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Dear Visti,

 

1. Do you mean we have to consider the nakshatra of the graha

lording

tithi+vara, and hence the cause of conflict, or the birth nakshatra?

 

2. The Devata has to be the Guru form of that nakshatra and the

Tattva of that Devata then be seen OR Guru form if lord of mashatra

is Jupiter?

 

Many thanx and Best Regards,

SS

>

>

> > > -------------------------------

--

> ------

> > > ** Visti Larsen <visti@>

> > > *To:*

> > > *Sent:* Thursday, 8 January, 2009 1:51:44 PM

> > > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] tattva conflict - Visti ji and

> others

> > >

> > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

> > > Dear Nagarjuna, Namaskar.

> > > Dakshinamurti is Shiva as the teacher (hence also associated

with

> > > Jupiter) specifically is meant to overcome Surya-grahaa (when

> Rahu

> > > eclipses Sun), hence is the form of the Guru with Agni in it

(to

> > > overcome Tattva-conflict between Vara and Tithi). This worship

> can

> > > overcome wealth problems. Relationship problems due to such a

> conflict

> > > can be countered by Dattatreya worship.

> > >

> > > Hence, Devata and Tattva of Devata has to be taken into account

> when

> > > prescribing remedies for Tattva-conflicts. I.e. had it been

> Punarvasu,

> > > Vishakha or Purvabhadra nakshatra and Garija Karana then the

> worship

> > > would not be for Dakshinamurty nor Dattatreya. Instead Vyasa

> could be

> > > prescribed.

> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > www: http://srigaruda. com

> > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> > >

> > > Cherukuri, Nagajurna skrev:

> > >

> > >> Dear Visti ji,

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Dakshinamurthi is guru of the Sun. I am not able to link

Jupiter

> and

> > >> Dakshinamurthi with my very very limited knowledge. Can you

> please

> > >> explain the general rules to remedy tattva conflict?

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> regards

> > >>

> > >> ~nagarjuna

> > >>

> > >> ------------------------------

--

> -------

> > >>

> > >> ** [ @

> > >> . com ] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen

> > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:22 AM

> > >> *To:*

> > >> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] tattva conflict - Visti ji

and

> others

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

> > >> Dear Nagarjuna, Namaskar.

> > >> For Tattva conflict of Jupiter Dakshinamurti mantra is

required.

> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > >> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@>

> > >>

> > >> Cherukuri, Nagajurna skrev:

> > >>

> > >>> Dear Visti ji,

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> I am reading the first chapter (panchanga) in your book. I

was

> going

> > >>> through some charts that I have and found a “tattva

> conflict†due to

> > >>> Krishna Trayodasi thithi and Guru vara, both lorded by

Jupiter.

> > >>> Scorpio is the Lagna with Jupiter on 11^th house.

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> Can you please let me know how do we remedy this?

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> Thank you in advance

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> nagarjuna

> > >>>

> > >

> > > -------------------------------

--

> ------

> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.

> > >

>

<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..co

> m/invite/>

> > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Visti,1. Do you mean we have to consider the nakshatra of the grahalording tithi+vara, and hence the cause of conflict, or the birth nakshatra?2. The Devata has to be the Guru form of that nakshatra and theTattva of that Devata then be seen OR Guru form if lord of mashatrais Jupiter?Many thanx and Best Regards,SS

 

 

> > > > -------------------------------> --> > ------> > > > ** Visti Larsen <visti@>> > > > *To:* > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, 8 January, 2009 1:51:44 PM> > > > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] tattva conflict - Visti ji and > > others> > > >> > > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£> > > > Dear Nagarjuna, Namaskar.> > > > Dakshinamurti is Shiva as the teacher (hence also associated > with > > > > Jupiter) specifically is meant to overcome Surya-grahaa (when > > Rahu > > > > eclipses Sun), hence is the form of the Guru with Agni in it > (to > > > > overcome Tattva-conflict between Vara and Tithi). This worship > > can > > > > overcome wealth problems. Relationship problems due to such a > > conflict > > > > can be countered by Dattatreya worship.> > > >> > > > Hence, Devata and Tattva of Devata has to be taken into account > > when > > > > prescribing remedies for Tattva-conflicts. I.e. had it been > > Punarvasu, > > > > Vishakha or Purvabhadra nakshatra and Garija Karana then the > > worship > > > > would not be for Dakshinamurty nor Dattatreya. Instead Vyasa > > could be > > > > prescribed.> > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)> > > > www: http://srigaruda. com> > > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > >> > > > Cherukuri, Nagajurna skrev:> > > >> > > >> Dear Visti ji,> > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Dakshinamurthi is guru of the Sun. I am not able to link > Jupiter > > and > > > >> Dakshinamurthi with my very very limited knowledge. Can you > > please > > > >> explain the general rules to remedy tattva conflict?> > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> regards> > > >>> > > >> ~nagarjuna> > > >>> > > >> ------------------------------> --> > -------> > > >>> > > >> ** [ @ > > > >> . com ] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen> > > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:22 AM> > > >> *To:* > > > >> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] tattva conflict - Visti ji > and > > others> > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£> > > >> Dear Nagarjuna, Namaskar.> > > >> For Tattva conflict of Jupiter Dakshinamurti mantra is > required.> > > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > >> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)> > > >> www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>> > > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@>> > > >>> > > >> Cherukuri, Nagajurna skrev:> > > >>> > > >>> Dear Visti ji,> > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> I am reading the first chapter (panchanga) in your book. I > was > > going > > > >>> through some charts that I have and found a “tattva > > conflict†due to > > > >>> Krishna Trayodasi thithi and Guru vara, both lorded by > Jupiter. > > > >>> Scorpio is the Lagna with Jupiter on 11^th house.> > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> Can you please let me know how do we remedy this?> > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> Thank you in advance> > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> nagarjuna> > > >>>> > > >> > > > -------------------------------> --> > ------> > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..co> > m/invite/> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear SS, Namaskar.

No, didn't you get my previous mail in this regard?

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

www: http://srigaruda.com

@: visti

 

 

Soul Sadhak skrev:

 

 

Dear Visti,

 

1. Do you mean we have to consider the nakshatra of the graha

lording tithi+vara, and hence the cause of conflict, or the birth

nakshatra?

 

2. The Devata has to be the Guru form of that nakshatra and the

Tattva of that Devata then be seen OR Guru form if lord of mashatra

is Jupiter?

 

Many thanx and Best Regards,

SS

 

 

 

> > > > -------------------------------

> --

> > ------

> > > > ** Visti Larsen <visti@>

> > > > *To:*

> > > > *Sent:* Thursday, 8 January, 2009 1:51:44 PM

> > > > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] tattva conflict -

Visti ji and

> > others

> > > >

> > > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

> > > > Dear Nagarjuna, Namaskar.

> > > > Dakshinamurti is Shiva as the teacher (hence also

associated

> with

> > > > Jupiter) specifically is meant to overcome

Surya-grahaa (when

> > Rahu

> > > > eclipses Sun), hence is the form of the Guru with

Agni in it

> (to

> > > > overcome Tattva-conflict between Vara and Tithi).

This worship

> > can

> > > > overcome wealth problems. Relationship problems due

to such a

> > conflict

> > > > can be countered by Dattatreya worship.

> > > >

> > > > Hence, Devata and Tattva of Devata has to be taken

into account

> > when

> > > > prescribing remedies for Tattva-conflicts. I.e. had

it been

> > Punarvasu,

> > > > Vishakha or Purvabhadra nakshatra and Garija Karana

then the

> > worship

> > > > would not be for Dakshinamurty nor Dattatreya.

Instead Vyasa

> > could be

> > > > prescribed.

> > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > > www: http://srigaruda. com

> > > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> > > >

> > > > Cherukuri, Nagajurna skrev:

> > > >

> > > >> Dear Visti ji,

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >> Dakshinamurthi is guru of the Sun. I am not

able to link

> Jupiter

> > and

> > > >> Dakshinamurthi with my very very limited

knowledge. Can you

> > please

> > > >> explain the general rules to remedy tattva

conflict?

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >> regards

> > > >>

> > > >> ~nagarjuna

> > > >>

> > > >> ------------------------------

> --

> > -------

> > > >>

> > > >> ** [

@

> > > >> . com ] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen

> > > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:22 AM

> > > >> *To:*

> > > >> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] tattva

conflict - Visti ji

> and

> > others

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

> > > >> Dear Nagarjuna, Namaskar.

> > > >> For Tattva conflict of Jupiter Dakshinamurti

mantra is

> required.

> > > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > >> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > >> www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> > > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@>

> > > >>

> > > >> Cherukuri, Nagajurna skrev:

> > > >>

> > > >>> Dear Visti ji,

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> I am reading the first chapter (panchanga)

in your book. I

> was

> > going

> > > >>> through some charts that I have and found a

“tattva

> > conflict†due to

> > > >>> Krishna Trayodasi thithi and Guru vara,

both lorded by

> Jupiter.

> > > >>> Scorpio is the Lagna with Jupiter on 11^th

house.

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Can you please let me know how do we remedy

this?

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Thank you in advance

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> nagarjuna

> > > >>>

> > > >

> > > > -------------------------------

> --

> > ------

> > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy!

Invite them now.

> > > >

> >

> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..co

> > m/invite/>

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Visti,

 

No, I havent recieved any! I checked the thread and the mailbox over

and over - but cant find!

Would be nice if you answer my queries.

 

Best Regards,

SS

 

 

 

, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> ??? ??? ?????

> Dear SS, Namaskar.

> No, didn't you get my previous mail in this regard?

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> www: http://srigaruda.com

> @: visti

>

> Soul Sadhak skrev:

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > 1. Do you mean we have to consider the nakshatra of the graha

> > lording tithi+vara, and hence the cause of conflict, or the birth

> > nakshatra?

> >

> > 2. The Devata has to be the Guru form of that nakshatra and the

> > Tattva of that Devata then be seen OR Guru form if lord of

mashatra

> > is Jupiter?

> >

> > Many thanx and Best Regards,

> > SS

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > > > > -------------------------

------

> > > --

> > > > ------

> > > > > > ** Visti Larsen <visti@>

> > > > > > *To:*

> > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, 8 January, 2009 1:51:44 PM

> > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] tattva conflict - Visti

ji and

> > > > others

> > > > > >

> > > > > > हरà¥++ राम à¤.à¥fषà¥?ण

> > > > > > Dear Nagarjuna, Namaskar.

> > > > > > Dakshinamurti is Shiva as the teacher (hence also

associated

> > > with

> > > > > > Jupiter) specifically is meant to overcome Surya-grahaa

(when

> > > > Rahu

> > > > > > eclipses Sun), hence is the form of the Guru with Agni in

it

> > > (to

> > > > > > overcome Tattva-conflict between Vara and Tithi). This

worship

> > > > can

> > > > > > overcome wealth problems. Relationship problems due to

such a

> > > > conflict

> > > > > > can be countered by Dattatreya worship.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hence, Devata and Tattva of Devata has to be taken into

account

> > > > when

> > > > > > prescribing remedies for Tattva-conflicts. I.e. had it

been

> > > > Punarvasu,

> > > > > > Vishakha or Purvabhadra nakshatra and Garija Karana then

the

> > > > worship

> > > > > > would not be for Dakshinamurty nor Dattatreya. Instead

Vyasa

> > > > could be

> > > > > > prescribed.

> > > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > > > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com

> > > > > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cherukuri, Nagajurna skrev:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >> Dear Visti ji,

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> Dakshinamurthi is guru of the Sun. I am not able to link

> > > Jupiter

> > > > and

> > > > > >> Dakshinamurthi with my very very limited knowledge. Can

you

> > > > please

> > > > > >> explain the general rules to remedy tattva conflict?

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> regards

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> ~nagarjuna

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> ------------------------

------

> > > --

> > > > -------

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> ** [

@

> > > > > >> . com ] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen

> > > > > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:22 AM

> > > > > >> *To:*

> > > > > >> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] tattva conflict - Visti

ji

> > > and

> > > > others

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> हरà¥++ राम à¤.à¥fषà¥?ण

> > > > > >> Dear Nagarjuna, Namaskar.

> > > > > >> For Tattva conflict of Jupiter Dakshinamurti mantra is

> > > required.

> > > > > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > > > >> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > > > >> www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> > > > > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> Cherukuri, Nagajurna skrev:

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>> Dear Visti ji,

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> I am reading the first chapter (panchanga) in your

book. I

> > > was

> > > > going

> > > > > >>> through some charts that I have and found a âEURoetattva

> > > > conflictâEUR? due to

> > > > > >>> Krishna Trayodasi thithi and Guru vara, both lorded by

> > > Jupiter.

> > > > > >>> Scorpio is the Lagna with Jupiter on 11^th house.

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> Can you please let me know how do we remedy this?

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> Thank you in advance

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> nagarjuna

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -------------------------

------

> > > --

> > > > ------

> > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them

now.

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > >

<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..co

> > > > m/invite/>

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear SS, Namaskar.

We're not on the same page.

My reference to Nakshatra was to the Janma Nakshatra and its

association with the lord of the Karana where they being Vayu and

Prthvi Tattva respectively cause a conflict once associating.

 

The reference to the Guru was purely because in the example Jupiter was

the Tithi and Vara lord.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

www: http://srigaruda.com

@: visti

 

 

Soul Sadhak skrev:

 

 

Dear Visti,

 

No, I havent recieved any! I checked the thread and the mailbox over

and over - but cant find!

Would be nice if you answer my queries.

 

Best Regards,

SS

 

,

Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> ??? ??? ?????

> Dear SS, Namaskar.

> No, didn't you get my previous mail in this regard?

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> www: http://srigaruda.com

> @: visti

>

> Soul Sadhak skrev:

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > 1. Do you mean we have to consider the nakshatra of the graha

> > lording tithi+vara, and hence the cause of conflict, or the

birth

> > nakshatra?

> >

> > 2. The Devata has to be the Guru form of that nakshatra and

the

> > Tattva of that Devata then be seen OR Guru form if lord of

mashatra

> > is Jupiter?

> >

> > Many thanx and Best Regards,

> > SS

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > > > > -------------------------

------

> > > --

> > > > ------

> > > > > > ** Visti Larsen <visti@>

> > > > > > *To:*

> > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, 8 January, 2009 1:51:44

PM

> > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] tattva

conflict - Visti

ji and

> > > > others

> > > > > >

> > > > > > हरà¥++ राम à¤.à¥fषà¥?ण

> > > > > > Dear Nagarjuna, Namaskar.

> > > > > > Dakshinamurti is Shiva as the teacher

(hence also

associated

> > > with

> > > > > > Jupiter) specifically is meant to

overcome Surya-grahaa

(when

> > > > Rahu

> > > > > > eclipses Sun), hence is the form of the

Guru with Agni in

it

> > > (to

> > > > > > overcome Tattva-conflict between Vara and

Tithi). This

worship

> > > > can

> > > > > > overcome wealth problems. Relationship

problems due to

such a

> > > > conflict

> > > > > > can be countered by Dattatreya worship.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hence, Devata and Tattva of Devata has to

be taken into

account

> > > > when

> > > > > > prescribing remedies for

Tattva-conflicts. I.e. had it

been

> > > > Punarvasu,

> > > > > > Vishakha or Purvabhadra nakshatra and

Garija Karana then

the

> > > > worship

> > > > > > would not be for Dakshinamurty nor

Dattatreya. Instead

Vyasa

> > > > could be

> > > > > > prescribed.

> > > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > > ------------ --------- ---------

--------- ----

> > > > > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com

> > > > > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cherukuri, Nagajurna skrev:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >> Dear Visti ji,

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> Dakshinamurthi is guru of the Sun. I

am not able to link

> > > Jupiter

> > > > and

> > > > > >> Dakshinamurthi with my very very

limited knowledge. Can

you

> > > > please

> > > > > >> explain the general rules to remedy

tattva conflict?

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> regards

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> ~nagarjuna

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> ------------------------

------

> > > --

> > > > -------

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> ** @ .

com [

@

> > > > > >> . com ] *On Behalf Of

*Visti Larsen

> > > > > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 07, 2009

2:22 AM

> > > > > >> *To:*

> > > > > >> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

tattva conflict - Visti

ji

> > > and

> > > > others

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> हरà¥++ राम à¤.à¥fषà¥?ण

> > > > > >> Dear Nagarjuna, Namaskar.

> > > > > >> For Tattva conflict of Jupiter

Dakshinamurti mantra is

> > > required.

> > > > > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > >> ------------ --------- ---------

--------- ----

> > > > > >> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > > > >> www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> > > > > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

<visti@>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> Cherukuri, Nagajurna skrev:

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>> Dear Visti ji,

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> I am reading the first chapter

(panchanga) in your

book. I

> > > was

> > > > going

> > > > > >>> through some charts that I have

and found a âEURoetattva

> > > > conflictâEUR? due to

> > > > > >>> Krishna Trayodasi thithi and Guru

vara, both lorded by

> > > Jupiter.

> > > > > >>> Scorpio is the Lagna with Jupiter

on 11^th house.

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> Can you please let me know how do

we remedy this?

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> Thank you in advance

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> nagarjuna

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -------------------------

------

> > > --

> > > > ------

> > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and

enjoy! Invite them

now.

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > >

<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..co

> > > > m/invite/>

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

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Dear Visti,

 

If i understood correctly, then Tattva of the Devata has to be in

accordance with the tattva that is under conflict (agni for vara,

jala for tithi etc)?

 

but Devata pertaining to which panchanga element would be preferred -

e.g. in tithi-vara conflict - is it vara (agni type) or tithi (jala

type): i think in the example below u indicate it wud be depending on

the problem/target area of life....please can u clarify why u said

wealth for vara; since vara wud signify health.

 

Many thanx and Best Regards,

SS

 

 

 

, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> ??? ??? ?????

> Dear SS, Namaskar.

> We're not on the same page.

> My reference to Nakshatra was to the Janma Nakshatra and its

association

> with the lord of the Karana where they being Vayu and Prthvi Tattva

> respectively cause a conflict once associating.

>

> The reference to the Guru was purely because in the example Jupiter

was

> the Tithi and Vara lord.

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> www: http://srigaruda.com

> @: visti

>

> Soul Sadhak skrev:

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > No, I havent recieved any! I checked the thread and the mailbox

over

> > and over - but cant find!

> > Would be nice if you answer my queries.

> >

> > Best Regards,

> > SS

> >

> >

> > <%40>, Visti Larsen <visti@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > Dear SS, Namaskar.

> > > No, didn't you get my previous mail in this regard?

> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > ----------

> > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> > > @: visti@

> > >

> > > Soul Sadhak skrev:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Visti,

> > > >

> > > > 1. Do you mean we have to consider the nakshatra of the graha

> > > > lording tithi+vara, and hence the cause of conflict, or the

birth

> > > > nakshatra?

> > > >

> > > > 2. The Devata has to be the Guru form of that nakshatra and

the

> > > > Tattva of that Devata then be seen OR Guru form if lord of

> > mashatra

> > > > is Jupiter?

> > > >

> > > > Many thanx and Best Regards,

> > > > SS

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > ---------------------

----

> > ------

> > > > > --

> > > > > > ------

> > > > > > > > ** Visti Larsen <visti@>

> > > > > > > > *To:*

> > <%40>

> > > > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, 8 January, 2009 1:51:44 PM

> > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] tattva conflict -

Visti

> > ji and

> > > > > > others

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > हरà¥++ राम à¤.à¥fषà¥?ण

> > > > > > > > Dear Nagarjuna, Namaskar.

> > > > > > > > Dakshinamurti is Shiva as the teacher (hence also

> > associated

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > Jupiter) specifically is meant to overcome Surya-

grahaa

> > (when

> > > > > > Rahu

> > > > > > > > eclipses Sun), hence is the form of the Guru with

Agni in

> > it

> > > > > (to

> > > > > > > > overcome Tattva-conflict between Vara and Tithi). This

> > worship

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > overcome wealth problems. Relationship problems due to

> > such a

> > > > > > conflict

> > > > > > > > can be countered by Dattatreya worship.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hence, Devata and Tattva of Devata has to be taken

into

> > account

> > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > prescribing remedies for Tattva-conflicts. I.e. had it

> > been

> > > > > > Punarvasu,

> > > > > > > > Vishakha or Purvabhadra nakshatra and Garija Karana

then

> > the

> > > > > > worship

> > > > > > > > would not be for Dakshinamurty nor Dattatreya. Instead

> > Vyasa

> > > > > > could be

> > > > > > > > prescribed.

> > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > > > > > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > > > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com

> > > > > > > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Cherukuri, Nagajurna skrev:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >> Dear Visti ji,

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> Dakshinamurthi is guru of the Sun. I am not able to

link

> > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > >> Dakshinamurthi with my very very limited knowledge.

Can

> > you

> > > > > > please

> > > > > > > >> explain the general rules to remedy tattva conflict?

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> regards

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> ~nagarjuna

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> --------------------

----

> > ------

> > > > > --

> > > > > > -------

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> ** [

> > @

> > > > > > > >> . com ] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen

> > > > > > > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:22 AM

> > > > > > > >> *To:*

> > > > > > > >> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] tattva conflict -

Visti

> > ji

> > > > > and

> > > > > > others

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> हरà¥++ राम à¤.à¥fषà¥?ण

> > > > > > > >> Dear Nagarjuna, Namaskar.

> > > > > > > >> For Tattva conflict of Jupiter Dakshinamurti mantra

is

> > > > > required.

> > > > > > > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > > > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > > > > > >> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > > > > > >> www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/

> > <http://srigaruda.com/>>

> > > > > > > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@>

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> Cherukuri, Nagajurna skrev:

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>> Dear Visti ji,

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>> I am reading the first chapter (panchanga) in your

> > book. I

> > > > > was

> > > > > > going

> > > > > > > >>> through some charts that I have and found a

âEURoetattva

> > > > > > conflictâEUR? due to

> > > > > > > >>> Krishna Trayodasi thithi and Guru vara, both lorded

by

> > > > > Jupiter.

> > > > > > > >>> Scorpio is the Lagna with Jupiter on 11^th house.

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>> Can you please let me know how do we remedy this?

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>> Thank you in advance

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>> nagarjuna

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ---------------------

----

> > ------

> > > > > --

> > > > > > ------

> > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite

them

> > now.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> >

<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..co

 

> >

<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..co

>

> > > > > > m/invite/>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

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हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear SS, Namaskar.

If the Vara-Tithi conflict influences the second house then it may

afflict wealth as Agni signifies resources. Similarly if it associates

with lagna it can affect health. Tithi is Jala tattva and hence a

tithi-vara dosha association with fifth house can affect children

whilst with the seventh it affects relationships.

In this way you can differentiate and based on the problem advise the

appropriate Devata based on 1. the Graha afflicted by the Dosha and 2.

the Tattva of the Dosha.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

www: http://srigaruda.com

@: visti

 

 

Soul Sadhak skrev:

 

 

Dear Visti,

 

If i understood correctly, then Tattva of the Devata has to be in

accordance with the tattva that is under conflict (agni for vara,

jala for tithi etc)?

 

but Devata pertaining to which panchanga element would be preferred -

e.g. in tithi-vara conflict - is it vara (agni type) or tithi (jala

type): i think in the example below u indicate it wud be depending on

the problem/target area of life....please can u clarify why u said

wealth for vara; since vara wud signify health.

 

Many thanx and Best Regards,

SS

 

,

Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> ??? ??? ?????

> Dear SS, Namaskar.

> We're not on the same page.

> My reference to Nakshatra was to the Janma Nakshatra and its

association

> with the lord of the Karana where they being Vayu and Prthvi

Tattva

> respectively cause a conflict once associating.

>

> The reference to the Guru was purely because in the example

Jupiter

was

> the Tithi and Vara lord.

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> www: http://srigaruda.com

> @: visti

>

> Soul Sadhak skrev:

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > No, I havent recieved any! I checked the thread and the

mailbox

over

> > and over - but cant find!

> > Would be nice if you answer my queries.

> >

> > Best Regards,

> > SS

> >

> >

 

> > <%40>,

Visti Larsen <visti@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > Dear SS, Namaskar.

> > > No, didn't you get my previous mail in this regard?

> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > ----------

> > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> > > @: visti@

> > >

> > > Soul Sadhak skrev:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Visti,

> > > >

> > > > 1. Do you mean we have to consider the nakshatra of

the graha

> > > > lording tithi+vara, and hence the cause of

conflict, or the

birth

> > > > nakshatra?

> > > >

> > > > 2. The Devata has to be the Guru form of that

nakshatra and

the

> > > > Tattva of that Devata then be seen OR Guru form if

lord of

> > mashatra

> > > > is Jupiter?

> > > >

> > > > Many thanx and Best Regards,

> > > > SS

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > ---------------------

----

> > ------

> > > > > --

> > > > > > ------

> > > > > > > > ** Visti Larsen

<visti@>

> > > > > > > > *To:*

 

> > <%40>

> > > > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, 8 January,

2009 1:51:44 PM

> > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] tattva conflict -

Visti

> > ji and

> > > > > > others

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > हरà¥++ राम

à¤.à¥fषà¥?ण

> > > > > > > > Dear Nagarjuna, Namaskar.

> > > > > > > > Dakshinamurti is Shiva as the

teacher (hence also

> > associated

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > Jupiter) specifically is meant

to overcome Surya-

grahaa

> > (when

> > > > > > Rahu

> > > > > > > > eclipses Sun), hence is the

form of the Guru with

Agni in

> > it

> > > > > (to

> > > > > > > > overcome Tattva-conflict

between Vara and Tithi). This

> > worship

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > overcome wealth problems.

Relationship problems due to

> > such a

> > > > > > conflict

> > > > > > > > can be countered by Dattatreya

worship.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hence, Devata and Tattva of

Devata has to be taken

into

> > account

> > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > prescribing remedies for

Tattva-conflicts. I.e. had it

> > been

> > > > > > Punarvasu,

> > > > > > > > Vishakha or Purvabhadra

nakshatra and Garija Karana

then

> > the

> > > > > > worship

> > > > > > > > would not be for Dakshinamurty

nor Dattatreya. Instead

> > Vyasa

> > > > > > could be

> > > > > > > > prescribed.

> > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > > > > ------------ ---------

--------- --------- ----

> > > > > > > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > > > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com

> > > > > > > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Cherukuri, Nagajurna skrev:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >> Dear Visti ji,

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> Dakshinamurthi is guru of

the Sun. I am not able to

link

> > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > >> Dakshinamurthi with my very

very limited knowledge.

Can

> > you

> > > > > > please

> > > > > > > >> explain the general rules

to remedy tattva conflict?

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> regards

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> ~nagarjuna

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> --------------------

----

> > ------

> > > > > --

> > > > > > -------

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> ** @

. com [

> > @

> > > > > > > >> . com ] *On

Behalf Of *Visti Larsen

> > > > > > > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January

07, 2009 2:22 AM

> > > > > > > >> *To:* @

. com

> > > > > > > >> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] tattva conflict -

Visti

> > ji

> > > > > and

> > > > > > others

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> हरà¥++ राम

à¤.à¥fषà¥?ण

> > > > > > > >> Dear Nagarjuna, Namaskar.

> > > > > > > >> For Tattva conflict of

Jupiter Dakshinamurti mantra

is

> > > > > required.

> > > > > > > >> Yours sincerely, Visti

Larsen

> > > > > > > >> ------------ ---------

--------- --------- ----

> > > > > > > >> Jyotish Guru (Vedic

Astrologer)

> > > > > > > >> www: http://srigaruda.

com <http://srigaruda.com/

 

> > <http://srigaruda.com/>>

> > > > > > > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

<visti@>

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> Cherukuri, Nagajurna skrev:

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>> Dear Visti ji,

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>> I am reading the first

chapter (panchanga) in your

> > book. I

> > > > > was

> > > > > > going

> > > > > > > >>> through some charts

that I have and found a

âEURoetattva

> > > > > > conflictâEUR? due to

> > > > > > > >>> Krishna Trayodasi

thithi and Guru vara, both lorded

by

> > > > > Jupiter.

> > > > > > > >>> Scorpio is the Lagna

with Jupiter on 11^th house.

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>> Can you please let me

know how do we remedy this?

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>> Thank you in advance

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>> nagarjuna

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ---------------------

----

> > ------

> > > > > --

> > > > > > ------

> > > > > > > > Add more friends to your

messenger and enjoy! Invite

them

> > now.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> >

<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..co

 

> >

<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..co

>

> > > > > > m/invite/>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

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Thank You :-)

 

, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> ??? ??? ?????

> Dear SS, Namaskar.

> If the Vara-Tithi conflict influences the second house then it may

> afflict wealth as Agni signifies resources. Similarly if it

associates

> with lagna it can affect health. Tithi is Jala tattva and hence a

> tithi-vara dosha association with fifth house can affect children

whilst

> with the seventh it affects relationships.

> In this way you can differentiate and based on the problem advise

the

> appropriate Devata based on 1. the Graha afflicted by the Dosha and

2.

> the Tattva of the Dosha.

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> www: http://srigaruda.com

> @: visti

>

> Soul Sadhak skrev:

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > If i understood correctly, then Tattva of the Devata has to be in

> > accordance with the tattva that is under conflict (agni for vara,

> > jala for tithi etc)?

> >

> > but Devata pertaining to which panchanga element would be

preferred -

> > e.g. in tithi-vara conflict - is it vara (agni type) or tithi

(jala

> > type): i think in the example below u indicate it wud be

depending on

> > the problem/target area of life....please can u clarify why u said

> > wealth for vara; since vara wud signify health.

> >

> > Many thanx and Best Regards,

> > SS

> >

> >

> > <%40>, Visti Larsen <visti@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > Dear SS, Namaskar.

> > > We're not on the same page.

> > > My reference to Nakshatra was to the Janma Nakshatra and its

> > association

> > > with the lord of the Karana where they being Vayu and Prthvi

Tattva

> > > respectively cause a conflict once associating.

> > >

> > > The reference to the Guru was purely because in the example

Jupiter

> > was

> > > the Tithi and Vara lord.

> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > ----------

> > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> > > @: visti@

> > >

> > > Soul Sadhak skrev:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Visti,

> > > >

> > > > No, I havent recieved any! I checked the thread and the

mailbox

> > over

> > > > and over - but cant find!

> > > > Would be nice if you answer my queries.

> > > >

> > > > Best Regards,

> > > > SS

> > > >

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>, Visti Larsen <visti@>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > > > Dear SS, Namaskar.

> > > > > No, didn't you get my previous mail in this regard?

> > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > ----------

> > > > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>>

> > > > > @: visti@

> > > > >

> > > > > Soul Sadhak skrev:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Visti,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Do you mean we have to consider the nakshatra of the

graha

> > > > > > lording tithi+vara, and hence the cause of conflict, or

the

> > birth

> > > > > > nakshatra?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. The Devata has to be the Guru form of that nakshatra

and

> > the

> > > > > > Tattva of that Devata then be seen OR Guru form if lord of

> > > > mashatra

> > > > > > is Jupiter?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many thanx and Best Regards,

> > > > > > SS

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > -----------------

----

> > ----

> > > > ------

> > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > > ------

> > > > > > > > > > ** Visti Larsen <visti@>

> > > > > > > > > > *To:*

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, 8 January, 2009 1:51:44 PM

> > > > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] tattva conflict -

> > Visti

> > > > ji and

> > > > > > > > others

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > हरà¥++ राम à¤.à¥fषà¥?ण

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Nagarjuna, Namaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > Dakshinamurti is Shiva as the teacher (hence also

> > > > associated

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > Jupiter) specifically is meant to overcome Surya-

> > grahaa

> > > > (when

> > > > > > > > Rahu

> > > > > > > > > > eclipses Sun), hence is the form of the Guru with

> > Agni in

> > > > it

> > > > > > > (to

> > > > > > > > > > overcome Tattva-conflict between Vara and Tithi).

This

> > > > worship

> > > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > > overcome wealth problems. Relationship problems

due to

> > > > such a

> > > > > > > > conflict

> > > > > > > > > > can be countered by Dattatreya worship.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hence, Devata and Tattva of Devata has to be taken

> > into

> > > > account

> > > > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > > > prescribing remedies for Tattva-conflicts. I.e.

had it

> > > > been

> > > > > > > > Punarvasu,

> > > > > > > > > > Vishakha or Purvabhadra nakshatra and Garija

Karana

> > then

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > worship

> > > > > > > > > > would not be for Dakshinamurty nor Dattatreya.

Instead

> > > > Vyasa

> > > > > > > > could be

> > > > > > > > > > prescribed.

> > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > > > > > > > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > > > > > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com

> > > > > > > > > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Cherukuri, Nagajurna skrev:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >> Dear Visti ji,

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> Dakshinamurthi is guru of the Sun. I am not able

to

> > link

> > > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > >> Dakshinamurthi with my very very limited

knowledge.

> > Can

> > > > you

> > > > > > > > please

> > > > > > > > > >> explain the general rules to remedy tattva

conflict?

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> regards

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> ~nagarjuna

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> ----------------

----

> > ----

> > > > ------

> > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > > -------

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> ** [

> > > > @

> > > > > > > > > >> . com ] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen

> > > > > > > > > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:22 AM

> > > > > > > > > >> *To:*

> > > > > > > > > >> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] tattva

conflict -

> > Visti

> > > > ji

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > others

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> हरà¥++ राम à¤.à¥fषà¥?ण

> > > > > > > > > >> Dear Nagarjuna, Namaskar.

> > > > > > > > > >> For Tattva conflict of Jupiter Dakshinamurti

mantra

> > is

> > > > > > > required.

> > > > > > > > > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > > > > > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > > > > > > > >> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > > > > > > > >> www: http://srigaruda. com

<http://srigaruda.com/

> > <http://srigaruda.com/>

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>

> > > > > > > > > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> Cherukuri, Nagajurna skrev:

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Visti ji,

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> I am reading the first chapter (panchanga) in

your

> > > > book. I

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > going

> > > > > > > > > >>> through some charts that I have and found a

> > âEURoetattva

> > > > > > > > conflictâEUR? due to

> > > > > > > > > >>> Krishna Trayodasi thithi and Guru vara, both

lorded

> > by

> > > > > > > Jupiter.

> > > > > > > > > >>> Scorpio is the Lagna with Jupiter on 11^th

house.

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Can you please let me know how do we remedy

this?

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Thank you in advance

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> nagarjuna

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > -----------------

----

> > ----

> > > > ------

> > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > > ------

> > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy!

Invite

> > them

> > > > now.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> >

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> >

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> >

> > > >

> >

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> >

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>

> > >

> > > > > > > > m/invite/>

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> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Dear Visti,

 

3 doubt as follows.

 

1.

When Nodes rule a tithi or nakshatra, how do we approach the tatwa

conflict.

 

Example, if someone is born in Ashtami tithi (Lord-Rahu) then how to

assess vara-tithi tatwa conflict, as no vara is lorded by Rahu.

 

Similarly, if someone is born in Rahu owned nakshatra, then how to

assess nakshatra-karna tatwa conflict, as no karna is lorded by Rahu.

---------

2.

In tatwa conflict, we are looking for the same lordship of Vara_tithi

and nakshatra_karna. When is the tatwa of tithis (Nanda,Bhadra...) to

be used?

---------

3.

The tatwa of tithi in your book (Page 4) and that in Brhat Nakshatra

(P 49) fiffer in tatwa classification. Is there some aspects more to

understand in this regards.

 

Your wisdom is required.

 

Regards,

 

Vijay Kumar

 

, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> ??? ??? ?????

> Dear SS, Namaskar.

> If the Vara-Tithi conflict influences the second house then it may

> afflict wealth as Agni signifies resources. Similarly if it

associates

> with lagna it can affect health. Tithi is Jala tattva and hence a

> tithi-vara dosha association with fifth house can affect children

whilst

> with the seventh it affects relationships.

> In this way you can differentiate and based on the problem advise

the

> appropriate Devata based on 1. the Graha afflicted by the Dosha and

2.

> the Tattva of the Dosha.

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> www: http://srigaruda.com

> @: visti

>

> Soul Sadhak skrev:

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > If i understood correctly, then Tattva of the Devata has to be in

> > accordance with the tattva that is under conflict (agni for vara,

> > jala for tithi etc)?

> >

> > but Devata pertaining to which panchanga element would be

preferred -

> > e.g. in tithi-vara conflict - is it vara (agni type) or tithi

(jala

> > type): i think in the example below u indicate it wud be

depending on

> > the problem/target area of life....please can u clarify why u said

> > wealth for vara; since vara wud signify health.

> >

> > Many thanx and Best Regards,

> > SS

> >

> >

> > <%40>, Visti Larsen <visti@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > Dear SS, Namaskar.

> > > We're not on the same page.

> > > My reference to Nakshatra was to the Janma Nakshatra and its

> > association

> > > with the lord of the Karana where they being Vayu and Prthvi

Tattva

> > > respectively cause a conflict once associating.

> > >

> > > The reference to the Guru was purely because in the example

Jupiter

> > was

> > > the Tithi and Vara lord.

> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > ----------

> > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> > > @: visti@

> > >

> > > Soul Sadhak skrev:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Visti,

> > > >

> > > > No, I havent recieved any! I checked the thread and the

mailbox

> > over

> > > > and over - but cant find!

> > > > Would be nice if you answer my queries.

> > > >

> > > > Best Regards,

> > > > SS

> > > >

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>, Visti Larsen <visti@>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > > > Dear SS, Namaskar.

> > > > > No, didn't you get my previous mail in this regard?

> > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > ----------

> > > > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>>

> > > > > @: visti@

> > > > >

> > > > > Soul Sadhak skrev:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Visti,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Do you mean we have to consider the nakshatra of the

graha

> > > > > > lording tithi+vara, and hence the cause of conflict, or

the

> > birth

> > > > > > nakshatra?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. The Devata has to be the Guru form of that nakshatra

and

> > the

> > > > > > Tattva of that Devata then be seen OR Guru form if lord of

> > > > mashatra

> > > > > > is Jupiter?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many thanx and Best Regards,

> > > > > > SS

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > -----------------

----

> > ----

> > > > ------

> > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > > ------

> > > > > > > > > > ** Visti Larsen <visti@>

> > > > > > > > > > *To:*

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, 8 January, 2009 1:51:44 PM

> > > > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] tattva conflict -

> > Visti

> > > > ji and

> > > > > > > > others

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > हरà¥++ राम à¤.à¥fषà¥?ण

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Nagarjuna, Namaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > Dakshinamurti is Shiva as the teacher (hence also

> > > > associated

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > Jupiter) specifically is meant to overcome Surya-

> > grahaa

> > > > (when

> > > > > > > > Rahu

> > > > > > > > > > eclipses Sun), hence is the form of the Guru with

> > Agni in

> > > > it

> > > > > > > (to

> > > > > > > > > > overcome Tattva-conflict between Vara and Tithi).

This

> > > > worship

> > > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > > overcome wealth problems. Relationship problems

due to

> > > > such a

> > > > > > > > conflict

> > > > > > > > > > can be countered by Dattatreya worship.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hence, Devata and Tattva of Devata has to be taken

> > into

> > > > account

> > > > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > > > prescribing remedies for Tattva-conflicts. I.e.

had it

> > > > been

> > > > > > > > Punarvasu,

> > > > > > > > > > Vishakha or Purvabhadra nakshatra and Garija

Karana

> > then

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > worship

> > > > > > > > > > would not be for Dakshinamurty nor Dattatreya.

Instead

> > > > Vyasa

> > > > > > > > could be

> > > > > > > > > > prescribed.

> > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > > > > > > > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > > > > > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com

> > > > > > > > > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Cherukuri, Nagajurna skrev:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >> Dear Visti ji,

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> Dakshinamurthi is guru of the Sun. I am not able

to

> > link

> > > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > >> Dakshinamurthi with my very very limited

knowledge.

> > Can

> > > > you

> > > > > > > > please

> > > > > > > > > >> explain the general rules to remedy tattva

conflict?

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> regards

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> ~nagarjuna

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> ----------------

----

> > ----

> > > > ------

> > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > > -------

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> ** [

> > > > @

> > > > > > > > > >> . com ] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen

> > > > > > > > > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:22 AM

> > > > > > > > > >> *To:*

> > > > > > > > > >> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] tattva

conflict -

> > Visti

> > > > ji

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > others

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> हरà¥++ राम à¤.à¥fषà¥?ण

> > > > > > > > > >> Dear Nagarjuna, Namaskar.

> > > > > > > > > >> For Tattva conflict of Jupiter Dakshinamurti

mantra

> > is

> > > > > > > required.

> > > > > > > > > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > > > > > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > > > > > > > >> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > > > > > > > >> www: http://srigaruda. com

<http://srigaruda.com/

> > <http://srigaruda.com/>

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>

> > > > > > > > > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> Cherukuri, Nagajurna skrev:

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Visti ji,

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> I am reading the first chapter (panchanga) in

your

> > > > book. I

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > going

> > > > > > > > > >>> through some charts that I have and found a

> > âEURoetattva

> > > > > > > > conflictâEUR? due to

> > > > > > > > > >>> Krishna Trayodasi thithi and Guru vara, both

lorded

> > by

> > > > > > > Jupiter.

> > > > > > > > > >>> Scorpio is the Lagna with Jupiter on 11^th

house.

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Can you please let me know how do we remedy

this?

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Thank you in advance

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> nagarjuna

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > -----------------

----

> > ----

> > > > ------

> > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > > ------

> > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy!

Invite

> > them

> > > > now.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> >

<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..co

 

> >

<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..co

>

> >

> > > >

> >

<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..co

 

> >

<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..co

>

> > >

> > > > > > > > m/invite/>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Vijay, Namaskar.

1 & 2. Conjunction of Tithi and Vara lords also causes a Tattva

conflict.

3. The Tattva I have given is used for Ghataka Chakra.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

www: http://srigaruda.com

@: visti

 

 

vk_51 skrev:

 

 

Dear Visti,

 

3 doubt as follows.

 

1.

When Nodes rule a tithi or nakshatra, how do we approach the tatwa

conflict.

 

Example, if someone is born in Ashtami tithi (Lord-Rahu) then how to

assess vara-tithi tatwa conflict, as no vara is lorded by Rahu.

 

Similarly, if someone is born in Rahu owned nakshatra, then how to

assess nakshatra-karna tatwa conflict, as no karna is lorded by Rahu.

---------

2.

In tatwa conflict, we are looking for the same lordship of Vara_tithi

and nakshatra_karna. When is the tatwa of tithis (Nanda,Bhadra...)

to

be used?

---------

3.

The tatwa of tithi in your book (Page 4) and that in Brhat Nakshatra

(P 49) fiffer in tatwa classification. Is there some aspects more to

understand in this regards.

 

Your wisdom is required.

 

Regards,

 

Vijay Kumar

 

,

Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> ??? ??? ?????

> Dear SS, Namaskar.

> If the Vara-Tithi conflict influences the second house then it may

 

> afflict wealth as Agni signifies resources. Similarly if it

associates

> with lagna it can affect health. Tithi is Jala tattva and hence a

> tithi-vara dosha association with fifth house can affect children

whilst

> with the seventh it affects relationships.

> In this way you can differentiate and based on the problem advise

the

> appropriate Devata based on 1. the Graha afflicted by the Dosha

and

2.

> the Tattva of the Dosha.

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> www: http://srigaruda.com

> @: visti

>

> Soul Sadhak skrev:

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > If i understood correctly, then Tattva of the Devata has to

be in

> > accordance with the tattva that is under conflict (agni for

vara,

> > jala for tithi etc)?

> >

> > but Devata pertaining to which panchanga element would be

preferred -

> > e.g. in tithi-vara conflict - is it vara (agni type) or tithi

 

(jala

> > type): i think in the example below u indicate it wud be

depending on

> > the problem/target area of life....please can u clarify why u

said

> > wealth for vara; since vara wud signify health.

> >

> > Many thanx and Best Regards,

> > SS

> >

> >

 

> > <%40>,

Visti Larsen <visti@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > Dear SS, Namaskar.

> > > We're not on the same page.

> > > My reference to Nakshatra was to the Janma Nakshatra and

its

> > association

> > > with the lord of the Karana where they being Vayu and

Prthvi

Tattva

> > > respectively cause a conflict once associating.

> > >

> > > The reference to the Guru was purely because in the

example

Jupiter

> > was

> > > the Tithi and Vara lord.

> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > ----------

> > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> > > @: visti@

> > >

> > > Soul Sadhak skrev:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Visti,

> > > >

> > > > No, I havent recieved any! I checked the thread and

the

mailbox

> > over

> > > > and over - but cant find!

> > > > Would be nice if you answer my queries.

> > > >

> > > > Best Regards,

> > > > SS

> > > >

> > > >

 

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>,

Visti Larsen <visti@>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > > > Dear SS, Namaskar.

> > > > > No, didn't you get my previous mail in this

regard?

> > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > ----------

> > > > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

 

> > <http://srigaruda.com

<http://srigaruda.com>>

> > > > > @: visti@

> > > > >

> > > > > Soul Sadhak skrev:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Visti,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Do you mean we have to consider the

nakshatra of the

graha

> > > > > > lording tithi+vara, and hence the cause

of conflict, or

the

> > birth

> > > > > > nakshatra?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. The Devata has to be the Guru form of

that nakshatra

and

> > the

> > > > > > Tattva of that Devata then be seen OR

Guru form if lord of

> > > > mashatra

> > > > > > is Jupiter?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many thanx and Best Regards,

> > > > > > SS

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > -----------------

----

> > ----

> > > > ------

> > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > > ------

> > > > > > > > > > ** Visti Larsen

<visti@>

> > > > > > > > > > *To:*

 

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, 8

January, 2009 1:51:44 PM

> > > > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Om

Krishna Guru] tattva conflict -

> > Visti

> > > > ji and

> > > > > > > > others

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > हरà¥++ राम

à¤.à¥fषà¥?ण

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Nagarjuna,

Namaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > Dakshinamurti is

Shiva as the teacher (hence also

> > > > associated

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > Jupiter) specifically

is meant to overcome Surya-

> > grahaa

> > > > (when

> > > > > > > > Rahu

> > > > > > > > > > eclipses Sun), hence

is the form of the Guru with

> > Agni in

> > > > it

> > > > > > > (to

> > > > > > > > > > overcome

Tattva-conflict between Vara and Tithi).

This

> > > > worship

> > > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > > overcome wealth

problems. Relationship problems

due to

> > > > such a

> > > > > > > > conflict

> > > > > > > > > > can be countered by

Dattatreya worship.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hence, Devata and

Tattva of Devata has to be taken

> > into

> > > > account

> > > > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > > > prescribing remedies

for Tattva-conflicts. I.e.

had it

> > > > been

> > > > > > > > Punarvasu,

> > > > > > > > > > Vishakha or

Purvabhadra nakshatra and Garija

Karana

> > then

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > worship

> > > > > > > > > > would not be for

Dakshinamurty nor Dattatreya.

Instead

> > > > Vyasa

> > > > > > > > could be

> > > > > > > > > > prescribed.

> > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely,

Visti Larsen

> > > > > > > > > > ------------

--------- --------- --------- ----

> > > > > > > > > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic

Astrologer)

> > > > > > > > > > www: http://srigaruda.

com

> > > > > > > > > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Cherukuri, Nagajurna

skrev:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >> Dear Visti ji,

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> Dakshinamurthi is

guru of the Sun. I am not able

to

> > link

> > > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > >> Dakshinamurthi

with my very very limited

knowledge.

> > Can

> > > > you

> > > > > > > > please

> > > > > > > > > >> explain the

general rules to remedy tattva

conflict?

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> regards

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> ~nagarjuna

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> ----------------

----

> > ----

> > > > ------

> > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > > -------

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> **

[

> > > > @

> > > > > > > > > >> . com

] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen

> > > > > > > > > >> *Sent:*

Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:22 AM

> > > > > > > > > >> *To:*

 

> > > > > > > > > >> *Subject:* Re:

[Om Krishna Guru] tattva

conflict -

> > Visti

> > > > ji

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > others

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> हरà¥++

राम à¤.à¥fषà¥?ण

> > > > > > > > > >> Dear Nagarjuna,

Namaskar.

> > > > > > > > > >> For Tattva

conflict of Jupiter Dakshinamurti

mantra

> > is

> > > > > > > required.

> > > > > > > > > >> Yours sincerely,

Visti Larsen

> > > > > > > > > >> ------------

--------- --------- --------- ----

> > > > > > > > > >> Jyotish Guru

(Vedic Astrologer)

> > > > > > > > > >> www: http://srigaruda.

com

<http://srigaruda.com/

 

> > <http://srigaruda.com/>

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>

> > > > > > > > > >> @:

visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@>

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> Cherukuri,

Nagajurna skrev:

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Visti ji,

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> I am reading

the first chapter (panchanga) in

your

> > > > book. I

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > going

> > > > > > > > > >>> through some

charts that I have and found a

> > âEURoetattva

> > > > > > > > conflictâEUR? due to

> > > > > > > > > >>> Krishna

Trayodasi thithi and Guru vara, both

lorded

> > by

> > > > > > > Jupiter.

> > > > > > > > > >>> Scorpio is

the Lagna with Jupiter on 11^th

house.

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Can you

please let me know how do we remedy

this?

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Thank you in

advance

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> nagarjuna

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > -----------------

----

> > ----

> > > > ------

> > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > > ------

> > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to

your messenger and enjoy!

Invite

> > them

> > > > now.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> >

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