Guest guest Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Respected members It is said - " the trines from lagna shows actual abilities while those from karakamsa show soul level desire " . Does this mean that the ability is actually present but may not manifest in society (may even cause problems to individual)? Or does it simply say that desire is present irrespective of ability? Does the rasi drishti of AK to lagnamsa affect the abilities in this regard. In this respect I would site the exaple of Dr Marie Curie's chart Curie, Marie Natal Chart November 7, 1867 Time: 10:36:00 Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " Altitude: 0.00 meters She has no planets in trines to lagnamsa. AK is moon. Ra and Ma are in 5th from AK. This seems to go well with her dedication towards studying radioactivity. But it is now beyond doubt that her passion for the subject was supported by profound intellectual capabilities. How can this be explained by her chart. A few observations are - 1) The AK moon is exalted in Taurus. 2) It has Rasi drishti on lagnamsa in Libra. 3) Lord of lagnamsa and karakamsa are same -Venus. 4) Madam Marie Curie's achievements were accompanied by personal loss (of health). She was so dedicated to her work that she neglected her basic needs like food and rest. Is this kind of dedication due to involvement of AK. Thanks & Regards namita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 om paramesthi gurave namah Dear Namita Brilliant analysis and observations. AK Moon is in 8th house from Navamsa Lagna which is marana karaka sthana and this can also lead to not only loss of health but also death, yet she did not give up her passion. AK provides the forum for lifetime achievements. With Warm Regards Sanjay Rath http://srath.com http://sohamsa.com http://.org 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India On Behalf Of Namita Jain 06 February 2009 13:39 [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa Respected members It is said - " the trines from lagna shows actual abilities while those from karakamsa show soul level desire " . Does this mean that the ability is actually present but may not manifest in society (may even cause problems to individual)? Or does it simply say that desire is present irrespective of ability? Does the rasi drishti of AK to lagnamsa affect the abilities in this regard. In this respect I would site the exaple of Dr Marie Curie's chart Curie, Marie Natal Chart November 7, 1867 Time: 10:36:00 Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " Altitude: 0.00 meters She has no planets in trines to lagnamsa. AK is moon. Ra and Ma are in 5th from AK. This seems to go well with her dedication towards studying radioactivity. But it is now beyond doubt that her passion for the subject was supported by profound intellectual capabilities. How can this be explained by her chart. A few observations are - 1) The AK moon is exalted in Taurus. 2) It has Rasi drishti on lagnamsa in Libra. 3) Lord of lagnamsa and karakamsa are same -Venus. 4) Madam Marie Curie's achievements were accompanied by personal loss (of health). She was so dedicated to her work that she neglected her basic needs like food and rest. Is this kind of dedication due to involvement of AK. Thanks & Regards namita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Thanks Sanjay Rath ji namita , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath wrote: > > > > > > om paramesthi gurave namah > > Dear Namita > > Brilliant analysis and observations. AK Moon is in 8th house from Navamsa > Lagna which is marana karaka sthana and this can also lead to not only loss > of health but also death, yet she did not give up her passion. AK provides > the forum for lifetime achievements. > > With Warm Regards > > Sanjay Rath > > http://srath.com http://sohamsa.com http://.org > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India > > > > On > Behalf Of Namita Jain > 06 February 2009 13:39 > > [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa > > > > Respected members > > It is said - " the trines from lagna shows actual abilities while those > from karakamsa show soul level desire " . Does this mean that the > ability is actually present but may not manifest in society (may even > cause problems to individual)? Or does it simply say that desire is > present irrespective of ability? Does the rasi drishti of AK to > lagnamsa affect the abilities in this regard. > In this respect I would site the exaple of Dr Marie Curie's chart > > Curie, Marie > > Natal Chart > > November 7, 1867 > Time: 10:36:00 > Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > She has no planets in trines to lagnamsa. AK is moon. Ra and Ma are in > 5th from AK. This seems to go well with her dedication towards > studying radioactivity. But it is now beyond doubt that her passion > for the subject was supported by profound intellectual capabilities. > How can this be explained by her chart. > A few observations are - > 1) The AK moon is exalted in Taurus. > 2) It has Rasi drishti on lagnamsa in Libra. > 3) Lord of lagnamsa and karakamsa are same -Venus. > 4) Madam Marie Curie's achievements were accompanied by personal loss > (of health). She was so dedicated to her work that she neglected her > basic needs like food and rest. Is this kind of dedication due to > involvement of AK. > > Thanks & Regards > namita > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Respected Sanjayji If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa is exalted it gives deep knowledge, as exemplified by chart of Madam Curie. How do we intemperate the effects of a planet in trines to navamsa if it forms parivartana with another planet? An example of such a chart is chart of Leonardo da Vinci In his chart Sa and mercury are in 1st and 9th from lagnamsa and are in parivartana. He was a person with multiple talents. May be this is because of Saturn(adaptibility). Also the Saturn itself is atmakaraka. So the same planets are also in trines from karakamsa. Da Vinci, Leonardo Natal Chart April 15, 1452 Time: 22:46:00 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 10 E 55' 00 " , 47 N 47' 00 " Altitude: 0.00 meters This chart is a special case where the planets in trines are in parivartana. Another more simple example is the chart of Sir Issac Newton. In his chart Ju is the AK and karakamsa is taurus. PLanets in trines to karakamsa are Ke, Ma and Jupiter. None of them are exalted. However Ma is in parivartana with mercury(ma in Virgo and me in aries). Is this the reason of his immense knowledge? (Mercury also lies in trines from lagnamsa). Newton, Sir Isaac Natal Chart January 4, 1643 Time: 1:38:00 Time Zone: 0:03:00 (West of GMT) Place: 0 W 40' 00 " , 52 N 50' 00 " Altitude: 0.00 meters Thanks and regards namita , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath wrote: > > > > > > om paramesthi gurave namah > > Dear Namita > > Brilliant analysis and observations. AK Moon is in 8th house from Navamsa > Lagna which is marana karaka sthana and this can also lead to not only loss > of health but also death, yet she did not give up her passion. AK provides > the forum for lifetime achievements. > > With Warm Regards > > Sanjay Rath > > http://srath.com http://sohamsa.com http://.org > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India > > > > On > Behalf Of Namita Jain > 06 February 2009 13:39 > > [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa > > > > Respected members > > It is said - " the trines from lagna shows actual abilities while those > from karakamsa show soul level desire " . Does this mean that the > ability is actually present but may not manifest in society (may even > cause problems to individual)? Or does it simply say that desire is > present irrespective of ability? Does the rasi drishti of AK to > lagnamsa affect the abilities in this regard. > In this respect I would site the exaple of Dr Marie Curie's chart > > Curie, Marie > > Natal Chart > > November 7, 1867 > Time: 10:36:00 > Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > She has no planets in trines to lagnamsa. AK is moon. Ra and Ma are in > 5th from AK. This seems to go well with her dedication towards > studying radioactivity. But it is now beyond doubt that her passion > for the subject was supported by profound intellectual capabilities. > How can this be explained by her chart. > A few observations are - > 1) The AK moon is exalted in Taurus. > 2) It has Rasi drishti on lagnamsa in Libra. > 3) Lord of lagnamsa and karakamsa are same -Venus. > 4) Madam Marie Curie's achievements were accompanied by personal loss > (of health). She was so dedicated to her work that she neglected her > basic needs like food and rest. Is this kind of dedication due to > involvement of AK. > > Thanks & Regards > namita > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Hi Namita, I have no answer for your query. But, I have a question for you. I am providing you my birth details here. In my chart, exalted Venus is present in trines from both Lagnamsa and Karakamsa. And happy Jupiter is again in trine from Lagnamsa and Karakamsa.But, I am sure that I am a quiet normal person. Time : 13-dec-1978 10:12:10 AM Place: Chennai, India As per your statement " If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa is exalted it gives deep knowledge. " Are we missing something? May be analysis w.r.t arudha? regards nagarjuna , " Namita Jain " <namita.saket wrote: > > Respected Sanjayji > > If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa is exalted it gives deep > knowledge, as exemplified by chart of Madam Curie. > How do we intemperate the effects of a planet in trines to navamsa if it > forms parivartana with another planet? An example of such a chart is > chart of Leonardo da Vinci > In his chart Sa and mercury are in 1st and 9th from lagnamsa and are in > parivartana. He was a person with multiple talents. May be this is > because of Saturn(adaptibility). Also the Saturn itself is atmakaraka. > So the same planets are also in trines from karakamsa. > > Da Vinci, Leonardo > > Natal Chart > > April 15, 1452 > Time: 22:46:00 > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 10 E 55' 00 " , 47 N 47' 00 " > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > This chart is a special case where the planets in trines are in > parivartana. Another more simple example is the chart of Sir Issac > Newton. In his chart Ju is the AK and karakamsa is taurus. PLanets in > trines to karakamsa are Ke, Ma and Jupiter. None of them are exalted. > However Ma is in parivartana with mercury(ma in Virgo and me in aries). > Is this the reason of his immense knowledge? (Mercury also lies in > trines from lagnamsa). > > Newton, Sir Isaac > > Natal Chart > > January 4, 1643 > Time: 1:38:00 > Time Zone: 0:03:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 0 W 40' 00 " , 52 N 50' 00 " > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Thanks and regards > namita > > > > > , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > om paramesthi gurave namah > > > > Dear Namita > > > > Brilliant analysis and observations. AK Moon is in 8th house from > Navamsa > > Lagna which is marana karaka sthana and this can also lead to not only > loss > > of health but also death, yet she did not give up her passion. AK > provides > > the forum for lifetime achievements. > > > > With Warm Regards > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > http://srath.com http://sohamsa.com http://.org > > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India > > > > > > > > > On > > Behalf Of Namita Jain > > 06 February 2009 13:39 > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > It is said - " the trines from lagna shows actual abilities while those > > from karakamsa show soul level desire " . Does this mean that the > > ability is actually present but may not manifest in society (may even > > cause problems to individual)? Or does it simply say that desire is > > present irrespective of ability? Does the rasi drishti of AK to > > lagnamsa affect the abilities in this regard. > > In this respect I would site the exaple of Dr Marie Curie's chart > > > > Curie, Marie > > > > Natal Chart > > > > November 7, 1867 > > Time: 10:36:00 > > Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT) > > Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > She has no planets in trines to lagnamsa. AK is moon. Ra and Ma are in > > 5th from AK. This seems to go well with her dedication towards > > studying radioactivity. But it is now beyond doubt that her passion > > for the subject was supported by profound intellectual capabilities. > > How can this be explained by her chart. > > A few observations are - > > 1) The AK moon is exalted in Taurus. > > 2) It has Rasi drishti on lagnamsa in Libra. > > 3) Lord of lagnamsa and karakamsa are same -Venus. > > 4) Madam Marie Curie's achievements were accompanied by personal loss > > (of health). She was so dedicated to her work that she neglected her > > basic needs like food and rest. Is this kind of dedication due to > > involvement of AK. > > > > Thanks & Regards > > namita > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Dear Namita and Nagarjuna Pls allow me to share my openion. Lagna and Placement of Langa Lord plays important role in giving deep knowledge, Lagna is under papa kartari and lagnesha also reducing strength in 8th house with rahu. LL of navmansa is aspacted by saturn and rahu (neecha) both. Dasha lord also plays imp role , current dasha lord is rahu who is not allowing to take interest in deep knowledge, Jup dasha may give major change, as he is 9L of navmansa. List members pls correct me.. Pankaj Upadhyay, Indore , " nagarjuna " <nc161d wrote: > > Hi Namita, > > I have no answer for your query. But, I have a question for you. I am > providing you my birth details here. In my chart, exalted Venus is > present in trines from both Lagnamsa and Karakamsa. And happy Jupiter > is again in trine from Lagnamsa and Karakamsa.But, I am sure that I am > a quiet normal person. > > Time : 13-dec-1978 10:12:10 AM > Place: Chennai, India > > As per your statement " If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa is > exalted it gives deep knowledge. " Are we missing something? May be > analysis w.r.t arudha? > > regards > nagarjuna > > , " Namita Jain " <namita.saket@> > wrote: > > > > Respected Sanjayji > > > > If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa is exalted it gives deep > > knowledge, as exemplified by chart of Madam Curie. > > How do we intemperate the effects of a planet in trines to navamsa if it > > forms parivartana with another planet? An example of such a chart is > > chart of Leonardo da Vinci > > In his chart Sa and mercury are in 1st and 9th from lagnamsa and are in > > parivartana. He was a person with multiple talents. May be this is > > because of Saturn(adaptibility). Also the Saturn itself is atmakaraka. > > So the same planets are also in trines from karakamsa. > > > > Da Vinci, Leonardo > > > > Natal Chart > > > > April 15, 1452 > > Time: 22:46:00 > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 10 E 55' 00 " , 47 N 47' 00 " > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > > > This chart is a special case where the planets in trines are in > > parivartana. Another more simple example is the chart of Sir Issac > > Newton. In his chart Ju is the AK and karakamsa is taurus. PLanets in > > trines to karakamsa are Ke, Ma and Jupiter. None of them are exalted. > > However Ma is in parivartana with mercury(ma in Virgo and me in aries). > > Is this the reason of his immense knowledge? (Mercury also lies in > > trines from lagnamsa). > > > > Newton, Sir Isaac > > > > Natal Chart > > > > January 4, 1643 > > Time: 1:38:00 > > Time Zone: 0:03:00 (West of GMT) > > Place: 0 W 40' 00 " , 52 N 50' 00 " > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > Thanks and regards > > namita > > > > > > > > > > , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om paramesthi gurave namah > > > > > > Dear Namita > > > > > > Brilliant analysis and observations. AK Moon is in 8th house from > > Navamsa > > > Lagna which is marana karaka sthana and this can also lead to not only > > loss > > > of health but also death, yet she did not give up her passion. AK > > provides > > > the forum for lifetime achievements. > > > > > > With Warm Regards > > > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > > http://srath.com http://sohamsa.com http://.org > > > > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On > > > Behalf Of Namita Jain > > > 06 February 2009 13:39 > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > > > It is said - " the trines from lagna shows actual abilities while those > > > from karakamsa show soul level desire " . Does this mean that the > > > ability is actually present but may not manifest in society (may even > > > cause problems to individual)? Or does it simply say that desire is > > > present irrespective of ability? Does the rasi drishti of AK to > > > lagnamsa affect the abilities in this regard. > > > In this respect I would site the exaple of Dr Marie Curie's chart > > > > > > Curie, Marie > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > November 7, 1867 > > > Time: 10:36:00 > > > Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT) > > > Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > > > She has no planets in trines to lagnamsa. AK is moon. Ra and Ma are in > > > 5th from AK. This seems to go well with her dedication towards > > > studying radioactivity. But it is now beyond doubt that her passion > > > for the subject was supported by profound intellectual capabilities. > > > How can this be explained by her chart. > > > A few observations are - > > > 1) The AK moon is exalted in Taurus. > > > 2) It has Rasi drishti on lagnamsa in Libra. > > > 3) Lord of lagnamsa and karakamsa are same -Venus. > > > 4) Madam Marie Curie's achievements were accompanied by personal loss > > > (of health). She was so dedicated to her work that she neglected her > > > basic needs like food and rest. Is this kind of dedication due to > > > involvement of AK. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards > > > namita > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Nagarjuna, If I permit to answer- This is a clear example which shows the way we look at teaching. Not only you, but we all do this mistake and most of us end up with challenging teachings of seers. Why did you jump to the Navamsa chart, without mention the Rasi chart ? See Rasi chart first before you go to any other charts like TITHI PRAVESHA for 2009 or D60 of the TITI PRAVESHA etc. Please try to understand Venus in your Rasi chart first. What role she is playing in chart related to Lagna and AL ? Is she promised to give some thing ? How she is playing with your mind ect ? In your Rasi chart, Venus and Moon creating very specific relationship. Beacause of this reason, We can say Venus is not in very good mood to give results of exaltation in Navamsa/Karakamsa. Perhaps, that is why you are thinking as a normal person. If you really want to learn about this, please study Marana Karaka principle given by traditional teachings. Some examples are in COVA. Please forgive me for confusions, if any. Best Wishes Karu On Behalf Of nagarjuna Tuesday, 24 February 2009 3:07 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa Hi Namita, I have no answer for your query. But, I have a question for you. I am providing you my birth details here. In my chart, exalted Venus is present in trines from both Lagnamsa and Karakamsa. And happy Jupiter is again in trine from Lagnamsa and Karakamsa.But, I am sure that I am a quiet normal person. Time : 13-dec-1978 10:12:10 AM Place: Chennai, India As per your statement " If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa is exalted it gives deep knowledge. " Are we missing something? May be analysis w.r.t arudha? regards nagarjuna , " Namita Jain " <namita.saket wrote: > > Respected Sanjayji > > If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa is exalted it gives deep > knowledge, as exemplified by chart of Madam Curie. > How do we intemperate the effects of a planet in trines to navamsa if it > forms parivartana with another planet? An example of such a chart is > chart of Leonardo da Vinci > In his chart Sa and mercury are in 1st and 9th from lagnamsa and are in > parivartana. He was a person with multiple talents. May be this is > because of Saturn(adaptibility). Also the Saturn itself is atmakaraka. > So the same planets are also in trines from karakamsa. > > Da Vinci, Leonardo > > Natal Chart > > April 15, 1452 > Time: 22:46:00 > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 10 E 55' 00 " , 47 N 47' 00 " > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > This chart is a special case where the planets in trines are in > parivartana. Another more simple example is the chart of Sir Issac > Newton. In his chart Ju is the AK and karakamsa is taurus. PLanets in > trines to karakamsa are Ke, Ma and Jupiter. None of them are exalted. > However Ma is in parivartana with mercury(ma in Virgo and me in aries). > Is this the reason of his immense knowledge? (Mercury also lies in > trines from lagnamsa). > > Newton, Sir Isaac > > Natal Chart > > January 4, 1643 > Time: 1:38:00 > Time Zone: 0:03:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 0 W 40' 00 " , 52 N 50' 00 " > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Thanks and regards > namita > > > > > , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > om paramesthi gurave namah > > > > Dear Namita > > > > Brilliant analysis and observations. AK Moon is in 8th house from > Navamsa > > Lagna which is marana karaka sthana and this can also lead to not only > loss > > of health but also death, yet she did not give up her passion. AK > provides > > the forum for lifetime achievements. > > > > With Warm Regards > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > http://srath.com http://sohamsa.com http://.org > > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India > > > > > > > > > On > > Behalf Of Namita Jain > > 06 February 2009 13:39 > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > It is said - " the trines from lagna shows actual abilities while those > > from karakamsa show soul level desire " . Does this mean that the > > ability is actually present but may not manifest in society (may even > > cause problems to individual)? Or does it simply say that desire is > > present irrespective of ability? Does the rasi drishti of AK to > > lagnamsa affect the abilities in this regard. > > In this respect I would site the exaple of Dr Marie Curie's chart > > > > Curie, Marie > > > > Natal Chart > > > > November 7, 1867 > > Time: 10:36:00 > > Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT) > > Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > She has no planets in trines to lagnamsa. AK is moon. Ra and Ma are in > > 5th from AK. This seems to go well with her dedication towards > > studying radioactivity. But it is now beyond doubt that her passion > > for the subject was supported by profound intellectual capabilities. > > How can this be explained by her chart. > > A few observations are - > > 1) The AK moon is exalted in Taurus. > > 2) It has Rasi drishti on lagnamsa in Libra. > > 3) Lord of lagnamsa and karakamsa are same -Venus. > > 4) Madam Marie Curie's achievements were accompanied by personal loss > > (of health). She was so dedicated to her work that she neglected her > > basic needs like food and rest. Is this kind of dedication due to > > involvement of AK. > > > > Thanks & Regards > > namita > > > --- ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Nagarjuna , Kona to karakaamsa shows desires from past lifes and current tendency, skills which you want to have. Karakaamsa shows also group you belong to. Benefics in kona here shows power of presentation, attraction, Shukra gives artistic skills and art of dealing with people in very gentle manner, here Pisces sign shows desire for freedom, spirituality. I have seen many spiritual people with Karakaamsa in Pisces. I am sure everything works, actualized abilities are seen from trikona to Lagna in D9. Are you sure you are cancer? Some deep desire to have followers, children, authority? Some karma to establish mission, home, education? Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal Hare Rama Krishna Dear Nagarjuna, If I permit to answer- This is a clear example which shows the way we look at teaching. Not only you, but we all do this mistake and most of us end up with challenging teachings of seers. Why did you jump to the Navamsa chart, without mention the Rasi chart ? See Rasi chart first before you go to any other charts like TITHI PRAVESHA for 2009 or D60 of the TITI PRAVESHA etc. Please try to understand Venus in your Rasi chart first. What role she is playing in chart related to Lagna and AL ? Is she promised to give some thing ? How she is playing with your mind ect ? In your Rasi chart, Venus and Moon creating very specific relationship. Beacause of this reason, We can say Venus is not in very good mood to give results of exaltation in Navamsa/Karakamsa. Perhaps, that is why you are thinking as a normal person. If you really want to learn about this, please study Marana Karaka principle given by traditional teachings. Some examples are in COVA. Please forgive me for confusions, if any. Best Wishes Karu @ . com [@ . com] On Behalf Of nagarjuna Tuesday, 24 February 2009 3:07 PM @ . com Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa Hi Namita, I have no answer for your query. But, I have a question for you. I am providing you my birth details here. In my chart, exalted Venus is present in trines from both Lagnamsa and Karakamsa. And happy Jupiter is again in trine from Lagnamsa and Karakamsa.But, I am sure that I am a quiet normal person. Time : 13-dec-1978 10:12:10 AM Place: Chennai, India As per your statement "If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa is exalted it gives deep knowledge." Are we missing something? May be analysis w.r.t arudha? regards nagarjuna @ . com, "Namita Jain" <namita.saket@ ...> wrote: > > Respected Sanjayji > > If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa is exalted it gives deep > knowledge, as exemplified by chart of Madam Curie. > How do we intemperate the effects of a planet in trines to navamsa if it > forms parivartana with another planet? An example of such a chart is > chart of Leonardo da Vinci > In his chart Sa and mercury are in 1st and 9th from lagnamsa and are in > parivartana. He was a person with multiple talents. May be this is > because of Saturn(adaptibility ). Also the Saturn itself is atmakaraka. > So the same planets are also in trines from karakamsa. > > Da Vinci, Leonardo > > Natal Chart > > April 15, 1452 > Time: 22:46:00 > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 10 E 55' 00", 47 N 47' 00" > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > This chart is a special case where the planets in trines are in > parivartana. Another more simple example is the chart of Sir Issac > Newton. In his chart Ju is the AK and karakamsa is taurus. PLanets in > trines to karakamsa are Ke, Ma and Jupiter. None of them are exalted. > However Ma is in parivartana with mercury(ma in Virgo and me in aries). > Is this the reason of his immense knowledge? (Mercury also lies in > trines from lagnamsa). > > Newton, Sir Isaac > > Natal Chart > > January 4, 1643 > Time: 1:38:00 > Time Zone: 0:03:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 0 W 40' 00", 52 N 50' 00" > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Thanks and regards > namita > > > > > @ . com, "Sanjay Rath" <sjrath@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > om paramesthi gurave namah > > > > Dear Namita > > > > Brilliant analysis and observations. AK Moon is in 8th house from > Navamsa > > Lagna which is marana karaka sthana and this can also lead to not only > loss > > of health but also death, yet she did not give up her passion. AK > provides > > the forum for lifetime achievements. > > > > With Warm Regards > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > http://srath. com http://sohamsa. com http:// ..org > > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India > > > > > > > > @ . com > [@ . com] On > > Behalf Of Namita Jain > > 06 February 2009 13:39 > > @ . com > > [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > It is said - "the trines from lagna shows actual abilities while those > > from karakamsa show soul level desire". Does this mean that the > > ability is actually present but may not manifest in society (may even > > cause problems to individual)? Or does it simply say that desire is > > present irrespective of ability? Does the rasi drishti of AK to > > lagnamsa affect the abilities in this regard. > > In this respect I would site the exaple of Dr Marie Curie's chart > > > > Curie, Marie > > > > Natal Chart > > > > November 7, 1867 > > Time: 10:36:00 > > Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT) > > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > She has no planets in trines to lagnamsa. AK is moon. Ra and Ma are in > > 5th from AK. This seems to go well with her dedication towards > > studying radioactivity. But it is now beyond doubt that her passion > > for the subject was supported by profound intellectual capabilities. > > How can this be explained by her chart. > > A few observations are - > > 1) The AK moon is exalted in Taurus. > > 2) It has Rasi drishti on lagnamsa in Libra. > > 3) Lord of lagnamsa and karakamsa are same -Venus. > > 4) Madam Marie Curie's achievements were accompanied by personal loss > > (of health). She was so dedicated to her work that she neglected her > > basic needs like food and rest. Is this kind of dedication due to > > involvement of AK. > > > > Thanks & Regards > > namita > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Dear Rafal I have karakamsa in pisces with guru and sun (atmakaraka) in it. so mercury, moon, saturn and guru and sun are in trines to karakamsa. what does it mean in terms to quality of these planets? does debilitation matter here? how do the results of planets in trines in karakamsa differ from planets in trines to d 9 lagna ? i have taurus lagna in d 9. sincerely Rishabh 11th april, 1986 8:51 pm ludhiana, punjab, india , Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ > Dear Nagarjuna , > > Kona to karakaamsa shows desires from past lifes and current tendency, > skills which you want to have. Karakaamsa shows also group you belong to. > > Benefics in kona here shows power of presentation, attraction, Shukra > gives artistic skills and art of dealing with people in very gentle > manner, here Pisces sign > shows desire for freedom, spirituality. I have seen many spiritual > people with Karakaamsa in Pisces. > > I am sure everything works, actualized abilities are seen from trikona > to Lagna in D9. Are you sure you are cancer? Some deep desire to have > followers, children, authority? Some karma to establish mission, home, > education? > > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru > -------------- > /*Consultations & Pages* > http://rohinaa.com > rafal/ > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Dear Nagarjuna, > > > > If I permit to answer- > > > > This is a clear example which shows the way we look at teaching. Not only > > you, but we all do this mistake and most of us end up with challenging > > teachings of seers. > > Why did you jump to the Navamsa chart, without mention the Rasi chart > > ? See > > Rasi chart first before you go to any other charts like TITHI PRAVESHA for > > 2009 or D60 of the TITI PRAVESHA etc. > > > > Please try to understand Venus in your Rasi chart first. What role she is > > playing in chart related to Lagna and AL ? Is she promised to give some > > thing ? How she is playing with your mind ect ? > > > > In your Rasi chart, Venus and Moon creating very specific relationship. > > Beacause of this reason, We can say Venus is not in very good mood to give > > results of exaltation in Navamsa/Karakamsa. Perhaps, that is why you are > > thinking as a normal person. If you really want to learn about this, > > please > > study Marana Karaka principle given by traditional teachings. Some > > examples > > are in COVA. > > > > Please forgive me for confusions, if any. > > > > Best Wishes > > Karu > > > > > > > > <%40> [@ > > . com <%40>] On > > Behalf Of nagarjuna > > Tuesday, 24 February 2009 3:07 PM > > <%40> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa > > > > Hi Namita, > > > > I have no answer for your query. But, I have a question for you. I am > > providing you my birth details here. In my chart, exalted Venus is > > present in trines from both Lagnamsa and Karakamsa. And happy Jupiter > > is again in trine from Lagnamsa and Karakamsa.But, I am sure that I am > > a quiet normal person. > > > > Time : 13-dec-1978 10:12:10 AM > > Place: Chennai, India > > > > As per your statement " If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa is > > exalted it gives deep knowledge. " Are we missing something? May be > > analysis w.r.t arudha? > > > > regards > > nagarjuna > > > > > > <%40>, " Namita Jain " <namita.saket@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sanjayji > > > > > > If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa is exalted it gives deep > > > knowledge, as exemplified by chart of Madam Curie. > > > How do we intemperate the effects of a planet in trines to navamsa if it > > > forms parivartana with another planet? An example of such a chart is > > > chart of Leonardo da Vinci > > > In his chart Sa and mercury are in 1st and 9th from lagnamsa and are in > > > parivartana. He was a person with multiple talents. May be this is > > > because of Saturn(adaptibility ). Also the Saturn itself is atmakaraka. > > > So the same planets are also in trines from karakamsa. > > > > > > Da Vinci, Leonardo > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > April 15, 1452 > > > Time: 22:46:00 > > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 10 E 55' 00 " , 47 N 47' 00 " > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > > > > > > This chart is a special case where the planets in trines are in > > > parivartana. Another more simple example is the chart of Sir Issac > > > Newton. In his chart Ju is the AK and karakamsa is taurus. PLanets in > > > trines to karakamsa are Ke, Ma and Jupiter. None of them are exalted. > > > However Ma is in parivartana with mercury(ma in Virgo and me in aries). > > > Is this the reason of his immense knowledge? (Mercury also lies in > > > trines from lagnamsa). > > > > > > Newton, Sir Isaac > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > January 4, 1643 > > > Time: 1:38:00 > > > Time Zone: 0:03:00 (West of GMT) > > > Place: 0 W 40' 00 " , 52 N 50' 00 " > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > > > Thanks and regards > > > namita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om paramesthi gurave namah > > > > > > > > Dear Namita > > > > > > > > Brilliant analysis and observations. AK Moon is in 8th house from > > > Navamsa > > > > Lagna which is marana karaka sthana and this can also lead to not only > > > loss > > > > of health but also death, yet she did not give up her passion. AK > > > provides > > > > the forum for lifetime achievements. > > > > > > > > With Warm Regards > > > > > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > > > > http://srath. com <http://srath.com> http://sohamsa. com > > <http://sohamsa.com> http:// .org <http://.org> > > > > > > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > [ > > <%40>] On > > > > Behalf Of Namita Jain > > > > 06 February 2009 13:39 > > > > > > <%40> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > > > > > It is said - " the trines from lagna shows actual abilities while those > > > > from karakamsa show soul level desire " . Does this mean that the > > > > ability is actually present but may not manifest in society (may even > > > > cause problems to individual)? Or does it simply say that desire is > > > > present irrespective of ability? Does the rasi drishti of AK to > > > > lagnamsa affect the abilities in this regard. > > > > In this respect I would site the exaple of Dr Marie Curie's chart > > > > > > > > Curie, Marie > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > November 7, 1867 > > > > Time: 10:36:00 > > > > Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT) > > > > Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " > > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > > > > > She has no planets in trines to lagnamsa. AK is moon. Ra and Ma are in > > > > 5th from AK. This seems to go well with her dedication towards > > > > studying radioactivity. But it is now beyond doubt that her passion > > > > for the subject was supported by profound intellectual capabilities. > > > > How can this be explained by her chart. > > > > A few observations are - > > > > 1) The AK moon is exalted in Taurus. > > > > 2) It has Rasi drishti on lagnamsa in Libra. > > > > 3) Lord of lagnamsa and karakamsa are same -Venus. > > > > 4) Madam Marie Curie's achievements were accompanied by personal loss > > > > (of health). She was so dedicated to her work that she neglected her > > > > basic needs like food and rest. Is this kind of dedication due to > > > > involvement of AK. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards > > > > namita > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading > > today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 can someone answer this for me please thanks , " Rishabh " <rishabhjindal wrote: > > Dear Rafal > I have karakamsa in pisces with guru and sun (atmakaraka) in it. so > mercury, moon, saturn and guru and sun are in trines to karakamsa. > what does it mean in terms to quality of these planets? does > debilitation matter here? > how do the results of planets in trines in karakamsa differ from > planets in trines to d 9 lagna ? i have taurus lagna in d 9. > sincerely > Rishabh > 11th april, 1986 > 8:51 pm > ludhiana, punjab, india > > , Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@> > wrote: > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ > > Dear Nagarjuna , > > > > Kona to karakaamsa shows desires from past lifes and current tendency, > > skills which you want to have. Karakaamsa shows also group you > belong to. > > > > Benefics in kona here shows power of presentation, attraction, Shukra > > gives artistic skills and art of dealing with people in very gentle > > manner, here Pisces sign > > shows desire for freedom, spirituality. I have seen many spiritual > > people with Karakaamsa in Pisces. > > > > I am sure everything works, actualized abilities are seen from trikona > > to Lagna in D9. Are you sure you are cancer? Some deep desire to have > > followers, children, authority? Some karma to establish mission, home, > > education? > > > > > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > -------------- > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > http://rohinaa.com > > rafal@/ > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > > > Dear Nagarjuna, > > > > > > If I permit to answer- > > > > > > This is a clear example which shows the way we look at teaching. > Not only > > > you, but we all do this mistake and most of us end up with challenging > > > teachings of seers. > > > Why did you jump to the Navamsa chart, without mention the Rasi chart > > > ? See > > > Rasi chart first before you go to any other charts like TITHI > PRAVESHA for > > > 2009 or D60 of the TITI PRAVESHA etc. > > > > > > Please try to understand Venus in your Rasi chart first. What role > she is > > > playing in chart related to Lagna and AL ? Is she promised to give > some > > > thing ? How she is playing with your mind ect ? > > > > > > In your Rasi chart, Venus and Moon creating very specific > relationship. > > > Beacause of this reason, We can say Venus is not in very good mood > to give > > > results of exaltation in Navamsa/Karakamsa. Perhaps, that is why > you are > > > thinking as a normal person. If you really want to learn about this, > > > please > > > study Marana Karaka principle given by traditional teachings. Some > > > examples > > > are in COVA. > > > > > > Please forgive me for confusions, if any. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > Karu > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> [@ > > > . com <%40>] On > > > Behalf Of nagarjuna > > > Tuesday, 24 February 2009 3:07 PM > > > > <%40> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa > > > > > > Hi Namita, > > > > > > I have no answer for your query. But, I have a question for you. I am > > > providing you my birth details here. In my chart, exalted Venus is > > > present in trines from both Lagnamsa and Karakamsa. And happy Jupiter > > > is again in trine from Lagnamsa and Karakamsa.But, I am sure that I am > > > a quiet normal person. > > > > > > Time : 13-dec-1978 10:12:10 AM > > > Place: Chennai, India > > > > > > As per your statement " If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa is > > > exalted it gives deep knowledge. " Are we missing something? May be > > > analysis w.r.t arudha? > > > > > > regards > > > nagarjuna > > > > > > > > > <%40>, " Namita Jain " > <namita.saket@ ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Sanjayji > > > > > > > > If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa is exalted it gives deep > > > > knowledge, as exemplified by chart of Madam Curie. > > > > How do we intemperate the effects of a planet in trines to > navamsa if it > > > > forms parivartana with another planet? An example of such a chart is > > > > chart of Leonardo da Vinci > > > > In his chart Sa and mercury are in 1st and 9th from lagnamsa and > are in > > > > parivartana. He was a person with multiple talents. May be this is > > > > because of Saturn(adaptibility ). Also the Saturn itself is > atmakaraka. > > > > So the same planets are also in trines from karakamsa. > > > > > > > > Da Vinci, Leonardo > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > April 15, 1452 > > > > Time: 22:46:00 > > > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 10 E 55' 00 " , 47 N 47' 00 " > > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > > > > > > > > > This chart is a special case where the planets in trines are in > > > > parivartana. Another more simple example is the chart of Sir Issac > > > > Newton. In his chart Ju is the AK and karakamsa is taurus. > PLanets in > > > > trines to karakamsa are Ke, Ma and Jupiter. None of them are > exalted. > > > > However Ma is in parivartana with mercury(ma in Virgo and me in > aries). > > > > Is this the reason of his immense knowledge? (Mercury also lies in > > > > trines from lagnamsa). > > > > > > > > Newton, Sir Isaac > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > January 4, 1643 > > > > Time: 1:38:00 > > > > Time Zone: 0:03:00 (West of GMT) > > > > Place: 0 W 40' 00 " , 52 N 50' 00 " > > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards > > > > namita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om paramesthi gurave namah > > > > > > > > > > Dear Namita > > > > > > > > > > Brilliant analysis and observations. AK Moon is in 8th house from > > > > Navamsa > > > > > Lagna which is marana karaka sthana and this can also lead to > not only > > > > loss > > > > > of health but also death, yet she did not give up her passion. AK > > > > provides > > > > > the forum for lifetime achievements. > > > > > > > > > > With Warm Regards > > > > > > > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > > > > > > http://srath. com <http://srath.com> http://sohamsa. com > > > <http://sohamsa.com> http:// .org > <http://.org> > > > > > > > > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > [ > > > <%40>] On > > > > > Behalf Of Namita Jain > > > > > 06 February 2009 13:39 > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > > > > > > > It is said - " the trines from lagna shows actual abilities > while those > > > > > from karakamsa show soul level desire " . Does this mean that the > > > > > ability is actually present but may not manifest in society > (may even > > > > > cause problems to individual)? Or does it simply say that > desire is > > > > > present irrespective of ability? Does the rasi drishti of AK to > > > > > lagnamsa affect the abilities in this regard. > > > > > In this respect I would site the exaple of Dr Marie Curie's chart > > > > > > > > > > Curie, Marie > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > November 7, 1867 > > > > > Time: 10:36:00 > > > > > Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT) > > > > > Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " > > > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > > > > > > > She has no planets in trines to lagnamsa. AK is moon. Ra and > Ma are in > > > > > 5th from AK. This seems to go well with her dedication towards > > > > > studying radioactivity. But it is now beyond doubt that her > passion > > > > > for the subject was supported by profound intellectual > capabilities. > > > > > How can this be explained by her chart. > > > > > A few observations are - > > > > > 1) The AK moon is exalted in Taurus. > > > > > 2) It has Rasi drishti on lagnamsa in Libra. > > > > > 3) Lord of lagnamsa and karakamsa are same -Venus. > > > > > 4) Madam Marie Curie's achievements were accompanied by > personal loss > > > > > (of health). She was so dedicated to her work that she > neglected her > > > > > basic needs like food and rest. Is this kind of dedication due to > > > > > involvement of AK. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards > > > > > namita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading > > > today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Dear Karu, I have COVA, but I could not grasp most of the concepts when I tried reading it last year. I think, I will try again now. Thank you very much for your points. I never tried to analyze Venus w.r.t. Moon before. I will check that as well. ~nagarjuna On Behalf Of Karu HeenkendaWednesday, February 25, 2009 3:00 AM Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa Hare Rama KrishnaDear Nagarjuna,If I permit to answer-This is a clear example which shows the way we look at teaching. Not onlyyou, but we all do this mistake and most of us end up with challengingteachings of seers.Why did you jump to the Navamsa chart, without mention the Rasi chart ? SeeRasi chart first before you go to any other charts like TITHI PRAVESHA for2009 or D60 of the TITI PRAVESHA etc.Please try to understand Venus in your Rasi chart first. What role she isplaying in chart related to Lagna and AL ? Is she promised to give something ? How she is playing with your mind ect ?In your Rasi chart, Venus and Moon creating very specific relationship.Beacause of this reason, We can say Venus is not in very good mood to giveresults of exaltation in Navamsa/Karakamsa. Perhaps, that is why you arethinking as a normal person. If you really want to learn about this, pleasestudy Marana Karaka principle given by traditional teachings. Some examplesare in COVA.Please forgive me for confusions, if any. Best WishesKaru OnBehalf Of nagarjunaTuesday, 24 February 2009 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsaHi Namita,I have no answer for your query. But, I have a question for you. I amproviding you my birth details here. In my chart, exalted Venus ispresent in trines from both Lagnamsa and Karakamsa. And happy Jupiteris again in trine from Lagnamsa and Karakamsa.But, I am sure that I ama quiet normal person. Time : 13-dec-1978 10:12:10 AMPlace: Chennai, IndiaAs per your statement "If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa isexalted it gives deep knowledge." Are we missing something? May beanalysis w.r.t arudha?regardsnagarjuna , "Namita Jain" <namita.saketwrote:>> Respected Sanjayji> > If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa is exalted it gives deep> knowledge, as exemplified by chart of Madam Curie.> How do we intemperate the effects of a planet in trines to navamsa if it> forms parivartana with another planet? An example of such a chart is> chart of Leonardo da Vinci> In his chart Sa and mercury are in 1st and 9th from lagnamsa and are in> parivartana. He was a person with multiple talents. May be this is> because of Saturn(adaptibility). Also the Saturn itself is atmakaraka.> So the same planets are also in trines from karakamsa.> > Da Vinci, Leonardo> > Natal Chart> > April 15, 1452> Time: 22:46:00> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 10 E 55' 00", 47 N 47' 00"> Altitude: 0.00 meters> > > This chart is a special case where the planets in trines are in> parivartana. Another more simple example is the chart of Sir Issac> Newton. In his chart Ju is the AK and karakamsa is taurus. PLanets in> trines to karakamsa are Ke, Ma and Jupiter. None of them are exalted.> However Ma is in parivartana with mercury(ma in Virgo and me in aries).> Is this the reason of his immense knowledge? (Mercury also lies in> trines from lagnamsa).> > Newton, Sir Isaac> > Natal Chart> > January 4, 1643> Time: 1:38:00> Time Zone: 0:03:00 (West of GMT)> Place: 0 W 40' 00", 52 N 50' 00"> Altitude: 0.00 meters> > Thanks and regards> namita> > > > > , "Sanjay Rath" <sjrath@> wrote:> >> >> >> >> >> > om paramesthi gurave namah> >> > Dear Namita> >> > Brilliant analysis and observations. AK Moon is in 8th house from> Navamsa> > Lagna which is marana karaka sthana and this can also lead to not only> loss> > of health but also death, yet she did not give up her passion. AK> provides> > the forum for lifetime achievements.> >> > With Warm Regards> >> > Sanjay Rath> >> > http://srath.com http://sohamsa.com http://.org> >> > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India> >> >> >> > > On> > Behalf Of Namita Jain> > 06 February 2009 13:39> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa> >> >> >> > Respected members> >> > It is said - "the trines from lagna shows actual abilities while those> > from karakamsa show soul level desire". Does this mean that the> > ability is actually present but may not manifest in society (may even> > cause problems to individual)? Or does it simply say that desire is> > present irrespective of ability? Does the rasi drishti of AK to> > lagnamsa affect the abilities in this regard.> > In this respect I would site the exaple of Dr Marie Curie's chart> >> > Curie, Marie> >> > Natal Chart> >> > November 7, 1867> > Time: 10:36:00> > Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT)> > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00"> > Altitude: 0.00 meters> >> > She has no planets in trines to lagnamsa. AK is moon. Ra and Ma are in> > 5th from AK. This seems to go well with her dedication towards> > studying radioactivity. But it is now beyond doubt that her passion> > for the subject was supported by profound intellectual capabilities.> > How can this be explained by her chart.> > A few observations are -> > 1) The AK moon is exalted in Taurus.> > 2) It has Rasi drishti on lagnamsa in Libra.> > 3) Lord of lagnamsa and karakamsa are same -Venus.> > 4) Madam Marie Curie's achievements were accompanied by personal loss> > (of health). She was so dedicated to her work that she neglected her> > basic needs like food and rest. Is this kind of dedication due to> > involvement of AK.> >> > Thanks & Regards> > namita> >>---~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that thehuman stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart readingtoday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Dear Rafal ji, How are you? Thank you very much for your comments. I have provided my comments in line. ~nagarjuna On Behalf Of Rafal GendarzWednesday, February 25, 2009 5:44 AM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Nagarjuna ,Kona to karakaamsa shows desires from past lifes and current tendency, skills which you want to have. -- Is it going to be just what I want to have? How to find out what I can have? Karakaamsa shows also group you belong to. Benefics in kona here shows power of presentation, attraction, Shukra gives artistic skills and art of dealing with people in very gentle manner, here Pisces signshows desire for freedom, spirituality. I have seen many spiritual people with Karakaamsa in Pisces. I am sure everything works, actualized abilities are seen from trikona to Lagna in D9. Are you sure you are cancer? -- You rectified by chart. So, I am sure my Navamsa Lagna is Cancer. Some deep desire to have followers, children, authority? Some karma to establish mission, home, education? -- Agreed. Desire is there, but I have a feeling that the hard work required to achieve the same is missing. RegardsRafal GendarzSJC Jyotish Guru--------------Consultations & Pageshttp://rohinaa.comrafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Hare Rama KrishnaDear Nagarjuna,If I permit to answer-This is a clear example which shows the way we look at teaching. Not onlyyou, but we all do this mistake and most of us end up with challengingteachings of seers.Why did you jump to the Navamsa chart, without mention the Rasi chart ? SeeRasi chart first before you go to any other charts like TITHI PRAVESHA for2009 or D60 of the TITI PRAVESHA etc.Please try to understand Venus in your Rasi chart first. What role she isplaying in chart related to Lagna and AL ? Is she promised to give something ? How she is playing with your mind ect ?In your Rasi chart, Venus and Moon creating very specific relationship.Beacause of this reason, We can say Venus is not in very good mood to giveresults of exaltation in Navamsa/Karakamsa. Perhaps, that is why you arethinking as a normal person. If you really want to learn about this, pleasestudy Marana Karaka principle given by traditional teachings. Some examplesare in COVA.Please forgive me for confusions, if any. Best WishesKaru [] OnBehalf Of nagarjunaTuesday, 24 February 2009 3:07 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsaHi Namita,I have no answer for your query. But, I have a question for you. I amproviding you my birth details here. In my chart, exalted Venus ispresent in trines from both Lagnamsa and Karakamsa. And happy Jupiteris again in trine from Lagnamsa and Karakamsa.But, I am sure that I ama quiet normal person. Time : 13-dec-1978 10:12:10 AMPlace: Chennai, IndiaAs per your statement "If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa isexalted it gives deep knowledge." Are we missing something? May beanalysis w.r.t arudha?regardsnagarjuna, "Namita Jain" <namita.saket@ ...>wrote:>> Respected Sanjayji> > If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa is exalted it gives deep> knowledge, as exemplified by chart of Madam Curie.> How do we intemperate the effects of a planet in trines to navamsa if it> forms parivartana with another planet? An example of such a chart is> chart of Leonardo da Vinci> In his chart Sa and mercury are in 1st and 9th from lagnamsa and are in> parivartana. He was a person with multiple talents. May be this is> because of Saturn(adaptibility ). Also the Saturn itself is atmakaraka.> So the same planets are also in trines from karakamsa.> > Da Vinci, Leonardo> > Natal Chart> > April 15, 1452> Time: 22:46:00> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 10 E 55' 00", 47 N 47' 00"> Altitude: 0.00 meters> > > This chart is a special case where the planets in trines are in> parivartana. Another more simple example is the chart of Sir Issac> Newton. In his chart Ju is the AK and karakamsa is taurus. PLanets in> trines to karakamsa are Ke, Ma and Jupiter. None of them are exalted.> However Ma is in parivartana with mercury(ma in Virgo and me in aries).> Is this the reason of his immense knowledge? (Mercury also lies in> trines from lagnamsa).> > Newton, Sir Isaac> > Natal Chart> > January 4, 1643> Time: 1:38:00> Time Zone: 0:03:00 (West of GMT)> Place: 0 W 40' 00", 52 N 50' 00"> Altitude: 0.00 meters> > Thanks and regards> namita> > > > > , "Sanjay Rath" <sjrath@> wrote:> >> >> >> >> >> > om paramesthi gurave namah> >> > Dear Namita> >> > Brilliant analysis and observations. AK Moon is in 8th house from> Navamsa> > Lagna which is marana karaka sthana and this can also lead to not only> loss> > of health but also death, yet she did not give up her passion. AK> provides> > the forum for lifetime achievements.> >> > With Warm Regards> >> > Sanjay Rath> >> > http://srath. com http://sohamsa. com http:// .org> >> > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India> >> >> >> > > [] On> > Behalf Of Namita Jain> > 06 February 2009 13:39> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa> >> >> >> > Respected members> >> > It is said - "the trines from lagna shows actual abilities while those> > from karakamsa show soul level desire". Does this mean that the> > ability is actually present but may not manifest in society (may even> > cause problems to individual)? Or does it simply say that desire is> > present irrespective of ability? Does the rasi drishti of AK to> > lagnamsa affect the abilities in this regard.> > In this respect I would site the exaple of Dr Marie Curie's chart> >> > Curie, Marie> >> > Natal Chart> >> > November 7, 1867> > Time: 10:36:00> > Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT)> > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00"> > Altitude: 0.00 meters> >> > She has no planets in trines to lagnamsa. AK is moon. Ra and Ma are in> > 5th from AK. This seems to go well with her dedication towards> > studying radioactivity. But it is now beyond doubt that her passion> > for the subject was supported by profound intellectual capabilities.> > How can this be explained by her chart.> > A few observations are -> > 1) The AK moon is exalted in Taurus.> > 2) It has Rasi drishti on lagnamsa in Libra.> > 3) Lord of lagnamsa and karakamsa are same -Venus.> > 4) Madam Marie Curie's achievements were accompanied by personal loss> > (of health). She was so dedicated to her work that she neglected her> > basic needs like food and rest. Is this kind of dedication due to> > involvement of AK.> >> > Thanks & Regards> > namita> >>------------ --------- --------- ------~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that thehuman stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart readingtoday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Nagarjuna , 1. Yes, I was sure i have worked with that chart. 2. Navamsa Lagna kona - what you have. Check argalas also here. 3. Kona to Karakaamsa - what you wanted to master or spiritual skills. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal Dear Rafal ji,  How are you? Thank you very much for your comments.  I have provided my comments in line.  ~nagarjuna [srijagannat h ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:44 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Nagarjuna , Kona to karakaamsa shows desires from past lifes and current tendency, skills which you want to have.  --  Is it going to be just what I want to have? How to find out what I can have?  Karakaamsa shows also group you belong to.  Benefics in kona here shows power of presentation, attraction, Shukra gives artistic skills and art of dealing with people in very gentle manner, here Pisces sign shows desire for freedom, spirituality. I have seen many spiritual people with Karakaamsa in Pisces.   I am sure everything works, actualized abilities are seen from trikona to Lagna in D9. Are you sure you are cancer?  -- You rectified by chart. So, I am sure my Navamsa Lagna is Cancer.  Some deep desire to have followers, children, authority? Some karma to establish mission, home, education?  -- Agreed. Desire is there, but I have a feeling that the hard work required to achieve the same is missing. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Hare Rama Krishna Dear Nagarjuna, If I permit to answer- This is a clear example which shows the way we look at teaching. Not only you, but we all do this mistake and most of us end up with challenging teachings of seers. Why did you jump to the Navamsa chart, without mention the Rasi chart ? See Rasi chart first before you go to any other charts like TITHI PRAVESHA for 2009 or D60 of the TITI PRAVESHA etc. Please try to understand Venus in your Rasi chart first. What role she is playing in chart related to Lagna and AL ? Is she promised to give some thing ? How she is playing with your mind ect ? In your Rasi chart, Venus and Moon creating very specific relationship. Beacause of this reason, We can say Venus is not in very good mood to give results of exaltation in Navamsa/Karakamsa. Perhaps, that is why you are thinking as a normal person. If you really want to learn about this, please study Marana Karaka principle given by traditional teachings. Some examples are in COVA. Please forgive me for confusions, if any. Best Wishes Karu @ . com [@ . com] On Behalf Of nagarjuna Tuesday, 24 February 2009 3:07 PM @ . com Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa Hi Namita, I have no answer for your query. But, I have a question for you. I am providing you my birth details here. In my chart, exalted Venus is present in trines from both Lagnamsa and Karakamsa. And happy Jupiter is again in trine from Lagnamsa and Karakamsa.But, I am sure that I am a quiet normal person. Time : 13-dec-1978 10:12:10 AM Place: Chennai, India As per your statement "If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa is exalted it gives deep knowledge." Are we missing something? May be analysis w.r.t arudha? regards nagarjuna @ . com, "Namita Jain" <namita.saket@ ...> wrote: > > Respected Sanjayji > > If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa is exalted it gives deep > knowledge, as exemplified by chart of Madam Curie. > How do we intemperate the effects of a planet in trines to navamsa if it > forms parivartana with another planet? An example of such a chart is > chart of Leonardo da Vinci > In his chart Sa and mercury are in 1st and 9th from lagnamsa and are in > parivartana. He was a person with multiple talents. May be this is > because of Saturn(adaptibility ). Also the Saturn itself is atmakaraka. > So the same planets are also in trines from karakamsa. > > Da Vinci, Leonardo > > Natal Chart > > April 15, 1452 > Time: 22:46:00 > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 10 E 55' 00", 47 N 47' 00" > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > This chart is a special case where the planets in trines are in > parivartana. Another more simple example is the chart of Sir Issac > Newton. In his chart Ju is the AK and karakamsa is taurus. PLanets in > trines to karakamsa are Ke, Ma and Jupiter. None of them are exalted. > However Ma is in parivartana with mercury(ma in Virgo and me in aries). > Is this the reason of his immense knowledge? (Mercury also lies in > trines from lagnamsa). > > Newton, Sir Isaac > > Natal Chart > > January 4, 1643 > Time: 1:38:00 > Time Zone: 0:03:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 0 W 40' 00", 52 N 50' 00" > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Thanks and regards > namita > > > > > @ . com, "Sanjay Rath" <sjrath@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > om paramesthi gurave namah > > > > Dear Namita > > > > Brilliant analysis and observations. AK Moon is in 8th house from > Navamsa > > Lagna which is marana karaka sthana and this can also lead to not only > loss > > of health but also death, yet she did not give up her passion. AK > provides > > the forum for lifetime achievements. > > > > With Warm Regards > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > http://srath. com http://sohamsa. com http:// ..org > > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India > > > > > > > > @ . com > [@ . com] On > > Behalf Of Namita Jain > > 06 February 2009 13:39 > > @ . com > > [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > It is said - "the trines from lagna shows actual abilities while those > > from karakamsa show soul level desire". Does this mean that the > > ability is actually present but may not manifest in society (may even > > cause problems to individual)? Or does it simply say that desire is > > present irrespective of ability? Does the rasi drishti of AK to > > lagnamsa affect the abilities in this regard. > > In this respect I would site the exaple of Dr Marie Curie's chart > > > > Curie, Marie > > > > Natal Chart > > > > November 7, 1867 > > Time: 10:36:00 > > Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT) > > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > She has no planets in trines to lagnamsa. AK is moon. Ra and Ma are in > > 5th from AK. This seems to go well with her dedication towards > > studying radioactivity. But it is now beyond doubt that her passion > > for the subject was supported by profound intellectual capabilities. > > How can this be explained by her chart. > > A few observations are - > > 1) The AK moon is exalted in Taurus. > > 2) It has Rasi drishti on lagnamsa in Libra. > > 3) Lord of lagnamsa and karakamsa are same -Venus. > > 4) Madam Marie Curie's achievements were accompanied by personal loss > > (of health). She was so dedicated to her work that she neglected her > > basic needs like food and rest. Is this kind of dedication due to > > involvement of AK. > > > > Thanks & Regards > > namita > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Hare Rama Krishan Dear Nagarjuna, When you learn, do all charts and calculation yourself in separate book. Lot of knowledge, available in the form of “Printing mistakes”. Best Wishes Karu On Behalf Of Cherukuri, Nagajurna Friday, 27 February 2009 9:20 AM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa Dear Karu, I have COVA, but I could not grasp most of the concepts when I tried reading it last year. I think, I will try again now. Thank you very much for your points. I never tried to analyze Venus w.r.t. Moon before. I will check that as well. ~nagarjuna On Behalf Of Karu Heenkenda Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:00 AM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa Hare Rama Krishna Dear Nagarjuna, If I permit to answer- This is a clear example which shows the way we look at teaching. Not only you, but we all do this mistake and most of us end up with challenging teachings of seers. Why did you jump to the Navamsa chart, without mention the Rasi chart ? See Rasi chart first before you go to any other charts like TITHI PRAVESHA for 2009 or D60 of the TITI PRAVESHA etc. Please try to understand Venus in your Rasi chart first. What role she is playing in chart related to Lagna and AL ? Is she promised to give some thing ? How she is playing with your mind ect ? In your Rasi chart, Venus and Moon creating very specific relationship. Beacause of this reason, We can say Venus is not in very good mood to give results of exaltation in Navamsa/Karakamsa. Perhaps, that is why you are thinking as a normal person. If you really want to learn about this, please study Marana Karaka principle given by traditional teachings. Some examples are in COVA. Please forgive me for confusions, if any. Best Wishes Karu On Behalf Of nagarjuna Tuesday, 24 February 2009 3:07 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa Hi Namita, I have no answer for your query. But, I have a question for you. I am providing you my birth details here. In my chart, exalted Venus is present in trines from both Lagnamsa and Karakamsa. And happy Jupiter is again in trine from Lagnamsa and Karakamsa.But, I am sure that I am a quiet normal person. Time : 13-dec-1978 10:12:10 AM Place: Chennai, India As per your statement " If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa is exalted it gives deep knowledge. " Are we missing something? May be analysis w.r.t arudha? regards nagarjuna , " Namita Jain " <namita.saket wrote: > > Respected Sanjayji > > If a planet in trines to navamsa/karakamsa is exalted it gives deep > knowledge, as exemplified by chart of Madam Curie. > How do we intemperate the effects of a planet in trines to navamsa if it > forms parivartana with another planet? An example of such a chart is > chart of Leonardo da Vinci > In his chart Sa and mercury are in 1st and 9th from lagnamsa and are in > parivartana. He was a person with multiple talents. May be this is > because of Saturn(adaptibility). Also the Saturn itself is atmakaraka. > So the same planets are also in trines from karakamsa. > > Da Vinci, Leonardo > > Natal Chart > > April 15, 1452 > Time: 22:46:00 > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 10 E 55' 00 " , 47 N 47' 00 " > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > This chart is a special case where the planets in trines are in > parivartana. Another more simple example is the chart of Sir Issac > Newton. In his chart Ju is the AK and karakamsa is taurus. PLanets in > trines to karakamsa are Ke, Ma and Jupiter. None of them are exalted. > However Ma is in parivartana with mercury(ma in Virgo and me in aries). > Is this the reason of his immense knowledge? (Mercury also lies in > trines from lagnamsa). > > Newton, Sir Isaac > > Natal Chart > > January 4, 1643 > Time: 1:38:00 > Time Zone: 0:03:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 0 W 40' 00 " , 52 N 50' 00 " > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Thanks and regards > namita > > > > > , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > om paramesthi gurave namah > > > > Dear Namita > > > > Brilliant analysis and observations. AK Moon is in 8th house from > Navamsa > > Lagna which is marana karaka sthana and this can also lead to not only > loss > > of health but also death, yet she did not give up her passion. AK > provides > > the forum for lifetime achievements. > > > > With Warm Regards > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > http://srath.com http://sohamsa.com http://.org > > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India > > > > > > > > > On > > Behalf Of Namita Jain > > 06 February 2009 13:39 > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Trines from karakamsa > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > It is said - " the trines from lagna shows actual abilities while those > > from karakamsa show soul level desire " . Does this mean that the > > ability is actually present but may not manifest in society (may even > > cause problems to individual)? Or does it simply say that desire is > > present irrespective of ability? Does the rasi drishti of AK to > > lagnamsa affect the abilities in this regard. > > In this respect I would site the exaple of Dr Marie Curie's chart > > > > Curie, Marie > > > > Natal Chart > > > > November 7, 1867 > > Time: 10:36:00 > > Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT) > > Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > She has no planets in trines to lagnamsa. AK is moon. Ra and Ma are in > > 5th from AK. This seems to go well with her dedication towards > > studying radioactivity. But it is now beyond doubt that her passion > > for the subject was supported by profound intellectual capabilities. > > How can this be explained by her chart. > > A few observations are - > > 1) The AK moon is exalted in Taurus. > > 2) It has Rasi drishti on lagnamsa in Libra. > > 3) Lord of lagnamsa and karakamsa are same -Venus. > > 4) Madam Marie Curie's achievements were accompanied by personal loss > > (of health). She was so dedicated to her work that she neglected her > > basic needs like food and rest. Is this kind of dedication due to > > involvement of AK. > > > > Thanks & Regards > > namita > > > --- ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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