Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 ~~~ Om Namah Shivaayah Shivaayah Namah Om ~~~ Dear Vinayak and all honorable members of the group Very happy 61st indipendance day of India. While in retrograde motion it will have to see the Cancer Sign because saturn is travelling towards backward direction and result will be seen only either delayed till it get direct or denied if the matter to be seen in days. Thanks Pram On 8/14/08, vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie wrote: Adarniya Guruji's Namaskar, Please calrify whether retrograde planets aspect in reverse zodiac direction or direct zodiac direction. Retrograde Saturn in Kanya Rasi will have its 3rd aspect on Kark rasi or Vrischik rasi. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Adarniya Guruji Namaskar, Thank you for clarifying. Are the aspects in reverse direction for retrograde planets irrespective of Birth chart or transit chart or is there a difference. Regards--- On Fri, 8/15/08, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Please Clarify Retrograde Planet Graha Dristi Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 9:34 AM ~~~ Om Namah Shivaayah Shivaayah Namah Om ~~~ Dear Vinayak and all honorable members of the group Very happy 61st indipendance day of India. While in retrograde motion it will have to see the Cancer Sign because saturn is travelling towards backward direction and result will be seen only either delayed till it get direct or denied if the matter to be seen in days. Thanks Pram On 8/14/08, vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@ > wrote: Adarniya Guruji's Namaskar, Please calrify whether retrograde planets aspect in reverse zodiac direction or direct zodiac direction. Retrograde Saturn in Kanya Rasi will have its 3rd aspect on Kark rasi or Vrischik rasi. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 ~~~ Om Namah Shivaayah Shivaayah Namah Om ~~~ Dear Vinayak Yes it is totally different from transit chart and birth chart. In birth chart plt retrograde means remaining uneasy in the matters or aspect belongs to and in some matters it is not in the fate of native too. But in transit one can wait for the better and improved results after the planet being get direct in motion. Although in fast applying results they prove to be denial but in some matters they give astronishing results now suppose saturn is in retrograde in birth chart then will have to give good results in the transit when satrun is in retrograde motion and it will give good result bias in services bias and in all those matter which is governed by saturn. That make to prove the idomatic sentence " Saturn delays but never deny's " . Lot of narrow ascapes have been seen when planet gets retrograde in the bad houses. for instance 3H makes angle of 6th from 10H [Karyesh] and 12th from 4H [House] and 9th from 7H [Partner or opponent] so in that manner one can reach or tackle the 3H under control by means of remedial. In the same manner on can get advantage of this analysis regrading 8H or 12H but it is only for those who can relate the house in transferable manner and have a good eye on planet which is provoking to get remedy. For example In Prashna Chart suppose one come to ask you Will I be able to clear off loans? When? Whether one invests money or incurs expenditure or repays loan, one have to judge the 12H and find out whether the SubLord of 12H is either Retrograde or SubLord's StarLord is retrograde. If either of that is retrograde, one cannot either invest or repay Loan. Now see the condition, if the SubLord or SubLord's StarLord is in direct motion, then one will invest or repay loan. Now if the SubLord is Saturn, then there will be delay and some obstacles to repay Loans. If Mercury, one will correspond, or send agent for compromise to repay in instalments. If Jupiter, one will face Lawful means and the amount will be repayed by legitimate or lumpsum money by showing bankcrupcy. If Mars, the lender threatens and then money is repayed. If Moon, Very quickly money is repayed. If Venus, with the spirit of compromise and sweet words one repays. If Sun, through the help of either father or Government officials one repays. Now if SAturn is able to aspect the SubLord, and it may be any planet, then one will repays only in part of the whole or repays part by part. Hope so you will get the main image of Retrograde Planet consequence. Thanks.Pram On 8/15/08, vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie wrote: Adarniya Guruji Namaskar, Thank you for clarifying. Are the aspects in reverse direction for retrograde planets irrespective of Birth chart or transit chart or is there a difference. Regards--- On Fri, 8/15/08, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Please Clarify Retrograde Planet Graha Dristi Friday, August 15, 2008, 9:34 AM ~~~ Om Namah Shivaayah Shivaayah Namah Om ~~~ Dear Vinayak and all honorable members of the group Very happy 61st indipendance day of India. While in retrograde motion it will have to see the Cancer Sign because saturn is travelling towards backward direction and result will be seen only either delayed till it get direct or denied if the matter to be seen in days. Thanks Pram On 8/14/08, vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@ > wrote: Adarniya Guruji's Namaskar, Please calrify whether retrograde planets aspect in reverse zodiac direction or direct zodiac direction. Retrograde Saturn in Kanya Rasi will have its 3rd aspect on Kark rasi or Vrischik rasi. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Dear Prem,Correct me if I am wrong. Your Prasna analogy, is it not premised on KP methods as mentioned in KP Readers? To me it looks so. Secondly, the topic here is Graha Dristi of retrograde planets. I am also interested in learning about this.RegardSunil--- On Fri, 8/15/08, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Please Clarify Retrograde Planet Graha Dristi Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 6:20 AM ~~~ Om Namah Shivaayah Shivaayah Namah Om ~~~ Dear Vinayak Yes it is totally different from transit chart and birth chart. In birth chart plt retrograde means remaining uneasy in the matters or aspect belongs to and in some matters it is not in the fate of native too. But in transit one can wait for the better and improved results after the planet being get direct in motion. Although in fast applying results they prove to be denial but in some matters they give astronishing results now suppose saturn is in retrograde in birth chart then will have to give good results in the transit when satrun is in retrograde motion and it will give good result bias in services bias and in all those matter which is governed by saturn. That make to prove the idomatic sentence " Saturn delays but never deny's ". Lot of narrow ascapes have been seen when planet gets retrograde in the bad houses. for instance 3H makes angle of 6th from 10H [Karyesh] and 12th from 4H [House] and 9th from 7H [Partner or opponent] so in that manner one can reach or tackle the 3H under control by means of remedial. In the same manner on can get advantage of this analysis regrading 8H or 12H but it is only for those who can relate the house in transferable manner and have a good eye on planet which is provoking to get remedy. For example In Prashna Chart suppose one come to ask you Will I be able to clear off loans? When? Whether one invests money or incurs expenditure or repays loan, one have to judge the 12H and find out whether the SubLord of 12H is either Retrograde or SubLord's StarLord is retrograde. If either of that is retrograde, one cannot either invest or repay Loan. Now see the condition, if the SubLord or SubLord's StarLord is in direct motion, then one will invest or repay loan. Now if the SubLord is Saturn, then there will be delay and some obstacles to repay Loans. If Mercury, one will correspond, or send agent for compromise to repay in instalments. If Jupiter, one will face Lawful means and the amount will be repayed by legitimate or lumpsum money by showing bankcrupcy. If Mars, the lender threatens and then money is repayed. If Moon, Very quickly money is repayed. If Venus, with the spirit of compromise and sweet words one repays. If Sun, through the help of either father or Government officials one repays. Now if SAturn is able to aspect the SubLord, and it may be any planet, then one will repays only in part of the whole or repays part by part. Hope so you will get the main image of Retrograde Planet consequence. Thanks.Pram On 8/15/08, vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie wrote: Adarniya Guruji Namaskar, Thank you for clarifying. Are the aspects in reverse direction for retrograde planets irrespective of Birth chart or transit chart or is there a difference. Regards--- On Fri, 8/15/08, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Please Clarify Retrograde Planet Graha Dristi Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 9:34 AM ~~~ Om Namah Shivaayah Shivaayah Namah Om ~~~ Dear Vinayak and all honorable members of the group Very happy 61st indipendance day of India. While in retrograde motion it will have to see the Cancer Sign because saturn is travelling towards backward direction and result will be seen only either delayed till it get direct or denied if the matter to be seen in days. Thanks Pram On 8/14/08, vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@ > wrote: Adarniya Guruji's Namaskar, Please calrify whether retrograde planets aspect in reverse zodiac direction or direct zodiac direction. Retrograde Saturn in Kanya Rasi will have its 3rd aspect on Kark rasi or Vrischik rasi. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Dear Sunil Feel strange to see your way of learning may be you dont know that there are qualities of learning too. It is not the matter what you are learning it is what a Guru want to give to the student. Picturisation is better then essay writting. it is up to students level what is they are grasping, You must know the learning rule be a good Observer and do not criticise condempt or complain. If this does not belong to you then it is not for you. Analysis base cannot be the hurdle in analysing the charts it is only catching the events in the trap manner. There is lot of difference in transidental Aspect and actual Aspect. Thanks Pram On 8/15/08, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21 wrote: Dear Prem,Correct me if I am wrong. Your Prasna analogy, is it not premised on KP methods as mentioned in KP Readers? To me it looks so. Secondly, the topic here is Graha Dristi of retrograde planets. I am also interested in learning about this. RegardSunil--- On Fri, 8/15/08, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Please Clarify Retrograde Planet Graha Dristi Friday, August 15, 2008, 6:20 AM ~~~ Om Namah Shivaayah Shivaayah Namah Om ~~~ Dear Vinayak Yes it is totally different from transit chart and birth chart. In birth chart plt retrograde means remaining uneasy in the matters or aspect belongs to and in some matters it is not in the fate of native too. But in transit one can wait for the better and improved results after the planet being get direct in motion. Although in fast applying results they prove to be denial but in some matters they give astronishing results now suppose saturn is in retrograde in birth chart then will have to give good results in the transit when satrun is in retrograde motion and it will give good result bias in services bias and in all those matter which is governed by saturn. That make to prove the idomatic sentence " Saturn delays but never deny's " . Lot of narrow ascapes have been seen when planet gets retrograde in the bad houses. for instance 3H makes angle of 6th from 10H [Karyesh] and 12th from 4H [House] and 9th from 7H [Partner or opponent] so in that manner one can reach or tackle the 3H under control by means of remedial. In the same manner on can get advantage of this analysis regrading 8H or 12H but it is only for those who can relate the house in transferable manner and have a good eye on planet which is provoking to get remedy. For example In Prashna Chart suppose one come to ask you Will I be able to clear off loans? When? Whether one invests money or incurs expenditure or repays loan, one have to judge the 12H and find out whether the SubLord of 12H is either Retrograde or SubLord's StarLord is retrograde. If either of that is retrograde, one cannot either invest or repay Loan. Now see the condition, if the SubLord or SubLord's StarLord is in direct motion, then one will invest or repay loan. Now if the SubLord is Saturn, then there will be delay and some obstacles to repay Loans. If Mercury, one will correspond, or send agent for compromise to repay in instalments. If Jupiter, one will face Lawful means and the amount will be repayed by legitimate or lumpsum money by showing bankcrupcy. If Mars, the lender threatens and then money is repayed. If Moon, Very quickly money is repayed. If Venus, with the spirit of compromise and sweet words one repays. If Sun, through the help of either father or Government officials one repays. Now if SAturn is able to aspect the SubLord, and it may be any planet, then one will repays only in part of the whole or repays part by part. Hope so you will get the main image of Retrograde Planet consequence. Thanks.Pram On 8/15/08, vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie wrote: Adarniya Guruji Namaskar, Thank you for clarifying. Are the aspects in reverse direction for retrograde planets irrespective of Birth chart or transit chart or is there a difference. Regards--- On Fri, 8/15/08, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Please Clarify Retrograde Planet Graha Dristi Friday, August 15, 2008, 9:34 AM ~~~ Om Namah Shivaayah Shivaayah Namah Om ~~~ Dear Vinayak and all honorable members of the group Very happy 61st indipendance day of India. While in retrograde motion it will have to see the Cancer Sign because saturn is travelling towards backward direction and result will be seen only either delayed till it get direct or denied if the matter to be seen in days. Thanks Pram On 8/14/08, vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@ > wrote: Adarniya Guruji's Namaskar, Please calrify whether retrograde planets aspect in reverse zodiac direction or direct zodiac direction. Retrograde Saturn in Kanya Rasi will have its 3rd aspect on Kark rasi or Vrischik rasi. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Adarniya Guruji Pranaam, Thank you for clarifying the doubt. Regards--- On Fri, 8/15/08, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Please Clarify Retrograde Planet Graha Dristi Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 6:50 PM ~~~ Om Namah Shivaayah Shivaayah Namah Om ~~~ Dear Vinayak Yes it is totally different from transit chart and birth chart. In birth chart plt retrograde means remaining uneasy in the matters or aspect belongs to and in some matters it is not in the fate of native too. But in transit one can wait for the better and improved results after the planet being get direct in motion. Although in fast applying results they prove to be denial but in some matters they give astronishing results now suppose saturn is in retrograde in birth chart then will have to give good results in the transit when satrun is in retrograde motion and it will give good result bias in services bias and in all those matter which is governed by saturn. That make to prove the idomatic sentence " Saturn delays but never deny's ". Lot of narrow ascapes have been seen when planet gets retrograde in the bad houses. for instance 3H makes angle of 6th from 10H [Karyesh] and 12th from 4H [House] and 9th from 7H [Partner or opponent] so in that manner one can reach or tackle the 3H under control by means of remedial. In the same manner on can get advantage of this analysis regrading 8H or 12H but it is only for those who can relate the house in transferable manner and have a good eye on planet which is provoking to get remedy. For example In Prashna Chart suppose one come to ask you Will I be able to clear off loans? When? Whether one invests money or incurs expenditure or repays loan, one have to judge the 12H and find out whether the SubLord of 12H is either Retrograde or SubLord's StarLord is retrograde. If either of that is retrograde, one cannot either invest or repay Loan. Now see the condition, if the SubLord or SubLord's StarLord is in direct motion, then one will invest or repay loan. Now if the SubLord is Saturn, then there will be delay and some obstacles to repay Loans. If Mercury, one will correspond, or send agent for compromise to repay in instalments. If Jupiter, one will face Lawful means and the amount will be repayed by legitimate or lumpsum money by showing bankcrupcy. If Mars, the lender threatens and then money is repayed. If Moon, Very quickly money is repayed. If Venus, with the spirit of compromise and sweet words one repays. If Sun, through the help of either father or Government officials one repays. Now if SAturn is able to aspect the SubLord, and it may be any planet, then one will repays only in part of the whole or repays part by part. Hope so you will get the main image of Retrograde Planet consequence. Thanks.Pram On 8/15/08, vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@ > wrote: Adarniya Guruji Namaskar, Thank you for clarifying. Are the aspects in reverse direction for retrograde planets irrespective of Birth chart or transit chart or is there a difference. Regards--- On Fri, 8/15/08, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> wrote: Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Please Clarify Retrograde Planet Graha DristiFriday, August 15, 2008, 9:34 AM ~~~ Om Namah Shivaayah Shivaayah Namah Om ~~~ Dear Vinayak and all honorable members of the group Very happy 61st indipendance day of India. While in retrograde motion it will have to see the Cancer Sign because saturn is travelling towards backward direction and result will be seen only either delayed till it get direct or denied if the matter to be seen in days. Thanks Pram On 8/14/08, vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@ > wrote: Adarniya Guruji's Namaskar, Please calrify whether retrograde planets aspect in reverse zodiac direction or direct zodiac direction. Retrograde Saturn in Kanya Rasi will have its 3rd aspect on Kark rasi or Vrischik rasi. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 ||Aum Namo Bhagwate Rudraya|| Dear Vinayak, Retrogression has nothing do with graha dristi order. It remains the same . So Shani in Kanya rasi will aspect Vrischik rasi. regards, Chandan S. vedic astrology , vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie wrote: > > > Adarniya Guruji's Namaskar, > > Please calrify whether retrograde planets aspect in reverse zodiac direction or direct zodiac direction. Retrograde Saturn in Kanya Rasi will have its 3rd aspect on Kark rasi or Vrischik rasi. > > Regards > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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