Sri Vishnu bless us all*,> > > Reema.> > >> > > , Visti Larsen visti@ wrote:> > > >> > > > ??? ??? ?????> > > > Dear Bivash, Namaskar.> > > > I have one practical addition to what has been advised.> > > > Invariably what ever happens when you meet a Guru, if the ninth house> > > > from Karakamsa (vijnanamsa) is not being activated in the vimshottari> > > > antaradasa, it is hard to say that the person actually received vijnana> > > > and with that also diksha during that particular dasa/antara.> > > >> > > > When you do apply this in charts keep in mind the applicability of> > > > lagna, chanda and utpana vimshottari dasa. I.e. in a ladies chart the> > > > ninth from karakamsa is Pisces occupied by Jupiter and this receives > > > the> > > > rasi dristi of Rahu. Using regular Chandra-Vimshottari she was> > > > undergoing Jupiter-Rahu (guru-chandala) when she attained a major> > > > important diksha. Whereas with Utpanna-Vimshottari , which was > > > applicable> > > > due to Moon in third house in Rasi, it was much clearer in that she was> > > > running Venus-Jupiter during the time and Jupiter was well placed in > > > the> > > > ninth from karakamsa, and gave a clearer image of the situation.> > > >> > > > Having said that I take the liberty to comment on the advise given by> > > > Smt. Sarbani to share what i was taught in this matter:> > > >> > > > 1. Transit of Jupiter with respect to Mantrapada> > > >> > > > This is much in tune with Swee's advise. Preferably Jupiter has Rasi> > > > dristi on the mantrapada as this ensures that you REMEMBER the mantra> > > > and the mantra doesn't leave you after some time. I cannot stress the> > > > importance of such a transit, but some people do forget their mantras,> > > > so this is preferably used for choosing the best time for receiving a> > > > mantra.> > > >> > > > 1. Transit of Ketu in trines to AL: renunciation. ..meant to take you> > > > towards moksha gati> > > >> > > > Just as it says - moksha gati begins.> > > >> > > > 1. DÃ¥g DaÃ§Ã¤ of AL.> > > >> > > > When this occurs its said to define ones spiritual presence in society,> > > > i.e. you will show the world during such a dasa that you are spiritual> > > > and become vegeterian, read gita, etc.> > > > My personal inference based on this: for the one who decides not to> > > > embrace spirituality this dasa can potentially make one imbibe the> > > > opposite actions than those spiritually benefiting. This is just my> > > > inference and i was not taught this.> > > >> > > > 1. DÃ¥g DaÃ§Ã¤ of lagna or signs aspecting lagna: dawn of knowledge. The> > > > higher knowledge of the ninth house awakens the intelligence.> > > > (Reading)> > > >> > > > Just as it says.> > > >> > > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics associated with the ninth from the AL> > > >> > > > Important transformations will occur during this time related to the> > > > areas indicated by the benefics in the ninth, i.e. Mercury in ninth > > > from> > > > AL indicates changes in career and job outlook. You could change your> > > > career completely during such a time for a more spiritual purpose.> > > >> > > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics 3rd and 6th from AL> > > >> > > > Time for ahimsa. If these benefics are debilitated then instead > > > rajayoga> > > > happens and the spirituality lessens. Mercury in one of these bhavas > > > can> > > > encourage renunciation.> > > >> > > > 1. ViÃ Ã§ottarÃ© daÃ§Ã¤ of planets influencing the 5th and the ninth> > > >> > > > Time for Mantra (5th) and Sadhana (9th).> > > >> > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > www: http://srigaruda. com> > > > @: visti@> > > >> > > > Bivash Ramroop skrev:> > > > >> > > > > Om Brihaspataye Namah> > > > >> > > > > Dear Guru Vistiji,> > > > > Namaste> > > > >> > > > > You've mentioned in an earlier post to a querent about finding a> > > > > spiritual Guru.> > > > >> > > > > Can you please give some hints as to how one can time when one will> > > > > meet/find a Guru?> > > > >> > > > > I'd like to investigate my chart and see when (and if ever)I will find> > > > > my own spiritual Guru!> > > > >> > > > > Jaya Radha Radhanatha!> > > > > Bivash> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger./?wm=n/>

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Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

There must also be a yoga between the karakamsa and vijnanamsa (9th

from karakamsa) to ensure diksha in this life.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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@: visti

rajarshi nandy skrev:

Dear Visti and Reema

Â

As per the discussion below..is it necessary tath every

body who has an antar dasa of a planet which connects to 9th frmo

karakamsa will get diksha? But not everyone takes diksha.. so how to

find that out?

Â

-Regards

Â Rajarshi

"This

above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet

--- On Fri, 8/8/08, Reema Patel Sriganesh <reema_sriganesh >

wrote:

Reema Patel Sriganesh <reema_sriganesh >

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Finding a spiritual Guru/Timing

Friday, 8 August, 2008, 5:00 PM

|| Hare Rama Krushna ||

Namaskaar Visti Ji,

On similar lines, 8th from Arudha pada is sattvic in nature as are rest

of the panapharas. So grahas placed in panapharas (2, 5, 8, 11) are

bound to do good for the native. However, bhava karaka of 8th, Shani,

is tamasic. Which means that an ashubha graha such as Mangala or Rahu

or Shani in 8th is bound to make transformation/ change into a

difficult experience for the native. However, this transformation/

change will "always" lead towards something good given that 8th

from arudha pada is ruled by Sri Shakti. Is my understanding correct?

May Sri Vishnu bless us all,

Reema.

, Visti Larsen <visti

wrote:

>

> ??? ??? ?????

> Dear Reema, Namaste.

> Here's a principle from the tradition: The apoklimas (3rd, 6th,

9th &

> 12th) from the Arudha lagna are tamasic in nature therefore any

grahas

> in these houses are constantly trying to get out of the tamas.

Among

> these, the grahas in 3rd, 6th and 12th succumb very easily to the

tamas

> as their karakas: Mars & Saturn are tamasic in nature, whilst

those in

> 9th will lead to big blessings afterwards as its karaka (Jupiter)

is

> sattvic.

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> www: http://srigaruda. com

> @: visti

>

> Reema Patel Sriganesh skrev:

> >

> > *|| Hare Rama Krushna ||*

> >

> > Namaskaar Visti Ji,

> >

> > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics associated with the ninth

from the AL

> > >

> > > Important transformations will occur during this time

related to the

> > > areas indicated by the benefics in the ninth, i.e.

Mercury in ninth

> > from

> > > AL indicates changes in career and job outlook. You

could change your

> > > career completely during such a time for a more

spiritual purpose.

> >

> > Generally transformation of arudha is seen from the 8th

therefrom. So

> > why are we timing transformations with spiritual overtones

from the

> > 9th? Planets in the 9th protect the native, as we have been

taught.

> > Benefics could protect the native by making them more

spiritual perhaps?

> >

> > *May Sri Vishnu bless us all*,

> > Reema.

> >

> > , Visti Larsen visti@

wrote:

> > >

> > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > Dear Bivash, Namaskar.

> > > I have one practical addition to what has been advised.

> > > Invariably what ever happens when you meet a Guru, if

the ninth house

> > > from Karakamsa (vijnanamsa) is not being activated in

the vimshottari

> > > antaradasa, it is hard to say that the person actually

received vijnana

> > > and with that also diksha during that particular

dasa/antara.

> > >

> > > When you do apply this in charts keep in mind the

applicability of

> > > lagna, chanda and utpana vimshottari dasa. I.e. in a

ladies chart the

> > > ninth from karakamsa is Pisces occupied by Jupiter and

this receives

> > the

> > > rasi dristi of Rahu. Using regular Chandra-Vimshottari

she was

> > > undergoing Jupiter-Rahu (guru-chandala) when she

attained a major

> > > important diksha. Whereas with Utpanna-Vimshottari ,

which was

> > applicable

> > > due to Moon in third house in Rasi, it was much clearer

in that she was

> > > running Venus-Jupiter during the time and Jupiter was

well placed in

> > the

> > > ninth from karakamsa, and gave a clearer image of the

situation.

> > >

> > > Having said that I take the liberty to comment on the

advise given by

> > > Smt. Sarbani to share what i was taught in this matter:

> > >

> > > 1. Transit of Jupiter with respect to Mantrapada

> > >

> > > This is much in tune with Swee's advise. Preferably

Jupiter has Rasi

> > > dristi on the mantrapada as this ensures that you

REMEMBER the mantra

> > > and the mantra doesn't leave you after some time. I

cannot stress the

> > > importance of such a transit, but some people do forget

their mantras,

> > > so this is preferably used for choosing the best time

for receiving a

> > > mantra.

> > >

> > > 1. Transit of Ketu in trines to AL: renunciation.

...meant to take you

> > > towards moksha gati

> > >

> > > Just as it says - moksha gati begins.

> > >

> > > 1. DÃ¥g DaÃ§Ã¤ of AL.

> > >

> > > When this occurs its said to define ones spiritual

presence in society,

> > > i.e. you will show the world during such a dasa that you

are spiritual

> > > and become vegeterian, read gita, etc.

> > > My personal inference based on this: for the one who

decides not to

> > > embrace spirituality this dasa can potentially make one

imbibe the

> > > opposite actions than those spiritually benefiting. This

is just my

> > > inference and i was not taught this.

> > >

> > > 1. DÃ¥g DaÃ§Ã¤ of lagna or signs aspecting lagna: dawn of

knowledge. The

> > > higher knowledge of the ninth house awakens the

intelligence.

> > > (Reading)

> > >

> > > Just as it says.

> > >

> > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics associated with the ninth

from the AL

> > >

> > > Important transformations will occur during this time

related to the

> > > areas indicated by the benefics in the ninth, i.e.

Mercury in ninth

> > from

> > > AL indicates changes in career and job outlook. You

could change your

> > > career completely during such a time for a more

spiritual purpose.

> > >

> > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics 3rd and 6th from AL

> > >

> > > Time for ahimsa. If these benefics are debilitated then

instead

> > rajayoga

> > > happens and the spirituality lessens. Mercury in one of

these bhavas

> > can

> > > encourage renunciation.

> > >

> > > 1. ViÃ Ã§ottarÃ© daÃ§Ã¤ of planets influencing the 5th and

the ninth

> > >

> > > Time for Mantra (5th) and Sadhana (9th).

> > >

> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > www: http://srigaruda. com

> > > @: visti@

> > >

> > > Bivash Ramroop skrev:

> > > >

> > > > Om Brihaspataye Namah

> > > >

> > > > Dear Guru Vistiji,

> > > > Namaste

> > > >

> > > > You've mentioned in an earlier post to a querent

about finding a

> > > > spiritual Guru.

> > > >

> > > > Can you please give some hints as to how one can

time when one will

> > > > meet/find a Guru?

> > > >

> > > > I'd like to investigate my chart and see when (and

if ever)I will find

> > > > my own spiritual Guru!

> > > >

> > > > Jaya Radha Radhanatha!

> > > > Bivash

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Visti,

Ah! now I get it.. makes perfect sense.. so if someone has a yoga betyween karakamsa and vigyanamsa and a planet involved in such a yoga can bring diksha?

But one more question, is it necessary that the person should have his AK dasa or face the AK before he/she gets a diksha? Because I have my chart where karakamsa is mesh with rahu and vigyan amsa is dhanu with venus. Jupiter and mars are in mithun aspecting vigyan amsa. I had my mars mahadasa quite some years back and I never gained any diskha, infact i was not even spiritually inclined at that time. But I did learn a whole lot of things in science during that phase.

After mars came rahu MD and I became spiritual, so i was wondering if there is some more sub clause to see diksha, as my mars (which connects karakamsa and vigyanamsa) MD did not yeild any diksha.

-Regards

Rajarshi

"This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet--- On Fri, 8/8/08, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

Visti Larsen <vistiRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Finding a spiritual Guru/Timing Date: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 7:03 PM

à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.There must also be a yoga between the karakamsa and vijnanamsa (9th from karakamsa) to ensure diksha in this life.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev:

Dear Visti and Reema

As per the discussion below..is it necessary tath every body who has an antar dasa of a planet which connects to 9th frmo karakamsa will get diksha? But not everyone takes diksha.. so how to find that out?

-Regards

Rajarshi

"This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet--- On Fri, 8/8/08, Reema Patel Sriganesh <reema_sriganesh@ > wrote:

Reema Patel Sriganesh <reema_sriganesh@ >[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Finding a spiritual Guru/TimingFriday, 8 August, 2008, 5:00 PM

|| Hare Rama Krushna ||Namaskaar Visti Ji,On similar lines, 8th from Arudha pada is sattvic in nature as are rest of the panapharas. So grahas placed in panapharas (2, 5, 8, 11) are bound to do good for the native. However, bhava karaka of 8th, Shani, is tamasic. Which means that an ashubha graha such as Mangala or Rahu or Shani in 8th is bound to make transformation/ change into a difficult experience for the native. However, this transformation/ change will "always" lead towards something good given that 8th from arudha pada is ruled by Sri Shakti. Is my understanding correct? May Sri Vishnu bless us all,Reema., Visti Larsen <visti wrote:>> ??? ??? ?????> Dear Reema, Namaste.>

Here's a principle from the tradition: The apoklimas (3rd, 6th, 9th & > 12th) from the Arudha lagna are tamasic in nature therefore any grahas > in these houses are constantly trying to get out of the tamas. Among > these, the grahas in 3rd, 6th and 12th succumb very easily to the tamas > as their karakas: Mars & Saturn are tamasic in nature, whilst those in > 9th will lead to big blessings afterwards as its karaka (Jupiter) is > sattvic.> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> www: http://srigaruda. com> @: visti > Reema Patel Sriganesh skrev:> >> > *|| Hare Rama Krushna ||*> >> > Namaskaar Visti Ji,> >> > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics associated with the ninth from

the AL> > >> > > Important transformations will occur during this time related to the> > > areas indicated by the benefics in the ninth, i.e. Mercury in ninth > > from> > > AL indicates changes in career and job outlook. You could change your> > > career completely during such a time for a more spiritual purpose.> >> > Generally transformation of arudha is seen from the 8th therefrom. So > > why are we timing transformations with spiritual overtones from the > > 9th? Planets in the 9th protect the native, as we have been taught. > > Benefics could protect the native by making them more spiritual perhaps?> >> > *May Sri Vishnu bless us all*,> > Reema.> >> > , Visti Larsen visti@ wrote:> > >> > > ??? ??? ?????>

> > Dear Bivash, Namaskar.> > > I have one practical addition to what has been advised.> > > Invariably what ever happens when you meet a Guru, if the ninth house> > > from Karakamsa (vijnanamsa) is not being activated in the vimshottari> > > antaradasa, it is hard to say that the person actually received vijnana> > > and with that also diksha during that particular dasa/antara.> > >> > > When you do apply this in charts keep in mind the applicability of> > > lagna, chanda and utpana vimshottari dasa. I.e. in a ladies chart the> > > ninth from karakamsa is Pisces occupied by Jupiter and this receives > > the> > > rasi dristi of Rahu. Using regular Chandra-Vimshottari she was> > > undergoing Jupiter-Rahu (guru-chandala) when she attained a major> > > important diksha. Whereas with

Utpanna-Vimshottari , which was > > applicable> > > due to Moon in third house in Rasi, it was much clearer in that she was> > > running Venus-Jupiter during the time and Jupiter was well placed in > > the> > > ninth from karakamsa, and gave a clearer image of the situation.> > >> > > Having said that I take the liberty to comment on the advise given by> > > Smt. Sarbani to share what i was taught in this matter:> > >> > > 1. Transit of Jupiter with respect to Mantrapada> > >> > > This is much in tune with Swee's advise. Preferably Jupiter has Rasi> > > dristi on the mantrapada as this ensures that you REMEMBER the mantra> > > and the mantra doesn't leave you after some time. I cannot stress the> > > importance of such a transit, but some people do forget their

mantras,> > > so this is preferably used for choosing the best time for receiving a> > > mantra.> > >> > > 1. Transit of Ketu in trines to AL: renunciation. ..meant to take you> > > towards moksha gati> > >> > > Just as it says - moksha gati begins.> > >> > > 1. DÃ¥g DaÃ§Ã¤ of AL.> > >> > > When this occurs its said to define ones spiritual presence in society,> > > i.e. you will show the world during such a dasa that you are spiritual> > > and become vegeterian, read gita, etc.> > > My personal inference based on this: for the one who decides not to> > > embrace spirituality this dasa can potentially make one imbibe the> > > opposite actions than those spiritually benefiting. This is just my> > > inference and i was not taught

this.> > >> > > 1. DÃ¥g DaÃ§Ã¤ of lagna or signs aspecting lagna: dawn of knowledge. The> > > higher knowledge of the ninth house awakens the intelligence.> > > (Reading)> > >> > > Just as it says.> > >> > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics associated with the ninth from the AL> > >> > > Important transformations will occur during this time related to the> > > areas indicated by the benefics in the ninth, i.e. Mercury in ninth > > from> > > AL indicates changes in career and job outlook. You could change your> > > career completely during such a time for a more spiritual purpose.> > >> > > 1. Dasas of natural benefics 3rd and 6th from AL> > >> > > Time for ahimsa. If these benefics are debilitated then instead > >

rajayoga> > > happens and the spirituality lessens. Mercury in one of these bhavas > > can> > > encourage renunciation.> > >> > > 1. ViÃ Ã§ottarÃ© daÃ§Ã¤ of planets influencing the 5th and the ninth> > >> > > Time for Mantra (5th) and Sadhana (9th).> > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > www: http://srigaruda. com> > > @: visti@> > >> > > Bivash Ramroop skrev:> > > >> > > > Om Brihaspataye Namah> > > >> > > > Dear Guru Vistiji,> > > > Namaste> > > >> > > > You've mentioned in an earlier post to a querent about finding

a> > > > spiritual Guru.> > > >> > > > Can you please give some hints as to how one can time when one will> > > > meet/find a Guru?> > > >> > > > I'd like to investigate my chart and see when (and if ever)I will find> > > > my own spiritual Guru!> > > >> > > > Jaya Radha Radhanatha!> > > > Bivash> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

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August 9, 2008

à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£

Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

Who has ever mentioned mahadasa?

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

www: http://srigaruda.com

@: visti

rajarshi nandy skrev:

Dear Visti,

Ah! now I get it.. makes perfect sense.. so if someone has

a yoga betyween karakamsa and vigyanamsa and a planet involved in such

a yoga can bring diksha?

Â

But one more question, is it necessary that the person

should have his AK dasa or face the AK before he/she gets a diksha?

Because I have my chart where karakamsa is mesh with rahu and vigyan

amsa is dhanu with venus. Jupiter and mars are in mithun aspecting

vigyan amsa. I had my mars mahadasa quite some years back and I never

gained any diskha, infact i was not even spiritually inclined at that

time. But I did learn a whole lot of things in science during that

phase.

Â

After mars came rahu MD and I became spiritual, so i was

wondering if there is some more sub clause to see diksha, as my mars

(which connects karakamsa and vigyanamsa) MD did not yeild any diksha.

Â

-Regards

Â Rajarshi

"This

above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet

--- On Fri, 8/8/08, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

wrote:

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Finding a spiritual Guru/Timing

Friday, 8 August, 2008, 7:03 PM

à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£

Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

There must also be a yoga between the karakamsa and vijnanamsa (9th

from karakamsa) to ensure diksha in this life.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

www: http://srigaruda.

com

@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com

rajarshi nandy skrev:

Dear Visti and Reema

Â

As per the discussion below..is it necessary

tath every body who has an antar dasa of a planet which connects to 9th

frmo karakamsa will get diksha? But not everyone takes diksha.. so how

to find that out?

Â

-Regards

Â Rajarshi

"This

above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet

--- On Fri, 8/8/08, Reema Patel Sriganesh <reema_sriganesh@

> wrote:

Reema Patel

Sriganesh <reema_sriganesh@ >

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Finding a spiritual Guru/Timing

Friday, 8 August, 2008, 5:00 PM

|| Hare Rama Krushna

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