Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Respected Guruji's, Could you please tell me if there is denial of marriage in this chart. The subject is a male with DOB - 21--08--1977 POB - Eluru, India and TOB - 17:49. Got a few broken relationships which he thought he was very serious about. 7th house occupied by saturn who is combust and recieves no benefic aspect. 7th house has only 20 points in SAV and Saturn in 7th contributes only 2 points to the house. 7th lord moon is in 10th and is weak. It is aspected by a malefic Jupiter from 6th house. 7th lord Moon is hemmed between Rahu and Ketu. Venus is varegottama but is hemmed between Malefic jupiter and Saturn and is weak in 6th house. UL lord is in 12 from UL. UL has Rahu. UL and AL have a 2/12 relationship. Navamsa Lagna has Rahu and 7th lord in Navamsa in 8th house. Is there anything positive in this chart that denotes marriage? Will he be happily married ever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Dear Ravindramani, Thanks for sharing this chart. On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport here w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L Mars in Navamsha. Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And Moon is in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn has a good grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer and Libra. There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of charts. Some more such charts could shed more light. Thanks again for sharing. Regards, Krishna ________________________________ ravindramani <ravindramani Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM Re: Marriage - Neelam ji Dear Krishna, This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but likes Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. Father died and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary retirement. See the Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an interesting twist here.) Male 1710 hours 2nd August 1954 78E41; 10N49 Zone 5:30 DST:0 Regards, C.S. Ravindramani You wrote: My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and evaluate if they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not the most critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over it. It could only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to identify clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So far, all diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show the combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying to gather such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial marriage is one of them. I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical combination. Thanks again for your time and effort. Regards, Krishna See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. http://in.buzz./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Dear Members, I would like to point out one thing here. Shri K.N.Rao has written somewhere - Venus and Moon relation (conjunction / aspect etc) is detrimental for marriage. He himself was having close Moon-Venus conjunction in lagna and remained unmarried. In present chart too, Moon and Venus are within one degree (see if there was some love affair at some stage and a woman was the reason for his bachelorhood). Then, we should apply common sense reasoning to narrow down the limits and avoid crude generalisation. I feel it works. Praveen Kumar On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama < krishna_1998 wrote: > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > Thanks for sharing this chart. > > On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport here > w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L Mars in > Navamsha. > > Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And Moon is > in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn has a good > grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer and Libra. > > There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. > > Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of charts. > Some more such charts could shed more light. > > Thanks again for sharing. > > Regards, > Krishna > > ________________________________ > ravindramani <ravindramani <ravindramani%40gmail.com>> > <%40> > Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM > Re: Marriage - Neelam ji > > > Dear Krishna, > > This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. > > Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some > background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of > Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning > well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but likes > Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. Father died > and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary retirement. See the > Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an interesting twist here.) > > Male > 1710 hours > 2nd August 1954 > 78E41; 10N49 > Zone 5:30 > DST:0 > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > You wrote: > > My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and evaluate > if > they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not the > most > critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over it. It > could > only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to identify > clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So far, > all > diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show the > combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying to > gather > such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial > marriage > is one of them. > > I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical > combination. > > Thanks again for your time and effort. > > Regards, > Krishna > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out > Buzz. http://in.buzz./ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Dear Praveen and Friends: I hope you do not mind if I comment on the Moon/Venus situation. Personally, I think that if Moon and Venus both rule favorable houses, then their conjunction is favorable and is not detrimental for marriage. However, if the conjunction takes place in an inauspicious house (the sixth, eighth, or twelfth houses), or if their dispositor is weak, afflicted or badly placed, then Moon and Venus become weak and they lack the power to protect or promote their own significations. Additionally, if either the Moon or Venus are malefics for a chart due to their mooltrikona signs falling in a dusthana bhava, then that, too, could cause some problems, assuming the planets are close to each other. In my experience, if planets are not within five degrees of each other, by aspect or conjunction, then there is no impact. In essence, if Moon and Venus, representing happiness and romance, are both benefic planets for a chart, then their impact on each other is in fact favorable. If I have done the chart under discussion correctly, we find the Sagittarius rising sign with Sun in Cancer and Moon in Leo. Is this correct? If so, then we see the Rahu/Ketu axis is on the seventh house of marriage and is within one degree of Jupiter, ruling the chart and children. Moon, ruling the eighth house, becomes a functional malefic planet for Sagittarius rising sign, causing delays, setbacks, obstructions, and disappointments. The Moon's close conjunction with Venus, contributes to the lack of marriage. Additionally, the dispositor (landlord) for Venus is the Sun, which is badly placed in the eighth house, further undermining the strength of Venus. If he had been my client when he was a young man, I would have recommended strengthening Sun, Jupiter and Venus, and doing propitiations for Rahu, Ketu, and Moon. Best wishes, David Hawthorne Fairfield, Iowa USA On Behalf Of Praveen Agrawal Monday, August 10, 2009 1:35 PM Re: Denial of Marriage? Dear Members, I would like to point out one thing here. Shri K.N.Rao has written somewhere - Venus and Moon relation (conjunction / aspect etc) is detrimental for marriage. He himself was having close Moon-Venus conjunction in lagna and remained unmarried. In present chart too, Moon and Venus are within one degree (see if there was some love affair at some stage and a woman was the reason for his bachelorhood). Then, we should apply common sense reasoning to narrow down the limits and avoid crude generalisation. I feel it works. Praveen Kumar On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama < krishna_1998 wrote: > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > Thanks for sharing this chart. > > On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport here > w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L Mars in > Navamsha. > > Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And Moon is > in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn has a good > grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer and Libra. > > There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. > > Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of charts. > Some more such charts could shed more light. > > Thanks again for sharing. > > Regards, > Krishna > > ________________________________ > ravindramani <ravindramani <ravindramani%40gmail.com>> > <%40> > Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM > Re: Marriage - Neelam ji > > > Dear Krishna, > > This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. > > Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some > background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of > Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning > well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but likes > Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. Father died > and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary retirement. See the > Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an interesting twist here.) > > Male > 1710 hours > 2nd August 1954 > 78E41; 10N49 > Zone 5:30 > DST:0 > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > You wrote: > > My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and evaluate > if > they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not the > most > critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over it. It > could > only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to identify > clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So far, > all > diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show the > combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying to > gather > such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial > marriage > is one of them. > > I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical > combination. > > Thanks again for your time and effort. > > Regards, > Krishna > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out > Buzz. http://in.buzz./ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Dear Praveen ji, It is always a great pleasure to read about something that K.N. Rao ji wrote or shared with his many students. He has been a breath of fresh air to Jyotish-cloistered! I am NOT trying to be flippant at all -- but I hope this moon-venus problem does not underlie the WELL-RECOGNIZED & ACCEPTED Transcultural, almost GLOBAL -- Saas-Bahu ka Jhagdaa and Dwesh? Stuff that made Psychologist-Writers add yet another dimension to the other complexes that they created? RR , Praveen Agrawal <pkumar24 wrote: > > Dear Members, > > I would like to point out one thing here. Shri K.N.Rao has written somewhere > - Venus and Moon relation (conjunction / aspect etc) is detrimental for > marriage. He himself was having close Moon-Venus conjunction in lagna and > remained unmarried. In present chart too, Moon and Venus are within one > degree (see if there was some love affair at some stage and a woman was the > reason for his bachelorhood). Then, we should apply common sense reasoning > to narrow down the limits and avoid crude generalisation. I feel it works. > > Praveen Kumar > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama < > krishna_1998 wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > > > Thanks for sharing this chart. > > > > On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport here > > w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L Mars in > > Navamsha. > > > > Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And Moon is > > in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn has a good > > grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer and Libra. > > > > There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. > > > > Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of charts. > > Some more such charts could shed more light. > > > > Thanks again for sharing. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > ________________________________ > > ravindramani <ravindramani <ravindramani%40gmail.com>> > > <%40> > > Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM > > Re: Marriage - Neelam ji > > > > > > Dear Krishna, > > > > This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. > > > > Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some > > background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of > > Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning > > well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but likes > > Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. Father died > > and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary retirement. See the > > Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an interesting twist here.) > > > > Male > > 1710 hours > > 2nd August 1954 > > 78E41; 10N49 > > Zone 5:30 > > DST:0 > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > You wrote: > > > > My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and evaluate > > if > > they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not the > > most > > critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over it. It > > could > > only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to identify > > clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So far, > > all > > diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show the > > combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying to > > gather > > such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial > > marriage > > is one of them. > > > > I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical > > combination. > > > > Thanks again for your time and effort. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out > > Buzz. http://in.buzz./ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Praveen ji, Yes. Moon and Venus combination in 1:7 axis is not a desirable combination for marriage. I have been observing in certain charts where Moon and Venus placed even in 5th house or in 9th house, in close degrees, marriage is not happening in these charts. My additional observation is that in these charts I find Mandi either in 8th house or in 12 house. This chart was seen by Shri K.N. Rao in January 2002, in the senior resarch class in BVB, his first remark was that " has he married....? Regards, C.S. Ravindramani Dear Members, I would like to point out one thing here. Shri K.N.Rao has written somewhere - Venus and Moon relation (conjunction / aspect etc) is detrimental for marriage. He himself was having close Moon-Venus conjunction in lagna and remained unmarried. In present chart too, Moon and Venus are within one degree (see if there was some love affair at some stage and a woman was the reason for his bachelorhood). Then, we should apply common sense reasoning to narrow down the limits and avoid crude generalisation. I feel it works. Praveen Kumar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Dear ShriKrishnaji, Pranams. Here is a chart of the native who is 36 years old who has not been married. Any amount of persuasion has not yielded result and he stoutly refused to marry. DOB: 22/5/1973 : TOB: 2.30PM : POB : SALEM Long 78E10 : Lat 11* N 39. The lagna is Virgo. 7th Lord Jup is debilitated in 5th along with Moon. Mars 3rd and 8th lord is in 6th. Sun, Sat, Merc , Venus are in 9th. LL is combust. All the 4 planets receives aspect of Mars. Deibilitated Jupiter also aspects the 9th house. Kalatrakaraka Venus is conjunct with 6th lord Sat and 12 th Lord Sun and is being aspected by 8th lord Mars. Except Lagna all the planets are between Ketu and Rahu. Is this case also a case of denial of marriage? BTW, the native is a PhD in Therotical Computer and working in Chennai Math.. Institute.He is pursuing his post doctoral research. with regards S.R.Balasubramaniam --- On Mon, 10/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 Re: Denial of Marriage? Monday, 10 August, 2009, 7:24 PM Dear Ravindramani, Thanks for sharing this chart. On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport here w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L Mars in Navamsha. Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And Moon is in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn has a good grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer and Libra. There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of charts. Some more such charts could shed more light. Thanks again for sharing. Regards, Krishna ____________ _________ _________ __ ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com> Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM Re: Marriage - Neelam ji Dear Krishna, This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but likes Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. Father died and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary retirement. See the Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an interesting twist here.) Male 1710 hours 2nd August 1954 78E41; 10N49 Zone 5:30 DST:0 Regards, C.S. Ravindramani You wrote: My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and evaluate if they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not the most critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over it. It could only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to identify clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So far, all diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show the combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying to gather such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial marriage is one of them. I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical combination. Thanks again for your time and effort. Regards, Krishna See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Dear Balasubramaniam, Thanks for sharing this chart. Let me share my opinion. Though Jupiter is in its sign of debilitation, it has well crossed the deep point of debilitation, hence there is little harm done due to this placement. As you have pointed out kalatrakaraka is strongly afflicted. This could possibly the reason for delay. There is Saturn in 7H of navamsha. This could add to the delay. Otherwise, Navamsha does not show anything drastically negative. I feel that this is not a case of denial. Regards, Krishna ________________________________ Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 Tuesday, 11 August, 2009 10:56:29 AM Re: Denial of Marriage? Dear ShriKrishnaji, Pranams. Here is a chart of the native who is 36 years old who has not been married. Any amount of persuasion has not yielded result and he stoutly refused to marry. DOB: 22/5/1973 : TOB: 2.30PM : POB : SALEM Long 78E10 : Lat 11* N 39. The lagna is Virgo. 7th Lord Jup is debilitated in 5th along with Moon. Mars 3rd and 8th lord is in 6th. Sun, Sat, Merc , Venus are in 9th. LL is combust. All the 4 planets receives aspect of Mars. Deibilitated Jupiter also aspects the 9th house. Kalatrakaraka Venus is conjunct with 6th lord Sat and 12 th Lord Sun and is being aspected by 8th lord Mars. Except Lagna all the planets are between Ketu and Rahu. Is this case also a case of denial of marriage? BTW, the native is a PhD in Therotical Computer and working in Chennai Math.. Institute.He is pursuing his post doctoral research. with regards S.R.Balasubramaniam --- On Mon, 10/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > wrote: Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > Re: Denial of Marriage? Monday, 10 August, 2009, 7:24 PM Dear Ravindramani, Thanks for sharing this chart. On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport here w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L Mars in Navamsha. Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And Moon is in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn has a good grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer and Libra. There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of charts. Some more such charts could shed more light. Thanks again for sharing. Regards, Krishna ____________ _________ _________ __ ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com> Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM Re: Marriage - Neelam ji Dear Krishna, This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but likes Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. Father died and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary retirement. See the Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an interesting twist here.) Male 1710 hours 2nd August 1954 78E41; 10N49 Zone 5:30 DST:0 Regards, C.S. Ravindramani You wrote: My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and evaluate if they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not the most critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over it. It could only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to identify clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So far, all diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show the combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying to gather such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial marriage is one of them. I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical combination. Thanks again for your time and effort. Regards, Krishna See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Dear Shri Krishnaji, Thank you very much. with regards, S.R.Balasubramaniam --- On Wed, 12/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 Re: Denial of Marriage? Wednesday, 12 August, 2009, 11:10 AM Dear Balasubramaniam, Thanks for sharing this chart. Let me share my opinion. Though Jupiter is in its sign of debilitation, it has well crossed the deep point of debilitation, hence there is little harm done due to this placement. As you have pointed out kalatrakaraka is strongly afflicted. This could possibly the reason for delay. There is Saturn in 7H of navamsha. This could add to the delay. Otherwise, Navamsha does not show anything drastically negative. I feel that this is not a case of denial. Regards, Krishna ____________ _________ _________ __ Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Tuesday, 11 August, 2009 10:56:29 AM Re: Denial of Marriage? Dear ShriKrishnaji, Pranams. Here is a chart of the native who is 36 years old who has not been married. Any amount of persuasion has not yielded result and he stoutly refused to marry. DOB: 22/5/1973 : TOB: 2.30PM : POB : SALEM Long 78E10 : Lat 11* N 39. The lagna is Virgo. 7th Lord Jup is debilitated in 5th along with Moon. Mars 3rd and 8th lord is in 6th. Sun, Sat, Merc , Venus are in 9th. LL is combust. All the 4 planets receives aspect of Mars. Deibilitated Jupiter also aspects the 9th house. Kalatrakaraka Venus is conjunct with 6th lord Sat and 12 th Lord Sun and is being aspected by 8th lord Mars. Except Lagna all the planets are between Ketu and Rahu. Is this case also a case of denial of marriage? BTW, the native is a PhD in Therotical Computer and working in Chennai Math.. Institute.He is pursuing his post doctoral research. with regards S.R.Balasubramaniam --- On Mon, 10/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > wrote: Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > Re: Denial of Marriage? Monday, 10 August, 2009, 7:24 PM Dear Ravindramani, Thanks for sharing this chart. On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport here w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L Mars in Navamsha. Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And Moon is in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn has a good grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer and Libra. There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of charts. Some more such charts could shed more light. Thanks again for sharing. Regards, Krishna ____________ _________ _________ __ ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com> Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM Re: Marriage - Neelam ji Dear Krishna, This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but likes Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. Father died and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary retirement. See the Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an interesting twist here.) Male 1710 hours 2nd August 1954 78E41; 10N49 Zone 5:30 DST:0 Regards, C.S. Ravindramani You wrote: My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and evaluate if they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not the most critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over it. It could only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to identify clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So far, all diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show the combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying to gather such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial marriage is one of them. I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical combination. Thanks again for your time and effort. Regards, Krishna See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Dear All, There is one more chart. This person is well placed professionally. But, marriage is not one of the priorities on mind. Request members to check if there is only a delay or if there is denial. 4th may, 1970,5.10pm, dehradun Regards, Krishna ________________________________ Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 Wednesday, 12 August, 2009 5:17:53 PM Re: Denial of Marriage? Dear Shri Krishnaji, Thank you very much. with regards, S.R.Balasubramaniam --- On Wed, 12/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > wrote: Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > Re: Denial of Marriage? Wednesday, 12 August, 2009, 11:10 AM Dear Balasubramaniam, Thanks for sharing this chart. Let me share my opinion. Though Jupiter is in its sign of debilitation, it has well crossed the deep point of debilitation, hence there is little harm done due to this placement. As you have pointed out kalatrakaraka is strongly afflicted. This could possibly the reason for delay. There is Saturn in 7H of navamsha. This could add to the delay. Otherwise, Navamsha does not show anything drastically negative. I feel that this is not a case of denial. Regards, Krishna ____________ _________ _________ __ Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Tuesday, 11 August, 2009 10:56:29 AM Re: Denial of Marriage? Dear ShriKrishnaji, Pranams. Here is a chart of the native who is 36 years old who has not been married. Any amount of persuasion has not yielded result and he stoutly refused to marry. DOB: 22/5/1973 : TOB: 2.30PM : POB : SALEM Long 78E10 : Lat 11* N 39. The lagna is Virgo. 7th Lord Jup is debilitated in 5th along with Moon. Mars 3rd and 8th lord is in 6th. Sun, Sat, Merc , Venus are in 9th. LL is combust. All the 4 planets receives aspect of Mars. Deibilitated Jupiter also aspects the 9th house. Kalatrakaraka Venus is conjunct with 6th lord Sat and 12 th Lord Sun and is being aspected by 8th lord Mars. Except Lagna all the planets are between Ketu and Rahu. Is this case also a case of denial of marriage? BTW, the native is a PhD in Therotical Computer and working in Chennai Math.. Institute.He is pursuing his post doctoral research. with regards S.R.Balasubramaniam --- On Mon, 10/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > wrote: Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > Re: Denial of Marriage? Monday, 10 August, 2009, 7:24 PM Dear Ravindramani, Thanks for sharing this chart. On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport here w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L Mars in Navamsha. Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And Moon is in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn has a good grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer and Libra. There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of charts. Some more such charts could shed more light. Thanks again for sharing. Regards, Krishna ____________ _________ _________ __ ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com> Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM Re: Marriage - Neelam ji Dear Krishna, This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but likes Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. Father died and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary retirement. See the Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an interesting twist here.) Male 1710 hours 2nd August 1954 78E41; 10N49 Zone 5:30 DST:0 Regards, C.S. Ravindramani You wrote: My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and evaluate if they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not the most critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over it. It could only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to identify clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So far, all diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show the combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying to gather such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial marriage is one of them. I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical combination. Thanks again for your time and effort. Regards, Krishna See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Dear Krishna ji, Balasubramaniam ji, I feel it could be a tough task to get him married. There is no benefic aspect/planet on 7H and kendras are devoid of planets. 7L is weak in 5H and in PKY, difficulty with emotions and affairs and also children. Mantreshwar does not find 7L in 5H good for marriage. Venus, though strong, is influenced by planets which are not conducive for marriage, Sun and Saturn not good, and mercury is neuter. (though a very good yoga in 9H for a mathematician/logician). Saturn also disposits Jup and moon. Aspect of 8L mars on venus, 12H and Lagna also harms. In navamsha there is Sun-sat opposition on 1-7 axis, Jup-ven in Gemini (barren rashi) is aspected by Saturn from 7H. Most of the planets in dharma trine and four of them with Saturn in 9H indicate a movement away from marriage and worldly life. All these can create serious impediment in getting married. It will be good to keep this chart under observation and I request Balasubramaniam ji to keep us informed about the developments in his life. Thanks and Regards Neelam 2009/8/12 Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > > > Dear Balasubramaniam, > > Thanks for sharing this chart. Let me share my opinion. > > Though Jupiter is in its sign of debilitation, it has well crossed the deep > point of debilitation, hence there is little harm done due to this > placement. As you have pointed out kalatrakaraka is strongly afflicted. This > could possibly the reason for delay. There is Saturn in 7H of navamsha. This > could add to the delay. Otherwise, Navamsha does not show anything > drastically negative. > > I feel that this is not a case of denial. > > Regards, > Krishna > > ________________________________ > Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46<balsu46%40.co.in> > > > <%40> > Tuesday, 11 August, 2009 10:56:29 AM > > Re: Denial of Marriage? > > > Dear ShriKrishnaji, > Pranams. Here is a chart of the native who is 36 years old who > has not been married. Any amount of persuasion has not yielded result and > he stoutly refused to marry. > DOB: 22/5/1973 : TOB: 2.30PM : POB : SALEM Long 78E10 : Lat 11* N > 39. > > The lagna is Virgo. 7th Lord Jup is debilitated in 5th along with Moon. > Mars 3rd and 8th lord is in 6th. Sun, Sat, Merc , Venus are in 9th. LL is > combust. All the 4 planets receives aspect of Mars. Deibilitated Jupiter > also aspects the 9th house. Kalatrakaraka Venus is conjunct with 6th lord > Sat and 12 th Lord Sun and is being aspected by 8th lord Mars. Except Lagna > all the planets are between Ketu and Rahu. > Is this case also a case of denial of marriage? > BTW, the native is a PhD in Therotical Computer and working in Chennai > Math.. Institute.He is pursuing his post doctoral research. > > with regards > S.R.Balasubramaniam > > --- On Mon, 10/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > > wrote: > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > > Re: Denial of Marriage? > > Monday, 10 August, 2009, 7:24 PM > > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > Thanks for sharing this chart. > > On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport here > w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L Mars in > Navamsha. > > Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And Moon is > in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn has a good > grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer and Libra. > > There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. > > Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of charts. > Some more such charts could shed more light. > > Thanks again for sharing. > > Regards, > > Krishna > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com> > > > > Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM > > Re: Marriage - Neelam ji > > > > Dear Krishna, > > This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. > > Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some > background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of > Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning > well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but likes > Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. Father died > and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary retirement. See the > Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an interesting twist here.) > > Male > > 1710 hours > > 2nd August 1954 > > 78E41; 10N49 > > Zone 5:30 > > DST:0 > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > You wrote: > > My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and evaluate > if > > they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not the > most > > critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over it. It > could > > only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to identify > > clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So far, > all > > diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show the > > combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying to > gather > > such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial > marriage > > is one of them. > > I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical > combination. > > Thanks again for your time and effort. > > Regards, > > Krishna > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out > Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Dear Neelam ji, You have made some good observations. I still feel that there is a struggle between forces that would bless the native with marriage and the forces that would want take the native away from marriage. That is the reason for the delay. Though Saturn appears to be doing lot of things, it has low shadbala. Hence, its influence is limited. Venus has much better shadbala. Also, though Mercury is a Neuter, it is the 7L in Navamsha. That way, it is good that Mercury is with Venus. Let us keep our fingers crossed... Regards, Krishna ________________________________ neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Thursday, 13 August, 2009 12:47:41 AM Re: Denial of Marriage? Dear Krishna ji, Balasubramaniam ji, I feel it could be a tough task to get him married. There is no benefic aspect/planet on 7H and kendras are devoid of planets. 7L is weak in 5H and in PKY, difficulty with emotions and affairs and also children. Mantreshwar does not find 7L in 5H good for marriage. Venus, though strong, is influenced by planets which are not conducive for marriage, Sun and Saturn not good, and mercury is neuter. (though a very good yoga in 9H for a mathematician/ logician) . Saturn also disposits Jup and moon. Aspect of 8L mars on venus, 12H and Lagna also harms. In navamsha there is Sun-sat opposition on 1-7 axis, Jup-ven in Gemini (barren rashi) is aspected by Saturn from 7H. Most of the planets in dharma trine and four of them with Saturn in 9H indicate a movement away from marriage and worldly life. All these can create serious impediment in getting married. It will be good to keep this chart under observation and I request Balasubramaniam ji to keep us informed about the developments in his life. Thanks and Regards Neelam 2009/8/12 Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > > > > Dear Balasubramaniam, > > Thanks for sharing this chart. Let me share my opinion. > > Though Jupiter is in its sign of debilitation, it has well crossed the deep > point of debilitation, hence there is little harm done due to this > placement. As you have pointed out kalatrakaraka is strongly afflicted. This > could possibly the reason for delay. There is Saturn in 7H of navamsha. This > could add to the delay. Otherwise, Navamsha does not show anything > drastically negative. > > I feel that this is not a case of denial. > > Regards, > Krishna > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 (AT) (DOT) co.in<balsu46%40. co.in> > > > <% 40. com> > Tuesday, 11 August, 2009 10:56:29 AM > > Re: Denial of Marriage? > > > Dear ShriKrishnaji, > Pranams. Here is a chart of the native who is 36 years old who > has not been married. Any amount of persuasion has not yielded result and > he stoutly refused to marry. > DOB: 22/5/1973 : TOB: 2.30PM : POB : SALEM Long 78E10 : Lat 11* N > 39. > > The lagna is Virgo. 7th Lord Jup is debilitated in 5th along with Moon. > Mars 3rd and 8th lord is in 6th. Sun, Sat, Merc , Venus are in 9th. LL is > combust. All the 4 planets receives aspect of Mars. Deibilitated Jupiter > also aspects the 9th house. Kalatrakaraka Venus is conjunct with 6th lord > Sat and 12 th Lord Sun and is being aspected by 8th lord Mars. Except Lagna > all the planets are between Ketu and Rahu. > Is this case also a case of denial of marriage? > BTW, the native is a PhD in Therotical Computer and working in Chennai > Math.. Institute.He is pursuing his post doctoral research. > > with regards > S.R.Balasubramaniam > > --- On Mon, 10/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > > wrote: > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > > Re: Denial of Marriage? > > Monday, 10 August, 2009, 7:24 PM > > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > Thanks for sharing this chart. > > On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport here > w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L Mars in > Navamsha. > > Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And Moon is > in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn has a good > grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer and Libra. > > There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. > > Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of charts. > Some more such charts could shed more light. > > Thanks again for sharing. > > Regards, > > Krishna > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com> > > > > Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM > > Re: Marriage - Neelam ji > > > > Dear Krishna, > > This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. > > Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some > background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of > Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning > well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but likes > Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. Father died > and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary retirement. See the > Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an interesting twist here.) > > Male > > 1710 hours > > 2nd August 1954 > > 78E41; 10N49 > > Zone 5:30 > > DST:0 > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > You wrote: > > My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and evaluate > if > > they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not the > most > > critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over it. It > could > > only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to identify > > clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So far, > all > > diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show the > > combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying to > gather > > such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial > marriage > > is one of them. > > I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical > combination. > > Thanks again for your time and effort. > > Regards, > > Krishna > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out > Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Dear friends, If I am permitted to write a few lines over this chart, I prefer to pay attention to and it is always profitable if D-7 is analyzed, hand in hand, while examining a chart for the purpose of marriage. In the instant chart, Mars and Saturn two natural malefic planets placed in D-7 lagna. Saturn is the 6th lord and Mars is the 8th lord of natal chart proper. Rahu and Ketu axis falls over 5th and 11th houses of D-7. Venus the 6th lord exalted in 11th house. From the Karaka Jupiter for progeny, Rahu is placed in 5thhouse. This is not a rosy picture for progeny. From Jaimini angle, Moon becomes the DK and aspected by Sun the GK. DKN and UPA fall in 6th house where Mars is placed. The 2nd house from UPA is influenced by Rahu and Kethu. From the KL, in the 9th house number of raja yogas rise involving the 5th house and the 9th house, suggesting the spiritual line at the later stage life. Still the presence of GK indicates a struggle, which is inevitable obviously in the spiritual path. Interestingly, PK Mercury is very closely placed with Sun the GK. Pada of 5th house falls in Virgo and is influenced by again Rahu and Ketu. Just some random thoughts….. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Subramaniam, I am looking at this chart, due to sheer personal interest--though it has been addressed to my jyotish friend,Krishnamurthyji & also answered by respectable members on board. Apparently, there is no problem with 7L, Jupiter, but we oversee, that Jupiter is actually slow in movement, in this case.Further, Jupiter, lord of 7H is hemmed between malefics[Mars who is lord of 3H/8H & Rahu], in equal distance!! Again, Jupiter receives some affliction, due to position of Rahu in one of Jupiter's signs. Now coming to the natural significator of Marriage, Venus. Venus gets the closest affliction of Mars, by aspect from 6H of opposition. Further, Venus is combusted & also joined by planets like Saturn, who is 6L as well. It seems, that post 2004, talks on his Marriage were going on, however, it got blocked, perhaps due to transit Saturn aspecting & further, Rahu over natal Jup n also aspecting Natal Venus. Thank you, Gaurav. , Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 wrote: > > Dear ShriKrishnaji, > Pranams. Here is a chart of the native who is 36 years old who has not been married. Any amount of persuasion has not yielded result and he stoutly refused to marry. > DOB: 22/5/1973 : TOB: 2.30PM : POB : SALEM Long 78E10 : Lat 11* N 39. > > The lagna is Virgo. 7th Lord Jup is debilitated in 5th along with Moon. Mars 3rd and 8th lord is in 6th. Sun, Sat, Merc , Venus are in 9th. LL is combust. All the 4 planets receives aspect of Mars. Deibilitated Jupiter also aspects the 9th house. Kalatrakaraka Venus is conjunct with 6th lord Sat and 12 th Lord Sun and is being aspected by 8th lord Mars. Except Lagna all the planets are between Ketu and Rahu. > Is this case also a case of denial of marriage? > BTW, the native is a PhD in Therotical Computer and working in Chennai Math.. Institute.He is pursuing his post doctoral research. > > with regards > S.R.Balasubramaniam > > --- On Mon, 10/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > Re: Denial of Marriage? > > Monday, 10 August, 2009, 7:24 PM > > > > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > > > Thanks for sharing this chart. > > > > On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport here w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L Mars in Navamsha. > > > > Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And Moon is in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn has a good grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer and Libra. > > > > There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. > > > > Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of charts. Some more such charts could shed more light. > > > > Thanks again for sharing. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com> > > > > Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM > > Re: Marriage - Neelam ji > > > > > > Dear Krishna, > > > > This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. > > > > Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but likes Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. Father died and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary retirement. See the Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an interesting twist here.) > > > > Male > > 1710 hours > > 2nd August 1954 > > 78E41; 10N49 > > Zone 5:30 > > DST:0 > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > You wrote: > > > > My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and evaluate if > > they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not the most > > critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over it. It could > > only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to identify > > clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So far, all > > diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show the > > combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying to gather > > such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial marriage > > is one of them. > > > > I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical combination. > > > > Thanks again for your time and effort. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Dear Balasubramaniam The chart is weak for marriage. But donot get suprised if he tries to marry next year. Best wishes Sudhir -- - Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:10 PM Re: Denial of Marriage? , Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 wrote: > > Dear ShriKrishnaji, > Pranams. Here is a chart of the native who is 36 years old who has not been married. Any amount of persuasion has not yielded result and he stoutly refused to marry. > DOB: 22/5/1973 : TOB: 2.30PM : POB : SALEM Long 78E10 : Lat 11* N 39. > > The lagna is Virgo. 7th Lord Jup is debilitated in 5th along with Moon. Mars 3rd and 8th lord is in 6th. Sun, Sat, Merc , Venus are in 9th. LL is combust. All the 4 planets receives aspect of Mars. Deibilitated Jupiter also aspects the 9th house. Kalatrakaraka Venus is conjunct with 6th lord Sat and 12 th Lord Sun and is being aspected by 8th lord Mars. Except Lagna all the planets are between Ketu and Rahu. > Is this case also a case of denial of marriage? > BTW, the native is a PhD in Therotical Computer and working in Chennai Math.. Institute.He is pursuing his post doctoral research. > > with regards > S.R.Balasubramaniam > > --- On Mon, 10/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > Re: Denial of Marriage? > > Monday, 10 August, 2009, 7:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > > > Thanks for sharing this chart. > > > > On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport here w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L Mars in Navamsha. > > > > Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And Moon is in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn has a good grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer and Libra. > > > > There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. > > > > Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of charts. Some more such charts could shed more light. > > > > Thanks again for sharing. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com> > > > > Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM > > Re: Marriage - Neelam ji > > > > > > Dear Krishna, > > > > This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. > > > > Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but likes Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. Father died and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary retirement. See the Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an interesting twist here.) > > > > Male > > 1710 hours > > 2nd August 1954 > > 78E41; 10N49 > > Zone 5:30 > > DST:0 > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > You wrote: > > > > My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and evaluate if > > they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not the most > > critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over it. It could > > only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to identify > > clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So far, all > > diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show the > > combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying to gather > > such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial marriage > > is one of them. > > > > I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical combination. > > > > Thanks again for your time and effort. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Dear Smt Neelamji, Thank you for your observations. Kindly excuse me for the delay in response as I had been away from my place on vacation. It is true that the 7th lord, 7th house and Venus are weak and the Navamsa positions are not in any helping mode. I shall give some more information regarding the general traits of the native. He is fond of Hindu culture and he studies Vedanta and Tarka Sasthra with a pandit in Chennai. He is highly unruffled even in worst situations. He lost his mother in 1986 at his age of 13. He had an elder sister working in AIRINDIA as a hostess and she had passed away in 2007 at her age of 36 years. She has left aconsiderable sum of money which may belong to him after his father.During all these calamities he was behaving like a matured adult and he was totally unruffled. He is living with his aged father(73 years) and he cooks his own meal with very great passion. He never broods over the adversities of lifeand he takes everything as inevitable. He is very fond of Carnatic music and Chess. He wears his southindian attire Dhoti and attended a seminar in Germany and Austria. He is able to live with fruits for a month in PARIS. All these things may look queer but in my opinion he draws strength from the Divine. Perhaps this would throw some more light on the discussion. with regards, S.R.Balasubramaniam --- On Thu, 13/8/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Re: Denial of Marriage? Thursday, 13 August, 2009, 12:47 AM Dear Krishna ji, Balasubramaniam ji, I feel it could be a tough task to get him married. There is no benefic aspect/planet on 7H and kendras are devoid of planets. 7L is weak in 5H and in PKY, difficulty with emotions and affairs and also children. Mantreshwar does not find 7L in 5H good for marriage. Venus, though strong, is influenced by planets which are not conducive for marriage, Sun and Saturn not good, and mercury is neuter. (though a very good yoga in 9H for a mathematician/ logician) . Saturn also disposits Jup and moon. Aspect of 8L mars on venus, 12H and Lagna also harms. In navamsha there is Sun-sat opposition on 1-7 axis, Jup-ven in Gemini (barren rashi) is aspected by Saturn from 7H. Most of the planets in dharma trine and four of them with Saturn in 9H indicate a movement away from marriage and worldly life. All these can create serious impediment in getting married. It will be good to keep this chart under observation and I request Balasubramaniam ji to keep us informed about the developments in his life. Thanks and Regards Neelam 2009/8/12 Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > > > > Dear Balasubramaniam, > > Thanks for sharing this chart. Let me share my opinion. > > Though Jupiter is in its sign of debilitation, it has well crossed the deep > point of debilitation, hence there is little harm done due to this > placement. As you have pointed out kalatrakaraka is strongly afflicted. This > could possibly the reason for delay. There is Saturn in 7H of navamsha. This > could add to the delay. Otherwise, Navamsha does not show anything > drastically negative. > > I feel that this is not a case of denial. > > Regards, > Krishna > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 (AT) (DOT) co.in<balsu46%40. co.in> > > > <% 40. com> > Tuesday, 11 August, 2009 10:56:29 AM > > Re: Denial of Marriage? > > > Dear ShriKrishnaji, > Pranams. Here is a chart of the native who is 36 years old who > has not been married. Any amount of persuasion has not yielded result and > he stoutly refused to marry. > DOB: 22/5/1973 : TOB: 2.30PM : POB : SALEM Long 78E10 : Lat 11* N > 39. > > The lagna is Virgo. 7th Lord Jup is debilitated in 5th along with Moon. > Mars 3rd and 8th lord is in 6th. Sun, Sat, Merc , Venus are in 9th. LL is > combust. All the 4 planets receives aspect of Mars. Deibilitated Jupiter > also aspects the 9th house. Kalatrakaraka Venus is conjunct with 6th lord > Sat and 12 th Lord Sun and is being aspected by 8th lord Mars. Except Lagna > all the planets are between Ketu and Rahu. > Is this case also a case of denial of marriage? > BTW, the native is a PhD in Therotical Computer and working in Chennai > Math.. Institute.He is pursuing his post doctoral research. > > with regards > S.R.Balasubramaniam > > --- On Mon, 10/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > > wrote: > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > > Re: Denial of Marriage? > > Monday, 10 August, 2009, 7:24 PM > > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > Thanks for sharing this chart. > > On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport here > w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L Mars in > Navamsha. > > Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And Moon is > in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn has a good > grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer and Libra. > > There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. > > Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of charts. > Some more such charts could shed more light. > > Thanks again for sharing. > > Regards, > > Krishna > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com> > > > > Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM > > Re: Marriage - Neelam ji > > > > Dear Krishna, > > This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. > > Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some > background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of > Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning > well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but likes > Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. Father died > and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary retirement. See the > Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an interesting twist here.) > > Male > > 1710 hours > > 2nd August 1954 > > 78E41; 10N49 > > Zone 5:30 > > DST:0 > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > You wrote: > > My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and evaluate > if > > they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not the > most > > critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over it. It > could > > only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to identify > > clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So far, > all > > diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show the > > combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying to > gather > > such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial > marriage > > is one of them. > > I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical > combination. > > Thanks again for your time and effort. > > Regards, > > Krishna > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out > Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Dear Balasubramaniam ji, Thank you for giving further details of native’s life. I think they agree with his planetary positions and what we’ve discussed earlier. Mercury, Venus and Saturn form a great Rajyogas of Kendra-kona lords in 9H. As I said earlier, this is bound to take him on the spiritual path. Study of Vedas and Shastras are a part of this journey which are enforced by the LL/10L mercury and influence of the two gurus and 5L. Four planets in 9H form a nearly perfect Pravrajya yoga due to which he lives like an ascetic. Coming Jupiter’s mahadasha can take him towards writing work. Jupiter and moon conjoined in 5H also 5th from Karakamsha can make him a serious writer, may not be creative writing but commentaries and analytical reviews. In navamsh, Jup-venus (AmK+BK) are in 10H from AK in Gemini, and form a good aspect in kendras. Jupiter as the lord of 4/7 houses and karaka of elder siblings, children, etc., being debilitated and worse, in Papkatri yoga has perhaps been the main cause of deficiency in these areas. Moon as the lord of 11th house and karaka of mother is also afflicted along with Jupiter. Rahu-mars from 2010 might again be difficult. Mars is 7/12 lord from 9H of father and aspects 9H and planets therein. It is in 12H in navamsha and Rahu in Leo in 6H. I am still doubtful about marriage. Thanks and Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Dear Smt Neelamji,              Thanks for your extra details regarding the native. He is very stubborn in not getting married. Your observation is well founded. I am really enjoying your way of presenting the matters with your excellent logic. I am jealous of you. I wish I should learn this science from you. Thank you once again.  with regards, S.R.Balasubramaniam --- On Mon, 17/8/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Re: Denial of Marriage? Monday, 17 August, 2009, 3:39 PM Dear Balasubramaniam ji, Thank you for giving further details of native’s life. I think they agree with his planetary positions and what we’ve discussed earlier. Mercury, Venus and Saturn form a great Rajyogas of Kendra-kona lords in 9H. As I said earlier, this is bound to take him on the spiritual path. Study of Vedas and Shastras are a part of this journey which are enforced by the LL/10L mercury and influence of the two gurus and 5L. Four planets in 9H form a nearly perfect Pravrajya yoga due to which he lives like an ascetic. Coming Jupiter’s mahadasha can take him towards writing work. Jupiter and moon conjoined in 5H also 5th from Karakamsha can make him a serious writer, may not be creative writing but commentaries and analytical reviews. In navamsh, Jup-venus (AmK+BK) are in 10H from AK in Gemini, and form a good aspect in kendras. Jupiter as the lord of 4/7 houses and karaka of elder siblings, children, etc., being debilitated and worse, in Papkatri yoga has perhaps been the main cause of deficiency in these areas. Moon as the lord of 11th house and karaka of mother is also afflicted along with Jupiter. Rahu-mars from 2010 might again be difficult. Mars is 7/12 lord from 9H of father and aspects 9H and planets therein. It is in 12H in navamsha and Rahu in Leo in 6H. I am still doubtful about marriage. Thanks and Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Dear Balasubramaniam ji, a few more observations on this chart. Lagna is virgo(bachelor) rising in the nakshatra of 12th lord. & the 7th lord ofcourse is aflicted by 11th in the nakshatra of 11th lord as well,debilitated and in PKY. Vargottama Mars as 8th lord aswellas U/L/L in a fixed sign is aflicted by saturn from another fixed sign.Mars is aflicting Darakarak navamsa as well. 12th lord of Rasi sun in lagna in mutual aspect with saturn in 7th in D9. DK in 12th with varg Mars and ketu in D9. Both AK AND DK though in mutual asp are aflicted. upapada in a fixed sign with many influences and 2nd from U/P/L with Rahu. I think the above are all not conducive to marriage. Love and regards, gopi. n , Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 wrote: > > Dear ShriKrishnaji, > Pranams. Here is a chart of the native who is 36 years old who has not been married. Any amount of persuasion has not yielded result and he stoutly refused to marry. > DOB: 22/5/1973 : TOB: 2.30PM : POB : SALEM Long 78E10 : Lat 11* N 39. > > The lagna is Virgo. 7th Lord Jup is debilitated in 5th along with Moon. Mars 3rd and 8th lord is in 6th. Sun, Sat, Merc , Venus are in 9th. LL is combust. All the 4 planets receives aspect of Mars. Deibilitated Jupiter also aspects the 9th house. Kalatrakaraka Venus is conjunct with 6th lord Sat and 12 th Lord Sun and is being aspected by 8th lord Mars. Except Lagna all the planets are between Ketu and Rahu. > Is this case also a case of denial of marriage? > BTW, the native is a PhD in Therotical Computer and working in Chennai Math.. Institute.He is pursuing his post doctoral research. > > with regards > S.R.Balasubramaniam > > --- On Mon, 10/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998 wrote: > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998 > Re: Denial of Marriage? > > Monday, 10 August, 2009, 7:24 PM > > > > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > > > Thanks for sharing this chart. > > > > On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport here w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L Mars in Navamsha. > > > > Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And Moon is in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn has a good grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer and Libra. > > > > There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. > > > > Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of charts. Some more such charts could shed more light. > > > > Thanks again for sharing. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com> > > > > Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM > > Re: Marriage - Neelam ji > > > > > > Dear Krishna, > > > > This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. > > > > Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but likes Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. Father died and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary retirement. See the Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an interesting twist here.) > > > > Male > > 1710 hours > > 2nd August 1954 > > 78E41; 10N49 > > Zone 5:30 > > DST:0 > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > You wrote: > > > > My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and evaluate if > > they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not the most > > critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over it. It could > > only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to identify > > clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So far, all > > diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show the > > combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying to gather > > such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial marriage > > is one of them. > > > > I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical combination. > > > > Thanks again for your time and effort. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Dear Shri Gopiji, Pranams. You have given another different angle for the denial of marriage in the case of this native. Madam Smt Neelamji had given exhaustive reasoning for such a situation. Shri Krishnaji and Shri CSRji and others had also seen the deficiency.Regarding the denial of marriage, I have a hunch if the retrograde planets are contributing their might to such an impasse. In practice we see the retro planets posited in the Kutumba Sathan, Kalathrastan, the 7th lord becomes retrograde, Kalathrakaraka becomes retrograde, the impact will be more.( It is my humble opinion as a beginner in the science). Please see the following chart: DOB: 1/3/1980: POB: Long: 77* N44 and Lat : 11*E 21 TOB: 2.00 AM. The native is of Dhanur Lagna. Sun, MeR and Ketu are in Aquarius. Moon, JuR, MaR and Rahu are in Leo. Venus is in Pisces in Revathy pada4. SaR is in Virgo. In Navamsa, Sun and Venus are in Pisces. Moon and Rahu and the Ascendant are in Taurus. MeR is in Gemini. MaR and JuR are in Cancer. SaR is in Capricorn. Ketu is in Scorpio. Primarily, the birth is on an Lunar Eclipse day. The 7th lord Mercury is retro and combust.Mars(retro) and Jupiter Retro aspects the 7th lord. 9th lord Sun is joined by Ketu. Venus is vargothama in exaltation. But is in Mercury's star Revathy 4th Pada. Venus is being aspected by Retro Saturn and Retro Mars. In Navamsa also Venus is aspected by Retro Saturn. In Navamsa Lagna Rishaba ,Rahu joined Moon. Mercury Retro is in 2nd house. The running Mahadasa is SunMD/Venus AD till 25/2/2010. The native is interested in marriage but it is yet to happen. The planets in Navamsa are curiously placed. But will it confer the marriage to this native? It is a moot point even if the marriage takes place, will it last? The learned may give their opinion. with regards, S.R.Balasubramaniam --- On Mon, 24/8/09, gopi_b927 <gopi_b927 wrote: gopi_b927 <gopi_b927 Re: Denial of Marriage? Monday, 24 August, 2009, 9:12 PM Dear Balasubramaniam ji, a few more observations on this chart. Lagna is virgo(bachelor) rising in the nakshatra of 12th lord. & the 7th lord ofcourse is aflicted by 11th in the nakshatra of 11th lord as well,debilitated and in PKY. Vargottama Mars as 8th lord aswellas U/L/L in a fixed sign is aflicted by saturn from another fixed sign.Mars is aflicting Darakarak navamsa as well. 12th lord of Rasi sun in lagna in mutual aspect with saturn in 7th in D9. DK in 12th with varg Mars and ketu in D9. Both AK AND DK though in mutual asp are aflicted. upapada in a fixed sign with many influences and 2nd from U/P/L with Rahu. I think the above are all not conducive to marriage. Love and regards, gopi. n , Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 > wrote: > > Dear ShriKrishnaji, > Pranams. Here is a chart of the native who is 36 years old who has not been married. Any amount of persuasion has not yielded result and he stoutly refused to marry. > DOB: 22/5/1973 : TOB: 2.30PM : POB : SALEM Long 78E10 : Lat 11* N 39. > > The lagna is Virgo. 7th Lord Jup is debilitated in 5th along with Moon. Mars 3rd and 8th lord is in 6th. Sun, Sat, Merc , Venus are in 9th. LL is combust. All the 4 planets receives aspect of Mars. Deibilitated Jupiter also aspects the 9th house. Kalatrakaraka Venus is conjunct with 6th lord Sat and 12 th Lord Sun and is being aspected by 8th lord Mars. Except Lagna all the planets are between Ketu and Rahu. > Is this case also a case of denial of marriage? > BTW, the native is a PhD in Therotical Computer and working in Chennai Math.. Institute.He is pursuing his post doctoral research. > > with regards > S.R.Balasubramaniam > > --- On Mon, 10/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998@ ... wrote: > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998@ ... > Re: Denial of Marriage? > > Monday, 10 August, 2009, 7:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > > > Thanks for sharing this chart. > > > > On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport here w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L Mars in Navamsha. > > > > Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And Moon is in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn has a good grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer and Libra. > > > > There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. > > > > Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of charts. Some more such charts could shed more light. > > > > Thanks again for sharing. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com> > > > > Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM > > Re: Marriage - Neelam ji > > > > > > Dear Krishna, > > > > This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. > > > > Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but likes Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. Father died and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary retirement. See the Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an interesting twist here.) > > > > Male > > 1710 hours > > 2nd August 1954 > > 78E41; 10N49 > > Zone 5:30 > > DST:0 > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > You wrote: > > > > My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and evaluate if > > they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not the most > > critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over it. It could > > only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to identify > > clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So far, all > > diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show the > > combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying to gather > > such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial marriage > > is one of them. > > > > I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical combination. > > > > Thanks again for your time and effort. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. 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Guest guest Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Dear Balasubramaniam ji, Another interesting chart from you! The planetary position appears curious, with retrogrades and clustering, but on careful scrutiny, I think it is not bad for marriage. Some important points worth considering could be (presuming lagna degrees to be correct): There is no denial of marriage, though 7H in both D-1 and D-9 are devoid of benefic influence, the lords are protected. 2/4/7/8/12 houses are relatively free from affliction. And these lords well placed. Saturn is the main marriage giver in the chart, along with 7L mercury. Saturn is 2L of addition to family, 3L as efforts and dispositor of 7L, aspecting 7H from a friendly 10H. It is the 7L from moon in 2H, aspects 4/8/11 from moon. It is in 7H from Venus. In the navamsha Saturn is 11L of fulfillment of desires, aspecting 7/12 houses. Saturn is also the DK. Saturn will only cause delay as it can give slow results and being retrograde, it becomes somewhat unpredictable. It is at a good distance from venus and venus in its sign of exaltation in 12H of navamsha will give its results of marital bliss. I think the delay period is almost over with Sun’s mahadasha. Moon is likely to be good for mangalya. Moon is conjoined 5/9 lords and Rahu. Marriage will take place soon, as double transit will activate his 7H next year along with a favourable dasha. I do not see any unusual problem in marital life, except too much mental focus on relationship creating worries. It could be an inter-religious, love marriage through his own efforts. The planets in 3/9 axis might indicate the problems with parent’s marriage or some change in religion or following of some cult by the parents. He himself could be insecure about something from the family and might also be having some phobia, with Rahu-moon in exact conjunction. Often malefics in 9H with a retrograde Jupiter can mean problems and challenges with traditions, teachers, father and father-like figures. Hope to have your feedback on this. Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Dear Gopi ji, Thanks for additional points on the previous chart. //Lagna is virgo (bachelor) rising in the nakshatra of 12th lord. & the 7th lord ofcourse is aflicted by 11th in the nakshatra of 11th lord as well// I am sorry, this point is not clear. Rashi in which 7H/7L or venus are placed should not be in barren rashis, it is said. But lagna in virgo should not be a bachelor producing factor. If Lagna nakshatra lord is 12L, how does it deny marriage or if 7L is in nakshatra of 11L, it should rather promote marriage, isn't it? Regards Neelam 2009/8/24 gopi_b927 <gopi_b927 > > > > Dear Balasubramaniam ji, > > a few more observations on this chart. > > Lagna is virgo(bachelor) rising in the nakshatra of 12th lord. & the 7th > lord ofcourse is aflicted by 11th in the nakshatra of 11th lord as > well,debilitated and in PKY. > > Vargottama Mars as 8th lord aswellas U/L/L in a fixed sign is aflicted > by saturn from another fixed sign.Mars is aflicting Darakarak navamsa as > well. > > 12th lord of Rasi sun in lagna in mutual aspect with saturn in 7th in > D9. > > DK in 12th with varg Mars and ketu in D9. > > Both AK AND DK though in mutual asp are aflicted. > > upapada in a fixed sign with many influences and 2nd from U/P/L with > Rahu. > > I think the above are all not conducive to marriage. > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > > n <%40>, > Balasubramaniam > > Ramachandran <balsu46 wrote: > > > > Dear ShriKrishnaji, > > Pranams. Here is a chart of the native who is 36 years old > who has not been married. Any amount of persuasion has not yielded > result and he stoutly refused to marry. > > DOB: 22/5/1973 : TOB: 2.30PM : POB : SALEM Long 78E10 : Lat > 11* N 39. > > > > The lagna is Virgo. 7th Lord Jup is debilitated in 5th along with > Moon. Mars 3rd and 8th lord is in 6th. Sun, Sat, Merc , Venus are in > 9th. LL is combust. All the 4 planets receives aspect of Mars. > Deibilitated Jupiter also aspects the 9th house. Kalatrakaraka Venus is > conjunct with 6th lord Sat and 12 th Lord Sun and is being aspected by > 8th lord Mars. Except Lagna all the planets are between Ketu and Rahu. > > Is this case also a case of denial of marriage? > > BTW, the native is a PhD in Therotical Computer and working in Chennai > Math.. Institute.He is pursuing his post doctoral research. > > > > with regards > > S.R.Balasubramaniam > > > > --- On Mon, 10/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998 wrote: > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998 > > > Re: Denial of Marriage? > > <%40> > > Monday, 10 August, 2009, 7:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > > > > > > > Thanks for sharing this chart. > > > > > > > > On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport > here w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L > Mars in Navamsha. > > > > > > > > Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And > Moon is in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn > has a good grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer > and Libra. > > > > > > > > There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. > > > > > > > > Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of > charts. Some more such charts could shed more light. > > > > > > > > Thanks again for sharing. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com> > > > > > > > > Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM > > > > Re: Marriage - Neelam ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishna, > > > > > > > > This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. > > > > > > > > Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some > background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of > Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning > well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but > likes Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. > Father died and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary > retirement. See the Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an > interesting twist here.) > > > > > > > > Male > > > > 1710 hours > > > > 2nd August 1954 > > > > 78E41; 10N49 > > > > Zone 5:30 > > > > DST:0 > > > > > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > > > My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and > evaluate if > > > > they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not > the most > > > > critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over > it. It could > > > > only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to > identify > > > > clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So > far, all > > > > diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show > the > > > > combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying > to gather > > > > such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial > marriage > > > > is one of them. > > > > > > > > I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical > combination. > > > > > > > > Thanks again for your time and effort. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Dear Smt Neelamji,            Pranams. You have given a detailed analysis. Yes the chart is interesting. But the freshers will come to wrong conclusions unless one has adequate experience. Your post has given the relief.  You have given detailed reasoning why you have spotted the graha Saturn as the marriage giver.. There is a lot to learn. Incidentally, the rasi lagna falls in 5* 32 in sagittarius. Naturally I had Taurus as Navamsa Lagna. I have checked the birth time. It's OK. The placement of planets in Navamsa has somewhat elevated the quality of the chart I suppose. The chart is a male chart and the native is slightly belligerent. But he has so far waited for the elders to arrange the marriage. But the sad point is the local astrologers are over scarred with too many vakra planets in the male chart and obviously the girl's side withdraw from the scene. As you said the Sun Mahadasa seems to be not very conducive to marriage. Instead, during Sun MD/ KetuAD, the native had lost his father at the age of 72years. I pray that your words should come true that In Moon MD he should get the marriage. The parents of the native come from respectable family and they are very passive in nature. Presently the native is working in US on some project from the parent company in Bangalore. With best regards S.R.Balasubramaniam --- On Tue, 25/8/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Re: Re: Denial of Marriage? Tuesday, 25 August, 2009, 10:10 PM Dear Balasubramaniam ji, Another interesting chart from you! The planetary position appears curious, with retrogrades and clustering, but on careful scrutiny, I think it is not bad for marriage. Some important points worth considering could be (presuming lagna degrees to be correct): There is no denial of marriage, though 7H in both D-1 and D-9 are devoid of benefic influence, the lords are protected. 2/4/7/8/12 houses are relatively free from affliction. And these lords well placed. Saturn is the main marriage giver in the chart, along with 7L mercury. Saturn is 2L of addition to family, 3L as efforts and dispositor of 7L, aspecting 7H from a friendly 10H. It is the 7L from moon in 2H, aspects 4/8/11 from moon. It is in 7H from Venus. In the navamsha Saturn is 11L of fulfillment of desires, aspecting 7/12 houses. Saturn is also the DK. Saturn will only cause delay as it can give slow results and being retrograde, it becomes somewhat unpredictable. It is at a good distance from venus and venus in its sign of exaltation in 12H of navamsha will give its results of marital bliss. I think the delay period is almost over with Sun’s mahadasha. Moon is likely to be good for mangalya. Moon is conjoined 5/9 lords and Rahu. Marriage will take place soon, as double transit will activate his 7H next year along with a favourable dasha. I do not see any unusual problem in marital life, except too much mental focus on relationship creating worries. It could be an inter-religious, love marriage through his own efforts. The planets in 3/9 axis might indicate the problems with parent’s marriage or some change in religion or following of some cult by the parents. He himself could be insecure about something from the family and might also be having some phobia, with Rahu-moon in exact conjunction. Often malefics in 9H with a retrograde Jupiter can mean problems and challenges with traditions, teachers, father and father-like figures. Hope to have your feedback on this. Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Dear Smt Neelamji,            Pranams. I have omitted one doubt in previous mail. The nodal axis is 3/9 in this chart. Instead if it happens to be 4/10 squaring the lagna and the 7th house whether it would make any difference. Kindly guide me. with regards S.R.Balasubramaniam --- On Tue, 25/8/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Re: Re: Denial of Marriage? Tuesday, 25 August, 2009, 10:10 PM Dear Balasubramaniam ji, Another interesting chart from you! The planetary position appears curious, with retrogrades and clustering, but on careful scrutiny, I think it is not bad for marriage. Some important points worth considering could be (presuming lagna degrees to be correct): There is no denial of marriage, though 7H in both D-1 and D-9 are devoid of benefic influence, the lords are protected. 2/4/7/8/12 houses are relatively free from affliction. And these lords well placed. Saturn is the main marriage giver in the chart, along with 7L mercury. Saturn is 2L of addition to family, 3L as efforts and dispositor of 7L, aspecting 7H from a friendly 10H. It is the 7L from moon in 2H, aspects 4/8/11 from moon. It is in 7H from Venus. In the navamsha Saturn is 11L of fulfillment of desires, aspecting 7/12 houses. Saturn is also the DK. Saturn will only cause delay as it can give slow results and being retrograde, it becomes somewhat unpredictable. It is at a good distance from venus and venus in its sign of exaltation in 12H of navamsha will give its results of marital bliss. I think the delay period is almost over with Sun’s mahadasha. Moon is likely to be good for mangalya. Moon is conjoined 5/9 lords and Rahu. Marriage will take place soon, as double transit will activate his 7H next year along with a favourable dasha. I do not see any unusual problem in marital life, except too much mental focus on relationship creating worries. It could be an inter-religious, love marriage through his own efforts. The planets in 3/9 axis might indicate the problems with parent’s marriage or some change in religion or following of some cult by the parents. He himself could be insecure about something from the family and might also be having some phobia, with Rahu-moon in exact conjunction. Often malefics in 9H with a retrograde Jupiter can mean problems and challenges with traditions, teachers, father and father-like figures. Hope to have your feedback on this. Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Dear Balasubramaniam, In my opinion, retrograde planets could cause some delays but they may not deny. The new chart given by you also has many features indicating the delay: - 7L Mercury and Jupiter are retrograde - Venus is in gandantha - 7L in Navamsha, Mars s debiltated - D9 lagna is in RKA I feel that the native would get married during Moon-Moon-Rahu or Moon-Rahu. Please note that both these planets are exalted in navamsha and occpy navamsha lagna. Regards, Krishna ________________________________ Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 Tuesday, 25 August, 2009 3:57:44 PM Re: Re: Denial of Marriage? Dear Shri Gopiji, Pranams. You have given another different angle for the denial of marriage in the case of this native. Madam Smt Neelamji had given exhaustive reasoning for such a situation. Shri Krishnaji and Shri CSRji and others had also seen the deficiency.Regardin g the denial of marriage, I have a hunch if the retrograde planets are contributing their might to such an impasse. In practice we see the retro planets posited in the Kutumba Sathan, Kalathrastan, the 7th lord becomes retrograde, Kalathrakaraka becomes retrograde, the impact will be more.( It is my humble opinion as a beginner in the science). Please see the following chart: DOB: 1/3/1980: POB: Long: 77* N44 and Lat : 11*E 21 TOB: 2.00 AM. The native is of Dhanur Lagna. Sun, MeR and Ketu are in Aquarius. Moon, JuR, MaR and Rahu are in Leo. Venus is in Pisces in Revathy pada4. SaR is in Virgo. In Navamsa, Sun and Venus are in Pisces. Moon and Rahu and the Ascendant are in Taurus. MeR is in Gemini. MaR and JuR are in Cancer. SaR is in Capricorn. Ketu is in Scorpio. Primarily, the birth is on an Lunar Eclipse day. The 7th lord Mercury is retro and combust.Mars( retro) and Jupiter Retro aspects the 7th lord. 9th lord Sun is joined by Ketu. Venus is vargothama in exaltation. But is in Mercury's star Revathy 4th Pada. Venus is being aspected by Retro Saturn and Retro Mars. In Navamsa also Venus is aspected by Retro Saturn. In Navamsa Lagna Rishaba ,Rahu joined Moon. Mercury Retro is in 2nd house. The running Mahadasa is SunMD/Venus AD till 25/2/2010. The native is interested in marriage but it is yet to happen. The planets in Navamsa are curiously placed. But will it confer the marriage to this native? It is a moot point even if the marriage takes place, will it last? The learned may give their opinion. with regards, S.R.Balasubramaniam --- On Mon, 24/8/09, gopi_b927 <gopi_b927 > wrote: gopi_b927 <gopi_b927 > Re: Denial of Marriage? Monday, 24 August, 2009, 9:12 PM Dear Balasubramaniam ji, a few more observations on this chart. Lagna is virgo(bachelor) rising in the nakshatra of 12th lord. & the 7th lord ofcourse is aflicted by 11th in the nakshatra of 11th lord as well,debilitated and in PKY. Vargottama Mars as 8th lord aswellas U/L/L in a fixed sign is aflicted by saturn from another fixed sign.Mars is aflicting Darakarak navamsa as well. 12th lord of Rasi sun in lagna in mutual aspect with saturn in 7th in D9. DK in 12th with varg Mars and ketu in D9. Both AK AND DK though in mutual asp are aflicted. upapada in a fixed sign with many influences and 2nd from U/P/L with Rahu. I think the above are all not conducive to marriage. Love and regards, gopi. n , Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 > wrote: > > Dear ShriKrishnaji, > Pranams. Here is a chart of the native who is 36 years old who has not been married. Any amount of persuasion has not yielded result and he stoutly refused to marry. > DOB: 22/5/1973 : TOB: 2.30PM : POB : SALEM Long 78E10 : Lat 11* N 39. > > The lagna is Virgo. 7th Lord Jup is debilitated in 5th along with Moon. Mars 3rd and 8th lord is in 6th. Sun, Sat, Merc , Venus are in 9th. LL is combust. All the 4 planets receives aspect of Mars. Deibilitated Jupiter also aspects the 9th house. Kalatrakaraka Venus is conjunct with 6th lord Sat and 12 th Lord Sun and is being aspected by 8th lord Mars. Except Lagna all the planets are between Ketu and Rahu. > Is this case also a case of denial of marriage? > BTW, the native is a PhD in Therotical Computer and working in Chennai Math.. Institute.He is pursuing his post doctoral research. > > with regards > S.R.Balasubramaniam > > --- On Mon, 10/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998@ ... wrote: > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998@ ... > Re: Denial of Marriage? > > Monday, 10 August, 2009, 7:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > > > Thanks for sharing this chart. > > > > On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport here w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L Mars in Navamsha. > > > > Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And Moon is in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn has a good grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer and Libra. > > > > There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. > > > > Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of charts. Some more such charts could shed more light. > > > > Thanks again for sharing. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com> > > > > Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM > > Re: Marriage - Neelam ji > > > > > > Dear Krishna, > > > > This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. > > > > Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but likes Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. Father died and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary retirement. See the Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an interesting twist here.) > > > > Male > > 1710 hours > > 2nd August 1954 > > 78E41; 10N49 > > Zone 5:30 > > DST:0 > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > You wrote: > > > > My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and evaluate if > > they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not the most > > critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over it. It could > > only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to identify > > clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So far, all > > diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show the > > combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying to gather > > such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial marriage > > is one of them. > > > > I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical combination. > > > > Thanks again for your time and effort. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. 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